David Moyes’ Manchester United: A Generational Disaster

[@lateraft1123]

Jamie carrager said Alex Ferguson biggest mistake was underestimating how good he was

[@dj71162]

Moyes is not a bad manager, it's just that the job was too big for him and Ferguson left him with an ageing and generally average team. While other teams like Man City were building for the future, United were slow to bring through the next generation of players.

[@nakiyame2606]

other teams building for the future while united is left with ED FOKKIN WOOD as the man who decides the transfers

[@riichobamin7612]

Average team ? Bro, they were certainly aging but you cannot call the league winners "average" 😂😂😂

[@Ore.31-r2b]

@@riichobamin7612 u sure abt dat? sir ale literally won the league with smalling, phil jones and fucking johnny evans bro at the back and van persie was already aging after they won the league

[@riichobamin7612]

@@Ore.31-r2b dude. It is VERY simple, if a team wins the League, that too a competitive league like the Premier League, then no way in Hell is that team "average". Winning the League by definition bestows the title of the "best team in the country" on you. That is literally NOT AVERAGE.

[@riichobamin7612]

@@Ore.31-r2b also you are calling the team "average" by just mentioning the players you think are average, while COMPLETELY ignoring the fact that that team ACTUALLY won the League.

[@Myusernamecanbeseenhere]

the thing people keep missing about united in 2013-14 is that the decline started much earlier like people forget that in 2012 man u got 3rd and out of the group stage of the champions league, in a group with benfica, basel and some unkown romanian club before getting schooled home and away by athletic bilbao in the europa league, as welk as losing to mancini's city 6-1 in old trafford the signs were shown much earlier, but sir alex kept winning trophies with a squad of johnny evans, phil jones, danny welbeck and some old washed legends, so no one batted an eye, but turned out, it was because of sir alex's genius that the team kept that team going and winning the premier league, and the years after proved that

[@LieutenantKondou]

Exactly that Squad was on his last legs and Moyes was set up to fail.

[@TheEviLMoth]

Don't forget ando-cleverley duo 😂. No proper rebuild ever since they sold cristiano. Greedy glazers

[@pinealdreams3005]

Anyone who doubts Fergie's genius just needs to look at the 2012-2013 squad and how well he got them playing in the league.

[@PrehistoricPro]

That 2012/13 squad is the worst to ever win the PL, imo. They were awful, but they had Fergie's winning mentality, so they scraped through when other, better, teams lost their way.

[@PretendMe]

@@LieutenantKondou Ferguson himself chose Moyes so please don't talk rubbish

[@HHHBFResurrected]

It's probably hard for younger fans to understand just how good Moyes' reputation was at the time (as it pretty much torpedoed after United). The job he did at Everton is quite possibly the greatest piece of long term managerial work in PL history! This was a time where the top 4 of United, Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool was totally locked down, with City later gate crashing. He got a team that was stranded in the lower/bottom half for a decade & brought them to a place where a quality striker would've seen them seriously threaten that monopoly & he did it operating with virtually no resources. Every older fan of these top 4 clubs will remember how seriously the fixture away to Everton was taken. A win was a sigh of relief & taken as a notch on the belt.

[@Endrick-real]

Emry is modern day Moyes then

[@itscalledfootballyt]

@@Endrick-real That's the best modern day comparison, but imagine if Emery is still doing this in 8 or 9 years time and then succeeds Pep at City

[@Endrick-real]

@@itscalledfootballyt pep won't be at City for that long but I do see what you mean , he'd have big shoes to fill

[@itscalledfootballyt]

@ Yeah I don’t think Pep will be either but with Klopp gone now it’s the only Prem job that’s even remotely comparable to Ferguson’s

[@pinealdreams3005]

Moyes' Everton team is definitely forgotten by younger fans. United fan here, and we absolutely hated Everton away every season. Constantly between 7th and 5th and 4th one season. With a packet of crisps and two loose shoelaces for a transfer budget. And Moyes' Everton Vs Allardyce's Bolton was great.

[@ssgulquiorra1048]

MAN it’s been a minute since you’ve done a retrospective video like this, I always thought they were some of the best vids on your channel. Please make more of them!!

[@ashrafibraheem2277]

Yeahhh

[@athishmartins694]

I agree

[@anubixus]

I remember reading somewhere that Sir Alex desperately wanted Pep even when he was a player!

[@harukrentz435]

He wanted Xavi so bad almost got him in 2001 when spanish people still had no idea how to use him.

[@anthonyguiness9]

Ed Woodward was undoubtedly the one that killed United post Ferguson. Ruined the sponsorships, despite the myth, sponsorships grew much slower under him and were were overtaken in revenue. Had absolutely no skill in buying players. Set us so far back!

