For Honor - UPDATED Updated Warlord Parry and Guardbreak Punishes

So, here we are again. Punishes changed with the rework.
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[@bongocat5223]

I think you'll find max punish is always the ledge

[@Mattman_90]

This is the best comment I think this video will ever get.

[@TSE_WOODY]

True ChadLord here

[@airmandawn2638]

Warlord will find a way to ledge you, no matter the cost.

[@GudHunterYT96]

Thiz needs to be pinned

[@Shitzukaka]

Not after his throw distance nerf. Warlord is C class at best but we know we still mop the floor with him

[@_ShiX]

Why is it so difficult to give the old cast of heroes proper reworks?

[@BarakYEET]

I feel like they really improved on making new characters but they somehow have big problems reworking old heroes.

[@negan4089]

Shugo got a good one

[@Am4t3r4su]

I don't feel this was intended to be a "rework" More like a tweak to move his power from out of stamina pressure to regular combat. I'm happy they finally gave the guy some freakin damage finally, I mean he was such a limp noodle before. I think he literally had the lowest damage numbers in the game besides maybe Peacekeepers base numbers without bleed... Now at least when I hit someone, they feel it. Is he overall in a BETTER spot? I'm not good enough to say myself. I prefer his current state now, but still feel his full block stance is the weakest in the game but not near as bad as it was before...

[@SergeantTittyfist]

@@negan4089 Hardly. Shugoki is still massively flawed as a character. Things like his 2000ms miss recovery and abhorrently useless headbutt should not exist.

[@GameFuMaster]

@@SergeantTittyfist I feel like that's how bashes should work in general. Do damage to stamina to put pressure on your opponents rather than just giving free damage.

[@highestqualitypigiron]

You should've included his fullblock punishes Ah wait nevermind

[@carmendemairena6972]

@tgod44 i The joke is that the punishes of his full block are so inconsistent, and most of the time not guaranteed, so they may as well not exist.

[@airmandawn2638]

I would be happy to have Gundmunder's moves for Warlord even if they don't change him what so ever.

[@Flowilty]

Thanks so much for the shoutout Freeze always fun to make these!

[@austinstone1452]

Warlord really has no pressure. He doesnt have and unblockable that he can feint when the opponent is oos like nearly every other hero does.

[@Mattman_90]

Forever informative Freeze, they really should have done something about his shield riposte. Great vid.

[@pelinalwhitestrake1176]

Just started maining Warlord (Mostly for ledging) very glad to see this 👍🏻

[@awerechimp1517]

the sound of the wind blowing at the end of the video is more exiting than his rework

[@commonsense9076]

Best Warlord punish: Once the fight is concluded, First throw salt then follow up with a punishing T bag. This punish does hurt the beaten hero but lands a critical hit on the soul of the player.

[@strikerx9072]

I do Jump Heavy Into a headbutt Into the light Then a left light Then I grab and throw them away That right there usually works but when I'm playing against people who are Parry God's I have to faint into the grab then throw them away But thanks for explaining the rework because I played warlord literally once before the rework and I don't know why but I just decided to pick him up and I've been playing him ever since for the past 3 days

[@James-pq1lx]

Any chance you could do a HL Max punish video?

[@thirtyonefifty3133]

Glad I'm not the only one notice changes that does 0 good for WL.

[@themmeatsweats]

@freeze If your guard is right, the min back throw guarantees 2 buffered side heavies. the min back throw in left guard guarantees a buffered light into side heavy for 53

[@luislebron8701]

Thank you

[@jarlralofthewarlord3996]

What about his joke of hyper armour? I doubt it has changed but I'm curious.

[@commandercarwash9278]

Still dont get why headsplitter headbutt had to be nerfed. Like, 90% of the time it'll get blocked or parried. If vortiger basically gets a free 35 damage from light bash light. Warlord can get the headbutt.

[@cormoranoimperatore8413]

The bash after the light isn't guaranteed anymore.

[@magnithorson6568]

I actually really like Warlord as is.

[@jaydenschelmety7610]

I think he just needs a few more tweaks to be a faire to play as and against character like his delayed head but having a different dodge time than his normal one and his all block should be unblockable but also make it so he can’t use it without being hit first and other quality of life improvements

[@myriaddespair7443]

Will there be an updated one for PK?

[@DiabloTraeluz]

I thought that black box behind Warlord in the intro was a shading error, not the point arrow when the point is Neutral.

[@mightyjoeyoung9741]

For Helm Splitter. You say it's not a mix-up and they can safely buffer a dodge. What about dodge headbutt vs chained headbutt after helm splitter? Can you wait and confirm dodge headbutt if they buffer a dodge?

