Ford Lightning: Offgrid Solar Battery on Wheels? Lets find out!

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[@WillProwse]

When I said "this truck can't tow", I'm referring to the slow charge speed and god awful range the moment you connect a trailer. Just search on KZbin "Ford lightning cannot tow" and you will see what I mean instantly. But yes, it can tow a short distance no problem. Correction: this model actually has a 131kWh battery. Not 110kWh, sorry about that. Table of contents: 0:00 Intro 5:06 Charging My Solar System Battery 7:37 Charging for "Free" 10:54 Needs Service.. *Does off-grid solar confuse you?* Check out my DIY friendly website for solar system packages and product recommendations, and so much more! www.mobile-solarpower.com *Join our DIY solar community!* #1 largest solar forum on the internet for beginners and professionals alike: www.diysolarforum.com Check out my best-selling, beginner-friendly 12V off-grid solar book (affiliate link): amzn.to/2Aj4dX4 If DIY is not for you, but you love solar and need an offgrid system, check out EnergyPal! They will price out a system and get your house offgrid: energypal.com/diysolar/ *My Solar Equipment Recommendations (Constantly updated! Check here first):* 12V/48V Lithium Batteries: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-batteries.html Solar System Component Directory: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solarcomponents.html Complete 48V System Blueprint: www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-complete-system-blueprint.html Plug-N-Play Systems: www.mobile-solarpower.com/full-size-systems.html Complete 48V System Kits: www.mobile-solarpower.com/complete-48v-solar-kits.html DIY Friendly Air Conditioner/ Heat Pumps: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-friendly-air-conditioners.html *My Favorite Online Stores for DIY Solar Products:* *Signature Solar* Offgrid One-Stop-Shop. Best Value 48V LiFePO4, Victron and Offgrid Specific Heat Pumps: www.signaturesolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Current Connected* SOK, Victron, Mr.Cool Heatpumps and High Quality Components: currentconnected.com/?ref=wp *Ecoflow Delta* My favorite plug-n-play solar generator: us.ecoflow.com/?aff=7 *AmpereTime* Cheapest 12V batteries around: amperetime.com/products/ampere-time-12v-100ah-lithium-lifepo4-battery?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Renogy* A classic 12V solar store that has been around for ages! renogy.sjv.io/n1VjXx *Rich Solar* Renogy's biggest competitor! Similar products, but at a better price: richsolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek *Battery Hookup* Cheap cell deals bit.ly/2mIxSqt 5% off code: diysolar *Contact Information:* I am NOT available for personal solar system consult! If you wish to contact me, this is my direct email: [e-mail] Join the forum at diysolarforum.com/ if you wish to hang out with myself and others and talk about solar *FTC Disclosure Statement and Disclaimers:* Every video includes some form of paid promotion or sponsorship. Some links on this youtube channel may be affiliate links. We may get paid if you buy something or take an action after clicking one of these. My videos are for educational purposes only. Information is subject to change/update at any time. Electricity is DANGEROUS and can kill. Be smart and use common sense :)

[@donaldgrandowicz6331]

Thank you Will someone is getting fired over this not having the truck prepared for you

[@vennic]

More like better Truck next time. That's right. I went there.

[@SetchiPaunda]

LOL, be nice to Ford...haha First on Race Day :) LOL....love your videos Will

[@GonTar_X]

Will, i Will tell you something, at least 70% of us are not here just for the off grid solar . The reason we watch your videos is because of you, being you, we love you efficiency addicted honest handsome handyman! And we would even watch you explaining why using an electric bread toaster 🥪 plugged to a solar inverter to heat your feet is more efficient than burning wood on a fireplace, or whatever picks your curiosity, you name it we will love it if you put your effort, and honesty into making it one of your video

[@JimmyCall]

Wow Will you purchased it. That's a Never Say No moment. PLEASE DO NOT WRAP IT... lol... arrr you returned it

[@bertschb]

Will, you don't EVER need to apologize for buying anything. Ignore the naysayers. I love your honest opinions on everything you mess around with.

[@JasonsLabVideos]

Agreed 100%

[@roadtriplover.]

@DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse: I DON’T feel like you need to apologize for driving a truck any more than I should feel guilty or need to apologize for the truck I drive. I use it to pull a trailer, haul garden supplies, furniture, dogs, etc, etc. It is not a waste and it’s what I can afford. I would love to have a hybrid truck, which would at least get better gas mileage, but they are WAY too expensive. A full EV truck is WAY, WAY, WAY out of the realm of what’s doable for me and most other Americans, especially since any option of towing is ridiculously hopeless, given the horrible range of the battery power while doing so. While I love the idea of using renewables and I do have home and trailer solar, plus a lithium “generator”, EV transportation is just not priced for most Americans so, please don’t judge all of us who drive trucks. Just like you, we’re doing the best we can.

[@GonTar_X]

@@JasonsLabVideos agreed 200% !

[@chuck7465]

Everyone has different needs. My 2005 Duramax has spent most of its life with either a trailer hooked to it or a snow plow hanging off the front. For me, an EV wouldn't work as a replacement. Maybe a car, but certainly not a truck. And it was -23F here yesterday, I guess the EV car wouldn't be a good idea either. The home solar stuff is cool, keep it coming!

[@Chris-hw4mq]

Will is a capitalist when he wants money and a communist when he speaks about other americans.

[@LasseMalmgren]

What i really love about your videos, Will, is that you are NOT a fan-boy. When you see a problem with ANY product you say it out lout and plain honest. Keep doing that, no matter how much people whine or try to politicize EVs or anything else. The manufacturers need to get their balls kicked until they make products that actually work. Thanks, keep it up :)

[@SoybeanAK]

Hear hear! The American consumer has gotten so complacent, expecting everything to either be nigh-flawless or too cheap to worry over, that more and more unscrupulous sellers are foisting expensive garbage onto the market. Our own fault, really.