[@KP_Casablanka]

I was once talk about this Ed problem you addressed after moys getting sacked, then all my friends UTD supporters came at me shouting "You didn't know about football", "This is Champions way of doing things, not undering club like yours". Now the same friends group who's was UTD supporters half of them now CITY supporters, other half still shouting right back "Our club still richer than yours". They let money become first before football. That's why some of them even can switch to cheer rival team so easily because CITY still didn't get backlash from using money over football.

[@thatRyzzle]

That shot of Mourinho shaking the hands of the three guys sitting around him always cracks me up.

[@malhaar2271]

This man almost died inside making this video. Like and subscribe you guys the man puts blood into his videos

[@nabsteve]

😂😂😂

[@malhaar2271]

​@@nabsteve Jokes apart gang I took a 9 year hiatus from football after Messi lost 2014 WC. This man caught me up on everything so well

[@randyschwaggins]

Fwend!!!

[@WiHuThRi]

Even when doing historical videos, he's invoking his own depression...

[@saadhasan2518]

The only positive thing from Moyes season was how United managed to get into UCL quarter finals, top of their group with 12 points, a 2nd leg comeback against Olympiacos via a Van Persie Hattrick and could have gone into possible semi final, and that's pretty much it

[@mattkhanna]

Charity shield

[@TVChannel350]

David Moyes: I want these players for my squad Ed Woodward, not a proper CEO: no And then everything went downhill

[@PretendMe]

The players that Moyes DID want were players like Marouane Fellaini so it wouldn't have made a difference if he had gotten every single player that he wanted. They were players probably good enough for Everton and fine if the aim was to avoid relegation or try and reach midtable

[@colloquialsoliloquy6391]

.........De Gea Rafael Evans Varane Baines Carrick Modric Gibson .........Fabregas Van Persie Rooney , should have been Moyes' first XI.

[@oluwatobioyedele5987]

​@@PretendMe stop saying what you don't know, he wanted fabregas, who later went to Chelsea, he wanted bale, Alcantara, am not sure if modric was his target or Alex but we only got fellaini because of the incompetence of the new ceo or so

[@abdulraheem468]

Wanted kroos as well

[@oluwatobioyedele5987]

@@abdulraheem468 that's true

[@osyemi]

Quality delivered again. This guy doesn’t miss. I still remember no one being excited about the Moyes hire

[@westington1]

Getting rid of all the coaches was a stupid first move…….replacing a world class team of coaches (who took care of training and a large part of the tactical work), and replacing them with his own team of coaches who had didn’t have the experience working with players like that, and weren’t proven winners. Then he dithered in the transfer market massively, not giving the go ahead on players that had already been lined up for him, as well as being indecisive on his own targets to the point he lost them to other clubs. He set himself up badly before the season even started. I also think his mentality was suited to being the underdog, and instead of trying to make the transition to having a mentality suited for United, you could almost see him week by week shifting United from a winning mentality to an underdog one - psychologically it was like he just couldn’t see himself as a winning manager of a dominant team, and just reverted back to scrappy underdog. There were loads of other issues that had started to seap through the cracks during the end of Sir Alex’s reign, with the club being handled appalling on the football front, with people in positions (Woodward being the biggest villain here), that they had no experience in, and arrogantly making misstep after misstep - thinking that their success as businessmen would somehow transfer into the football side of things. Utterly clueless. So Moyes didn’t come into a healthy club, but he made it so much worse for himself with key decisions he made; I think even if he’d been the right manager, kept the staff on and made good signings it may have been quite different, but the rot would have eventually shown anyway

[@MrGts92]

Coaches left, they weren't got "rid off" nor were they "world class". Rene left because he wanted to be No1, Phelan left because Rene got offered an assistant role first. The rest were ageing or behind the times. Why do people still not know?

[@westington1]

@ A coaching team that had gotten to three champions league finals, won the league all those times and coached world class players, wasn’t a world class coaching team? Who tf is then? Moyes did get rid of the coaching staff, that’s not an opinion, it’s a well documented thing. Fergie talked about it, saying it was a mistake that he’d advised Moyes not to make. Several of the coaching staff that were let go talked about it in the press. Muelensteen left because of what Moyes was doing. He said this himself, that he left because he saw Moyes getting rid of the staff, knew it would be a disaster, and that his own position would be changed, so he left. I’m sure those articles, with those quotes are readily available via a Google search. What the fuck are you on about? Such a weird position to take over something that is really very well documented 🤷‍♂️.