[@FedoraFlickNick]

Hey Freeze, was wondering if you could do a punish guide for Nobushi. Couldn’t find one on the channel but I could just be blind and I was curious about her OOS parry punishes since they seem to differ a lot

[@fkkfreeze]

Nobu is the next on the list for the updates :)

[@teh_jibbler]

I have a hard time remembering all of hers cuz it changes in a lot of situations. But it also makes it more fun to play nobu sometimes. Here's some stuff I can remember: GB: Top Heavy Light Parry: Top Heavy Heavy Parry: Viper's retreat or first part of zone if bleed at cap OoS GB: Forward Throw -> Delayed bleed light -> top heavy. (I like to forward dash for both attacks since you can and it makes it easy to land them.) OoS GB (enemy back to wall, not bleeding): Forward Throw -> Delayed bleed light -> light -> kick -> top heavy OoS GB (enemy back to wall, bleeding): Forward Throw -> Top heavy -> top heavy OoS GB (enemy stuck in a corner): Forward Throw -> Top heavy -> top heavy -> kick -> top heavy

[@nick2354]

GB shortest backthrow. Side heavy side heavy for 70dmg....was this missed?

[@roasty-]

The side heavy finisher is 40dmg, so that would be 75dmg total.

[@fkkfreeze]

whiffs

[@jovan7365]

@@fkkfreeze throwing and having them fall into a wall seems to guarantee it

[@fkkfreeze]

well yeah

[@jovan7365]

@@fkkfreeze lol my b, I just continued watching the vid

[@wolvenedvard3049]

What’s that shield? From an event?

[@corey8941]

You can get 2 side heavies without a wall for the out of stam guard break your gaurd needs to be to the right, throw them left and while walking to the right get 2 right side heavies

[@Flowilty]

that sounds like the opposite of what would work but ill test it

[@devilsmessanger]

how do you get that timing widget like one at 0:52 ?

[@cerdi_99]

training mode

[@nickolas_thegnar5125]

Hey, how about I give you something to make a video about, you've probably already made a flicker glitch video already but with the black prior being realized there is a new one that I found out, well that someone was using against me in a ranked match. So basically you do a side heavy (usually left) and then before the animation even starts you go into bulwark stance and from there most likely a heavy. I was testing it out with a friend and I wasn't able to get it done reliably but still managed to a few times.

[@jordankrumins8745]

You went over how if you block right and dodge left the zone/light after the leap attack you can cover all outcomes, but can it work against assassins?

[@fkkfreeze]

Yes, assassins cant cover all options. Careful with your zone or they might get an accidental deflect ;)

[@polkipies4678]

Will dou do one for PK?

[@the1ghrol]

I’m still waiting on the updated Highlander punishes video with SpyDaGoat

[@Kronixs14]

0:34 how do you do the shield punch after the parry?

[@clayton2176]

Press x immediately

[@Mustacheoro]

I appreciate these videos, and like how they're funny and realistic to players. Could you do gladiator next?

[@Chief592]

Mustacheoro he’s made one already

[@Mustacheoro]

@@Chief592 Not an updated one. His still nets a guardbreak from a parry.

[@kotevbote80]

I think i got a video of what you said it is impossible earlier in the video 'how to make your feints more believable' at atound 3:10

[@l4rry199]

How can you enable the thing that shows your timings?

[@UnPokemon]

It's in the training mode's option.

[@oldre21]

Here's an off topic question but may make for a good project. It feels like black Prior has more superior block frames on his light than Warden and maybe others. I'd check this but I have no real way to do so. This may be known or may be totally wrong.

[@azkhoyo731]

He already showed that black prior has 100ms-300ms of superior block while warlord only has 100ms-200ms of superior block. I think valk is same as warlord. I dunno about warden times, but highlander is same as black prior.

[@thydupont5635]

Black priors lights have the same amount of block frames as highlander which is about 300ms while warden and warlord have something like 150ms so black prior has more than double warlords and wardens superior block frames

[@oldre21]

Marcus Dupont nice.... I thought warlord had those frames because his light was 600 ms EDIT: Highlander not warlord

[@Am4t3r4su]

@@oldre21 His top light is 600 MS. Side lights are 500.

[@oldre21]

Am4t3r4su sorry, meant to say Highlander not warlord

[@deadeye007jon]

So when are we getting the updated updated updated Warlord punish video?

[@fkkfreeze]

don't rub it in :((( I don't trust them... hey're gonna change something again with Wl, the moment I make the video. if you're interested in his punishes you can check here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GrDRm_2w-2bjt9vw0Jowd2xNzOJDDBH_MAXWbStzA_w/edit#gid=1447833472

[@yozoragg5702]

can you link your xbox acc to your pc acc??

[@puretestosterone9614]

Give us old warlord Parry punish, shield bash into heavy, should do 25 damage(automatically better than zone as long as it totally doesn't drain your stamina bar like it does now).

