Ford 7.3 Powerstroke EGT Probe Install And Test

[@McCallieOrchestra]

For those confused on the terminology, the probe installed in the manifold is called a thermocouple. The thermocouple measures exhaust gas temperature (EGT) displayed on a gauge called a pyrometer. In other words, a pyrometer reads EGTs from a thermocouple. Pre-turbo readouts for most diesel cars and trucks should stay below 1,250 degrees Fahrenheit sustained temperatures because aluminum parts like pistons can start to melt. A few seconds at hundreds of degrees above that temperature during brief, hard pulls should not be hot enough for long enough to create permanent heat related damage. One sign of an engine with sustained EGTs being too high is if the inner rim of a piston bowl has lost the sharpness of that edge and has started to become sloped or rounded. On non-dual ball bearing turbos, a diesel engine is not supposed to be shut down until a pyrometer is displaying EGTs of 350 degrees or cooler because engine oil still that hot will coke and gradually destroy the turbo. Dual ball bearing turbos continue spinning and slightly circulating the hot oil but are still susceptible to the problem. Other turbos stop when the engine stops so the hot oil has no further movement and the heat cannot disperse. On diesel trucks, EGTs most need to be monitored when temperatures are staying over 1,200 degrees like when ascending hills while towing heavy loads, and to know when it is safe to shut down the engine.

[@josephcirelli9642]

Great informative video content! Thanks for explaining the install process & why monitoring your EGT temperature. I was new to Diesel engines when I bought my truck. She was my first Diesel engine! I had a big learning curve to say the least, Lol! Thanks for all you do making your videos and I look forward to seeing more of your videos soon!

[@ficmrepair]

Excellent video! We always use Tap Magic when tapping threads, use a shop vac against the drilled hole and then again against the tapped hole to clean out the shavings, and use Permatex Copper anti-seize on the threads. Hope this helps someone - we're all in this together!!

[@paulcarroll5727]

Lol right on

[@LivingOnWheels]

Great tips!

[@kmann1430]

Thanks amigo👍

[@ndttech]

crank up the engine right before you drill through the manifold, this will blow out and prevent any metal shavings on the inside at all.

[@jcbenson01]

That is a GREAT idea. Thank you. Literally what I came here looking for.

[@iainf6]

Excellent can do video Joe, you should be so proud of what you have achieved on this channel now with 1.1k!😉

[@skylinepainting1904]

Another good video thanks joe

[@dennisparker7541]

great informative video. only thing i would add would be anti-seize on the sensor going into the manifold...

[@bobodine9299]

Hey thanks this is a great Channel I appreciate the knowledge I get from you I was just wondering what injectors you are running and Do you have a TS tuner Hydra or what, does your transmission shift nicely in all four gears

[@LivingOnWheels]

Thank you. I am running AC injectors (160/0). These are paired with custom tunes from Jelibuilt performance. I am very pleased with his tuning all around, including the transmission shifting. Shifts are well timed and strong without slamming into gears.

[@packingbone1953]

Nice man! I just went and looked at a 2001 7.3 today but it was nowhere near as clean as yours. It’s hard to find these trucks that weren’t used as construction rigs.

[@LivingOnWheels]

Thanks man! She looks cleaner on video haha but I made sure to just on the deal fast when I saw it pop up.

[@Retardedkidz13]

One of the best channels I’ve seen for 7.3 content. Your a hard worker man you should be proud!

[@LivingOnWheels]

Thank you, I appreciate that!

[@bch5513]

I agree. A lot of them out there that do great things but don’t really SHOW it well. For those like me that didn’t grow up turning wrenches in diesels and not “OBVIOUS” what Doing the way you do videos is a Godsend.

[@sgreene8081]

In a truck we call that a pyrometer. Anything over 1200 deg can an will melt the turbo first. But waste gate should help but not always. Now you can safely pull the waste gate an know you are safe.

[@LivingOnWheels]

I guess I never actually called it a pyrometer in the video haha.

[@sgreene8081]

@@LivingOnWheels I wonder why this isn't stock? Anyways awesome video. I have so much to get done to my 99.

[@LivingOnWheels]

It is stock on newer generations. My guess would be that they weren’t too worried about it because 7.3s in stock form don’t push enough fuel to really cause any problems.

