Army Unveils The NEW CHALLENGER 3 Main Battle Tank!

[@PhlyDaily]

LOWER PLATE BETTER NOT BE 76mm

[@titanic_monarch796]

Wouldn't be surprised

[@billlongjohnsonmillano6268]

Pretty junk tank compared to what's out right now, I don't think any of britain's adversary's are shaking in their boots over this one.

[@RandomSwede-1]

Designing real tanks for them to be good in WT

[@Vallahrian]

The hull won’t change much Just new turret

[@lucascampos5498]

Thus they remove it entirely.

[@bluemoon5719]

now i have to upgrade my tesco shopping trolley .

[@Fin2001]

Ah, a fellow of the Bosnian Ape Society perhaps?

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

Ah a fellow man of culture. Better add more guns if you live in Birmingham

[@MCTicTac]

I understood that reference :D

[@ΜικηςΖεζας]

asda is better!

[@zacharyrauzino146]

How am I going to protect my PC from this now???

[@Harrythepot]

60mph over rough ground. We need another race with a range rover sport.

[@scootergrant8683]

THE SPEEEEED!

[@jo2227]

@FoulPrinceRomero man of culture I see

[@frankmueller6522]

Go forward, Great-Britain! Long live the Nato! Long live freedom! Down with all dictatorships and terrorists all around the world! Best wishes from Germany!

[@dartmoordave]

I remember that well! JC had his work cut out that day. 60 mph would only be top road speed though.

[@Juan-xf5vm]

a lot of british tank are fast

[@jasonmoyer9492]

One thing about the Brits is they build excellent tanks. I was a Cavalry Scout during desert storm and went to iraq for the 2nd go. I heard and saw nothing but good things about the challenger tanks. The British also invented the chobham/dorchester armour we use on the our M1 and on some of our other vehicles. I served from 1990-2007 and I miss it.

[@frankthompson6503]

How did you find the armour on the hatch of your warrior. Did you Carry fuel attached to warrior rear. Did you have track protection against anti tank missles which could disable a track.

[@berniecoles2337]

Brothers in arms. 🇬🇧 🇺🇸.❤️

[@bastogne315]

150 tanks wouldn't defend a McDonald's down Oxford Street gainst Xtinction Rebellion. Fakin joke mate.

[@dardar877]

Who did you fight against in Iraq? Against Bedouins on camels? 😃

[@novorossiysk1000]

did you ask yourself why you go into iraq, because of WMD, they never exist. (Western agression). 1million deaths in iraq

[@thebathman0987]

"Firstly, it has fancy computers and Wi-Fi on board..." *sees interviewer yawn* "Secondly, it has a bigger gun"

[@poccer7722]

Just say it has a tea kettle built in and everyone will be satisfied

[@OpenGL4ever]

In my opinion the 120 mm gun doesn't have enough reserves anymore. They should have switched to a 130 mm gun from the beginning leaving more options available. Also an autoloader is a must today, to reduce crew size to 3 or less. I wonder if the Challenger 3 does have hard kill systems to protect itself.

[@poccer7722]

@@OpenGL4ever What? I thought reduced crewsize is one of the downsides of an autoloader? Also, I think they went with the L55A1 because thats one of the best cannons which are also widely available, I am not sure where the 130 sits between concept and finished product.

[@OpenGL4ever]

@@poccer7722 It depends on your goals. If your goal is to have a small economic army with less soldiers that costs less, a 3 tank crew is better than a 4 tank crew. After a battle it's easier to replace an autoloader than an experienced crew member. And if the tank gets hit, only 3 might die, not 4. For a modern army in our today's society it's more important to have no or only few casualtys of soldiers and also the maintenance cost plays a bigger role. A smaller army is cheaper, than a army with > 1 mio soldiers. Reducing crew-sizes can be seen everywhere. Not only in main battle tanks, but also on ships and aircrafts. The advantage of having 4 crew members in a tank is to balance the work that has do be done on a tank. The larger 130 mm has about 50 % more firepower and energy than the 120mm.

[@poccer7722]

@@OpenGL4ever I pretty much agree. The argument for 4 crew members is to have an additional human operator, who can take a wide variety of tasks instead of just loading like an autoloader. One thing I have never seen anyone talk about though is this: when the tank is going over rough terrain, is it even possible to load the gun as a human loader? Isn't it incredibly dangerous to handle 120mm shells while the tank is rocking up and down? A big plus for autoloaders imo. And yes, the 130mm is unquestionably better than the 120, but I think the major roadblock is that the 120 is well established economically, you can easily restock ammo and spare parts, while there isn't even a basic assembly line for the 130, and I guess GB wants the CL3 to enter service as fast as possible, ergo before the 130 gets the green light. Also cost.

[@kronos4136]

We had 900 tanks once, yes, we did I remember they were all at the same crossroads in the German countryside during Lionheart 1984

[@johnallen7807]

Yep, I was in a hide counting them! lol

[@marcuscaines9168]

@@WeLoud no point in a large military the uk is a tiny island, navy and airforce is more important.

[@napalmhotdog4365]

@@marcuscaines9168 Yh, the other thing is, if their comes a time where we need them. We’ll just build more

[@marcuscaines9168]

@@napalmhotdog4365 yeah it is not rocket science really.

[@kenjifox4264]

@@marcuscaines9168 as a member of NATO, the UK has the duty to send its forces to the East in case of war with Russia. That's when tanks will be important.

[@ReekieReels]

"They decided to buy British". A few seconds later: "Challenger 3 will be produced by Rheinmetall" 😂

[@ReekieReels]

@@UserPendingDeletion I know, I just having a laugh 😁

[@jamesfinlay8180]

@@UserPendingDeletion Rubbish, Rheinmetall is not owned in any way by BAE systems. Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land is a joint venture company between Rhienmetall (55%) and BAE systems (45%). By your logic, Jaguar and Land Rover owned by Tata are Indian??? I don't think so.

[@maxt9657]

@@UserPendingDeletion I don’t think so. Do you have a reference? Rheinmetall and BAE systems created a joint venture especially for this and the boxer so that British industry is involved (Rheinmetall BAE Land Systems).

[@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167]

Doesn’t really matter who is building them, so long as it’s a NATO member company. The point is they are being built in UK with the added bonus of £20 million being spent on upgrading manufacturing capability in the UK as well.

[@PIG8STUIPID]

Was looking for this. Not disappointed.

[@markwelsh3957]

It's great to see the latest version of this tank class. My grandfather had something to do with the design of the Challenger Mk 1 so it's brilliant to know his technical skill is still around and an important part of the British Army even though he now sadly isn't. He would have been proud and I have several happy teenage memories of visits to Bordon Camp with him. Best of luck Challenger Mk 3!

[@oliverrugg3732]

Imagine one of these coming at you at 60mph whist you're sitting in a Tesco's car park huffing gas.

[@hummerskickass]

I wonder if that’s actually what is capable of going regularly. Or if that’s just the technical capability but will have a governor on the engine much like the Abrams.

[@meme4one]

@@hummerskickass that will be a road speed which is very hard to maintain and will use a hell of a lot of fuel, I doubt it will ever be used apart from in willy waving contests.

