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Ford Falcon XR8 v Holden Commdore SS V Redline Track Review

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Drive.com.au

Drive.com.au

Күн бұрын

In the great Australian V8 war, the Holden Commodore SS in recent years has been consistently victorious. Not only has it defeated the Ford Falcon on the motorsport battlefield, it has also wounded its arch enemy both on the road and in the showroom.
The Blue Oval, however, is going back on the offensive with a new weapon: the first Ford Falcon XR8 since 2010.
The Ford FG X Falcon XR8 and Holden Commodore SS V Redline cost the same $54,690 in automatic form as we have them here, but the eight-cylinder approach under the bonnet is different.
Ford has the on-paper advantage. The XR8 has seized the supercharged 5.0-litre V8 out of the GT that’s no longer on sale, giving it 335kW and 570Nm.
The Holden opts for capacity over forced induction, with a 6.0-litre V8 producing 260kW and 517Nm.
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@phoenix20401
@phoenix20401 6 жыл бұрын
i took an FG-X xr8 for a test drive early last year, all that power was scary. helluva rush!
@Shakattack45
@Shakattack45 7 жыл бұрын
This is my dream ford. I love the design the power and just everything. XD
@drewaftanas7215
@drewaftanas7215 6 жыл бұрын
Shakattack45 it just needs a bigger spoiler on it
@fuz1on237
@fuz1on237 4 жыл бұрын
fuck ford
@EnVyRe4per
@EnVyRe4per 3 жыл бұрын
i reckon this is the worst falcon ever made but just my opinion
@Lickedykuratz
@Lickedykuratz 9 жыл бұрын
I was at Wakefield, that very day, driving my mate's Toyota 86, and everyone in the pits were asking questions concerning this matchup. I was listening in on what was being said, and I can tell you that the driver admitted that he was shocked at the times but the ultimate reason for the Falcon being slower is that it was spinning the tyres a lot more, trying to punt out of all the slow corners. The Holden was a lot more tractable and balanced, power wise, because of the peak torque arriving later in the rev range. But he went on to say that if the race was run at Winton or Eastern Creek, that the Falcon would be able to exploit its superior top end and the times would be more in the Falcon's favour. Would the Ford have gone quicker with slightly wider rubber at the rear? It's anyone's guess. To be honest, Wakefield suits little cars more than two mammoth barges like these. I was almost lapping quicker than both of these in my mate's stock 86. Don't get me wrong though. Just because they're big, doesn't mean I wouldn't buy one!A white F6 sedan and a black Maloo ute, please Santa!!!!!
@Hapkido82AUS
@Hapkido82AUS 8 жыл бұрын
you were doing 1:11s in a stock 86? allllrighty then
@johndoe8781
@johndoe8781 8 жыл бұрын
Lol
@benessbenjamin6682
@benessbenjamin6682 8 жыл бұрын
yes a stock 86 can easily pull 1:11s, they have far superior handling than these mamoths. commodores and falcons never go good at wakefield because they are to damn heavy. they could easily be outhandled on the tight technical bits even by a hyundai excel racecar. ive been to many track days at wakefield, and the commodores and falcons are always sliding off the road chasing small cars, plus they loose their brakes after 2 laps. these cars should just stick to the quarter mile, not the right design for handling thats what lets them down.
@Hapkido82AUS
@Hapkido82AUS 8 жыл бұрын
+Beness Benjamin an 86 Series car with Bates driving did 1:08.7s. Neal Bates driving a stock 86 GTS road car did a best of 1:14.90. the average track day hack and you can add 4-5 seconds to that..
@manofwar577
@manofwar577 6 жыл бұрын
@@benessbenjamin6682 I have never seen a stock 86 run below 114s at wakefield, what timer did you use?, was it your mate in pits using a watch?
@bloodmoon1410
@bloodmoon1410 3 жыл бұрын
The grin on his face when he got out of the XR8 says it all. It was like a f#@k yeah grin. "Felt faster" and I am sure if he was given more time to actually control the extra grunt on the tight circuit the the lap times would have improved significantly. Also totally agree the importance that tyres would play here, this is partly are comparo between the the differences in rubber used by each car.
@t8polestarcyan22
@t8polestarcyan22 6 жыл бұрын
Now I like to see the comparsion between Insignia, in your case the ZB Commodore vs. Ford Mondeo. At least Ford is smart enough not to name the Mondeo as Falcon!