[@brownnoise357]

Today, and for the foreseeable future, no battery Technology can match the Energy Density of Gasoline, let alone the much higher again Energy Density of Diesel. Adding Ethanol to Gasoline wrecks its energy Density ruining Fuel Economy and awrecks fuel Systems, engine zseals etc. Adding Thanol consumes far more Gasoline, 10% you lose roughly 20 % , 15% added roughly 30% and basically just wastes Gasoline while also doing serious damage , plus there's the wast of energy and crops, planting them, fertilising them, harvesting them, then fermenting and Distilling them, which Wastes Food, and what is probably best sold as Vodka, Whisky, or Bourbon. Ethanol Mix Fuel almost Broke my Fuel Budget Touring down to Spain on my Motorbike. instead of 185+ miles from a full tank of straight unleaded Gasoline, the Reserve Light came on at 120 to 125 miles over several Tanks. Then .I was able to fill up with Premium non Ethanol Gasoline, and got the Fuel mpg back, and got back within the Fuel Budget again. The stuff should be Banned imho. 👍

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

@@brownnoise357 very interested thanks for the comment

[@diane8744]

His honesty is refreshing, keep up the awesome work!

[@kylenewlin2382]

@@brownnoise357 100% correct... unfortunately, big picture efficiency of ICE vehicles sucks. ICE vehicles waste energy going through gears, revving, idling, etc . and the maintenance , while we've lived with it for a long time, is messy and wasteful all on it's own (Oil. Oil changes, filters, etc). As silly as people make it, those meme's with an electric car sitting there charging off a deiseal generator are, That's actually a reasonably efficient way to power a car. ICE are great at a optimum speed and power band... and waste like crazy every second that are not. Power delivery systems, and density of batteries need to be improved dramatically, but the leaps they've taken in the last 5 years has made EV's make so much more sense. The continence and reliability of EV's on anything short of a long road trip, has made them a better option... now if they could just, like Will said, keep it simple and make something that just works... that would be great. I'm waiting for the day we can do everything WIll said at the beginning of the video (Run your house with the giant pack in these things, time shift, etc) hopefully they figure that stuff out soon.

[@camro210]

Man, I love these kinds of videos from you, because that's exactly the attitude everyone needs to have towards ANY product. Companies will continue to suck at getting basic, everyday parts and functions completely wrong as long as consumers continue to allow them to! Duh, people.... Why would anyone want to defend companies that pull this crap? 🤦‍♂

[@williamparker8318]

Will, this video was not a waste of time. You gave us great info and the examples of real world issues of owning an EV were priceless. Good video. Cheers.

[@shawnmurphy234]

“These EV’s are going nowhere if they can’t figure out how to charge them. This is why Tesla dominates.” Truer words have never been spoken. Awesome content. Keep doing what you do! Many of us don’t comment regularly. Don’t let the negativity get to you.

[@alphonsotate2982]

Best to charge it over night on 110 slow charge is best for battery life EV are great for daily commute to work

[@mikebalentine]

@@alphonsotate2982 for some that doesn’t provide enough power for their commute. Plus it’s all about the heat not the speed in itself

[@andrewt9204]

@@mikebalentine Even charging my model 3 at 48A is only 0.2C, well within the happiness range of the battery. But I don't even do that, I charge overnight at 22A/240V and is plenty for my 120mi daily commute.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

Lol…… that’s obviously a problem with the vehicle to off grid problem, those EVs are going somewhere

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@alphonsotate2982 unfortunately that doesn’t work for everyone and in case of an emergency it’s really not that good!

[@evahsia]

Thanks for the video. I have had basically zero problems with my F-150 Lightning XLT (small battery pack), so obviously Ford has a consistency issue. I powered the house for 6 hours while the main panel was upgraded last week. Also, folks should be aware L14-30 to 14-50 adapters are readily available. One point worth noting is that the free chargers you demonstrated are all Level 2 (~7 kW), not DC fast chargers (~100 kW). So, even if they were working, it would take 3-4 hours to charge a significant amount. Of course, the casinos would be happy for you to spend 3-4 hours inside the casino while you wait. A full battery charge would take 10+ hours, which is a lot of time to invest to get free electricity (and save ~$20). But, as you noted, there are problems with the DC fast chargers too, or so it seems. I personally have driven 2000 miles round trip with no issues.

[@quazaar]

I have found some funded by our electric companies in Iowa that are free that I maintain 90kw in my lightning.

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

Thanks for adding the comment

[@jerrycampion]

Ther are no problems with Tesla fast chargers from my experience.

[@evahsia]

@@quazaar Shhh. Don't want that secret to get out. Yes, Plugshare shows 5 in Iowa by MidAmerica Energy. Most states have few if any. My state of WA shows 1 and it is defunct. Nevada (where Will is) shows none. Good luck to Iowans to keep your free stations.

[@quazaar]

@@jerrycampion I know the non-tesla charge network sucks. But I like trucks, I have had F150's for 30 years. And ford made it not just a vehicle... The charge network is about the only thing I hate. Hopefully that gets fixed or tesla actually opens it up.

[@suntz8736]

I'm totally not brown nosing, but you seriously make me laugh. Sometimes I watch your videos because your honest enthusiasm cheers me up when im feeling depressed! I've learned a lot from you for my future project next year. Thank you.

[@hitmanhite8958]

Do your thing Will, the naysayers are 2% of that audience. The other 98% will not comment, only learn from a great teacher. Thanks for your content. I have been around since the beginning. Glad to see you have done well, and completely understand and see the work you have done. You are the solar leader.

[@christurbeville7230]

Never thought I'd catch Will's "you don't know my life people" rant totally awesome

[@ParagonTheComposer]

So happy you decided to post this. I've been very interested in the tech for the F-150 L. Didn't know the battery was that big. Ignore the haters. Keep doing what you love and being generous enough to share your passion with us. ✊

[@markreed9853]

actually its a 98 kWh in the Standard Range and 131 kWh in the Extended Range.