[@therockbat]

Thing is, a head coach does need his own men. For example, Mourinho brought Rui Faria everywhere he went to. Pochettino had Miguel D'Agostino. Ancelotti had Pintus and his son Davide. Not necessary nepotism, but because those men were in the know of the head coach's demand. A huge part of everyday coaching and training is measuring and balancing the physical load - not only for the week, but for extended periods such as the next 1-2 month(s) or the entire season. A head coach cannot really realise his game model and "train" it onto his players without a man familiar with it and dedicated to helping him designing dedicated sessions and balancing physical-tactical demand. Moyes was infamous for gruelling pre-season physical work, training endurance so much that his players literally couldn't breathe. He demanded a lot of hard running and tactical discipline, therefore his training physical load would be vastly different from Sir Alex's team. No Rene Meulensteen or Mike Phelan could deliver exactly what Moyes would want.

[@mayeezy254]

Managers come with their coaches genius its not uncommon

[@westington1]

@@mayeezy254With Moyes it was different though. He hadn’t been a winning manager at a top club before, and was advised by Fergie and the senior staff to keep the coaches on, as it will allow him to learn from them, and make his transition easier. Getting rid of a coaching team that has had all that success to bring in Everton’s coaching team was stupid. Everyone said it as the time, and the players, Fergie and pundits said it was one of his biggest mistakes after too. ……you would have expected him to bring in a couple of his own guys, but not replace the entire team with coaches that had no experience at that level, and hadn’t worked with players of that ability. I don’t know why this is even a point of debate for anyone. It was obviously a stupid thing to do, was talked about at the time, and was talked about when he failed. He tried to change too much too quickly, and it backfired. You had Rio Ferdinand being told to watch videos of how Phil Jagielka play Moyes by staff ffs. These coaches ran a lot of the football side - the sessions, training movements and working on implementing tactics (Fergie was very hands off with his coaching team), and they would have helped him into the job. Stupid thing to do, and clearly rubbed the players up the wrong way. He lost the dressing room before he even started, and had respected coaches - that had worked with this bunch of players for a long time - by coaches who hadn’t won anything and weren’t respected by the players.

[@spek888]

Let’s also not forget David Moyes bought in John murtough from Everton who was crap aswell

[@Harun-hr4em]

Watching Man U fans hype up their next manager almost every 2 years feels like were stuck in a loop. We all know whats gonna happen but they still somehow get suprised

[@natalkumar6132]

Except for Ten Haag, all others were and are good. Moyes did a lot, Van Gaal was quite good and treated unfairly, Mourinho was right, Solksjaer fought, Rangnick had no choice, but Ten Haag was a special brand of trash. Amorim is miles better.

[@Irfan87]

@@natalkumar6132 EtH had to deal with a ton of shit, its amazing how people dont see beyond it.

[@chopstickcheppo1511]

@@natalkumar6132delusional take

[@jekanyika]

@@natalkumar6132 I wish I had your optimism

[@nadeemlakhi9206]

​@natalkumar6132 how trash was he really when he brought us 2 trophies?

[@ArthurMathebula-cb2dp]

Man uniteds downfall was rooted down to the owners failing to capitalize on the success we had and failing to replace key player's in the early to late 2000s Cristiano ronaldo was sold for £80 million to madrid and was replaced by antonio valencia great player on his day but never on the level of Cristiano not to mention the aging and crippling defense vidic and Ferdinand were slowly getting passed their prime and no investment was plugged by the glazers.

[@andrewomahony9260]

THIS.

[@kwanlinus6999]

In Liverpool recently, there has been this saying. There are two managers, Arne Slot and David Moyes. Both were slated to replace a longstanding and well-respected, almost cult-like manager. Both had the full support and blessing of said managers. Both were given next to no transfer budget by the upper management. As a result, both were essentially forced to use whatever players the previous managers the previous manager left them with. But one succeeded while the other failed. Here is the difference. In the 12/13 season, Man Utd had a rapidly aging squad, while their best players had an average age over 32. Ryan Giggs was 39 (ffs), Paul Scholes was 38 and was pulled out of retirement to play one last season, Rio Ferdinand was 34. Berbatov and Evra was 32. Carrick and Vidic was 31. These players were all past their prime, fast approaching retirement age if not already deeply in it. The fact that SAF decide to pull Scholes out of retirement for the 12/13 instead of investing into a new midfielder for the future says everything about SAF in the final few years: Looking for short-term band aids as oppose to planning for the future. His team was literally on it's last legs in 12/13. I doubt SAF would've won the 13/14 season with himself in charge anyways. With any other manager in charge, it would've been disastrous. Moyes was the fall guy. Meanwhile, Jurgen Klopp completed a full rebuild of the squad in the 2023 summer window after a historically bad Liverpool season. Aging mainstays such as Firmino and Jordan Henderson (Captain btw), as well as Mane the season before, while still technically capable and competent, were all in their early to mid-30s and rapidly past their prime. For once, FSG didn't withhold our transfer budget and we completely rebuilt. Wataru Endo, Ryan Gravenberch, Domink Szoboszlai and Alexis MacAllister. While Slot weren't able to bring in anyone but Chiesa, Klopp's rebuild sort of negated it, and thus Liverpool didn't have a post-Klopp dip with Slot like Man Utd had with Moyes. Klopp is a responsible manager, SAF isn't.