@MrTommyemmanuel
@MrTommyemmanuel 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the ZB Commodore/SAAB/Opel vs a Mondeo? I think the Mondeo should be redesigned with the previous RS Focus AWD setup and 2.3 ltr Engine & Turbo!
@B0SS330
@B0SS330 9 жыл бұрын
Disregard the power figures here, the XR8's Miami 5.0 is making 375kW/650Nm versus the Redline's 270kW/530Nm... that's 28% more power and 19% more torque !
@EnVyRe4per
@EnVyRe4per 3 жыл бұрын
and than u have the vf hsv putting out 440kw
@orion5813
@orion5813 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnVyRe4per GT-F has more
@EnVyRe4per
@EnVyRe4per 3 жыл бұрын
@@orion5813 the gtf makes 351kw thats almost 100 less kw than the gts and the gtsr w1 makes 474kw, dont see any fpv making more power from stock
@orion5813
@orion5813 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnVyRe4per When they dynoed the GT-F and GTS the GT-F had more power. W1 wasn't released yet . I love them both but just stating facts. GTS is cooled too unlike the Miami
@EnVyRe4per
@EnVyRe4per 3 жыл бұрын
@@orion5813 i think i did hear about the gts not having as much power as hsv stated
@GreendragonDMX
@GreendragonDMX 9 жыл бұрын
have to remember the Falcon needs to wipe off alot more speed comming into the corners..power on will be later because it will just wheelspin....the fact they are both achive essentially the same laptime but in completely different ways is a absolute credit to both Holden and Ford in our two final versions of our cars
@joeled9226
@joeled9226 9 жыл бұрын
Funken people sayin ford are better than everything. I like both equally
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 9 жыл бұрын
The last hurrah for Ford Australia hey. Saw a new Falcon in the flesh yesterday, looked good.
@fanoffreedom3003
@fanoffreedom3003 4 жыл бұрын
Bye bye holden the mstangs are here all the holden fans will have to switch or be a fool and be smoked by every mustang and his dog
@nickycrea6075
@nickycrea6075 3 жыл бұрын
@@fanoffreedom3003 I'd rather an old falcon or commodore over the mustang
@rowieg2148
@rowieg2148 4 жыл бұрын
260 kw 6.0 litre 🤣 I love these unfair ford vs Holden comparisons. The 6.2 litre series 2 is 304 kw and Holden still won
@OLLDOG
@OLLDOG 4 жыл бұрын
Rowan Geerlings exactly
@Chabobox1
@Chabobox1 4 жыл бұрын
Just saying I don't think that CarAdvice had the opportunity to use a time machine.
@mills3375
@mills3375 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t know how it’s unfair since at the time the series 2 wasn’t out yet. And that’s coming from Vf2 SS owner
@orion5813
@orion5813 2 жыл бұрын
Won on the track ? You going to race like that in the real world ? No non hsv vf can match the miami on the street. fact
@PGee.
@PGee. 4 жыл бұрын
The lowest point in my life was when I was a holden fan for around 6 months that is when my dad and brother disowned me. But I'm rehabilitated now and my family as welcomed me back in their lives.......
@fanoffreedom3003
@fanoffreedom3003 4 жыл бұрын
John Boston oh ok yup never herd if him ever in 30 years of watching australian motorsport
@claudiomazzitelli302
@claudiomazzitelli302 8 жыл бұрын
I have driven these cars i love them both beautiful machines :).
@fuz1on237
@fuz1on237 4 жыл бұрын
yeh im sure u have dickhead
@meladgul
@meladgul 4 жыл бұрын
FUZION I love Aussies
@sircefiro
@sircefiro 7 жыл бұрын
Both good cars, the ss should be in the 5s 0-100? 6.4 sounds pretty average
@mclongkock6678
@mclongkock6678 6 жыл бұрын
How come the holden is 1 sec slower than other reviews?
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 9 жыл бұрын
I will miss these cars, especially Ford
@7071t6
@7071t6 7 жыл бұрын
BS MY2015 SSV Redline re: L77 6lt does it in 5.4 second's 0 to 100KM AUTO as well ? EVEN P DRIVE does its own testing with most of the FORD and holden models and they are consistent ?
@maxsfilms591
@maxsfilms591 8 жыл бұрын
Ford 4 Life
@jubletyre1386
@jubletyre1386 8 жыл бұрын
Not when u spin off the apex into a wall. Glad I have a commodore
@MOS-MHz
@MOS-MHz 7 жыл бұрын
Commodore drivers tend to like poles instead...