[@ChrisDIYerOklahoma]

Nice job Will! Never apologize for your hard work and success. You have worked hard, gained viewers, sponsors, and loyal followers. You earned you income and keep up the GREAT work helping others.

[@McRootbeer]

Good video showing the real world results of something. Too many people hear the best case scenario of EVs, fall in love with the idea of them, and hate anybody who lives to have a bad experience with one in real life and tell people about it. Don't let them get you down Will.👍

[@Dingocreek]

Your honesty and the application of your knowledge is what keeps this channel at the top of my list. Keep going and don't take videos off your channel because of negative ratings.

[@Speed00007]

I just made it through the Austin, TX ice storm with zero issues. The neighborhood had no power for 3 days. I say the neighborhood because I have a 40 Kilowatt battery bank powered by solar panels. My "political" neighbors were impressed that I had power to most of my house (I have a transfer switch). I let them charge their phones, make coffee and take a hot shower in my house. They realize now that having OPTIONS when it comes to energy is SMART. Looks like they are no longer "political" about solar power systems. When SHTF no "political" party is going to come save you.

[@amieres]

Who is opposed to solar power?

[@BeezyKing99]

@@amieres people who say solar panels are bad for the environment.

[@Paul-cj1wb]

@@amieres Only the the whole fossil fuel industry, all the people that work for them, and all the politicians and news agencies they can buy. That's trillions of dollars on the line, and they spend many tens of billions every year to make sure solar and wind are delayed as long as possible. They even pay some environmentalists under the table to make sure projects are delayed or canceled. You never listen to Fox news and such news agencies? They want China to keep being the leader of it all and keep the US in the dark ages of our coming time.

[@Speed00007]

@@amieres or people who think solar power is for liberals. Not kidding! I know people who wont consider a solar power system because they are for "Democrats."

[@deepsea5107]

@@BeezyKing99 I'm a fan of solar. Speed00007s comment "They realize now that having OPTIONS when it comes to energy is SMART. Looks like they are no longer "political" about solar power systems. When SHTF no "political" party is going to come save you." is spot-on. However, the panels are no different than any other item that's man-made. If disposed of improperly, their end of lifecycle disposal can cause environmental harm.

[@zachgunderman2120]

You've been awesome to watch for years and helped me out a bunch with my solar. So, who gives a crap what others say. Your channel just needs to continue to evolve as you continue to, too.

[@invisibilianone6288]

Will, I love how honest you are. No bull💩 with you⚡😎 I have learned alot, from the information you share. I'm sure others do also. You are truly a benefit to many who are endeavoring to build proper and safe solar power. I used to work as a mechanic in automotive as well as big truck & heavy equipment industry. I have also done hazardous tree removal, landscaping, yard maintenance for homes and businesses. I've repaired many things, from broken selector knobs on digital cameras, to washers, dryers, various tools and many other items. I seem to be getting old, faster than I should. Can't do much of what I used to, so I try to learn things I CAN DO.😁 I really admire you, the person you are, the knowledge and skills you have and most important, the honesty you present .Will Prouse, you, are a good SOUL🎯😎 Keep doing the things you enjoy and love. Honestly, you are a blessing to know. Kinda restores one's faith in humankind. Look forward to all your new videos, as well as the old ones. ( nice to be able to view them again, as I forget important details, on obtaining/building an adequate solar power system, for my job as a wildland watchman😎)

[@paalkaperdal3108]

The EV growing pains you are highlighting are significant and probably a good reason for why Tesla is doing so well. I follow you channel from Norway where 80% of new cars is an EV. I have driven a Mercedes EQC for 3 years without any issues that you have experienced. It's a normal car without an ICE. The charging network is very good with plenty of DC chargers. At home I have two Type 2 chargers in the garage for use by 3 EVs for overnight charging On the road I only stop at DC chargers capable of providing minimum 100kw. There are plenty to choose from. I am sharing this to say that once one get through the growing pains the EV future can become quite bright.👍

[@GrantfromEarth]

Norway has a population of 5 million with an estimated 2.8 million vehicles. The US has a population of 350 million with an estimated 276 million vehicles. Can you imagine the US being ready for EV's only within the 10 years the government has written into law?

[@IakonaWayne]

Yeah, that’s Northern Europe, I’ve watched Bjorn travel thousands of miles across Europe charging almost effortlessly. We can’t have nice things in America that are shared private/public.

[@DerekRoss1958]

True but that's just the demand side. On the supply side, the US has Tesla and three of the world's largest car producers plus many large foreign corps, all capable of or actually producing EVs in the US. In contrast Norway has only a few tiny domestic producers and imports nearly all its EVs. So the US has the production base and the expertise to ramp EV production way up. Norway doesn't.

[@GrantfromEarth]

@@DerekRoss1958 Not just the vehicles to consider but the charging infrastructure, its reliability and the ability to supply that infrastructure with electricity. There needs to be trillions in investment made and many, many years of construction to be completed that hasn't even began and i cant see it happening fast as the financial returns are just not high enough. Imagine how many power stations will need to be built?

[@nlewis1111]

@@GrantfromEarth Sure. More people means more people working to get everything ready.

[@NeverTakeNoShortcuts]

We are still 10 years out for these to truly practical and widely accepted, I think

[@JustifyJustin]

A man who is self-made and very successful who remains humble and accessible? A unicorn gentleman. I take my hat off to you, Sir.

[@therobb5738]

I installed an 800 watt inverter into my old 2000 Chevy Blazer. It gets my by when things go bad, and runs a small space heater and air compressor. Gas guzzler gets me by a backup power generator, I have no complaints. But, what you do here, is just awesome and mind blowing. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@DavidHalko]

Yeah… I have a 3000 watt inverter which does 6000 watt peak which plugs into my 2015 Ford Focus. Runs half my house in the winter for over 24 hours easy, works great in a pinch!