[@muhammadsuhairi7510]

i've read that SAF did not have any money as the Glazers were glazing themselves in the US

[@kwanlinus6999]

@muhammadsuhairi7510 the same can be said about FSG, the Red Sox will always be their main project

[@olm8829]

As a Liverpool fan, I think it’s too early to say that Slot succeeded. The beginning was great indeed, better than I expected, and it looks very promising, but it’s just far too early to call it a success.

[@Dwightpower42]

A few key things you are glossing over here. Firstly klopp was only there for a fraction of the time Fergie was at United, so he was no where near as engrained into the club. Secondly, Fergie won the league comfortably in his last season, he had no reason to believe the squad was in as desperate a need of a revamp. Players he was getting a tune from dropped their performance levels massively after he left. Thirdly, klopps role as manager at Liverpool only had a fraction of the responsibilities Fergie had. Fergie didn’t just manage the team, he was in control of transfers, youth academy etc, he almost had chairman level control over the club, so when he left his absence was felt from the top to the bottom of the club. There was 3/4 jobs to replace not just one. Klopp didn’t really have much control of the club outside of picking the team and running training sessions, he didnt even pick his own transfers. (Salah most famously was a player he didn’t even want, if the transfers were up to him Liverpool would have missed out on their best player of the last 6 years) The structure at Liverpool makes the manager just as interchangeable as a player. They pick a specific style of manager who can fit right in with the existing squad and style of play etc. United have had zero structure in this way under the glazers. They got lucky when they took over in the sense they could sit back and let Fergie carry on with what he was doing, they never had to worry about employing directors of football, expanding the scouting system, training facilities etc. They had no plan in place for when he’d eventually step down, and because they know nothing about football they’ve been clueless on how to fix the structure ever since, hence why they’ve still never recovered. It’s 100% on the glazers, not down to Fergie being “irresponsible”. Klopp didn’t have a fraction of the responsibilities at Liverpool, hence why they’ve barely noticed a difference since he left.

[@lordpelagius5078]

@@muhammadsuhairi7510 man utd were the biggest net spenders every year under glazers in the 2010s in the league

[@mojebi3804]

"I'll accept no Fellaini slander" is not something you hear very often

[@Irfan87]

Moyes was brought in and told to just run it, everything was in place. Instead he fucking gutted the backroom staff. United was always too big for him and he was never gonna succeed.

[@JavaughnEllis]

Fergy said it to u lot get behind the new manager u expected him to win with an aging team that wasn't his You've changed so many managers and the best ones in my eyes were moyes and Jose

[@chriscolton6329]

It was Souness, at Anfield, all over again, whe he succeeded Dalglish as manager of the current league champions, and was advised to just settle in and tweak the squad and club, accordingly. Instead, he embarked on a tour de force of managerial incompetence, beginning with the purge of the entire, existing backroom staff, already there. Totally mishandling the press, and managing to upset senior members of the dressing room, due to poor man management. Telling Rio and Vidic to study footage of Phil Jagielka, to help them improve as defenders, was mind blowing. At times, it was parody stuff.

[@MrGts92]

😂😂😂😂 Rene threw his toys out and left because he wasn't chosen as No1, Phelan's ego got hurt because Rene was offered no2. GK coach was ageing, fitness coaches and scouting had to be replaced as they were laughable compared to average clubs in Europe. So pray tell what the manager was supposed to do?

[@Doctor_Kroom]

He was left with a squad mixture full of ageing legends and a bunch of average players. It was sir alex that kept that team winning. No other manager was going to win with that squad.

[@Irfan87]

@@JavaughnEllis Moyes? Hahahahahaha.

[@nigelarcani]

Finally someone confirms Moyes was never Fergusons 1st choice

[@SpongeBobSquarePants89]

He is 7 I think Pep Klopp Jose Van Gaal Ancelloti Wenger Then Moyes

[@raosiddharth4726]

I don't have to watch tragedy videos again, this is like watching wife's funeral and your wife is still alive.

[@joost0133]

It has been a joy to once again join your MU therapy session. I see you've been improving.

[@Skottization]

Love your videos. The quality is off the charts.

