"Bob Cousy is Better than Chris Paul"

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[@slackerofhell]

After CP3 helped take that young OKC team with Shai to the playoffs, that's when I knew he was in my top PGs of all time. That team had no business making it to the playoffs let alone snagging the 5th seed.

[@ianmista619]

Also He almost got em out the first round against the rockets took em to 7 games..... As soon as he left Thunder become a 20 win team lmaooo

[@beastcannon]

I agree completely

[@kingforte9246]

It took you that long?

[@youtubeburr]

@@ianmista619 in all fairness that okc team was broken up after that season. Adams CP and shroader were all traded.

[@slackerofhell]

@@kingforte9246 I don't like placing guys on lists like that until later in their careers when they're winding down. That's just me.

[@quisvaughn2177]

This is the most I've ever heard of Bob Cousy in my 27 years of living

[@ValyrianPrince]

😂

[@TyBrezzy11]

he underrated fr

[@chibuezeezike5372]

I never heard of him in my life 😂🤣😅. Shout out to him though but Cousy couldn’t play today.

[@supachef_dmoney_4]

That man Bob Cousey got clamps on 2K though lmao

[@mostmost1]

You a baby.

[@TransparentEclipse]

Jj is so much fun as an analyst. Always objective, stands his ground, has high basketball iq. I am glad he chose this career path, he is awesome

[@ronaldomendoza7578]

Fr, he's an actual analyst unlike most of these bozos just spamming "hot takes"

[@TyBrezzy11]

the bob cousy comment is a low IQ take

[@cameron7202]

JJ the GOAT analyst in my book

[@NotExplicable]

The best analysts balances objective vs subjective circumstance

[@razkable]

I wish he used d wade no kyrie...

[@Foreriverricky]

The wish version of skip bayless AKA Rick Payless is low key hilarious

[@TheClubIceMaster]

Rick Payless is funny af 😭

[@legendarywiimaster]

Skip Baseless

[@jonathansykes4986]

Not sure if you were aware but Skip Bayless's brother is Rick Bayless.

[@omar7132]

Cp3 with indestructible hamstrings could have re written the entire modern NBA history as we know

[@houstonmadecaleb]

We would’ve beat the warriors

[@Highmond]

@@houstonmadecaleb you can say that for 90% of the people that haven’t won rings .. part of the game bro and even if it wasn’t they still wouldn’t have got past that warriors team no way

[@Highmond]

@@houstonmadecaleb harden choked so hard that game 7 I don’t think even cp3 could’ve saved him

[@jxmmykriminallive]

@@Highmond if cp3 plays in that game 7 then he’d be there running the offense n it wouldn’t have been all up to harden tryna iso his way to a dub. i ain’t sayin it’s guaranteed the rockets woulda won w him playing but the game definitely would’ve looked a lot different

[@houstonmadecaleb]

@@Highmond yes would’ve beat the warriors we was up and cooking them. Niggas of course you can use that with a lot of players but I don’t care we should’ve won

[@MYS.MVP.]

JJ career after basketball is gonna be amazing, hes just getting started

[@OGSVN]

yeah

[@Ick.-]

yeah

[@ynot3094]

yeah

[@jay7166]

yeah

[@goldlion9066]

yeah

[@ahjahnirodriguez9671]

Ayy technically he has had a below 5 point playoff game and it was against my pels on Sunday . That being said Chris Paul is incredible.

[@emmanuelmondesir1314]

Exactly. Paul is a top 10 damn near top 5 PG of all time.

[@bigaaron]

@@emmanuelmondesir1314 name 5 better though. He's top 5

[@emmanuelmondesir1314]

@@bigaaron i want him to be top 5. Magic Curry Big O Isiah Thomas Chris Paul

[@bigaaron]

@@emmanuelmondesir1314 I'd go Paul over kidd respectfully

[@emmanuelmondesir1314]

@@bigaaron changed it cause kidd was not that great on offense

[@shane6774]

“Bob Cousy was a loser in the nba”. I’m not sure what “loser” is a…. - 13x All Star - 6x nba champion - 10x all-nba first team - 2 nba all star game mvp - 8x nba assists leader - top 75th anniversary player of all time Bob Cousy is credited as giving attention to flashy basketball which heavily increased the leagues popularity and attendance. The league was in its infancy at the time and was desperate for more publicity. It was bc of players like Cousy who brought wide spread attention and interest to the league at the time, that the nba is where it is today with its popularity. A great player in an era will find a way to be great in any era. The game is so different now, it’s just not fair to compare current players such a Chris Paul to Bob. There’s nothing wrong is saying that both Paul and Cousy are great respectively for the time they played. But to call Cousy a “loser” it’s just so disrespectful and not even true. Do some research buddy, bc you’re speaking straight out of your ass with no accurate information. The league may not half been as integrated as it is today. But over half of the Celtics that Bob Cousy played with were black. To name a few, Bull Russel, and KC Jones… And the reason the league was full of plummers and fireman was bc they weren’t making enough money off their nba contracts to not work. This doesn’t mean they weren’t the best talent in the world. It just means they weren’t getting paid alot

[@katherinemurphree6858]

Your comment is beautiful!!! And what bothers me is when he said that they played again firemen and plumbers. So are firemen and plumbers just lazy, lard ass, worthless players? That offends me. So a fireman can be good enough to save your life but can't play basketball good/great? What does that mean? So when a pipeline breaks and this great plumbers saves your house from major flooding, he can't play basketball either????? So basically you can only be great at only one thing in life is what he is trying to say? What an insult to the ball players, firefighters, and plumbers. If I was a plumber and jj called me to come hire me to fix it, I would take me dear sweet time, go out to dinner, do some shopping, hopefully get held up at a long train while I'm headed to do my, POS job. True if I was I got a call at the fire department. Oops,.got a flat on the way, but since I'm so out of shape it took a little longer. He needs to watch who he talks about. It's an uproar about the players, but I'm upset about how he disrespected all 3. One day he will need a fireman and better hope that fireman didn't get as offended about that comment as I did. My dad was a fire captain and also was a great baseball player. Had to get surgery on both knees so couldn't do baseball anymore. So was my dad a POS firefighter or a POS baseball player?.......