@darylsummer1424
@darylsummer1424 7 жыл бұрын
I like moles
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 5 жыл бұрын
MOS6507-1.19MHz good one mate 👍🤣 GO THE FALCONS! 🇦🇺💪
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 5 жыл бұрын
Juble Tyre You’d have to be driver like you to spin off into a wall. Which means if you’ve got no brain, you don’t know how to drive properly buddy. U probably have a can cruncher SV6 🤣. So quick ay! 😂👌
@pranavmukesh
@pranavmukesh 9 жыл бұрын
More of these track tests please!!!
@PrestigeWorldWide179
@PrestigeWorldWide179 8 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeessshhh!!!!!
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 9 жыл бұрын
One of these cars snuck aboard a shipping barge headed Stateside and instead of being deported, it would be marketed as a Chevy. Holden won this battle even without Ford ducking out early.
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 9 жыл бұрын
They should've taken the money. If they had, Lincoln would have way better cars than the shit they build now
@joeyy17
@joeyy17 9 жыл бұрын
Think again man, commodore nameplate is staying after 2017, which is sooooo bad for Holden as the commodore is being made into a front wheel drive car made in china...... so in other words they are ending shitly...
@electricdiesel1993
@electricdiesel1993 Жыл бұрын
If Falcon and Commodore stay in production should build Falcon XR8 coupe and Monaro SS and Territory XR8 4WD and Aventura SS AWD respectively.
@shaggz20022002
@shaggz20022002 5 жыл бұрын
They didnt use the 6.2L SSV?
@mitchellnelson466
@mitchellnelson466 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they did.
@czechoslavakianrambo308
@czechoslavakianrambo308 4 жыл бұрын
Mitchell Nelson no they didn’t. The SS didn’t get the 6.2ltr LS3 until the second series.
@CurtisLSA
@CurtisLSA 2 жыл бұрын
series 1 redline which this is in this video is the L77 6.0
@shaggz20022002
@shaggz20022002 2 жыл бұрын
@@CurtisLSA why didn't they use the S2?
@CurtisLSA
@CurtisLSA 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaggz20022002 I would say that the series 2 was not out yet. The video date shows dec 2014 that this was uploaded , before the series 2 was built.
@TheRapidKiwi
@TheRapidKiwi 9 жыл бұрын
just crazy how much better the holden is. Just goes to show you the power isnt everything. Good setup goes a long way.
@Mr500RWHP
@Mr500RWHP 9 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought a Redline would be faster around a track than the new xr8 (essentially a GT R Spec). Gotta wonder how much bigger the gap would be on a larger track
@TamaSPC1
@TamaSPC1 9 жыл бұрын
Ďàŕþ ĎÀŕþ
@matthall3065
@matthall3065 4 жыл бұрын
A bigger track would suit the falcon having more house power the holden can get the power down better out of the corners without wheel spinning being less powerful also holden has much better tyres than the falcon so this review is bs
@Mr500RWHP
@Mr500RWHP 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthall3065 The review is fair. Best holden v8 vs best ford v8 at the time.
@YouCantSawSawdust
@YouCantSawSawdust 9 жыл бұрын
John who.........??
@viovstheworld
@viovstheworld 4 жыл бұрын
Falcon all the way.
@makimk7796
@makimk7796 2 жыл бұрын
For people who say a 4 door camaro won't be good the commodore is a 4 door camaro
@electricdiesel1993
@electricdiesel1993 Жыл бұрын
Rumour say the bland Camaro sedan concept just actually will be Camaro first electric sedan
@alivirk1524
@alivirk1524 5 жыл бұрын
Try HSV W1
@geranwilson7552
@geranwilson7552 7 жыл бұрын
Can one of you down under guys tell me why 20 persist on calling it a Holden when it's obviously a Chevrolet do GM own Holden I've never even heard of a hold of it took a couple of years ago
@Drivecomau
@Drivecomau 7 жыл бұрын
General Motors Holden is the Australian arm of GM. Like Vauxhall in the UK and Opel in Europe. The Chevrolet SS is a Commodore exported to the USA. It is built in Australia.
@manofwar577
@manofwar577 6 жыл бұрын
Good review!
