British Army armoured brigade trains with German Panzer division

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@philippprezewowsky90
@philippprezewowsky90 11 ай бұрын
My German granduncle used to be a submariner in WW2 and fought against the British. Their submarine got hit by the royal navy and now his body is lying somewhere in the north Atlantic. Good to see we're way closer nowadays and how far we've come in our relations 🇬🇧🇩🇪
@chadoki8274
@chadoki8274 11 ай бұрын
how times have changed ahaha
@fredslipknot9
@fredslipknot9 11 ай бұрын
My grandfather was an artillery officer in the British Army and he was taken as a POW in Italy. I’m glad today to be friends together in NATO. Guten Tag!
@philippprezewowsky90
@philippprezewowsky90 11 ай бұрын
@@fredslipknot9 same. Good day!
@philippprezewowsky90
@philippprezewowsky90 11 ай бұрын
@@fredslipknot9 same. Good day!
@leeprince9283
@leeprince9283 11 ай бұрын
Very sad never mess with the UK only country in Europe that had not been invaded in the last 1000 years.(Act of union 1037)
@ReallyFarFarAway
@ReallyFarFarAway 11 ай бұрын
- FANTASTIC !!! ... however ... the numbers, both on the British as well as the German side, are ridiculousl low !!! !!! !!!
@EnglishScripter
@EnglishScripter 11 ай бұрын
Very much European doctrine. Spend everything on growing economy, so when it does come to war, you have a huge economy to mobilise.
@Jarod-te2bi
@Jarod-te2bi 11 ай бұрын
British & German armoured forces working together ❤
@killer_of_americans
@killer_of_americans 11 ай бұрын
Americans and british supported communist. Now they are crying why america and britain are woke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GOD BLESS GERMANY 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@TheAexitus
@TheAexitus 6 ай бұрын
Who could stop them ? 💪
@brettk9316
@brettk9316 Ай бұрын
@@TheAexitus Merica probably hahah.
@AKSnowbat907
@AKSnowbat907 11 ай бұрын
If our granddads and great grand dads could see this.
@killer_of_americans
@killer_of_americans 11 ай бұрын
Americans and british supported communist. Now they are crying why america and britain are woke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GOD BLESS GERMANY 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@schlawa
@schlawa 11 ай бұрын
Actually my grandpa who fought in WW2 died just a few years ago in 2018, and we have had the British Army in Westphalia since 1945 training along the German Army since the mid 1950's :)
@newton18311
@newton18311 11 ай бұрын
My Grandfather fought at the Somme. He said they were like us, they did not want to be there.
@lindacurrie8817
@lindacurrie8817 9 ай бұрын
Think our grandads and great grandads would prefer to not see this as would rather those in power seeked peace, jaw jaw instead of war. I think they would have a heavy heart knowing that thousands of our working class sons and daughters will die as have in previous wars. As has happened and happening in Ukraine and Russia. Never those in power who die or their sons and daughters they will all go on to live a happy healthy life. However plenty money to be had in war for doners same for those in power they loose nothing, No money to be made in peace.
@angeladeverick4847
@angeladeverick4847 2 ай бұрын
As the daughter of an RAF W/O and a German mother (who was sent to the Flemish coast to man the searchlights for the flak in the war), this gladdens my heart in a thousand ways 👍🇬🇧🇩🇪❤
@William3666Evans
@William3666Evans 22 күн бұрын
Makes a change from fighting each other many respects brother 🇩🇪 from 🇬🇧
@peterabbott1974
@peterabbott1974 11 ай бұрын
Unstoppable force🇩🇪🇬🇧🇺🇸🫡💙
@killer_of_americans
@killer_of_americans 11 ай бұрын
Americans and british supported communist. Now they are crying why america and britain are woke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GOD BLESS GERMANY 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@pzakp311
@pzakp311 11 ай бұрын
We‘ve come a long way during the last 70 odd years and I am more than happy about it. British troops were a very common sight in the area where I live (Lower Saxony, Fallingbostel county) during Cold War times. To see them back here and train with our forces is reassuring. Salutes to you Britons!