[@drivingmylifeaway7149]

1,200 to 1,300 degrees is safe. Anything over 1,500 degrees is hard on it... I touch 1,600 degrees frequently in my pulling trucks

[@catchfishhunthogs104]

@@drivingmylifeaway7149 That is not good advice 😂 Stay below 1200

[@skylinepainting1904]

Joe my 7.3 is all stock but I do carry a 3000 pound camper schooldays I install a egt

[@LivingOnWheels]

If you’re asking if you need one then probably not but it is always nice to have

[@curtisbull1583]

Have you towed heavy with your truck since this video? Wondering what your egts are with your mods. My 2000 is stock with a K&N type open filter and Hydra tuner. Egts towing 15000 plus lbs are crazy high, even on a 25 hp tow tune. Hoping a better CAI and full 4 inch exhaust will drop egts. As of now I really can't even tow heavy without egts hitting 1200 to 1300 degrees. My Cummins truck I had never had much of an issue with egts, this Powerstroke is a nightmare as far as egts go.

[@LivingOnWheels]

I towed heavy ish a few times with my final setup and it performed phenomenal. Towed 12k back from Idaho going through threw some mountains and I only once barely got it to touch 1200*. I would def get rid of the K&N although I don’t think that’s your EGT issue. The exhaust might help a little. I’m guessing you aren’t running custom tubing from someone? I would highly recommend switching to custom tunes from Jelibuilt or 1023. If I had to guess I’d bet your EGT issues are in the tuning your running.

[@curtisbull1583]

@@LivingOnWheels thanks for that, maybe tuning alright. Probably going to get a S&B Cai, with a paper filter and full 4 inch exhaust. Then maybe different tuning, don't know who's tuning is on there now, pretty sure the tuning we got right off the Hydra website. Got like 10 or 13 different tunes. Just a bit afraid to put money into this truck and still be disappointed.

[@GMCJay_lly]

I notice a lot of guys have the truck running while they drill and tap the hole, just to be on the safe side...

[@LivingOnWheels]

Yep that is something a lot of people do. I chose not to because we had it up on the lift.

[@FixItNick]

Awesome vid thanks man!! I thought most install it on the down pipe by a turbo?

[@LivingOnWheels]

Most recommend installing as close to the cylinders as possible. You want as accurate of a cylinder temp reading as possible and there is a HUGE difference post turbo.

[@jeff.3.2.12]

That's the best spot on our 7.3's on the drivers manifold, I run mine same location; I'm old school, I run the analog gauge.

[@LivingOnWheels]

I love the look of analog gauges. Just can’t beat how much the digital is capable of for the same price.

[@MalachiJoy-w2c]

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[@xxkornxx56]

I know I’m late to the party but to minimize shavings getting where they shouldn’t, I was taught to add grease to the tap. It catches the extra metal so it doesn’t fall into what you are tapping. Great videos and keep up the good work.

[@LivingOnWheels]

Yup. Thats a good tip. Especially if your are coming in from the top.

[@brian221969]

Question - if you end up with shavings inside the manifold that you can't get out - could that damage the turbo?

[@LivingOnWheels]

Technically I suppose it could but chances are very very slim. They would pass through almost immediately

[@KingDerp93]

How fast is "crickets" mph?

[@josephcusick1111]

When I climbing up hill my oil temp with camper can run up to 300 degrees.

[@LivingOnWheels]

I don’t think I ever saw mine above 230 or 240. If you are seeing 300, that is crazy high. I would be concerned about a clogged oil cooler or something. Maybe stuck thermostat.

[@keithnoneya]

Good content, do you have the link to the International Specs on Temperature warning. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya

[@LivingOnWheels]

Unfortunately I do not have them saved.

[@clday25]

I spy Barlow road at about 9:12 in the video. I'm actually pretty excited that I figured out one of my favorite 7.3 Powerstroke content creators lives so close! Great video Joe!

[@LivingOnWheels]

Small world!

[@thomasbarlow4223]

Hey thats my street!

[@timidater4803]

she said you should have used some lube!!!!!!!