[@katherinemurphree6858]

And Bob cousy is sooooooo not a loser! There is a good chance without him and the other few pioneers, there would be no basketball like there is. All these players getting paid um way too much in the millions would be 'plumbers' and Uber drivers today. They shouldn't be talking down. They should be thanking them ever single day for what they started in the wonderful game of basketball.

[@curtiszyr]

Lol

[@twu2293]

He also won mvp in 1957

[@tjlpartners8263]

I was with Cousy when he received an honorary degree. I have never seen grown men and women bow down to a celebrity like that before. He is a legend. He was also a proponent for his black teammates especially when they were discriminated against in the South. I would ask these guys to watch Cousy’s film.

[@zachcoggins9018]

This guy is Chris “Mad Dog” Russo, he’s a baseball guy, and his baseball takes might just be worse. He seems to be on First Take for comedic effect.

[@dragonxx444]

Bro... I bet my LEFT NUT, Espn HQ be like: Guys we need a new clown for people to get mad about... Is Mad Dog still alive? 🤣🤣🤣

[@castanzofranzman2013]

The audacity to go and get diet skip

[@AsianEyes007]

@@castanzofranzman2013 😂😂😂 There can only be one professional troll out there, and Skip Bayless is the irreplaceable pick 🤣

[@yrgln7416]

@@castanzofranzman2013💀💀

[@handles]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LOW!!!

[@SpicyPog]

Damn he getting even older

[@iamteamyou]

With all due respect. A plumber can really bend there knees and get low. Think about it. Mario and Luigi was arguably the greatest backcourt in Plumber Union History😂

[@brianmartinez7357]

Lmao!

[@iamteamyou]

@@brianmartinez7357 thank You Sir👍🏾

[@TheNatedogg0713]

What’s hilarious about this bob cousy take is this man was born in 1959, and Cousy retired in 1963. So either this man somehow has perfect memory at the age of 3/4 for just two seasons or he’s just caping for a guy he’s never actually seen play the game of basketball.

[@wavydavy1289]

He definitely chatting but don’t there’s lots of folks who acknowledge Jordan as the GOAT but they born in 05-07 😂

[@danjulianlorilla3185]

@@wavydavy1289 not even comparable though, we have videos and stuff. There aren't a lot of videos way back in the 50s lol, we didn't even see wilt's 100 point game in 1962

[@student99bg]

And all of you, JJ Reddick included are trashing a guy you weren't alive to see play

[@whooshbait4161]

JJ is right for the most part, but saying CP3 is arguably the GOAT PG after 1 Ring is INSANE. That's disrespectful to Magic and Curry. Who both have MULTIPLE Rings AND MVPs.

[@ndluffy3624]

Debatable but I respect what your saying

[@quesotamale]

Why do people hold rings so high in regards to goat debates? I know it means championships but there are so many nuisances and circumstances that a lot of phenomenal players just couldn’t overcome. Most of the time it’s the better built team instead of who had the better star player

[@kingforte9246]

Stats matter too

[@Emmanny]

@@quesotamale if we are comparing people who both dominated we have nitpick. If they have almost the same stats, production, leadership, etc but one was an instrumental piece in winning championship(s) and one wasnt the champion gets the edge.

[@superseahawk4296]

@@ndluffy3624 um not really debatable chris paul isnt better than Big O, Isiah Thomas, Curry, or Magic

[@MEDDUSAA]

"Chris paul had never had a 5 point playoff game" yeaa.. that aged bad way to quick💀

[@dumbassdude8372]

He had 11 assist in 3 turnovers and thats the definition of badgame for him. He was guarded everytime he touched the ball ofcourse that would drain his stamina for scoring. He had bad one game and people labels hin as playoff choker. Meanwhile Blake and deandre post clippers era became nothing. Thats how you know the clippers team are not championship team, also they are coached by doc rivers

[@loulopez5366]

Ironic

[@KingDavidDGM]

Him and James harden both didn't have a great game six in 2019 against the Warriors either

[@JaredTSM]

@@Supherrz how does that erase the 4 point game from existing lol his comment is still right

[@agtheamazing]

Where you at now fam 👀😂

[@shane6774]

Bob Cousy played with Bill Russel his entire career. If you look at the roster, over half the Celtics in the 50s were black. This “league was segregated” bull crap is just flat out not true

[@dmpdagamer]

Can't believe y'all taking Mad Dog serious about the Bob Cousy thing he's always talking about the old hoopers😂 smh... like I said before let's get to actual playoffs team talk.

[@houstonmadecaleb]

Tbh he just there to get people attention

[@samuelclark1677]

He's trying to be Skip

[@braidenb3973]

In 30 years people will say giannis and curry where guarded by influencers and tiktokers. Everything’s a circle it’ll come around eventually

[@darrengordon-hill]

I've seen games (tanking Nets and 76ers most notably), in which G-League players got NBA minutes ON THE SAME NIGHT as playing in the G-League earlier that day

[@KKOPPONG]

Why is Low insulting Cousy as if he’s the one that said he’s better than CP3. This is some unnecessary slander.

[@kohsmoger1567]

Hes not insulting him hes speaking facts.