@fuz1on237
@fuz1on237 4 жыл бұрын
shut ur mouth u little rat
@nick_8386
@nick_8386 3 жыл бұрын
@@fuz1on237 ok
@7071t6
@7071t6 7 жыл бұрын
Also there you go more HP does not mean your going to be quick on a track, look at the LJ XU1 compared to a V8 at the time the fastest 4 door sedan in he world ? XY GT Ho with over 270KW and top speed of 140 miles per hour, yet the little LJ XU1 was always over taking the bigger cars due to the extra steering and power to weight etc. :)
@callumfreebairn8082
@callumfreebairn8082 2 ай бұрын
i loved my falcon ea!
@quadcoreQ
@quadcoreQ 8 жыл бұрын
how is 5.4 and 6.4 a four second difference?
@MetalPhreakAU
@MetalPhreakAU 8 жыл бұрын
"one full second" not "four seconds". Hard to hear when he's being talked over by other audio.
@theslicefactor5326
@theslicefactor5326 4 жыл бұрын
I like them both.
@lewisemptage9856
@lewisemptage9856 6 жыл бұрын
Bro that xr8 has like 100 more hp then the commodore how is that fair
@B0SS330
@B0SS330 9 жыл бұрын
Yeh, stick a 500hp motor in the SS-V and it will probably spin off the track !!
@Mr500RWHP
@Mr500RWHP 9 жыл бұрын
Surely you cant be serious?
@B0SS330
@B0SS330 9 жыл бұрын
Mr500RWHP It sure as hell won't handle as well as it does with a measly 270kW....
@Mr500RWHP
@Mr500RWHP 9 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@Mr500RWHP
@Mr500RWHP 9 жыл бұрын
Good chassis, good brakes, good tyres. I dont see the problem
@B0SS330
@B0SS330 9 жыл бұрын
Mr500RWHP look at what the GTS has in terms of better driveline, diff, brakes etc and that has 570hp. An SS-V with blower kit would be making close to that sort of power so it will definitely lose some chassis finesse.
@reggiegrant9487
@reggiegrant9487 5 жыл бұрын
yep because of the parent company and the government the production of truly brilliant cars to suit our country we will be force fed shit from europe
@sourwords1808
@sourwords1808 9 жыл бұрын
Ford would have been the better choice if they updated the interior. Nothing worse then being inside this car, and has the dash from 10 years ago.
@mills3375
@mills3375 6 жыл бұрын
promote your business here The dash isn’t from 10 years ago cause it is the same from the fog mk2 which came out in 2012 but I agree it is really outdated. But it is the last falcon so why waste money on a new interior when it is the last one
@Chabobox1
@Chabobox1 4 жыл бұрын
@@mills3375 I don't think Ford really had an option, they had a much lower budget then Holden
@o.gviper7566
@o.gviper7566 8 жыл бұрын
You guys have no idea on how much speed restriction is on that holden. If u took all of the restriction off it would beat that ford 4 sure!
@Prissyoh
@Prissyoh 8 жыл бұрын
Do some research and you would find the xr8 has more restrictions on it than you can count. For one the throttle is reduced to 80%. Adjusting this alone give it another 50kw.
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Placucci that’s spot on mate. My uncle’s got an FG mk1 XR6 n/a and he wanted to put it on a dyno but he didn’t. The guy told him from Ford on the FGs and FG Xs in particular the high output models like the GTs, GSs, F6s, XR8s and Sprints etc etc, they’ve hidden a tune in the car that’s activated through a switch somewhere and he said that he can flip that switch and then plug the computer in and congratulations you now have the figures Ford wanted from there motors on each models but never implemented with stock everything. Love to see what an XR6 Sprint would have been.
@JacobHall1601
@JacobHall1601 4 жыл бұрын
Look loved the video but pullin a 0-100 in 5.4 and 6.4 when both these cars are capable of low 5 seconds times on a bad day is weak the Falcon can easily do a 4.7 seconds and the commodore a 5.2 on a good surface
@FocusRS500
@FocusRS500 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder where the hell they got there times from lol
@Cykoid
@Cykoid 9 жыл бұрын
bullshit review i doubt the xr8 is slower 0-100 than a stock xr6 turbo
@joytech23
@joytech23 9 жыл бұрын
Their 0-100 times are a fair whack off. Not sure if they are via GPS or speedo, very high above sea level or what..
@michaelpark8239
@michaelpark8239 9 жыл бұрын
Phillip Pirikahu Think it may have been traveling uphill... I hope
@Cykoid
@Cykoid 9 жыл бұрын
Slaughter naut its a bullshit concept overboost because it doesn't generate more boost it comes on earlier
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 9 жыл бұрын
Cykoid Indeed, something up there, I get mid 4's in my G6E with only 300rwkw. Even before the mods it was a fairly easy dead 5 seconds. Maybe the shit factory Dunlop's to blame there? First thing I got rid of. Also times turn to shit with traction control on - he had no apparent wheel-spin when you really need just a touch to get the best result.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 9 жыл бұрын
The car tested here is an automatic.