@killer_of_americans
@killer_of_americans 11 ай бұрын
Americans and british supported communist. Now they are crying why america and britain are woke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GOD BLESS GERMANY 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@pzakp311
@pzakp311 11 ай бұрын
@@AntiWokeXyCitizen Thank you for your service in my country. It’s good that you have some positive memories about your time in the armed forces when stationed in Germany. My mother’s kitchen once had about 10 squaddies cramped together inside, all happy and thankful for the warmth and enjoying baked eggs, cold cuts, coffee and fresh bread.
@frankthompson6503
@frankthompson6503 11 ай бұрын
The battlefield is changing fast countries are changing hand's everyday l would have Germany with us not against us
@matt4239
@matt4239 11 ай бұрын
Countries are changing hands every day? which ones? 😂
@hc-nj3ve
@hc-nj3ve 11 ай бұрын
British armour has trained alongside German counterparts since the middle of the cold war. Come on granddad
@davidhunt3808
@davidhunt3808 11 ай бұрын
Yes we fought two wars against the Germans but the Germans/ Prussians saved Wellington's army at Waterloo . So it is not the first time British and German forces have worked/fought together . Working together is the way forward it just might make Mr Putin think twice .
@thetruthhurts7675
@thetruthhurts7675 11 ай бұрын
What countries have changed hands this year? What have I missed?
@frankthompson6503
@frankthompson6503 11 ай бұрын
@@thetruthhurts7675 Finland as from today is part of NATO
@herbertwalser2504
@herbertwalser2504 24 күн бұрын
If germany and UK work together never ever can stop us 🙂
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 11 ай бұрын
Why do senior officers, rarely bother to shape their berets?
@adamwoodford7629
@adamwoodford7629 11 ай бұрын
Gopping beret, Colonel..
@svens.3839
@svens.3839 11 ай бұрын
As a German citizen, I would like to see a lot more cooperation with the British, I think we can work better together because we also have identical interests 🇬🇧 🤝🏻 🇩🇪
@fredslipknot9
@fredslipknot9 11 ай бұрын
Yes agreed.
@SimDeck
@SimDeck 11 ай бұрын
Completely agree. I lived in Germany for 3 years when I was a kid. It was one of the happiest times in my life. I have been back many times in all parts of the country and miss it immensely when I am not there. We have so much in common
@killer_of_americans
@killer_of_americans 11 ай бұрын
@@SimDeck Americans and british supported communist. Now they are crying why america and britain are woke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GOD BLESS GERMANY 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@matthewwalker5430
@matthewwalker5430 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely, it's so much nicer being on the same team than having to face each other on opposite sides ... except on the football pitch, there we are still mortal enemies 😋
@svens.3839
@svens.3839 11 ай бұрын
@@matthewwalker5430 Football is of course a different matter..... you know a game always lasts 90 minutes and a penalty is awarded when Great Britain loses to Germany 😉🙈
@RD-dn7yv
@RD-dn7yv 11 ай бұрын
Nothing changes, us Brits can't speak German very well. Ein Bier bitte!
@TheHokage1936
@TheHokage1936 11 ай бұрын
Prost
@RD-dn7yv
@RD-dn7yv 11 ай бұрын
@@TheHokage1936 noch mal
@killer_of_americans
@killer_of_americans 11 ай бұрын
@@RD-dn7yv Americans and british supported communist. Now they are crying why america and britain are woke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GOD BLESS GERMANY 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@TheAexitus
@TheAexitus 6 ай бұрын
Prost ! Salut from germany
@theram4320
@theram4320 Ай бұрын
Wir konnen Deutsch sprechen...if we try.
@paraguard60
@paraguard60 11 ай бұрын
This is great stuff!!