[@SLIDESPOT]

JJ talks about these NBA legends as if they played 300 years ago and would be so confused and disoriented by modern players skills they would fall to their knees and beg to be sent back to simpler times. The only skill they lacked was seeing into the future, teleport any of them in their prime to now, give them good shoes, access to youtube and two weeks with modern coaches. They will be as effective

[@thej1615]

Chris Paul has lost 5 series in the playoffs where he’s been up 2-0. The second place player at 4 series is also Chris Paul

[@snipernosniping4714]

Facts

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@snipernosniping4714 yeah most of them have been teammates who underperformed or injuries. Context matters

[@deylack]

bob cousey ever should above %40

[@snipernosniping4714]

@@legendarywiimaster Why do we only apply this logic to Chris Paul’s situation? All of a sudden we’re willing to acknowledge individual performance? Let’s not go there lol

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@snipernosniping4714 I literally apply it to all situations, that’s why I don’t hold three first round exits against MJ, or LeBron’s six finals losses, or Curry missing the playoffs his first few years.

[@quadavis4]

To be honest with the rules back then even if you dropped Kyree in 1960 game 7 of the finals he’d get called for travel every time he tried to crossover. Rules were different back then,you could barely create contact or it was an offensive foul. Plus you had to dribble the ball up and down literally,so no palming the ball or letting your hand go under it or on the side of it when dribbling.

[@mr.police1834]

So what the talent levels are not even comparable, we got guys making 400 threes in a season now and back then all they took as layups

[@unspeakablyawesomebros3392]

Kyrie is still allowed to shoot and he ain’t missing.

[@jeffhardy6333]

@@mr.police1834 there was no 3 point line back then🤣

[@telltheTruth00]

They literally never called travel on Iverson until 2000s stop the cap 😒 all of his dribbles would be legal lol Its just the double step back would be called

[@mr.police1834]

@@jeffhardy6333 you're missing the point but yea you are right, good job

[@iamteamyou]

Latrell Sprewell was once asked why doesn’t he go left?…….. His answer was. "Because no body can stop me from going right!!!” -just like Bob Cousy😂

[@penkima4923]

“I think what's remarkable to me is like you watch him play and he shoots 15 layups to his left hand every game.” - JJ Redick on teammate Zion Williamson.

[@slickeddy2000]

Just saying it goes both ways. Take away personal and team trainers put today’s players in Chuck Taylor’s , personal Chefs and see how great players are. Besides the shooting everyone shot was their shot. Like College/Rookie Lonzo Ball . Cp3 is playing against KZbinrs,Podcasters, and social influencers Bob Cousy vs Fireman 👨‍🚒 and plumber’s.

[@AL.J0077]

The bob cousy take is wild, but jj saying one ring puts cp3 in the greatest conversation is too far as-well

[@v0lium]

how is it too far when he's witnessed his whole career & played WITH & against him his entire career??😭😭you're a casual bro

[@draconbd8896]

@@v0lium as far as greatest pg in think he’d always be like 3rd bc I’m Steph and magic has had way better careers way better stats with way better accolades

[@alexescutia4805]

@@draconbd8896 3rd is IN THE CONVERSATION lmao y’all don’t even know what he said he didn’t said he’d be the best ever he said he’d be in the conversation

[@kyleholtzen6739]

"Chris Paul has never had a 5 point game in the playoffs" Damn he finally had a sell job that these guys are saying he did.

[@drip8758]

Chris Paul just shot 14/14 right after this video 💀💀

[@MrChief-to3fm]

Fun fact: Bob Cousy is a clone of CP3 in 2k in terms of play style and animations, so I guess they equal 😂😂

[@anf9311]

Irrelevant yet interest parallel between Cousy and CP3: That 1958 Finals closout out game LOW referred to at 13:48 is the game where Bob Pettit scored 50 points to clinch the title for the Hawks. The next time a player dropped 50 to win a championship was Giannis last season.. against CP3!

[@m.j.w.2876]

so it was 1 on 1 ?

[@anf9311]

@@m.j.w.2876 Never said it was. The point was CP3 and Cousy were both on the court as opponents for the only two 50-point title clinchers in NBA history, more than 60 years apart. Irrelevant to the main topic, but an interesting parallel between the two players in the discussion.

[@universalplayz7496]

@@anf9311 well I mean bill russel did break his foot and wasn't even in the game to guard Bob petit so the comparison is kinda unfair.

[@anf9311]

I didn't compare anyone. Just acknowledged what I thought was an interesting similarity between the 2 players in the video. Fair or unfair, those outcomes are still in the record books.

[@Mhr6685]

The plumbers and firefighters argument is bs. The NBA was their job everything else was side hustle because they didn’t make enough to live by playing basketball. This was true in the 50s and 60s. But Kyrie transported back to the 60’s he would get called for a carry or a travel on every possession

[@kindleyfernand4389]

Skip Bayless come get your cousin.😂😂😂

[@ovojdabanks210]

Cp had his 5 point game in the playoffs

[@TypicalBlakk]

LMAOOOO

[@Lightwaverable]

🤣

[@fazediamond5671]

Na

[@julianrojas4792]

Cp3 is top 5 for sure but i hate how young people discredit older players. Ive never seen bob cousy but i do know he was magic johnson before magic johnson. Its ok to disagree but put respect on cousys name.

[@airfrance4365]

There's only one Magic and Cousy wasn't no Magic before Magic Stop the nonsense

[@julianrojas4792]

@@airfrance4365 u know who cousy is and how he was the first well knowm person to do no look passes, right? Or r u just saying stuff?

[@ubadman1]

@@julianrojas4792 pete Maravich was the first to consistently do it. Cousy wasn't a special player in the grand scheme of NBA history. he was just lucky to be with russell. wo cousy actually was and what he is creidted for appear to be out of synch.

[@julianrojas4792]

@@ubadman1 u may have a point but that celtics dynasty also is credited with the fastbreak. The russell rebound and the outlet pass to cousy. I think cousy is overlooked. Just my opinion th

[@nyc7187]

“Magic Johnson before magic Johnson” LMFAOOOO insanity

[@tashrif46]

Yes. Bob Cousy is not a top 5 or even top 10 PG of all time. But sometimes I think the likes of JJ Reddick take it a bit too far. I mean just some time ago, Gilbert Arenas said that Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman would not be able to play in today's game. So it goes both ways really. And I heard so many people discrediting Larry Bird just because he is not "athletic" in their eyes.