@JohnJohnson-Aotearoa
@JohnJohnson-Aotearoa 3 жыл бұрын
Both nice mean cars.......
@k.tucker2011
@k.tucker2011 7 жыл бұрын
Man ford always increases 🐎 power but not anything else. But why vs a super charger to a naturally asperated v8? Clear disadvantage, but in this case the extra bang wasnt enough. Good job holden
@CurtisLSA
@CurtisLSA 2 жыл бұрын
STill held up around the track though !
@k.tucker2011
@k.tucker2011 2 жыл бұрын
@@CurtisLSA yeah they both did great
@benschmidt3967
@benschmidt3967 9 жыл бұрын
He does not get the times right. 0-100 times are too slow. Its capable of 4s- you never floor a V8 in 1st. I think the SS is slower- again. He does not power out of the corner properly in the Ford....a GT-R spec suspension and a stock SS sorry. You threw the boxing match...go get your brown paper bag from GM...
@Chabobox1
@Chabobox1 4 жыл бұрын
@@martindonohue900 I think he meant as in there was some bias
@chevy-is-a-good-boy
@chevy-is-a-good-boy 9 жыл бұрын
If only the XR8 had a better interior...sigh...
@johndoe8781
@johndoe8781 8 жыл бұрын
Yes driving that ford gives the feeling of sadness because of the interior. You just want to get off it fast lol. But good speed, but speed is not everything in a car. Holden has speed aswell as good comfort interior.
@chillpill4936
@chillpill4936 9 жыл бұрын
Funny how ford make smaller more powerful engines yet all holden manage to do is make bigger old engines to get the same power output lol.
@garethcurtis7545
@garethcurtis7545 5 жыл бұрын
Correction: Less power than Ford.
@fanoffreedom3003
@fanoffreedom3003 4 жыл бұрын
John boston is bias hence the red shirt
@15mikuru
@15mikuru 9 жыл бұрын
Why do they always make it a tie between these two cars? are they scared of angry car enthusists? people have no back bone these days, this is youtube for christ sake.
@micko9111
@micko9111 9 жыл бұрын
These videos are always fixed in faver of the holde one video i wathed the gt-r spec ran a 400m in 13.1 if u know your fords u know its complete bullshit most of these videos are fixed.o ok the holden is faster around a little track well ppl who buy these cars race in a straight line off the lights.there was a drag 400m drag video of these two cars and the xr8 shit all over it conviently enough i cant seem to find that video now
@mills3375
@mills3375 6 жыл бұрын
micko9111 I agree. Respect Holden but ford really is the best car. Got to love the Barra
@TheWretchedWorld
@TheWretchedWorld 9 жыл бұрын
the difference in lap times could be the difference in tyres lol, never been a fan of the sp sport maxx tyres ford uses Holdens bridgestone offerings are much better
@TheWretchedWorld
@TheWretchedWorld 9 жыл бұрын
also the Ford has a much heavier front end hampering turn in
@word1901
@word1901 9 жыл бұрын
TheWretchedWorld yeah put some bridgestone re003's on both of them I bet ford wins I put re003's on my xr5 turbo and the understeer is gone different cars I know but tyres make a big difference
@TheWretchedWorld
@TheWretchedWorld 9 жыл бұрын
***** yeah the sport maxxs are desperately average my car was prone to understeer before fitting Michelin Pilot Super Sports the car turns in a lot sharper now and the steering is much more communicative can't believe the difference it can make. Would be interesting if they ran the same tests with the same tyres as the Commodore.
@robjeeves1486
@robjeeves1486 9 жыл бұрын
Ive owned various fords and holdens over the years. Currently Holden is just a better car, the ford lacks good chassis dynamics.
@coxy_normus
@coxy_normus 6 жыл бұрын
1 has an imported engine and the other 1 has an Australian engine
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 5 жыл бұрын
Dan T Yes the XR8 is the Aussie engine and the LS is not.
@jaidenkelly5121
@jaidenkelly5121 4 жыл бұрын
That Falcon looked like it was horrible to drive. Leave it to Holdens Ford.