[@DuncanCox]

You make it sound like United were all conquering heroes the year before Moyes. The fact was, all the teams around United were having a shocker. United weren't amazing... they dropped loads of points too. Fergie was smart and left on a high because he knew he wasn't going to be getting such an easy run to the title again. United's decline had been evident for years. He left and it all went down the pan. Imagine if he'd stayed. His legacy would have been in the mud!! I think Moyes was served up a bum deal...poor chap!

[@DaveSeville-sf1ku]

City flopped true because of Balotelli😢. But Utd were excellent until Christmas because of the RVP move

[@terencehuang3810]

And now when u see how ETH stayed so long in the job despite clearly being out of his depth, one would agree that Moyes should have been given at least 1 more season.

[@assemcrghannam5920]

Great video overall .. so not boring with some humor and straight facts .. Subscribed man

[@sibusisomahlangu398]

And what makes it worse is united kept buying offensive players and hiring defensive managers pogba for the special one ???

[@fsaeuqwe]

tbh moyes was not the worse we have. he didn’t spend too much, he didn’t sell anyone that we should keep.

[@rwalker0130]

didn't have enough time to do more damage

[@osamazahid4768]

To be honest, Ten Hag era was far worse, even Moyes didn’t manage a 7-0

[@dharshanlakha8788]

Obviously, moyes had of the best goalies in the world

[@Ore.31-r2b]

@@dharshanlakha8788 Didnt ten hag have too?

[@LABRADFORD10]

Ten hag at least got European football and won two trophies. That was one game. It was a horrible game, but it was one game.

[@kamogelomano707]

Moyes would have caught 7 from Klopps Liverpool. I don't think you actually witnessed Moyes football and that's fine, just don't make baseless claims like this

[@osamazahid4768]

@ I did actually, week in week out, remember it quite well and it was bad no doubt about it but not as bad as it was under ten haag

[@aurumcaelo]

Genuinely never knew the difference between manager and coach and assumed it was basically the same thing thanks mate

[@adammac4960]

Moyes isn’t a bad manager. If your a team with scarce resources and don’t have the spending power of the top 6 clubs but still want to make top ten maybe sneak into the top 7 a couple times and win a kick kat trophy. Moyes is your man. What he did at Everton and West Ham deserves praise even tho his football is terrible he did the job they needed and look at the state of the clubs since his departure. United have had two champions league winners, ex legends and a potential at the helm, have spent Millions and still have got know where since ferguson left. Was probs the wrong job. He should have stayed at Everton.

[@dscwac396]

He played solid mid-table survival football, Hastings were good enough to get results but not necessarily good enough to be flashy or play with a particular style

[@juventisa23]

“David Moyes is a football genius.” - Chris Pajak , Redmen TV after 0-3 win

[@klmgaragegainer4196]

9 whole days and I've been having withdrawals😢. Lawl great video as always.

[@jamessaltlife]

Imagine if Moyes was manager all this time. I’m sure United would be much better off - and he’d have 10 years under his belt!!

[@FarshidAyaz-u4v]

16:32 . Kroos's career was saved.

[@DayoKolawole98]

That Inception bit was truly excellent writing😂👏🏽👏🏽

[@afonsodinis6346]

This video serves as a great comparison to have in mind while you watch Ruben Amorim at United. As a Sporting fan and also a ManU fan, please keep the things that failed with Moyes in your mind and compare them to what Amorim is saying and doing at the moment while he manages ManU. I think you are in for a fun time.

[@rwalker0130]

I agree. I think we will see that Amorim also has a WAY better support system in place now with Ineos than Moyes had with the Glazers. I also think Amorim will not create media shitstorms like Moyes, Mourinho but especially Ten Hag so that's one less thing to worry about. I am super excited for Sunday!

[@GIBBO4182]

Crazy how little they backed him in that first transfer window

[@deadsoulrob]

Moyes is the greatest manager in history with zero trophies to his name, he has a solid case for being the greatest man in the history of the earth. Also Ruben has to go.

[@theblahofblah1681]

He has the Europa Conference with West Ham

[@mysteriousM8]

I know this hurt you to make but I appreciate your willingness to be accurate to football history

[@thatotherguy4528]

Lmao “I find it hard that that’s the way the balls came out of the bag” 😂

[@louisjwiese5515]

Was a declining Manchester United squad. They required some rebuilding. And I think people forget how ingrained Ferguson was in that club. Would be difficult even for the best, to replace him.

[@danimaster6647]

Yes it was really bad and Moyes made also mistakes when it came to tactics and player selection. It was criminal how he didn't make space for Shinji Kagawa who could have brought so much creativity to the squad. But he was left out for pacey wingers to cross the ball into the box over and over again.