[@kiyarablue]

I think he only took it there because of mad dogs argument and how he was giving his argument. But jj didn’t say anything too far

[@tashrif46]

@@kiyarablue i think he did. Because he would have said the same thing about Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain. But it is what it is, you don't have to agree.

[@calebstevens9446]

@@tashrif46 that has to do with position and what he’s done. Bill Russell didn’t shoot below 40% from the field, he literally dominated his position same for wilt. Cousy is great for when he played, but dawg….it’s clear as day how much better the guys that came after him were like Jerry and Big O, those two set the standard.

[@jonz23m]

So players would have a hard time in a league where the rules are changed in favor of the offense? People ate just delusional 😂

[@fastbreakreport]

@@tashrif46 My point exactly, if you're going to hold Bob Cousy to certain standard than you need to do that with Russell, Wilt and Kareem cause Cousy was Russell's teammate for 6 of the 13 years Russell was in the NBA.

[@CrestlineIceberg]

Also to add for WIlt, when he came in the NBA, he broke the single season record points per game and rebounds per game in his rookie year. To add that, he also won the MVP that season too. Wes Unseld was the only other rookie to win MVP while Elvin Hayes, if I am not mistaken, was the last rookie to lead the NBA in scoring. Wilt was the only one to do both as a rookie and both single season records he had as a rookie are still standing to this day.

[@Lonewolfmike]

Amazing how people like JJ shit all over the players of the past to make a name for themselves. They have no Respect for the players who came before them and built the league from the ground up. If it wasn't for people like Cousy, Russell, Oscar Robinson, Chamberlain, and the rest JJ would not have been able to play professional basketball and made the money he made. He probably would have been a no-name office worker grinding out a weekly paycheck or been a plumber himself. Oh, and Bill Russell had to deal with a lot of hate when he was with the Celtics because Boston was still, at that time, a very racist city. I really don't know how far it has come since then, but they were not as welcoming as you might think. He put up with a hell of a lot and still played to win.

[@KaiserReb]

Don’t disrespect mad dog by calling him wannabe skip. He was doing sports radio when Stephen a was still in college. Ask any new Yorker in there 50s they know who he is. He was skip before skip

[@BackDoorGangWop]

Lil

[@ubadman1]

no one cares who he was. he is now a clown.

[@travisj8110]

Most of us don’t care what has he done to earn our respect to not call him a knock off even if it may be false

[@KaiserReb]

@@travisj8110 dude practically pioneered sports radio. Respect it.

[@travisj8110]

@@KaiserReb the means nothing to me personally I’m not moved at all. He just popped out of nowhere and started saying the usual clickbait arguments.

[@bd001217]

If Reddick had to dribble according to the ball handling rules that were enforced during the 1960s, he couldn't even dribble with his RIGHT hand. He'd be called for carrying/palming every time.

[@Laxmaverick]

It’s harder to make an 8 team league than a 30 team league I can guarantee JJ Redick wouldn’t make an 8 team league roster in his era no cap

[@MannyParadisee]

Just stop. Players now are WAYYYYYYYY more skilled now. There’s bench players who can do a lot more than STARTERS back then. The league is stacked with talent.

[@TheStreetScientist]

If you put Kyrie in the 60s, they would call carry 100 times and make sure he fouls out.

[@JaredTSM]

Still would be an elite scorer and it's very easy for him to change how he dribbles

[@tae1466]

@@JaredTSM he would look way different. He’d have to change damn near all his moves

[@natejacobs1044]

I can’t believe he tried to use Cousy having 29 assists in a game to say he’s the GOAT PG lmfao. By that logic Scott Skiles should be the goat

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

The dude just doesn't know how to argue. Cousy was more than just a guy who had 29 assists. He was making those Magic Johnson passes 30 years before Magic did it. He was that revolutionary. Yeah he sucked as a shooter but it was just how things went then. Thing is Cousy was a major contributor to 5 championship teams and he was ahead of his time. CP3 has never won anything despite having a great level of talent around him. At some point, you just gotta stop protecting CP3 from criticism. It seems that we just say he's a top 5 PG but there's nothing to back that up. He's not better than Magic or IT. Not better than Stockton. Not better than Kidd or Nash. Not better than West or Robertson. Not better than Steph or Tony Parker. He's maybe top 10 but definitely near the bottom of that top 10. The playoffs are where you shine and prove you're a top 10 player. CP3 has fizzled out too many times to have a legit case. Say what you will about Cousy, he did win 5 chips and he contributed to that winning in a major way.

[@happycampr108]

@@THE_BEAR_JEW u took all that time to spout bullshit😂 sorry for ur loss

[@Baccanaso]

@@happycampr108 he's right and u mad tho

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

@@happycampr108 Took me like 1 minute. You can do that too if you stop wasting time scrolling through your emojis like some 18 year old girl.

[@clauzelmoutima6490]

@@THE_BEAR_JEW no your ignoring the context to everything you’re not talking about the era’s the players and all the other little things you talk about Chris paul having great teams yet ignore match ups individual games within the series you forgot to actually argue using context that is why your argument is poor you didn’t talk about the teams the individual games within the series or even the players they had and how some of them had bad performances in those series you can’t chalk it up to just they won championships so there better that’s a lazy argument

[@MichaelJordanFansAreTheBest]

These videos show how ignorant modern nba fans are

[@ThePrescriber]

Facts, I like Low he's knowable with his stats & whatnot, but his opinions like this aint it.