[@somethingelse516]

It’d be amazing if it could reach that speed, challenger was always touted as the most heavily armoured MBT so having the best gun in NATO plus being one of the fastest would mean the iron triangle will be well and truly balanced.

[@Punny1234]

Lol.😂

[@hadramcoltzau6135]

Imagine a world with no war!

[@jackhall2223]

With a BV onboard that can make enough tea for the entire crew to drink with Sports Direct mugs too

[@lonewolf7449]

When I clicked on this video I wanted to comment on its tea making capacity.... But being a British tank I knew I was already late.

[@klord3677]

sports direct mugs 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@williamknifeman7330]

Bigger is better

[@stephenmcqueen4029]

The really big sports direct mugs?

[@dannybfbc2]

Fitted gyro stabiliser mug holders

[@davidjones6076]

It's important to keep the ability to design & build tanks. This great news.

[@danielmarshall4587]

For sure.... people are getting up set that "only"148 are being bought. I feel these people don't know how much these tanks willl cost. It's good that they're built here in the UK.

[@robotshaveiteasy9459]

@@danielmarshall4587 they do know, it's about £800m 😂

[@hummerskickass]

@@danielmarshall4587 I worry about such small numbers resulting in very low readiness rates. You have to consider how many will be undergoing maintenance, overhaul and such. Because you’re never going to have all 148 of these available at any given time. The UK is banking on never having to fight a major protracted war again. I suspect 148 will double as the years go by and Britain reevaluates its plan.

[@kuhaku9587]

They clearly didn't remember their gaping weak spot with the driver view port and their barely armored lower plate... They should have redesigned the front.

[@lsq7833]

You can thank the Germans at Rheinmetal lmao.

[@thelonewolf9866]

I care not how fancy the new turret is! What is the tea boiling capabilities like? We must know!

[@RobertFletcherOBE]

I hear they have exclusive contracts with yorkshire tea, and mcvities to provide 'ordinance' for this new battle system. No doubt the new data sharing capability will aid in identifying friendly targets (and how much milk they like) ;)

[@robbieshand6139]

It's new automated detection system will be able to identify and target coffee drinkers up to 5 miles away!

[@RobertFletcherOBE]

@@robbieshand6139 ah yes, I hear it can detect bean juice in the air at 1 part per million.

[@albuxtoni]

This is important

[@elias_xp95]

To answer your question: Yes, it has a kettle.

[@trje246]

"full operating capability by 2030" "aww, but i'm angry *_NOW!_* "

[@buchan448]

lol the Simpsons ?? :D

[@trje246]

​@@buchan448 "doh!" You got it 😉 lol ps. wow, cheers for likes folks, glad could brighten up someones day, even just for a moment. peace

[@buchan448]

@@trje246 woop woop :D

[@EvenWaysMusic]

For years I’ve prayed we have a Challenger 3, and here we are. This is such a proud moment!!

[@Dhdhdbdbdbdbbd]

Same

[@youbdu2981]

In 2027

[@spacefx1340]

Trust the Germans to save the chally, chally 2 hull German turret , its chally 2.5 imo...

[@gravemind3590]

And now Scotland is Mc leaving ayyyyy Ronald McDonald is coming home.

[@residentelect]

@@gravemind3590 Hope you've got plenty of "Mc'Bucks" to lend him, because he's gonna be absolutely skint when he does leave 😉

[@workthroway283]

Dodge is really changing the game. I thought my Challenger was outdated when back up cameras were a thing.

[@stephencrompton4352]

Took me a moment to get your reference there lol...

[@Angry_Squirrel555]

Nice!

[@Mike-gt1cs]

Are these tanks built in Mexico?

[@ramal5708]

Next tank is gonna be Challanger 4 Hellcat muscle tank

[@oOZingS]

the challenger 2 holds a few extreme records, the most kills in a minute, it has been deployed in a full scale tank engagements during Iraqi freedom JUST as intense as the Abrahams - which suffered hundreds of losses - and not a singe c2 has been destroyed by enemy fire. its battle proven and its record is flawless. Just don't say this tank is outdated until you can compare it with any other tank currently in service with a battle record coming even close to it. most of the tanks in peoples 'top 10 list haven't fire a bullet in anger. and everybody's imaginary number one - leopard was embarrassed in Syria, EMBARRASSED with small arms fire.

[@DrumsTheWord]

Britain may not produce much anymore when it comes to basic goods, but we sure know how to produce high tech still! Very proud.

[@syednasranshamilsyeddin1966]

Produce like tiger tank in ww2. Russian produce more T 34 during ww2.

[@vloplob]

Did you miss the part where they said it´s developed and produced by Rheinmetall, a German company?

[@DrumsTheWord]

@@vloplob I guess I did. I’m such a hypocrite. Also, you liked your own comment seconds after posting.

[@sebastiangruenfeld141]

@@vloplob While it is being produced by a German company, Germans themselves do not have the same lethality as the British military has. Just a couple of months ago 150 Royal Marines beat over a thousand American marines in exercises.

[@vloplob]

@@sebastiangruenfeld141 How is that relevant for this discussion and why do you think germans are "less leathal" than brits? You base that on an exercise they did with the US? What kind of an argumentative structure is that?

[@phantomaviator1318]

"We're ditching our tanks..." _Russia and China take interest_ *"Sike."*

[@andrejcortez177]

Lmao

[@senor6370]

148 tanks because it's not for Russia or China. But for their little side projects where they attack a developing country, kill a few hundreds thousands and then they need a different kind of tool to build the "peace".

[@ethanmcfarland8240]

@@senor6370 They’ll make more

[@senor6370]

@@ethanmcfarland8240 So more side projects?

[@shrugchan5914]

Lmao

[@daleridgway4194]

Wow . Still build a great tank in this country . And great news for Telford

[@helipeek2736]

As long as it doesn’t run out of fuel trying to negotiate the labyrinthine ring road on the way to the M54!

[@Redgolf2]

The Leopard would have been better, but at least it’s a German company building it. Britain is always one step behind everyone else, by 2027 the next generation tanks will be used by everyone else! 😏

[@garthtomlinson2570]

@@Redgolf2 yeah next joke

[@rayhan_2k841]

@@Redgolf2check out the full upgrade list on their twitter. CR3 is just objectively going to be a MUCH faster and better protected tank with superior optics and the same fire power. leopard 2s spotlight as NATOs best tank is coming to an end.

[@jurgenmuller143]

@@rayhan_2k841 dream on with your upgraded challenger 2. Poor island solution not a new development like the Germans and French are heading for. Why is nobody else buying your superior tank? Why do you need german technology to upgrade it? I think you must be a Brexit guy riding unicorns.

[@littlebull8881]

But is there a kettle inside, if not we'll I'm not smiling

[@teancrumpets5685]

of course there will be!

[@littlebull8881]

Am in then

[@mrjamescdean]

Its british. Ofcorse it will have a kettle inside. Its in the queens regs

[@biddyboy1570]

Ist part German so you'll have to make do with a sausage boiler. Or in German a Wurstbrennerkrautkochener.