[@conquistafootball]

I don't think Moyes failed. I think he wasn't given enough time, United jumped the gun and the next few years might not have been great but they would have been steady. The turbulence that has followed since I think was a lot to do with that decision.

[@PhilliesNostalgia]

To the 5 points, I would add a 6th. Failure for the previous regime to rebuild the squad and bring in a new core. You look at the windows before Sir Alex left, and they are really poor. No big turnover to carry them well into the future. It goes somewhat with Point 3, but that’s when Moyes was manager. My Point 6 would be what happened under Fergie in the 5-7 years before he left

[@hopelessaquarian]

Thanks to the Glazers

[@hugolouessard3914]

It would be great to have a series of video about post Ferguson Manchester United, this one and then other videos until the ten Hag failure. I would be very interested to see that !! About Moyes, to be fair, he inherited a United squad that was old and washed. All the leaders were at the end of their top tier years, and the younger players meant to replace them were not top4 PL players. Vidic was 32, Ferdinand 35, Evra 32, Giggs 39, Carrick 32, Rooney 28 (but he peaked very young) and Van Persie 30. And although Smalling, Phil Jones, Rafael, Johnny Evans, Valencia, Fellaini, Mata, Kagawa, Zaha or Welbeck were good players, they weren't near the level of the players United had a few years later. Really, only Chicharito, Rooney, Kagawa, De Gea and Mata were young and very good players. And only Fellaini and Varela arrived in the summer. Varela didn't play and Fellaini was good but not Man United level. Finishing 7th was not that crazy with the information we have now. Certainly Moyes could have done better, and I agree he wasn't good enough for an elite job, but noone would have won the title that year, or even competed for it. 2012-2013 was some desperate final rush for that team, to wash the Man City title and give Ferguson the perfect farewell, but many took it back then as a sign that the squad was all good. And yeah Van Persie 30, Vidic, Evra and Carrick 32, were not that old and might have had a few more top tier years, but after so much success they were at the end of a cycle, and that's not surprising. Even Rooney, who was only 28 never reached 30 goal contributions after 2011-2012 and left at age 32 after a poor 5 goals season in the PL. He was already past his best in 2013. It's true that the best coaches were unavailable in 2013, or at least it seems like it, because some might have been persuaded to come if United insisted I think. And Moyes looked really good, so you can't really argue against that choice at the moment it was announced. But when we see what the following United managers did with much better squads and more time, his tenure isn't catastrophic at all, he has one of the worst United squads of the XXIst century.

[@OurFootball365-x6e]

Moyes is more suitable for middle club than big club, he is not bad

[@hnjahnjah]

I think the problem with United is the Legacy of Sir Alex. There is just immense expectation put upon the manager to miraculously get it all "back on track" almost immediately and keep it going like "in the old days" with Sir Alex. The demand for results NOW is quite crushing for anyone. I do hope Amorim turns it around, but I can say this much already... Drawing 1-1 to Ipswich Town of all opponents sure as heck didn't give a big vote of confidence to him. If you recall, Ten Hag was a killer in the Eredivisie and kicked ass with Ajax. I hope Amorim turns it around and doesn't prove to be just another "Ten Hag" (I. E. Top manager from a "lower rank" league not being able to adapt to the Prem). On top of all this, the squad was aging and Man U didn't adapt as quickly and look to the future like Man City did. Sure, the academy is amazing but as Cristiano Ronaldo himself said, nothing was invested in the facilities in decades and it's in shambles basically.

[@shanet5604]

United have never had a good record at Ipswich,that’s why I predicted a 1-1…

[@adamgrimsley2900]

In many ways Moyes is to blame for everything

[@devanman7920]

Impossible job. The rot had well set in when Moyes took over. Sir Alex's brilliance got them by for awhile.

[@TK_Brainslug]

great video as usual

[@Goombasareawesome]

They should have done everything possible to get Pep.

[@luchosito-d9i]

Maybe sir Alex was teaching the glazers a lesson? Showing them how great a job he was doing and that they should have let him do what he wanted.

[@JKribbit]

Unpopular opinion: Sir Alex destroyed Man United, he left the club with no foundation, aging squad, shitty owners that relied on him and shitty infastructure. His tenure was a house of cards ready to collapse, Moyes is just an easy scapegoat.

[@pinealdreams3005]

Unpopular opinion because it's utter nonense. Fergie was furious he sold Ronaldo and got Obertan in return. He didn't choose the Glazers, and he never spoke fondly of them. He kept that team competitive, and he did build for the future. de Gea, Young, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Rafael, Evans and Kagawa was a decent spine for the future, but mismanagement and bad luck with injuries ruined that. Should never have sold Evans. Could have saved £200 million on defenders by keeping him. Rafael was a quality right back, sold for stupid reasons. Kagawa was misused, Valencia broke his leg. Only Rio, Vidic, Evra, Giggs, Scholes and Carrick were at their end when he left. He had replacements in mind, and bought them.