[@blakestrauch404]

Well this aged poorly

[@TypicalBlakk]

Ong It Did Bob Cousy It’s Better Than CP0 😂😂😂

[@fazediamond5671]

@@TypicalBlakk no

[@DankSwegSkuxxXhayel]

"Bob Cousy couldn't dribble with his left hand" that ends the debate entirely. You can't call a man a transcendent player if an 8 year old Kobe Bryant can figure you out... A qoute directly from Kobe "I figured out at a young age that most kids can't go left, I'd clamp the right hand, get a steal and lay it up"...

[@m.j.w.2876]

dude this is completely false is u watched any footage

[@kingad8869]

@@rmelo2382 No that's dumb. Cousy is just overall less talented than CP3. Just like DeAndre Jordan is less talented than Wilt. Nothing to do with eras or "advanced technology" or whatever excuse you wanna give them 50s players.

[@kingad8869]

@@rmelo2382 I've seen enough Wilt and enough DJ to make that determination, it ain't that hard. Just need to balls to stand with conviction unlike you who's just being wishy washy. You keep adding excuses like "money" and "knowledge of the game". Call it wat you want, it still proves the 50s are trash.

[@jackoftradesmaterofnone585]

@@rmelo2382 my 5”9 ass would of been lighting dudes up from 3 if I played in the nba when bob cousy played, he wouldn’t score a point on me

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

@@kingad8869 You can't read. The reason CP3 is more talented is because you can now be just a basketball player and you're trained at a very young age. It's why guys like LaMelo and Luka are coming in and instantly being difference-makers. Cousy was actually VERY good. He could make passes that were like something Magic would do. He wasn't a great shooter but literally the entire league was trying to figure the game out back then. By the time West and Robertson came in, they had 10 years of basketball to look at. By the time CP3 came in, guys could legitimately JUST play basketball, plus he's got all the technology and medicine behind him that you didn't have in the 1950s. It's just dumb to call CP3 a better player when we don't know what he would've been in Cousy's era and we don't know what Cousy would've been today. What we do know is that both guys had great talent on their squads. CP3 has had some of the best teams in the league for the past decade and he has had ZERO championships. Cousy won 6. Plus Cousy contributed in a major way to those chips. CP3 has contributed in a major way to all the losing. There's no excuse for his performance vs the Mavs and there's no excuse for dropping a 2-0 lead last year. No excuse for being bounced by Corey Brewer and Josh Smith against Houston. No excuse for playing like trash in the 2019 WC Semis during crucial moments. It's just silly to keep protecting CP3 like he isn't a historical playoff choker when it matters most.

[@pp3917]

Idk if y’all ever watch old school basketball but there is a HUGE difference between the 50’s and the 60’s. Now imagine comparing both eras with the MODERN NBA

[@2cents250]

i would still puck cousy over cp3 in the playoffs. he is way more reliable

[@derquandoucett7986]

I ain’t trynna disagree with yu low but it’s crazy how the day I watched this video Chris Paul had a 5 point game 😂😂

[@AHamp123]

Bob Cousey just chillin then old heads wanna overhype him and now he’s the symbol of OldHead basketball somehow lmao

[@demonkingbadger6689]

To be fair, he about the only one from the 1950s still alive. (I think Bob Pettit mjght be too)

[@Elguapodelfuego]

players like wilt would have dominated in any era

[@deylack]

he’s a twig shaq and gianni’s would break him in half

[@Elguapodelfuego]

@@deylack Bro what? You definitely don't know wilt. Arnold said he was the strongest human being he's ever seen. Dude was a freak of nature. He would have sent shaq flying with his strength

[@deylack]

@@Elguapodelfuego so you believe faked stories people claimed happend +45 years ago? 😂😂😂😂😂 people believe anything

[@deylack]

@@Elguapodelfuego gainnis and shaq would merk him 😂 stop believing everything you hear on the internet

[@Elguapodelfuego]

@@deylack There are videos and pictures. Bruh you do know the world existed before the year 2000 right? Prisoner of the moment. Ur a clown

[@adriandecaxias488]

this didn’t age well😬😬

[@KJACK11823]

Skip Bayless lite is crazy🤣🤣🤣

[@coreydon7097]

And I'll bet you JJ Redick who was a marginal defender at his best in the NBA couldn't guard Bob Cousy

[@grief6052]

Lmao sure, a primitive basketball player riding on the coatails of bill russel is gonna take on a professional who was considered to be one of the best 3 point shooters in the game at the time and was one of the very few people who played that playstyle before steph curry came in. You’re not very good at betting

[@coreydon7097]

@@grief6052 You obviously no nothing about the history of Bball. Cousy was a league MVP, 13 time All Star, 10 time All NBA first team and 6 time Champion. Learn about the games history before running your mouth with some foolish uneducated nonsense

[@JMlolVal]

@@coreydon7097 basketball is a much different game now. Any decent point fusrd can beat cousy because players today is way more skilled than players in the 50s

[@coreydon7097]

@@JMlolVal So give Cousy all the advantages that today's players have and he'd run circles around JJ Redick

[@kendricklaw6748]

when jj said "u can't compare eras" russo LITERALLY SAID "yes u can" then when jj said put kyrie back then bozo is like "aH tHatS nOT fAiR"

[@Papichulo-xc5nd]

Kendrick law Kyrie would get called for traveling every play in the 60s dummy do you’re research

[@jasonoyola590]

@@Papichulo-xc5nd kyrie would cook those guys dont be a dumb ass

[@Papichulo-xc5nd]

@@uunameduser_ he’s not comparing, he’s just saying Cousy is better relative to era

[@Papichulo-xc5nd]

@@uunameduser_ the time machine argument isn’t fair he’s right, but to say Cousy was better than cp3 relative to their eras is totally fair.

[@ubadman1]

@@Papichulo-xc5nd kyrie would dominate the NBA in the 50s with his eyes closed.