[@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ]

There won't be a kettle. There will be a boiling vessel (BV) which is a much bigger kettle thats also warms up your lunch hahaha

[@cyclist68]

"Why is 148 tanks enough" ...... Because its all we can afford

[@Cheedillow]

evidence that military spending will works backwards from a budget rather than an actual need.... a subsidy for domestic arms manufacturers

[@ShahidKhan-ke8fe]

realistically though, with more tanks, which country in the world would we use them against? I didn't see many tanks being used in Afghanistan.

[@pak3ton]

@@Cheedillow and they arent poor citizens. I mean the owners of those manufacturers.

[@MattDW45]

@@Cheedillow I’m pretty sure the manufacturers of this new kit aren’t domestic. Isn’t it all being made on the continent?

[@Cheedillow]

@@MattDW45 this contract was won by BAE Systems

[@overlordgaming752]

I love the difference between UK military comment sections and US. I study all nations military’s because I’m a nerd, And I’d like to thank you guys for being the kindest of the bunch

[@scootergrant8683]

Well I guess having had a reducing military that is no longer as dominant as it once was we military buffs do love it when we see an upgrade and improvement. Shows we are at least staying current.

[@MrEsphoenix]

@@scootergrant8683 If they play it right it could be a good move. America will always provide the numbers and bulk of any major conflict. That means our stuff has 2 primary uses. One is warding off smaller nations and looking after our own interests, eg Falkland's. You don't need massive numbers for that, if you have the training and tech, as we've proven many times in the past. 2 is supporting NATO in the possibility of a large scale conflict. We'll never match America on numbers. Too expensive and requires too much personnel. But being able to provide a well trained and equipped punch where needed, could be invaluable. Nato's strength lies in quality and variety rather than numbers.

[@chrome505]

@Stink Meaner You know this how exactly?

[@themc.kennyshow6585]

The American comment sections tend to be more nationalistic in my opinion

[@highadmiraljt5853]

@@themc.kennyshow6585 Americans seem much more patriotic compared to other people, in my opinion.

[@ozzy7763]

Congratulations to the British Army from a retired US Army Para. She’s a beautiful looking tank !

[@themc.kennyshow6585]

I'm so happy. As there have been talks, and I think decisions, to remove all British tank regiments

[@noone3272]

*he

[@iteor7320]

Whether we have enough troops to man the amazing things is another matter though...

[@chappy2121]

@@iteor7320 we always had a relatively small professional army.

[@DemonNitrix]

Why do people always gotta use she*...

[@themc.kennyshow6585]

Imagine having a tank that can go as fast as your average car on the highway while being able to crush most things in its path. A true juggernaut

[@RcNerd]

While blowing those yellow speed cameras up

[@GewelReal]

Having to stop every 50 miles to refuel

[@poccer7722]

@@GewelReal You're no fun :(

[@themc.kennyshow6585]

@@RcNerd damn hate those things

[@billb4089]

@@RcNerd and the sneaker bastards in their vans👍

[@integ3r]

"Digital tank." You wouldn't download a Challenger 3.

[@PatriceBoivin]

Freezes, Windows Update is downloading... or anti-virus software is scanning your files...

[@pingu5543]

Challenger 3.exe has stopped working.

[@XantheFIN]

Meanwhile in War Thunder forums after argument...

[@Koyomix86]

This looks great, glad to see that the challenger 2 is getting a good upgrade, and it’s good that they are taking crew feedback to make this the best tank it can be.

[@gabrielmartineau7114]

Damn, now War Thunder’s forum is gonna be filled with “Challenger 3 when???”

[@Olly.]

THIS ^^^ lmao i can see this being added before its even in service

[@ThatHonestGuy]

Plz Gaijibbbbllllz plz gib Challenger 3!!!

[@justplayinggames990]

Dammit, the challanger 2 alone is capable of giving me a lot of troubles from the front now i have to face the challanger 3?

[@lebronejames8816]

cringe

[@Tracer2619]

They already said no to it being added.

[@abdullahbrum]

Great news for British manufacturing as well 👏

[@SavageBruce]

Still German made...Rhinemetall is a German company based in Düsseldorf.

[@ashleygoggs5679]

@@SavageBruce Its not German made is British made with German plans. It said in the video all tanks will be made in the UK.

[@joef-s8048]

@@SavageBruce rhinemetall and BAE. so joint

[@hummerskickass]

@@SavageBruce yes but I believe they have manufacturing ability in the UK. That or the guns will be built under license.

[@madness173]

@@ashleygoggs5679 German plans, German profits! What they say and what they do aren't always the same. This is just a publicity stunt and planting Union Flags on it doesn't make it more British.

[@Bugeye0704]

“New cooling system for the engine” BUT WHAT WILL HEAT THE TEA?

[@fishyc150]

A standard BV I'm guessing.

[@stevenwarne69]

the pure will power to drink tea will itself heat the tea

[@mrmaker9355]

Never underestimate the power of tea! The British helped win a world war on it.....it could have all ended differently if Hitler had discovered tea!

[@camieyt6260]

Hahaha typical American arnt you?

[@fishyc150]

@@camieyt6260 who you talking to and why???

[@noisyboy87]

Wow. I’ve been searching the web for concepts of the Challenger 3 for years and now it’s finally here. Great work MOD 👍

[@Hawthorn-nz]

Me too, not with any great effort though. This came as a pleasant surprise. I wonder who will buy the Mk 2's?

[@noisyboy87]

@@Hawthorn-nz Yes, i am glad i am not the only one who geeks out on this kinda stuff :)

[@anthonywilson4873]

@@Hawthorn-nz Challenger three is being built in the UK maybe the Challenger 2 could be reworked into three’s with a full pull down and rebuild?

[@anthonywilson4873]

@@komradearti9935 Yea they said that in the Gulf war. Smashed the elite of the Iraqi tanks to pieces. Actions speak louder than words.

[@Autiematt]

Hope they can still carry a kettle and a brew

[@Tighman77]

"You can role up an enemy armoured brigade in a short period of time" you dont think the enemy could do the same? 148 is only enough for peacetime

[@fattyMcGee97]

148 is just this first batch. Every chance we will build more in the future. Chances are we won’t be fighting alone either, in fact that chance is ridiculously low given our European and American allies. I feel we should be focusing more on naval and air strength than that of the men on the ground. Fleet projection is key to maintaining peace. After all, these tanks are useless if they can’t be deployed over seas.

[@paoloviti6156]

Quoting Stalin he once said that quantity has a quality of it's own and he was perfectly right even if he lost so many soldiers to fight the Germans. The point is what are you going to do with only 148 tanks considered how incredibly expensive these tanks cost per unit and I'm curious how many days it takes to produce one? I'm very perplexed 😖 😖...

[@propagandix]

@@fattyMcGee97 we wont build more because these are just conversions of existing tanks. It's going to take 10 years to convert 148 tanks, hardly cause for a party.

[@Cheezymuffin.]

Tanks, especially modern ones, are very expensive and hard to produce. So in peace time or against 3th world countries, you don't need a full armor division. Because there isn't really a well equiped, well trained and battle hardened enemy right now, that will fight ferociously. Ofcourse, when war does come around the corner, every modern country has plans for a war economy, where massive amounts of militairy equipment can be produced in a short amount of time. But to be really honest, I absolutely dread the idea of a total war in this day and age... and so does every country. Only a country with a giant militairy, a economic and social instability, and that is in striking distance of weaker, but by NATO guaranteed neighbours posts any treath, as they might take the risk of all out war to save their nation by robbing their neighbours... But I mean, what is the chance of such a country existing in our time right?... oh wait... we're boned

[@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ]

You're stuck in the 1950's Numbers don't work the same way anymore

[@MikeT-TheRetiredColonel]

Nice release of info on my birthday, even though I'm from across the pond, I am a 33+ year US Army veteran and proudly support our allies wherever they may be. Cheers!