[@LoganSov]

I’ve got a 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV and so far I’ve been loving it. Main downside I would say is it doesn’t have very good charging capability.. it’s done quite well in the snow also! Would recommend for someone who wants a small ev at a pretty good price

[@garyroberts3729]

+1 as a new Bolt EV owner....800 miles so far.

[@DoritosResidue]

That's my next buy. I have a fiat 500 ev. Got it as my first ev a couple years ago. Once you go ev you want another

[@TandyTerrison]

Basic Boring and it works. Cheap too. 7500 miles in 6 months on mine.

[@jober112]

I have to show some more Bolt EV love. I freaked out when it was launched in 2017. A simple cheap functional EV with range! I finally was able to buy a 2020 model with the new tax credit. America may be slow but we are almost there.

[@philrab]

People frothing at the mouth over EV’s to the degree they can’t tolerate even the fairest of criticism is becoming quite annoying. You do you Will, love your content.

[@4alphazulu]

Will, your videos are always so great! You tell it like it is whether good or bad. I love your creative thinking.

[@alexb.6800]

These realistic videos about EVs is like a breath of fresh air. Please keep going.

[@holgerlafrenz2895]

Thank you for your honest comments. From you and other reviewers of evs, it's obvious the technology has many issues to overcome. Love the channel

[@crystalworks1]

Thank you. Period. As a "newb" (though I've watched probably 100s of hours of yours and other solar content) who is looking to go energy self sufficient, your content is invaluable. I've put into service a proof of concept small system and am working on phase 2 of a solar setup now. I don't care what complainers say, information sharing is the greatest service possible. And your being rewarded for it is great. Thank you again. Please keep the content coming. I have studied and planned for my whole home system based off your reviews and info and couldn't be more grateful.

[@tbone9405]

Bought a Platinum Lightning used with 2200 miles, no have 7500 miles, really like it, no problems so far. Took on 2 trips and no problems, I guess I got a good one! Thank you for sharing your problems, great dealership to help you out of the truck.

[@vaughn6371]

Incredible amounts of solar info found on this channel. I also like how he just tells it like it is like it or not.

[@gbthecamper458]

Wil, I was really excited to see you actually bought a Ford E150 as I knew you would be the one to show us what the alternative capabilities of the vehicle has aside from driving. You are the best on the internet in providing us with honest and reliable information on energy products available to consumers. Well done young man.

[@BrandonIT1337]

For the record - thank you for deciding to release this video. This was extremely informative, eye-opening, and entertaining.

[@nikkicrouse6713]

I enjoyed this video more than what I was expecting when I clicked on it. I knew there just had to be normal people somewhere on KZbin and finally found one. Thank you for just being you.

[@mdog4635]

Very sorry this happened to you. Maybe a Lemon. Have had my lightning since September. No issues. Coming from a 2018 f150, I can say there's no going back for me. Was really excited for many more lightning videos to come!

[@BlueCollarEV]

Same here I got mine at the end of September and have 14k miles on it now. I did have a 2015 2.7L F150 and I can't go back, besides the power this rides so much better.

[@christopherhiemstra1070]

Same here. I have had the lariat for two months. 4000 km, zero issues. No going back. I was looking forward to watching you experiment. Maybe later.

[@doppler3237]

Guess I'm the black sheep I only have a powerboost but I tow a fifth wheel a lot

[@augustinegordon269]

Same here ,I've had my LARIAT lightning since August 22, no problems it got me threw a 17 hour power outage during that blizzard during Christmas break. I say try again.

[@gussiegus4943]

That had to have been frustrating! I’m thankful for my 1998 Tacoma. It only gets 18 mpg, but it always works, has no bells or whistles, and can tow most everything I need. Someday I want an EV, especially an EV truck, but your experiences help me to be patient while the automakers work out all the issues. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and insights, and thanks for ignoring the viewers with the annoying posts! There’s a whole lot more of us who see the value of your tests than there are those who just like to stir up trouble. Please keep buying whatever you find interesting. I love getting to tag along via KZbin!

[@rjcontruction1406]

Have a 98 4runner 2.7- 5 speed daily driver just got me home in one hell of a snowstorm yet again, never lets me down.

[@stldigitalmemories]

My 2000 Tundra still works great.

[@somedayblue9197]

I know a guy that has a Rivian truck and is happy with it. However, your point on price is spot on - the price of these trucks is more than the median household income in the US. They are toys for the rich, not transportation for your typical person.

[@malibudan]

My brother purchased the Ford Maverick and Loves it. No problems in the first 6 months 50 plus mpg

[@mr.e7022]

Used to be "Ford = Found On Roadside Dead" now it will be "Found On Roadside Discharged" Good luck Will with this truck. I run a Dodge 2500 hemi, never had a problem, 126k miles and still going strong. She'll pull 10000 pounds at 65 miles an hour while getting 9 mpg for about 400 miles.

[@WillProwse]

Please watch the whole video 😂

[@mr.e7022]

@@WillProwse I did, sorry to jump the gun. Sad you had to take it back. I own ford stock so I am cheering for them. I agree cars have gotten so complex with all the add ons. All I want is electric windows, locks and a USB port for phone charging. We will never have a built in GPS. Couldn't get the dealer to update the maps in our Highlander. I don't need lane awareness or self driving or remote start. Keep up the good work Will, really enjoy your channel. Did install solar on our boat.

[@cheekybastard99]

That's a weird flex. Remember this guy's face everytime you drop 120 in disel in it.

[@norm_sueb122]

Thanks for the video! Ignore the whiners!

[@MrMasterSpam]

I just love your videos. Not only are they informative but you add a lot of fun to them.