[@shawnishere1494]

Damn low’s 2nd NBA channel better than NBA KZbinrs main channels💀

[@AlenLin]

A more interesting comparison would be Jason Kidd versus Bob Cousy. Two point guards that can't score efficiently, but still made everyone else around them better with their court awareness, ability to read the defense, and set up their teammates for an easy one. Kevin Johnson would be a more direct comparison to Chris Paul. Kevin Johnson turned the Suns around to a winning franchise the season they started him, 55+ wins, and kept it that way throughout most of his career, even before Barkley joined the Suns. Their numbers are virtually identical.

[@dwightturner2642]

When Houston played golden state that year when he kick curry out the gym trying to keep him from warming up what happen Chris is a choker

[@fazediamond5671]

No

[@igweofart]

The disrespect is real if you don’t win a title

[@yeahaight3495]

Arguments that can be made on behalf of Cousy: 1. “There were only 8 teams” That means that, on a nightly basis, Cousy had to play against members of the top 100 players in the world. You had to be MUCH better than your peers to earn a spot on a team back then. Nowadays, the top 600 players in the world are in the NBA. (The limit on the number of black players allowed on teams diminished the quality of players within the league, and that fact weakens this argument) 2. “Cousy only got 1st team All NBA once while Jerry West and Oscar Robertson were in the league” First, no he did it twice. Secondly, Cousy was already a 10 year veteran by the time West and Robertson entered the league. He retired 2 years after their rookie seasons so of course he’s not going to beat them for All-NBA… BECAUSE HES NOT IN THE LEAGUE

[@mrmiguel_00]

He had to play against the top 100 players in the world because the league had about 100 players, there’s about 450 players in todays league, it’s much bigger yes but it’s also way more talented, so that arguments don’t really help out Cousy

[@thej1615]

Not in the world. League wasn’t international back then.

[@zbynx]

There might have been fewer teams, but also way fewer people who wanted to play on them. There won't be any data available for that, but it would be much more interesting to compare how many people competed for one spot on an NBA roster back then as opposed to now. That would give us a much better idea when it was the most difficult to make the league. I'm only guessing, but I think right now there are many more people who are dreaming of playing in the NBA (or rather, are actively doing everything they can to achieve that goal) than there were in the '60s.

[@yeahaight3495]

I agree with many of the comments regarding my first point. It’s not really possible to determine how talented the league was at that time since it wasn’t international and interest in the sport was lesser than it is now. Good eye, folks.

[@akaurfear]

He addresses your first point at 9:47 did you even listen to it?

[@Shmurdyyplugg]

I can update, chris paul has 1 5 point game in the playoffs

[@lato2102]

lmao i was thinking that too when he said it

[@Akumpo3434]

😂

[@bboywolf]

he's not a bad playoff performer, he's a choker. the same way you said all the greats have bad games, a lot of great but non championship players also have good numbers lol barkley for example. except barkley has done way more bob cousy was in his 10th year when they came in at 32 years old... back when 30 was old in sports. bob cousy led the league in assists. you gotta be stupid lol if he was nasty with no effort imagine with today's effort.

[@qualitydyl7088]

But look at all close out games in the playoffs for Chris Paul in almost all of them be preformed great

[@Rieky22]

Cp3 is not a choker relax

[@kingroy2045]

Still a bum

[@redpillfreedom6692]

@@Rieky22 5 blown 2-0 leads and a blown 3-1 lead. He's a choker.

[@praneelbasu3699]

@@redpillfreedom6692 No context

[@NickPR87]

My issue wasn't with the comment about Cousy, it's the fact it sounded like he was completely disregarding and disrespecting the players that came before him just to make a point about CP3 and his place in history. I think Jerry West's reply was an adequate response.

[@WaZdATyoSisTeR]

Crazy that CP3 had a 4 point game last game, scary timing.

[@joshuasutton983]

Yep

[@bighomey1090]

Then went 14/14 lol

[@loub7265]

This aged so well after the mavs series😂

[@iiTzLurks]

There was no 3 point line so you have to take that into consideration

[@MelloDeeBeats]

When we’re arguing about Bob Cousy being better than Chris Paul, we’re going into the land of ridiculousness. First Take and a lot of TV sports media is a circus.

[@TyBrezzy11]

you are probably 15 so hush

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

Cousy was better though. CP3, given all his better training and his great teammates has ZERO championships and a decade of playoff meltdowns. Cousy had great teams too but he actually won. You can't just disregard that cause CP3's stats look nicer. His stats are about as worthless as Westbrook's given how they both have only made 1 Finals, lost it, and had great teams that ended up in disappointment. Westbrook is a boneheaded player and CP3's IQ is higher, but the outcome is the same because they're both just stat guys.

[@gameboysp100]

Basketball fans are so weird. In no other major sport do I hear people calling older eras trash. It would be like calling Babe Ruth a bad hitter because the fast balls back in his time barely broke 60 MPH. Its just a wild tone that I don't understand. I mean, i get that older generations weren't as skilled and the league was smaller, but they were basically inventing the game as they played. Cousy basically invented behind the back no look passes. He helped invent the fast break. He, and many of his peers, were pioneers, innovators. And they weren't paid tons of money to do it. They did it for a passion of the game. It is wildly disrespectful to look at all that and say that their stats were bad, the whole decade was trash. Personally, I think Bob Cousy's natural talent was amazing. He had fast hands, good court vision, and was highly creative. If he was born in a more recent era his numbers would have been much better. That said, Mad Dog Russo is absolutely huffing some serious copium here. I get being upset that the old hoopers are being disrespected, but then there is just being in denial. Bob Cousy himself admitted that there were kids being taught what he invented and pulling it off better then he did.

[@EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach]

Loving this video. People don't realize the NBA was founded in 1947, not 1908. So to your point when Bob Cousy was drafted, it was a brand new league. No real backing and them cats had to have 9-5s. It wasn't until like the 70s-80s where the majority if not all of the nba were finally able to live off their NBA checks and devote their time to the game. BOB PLAYED AGAINST FIREMEN AND PLUMBERS ALL TRUE... Jerry West and Oscar, Played Against less firemen and plumbers and by the time we get to Magic, they were all hoopers because they could all live off that profession and make good money.