[@leaturk11]

thanks

[@tomtdh4903]

We will always be friends, Americans are great! Unfortunately I’m sure we will fight together in the future, just hopes it not a major conflict. Iran can never get nukes, I'm sure we both agree on that.

[@sunnyjim1355]

Never, ever doxx yourself

[@mdsf01]

Happy Birthday!

[@goodoldblighty7481]

God bless America & uk ,brothers in arms always ☮️💪🏾

[@duncanbull959]

Good news of updating the tank fleet . The only criticism is I would like to see a far bigger order . Double that number .

[@Daz555Daz]

Who would drive them and maintain them? And where does the money come from? New round of austerity incoming from the Tories.

[@S0LP]

@@Daz555Daz to be fair, they said they are considering to increase the numbers after Ukraine.

[@sniper60605]

That’s pretty cool! Glad to hear the British are going up to grade their tank and make it in the UK.

[@fozzylozzy1131]

@Zorro Laplaya they didn't really need to update the challenger 2, it did what it was supposed to very well.

[@MinhNguyen-gh8zp]

Germany *

[@katze4912]

@@MinhNguyen-gh8zp its being made in the UK tho

[@callumwilliams1449]

@@MinhNguyen-gh8zp For a start, Rheinmetall literally just bought out an existing subsidiary of the British BAE systems. Rheinmetalls submission had a 130mm gun. The accepted Challenger III is an amalgamation of the British BAE and German Rheinmetall submissions.

[@warrenventer]

German tank, like all the British brands that are now a sucess by Indians, and German car manufacturers

[@sentinelxcix2526]

I love the use of a Challenger 2 digital model to tell us about the features of the Challenger 3

[@jungletroll3844]

yea i thought that was ironic lol

[@crimsoncloud6352]

they can't show everything its new tech

[@sentinelxcix2526]

@@crimsoncloud6352 Using the right 3D model tells us nothing that the other clips and photos haven't already told us, the interviews are in front of the tank itself for god's sake

[@jungletroll3844]

@@sentinelxcix2526 i was about to comment that

[@zipcode786]

So basically the Challenger can now do what the American Apache could do 28 years ago sharing radar data or some chit. Also has some fancy digi ammo like those naval ship guns do.

[@kolinmartz]

“As we learned in Iraq....” Ahhh. Always fighting the last war.

[@alexanderfoster3628]

That's the last time we used tanks though. We didn't operate them in Afghanistan.

[@mranonymous6156]

MAD pretty much makes mass tank battles redundant nowadays.

[@alexanderfoster3628]

@@mranonymous6156 Unless you are invading somewhere like Iraq or you have two peers without nuclear weapons. Attack helicopters and drones make tanks more unlikely not nukes.

[@kolinmartz]

@@alexanderfoster3628 I would hardly consider Iraq to be anywhere close to a near peer tho.

[@alexanderfoster3628]

@@kolinmartz I never said it was. I meant between two similar countries i.e two warring neighbors somewhere in Africa or the middle east

[@ramal5708]

I am just curious if their main gun is so stable, so it could hold cup of tea upright just like the Leopard 2 video with a beer on the turret

[@tomsoki5738]

It’s the same gun so yeah

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

Of course, all western stabilizers can

[@ItszaGemar]

Matsimus will be happy...

[@AllThingsCubey]

For what it's worth they may as well have bought Leopard 2A7, and called it "Challenger 3." Almost everything is changed to German, or in some cases French, designed components. Only the hull, suspension and engine can still claim to be British on this vehicle. He will be happy, but all it shows is how obsolete his baby was before this upgrade.

[@callumwilliams1449]

@@AllThingsCubey So like 70% of the tank is British, the remaining 30% was a co-development between British BAE and Rheinmetall, admittedly largely Rheinmetall. Instead of pride a German company makes good tanks and helped with the upgrade to Chally 3, Germans seem to enjoy belittling countries buying from it. Ironic since their tank development is quite literally reliant on overseas sales and the Germans themselves reliant on American equipment.

[@AllThingsCubey]

@@callumwilliams1449 Erm, no, it's more like 70% non British components and systems at this point.

[@callumwilliams1449]

@@AllThingsCubeyErm, how do you even know when the specific details haven't even been released? Unless you've somehow been briefed as of yet classified/withheld information? By the way, as you mentioned, the Hull, suspension and engine are British. That's 70% of the tank buddy.

[@AllThingsCubey]

@@callumwilliams1449 I keep myself well informed. A lot of it's not classified, but just internal. You merely need to speak to the right people.

[@arthurbousquet6838]

Designers : How many optics do you need ? Challenger 3 : *Y E S*

[@rockinwackyidk]

400 would be good.

[@matthewmclean9012]

So would 4000..

[@Chronicallyonline97511]

Only getting less than 200

[@lv3184]

Challenger 2 production ended almost 20 years ago and this program will only upgrade existing hulls and not produce new ones. I doubt that there even are 400 Challenger 2s in existance in Britain in total, so producing 400 Challenger 3s is physically impossible.

[@user-kvartz-a8]

Absolutely beautiful. But then again, I would expect nothing less from the pioneers of the tank.

[@Tapp.dergon]

Challey 3 looks sexy, with love from the U.S!

[@stonemarten1400]

Wish we had some of your sexy U.S tankbusters!

[@blooiefps9304]

abrams and leo is way sexier IMO... but they don't have tea kettles XD

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

I love how everyone here is a tank engineer, it's suprising every single one of them ended up here.

[@keithpringle3940]

I'm not!

[@tigerbesteverything]

you don't need to be to see that this tank is not future proof. It's what should have been the challenger II from the get go. It's an update of a really outdated design. It certainly will be already outdated by 2030.

[@keithpringle3940]

@@tigerbesteverything I agree! I said that on a different thread on this vid. I'm no tank engineer, is Mr Davis?

[@stonemarten1400]

I've watched quite a few "Tank Chats"

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

@@tigerbesteverything The UK knows that. It might be an intermediate tank, militaries have knowledge about upcoming technologies that we civilians do not have. We do not know the strategy of countries and history showed us that countries sometimes pass on a generation of vehicules.

[@averagefilipino315]

New tank sounds cool.

[@JoeFarrell-e3f]

Ukraine is not iraq, the challenger is to heavy and imobile for the muddy terrain What was needed was a medium size fast tank with a gas turbine, with minimal non essential complexity that could be produced in large numbers. There is a reason the t72 and t80 are the worlds biggest selling tanks while nobody bought challenger.

[@gregoryspatisserie9858]

I do like how the news channel is obviously an extension of the U.K armed forces but aren’t too scared to ask more controversial questions to politicians and question brass. Keep up the good work!

[@scootergrant8683]

But when they ask that sort of question they aren't overly invasive about it as well. Obviously they have to be somewhat to voice the potential concern but they don't overdo it. A very respectable quality.