@JayMalcom-e1l
@JayMalcom-e1l 6 ай бұрын
Just 80 years ago, they were enemies and look where we are now. Wonderful. "We must go forward to preserve in peace what we won in war." (Admiral William Ross, 2375) ;)
@JC-187
@JC-187 11 ай бұрын
They would of never thought this back in 1940s
@xwormwood
@xwormwood 11 ай бұрын
The real pitty is the 1914 fiasko. If only we all would have found a way to talk back than instead up destroying our people and near future. So glad that we stand now side by side, as it always should have been
@IanPayne-z5l
@IanPayne-z5l 11 ай бұрын
Britain and Germany, well Prussia, Saxony, Bavaria, Hesse etc have been allies for a long time. It was the French that were the problem.
@Mohul06
@Mohul06 10 ай бұрын
"Germany" and Britain were allies before ww1
@ThomasLatcham123
@ThomasLatcham123 11 ай бұрын
Good to have this support together thanks army
@SevenStanesMBT
@SevenStanesMBT 11 ай бұрын
This is what happens when democracy, rational thinking and common goals toward freedom and liberty are national aims. Compare and contrast this awesome collaboration and many more achievements with the results and aims of "Strong Man" politics.
@paulfoster3316
@paulfoster3316 11 ай бұрын
they have to work together because both armies are undermanned and equiupped and are reliant on the USA for their security.
@MrPhoenixWT
@MrPhoenixWT 6 ай бұрын
We are blood, 🇬🇧❤️🇩🇪
@mikewinston8709
@mikewinston8709 11 ай бұрын
??? We’ve always been integrated with the Bundeswehr…..nothing new here. Old news.
@BS-my6qx
@BS-my6qx 11 ай бұрын
Indeed... until the 80s and early 90s, training together was usual. Even with many troops and big (“free running“) exercises...
@RD-dn7yv
@RD-dn7yv 11 ай бұрын
Not to this level.
@mikewinston8709
@mikewinston8709 10 күн бұрын
@@RD-dn7yv Yes we did. I’m a former 2434 - 1974/1998….RH. I lived in Germany for years. We trained with the Germans all the time.
@janeisklar3923
@janeisklar3923 11 ай бұрын
Europeans are the same people with a diverse culture, we are brothers and sisters and we need to stay allies, even when the British brother decides to gain some distance to us. We are all European❤
@CanOfRabbitHoles
@CanOfRabbitHoles 11 ай бұрын
underrated comment
@Carsten-rf4ny
@Carsten-rf4ny Ай бұрын
Never against eachother, but allways together
@guardmark
@guardmark 11 ай бұрын
Like what that officers side about languages, it has always been classed as a “language barrier “.
@HarryWebb46
@HarryWebb46 10 ай бұрын
British Army soldiers joining a Panzer Division!? I am in heaven!!🎉
@lindacurrie8817
@lindacurrie8817 9 ай бұрын
Your heaven based on war may make you happy.....Do hope the young working class soldiers that have died have a place in heaven. Sure their parents, brothers and sisters will be in a living hell grieving.
@HarryWebb46
@HarryWebb46 6 ай бұрын
What a stupid comment! My father fought against Germany in WW2. He was damaged for life with what was then called 'Shell Shock'. Today, we call it PTSD. Despite his fate, he admired the German troops and stated that he was happy that 'they would be on our side next time round'. He would have been delighted with these recent developments. No more war between European nations. Given these formal alliances, your argument is an illogical one.
@jimramsey8887
@jimramsey8887 24 күн бұрын
Just Brilliant News from an Old Brit
@internetperiodista
@internetperiodista 11 ай бұрын
Guderian probably would be ok with this video
@robertmiller1299
@robertmiller1299 11 ай бұрын
What is so horrifying is how small our contribution is compared to what it was and what it ought to be. We are not nearly strong enough given the threat from Russia. Our 250 tanks are not nearly enough? In the case of battle losses what replacements have? None! Do we really expect to fight a war without losses?