[@EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach]

AND..... The segregation ball.... Lets call a spade a spade, I feel the same way about "greats" in other leagues too... When you don't play against ALL top talent, I cannot consider you to be great. Especially in Bob's case when the league finally became integrated in a lighter degree and he was not that dude.

[@deonlepharaoh]

Anybody disrespecting Cousy is a clown....the man literally changed how basketball was played when he pioneered fast breaking..... literally every team for the next 30 years tried to copy that style of play to match the success the Celtics had because of that style of play.... Wilt scores 50 a game due to the break neck pace the league played at due to cousy and the Celtics It wasn't until Jordan came along that everything changed to running sets to exploit mismatches which after he dominated, made every team copy that idea and that became the new meta...

[@Channel1941]

We have never seen a PG as good as CP3 at this age. CP3 is the most complete Point Guard of all time. It’s a reason why his nickname is “Point God”

[@Groin_molecules]

Facts

[@PandasRViolent]

@@Groin_molecules John Stockton? Steve Nash? Both of which never won a chip, but had great regular seasons, but neither of the two had such poor playoff runs as well they both retired at 41, which I don't see CP3 playing much past that if he reaches that.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

But he's still a career chokerm

[@lsb4353]

@@PandasRViolent cp3 is objectively more talented the Stockton in every regard

[@PandasRViolent]

@@lsb4353 False, Just cause he looks like your 10th grade math teacher does not mean he's not extremely talented. Even if Cp3 is more talented and I'm not saying he is Stockton is still the better NBA player. Unlike your Point God he's not Bouncing around a new team every couple seasons.

[@ryanb9305]

So some chubby kid in a Nintendo 64 shirt who looks like he never touched a basketball let alone grass is telling us about some player he’s never seen before? Lmfao okay

[@DAVAND23]

Every great player has had bad games or series in the playoffs. I hate when talking heads try to use that to determine the players whole career. Chris Paul doesn't have a chip because he's either run into dynasties or he got hurt. It doesn't take away from his greatness. A championship is a team accomplishment and everyone's not going to be able to win one. It wouldn't mean much if everyone won a championship.

[@Eddy_Vibez]

What is this guys fetish with Bob Cousy 🤣 he always brings that nigga up like he Jordan or Bron wtf

[@LordMesa]

This video was great. Really help put perspective into the debate. He wasn't that good even then. Not when you factor in the players that weren't allowed to play.

[@kingad8869]

@@rmelo2382 It was trash, sorry that this fact upsets you.

[@kingad8869]

@@rmelo2382 You literally have given 0 reason why they are any good besides them being in an 8 team mostly segregated league and being a "pioneer". The league average shooting was sub 40%. Trash league. Trash players. But you probably think Kenny Sailors is above Steph since he's the jumpshot pioneer.😂

[@ShadowWizard224]

The reason why the Celtics never won before Bill Russell was because they were lacking in defense and rebounding. That’s why they went and got Russell because that’s the main piece that they were missing and Russell filled it perfectly. That’s when the fast break was invented. It’s not necessarily because Cousy sucked.

[@itstaemonson]

Injury is literally the only thing that keeps CP3 from having won a ring. For the most part.

[@itstaemonson]

@CalNotNice well.. Sure but it’s not like Gianni’s isn’t an all time great. You don’t have to kick one player down to praise the other. I’m so happy for Ginnis TBH.

[@fazediamond5671]

@@itstaemonson he already top 75

[@SonNguyen-pv1ru]

IF it wasn't for injury Chris paul wouldn't even get past the first round in the 2021 and 2022

[@-ac-8296]

If Kyrie Irving was transported back to the 60s he would be called for travel every time he touched the ball

[@AndreInThe416]

These arguments are so weak. When Robertson came into the league, Cousy was 34 already. Is JJ telling us Walt Frazier and Maravich couldn't excel today? BS.

[@ryanlapp7488]

13:15 bro u just said at 2:50 that every player has bad games and you don’t know why people point it out but your doing the same for bob cousey lol.

[@Ray_Reverse9]

This is why first take is the worst debate show rn ever since Max left it’s just a Competition who can say the most whack shit on tv😂😂🤦🏿‍♂️

[@rmuzic6531]

I think most of you must be under the age of 35...yes I'm 43 and I never seen BC play or know to much about him but I respect his career....JJ disrespected all the players from the past...we know from physical talent that Paul is better but interms of impact in that era BC was better.

[@legendarywiimaster]

The amount of disrespect people do to pre 1970s players is insane. Respect the people who pioneered the game and made it possible to see your favorite players play

[@unpoplaropinions8592]

What did bob cousey pioneer ? 🤔🤔 cuz honestly jrue holiday would drop him off

[@_d.v.j.l_2624]

@@unpoplaropinions8592 exactly 😂

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

The plumbers and fireman comment may have been a bit too far but in the larger context he’s had a point. It’s one thing to respect Bob Cousy for what he did. But to compare him to Chris Paul? They are nowhere near the same levelZ

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@goldenstatewarriors9418 I don’t think Bob Cousy is better than Chris Paul, but JJ went way too far

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@unpoplaropinions8592 great passer, 29 assists in one game is insane, not his fault that he played in the 50s

[@Romanus-]

Why does Bill Russell and Oscar Robertson get their respect but every time it’s Jerry West or Pistol Pete etc somehow they’re bums. Can’t wait for 40 years from now when ppl will be calling Jokic and Luka plumbers.

[@_CJCJ.]

Jerry and pistol get nothing but praise

[@TheLeftie600]

The skills from Cousy’s era were truly embryonic, his game is completely incomparable to Chris Paul’s. Cousy and Chris Paul are both great players but these kind of comparisons should never be made.