[@Account.for.Comment]

Fergie recommended Moyes, who never managed established superstars, who led a very great underdog team, not a top dog. I don't think Fergie make a mistake, he knew what exactly would happen.

[@Adam65510]

⁠@@Account.for.Commenthe recommended moyes because at that time moyes was on fire and looked like a up and coming manager. Also the main reason he retired was to spend time with his aging wife who was also grieving the death of her sister.

[@Account.for.Comment]

@@Adam65510 Moyes managed Everton for 11 years. Fergie was always ruthless and he must have knew Moyes strength. In Everton, Moyes never won a trophy, has a terrible record against the Big Four, rarely if ever signed and handle a superstar. His successes in Everton was similar to Sean Dyche in Burnley. They were legends, but handling an underdog team with financial constraints, is different to handling a globalized superclub in the world with ego-filled superstars in each position. Why would Fabregas and Bale want to join that team?

[@Adam65510]

@@Account.for.Comment i understand that but you have to remember there werent many managers available at that time, as the video said, google why sir alex actually left

[@aenguscunningham138]

Yeah, this video feels too harsh on Dave Moyes. Even going by his own history shown in the video, he needed two seasons to build and put things in place. It was an even bigger ask because the entire transfer team was gone and the squad was VERY old. David Moyes got treated crap and if he was given the same amount of time as Olé or ETH, he would have shown his value.

[@ForzaBantams]

10:00 Think the list of these things fall under 1 umbrella. That’s Moyes managed Manchester United like they were Everton. In interviews he would play down expectation on the team, but this wasn’t the Man U way. They used to be expected to win every game, that was the champions mentality, and Moyes couldn’t grasp that. So he was the wrong fit for the job. A Pep or Jurgen would have come in with a similar mentality to what the club and players already had. Let the other team worry about our style, we don’t worry or adapt our style against other teams.

[@dancallan7907]

There was such a good meme video of the Moyes era. Was called something like Man United THAT season. Taken down and lost forever now its such a shame.

[@PhantomOverlordX2]

Love how people think 'Job was too big for him' no, no it wasn't LOL. Fact is, the team was on the decline, and didn't freshen up right. They weren't prepared for the future like other clubs. It wasn't Moyes fault, it was the clubs, end of.

[@fixhersworld]

Are U gonna do a Van Gaal era as well? That would be awesome.

[@FootballIconic]

Yes

[@AM-sc3tw]

After SAF it should have been Pep Guardiola. Utd would have probably won a couple premier league trophies by now.

[@nms7250]

Well done 👏

[@yovanilla]

@9:00 I am just thinking about how interesting it is to think back on, the concept of a manager picking his successor. Since at least in today's world, most departing managers aren't exactly afforded that opportunity.

[@scottishcelts2040]

Classy touch leaving out that other nonsense 👍👍

[@robbieclark2263]

great video

[@mayeezy254]

Looking back at it Moyes wasn't as bad as they make it seem it was a tough job and it was hard to say no.

[@timothytumusiime2903]

9:59 😑😑 That list basically says he was a failure at literally everything a coach should be in that situation

[@rwalker0130]

81 crosses in one game? thats like 80 more than in Ten Hag's whole 2.5 seasons combined

[@surindersingh724]

Some managers are just not built for the very top. There’s a reason why, for years, the same 6 or 7 managers did the rounds at all the top clubs. Moyes is a good manager but he’s not a Top 6 team manager. 7 downwards and he’s a success.

[@hakikiwicaksana7231]

i miss shinji kagawa 😢😢😢😢

[@ConstantinoHaza]

It was a perfect time and collision of a team run in an outdated way with a manager just reaching obsolescence.

[@MrGts92]

As soon as i saw the icon for this video, i knew there would be misinformation about the staff situation. Rene and Phelan LEFT of their own accord. Rene thought he was getting the Utd job and threw a wobble, and Phelan thought he was better than he was. They weren't sacked. The rest of the staff were sacked and rightly so. This is what happens when people follow the name and not the club. Clueless bunch.

[@topearemu6760]

Point made mate, no need to be cocky😂

[@simeoningashipola7985]

Tinashe you're a legend 💯

[@darylmckay]

Manchester United are a big club, a great club. At its heart though is that much of its success has come in the Busby and Fergusson eras, the rest of the time they won the odd trophy and were seldom dominant. This is Manchester United returning to script until another legend in the making does their alchemy to make all that money, talent and resources come to something.