@Bobbybulsara179
@Bobbybulsara179 11 ай бұрын
Our role wouldn’t be supplying tanks. That’s why we only have that many. Our contribution would be as part of a coalition. For example Poland has a large land army, we have sea and air power, etc
@robertmiller1299
@robertmiller1299 11 ай бұрын
@@Bobbybulsara179 The trouble is that we don’t have much of anything. Our forces have been hollowed out and we have no capacity to sustain the serious losses which the Ukraine war has demonstrated are all too likely in modern war. For safety of our homeland we need much much larger armed forces of all kinds which can sustain serious losses. That we do not have at present. And our European NSTO allies are the same. And what happens if there is a crisis in the Falklands or Northern Ireland just when we have to commit our forces to fighting in Eastern Europe?
@drewwilliams6888
@drewwilliams6888 11 ай бұрын
British Government doesn't take the threat of Russia seriously. When Ukraine and Russia make peace, Russia, will re-arm, using their wealth from oil. Once again, we will be caught short.
@RD-dn7yv
@RD-dn7yv 11 ай бұрын
Cold War budgets are a thing of the past. That's why the closer integration and interoperability is being tested and honed. It's the way forward. Large standing armies cost too much money.
@-MarcelDavis-
@-MarcelDavis- 11 ай бұрын
@@robertmiller1299 I agree with you, to and extend. Britain needs to be able to fight a war on it's own because NATO isn't going to help when something happens to it's overseas territories. But I wouldn't worry about Europe. Even if you exclude the US, the European part of Nato spends around 400 billion dollars on military and has over 1.5 million active military personel, around 7000 tanks (and unlike Russia we don't count every rusting carcass of a tank on our scrap yards towards that number) , 9 carriers, 100+ frigattes and idk how many jet fighters (too lazy to add up all the numbers from wikipedia) but Germany, Britain and France each have around 180 jet fighters, the US currently has around 200 more stationed in Europe and can ship countries worth of fighters here in a matter of days. And that's in peace time. Now imagines us spending 6% of GDP like Russia Russias army didn't look much different before the war than ours does now. As I said, they just counted every wreck they had stored somewhere towards their vehicle fleet. Their actuall army was much smaller but now it has ballooned as every army would during war time.
@johnhopkins6260
@johnhopkins6260 11 ай бұрын
About damn time: The Americans have been doing this for generations. "None of us is big enough to do it alone...": words to the wise.
@killer_of_americans
@killer_of_americans 11 ай бұрын
Americans and british supported communist. Now they are crying why america and britain are woke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GOD BLESS GERMANY 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@ijm1963
@ijm1963 Ай бұрын
We have an armoured brigade??????😂😂😂
@cvdheyden
@cvdheyden 8 күн бұрын
Very well. But this has to increase and it is not a wellfare for our countries. We have ridiculously saved our armies to death. We have to increase the spending on the military and that means at least 3% of the GDP (especially for Germany) to strengthen the military forces in both countries.
@BarrowZigger
@BarrowZigger 11 ай бұрын
Is this what used to be known as BFBS?
@CindyKalbakdalen-zs9us
@CindyKalbakdalen-zs9us 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant!
@Arthur54321
@Arthur54321 11 ай бұрын
Panzers Roll...
@philipthompson5580
@philipthompson5580 11 ай бұрын
Combat team who came up with that
@AlexanderBeiderbeck-v3v
@AlexanderBeiderbeck-v3v 3 ай бұрын
me been sorry ,not that from above the British Forces a member must gonna spend up there a look for but also interresting for a "big" Diesel it could gonna get be the BR 218 from above the German Railway DB ,thanks say's or even better writes yours listening Alexander Christian Beiderbeck from above Wilhelmshaven in Lower Sachsony in GE
@whya2ndaccount
@whya2ndaccount 11 ай бұрын
Just de archive the mountains of documents from BAOR.
@rolandwhittle8527
@rolandwhittle8527 11 ай бұрын
Nothing about the French or Italians there😅
@svens.3839
@svens.3839 11 ай бұрын
They definitely know the best and fastest way back 😂🤣👍🏻
@TheAexitus
@TheAexitus 6 ай бұрын
@@svens.3839 lol
@peterabbott1974
@peterabbott1974 11 ай бұрын
🇬🇧😎🇩🇪
@DontKnow-hr5my
@DontKnow-hr5my 11 ай бұрын
Somewhere in the beyond, a lot of people are shedding tears
@Magnus2323
@Magnus2323 11 ай бұрын
o7 🇬🇧 🇩🇪
@davemc9268
@davemc9268 11 ай бұрын
Is that the same German army that stated earlier this year it has 2 days supply of ammunition?