@bobbyski5732
@bobbyski5732 9 жыл бұрын
driven the new Senator , R8 Clubsport ...my mates have both..I opted the SSV Redline.....absolutely no performance difference ! Infact Holden and Performance Drive all state 0-100 in 4.8 secs for all 3 and I would have to agree .....A supercharged V8 cant even beat the Holdens ...imagine simple OTR , tune and catback in my Redline ! My mates VF Calais with full exhaust , tune and OTR ...A CALAIS would eat this Ford ...all for 50k with basic mods and no super charger !
@blampa
@blampa 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, I've had a bit of a tough week and I needed a really good laugh. You're awesome.
@bobbyski5732
@bobbyski5732 9 жыл бұрын
Stay in denial mate ....;)
@blampa
@blampa 9 жыл бұрын
Oh, you were being serious? Sorry mate, my bad.
@bobbyski5732
@bobbyski5732 9 жыл бұрын
I am going to test drive the xr8 so will find out first hand ....meanwhile would love to see a straight line 1/4 mile...The Redline, Xr8 and R8 Clubsport
@gureno19
@gureno19 9 жыл бұрын
Robert Bobski yeah have fun dropping 10k on a cam,OTR,tune,exhaust and headers to get about 420rwhp out of an LS2.....and thats being generous in my pricing. meanwhile the XR8 drives into a tuning shop and drives out with close to 500rwhp with a flash tune that cost $1000 tops.
@millenrogers9787
@millenrogers9787 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Fgx Xr8 but the vf Holden commodore has been more grown up instead of a bogans car
@TheMightyFordFalcon
@TheMightyFordFalcon 9 жыл бұрын
i The Falcon is more australian than a bloody holden gm opel omega dawewoo commodore shit box. The Falcon V8s are american but the 6's are all ours made right here and are pretty much ripping up the road everywhere! One bloke has got 1600hp out of his XR6 Turbo! Since 1972 the falcon has been 100% OURS. We designed it, engineered it and built it. It's a very underated aussie car where as the Commodore has simply been a overated bogans sheeps car basically and Holden as a company really knows how to pull the wool over the australian people, It makes me bloody SICK. Classing cruzes, captivas, barinas, colarados as australian when they are simply rebadged peices of korean crap! You only have to read on up the publics reveiws on these rip offs to really see just how bad they are. BUT...People still buy them becasue holden tells them to because its a holden and its austrailan and my best friend has one and the doors go THUMP when you close them and they look cool BLA BLA BLA. Idiots.I like HSVs and classic holden cars but thats it. I actually hate the company HOLDEN. If only we exported the falcon to america. It could have saved it as I know they would just love our big 6 turbo! yep, I bleed blue! The falcon my be dead in a couple of years but in the hearts of true ford fans it will NEVER DIE. LONG LIVE THE FALCON.
@DIGITAL01UAA
@DIGITAL01UAA 8 жыл бұрын
You have no idea do you?
@TheMightyFordFalcon
@TheMightyFordFalcon 8 жыл бұрын
who Dion Mifsud
@Ducksauce33
@Ducksauce33 8 жыл бұрын
+TheMightyFordFalcon I think we do have Falcons, they are just called Fusions over here.
@TheMightyFordFalcon
@TheMightyFordFalcon 8 жыл бұрын
***** No mate. But its pretty much the american falcon the fusion
@jordanwhitehouse7726
@jordanwhitehouse7726 6 жыл бұрын
TheMightyFordFalcon aye I like Ford and Holden equally
@jawmalawmnz
@jawmalawmnz 9 жыл бұрын
I'm a Ford fan and own a 2004 XR6 NA but these fools are tryna tell me that my car is only 1sec slower to 100kph than the latest Holden SSV VF? the fuck outta here
@jawmalawmnz
@jawmalawmnz 9 жыл бұрын
Shit yeah I borrowed my parents little Nissan Note and the steering was so much easier but than I got my car fixed and picked it up from the mechanics and it felt like the damn Titanic trying to steer the bastard
@roflcopterkklol
@roflcopterkklol 9 жыл бұрын
+Baldwynmayhem It is well known that fords under steer, that is where the entire ford v holden debate has always come from, the fords have always under steer and the holdens all over steer.