[@NeroAD64]

I apricate your honesty on everything you show us. Thanks for keeping it real. I'll be using your info on my own solar system build one of these days soon. Thanks,

[@ivanbuckingham2302]

Great video. If I can ever afford an electric car it would take all my money to pay for it so these issues would be extremely stressful. Being subscribed to your channel will keep me up to date on the progress of solar and EV technology so that I don't waste my hard to come by money. Thanks for all the work you put into your channel Will.

[@580guru]

Will, sorry for any part my comments might have played in you giving the Lightning another look-- but it did make for a very entertaining video...right? Having been driving Bolts since 2017 and now have their 2023 EUV as part of their battery recall Swap of Collateral deal they offered me. Couldn't be happier and Never had any issues with any of them. I certainly can relate to the sad state of affairs when it comes to ChargePoint and Electrify America not maintaining their network chargers. Although I mostly charge from solar at home I've been able to fast charge for free a half dozen times and it's like hitting a jackpot at Vegas😃 OH, as part of the Bolt EUV swap I picked up $500 free charging credit because I already had a level 2 charger at home. Maybe I'll head over to Vegas and meet up with you? You keep being you and I'll keep watching and enjoying 😍

[@glockman9c]

You went from homeless to 800K subscribers. You help people every day. Anyone criticizing you is ignorant or jealous or both. Keep your head up!

[@OutOfOfficeCamping]

We always ❤️ when you get on a rant and tell it like it is! Makes us laugh every time! Don't stop being you. We appreciate your sincere honesty.

[@RGP_WA]

Thank you Will for a real world review! Will be interesting to see how many years it will take to iron out the quality issues of EV hardware and software. I will be a late adopter! Love my gasser F-150.

[@doppler3237]

I have a powerboost and have had zero issues 28 mpg 7.2 KW charger and 5.3 0- 60

[@LiquidTurbo]

Living the dream. Awesome video! And cool concept. Hopefully more EVs allow this useful feature.

[@rvbjr]

There are a lot of people who are jealous of those who have the things they want. I applaud anyone who can work and have what they need (or want) without being a slave to a bank or mundane job. Please keep doing what you are doing, I enjoy your honesty and content. Like you, I would rather be broke without debt than have a lot of meaningless stuff and owe my soul to an institution whose goal is to enslave the people.

[@AddictOfLearning]

Super happy you posted this!

[@CaptBill69]

Awesome Intro, especially the EV Battery back to Home Solar Battery ability... after the bugs get ironed out. I went from exited to frustrated too. The Lessons are valuable including to the Ford Dealer and Manufacturer. I will be all eyes and ears for your next clip on this Ford Experiment. Be interesting if Ford can explain what's going on, and step up to the plate, ... as their budding EV reputation is on the line.

[@superdave5079]

You should look at the base model Chevy Bolt EUV. I’ve had a 2023 since it came out first one to receive it from my dealer because all I wanted was the base. Honestly its a great commuter and it just works. Keep it simple.

[@stevemucha2149]

Thankyou Will. I always appreciate your honest and real videos. You motivated me to set up solar in my home using your video each step of the way. Eg4 with server rack from Signature Solar and used panels from Santan Solar. Thanks again:)

[@TheShuey1234]

Been watching your videos since you had 3.5k subs. Your doing great. Stay honest stay positive. We know why we watch your content.

[@JustinKingOffroad]

suddenly all the free chargers are no longer free haha! brilliant idea and video!

[@garyroberts3729]

I love your enthusiastic and honest videos! Thanks man! I got a 2022 Chevy Bolt with 800 miles on it, knock-on-wood, I think it might be exactly what you are talking about, a basic EV that seems to work. And, I realize that I am kind of ignoring the battery issues in earlier models. Fingers crossed!

[@jimnunally1]

I second that. I had two of the battery recall Bolts, now have a 2022 Bolt EUV and it is like a Prius in simplicity, that is why I bought it. I drove a Tesla Model 3 then went to Chevy and drove a Bolt, I liked it immediately. It is more like the typical driving experience. Both my previous Bolts were sold back to GM. Hats off to them for doing the right thing with the recall. There are drawbacks with the Bolt, but in general a better basic EV. I really like mine.

[@w7don]

In 2020, I bought a 2017 Bolt (base model + fast charger) with 45,000 miles on it. GM recalled my car's battery and installed a brand new, higher capacity battery in 2022. No issues except for the hassle of getting the recall done in a timely manner. I may keep the car for another 8 years or more. As a ham radio operator, I love having a 66 kWh battery on wheels :)

[@jober112]

@@jimnunally1 I purchased one of the buyback Bolts this year. They replaced the battery pack and installed a control module, plus an extra 1 year warranty. 1000 miles and no issues. With 3PMS tires i drove across Pennsylvania in the winter and had a blast! GM just earned a lifetime customer!

[@ted1907]

Your best youtube article EVER. Your rants are SO helpful. Thank You!!

[@DanburyDK]

I love watching you build and play with stuff.

[@JNHEscapes]

You and I could be very good friends. Amen brother…to everything you said. I feel and think the exact same way and it’s refreshing to hear someone else think the same way. I often feel I’m the one with the problem when everyone around me seems to live in some weird virtual world that is based purely on nothing and keeping them broke. I too have plenty of money and, yet, the things people assume or say to me about things just make me want to be a recluse. I would rather work on things and build things than talk to people! Great videos…

[@JNHEscapes]

I would be very concerned about plugging anything into a public charger. To me you’re just asking for it. Who’s to say their power, or system config is ok or would not hurt the car? If they cannot keep them working or their industrial design is so poor to start they cannot possibly truly control what they’re sending to the vehicle. Way too many variables and if you think EV is a good solution when mass implemented you’re just a moron. Imagine everybody fighting for a charger at Kroger!! Around here you’d end up dead. This entire EV trend is a joke and I would much rather have an old 86 chevy 4x4 that will run and crank and I can fix than deal with this bs. Watching you deal with it though is hilarious! I would be much more harsh and using adult language lol!