[@frankmueller6522]

Go forward, Great-Britain! Long live the Nato! Long live freedom! Down with all dictatorships and terrorists all around the world! Best wishes from Germany!

[@clerivaldojunior4465]

Sweet, can't wait to see that in war thunder

[@AnglishWyvern]

Same

[@29JTAC]

That with the Ajax

[@Tyroniusmaximus92]

The comment I was waiting for 😂

[@vincentas1]

t14 and t15 (t14 apc) are not in wt and you think this will?

[@sharkk127]

Depends if the game survives for another 20+ years

[@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ]

60MPH??? A CHALLENGER??? PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A DREAM

[@1IbramGaunt]

1,600 brake horsepower baby 😁

[@iamjames8200]

@@komradearti9935 official specs state 60mph.

[@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ]

@@komradearti9935 "renamed challenger 2" just that alone demonstrates your lack of intelligence and understanding. You don't know it's modifications, so why act like you do? Most definitely is 60 MPH

[@iamjames8200]

@@komradearti9935 the challenger 2 LEP was a completely different upgrade program you muppet.

[@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ]

@@komradearti9935 Or more because the whole situation changed and as opposed to an upgrade on the Challenger 2 platform it's a brand new one BASED OFF THE HULL of the challenger 2. You were following a completely different program to what has actually ended up happening. You're embarrassing yourself

[@specialandroid1603]

Tanks are history - they are super vulnerable on the battle field

[@savagecanadian9659]

They said the same thing in Afghanistan but yet they made a comeback. Legit the Canadian military went into Afghanistan thinking it didn't need tanks and we wound up buying tanks for Afghanistan same with the yanks they originally deployed with just the Bradley and what not but wound up bringing the tanks in. What seems likely on paper is not always the same as actual combat if that was the case like you claim then more of Hitler wunderwaffen projects would have been resounding successes. Cause alot of those wunderwaffen projects on paper where great ideas but on the battlefield most turned out to be terrible. They also said the same things about guns on jets in Vietnam but look we got those outdated guns on jets today.

[@PB-hr3hy]

I know I might be setting my standard low but seriously 148 is better than none. I've heard real chatter about seriously considering scrapping the tanks completely

[@P4GES1]

you are correct about scrapping our tanks so yeah this is really good news, seems our forces our moving from being a hammer to a scalpel 🔥🧨💣💪

[@G17JBC]

I mean we've probably seen what happened in Armenia And Azerbaijan with the drones just easy picking off tanks so it think it's a good number without spending loads and loads of money

[@PB-hr3hy]

@@G17JBC oh yes I agree drone is the future and the UK is investing in drones as well. But at the same time I think there is a time and place for tanks to be used. Better to have it on hand than not have it when we need it.

[@JohnPaul-be5jr]

I thought they were scrapping the tank as well

[@watze8245]

Indeed luckily the UK didn't make the mistake of selling all it's tanks and then when the time comes realising you don't have the right gear for the fight. Unlike my country (NL) which sold all of its tanks and then when Crimea got annexed realize the we lost to a lot power for when things truly go south.

[@homefront1999]

I'm no mechanic. But man, all this tech stuff seems like it's gonna be a big pain to get right and functional for the first years of the tank.

[@cyanoticspore6785]

That's why it's won't be here till 2027

[@kousand9917]

@@cyanoticspore6785 yeah even then there will probably soon be a upgrade for troops cause of some gripes

[@julianshepherd2038]

Drone fodder. As relevant as a battleship

[@cyanoticspore6785]

@Chop Wood I'd love to see you come up with a simple modern MBT design

[@cyanoticspore6785]

@@julianshepherd2038 ah youre one of those people who just found out about drones and thought hey they must be invincible! Well guess what? They aren't. All it takes is a fighter on patrol or even a CIWS if it's low enough and you can destroy one. And it would be stupid to use a drone against a carrier fleet. It would be shot down before it's in range of the carrier.

[@kevinshort3943]

Challenger 3, is a Challenger 2 with a new turret, gun, and some hull/drivetrain upgrades. I believe they are remanufacturing Challenger 2s to make it.

[@HJDore]

Not correct, 148 gun tanks of the in service fleet will be selected and have the original VDS turrets removed, the turret ring bored out and the powerpack and hydrogas swapped out for the newer variants. There is no capability to manufacture challenger hulls (or any other tank hulls) in the uk.

[@akatheboy1071]

@@HJDore like he said remanufacture challenger 2 that means converting and restoring manufacture means make from new

[@Huwbacca]

2:28 - "There's an open architecture on the platform that allows us to integrate with other tanks"

[@MW-dd8vk]

New Tank sounds very useful considering the threats we face are so great. Too Bad that there isn’t enough troop numbers or tanks to go around especially considering the manpower China, Russia, Iran and North Korea have at their disposal.

[@Mk1Male]

There will never be a time that we challenge those countries so your point is moot.

[@stephencrompton4352]

@@Mk1Male There could be.

[@ThePalaeontologist]

@@Mk1Male No it isn't. You don't know that.

[@ca9968]

@@Mk1Male yeah, we have already surrendered to them...

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

@@ThePalaeontologist Do you reckon there will be a naval war with China and land war with Russia

[@edwardwilcox6606]

Looks to be a decent upgrade which our boys deserve. Nice to see British jobs are safe-guarded too.

[@termitreter6545]

Tbh tho, do 650 jobs really matter? Its important to keep some tank production/logistics capabilities, which UK has partially lost (hence the need for Rheinmetall to step in), but the amount of jobs seems pretty low. Same how Australia bragged that they got 900m of home investment in an >90 billion dollar program.

[@termitreter6545]

@Julz De Im sure theres lots of money flowing in the background...

[@valkry007]

The Russian's are in complete agreement that the British only need a few tanks.

[@timokaaarp7779]

Russia can be defeated by leaving your drinks cabinet open.

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

The Russians* (plural, no apostrophe)

[@johnmitchell2269]

Don't have enough man power to man more than a few tanks.

[@benivinson3693]

@Gene Hunt maintaining British international position and super power status which I as a patriotic English gentleman think is a good thing.

[@connorhanby7108]

@@benivinson3693 Britain isn't a superpower anymore mate

[@stergiosk6265]

It's nice to hear at the beginning of the video that the defence PM actually knows what is he talking about. This is quiet unusuall. Nice piece of equipment greetings from Greece.

[@dynamo1796]

The UK Minister for Defence has, historically, always been a ex-military officer. Thats pretty common around the world actually.

[@PMMM9]

9 years from now, let’s revisit this “new” tank.

[@officerbucket7986]

What's the point of designing and building a new tank if it wont be ready for a decade???😅

[@shaywoodside581]

@@officerbucket7986 most modern procurements take that long. Especially when it's a brand new tank

[@officerbucket7986]

@@shaywoodside581 but by the time its adopted it will likely then be obsolete? So what's the point?

[@inspirednamehere6166]

@@somedrytoast2307 not obsolete if the competition updates just as slowly

[@shaywoodside581]

@@officerbucket7986 I mean the Abrams was designed in the 1970s and rolled out in the early 80s I believe. I'm sure like most things now days is gonna be modular and easily upgradeable if needed. But it will be far from obsolete by 2030. No ones upgrading stuff fast at the moment because they aren't fighting a strong military power. No one's gonna make a multi billion pound development to blow a bigger hole in a mud hut.