[@brianoreilly239]

Well please let me know exactly what 'great' or 'big 'club have had continuous success without an exceptional manager at the helm ?

[@kwanlinus6999]

13:54 This is the biggest issue of the English football scene, it's media. It's hyper-sensationism In football, this is known as the "English Effect" In F1, it's known as the "biased British Media" The reason that England hasn't won much in football and people being disappointed is down to the media bigging up and relentlessly inflating egos and expectations before every International Tournament for profits. It fails every single time.

[@cheech7900]

Ferguson retired, because he knew the squad needed rebuilding. Ferguson was United, what happened was the same thing that happened after Matt Busby retired and now, every managers playing misfits, trying to create title winning teams out of everyone else’s players.

[@brianoreilly239]

FFS ! ....get real. Ferguson retired because at 71 he was well past retiring age

[@MrKAKARONALDOMESSI]

How I wish I could go back to 1993

[@afunnyusername5599]

the squad didnt want to play for him, they where underwhelmed by him and he'd ;lost before he arrived. A lot of big personalities with far more illustrious careers than him, only way that would have worked was a full clear out and rebuild - either way he was not that guy.

[@MrKrewie]

whoever they would put would fail because even tho the fans did stand by the manager, the club never did

[@ryankwatemba4071]

Let's be honest, United's past glory was just because of Sir Alex... without him, they're just a over glorified Tottenham

[@Spidersox1989]

Whatever makes you happy, 20 league titles

[@ITR970]

Before Sir Alex united had 7 pl 1 cl 7 fa cup while arsenal had 10 pl 0 cl 5 fa cup whom was supposed to be the 2 best after Liverpool so the only team that was better than united was Liverpool before sir Alex the rest no so stop yapping.

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

Negative ball knowledge. Read about Matt Busby.

[@rwalker0130]

cmon man

[@Bobbiez_editz]

@@Spidersox1989U do realize before sir Alex u had 7 first division titles

[@FLMuk]

Dude the adverts are crazy on this video. Unwatchable

[@xkcyther]

Loved where manu went from then YNWA

[@krusher181]

It would be a lot better if he was actually shit at managing. It’s so unfair how he was treated in the years after he got fired from united.

[@pxz4a22c]

man what a great analysis

[@flickchic238]

Could you do one for every Utd manager since Fergie? 😢

[@zubsiro]

I think it even if Pep left city to manage united and fail, people would just say he was washed instead of saying it's something wrong with the club itself

[@armaddreadchronicles116]

The Glazers played a key role in Manchester United's collapse and no, forget the protests we've seen recently am talking about them allowing Moyes to replace Ferguson, am talking about them not building a new squad for the future given how old the current Squad was. Just look at what Liverpool did with Klopp last season in the transfer market then appointed a proper replacement Slot, the transition was so smooth it makes Klopp leaving look like the best ever thing to happen to them in recent years. If the Glazers actually watched or cared about football they would have known appointing Moyes is a terrible idea and they would have prepared for Ferguson's retirement. Bayern Munich stay at the top because they have football people running the club.

[@HavendaleBlvd80]

He wasnt allowed to ship out or sign a single playet when he arrived, if im not mistaken, right?

[@GreenHarpFinancial]

Hitzfeld ,Lippi , Pelligrini, Mancini , Del Bosque the choices were endless

[@JackEFC1878]

The players did not accept him, Rio Ferdinand still goes on about Moyes showing him clips of Jagielka, ignoring the fact that Jagielka was a much better player at that point

[@BoereViking]

As a Liverpool fan I have to disagree with your title... ❤️🇿🇦

[@Spidersox1989]

No one cares you're from south Africa

[@potatogirlcultist19]

Guardiola managing Manchester United would be cursed. At least with hindsight.

[@SoHalt1312]

Amorim will change the disaster that’s going on in Manchester

[@rafathegafa]

Bookmarked

[@marlouabalona5079]

@@rafathegafa 😆😆😆

[@mastarceef4000]

Hmm is this a jinx video for the new manager at United?

[@josephwheatley5488]

Interesting video - Now do every other post Ferguson manager.

[@jonathanstewart8106]

You asked if I'm ok, I am Then you put yourself and me into PTSD that I had buried Great video haha, but Moyes was bad and this was a hectic time for the club. Vidic, RVP, Evra and Rooney in their Prime there are no excuses

[@JamesChaytor-p4k]

Getting rid of Phelan and Meulensteen so quickly was a terrible decision

[@axelmercedes]

Bro was cooking, I should’ve known 🔥

[@762459]

Moyes' biggest mistake was to take on the job. His second big mistake was to kick out the coaching staff of fergie.