[@WillProwse]

Man I appreciate your comment more than I can type here. It's wild when people online make strange assumptions based on the money and other small details of ones life. And yeah, working on things and building stuff is the best. Glad you feel the same way. Honestly it makes me want to stop making these videos and hide in my workshop some days. Just gotta keep working if we know it can help others.

[@JNHEscapes]

@@WillProwse I started my tech business in High School in 1995…I’m semi-retired (have a few clients left) and I can tell you I have pretty much moved from social businessman to engineer recluse. I find it sad most days, but people just have no clue and it can be quite nauseating. If we were neighbors the things we could do! Keep going and keep making videos…they’re one of the few things I look forward to and believe to still be genuine. Also, I’m glad you got your money back. I have owned more than 200 cars and used to deal exotics on the side for fun. Nothing you buy past really 2010 will survive or is worth the money. All cheap junk. I drive a 2010 wrangler and will forever! Common sense seems to have disappeared in today’s society and your comment about having to download the app for a “free” service is the type of crap that makes me want to blow stuff up. My entire life has been built around tech and I absolutely believe it will be the end of our species. Now I’m ranting…lol! This video cracked me up…I found myself yelling at the tv…

[@santaclause2875]

@@JNHEscapes Great comments, James. Just learning the 'EV' world. Need to find out more about 'ES's' , Electric Sleighs. Question; who's paying for all this 'free' electric power to charge all these EV's ? I like 'free stuff'. Free electricity, that's pretty neat.

[@hideawayhomesllc5103]

Will, you must have purchased a new home since I last watched you, because you now have a garage with a 12-14 foot door. Good for you! Obviously honesty works for some people. I was almost rolling on the floor laughing at this video with your comments on quality of current EVs and charging stations and what the usual press presents to us.

[@jimoray3]

You’re amazing Will. Thank you for your honesty and integrity. These companies would do well to have you as a paid consultant to improve their deliverables. Obviously, they fail and you are not married to failures. Touché

[@jimw1615]

Your closing thought describes why I haven't purchased an electric automobile. I am just looking for a straight-forward auto to drive powered by an electric battery. I don't want one with all the "bells and whistles" that just add to the possibility of another system failure on the car. Keep it simple and reliable and that will get my attention and spark my interest. Thanks for the great video.

[@_MrTV]

I really think that work vans are gonna be the best overall usage of electric over trucks mainly because it’s more about internal payload, then towing. But I think the electric trucks are great for a general contractor, so long as it’s not a lot of towing.

[@rexford71]

If you’d like to build something maybe look into converting a gas vehicle to ev🤷🏻‍♂️ there’s a kit for older Jeeps that I’d like to see a review on

[@marciofjunior]

What a rollercoaster of a video, I love it!

[@jimbarnes6979]

I enjoy your honesty. I had been considering a Lightning. I will wait.

[@mariusverwey2125]

Hi bud, am 55 and have been watching your channel since the beginning. Am an electrical technician for a large company. The way you taught yourself and the how you then present the facts is for me a privilege to watch. You are the same as me. I have money and goods, but it is the thrill of building and creating, that does it for me. I should start a KZbin channel, but...no looks and no time. When I have time, I build something. And skill is only gained when you do it yourself. Am from South Africa. The solar craze is just starting here.....we always are about 10 years behind. Pity that your reviews doesn't count around here much. Availability is the problem. Wanna come visit¿ The dollar is worth a lot here, you can start a good solar business. Just a thought.

[@dr.russnutritionalpsycholo4992]

Will, you are not wrong about the electric trucks. They are not yet ready for "prime time" in my view. I think electric vehicles (trucks in particular) have great potential, but as someone who tows a 4500lbs trailer, they just have too many limitations. First, the charging stations (as you point out) either don't work, take too long to charge or simply are not available in many rural locations. Second, the advertised mileage range is considerably less when hauling or towing. I estimate a Ford Lightning would only get 150-200 miles maximum on a full charge when towing and the places I go (National Forests, NP, etc.) have little or no options for recharging (maybe an RV electric outlet which would take 4-5 days to recharge the Lightning) - meaning I wouldn't even be able to make it home unless I was camping for at least a week. The range for these electric trucks needs to increase by a factor of three (improved battery technology) and there needs to be many more fast charging stations (working, of course) across the country. For now, I will continue to drive my 20+ year old Ford F-150 until I absolutely need to replace it, and unless the electric improves significantly I would probably consider a hybrid.

[@brita654]

as a painter for many years its so funny that this truck cant tow but i have worked with so many contractors that seriously never towed so that wouldnt matter lol. the truck is just symbolic for alot of guys

[@doppler3237]

You would not be a good candidate nor would I. I bought the hybrid f 150 but most never do and could just charge at home

[@Huskyresqr]

i love your refreshingly honest and unedited stream-of-consciousness reviews and commentary

[@jimdaly5077]

Hi I have just discovered your channel,watched the 2 most recent videos enjoyed both very much, will be looking back through previous ones but so far so good thank you. 👍🌞🐝

[@SmithOffGrid]

I loved your first video about why electric trucks don't make sense, totally agree with all your points. When I found out they can't tow I knew they wouldn't be for me. If it can't do one of the most basic truck activities, what's the point?? Trucks are tools. Loved this video, was laughing the whole time. And I totally agree, why can't they just make a boring practical EV? I've always thought that a minivan would be perfect. You wouldn't be using it to tow. You can bring around a bunch of people and they're great for carrying large objects when you fold the seats down. Plus if you are taking a longer road trip your kids would need you to stop to pee more frequently than you'd need to charge anyways. Please, please manufacturers make a boring EV minivan!