[@airmandawn2638]

During those times it was 30 damage due to side heavy, god it would be a dream to see that again.

[@jaydenschelmety7610]

That and a guaranteed all block heavy

[@puretestosterone9614]

@@jaydenschelmety7610 my dream warlord

[@InsurgentFrog]

This is unrelated to the video, but will we be getting minion finishers back?

[@scoobydoo981]

No, it was used as unlock attacks against other players, for example shinobi minion clearing couldn't be parried or blocked

[@InsurgentFrog]

@@scoobydoo981 They could've just changed shinobi's minion clearing attacks, shame to see all those animations go away

[@evilhoneybadger6835]

Yes more updates

[@jacksonsmith1890]

So did his damage on heavys and lights get nerfed a bit?

[@babaganoush9237]

Buffed. They were absolute trash before.

[@jacksonsmith1890]

BABA GANOUSH ok thanks

[@OXhuls]

warlord is a beast!

[@pimpsterpidgeon4502]

All they had to do for the crashing charge was make it not wallsplat but still knockdown OOS opponents like shugo charge does now. The chains and damage increase is nice though but also why is his parry bash punish so bad still? same with glad...

[@jaydenschelmety7610]

Because ubi was making a better sword and shield hero

[@pegaweegee2522]

Updated PK punishes :0

[@bassmit9651]

Can you do shinobi next?

[@kravaristheocharis4840]

has anyone checked the new tier list..? wtf happened to duel's tiers..?

[@Flowilty]

the dodge buff happened, were back to staring contest meta with chip lead.

[@kravaristheocharis4840]

@@Flowilty oh ok i see.. i havent played for a while, obviously i missed something..

[@notthalis9545]

baxtyr did the staring contest meta ever even stop tbh

[@mariusmuller9227]

Still zero consistency on his full block stance?

[@muro4796]

It seems to be consistent in that blocking a light gives you a stab/headbutt+stab while blocking a heavy gives the heavy followup. Useful occasionally I guess, still quite weak

[@SomeKnight]

For everyone in the comment section: They gave improvements to Warlord, not a rework.

[@highestqualitypigiron]

"""""improvements"""""

[@highestqualitypigiron]

@@qbmax32 it's "healthier" than having a character have no offense outside of headbutt and hoping your opponent parries your heavies on light timings.

[@notthalis9545]

qbmax32 Shinobi can still do this. It does less damage, but it is much more spammable and much harder to punish, both in stamina and out of stamina. If we’re going to talk about unhealthy game mechanics for the Art of Battle, why not talk about how Shinobi’s purpose is to deny any character the ability to play offensively, therefore cucking characters such as Centurion?

[@notthalis9545]

qbmax32 People take it so seriously because Ubisoft believes the solution for unlock tech is to just nerf the moves into the ground and buff an arbitrary part of the character that doesn’t really do much as is. All it does is highlight the hollow nature of characters’ kits, like Warlord and Shinobi.

[@connorpint2920]

Do nobushi max punish

[@emmettlee7286]

Warlords needs a rework... not this useless buff... im playing on PS4

[@valianthorizon6890]

Emmett Lee If they can just add more combos to his kit, I’ll be happy. Though that’s just me.

[@ungobungo7986]

@@valianthorizon6890 he needs an unblockable in his chain.?

[@Nahojism]

There is an ongoing thread since 8 months on the Ubi forum if you want to add your own ideas to how WL should be changed. forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/871-Suggestions-amp-Feedback

[@dwaynexo2569]

zerk max punish plz

[@MMadMask]

I knew I wasn't crazy! Why do all the people I know think that the charge is still good? WHY!?

[@Am4t3r4su]

Overall, he got more chains which is welcome, higher damage across the board and less reliance on his out of stamina game. They also made the full block better then before and less punishing on warlord to use. Just because you can't cheese people when out of stamina anymore, doesn't mean he is in a WORSE spot then before.

[@bolican9843]

@@Am4t3r4su he didn't say warlord was worse, he said his friends still think the crashing charge is good when in reality it isn't. Read the comment properly before you write a reply.

[@Am4t3r4su]

@@bolican9843 My main point still stands. At the end I added just because you can't cheese with the charge anymore, doesn't mean he's worse. His friends may be the ones who think so, but it was still said towards the ability he mentioned. Perhaps you should take your own advice? Hm?

[@bolican9843]

@@Am4t3r4su your point may stand, but i just thought the other stuff you said was irrelevant to the comment thread.

[@puretestosterone9614]

No CC?

[@airmandawn2638]

Only thing like that is his zone, which has a massive range.

[@puretestosterone9614]

UnfamedGunman what do you mean, they gave warlord a crushing counter property to all his lights.