[@89dmorales]

Like your videos,, thanks

[@KristinaChavis]

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[@jacoe33333]

I just bought a 2002 7.3. Exactly the same color as yours.4x4 crew with 157000 miles. Thanks for the video's. I just had the trans overheating and so it went to the shop that rebuild it for the previous owner as it is still under warranty. How does this compare to the banks system in your opinion? I need a system like this.

[@LivingOnWheels]

If you are comparing it to the Banks round gauge monitor thing then I like this a lot more. From what I know, essentially they are the same thing but this has a bigger screen where you can view a lot more.

[@josephcusick1111]

Joe I put in the edge I’m having heat issues for oil tempi used to live close to you in west Linn but moved to az. Last summer pulling hills in 100 temp my oil temp would Lise up to 290 degrees before I’d pull over to cool down.Do you have any recommendations to reduce heat . Thanks

[@LivingOnWheels]

With that high of numbers I would make sure you’re oil temp sensor is good and then clean out you’re oil cooler. Not a fun job but it’s not uncommon to have them get clogged up.

[@josephjones3066]

Love your channel been subscribed for awhile in the middle of a 2001 powerstroke build right now thinking of going with the cts 3 for gauges mainly egt and trans temp, I know I’ll have to install a probe for egt but my question is will I get a readout for the trans temp or will I need to install a probe for that as well?

[@LivingOnWheels]

CTS3 is a great choice. You won’t be disappointed in it. As for the trans temp, the truck has a factory sensor. So no need to install one 👍🏻

[@josephjones3066]

Thanks for the quick response, I’ve learned allot from your channel looking forward to learning more keep up the good work. Semper Fi

[@wespower133]

I’ve got a stock 2000 7.3, cut off the muffler and I did add the 6637 filter. My question is with a single 60hp tune from ts performance, do you think I should be worried about egts all that much? I don’t run it hard, and barely pull anything at all.

[@LivingOnWheels]

No I doubt you have to worry about it.

[@tonywillingham8109]

When you installed the fuel pressure gauge, what all components did you need? I think I need the Edge Products 98620 EGT starter kit. I saw a “T” adapter for splicing into the fuel hose that someone else makes. Did you use something like that? If you have a video on that point me to it.

[@LivingOnWheels]

I used edges pressure sensor (the one listed for “air only”) and put it into my CNC fab fuel bowl delete block.

[@AlixJones-f2y]

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[@SimpsonKitty]

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[@El_Sueno_]

THANKS FOR THE TIPS! GREAT VIDEO!

[@NoyesDorothy]

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[@josephcusick1111]

Joe what is your oil temp when towing up mt. Hood . I have the same set up thanks

[@jackalopeadventures6411]

Great video man. Thanks for the help!

[@LivingOnWheels]

Glad it was helpful

[@bedubia]

Do you have the Edge CTS2 or CTS3? Also, wondering if you have thought about setting up a back-up camera with your Edge monitor?

[@LivingOnWheels]

I have a cts2 because the cts3 wasn’t out when I bought it. The cts3 is awesome though. Definitely better. I have thought about it. Just never got around to it

[@iviaverick52]

do you not need to use any threadlocker? I suppose given the exhaust temps, most threadlocker would cook off anyways.

[@LivingOnWheels]

I haven’t ever seen anyone use it for a probe. I think you’re right that it would just cook it off

[@tonywillingham8109]

Can you also monitor these? Fuel pressure HPOP Turbo boost pressure Tranny temp Oil Temp Coolant temp

[@LivingOnWheels]

Factory sensor include all those except fuel psi and coolant temp. So you can see those but you need to add sensors for coolant and fuel psi

[@MrSrtman18]

Awesome vid, real nice truck! Question on the edge, Im getting the cts3, but totally unsure of what I need, maybe you can help. I want boost, egt, and trans temp gauges. What do I need to achieve this? The eas starter kit? Thanks for any input!

[@LivingOnWheels]

Thanks I appreciate it. The CTS3 looks really nice! For what you want, you will need a the EAS starter kit to add sensors and 2 pressure sensors. The truck already reads trans temp so you are good there. I''ll provide links to what I used to set my system up. I believe you could also get their universal sensor input can use another brand pressure sensors for a little less money but I cant cant really speak from experience on that route. With the kit I used I am not using the temp sensor from the kit. Edge EAS Kit: amzn.to/2CrwQqQ Extra 0-100 Pressure sensor: amzn.to/30s4XH5

[@multitoolish]

"simple" if you have a lift. Man I'd love to have a lift like that setup you got.