[@WillProwse]

Agreed about everything you said Spencer! And especially agree about electric minivan. That would be incredible and those tow really nicely too. I had a few minivans I would use for work and they were fantastic. A electric minivan would be killer!

[@werner.x]

Why can't this truck tow? Cannot see a technical reason, besides limited range.

[@stevepriority4219]

@@werner.x They can tow, but the issue with limited range is amplified when find out you can't pull into a charging station with something in tow. So you can only tow a small distance total. You're never going to tow something 500 miles simply because you can't stop and charge while towing.

[@werner.x]

@@stevepriority4219 Oh, now i see. Thanks. So - if they really ban combustion engines as planned in some countries, even more problems ahead. At least for the few who aren't rich enough by then.

[@davidferris4563]

The perfect EV ( at least for me) is my 2017 Gen 2 Chevrolet Volt. It has room to carry a fair amount of stuff. Yes it has a small battery but I get 55-60 miles out of it. In 2022 I spent less than $165 for gas. I don't bother looking for a charger when on a trip because it's easier just to run the gas motor then. For going to work or shopping ECT seldom ( maybe 2x a year do I run out of battery before I get home). Biggest complaint I have is if you stop somewhere and leave the phone in the car the Android Auto is sometimes buggy trying to reconnect when you start the car up again. I can deal with that. I literally have had no problems with the car in the 5 years I've owned it.

[@KLondike5]

Nice to hear. I've been waiting a few years for the pricing to hit my sweet spot. With the used clean vehicle rebate just coming out, I intend to finally buy a 2017-19. Do you happen to know the real cargo storage space? The official numbers only seem to measure the spot under the rear partition. I haven't found a close one for sale to measure with the rear seats down area too.

[@davidferris4563]

@@KLondike5 I haven't measured it but with the fabric cargo net down and the back seats folded. I can get all the timing & scoring gear in for SCCA road racing with room to spare. I have everything in cases so it's easier to take into the tower but it does take more room to pack. I have a 5 shelf rack in the basement to store the stuff in the off season and everything on the shelfs fits in the car. I average year-round $0.042 cents per mile for gas and electric combined. My electric averages $0.19 per kWh total with taxes,

[@KLondike5]

@@marcol869 My favorite cars are the ones that don't drain my pockets. I am quite utility driven. But I do buy a raffle ticket every year for a Tesla drawing.

[@KLondike5]

@@davidferris4563 Another question if you would. Is there a menu that tracks electric & engine time? I'd read posts on the 1st Gen that OnStar does have that data or it might be in the ODBii for those.

[@RichardJ-kq7og]

"I can live on the streets with nothing" he said. Keep up the amazing work your an inspiration! Do what you love!

[@joseescabi]

Will, I have a Mini Cooper Electric I really like it, it’s exactly what you were saying, it’s just an electric car. It doesn’t have the fancy bells and whistles like an output inverter or a big battery, but it works and I haven’t had any issues.

[@mirandahw]

I'd love to see you load up the truck bed with batteries and see how much energy storage you can put on wheels & charge for free. EDIT: RIP, nevermind. Maybe on a different vehicle...

[@WillProwse]

Yeah it's gone 😂

[@rkeele82]

HA HA, I guessed right! Thank you so much for doing this video!

[@WillProwse]

😂😂

[@LonesomeElk]

Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@daveyboy8907]

I love the fact that you dont care about money..I have watched you for years Will and witjout you my first build wouldn't have been possible..Keep on keeping it real.

[@JohninTucson]

Big Bad Will Prowse, you never cease to amaze us with all of the solar equipment and Lithium battery banks that you experiment with. And you aren't just spewing a lot of flowery bullshit to your viewers when it comes down to the nuts and bolts of whatever piece of equipment you are bench testing, unlike the KZbinrs that will spend 25 minutes talking about the beautiful colors and pretty blinking lights of a basic 'solar generator' while ignoring it's flaws or limited usability or just plain rotten workmanship with no regard to quality whatsoever. On a more positive note, I'd like to say that you are head and shoulders above any other KZbin channel that labels itself as Solar systems and battery bank experts. You always put your $$$ and your real world experience to work on your test bench in front of the camera for all of us to experience at the same time that you do. You are living the kind of Green' life that so many of us are only now beginning to fold into our own lives. You are showing the world that YES, anyone can follow in your footsteps and live Off Grid without sacrificing A/C - Heat (Mini-split Heat pump), coffee makers, Residential fridge, a Microwave oven, etc. not to mention the ability to charge up your EV's from your terrific solar/Lithium system. I remember when you began this journey not so many years ago with your smaller system(s) for your vans and then bigger systems as you got larger RV's and so on and now you have 200 KW hours of batteries for energy storage, a large amount of solar panels and enough peripheral solar equipment like MPPTs, Inverters/Chargers and more to build a dozen solar/battery systems of varying sizes if you want to. Your continued evolution of this channel and your Solar website is helping a great many of us to realize our own dreams of living free from the electrical grid, from small portable systems to full RV systems like mine, up to running an entire large home off the power of the sun! It's in large part because of you and this YT channel, that I found the courage to build my own relatively large solar system for my 34 foot class A RV. As long as old Sol is shining, I can run everything in my RV for a full 24 hours on my LiFePo4 battery pack (Ten 100 ah Battleborn 12 volt batteries in parallel). My Pioneer Mini-split heat pump is really energy efficient along with my residential Fridge, but I also can use my coffee maker and microwave without worrying about running out of power...Man, this is an AWESOME way to live life! Sorry about the long comment, but I always get amped up when I watch any of your videos because I find them to be motivating and so positive. Keep up the great work Will, your influence in this field is important for all of us to be a part of. Thank you for that...

[@WillProwse]

Thanks 😁😁 and it's great to hear your system is running! I remember your past comments when you were in the planning stages some years back. Glad I can help 😁

[@tubevideoguy762]

​​​​@@WillProwseSo people are remarking that you were homeless but are now too wealthy and successful?Thats supposed to be a GOOD thing showing people can better their life.