[@airmandawn2638]

@@puretestosterone9614 I thought you meant Crowd Control.

[@notthalis9545]

Pure Testosterone but they’re still piss poor when compared to BP, who does more damage, is also unblockable, guarantees another 20 damage light via the guard switch bug being revived and has double the superior block frames of Warlord’s lights

[@puretestosterone9614]

not thalis the crushing counter is unblockable since the adjustment, I believe that it's viable since you can flow into your chains and gain the possibility of more damage. The amount of frames don't matter, if you can consistently hit them it doesn't really make a difference.

[@riczz4641]

They fucked up my boi

[@davidkam4398]

Sad thing is, they'll never look at him again, despite leaving him with some bugs and overall bad rework

[@cerdi_99]

this is not a rework -_-

[@punkrockviking]

While I have found Warlord to be more viable since the rework, I still think he needs a REAL rework.

[@jaydenschelmety7610]

He is more viable because they did the bear minimum to make it that way they didn’t fix any of his problems other than they charge

[@SilentLegion96]

punkrockviking Technically this was improvements, not a rework.

[@Scipion-kp4dh]

Im... still waiting for pk max punishes...

[@panosf5779]

Why? Just shield bash

[@UnPokemon]

@@panosf5779 Shield bash with Peacekeeper?

[@panosf5779]

@@UnPokemonyeah you are right , i thought i saw bp and rushed to unleash my rage about the shield bash :D didnt even noticed it was a pk comment

[@chrisreilly4006]

It pisses me off what they did to Warlord. He is now used even LESS then he was before. He’s not viable at all. His perks and large health pool is the only thing making him C to B tier.

[@airmandawn2638]

Bulk up with tough as nails (~175 health) can only get you so far :(

[@chrisreilly4006]

UnfamedGunman Well if you think about health pools with the rest of the cast that’s a shit load of health lol. He has some of the best perks in this game. That’s literally the only reason he does decent in dominion. And ledges of course. Pay close attention to a warlord next Dominion match you play. No ledge? I bet he has a low amount of kills

[@airmandawn2638]

@@chrisreilly4006 I'm a main and that is about my main source of kills. Sadly to say.

[@HighDarkDragon]

I think pretty much anybody is the exact opposite, me included. That unhealthy environment where you were forced to watch Warlord ballerinas kiting around you is finally over.

[@CaptainFlagella]

@@chrisreilly4006 Been maining warlord since the buffs, rarely ever get a ledge because the range of his charge was nerfed into the ground with the delayed start now. Most of my kills are thanks to the buffed damage hyperarmor heavies that the aggressive feinting assassin mains don't expect, actually pretty successful with him.

[@watermelons1285]

He needs better feats maybe like how in campaign the dude called wolves maybe make it a feat where you get a wolf companion for 20 seconds that deals 5-10 damage each hit he also needs a way to heal besides that shitty feat and objectives for example most hero either have a feat or a move

[@edoff17]

9999 views and 600 likes!

[@simo-rr5wj]

Centerion needs a buff

[@supbros21]

Can we not lament the loss of obnoxious out-of-lock charge mix-ups? "His out-of-stam game is absolutely garbage now" (00:50) because it was previously in a state of being overly oppressive and unintuitive to the rest of the game. Give me a break with the dramatics. Maybe I'm alone in this but I really don't miss having Warlords doing out-of-lock donuts around me as "optimal" play. He's now just in line with a good chunk of the cast who doesn't have stellar out-of-stamina pressure.

[@Bran732]

Everyone else can pretty much decimate your health with 90 dmg punishes. Meanwhile Warlords damage is still absolutely garbage.

[@Flowilty]

no hes trash now he has zero opener. They nerfed his only form of high level offense, buffed dodges and left headbutt alone. he just went from S tier in duels to F tier.

[@madaboutit2306]

@@Flowilty good, no hero should be in a high tier place because of dodgy mechanics the devs obviously want to remove, its ok to have bad heroes in a game that's just the nature of balance. It is not ok however, to have broken heroes, which warlord was.

[@HighDarkDragon]

No you're not alone my brother. Ballerina kiting Warlords were among the most fun-killing, annoying crap I've ever experienced in this game. ''Oh, I lost my abusable, unhealthy OOS cheese, better bitch about not having anything in my kit like I'm an Aramusha or Lawbringer main!''

[@lobselvith7828]

Why wouldn't a character categorized as a harraser not have a good out of stamina pressure game though? Meanwhile you got people like conq/BP/Warden who can still fuck you up if they get you out of stamina.

[@Budisgud69]

Man Warlord is beyond garbage at this point. RIP.

[@elijahmcgough6676]

DO RAIDER JESUS FUCK

[@kclap4132]

Awesome video my name's K CLAP