@hansxyz3799
@hansxyz3799 11 ай бұрын
Because we send everything to Ukraine to Fight against Russia, and the UK??? Hold my beer
@killer_of_americans
@killer_of_americans 11 ай бұрын
@@hansxyz3799 Americans and british supported communist. Now they are crying why america and britain are woke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 GOD BLESS GERMANY 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@TheAexitus
@TheAexitus 6 ай бұрын
sure
@newton18311
@newton18311 11 ай бұрын
The next step in Amalgamation into the EU Army.
@chrisbacon3071
@chrisbacon3071 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love that the two of our tank regiments are working together... But I think logistic would be a LOT easer if the Challenger 2 had a smooth bore gun in stead of that rifled trash were still using! we should have stopped using that dam gun then the Challenger 2 was going though it's prototype and develop phase! 😡
@jonreid7957
@jonreid7957 11 ай бұрын
Chally 3 getting smoothbore, calm down love.
@chrisbacon3071
@chrisbacon3071 11 ай бұрын
@@jonreid7957 By the time it’ll get here it will most likely be outdated like the Chally 2 was. 😒
@7stormy334
@7stormy334 11 ай бұрын
​@@chrisbacon3071it is or nearly is in serial production already. The turret is the main difference so they are switching the turrets on the challenger 2
@cathulhu-q7y
@cathulhu-q7y Ай бұрын
@@7stormy334 its entering production and service in 2027, thats 10 years after the Leopard 2A7V entered service with exactly the same technology.
@7stormy334
@7stormy334 Ай бұрын
@@cathulhu-q7y Wrong. the Challenger 3 is in service in 2025 (brought forward) so in 1 year and the Leopard 2A7V has been in service since only 2019.
@Joe90V
@Joe90V 11 ай бұрын
Hope all the brexit loons who howled about Uk being in an EU army get to see this 🤣 They're such planks it probably never occurred to them that exercises to manage interoperability have been going on for decades.
@ZuulGatekeeper
@ZuulGatekeeper 11 ай бұрын
Interoperability with allies has always been a cornerstone between Nato members since it's inception. The EU & it's fan club has denied for decades it had any military ambitions, crazy talk, myth, a fantasy shared by Eurosceptics the EU is an economic & political project or so we were told. Well what a surprise another lie, the EU has come out the shadows it wants to be a miliary power. For years behind the curtains it has been making moves, setting up the legal frameworks, command structures & military-strategic headquarters in Brussels all ready to take control of national forces under it's unified command. Already it has EU battle group's & only a few months back it held it's first live military exercise with a fully-fledged military deployment force involving thousands of troops, jets, ships, an effort to show the world it's now a serious military power in it's own right.
@StuartHanson-fo7iw
@StuartHanson-fo7iw 15 күн бұрын
U disrespectful little prik, cooperation is cooperation and sovereignty is sovereignty, two entirely different things, instead of condemning us, your own blood people u should endeavour to understand our view points, open your closed mind and understand we simply love our country, it’s very important to us, particularly us up north🇬🇧
@StuartHanson-fo7iw
@StuartHanson-fo7iw 15 күн бұрын
That’s nato mate, not sure, we fully support nato, that’s the whole point ya plumb, we don’t want a ridiculous eu army because we have nato, the best alliance in the world 🇬🇧
@davidkellycomment
@davidkellycomment 11 ай бұрын
COMMENT: difficult, with issues of differential transactional approaches, and specifics of contracting, that leads to exposure of strategic confluence manifest as culture/language/linguistics.; definite need to account for unusual social pressures of long term stressors, diametrically opposed, as outcome of constancy of conflicting ideologies, as self-contradictory cognitive dissonance, as passive acquiescence to such position posited....go figure.