[@LivingOnWheels]

Unfortunately not mine. I’m still looking forward to the day I have my own shop and lift

[@johncraig406]

late to the Video, but highly appreciate showing where to drill that hole, Edge does not give clear info.

[@LivingOnWheels]

Glad it was helpful

[@speciosa146]

Hey what size socket did you use on the tap?

[@samuelpodolsky2892]

Where does the turbo boost gauge line go? How does the monitor read boost?

[@LivingOnWheels]

Without an extra boost sensor it just reads boost from the MAP sensor.

[@jonduran7617]

1/8" NPT correct? Do you have a vid for transmission temp indication?

[@LivingOnWheels]

Correct. 1/8-27 tap. The trans reading you see is just reading from the factory sensor.

[@josephcusick1111]

Yes I would love towing spec.

[@beniamindumitrache9770]

By doing that, isnt there a way for some rest of metal to remain in the manifold and in time get to the turbo?

[@LivingOnWheels]

Yes there is a chance. It would be in a matter of seconds though before any little shaving are blown out the exhaust. Helps doing it upside down. Some people put grease on the bit to hold shavings, doesn’t hurt to fish a small magnet around either. I can say when I pulled my turbo to replace it the exhaust wheel still looked 100% perfect. Not a single flaw

[@justinwetmore6010]

Did you ever put the temp sensor in for a coolant temp?

[@LivingOnWheels]

I did not. Wasn’t a big concern for me on the 7.3

[@jacoe33333]

Can you add an alert or alarm if any parameters go over a set number that you set it?

[@LivingOnWheels]

Yep. Mine is set at 1200*

[@CHRIS_NYC]

I was driving how you were in this video without the hard pulls and my EOT was 200 and my TFT was 170. Outside temp was 70 degrees and i was not towing. I changed the fan clutch and no difference. Any ideas why both would be running higher?

[@LivingOnWheels]

170 is pretty normal atf temp for these trucks at operating temps. 200 is a little high for oil. Your oil cooler or radiator could be getting clogged up. My guess would be oil cooler is getting some buildup inside it

[@CHRIS_NYC]

@@LivingOnWheels didn't think of that. So you think one being clogged could affect the other since their connected?

[@LivingOnWheels]

@@CHRIS_NYC it’s not uncommon for the oil passages in the cooler to a a bit gummed up over the decades. Less flow through, less cool oil. I don’t think I’ve really heard of the coolant side getting clogged up much.

[@CHRIS_NYC]

@@LivingOnWheels I was thinking of going switching over to a 6.0 cooler and bypassing the radiator. I'm just stumped on what's causing the high Temps :/

[@LivingOnWheels]

The 6.0 cooler is the tranny cooler which I’d say your tranny temps look fine.

[@thecomanchekid]

maybe a dumb question, but does it read the CEL as well?

[@LivingOnWheels]

Not a dumb question! Yes it reads all codes that are thrown. So soft codes that don’t trigger a CEL and hard codes that do. It has been incredibly useful for me.

[@carlconn3963]

Thanks, very good video.

[@catchfishhunthogs104]

@Living On Wheels do you remember what tune that was on?

[@LivingOnWheels]

Probably a mild performance tune. I don’t remember specifically.

[@catchfishhunthogs104]

@@LivingOnWheels ok thanks👍

[@El_Sueno_]

Did you upgrade to the 3 yet?

[@shaunwestergard9276]

Do you have a video where you add the fuel pressure probe you referred to? Thanks in advance

[@LivingOnWheels]

Ummm. It's probably shown in my fuel system build series but I don't have a video on it specifically. Its just the edge sensor put onto my CNC fuel bowl delete block.