[@shreyaschatterjee702]

FINALLLYYYYYYY!!!!!!!! Long have I waited for this day.

[@antonybonner592]

148 tanks is a good start these will be working in conjunction with the new ajax vehicles with a portion of those fitted with the brimstone missiles and the boxer vehicles fitted with anti tank weapons and turrets ... the ajax vehicles are awesome

[@flamingsmore5904]

Plus if we ever need them, they will probably keep the challenger 2’s in storage for use.

[@scootergrant8683]

@@flamingsmore5904 When you wrote storage I immediately pictured all of the vehicles from the Bovington Tank Museum being ordered to battle. That'd be a sight.

[@flamingsmore5904]

😂😂

[@MrEsphoenix]

@@scootergrant8683 It'll be a shock when t-34's start rolling up on the Russians.

[@every1665]

I'm not even British but I'm glad to see the poms are still building their own military equipment. Many workers learn skills from this kind of work and often go into spin-off projects unrelated to military areas to build new businesses. I wish Australia would do this more.

[@vincentmckenna1755]

So we moke them and fight other people's war with them

[@EnglishScripter]

Yeah we making your new ships.

[@tunichtgut02]

That upgrade was invented and is built by rheinmetall

[@richiec604]

shame only 148 but still a good job

[@Leo-pz5ge]

Those numbers will eventually go down.

[@CabbageConquerer]

@Leslie Dodds a lot lost as well

[@jordanleigh6481]

@Leslie Dodds it's a very different world then from world war 2. The days of hughe armoured combat are done. There is no need anymore when it can be done by air which will intern cost less lives for the said nation

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

@Leslie Dodds But aren't a lot of Russias tanks still cold war era

[@jamiegray6931]

@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- yeah the vast majority are cold war era, very few are more recent

[@matodiniv]

I am in love with the classic cold war like aesthetic despite being late tech

[@MrEsphoenix]

There's something aesthetically pleasing about the look of the Challenger. Although the Challenger 1 takes the real trophy for looks. the 2 is a bit boxy (for practical reasons I realise lol)

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

It looks a bit like the Vickers Mk 7 with the wide gun mantlet.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

@@MrEsphoenix Challenger 1 wins all the prizes for the best-looking tank. But Challenger 2 is near the bottom of my list of best-looking tanks.

[@corvanphoenix]

Looks like a beauty! I'm sure glad they're not giving up tanks just yet, they only invented them just over 100 years ago!

[@urbanjungle9600]

Full operations 2030 - that’s a lot of Whitehall spending review cycles to get through.

[@lunokhod3937]

Glad we're upgrading our tanks. Can't wait for Tempest, that'll be a sight to see.

[@nonyabuziness1582]

You will be blind before you ever see that imaginary jet.

[@taiga_pz6566]

Challenger tank finally joins the smoothbore gang, try to keep up Arjun

[@tomk3732]

WOT Arjun best tank in the world - all look at its rifle gun in fear. MK 2 can even fire AT ammo!

[@cybersentient4758]

Lol too busy trying to keep the country afloat let alone upgrading their inventory

[@matthewserrano4048]

@@tomk3732 yu serious?

[@SmallDoki]

@@matthewserrano4048 sarcasm my guy

[@matthew4107]

challenger has had a smoothbore for years

[@orbitspec9199]

Amazing news. I trained in the challenger 2 at bovi. Would love the have a go of the new one

[@kiketve2]

the Abraham uses Depleted Uranium and ultra dense tungsten among other things in their armor, that's why they are so heavy

[@tomendruweit9386]

"They decided to buy British" Me: Ah yes, the famous British river Rhine

[@mattvewfindlay2228]

Wtf are you on about?

[@ЕгорСкибицкий]

@@mattvewfindlay2228 manufacturers name is Rheinmetall which is actually a German company

[@Murphy-mw6be]

@@ЕгорСкибицкий it’s actually Rheinmetall-BAE a joint venture. Also the jobs created by this will all be in English factory’s in England as opposed to buying leapords which would have been a fully German venture.

[@Murphy-mw6be]

It’s rheinmetall-bae, a joint venture

[@davidty2006]

Think Rhienmetall is helping out with the gun mainly? Makes sence since it's a 120mm like the current Rhienmetall 120mm smooth bore

[@793Force]

Greetings and respect from germany. May it challenge it's enemies in the most fierce way possible.

[@mohamedelhaddade6371]

how does it feel being cucked by America

[@charlesleeson7241]

@@mohamedelhaddade6371 when? If you’re talking world war 2, you aren’t even the ones who took Berlin

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

Germany* (all countries are capitalized in English) ... its* enemies (it's = it is) ...

[@davidbooth46ify]

@@einundsiebenziger5488 This is the Internet mate

[@fizzol12345]

This is good news. I feel we’ve finally realised the importance of retaining engineering skills in our homeland. Thing are moving in the right direction.

[@generalaal8378]

in germany we call it deutsche Ingineurskunst which means germans are inventing the best

[@leopold7148]

@@generalaal8378 you sure it doesnt simply mean 'german engineering'?

[@MrNebelschatten]

It means the art of German engineering. Greetings from Bavaria, Germany

[@timphillips9954]

@@leopold7148 Germans may engineer, but the Brits invent it first. Think tanks and the jet engine.

[@leopold7148]

@@timphillips9954 brits made the first operational jet engine?

[@Obdurately]

No matter how it’s spun, it’s absurd that in a rich with country of 60 million people that the most the national budget will allot is for 148 tanks. Against a peer adversary, that token force wouldn’t last 1 month.

[@Obdurately]

E.g. See real world Ukraine/Russia losses - between maintenance and destroyed vehicles 4 weeks before “no more tanks left” for combat is actually generous.

[@Joker-yw9hl]

For those arguing that 148 is not enough, it's worth considering that because we work through coalitions and alliances it's hard to see where we'd ever need to use these tanks as a singular nation alone against a state actor. For the foreseeable future our geopolitical focus will be on the Indo-Pacific region so the navy/airwing is a priority (as well as cyber capability and espionage etc). Tanks will only ever be needed en masse in eastern Europe (in which we would be working with NATO allies) or God forbid another Middle Eastern foray, but this looks highly unlikely. So with all this in mind 148 of these new Challenger 3's are capable enough at the moment, and it seems like an excellent tank

[@thor4164]

I was a driver on Chally 1, driver then gunner on Chally 2. They both had there, errm, challenges - mechanical wise - , especially the tracks. The gunnery kit on the latter, however, was fantastic. This Challenger 3, with its upgraded gunnery kit, and ironed out mechanical issues, will be something else

[@markthompson5105]

but is it any good do you no? is it a match for the german and russian tanks?

[@Yimello]

@@markthompson5105 Russian tanks? The ones that are being knocked out daily by Ukrainian farmers?

[@jewson101]

@@markthompson5105 a ford focus is a match for russian tanks these days

[@jordanleigh8119]

@@markthompson5105 the german leopards are very poorly armoured. Even a 100m gun is more then capable of going straight through any part of a German leopard tank

[@JostVanWair]

@@markthompson5105 Someone riding around on a motorbike with an RPG-7 is a match for a Russian tank these days...