@Subtleknife12367
@Subtleknife12367 11 ай бұрын
"We have routine staff talks about interoperability"....aka defence has been stripped to the bone, we no longer have an army so we need to band together with other European nations that have also destroyed their Armed forces as well...defence on the cheap will get soldiers killed if a conflict ever happens. If you are serious about defence, it has to start with properly funding each of our own Armed forces within Europe. Relying on America is criminal. All this talk about warfighting is ridiculous, the British Army has no mass, no redundancy. It is a paper tiger.
@savethebeesplantherbs8809
@savethebeesplantherbs8809 11 ай бұрын
I have family serving in the british army and royal marines european security is a issue for everyone in nato however britain should work closer with the us and canada thats our culture germany has many friends in europe those coutries around her work more with them
@rocknroll9233
@rocknroll9233 11 ай бұрын
HYPERSONIK 🚀👍 RUSIA Urraaa ........... Free PALESTINA 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@TheAexitus
@TheAexitus 6 ай бұрын
xDDDDDDD
@zinjanthropus322
@zinjanthropus322 11 ай бұрын
Just as Hitler intended.
@pdarley58
@pdarley58 11 ай бұрын
No we don’t need to become comfortable with integration of our army and thus essentially under the control if a foreign power (EU). We left that…. Remember???
@PaxBritannica34563
@PaxBritannica34563 11 ай бұрын
Two NATO nations collaborating is worlds apart from the European Union you sausage...
@peterfalk7084
@peterfalk7084 11 ай бұрын
I disagree, I think we do. Global threat actors are joining forces and we aren't big enough to tackle it alone.
@MrSplodez
@MrSplodez 11 ай бұрын
As expected, KZbin comments filled with unemployed armchair generals (and/or Ruski bots) that think the UK shouldn't train with allies. Do yourself a favour and lift a book, if you can manage that, try reading it.
@liam1666
@liam1666 11 ай бұрын
We left the EU not NATO
@richardtargett4128
@richardtargett4128 11 ай бұрын
Ever heard of NATO? We have worked very closely with the Dutch, French, Norwegians, Germans, Americans and Canadians for decades.
@ipdavid1043
@ipdavid1043 11 ай бұрын
Keep sugarcoating your useless weapon
@5j237
@5j237 11 ай бұрын
At least it doesn’t simultaneously combust when scratched
@johnallen7807
@johnallen7807 11 ай бұрын
Warning! Putin bot!
@luigiwoo4469
@luigiwoo4469 11 ай бұрын
what are you on about?
@ipdavid1043
@ipdavid1043 11 ай бұрын
@@johnallen7807 what are u on? Fentanyl?
@johnallen7807
@johnallen7807 11 ай бұрын
I don't need drugs, you obviously do! you haven't even got the balls to post under your real name! what are you scared of Sonny?@@ipdavid1043
@mogs23
@mogs23 11 ай бұрын
The beginning European army
@jjsmallpiece9234
@jjsmallpiece9234 11 ай бұрын
And the problem with that? Europe gets its act together and defends our society or Vlad tries it on.
@Jonny-sv9ni
@Jonny-sv9ni 11 ай бұрын
​@jjsmallpiece9234 pretty cute you think it's gonna be vlad that tries it on
@mogs23
@mogs23 11 ай бұрын
@jjsmallpiece9234 the Russians are in no position to try it on and they never will be unless they change their army training weapons and military leadership and civilian leadership. On th other hand the biggest threat to Europe and the uk will come from within are borders its called uncontrolled imagration from Muslim countries and Africa isis said in 2015 that they will flood Europe with their people and so far they are living up to there word
@VanderlyndenJengold
@VanderlyndenJengold 11 ай бұрын
The UK was instrumental in even closer European ties after WW2 to stop future wars. Just because a few lying, Russian-influenced 'politicians' (some never actually elected to UK parliament) tell you European integration is bad is no reason to believe them. It makes you look what you are - easily fooled.
@orcho141
@orcho141 11 ай бұрын
begging?
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