[@shaunwestergard9276]

Living On Wheels ok thanks. I’d like to monitor fuel pressure but i still have stock fuel bowl. Wasn’t sure if there is a way to do this. FYI I’m doing a big 7.3 excursion build and my legs don’t work very well either but that doesn’t stop us from having fun!! I’ve really enjoyed your videos. Thanks

[@LivingOnWheels]

Shaun Westergard nice man! Excursion builds are always sweet! There are two ports on the back of the fuel bowl you can monitor pressure from. One pre filter, one post. Not sure which is which but it’s easy to find on a quick google search. Riff raff sells adapters to screw a sensor into. www.riffraffdiesel.com/search.php?search_query=Fuel%20pressure&page=2&section=product

[@desmvp]

How did u do the fuel gauge? Did u make a vid?

[@LivingOnWheels]

I show it a bit in my fuel system build. I tied the pressure sensor into my CNC fuel bowl delete block.

[@tiktoktrends4098]

Can you put tunes on it and switch them like a hydra?

[@LivingOnWheels]

As far as I know you can buy an edge monitor with edge tunes but I dont believe you can switch between tune writers like the hydra

[@tiktoktrends4098]

Living On Wheels oh ok, I was asking because where the hydra would plug into, my truck has a banks otto mind though , thanks !

[@19211926]

Is that wire to the oil filter housing for your oil temp?

[@LivingOnWheels]

If your taking about the big orange one that is the block heater. Oil temp is up on the HPOP reservoir if I remember correctly

[@19211926]

Living On Wheels thanks

[@dunnoyolo2238]

Good video. How much lift is on your truck and what brand ?

[@LivingOnWheels]

Factory ford X-code springs up front. That’s all 👍🏻 so it’s basically a leveling kit.

[@stephenlane7951]

@@LivingOnWheels I was thinking about getting the X codes for lift as well. I was wondering how much rougher it rides compared to the springs they normally come from the factory with?

[@LivingOnWheels]

@@stephenlane7951 It's been a while since I did it but I remember little to no difference. . In ride quality.

[@stephenlane7951]

@@LivingOnWheels That's what I was hoping you'd say. I am looking to level or slightly raise the front of my truck with no noticible loss of ride quality. Good information. Thank you for responding so quickly!

[@reedbertram6024]

Have you added a ect sensor?

[@LivingOnWheels]

I have not. Thought about it, but not a huge concern on 7.3s. Comparatively to 6.0s for example

[@reedbertram6024]

Is the oil temp going to be pretty much the same as the coolant temp? Sorry for so many question lol. I just put a new blueprinted long block in and just being pretty cautious.

[@LivingOnWheels]

Reed Bertram No worries! I’m not a mechanic by any means but from what I know I do believe they should be right around the same temperature.

[@tonywillingham8109]

Have you figured put how to add low oil pressure to the edge?

[@LivingOnWheels]

On the low pressure system or the high pressure system?

[@tonywillingham8109]

@@LivingOnWheels Low side. The high side is available via the IPR, right?

[@LivingOnWheels]

@@tonywillingham8109 correct. I figured that’s what you meant. I looked into it but I never set up anything for it. I think there might be a pot down by the oil filter that you could put a pressure sensor in. I don’t fully remember.

[@tonywillingham8109]

@@LivingOnWheels I have never seen or heard of anyone able to figure that out. That terrible dummy factory gauge nearly left me stranded 8 hrs from home last week. Have you ever heard of anyone doing it?

[@LivingOnWheels]

www.thedieselstop.com/threads/oil-test-port.310832/

[@fxnytroxtxFPP]

Which exhaust you have on your 7.3?

[@LivingOnWheels]

To be honest I couldn't tell you the company. It was installed on the truck when i bought it, but I do know that it is a 4" turbo back strait pipe. I would imagine it is a Diamond Eye or an MBRP aluminized kit.

[@scootertrash647]

So does that unit pick up all the factory sensors without having to wire it in etc.coolant,oil pressure etc

[@LivingOnWheels]

It does pick up on basically all the factory sensors that aren’t dummy sensors. Most of what you see on your dashboard are dummy sensors. For 7.3 I’d say it’s easier to list what it doesn’t read. Low pressure oil, cooling temp, fuel pressure, and egts are the main ones.

[@johngoodbred1945]

Great vid and great timing. I was in the process of researching EGT max and the best location for the probe. Thanks!

[@LivingOnWheels]

Well that worked out nicely! 1200 is a soft limit but I would recommend backing off at 1200 towing.

[@johngoodbred1945]

@@LivingOnWheels Got it. Thanks again.

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