[@Reaver70]

Integrated electronics across the battlefield.... sounds like the recipe for a single cyber attack to disable your entire force.

[@MilanVVVVV]

They all have fallback systems in that case, it's not the only "mode" they can operate in. All modern vehicles on the battlefield are set up that way, Russia's, US', etc. Ensuring a steady and fast flow of information between units is vital.

[@levyroth]

release the worm

[@JasonSturgess]

They will have manual over ride for sure ! would be stupid not too.

[@lesjackson5561]

Budget cuts will give us an Armour plated Corsa.

[@davidgillies5342]

About time we had a Challenger Mark 3 long overdue. Great work!!

[@Elbereth_TV]

the Mk.3 was made in the cold war :P

[@Foxik58]

3 =/= mk3

[@cyanoticspore6785]

@@Elbereth_TV you're thinking of a different tank mate

[@Elbereth_TV]

@@cyanoticspore6785 nope, Mk1 was made in ww2, mk 2 in 1977 and the Mk3 was made in 1983, this is the Challenger 3 wich comes after the challenger 2 wich came into service in in 1994

[@cyanoticspore6785]

@@Elbereth_TV i was talking about the fact you said that the challenger 3 was made in the cold war, which obviously it wasn't

[@davidlefranc6240]

glad for them they have a good tank they upgraded it abit more thats cool much love from qc canada

[@cvdheyden]

Nice Toy. Congratulations! Probably that tank is going to be sold much better. Look forward to hear more from it! A salute from Frankfurt/Main Germany.

[@IonorReasSpamGenerator]

Yes, everybody will be excited to buy the most underpowered tank from NATO inventory with the hull armor of a 25-year-old tank. The main reason for the upgrade is likely easy availability of high-performance munition for new smoothbore gun without the need to spend own money on development and production base as would be necessary if keeping the rifled gun. For upholding NATO commitments by patrolling Baltic states and some peacekeeping of developing countries more than sufficient, but hardly bestseller on defense market as buying such old overweight design is anything but future-proof due to limited upgradability into the future...

[@thewanderingstranger6638]

@@IonorReasSpamGenerator So what's your preferences on tanks, u seem to know what your talking about, mine bob Semple tank.

[@frankthompson6503]

We've got great technology for tanks but definitely not enough tanks Not enough soldiers Not enough Marines Not enough coverage for our beautiful country great Britain.

[@hb4095]

148... This latest review definitely looks like the headshed is planning for best case scenario not worst

[@BritishFreedom]

As long as they keep the Challenger 2 in storage to bring out in the near future should we need it, I'm not too concerned. I just want a shorter time span between turnarounds for tanks, keeping the old tank in service, overlapping the use of the new tank.

[@fludblud]

@@BritishFreedom Yeah, at least have decently sized fleet of legacy tanks in reserve. The capabilities of near peer and even 3rd rate armies and militias is rapidly growing, quality hardware can only go so far before quantity takes on a quality of its own.

[@skwidthecrayfsh34]

@@fludblud if all you have is a rifle; the difference between a chieftain and a challenger is largely academic

[@scootergrant8683]

@@fludblud You make such a good point with such good choice of words. "quality hardware can only go so far before quantity takes on a quality of its own." I couldn't agree more. All you need is an army that is motivated enough and a lot of supplies and you can do anything.

[@scootergrant8683]

@@skwidthecrayfsh34 Wasn't the chieftain retired?

[@nepaliman5716]

Leopard is excellent tank ... but challenger is good in its own way ... there must be diversity.. such a beautiful machine

[@valter14725]

the only thing challenger is good at is being slow and heavy

[@CarAddictUK]

@@valter14725 silly bloke

[@arfgrogue5735]

@@valter14725 You can say that, but its offense is lethal as said. And might I add, its the challenger tank which holds record for the longest tank on tank kill

[@makara80]

Well the Challenger 2 remains by far the more battle proven (when professionally crewed, sorry Turkey ;)) than the Leopard...

[@valter14725]

@The Exemplary Englishman did I say anything wrong?

[@matthewpayne42]

Great news,buying British is the way to go and building the best MBT in the world.

[@binaryswinery5862]

No it is not! 120mm smoothbore is already used by most battle tanks.

[@rayhan_2k841]

@@binaryswinery5862 its the 120mm l55a1...not the l55 or l44 or m256 or the French 120...CR3 has the best gun in NATO

[@binaryswinery5862]

@@rayhan_2k841 How can something be the best when it doesn't even exist yet?

[@rayhan_2k841]

@@binaryswinery5862 they literally tested that gun.....

[@binaryswinery5862]

@@rayhan_2k841 Lol. Your logic is very simple.

[@forceofone]

lancet drone and kornet-e have entered chat....challenger 3 has left chat.. hahaha

[@ThePalaeontologist]

It's a shame they don't try and build 200 at least. 148 seems a little low but I can understand the logic there of only having the number deemed necessary for the times required. It's the unknown times that might require more than 200 though. Maybe by 2030 that number would have increased a little (hopefully not reducing any further of course, either) I am sure that they will all have wonderful tea making amenities whatever their total number. Nice to see the Challenger III. Was wondering when it'd be made.

[@CabbageConquerer]

It's just a start and they'll still use the old ones for a while.

[@vMaxHeadroom]

I agree but I presume that the Challenger MKII will still be around and then later we will add more numbers...

[@ThePalaeontologist]

@@CabbageConquerer Yeah I had the feeling it'd be like the fighters where they'll phase out the older units from older batches/tranches and slowly upgrade the fleet. I'm sure there will be some crossover with the Challenger II's and Challenger III's with the older ones slowly being phased out with a mixed fleet until well past 2030 if their dates on this video is anything to go by, so I totally agree (unless they just straight up build a big number of them for 2030 and replace a lot of the fleet at once, but it's still gonna be a mixed fleet anyway even if they do that, seeing as they can't just completely replace them overnight so naturally you'd expect some transition period between Challenger II to Challenger III)

[@ThePalaeontologist]

@@vMaxHeadroom Yes I agree.

[@danielkrcmar5395]

148 isn't even a combat number. 60 odd will live in Canada on our training range out there, 10-20 will probably be kept as spare. We'll probably only have like 80 odd fitted for actual combat. We better be keeping the Challenger II tanks to use along side. Then at least we'll but increasing our numbers rather than decreasing, even if some are old the Challenger II is still one of the best tanks out there.

[@Braun30]

The connection thing means we have finally reached the dream of knowing what's over the hill that has pestered military strategists for centuries. Just think of WW1 where communication was made by runners or pigeons and the speed of advances was to be calculated in order to give artillery support to advancing troops, normally ending up in loss of contact within minutes from the starting whistle. In WW2 the speed of information was high but in no way near that needed, so units could be out of line easily, ending up in ungodly messes. And although the top speed of this beast is high, the speed of advance is conditioned by the supporting infantry speed, which once dismounted from their carriers is exactly that of the WW1 soldier.

[@a39tortoise40]

Surprised no one is talking about its speed. 40kmh faster than the leopards and Abrams... Brilliant piece of engineering!