@MOS-MHz
@MOS-MHz 7 жыл бұрын
What the fuck are you talking about? Back in the days of BA vs VY v8 supercar series the falcon was dominating the whole decade until the FG came along. The only reason they started having issues was new restrictions were put in place. They knew the dimensions and aerodynamics of the falcon was an advantage over even the VE commodores. The first FG testing supercar was actually faster again so the committee made new regulations on height, width and length to the specs of the VE. The cut and shut bodge job fucked over the falcon in more ways then one, it actually dampened it's driving characteristics and aerodynamics. Even the knew coming manufactures have issues with those regulations. Problem is all because the committee is ran by ex Holden drivers they made everyone change to suit the Holdens. The commentators always used to whine about Ford winning with the BA and BF, every race "this needs to be changed blah blah blah". Oh no we cant let anyone else win, the beloved "Australian icon" must win, even if it is really an Opel with a Chev engine.... Holden fans in general are just sad fucks
@MOS-MHz
@MOS-MHz 7 жыл бұрын
***** Lets not even begin with the Alan Moffet days either. Only for the GTHO's Phase series to be banned outright by the Australian Government... Oh and not to mention a Phase 3 from 1971 still produced more HP then the current SS redline lol. Funny how Ford has more restrictions then Area 51
@MOS-MHz
@MOS-MHz 7 жыл бұрын
***** Im not poor at all im a software engineer and work 60hrs a week, maybe i will never get one but my modded BF F6 does me fine :)
@romeoguitar
@romeoguitar 9 жыл бұрын
Aurion vs Xr 6 plzzzzz
@meladgul
@meladgul 4 жыл бұрын
Xr6 will chop the Aurion
@shannen1499
@shannen1499 7 жыл бұрын
Both Aussie cars
@HastaLaVista6666
@HastaLaVista6666 9 жыл бұрын
congratulations for the least creative ford of them all, looks like a chinese car that looks like a jaguar *shame*
@hazyburger9448
@hazyburger9448 9 жыл бұрын
Who cares about looks I'm lookin for POWER!!!
@mills3375
@mills3375 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say the fg x is a bad looking car
@rickphillips7221
@rickphillips7221 6 жыл бұрын
only thing fast about a ford is the owners excuse when they lose.
@garethcurtis7545
@garethcurtis7545 5 жыл бұрын
Lol...piss all Falcons lose to any road going Holden.. you're a dreamer. Enjoy your Daewoo.
@smartey2612
@smartey2612 5 жыл бұрын
rick phillips idk about that one buddy just trashed a worked VN LS last night in an XD 351 mate and about a year ago we thrashed a stock VF2 GTS in a stock FG X XR8 and for a car like a GTS that has 430KW wasn’t pulling away. Pretty horrible for a car that costs that much if ud ask me. But guess what we thrashed him without the traction control off and we weren’t in Performance Drive 🤣. One tuff Holden if ud ask me. U should’ve seen how hard he was trying to get away 😂👌. But let me be honest here, it does come down to the weather, the heat from the tires, what you’ve turned off on the car etc etc.
@arkhsm
@arkhsm 9 жыл бұрын
P.S., the Holden couldn't even break traction for some of the photos they wanted; how WEAK !!
@thispranksux7374
@thispranksux7374 4 жыл бұрын
What photos are you talking about.....
@duallipspoiler
@duallipspoiler 3 жыл бұрын
australian mondeo vs australian opel
@g220shaun
@g220shaun 8 жыл бұрын
what a load of shit i dont believe a word.. watching that hsv run the track was like watching paint dry... the only thing that let the falcon down was street tires, hsv couldnt spin the wheels on a bananna peel... it didnt race around the track it drove around the track... Put some proper tires on the xr and do it again.. its got race car power of course those tires werent gonna hold her...
@johndoe8781
@johndoe8781 8 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a hsv lol it was a ssv redline. If that was a hsv that xr8 would have been left behind.
@philkelly8031
@philkelly8031 3 жыл бұрын
Ford cannot get it’s power to the ground at all
@jonnogan
@jonnogan Жыл бұрын
I know...ain't it a thing of beauty!
@OLLDOG
@OLLDOG 4 жыл бұрын
Unfair race Holden had a smaller engine but still one what’s that telling you
@Jakeman302
@Jakeman302 4 жыл бұрын
The ford did though... Ford had 5.0 Supercharged and Holden Had 6.0 NA with pess power...