[@ajanddj7874]

Bob cousy isn't even better than ricky rubio. The skill gap from the 50's to now is so extreme that you really cannot say anyone playing in that era is great by todays standards

[@TheReal_Mess]

@@ajanddj7874 most bench point guards today are better than cousy. Still he was the third best point guard in his time.

[@BigA678]

Yet no one discredits wilts career when he played in the same era. Cousy played against plumbers, Bill Russell played against cab drivers, and Wilt played in that same era. Keep that same energy

[@ajanddj7874]

@@BigA678 everyone discredits him. Based off stars alone he should be the goat but everyone has context so they know he played against garbage and had to play 48.5 minutes to get his 50 point avg

[@BigA678]

@@ajanddj7874 everyone discredits him? Not a single person on planet earth said he scored 100 against plumbers. Let's be serious

[@SelfResearchedNBAFacts]

I don't think Cousy is necessarily better than Paul but Bob Cousy is easily a top 5 passer to ever live. I got Magic, Maravich, Bird and Cousy as the best passers ive ever seen live or on film. I think offensively Bob Cousy was amazing and dead even with Chris Paul, but defensively is where Paul really separates as better than Cousy but lets not start dissin old dudes. Bob Cousy couldn't only dribble with his left hand but could make 15 foot lay ups with either hand. Now players of today would also struggle in the 60s because they would carry and travel. Also Bob Cousy won an MVP with Bill Russell on his team. Cousy wasnt a jump shooter but neither was Magic

[@dfrnt_hues]

I love that JJ said he played Plumbers because they literally had drunkards, milkmen, firemen etc out there. So when you see the stats for Wilt & Cousy you have to understand their comp was not full time players & they were

[@22thedon90]

Cousy yeah but Wilt could play in any era but yeah they’re only few players from that era that can play in today’s NBA

[@tord2354]

Aye don't drag Wilt into this, he would still be the most athletic player in the league, and by quite a wide margin, I might add. Truly great players transcend eras.

[@jordaniscancelled3327]

Wilt played against Bill Russell and other great big men of the 1960s. Cmon now

[@Batowl1]

Most nba players in the 60s were professionals

[@OGSauceDaddy]

Wilt career suspect too

[@ArigatoGyroo]

If bob cousy Isn't better than chris paul then bill russel Isn't better than anthony davis. I'm just saying If we're gonna be consistent with the 'respect your elders' thing than we have to do It for bob cousy too

[@snipernosniping4714]

Yall swear he doesn’t get his flowers. Nobody with a brain would say that CP3 isn’t among the greatest pgs ever; and he’s been regarded that highly for AT least 5 years. If anything, we sweep his post season struggles under the rug.

[@TypicalBlakk]

Update?

[@tregainc]

whoooooo dropped 50 in the close out game?

[@dwightlove3704]

Marcus Haynes of The Harlem Globetrotters taught Cousy everything he knew.Cousy owes his career to the man Basketball historians call The Greatest Ballhandler who ever lived.

[@u2bgeye679]

LITERALLY LITERALLY LITERALLY LITERALLY LITERALLY

[@BT405]

The one thing I'll say about Cousy's efficiency is just to look at Jason Kidd and tell me it's any different with him. Looking at their overall career numbers it's pretty similar.

[@dashauncarney9651]

Like inefficient NBA players never existed.Just because your inefficient doesn't mean your bad.

[@Papichulo-xc5nd]

Facts Kidd shot 39%

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

@@Papichulo-xc5nd 40% from the field

[@kingad8869]

Yea, shooting 39% against Kobe is better than shooting 39% against Dolph Schayes

[@Papichulo-xc5nd]

@@kingad8869 when Bob Cousy retired in 1963 the NBA was 40% black

[@greatest515]

Injuries don’t just happen out of nowhere . Chris Paul doesn’t work hard enough on his body/shape. He lacks championship discipline. Don’t make it seem like he’s just unlucky for 15 years. Those injuries are on him!!! Those failures are on him

[@MikeyDaRed]

Lo went crazy with “segregation ball” 😭😭

[@christopherrichmond939]

Just gained a subscriber. Good ish

[@patrick05Morgan]

They would think kyrie was Lord Voldemort cuh💀

[@dashauncarney9651]

On offense.

[@isojoe125]

Yeah but players weren't allowed to dribble the same

[@jokester8972]

Low you should post anything here on your second channel like gaming, reactions things of that nature

[@Lordmikejay]

I'm a Bob Cousy Fan too 🤣 2 MVPs and 6 and 0 in the Finals

[@ultraydude]

You can't really drop a modern player into the old version of the league. The rules were very different from what we're used to. Chris Paul would get called for a travel everytime he bounces the ball, it was illegal to bend your wrist while dribbling back then. That's a huge handicap that modern players have never had to deal with. Imagine literally only being able to slap the ball in order to dribble. That's what Cousy had to deal with. Was Cousy a generational talent? Naw not in the slightest, but talent is talent regardless of era. You don't earn the nickname houdini of the hardwood for no reason.

[@hughesjanus]

CP wouldn't even have to dribble. Just play off ball and just shoot lol.

[@notimportant3686]

this dude went waaaaaaaaaaay too far the other way with it..... of course that era is way weaker than EACH era that followed it, the sport naturally progressed and improved.... there was no need for all this agitated venom... it was actually weird you got so worked up about it

[@fazediamond5671]

Solznsage just joked about it

[@dominicrigsby8547]

It's just a part of history you don't want to hear. There was no venom. Just something that obviously you don't want to hear.

[@notimportant3686]

@@dominicrigsby8547 wrong... i don't mind hearing any historical facts... the fact that this is where your mind went, shows YOUR bias... please don't project that on to me

[@supsoko]

I would have looked at the camera and said "Who the fuck is Bob Cousy?...."

[@kristsostad7571]

This even more wild after the pelicans series where he went 14/14