[@hummerskickass]

I think it will probably have a governor on the engine like the Abrams.

[@m1a1abramstank49]

I’m kinda dubious on it actually going up to 60 mph without giant reliability problems. Not saying 45-50 mph isn’t good when governed from 60 since that’s practically the average. I think they meant 60 mph as the engine can go to that speed but it will be governed normally

[@meme4one]

This is what the MoD are asking for, its not been designed or built yet 😮😉

[@lsq7833]

Absolutely worthless metric. Most MBT's, leopards and abrams included, are perfectly able to already reach or exceed that speed when ungoverned. The actual useful metric is hp/t ratio, and it's still at the lower end of the spectrum. So, nice that it can potentially reach that speed, too bad it will need an airfield runway to actually reach it.

[@iguanaamphibioustruck7352]

As a bearing engineer, working with over a hundred engineering departments, I can recite the bearing formulae. If you double the speed you cut the life in half. It you double the load you cut the life by a factor of eight. My work for over 30 year is; Low Impact Tracked Vehicles. My recommendation for tanks is to have four tracks with angle control instead of two. If you apply the power in the center and distribute it to the tracks, you can control the dynamics of the track system for all terrain operation. Iguana

[@spawn6636]

We just need a real situation to prove its self, the world laughed at the challenger 2 until the gulf war, then no one laughed anymore.

[@matthewbroome4408]

Can it be used against the French rubber boat people?

[@liamblenx101]

If only they had BAE whack on the ADAPTIV camo.

[@BrotherSurplice]

@@somedrytoast2307 But how's his short game?

[@rushymoto]

Until it got penetrated in Iraq by an improvised shape charge.

[@spawn6636]

@@rushymoto I guess you talking about the led convex on an tin IED, they was tested by the MOD and they found out that, it penetrated up to 6" of steel, I dont believe there is any armour that can stop one of them.

[@ianchinsor9248]

Smooth bore over the previous rifled, will be interested to see what these ‘programmable rounds’ are like

[@phoephoe795]

Yeah- wondering what it'll do for long range accuracy?

[@visiter127]

Will be a waste of time if the satellites are taken out, should of gone rifled as a redundancy

[@taiga_pz6566]

@@visiter127 that's where the gunner's skills comes in.

[@christopherpoole2185]

*enemy incoming* Round: “would like a 1 month free trial of HEAT +?” No!!! “Would you like Itank to automatically order replacement shells?” Aaaaaaaa

[@visiter127]

@@christopherpoole2185 I yank needs to restart for an update

[@lalec1417]

Rheinmetall, there's a good old British name for you. The ability to put an armoured brigade in the field in 2030 will give the PLA pause for thought. Still we heard a devastating barrage of gobbledygook from the defence secretary that will make Putin jealous.

[@krashd]

They're European, we're Europeans deal with it. You wouldn't be bitching if we just bought American tanks but god forbid we work together with a neighbour who actually gives a damn about what happens on our continent. In a war you learn who your real friends are just as Taiwan will learn who they're real friends are when China rolls into their country and the US does what they did when Putin stole the Crimea.

[@skwidthecrayfsh34]

@@krashd mate I think you completely missed what he was saying, you’ve made quite a fool of yourself

[@hummerskickass]

@@krashd it appears to be that you did not understand the point he was trying to make. One that they are relying upon a German company to be able to guns for a British tank. Two that it’s going to take another decade before the tanks are actually ready to be fielded in numbers. And three that we just got more typical corporate/political speak jargon that means nothing. Also the US did not previously have any significant relations to Ukraine. And speaking from a very practical standpoint losing Taiwan to China would make it astronomically difficult to challenge the Chinese in the Pacific. As they can close off the South China Sea much more effectively. Keep in mind we’re talking about a province versus an entire nation being taken by force. At the very least with Crimea there was the ambiguity of the referendum.

[@krashd]

@@hummerskickass And why is it that our country no longer makes anything? It's because the Tories privatised everything and those companies were bought and then either shut down or moved abroad. And yet who is the working man's hero in this upside-down world we currently live in? The Tories. If people don't like the fact that France now owns our power plants and Germany owns our car companies while an Indian company threatens to close steel plants in Sheffield and Port Talbot every other year then maybe they shouldn't support the party that likes to sell stuff. The Tories are going to do the exact same with the NHS and then in 30 years Tory supporters like the OP will be whining about how all of our hospitals are owned by American insurance companies and about how it used to be us that created drugs and cured illnesses... I guess we just can't solve the problem of stupid, huh?

[@krashd]

Also China would never in a million years stop shipping in any part of the world, they are as dependent on it as we are.

[@magirusdeutzjupiter2234]

I knew Chris Tickell back in the 80s in Norway with the Royal Engineers, he was a Captain then, great man, great officer, good to see him again.

[@gaspardttcourt1937]

"They decided to buy british" "It will be produced by rheinmetall"

[@thomashambly3718]

If you listened, you'd have noticed it was a joint venture between rheinmetall and BAE

[@gaspardttcourt1937]

@@thomashambly3718 yeah but still

[@thomashambly3718]

@@gaspardttcourt1937 but still what? You'd rather we get our cannons from a company that is British? even though rheinmetall is the leading experts on weapons and armour?

[@gaspardttcourt1937]

@@thomashambly3718 first im half french half german and i was just pointing the fact that the narrator was contradicting himself

[@stephencrompton4352]

Rheinmetall and BAE are the joint _designers_ but the manufacturing will be British, hence "buy British".

[@Hyperious_in_the_air]

>"they decided to buy British" >Made by Rheinmetall AG

[@harshmallow6882]

Certified bruh

[@aaaaaa2206]

Watch the video again.

[@harshmallow6882]

@@harrier331 yeah, Rheinmetall BAE Land, joint venture system with Rheinmetall (55%) and BAE (45%)

[@Mgaming61]

Ah yes... The Germans and the British together, the best combination ever!

[@generalaal8378]

in germany we call it deutsche Ingineurskunst which means germans are inventing the best Friends i hope since waterloo

[@keithpringle3940]

Works for Liverpool! Well, worked last season!

[@babyyoda3497]

@@keithpringle3940 Hey Chelsea fans are happy about Tuchel now

[@keithpringle3940]

@@babyyoda3497 Happier after yesterday's result anyway! They might even end up happier if Leicester do them a favour on Tuesday and they beat arsenal on Wednesday!

[@MrEsphoenix]

No use shunning your allies to make a hollow point. Germans are leading the way with guns for NATO, something which Britain has fallen behind in, and although I think it was a good move to stick with the challenger over the leopard, that doesn't mean we shouldn't invest in other nations technology when it suits both parties.

[@nacebedace8243]

should just make the lower plate f_____g thicker

[@trainman2226]

in other news, war thunder plans to release the challenger 3 by next patch

[@innouniversedoineedthis]

It doesn't look all that different anyhow

[@warrenlehmkuhleii8472]

God bless the UK, from an American.

[@zarakovixdread146]

Incredible news for Telford, literally the Military Hub of the Country now

[@saltmerchant749]

Army maybe. Home of the Navy will always be Pompey and Devonport.

[@stickbreads6719]

3:33, he is in the tank. Very cool.