@thispranksux7374
@thispranksux7374 4 жыл бұрын
That holdens are better cars... 😀
@thispranksux7374
@thispranksux7374 4 жыл бұрын
Tells me that you can't spell won ✌
@NoBody-ht1oh
@NoBody-ht1oh 8 жыл бұрын
He looks like Mr Bean
@II_4_R_Z_II
@II_4_R_Z_II 5 жыл бұрын
These aren’t track cars
@fuz1on237
@fuz1on237 4 жыл бұрын
shutup fuckwit
@II_4_R_Z_II
@II_4_R_Z_II 4 жыл бұрын
FUZION haha you mad
@woody__223
@woody__223 6 жыл бұрын
Bullshit think its just someone who doesn’t like ford
@theepicgamerhanna9717
@theepicgamerhanna9717 5 жыл бұрын
Holden look way better then ford
@bendavy7822
@bendavy7822 7 жыл бұрын
Lmao ford have to stick a supercharger in their xr8 now because they can't make a decent naturally aspirated engine.
@usoasouma1060
@usoasouma1060 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Davy yo do know that hsv does the same with there cars too right 😂 silly comment
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 6 жыл бұрын
ls3 gets smashed by coyote v8
@1017enrique
@1017enrique 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Davy the gt350r has an aspirated engine not like the zl1s
@fuz1on237
@fuz1on237 4 жыл бұрын
they shoudlve stuck a fucking cheesburger in the exhaust the dumb cunts
@lamatvlol9252
@lamatvlol9252 7 жыл бұрын
What happened to to the ford they use to look really good this model is fucken ugly I'd have the dunk dore
@shaktikabhan9026
@shaktikabhan9026 7 жыл бұрын
go commy
@calaiscruiser
@calaiscruiser 9 жыл бұрын
So clearly power isn't everything.. the Holden makes up so much ground with a better overall chassis than the Ford. The XR8's inferior chassis struggling to make good use of its considerable power advantage. But on the flip side, if the SS did have 30 or 40 more kw which it will have when it soon gets the 6.2L engine it will prove even more capable due to its superior chassis that will make better use of the extra power. I can't even say that Ford has dropped the ball with this car as they haven't held the ball for quite some time now to begin with.
@D800Lover
@D800Lover 9 жыл бұрын
Alex P I agree, power is not everything because you can't use it all the time. But the SS V's drive-ability will be felt all the time - not just on the track. It will be the better driving experience.
@15mikuru
@15mikuru 9 жыл бұрын
Alex P holdenfag detected
@calaiscruiser
@calaiscruiser 9 жыл бұрын
Yep im definitely gay for Holdens! Better than being a dead shit for Fords..
@chillpill4936
@chillpill4936 9 жыл бұрын
Alex P lol you're a vn commy v6 auto fucktard
@calaiscruiser
@calaiscruiser 9 жыл бұрын
Had one of them! Was a great car!
@lukeweisenberger2975
@lukeweisenberger2975 6 жыл бұрын
Ford Falcons look much better, but who ever does their interior design needs to be fired... If Ford had a nice interior it would be Ford all the way.
@nou8429
@nou8429 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares what papers say the Commodore won XD
@matthall3065
@matthall3065 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah on a slow track with lots of corners too hard for the powerful falcon to get the power down without wheel spinning typical holden cheats always do unfair comparisons
@Drivecomau
@Drivecomau 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@thispranksux7374
@thispranksux7374 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthall3065 how was it cheating...you idiot, they both done the exact same amount of laps n shit
@czechoslavakianrambo308
@czechoslavakianrambo308 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Hall that’s unfair? Bro it’s got forced induction and is 65kw more powerful than the commodore. Put it up against a 335kw club sport and it’ll smash the shitty old falcon even more
@thispranksux7374
@thispranksux7374 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthall3065 powerful falcon ???? Power down ?????? Lmfao... you should be a comedian mate 😂
@t-bonetyrell4621
@t-bonetyrell4621 8 жыл бұрын
#holden4days
@ghostbustersfan9543
@ghostbustersfan9543 7 жыл бұрын
Ford is the worst their cars r so ugly Holden is the best
@justaname1862
@justaname1862 2 жыл бұрын
Both cars...total failures...both companys now gone broke!
@Bleofuse
@Bleofuse 5 жыл бұрын
Holdens=bogans
@thispranksux7374
@thispranksux7374 4 жыл бұрын
Kazu Chan= tosser
@shaktikabhan9026
@shaktikabhan9026 7 жыл бұрын
hahaha FIX OR REPAIR DAILY....U ALWAYS BE BEHIND FROM MY COMMY AYEEEEE
@matthall3065
@matthall3065 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm I'm a ford owner and I'm not sure if I should fix it or repair it 🤔
@thispranksux7374
@thispranksux7374 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthall3065 bin it 😂
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