[@brita654]

@@tubevideoguy762 good reply. the american dream. and he uses his knowledge and finance to bring the masses (me)up to date on new tech. and has certainly influenced a company or two to improve their approaches. learning this stuff has been and continues to be one of my passions

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

Great comment thank you

[@VinceBadovinatz88]

@@tubevideoguy762 I never knew will was homeless. I was for a couple years in 92 myself

[@dunningkruger106]

Sad to see that the Lightning did not work out - I was not expecting this video after seeing your last video regarding EV trucks. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I too was looking at the lightning as a type of powerwall on wheels. But, you have to push to start, then turn on the "Pro Power OnBoard" to use it. Does that mean, someone can just get in the truck and drive off with it, if you left it unattended while powering something?

[@xsterawesome]

I had my lightning Lariat extended range since September of last year (I bought mine brand new) I don't know if you just got a lemon but I've had zero issues with mine other than when I first got it blue Cruise hands-free wouldn't work until I disconnected the battery and reconnected it, and dealing with Electrify America (specifically the one in Montgomery Alabama, other EA stations wouldn't take my credits (sometimes free charging sometimes I have to pay)). I got over 8,300 miles on, several road trips, towed a 6,000 lb trailer, and hauled a ton (I'm pretty sure I exceeded the maximum payload on a few road trips) Ford build quality has always been trash, but this is my 7th vehicle and the best vehicle I've ever owned.

[@nickgaston8267]

Love the video, keep being honest and help show the good with the bad. Learning a lot, keep the videos coming!

[@RamblinBobReviews]

Thank you for all your videos, We have learned a ton from you Will. We sent you a email to you but you might not have seen it. THANK YOU AGAIN :)

[@annavariumful]

Hi William, if you want something "basic, boring and that works" see if you can find a Mitsubishi i-MiEV. They are GREAT little EV's. I've had an Australian delivered 2010 model for two years now, and they are a fabulous, everyday runabout, even for a 6'3" overweight bloke. The original battery pack lasted 12 years, and I've just upgraded from the 16 kWh to the aftermarket 28 kWh pack supplied by OZ Electric Vehicles. See if you can find one! I would love to see your opinion of it!

[@WillProwse]

Oh interesting, I'll have to check those out

[@annavariumful]

@@WillProwse I hope you can! It would be fun to see your take on these GREAT, little, totally practical, EV's :)

[@BlueCollarEV]

I have a 2022 Lightning with 14k miles. The ground fault issue with the pro power is when it detects the neutral and ground bonded in the panel. I had to remove the ground wire connection on the load end of my back feed cable and it was able to power my house. Sorry you had a rough time, I have one of the last 2022 builds so I guess they got most of the problems worked out. Still love the channel. I would send you the pro power charger to use in a video but all it does is let you access the 400vdc battery to power your own 9.6kW inverter.

[@cottsak]

You’re doing a good thing bro by sharing these details and keeping it real! 💪

[@HOBOTECH]

January: "Electric trucks are stupid!" February: Buys electric truck... Only you can get away with it, Will... 😆

[@WillProwse]

😂😂

[@Browneye2566]

You forgot to add - Day after he buys the truck: "Electric trucks are still stupid".

[@brita654]

@@Browneye2566 lol....ive traveled the same road with various items.......ehem....not 100k trucks mind you .....but i could envision a scenario where i love the thought of that thing so much that i get one anyway....Yours Truly, Out Of My Mind For Tech

[@Bum_Hip]

I have only had my Hyundai Ioniq 5 for a few months now, but so far I absolutely love it. Zero issues… knock wood!

[@johnmorton7577]

Love all of your videos you are the only solar / renewable energy person I trust

[@fu4616]

Thank you for your 'real world' honesty.

[@farmingmaine]

I love it. Glad you played with the Ford. People need to know just how far away the Electric Vehicle is from replacing the gas engine. Keep up the good work and forget about the complainers. It is not easy being a man of science. You are doing all the hard work while we lean on the arm rest. Cheers.

[@tfcooks]

The only thing I don't like about this idea is that they will stop giving free charging if the idea catches on. Other than that "More Power To You" 😉

[@Farmnflyin]

As soon aw they convince half the population to get EVs, they will remove free charging and double the cost of power…. The fuel taxes pay to maintain the highways…. Who’s going to pay for that

[@brita654]

@@Farmnflyin solar is the answer to hi taxed energy. hopefully in the coming years batteries and solar panels will improve. at any rate its not just about the benjamins.....there is the climate also.....the whole sector needs improvement but we are off to a start

[@robertsmith2956]

Charging is free. Connector to hook to charge it is extra.

[@robertsmith2956]

@@Farmnflyin The highway trust fund has plenty of money. LOL They don't maintain them now. How will anyone notice?

[@mwmentor]

Thanks Will for yet another brilliant video. I really love your candor, and the way in which nothing is to holy to criticize. Be well and never allow yourself to be silenced by people of contrary opinion. Follow your heart (and your passion), and remain true to yourself. Ciao! 👍😄❤

[@omarsegura2847]

That’s a good attitude. Stay positive! Nice truck!!

[@wileymarm0t]

Superb video! It really helps me see the prospects of an EV pickup! Thank you! Seeing your experience with all the broken charging stations made me think two things, 1) too coincidental so many are “broken” that it makes me think that they are being sabotaged. To support this, think of how many times anti-EVers roll coal on EVs. 2) perhaps there is a flaw in manufacturing these charging stations, which really reflects poorly on the manufacturer and in my mind a really half-a$$ effort to support EVs in the long run, especially given the poor quality of the app. In the end, I think you did the right thing returning the pickup. So many issues for so much cash! Lucky you have an awesome dealer to work with. Not many will do the right thing for a dissatisfied customer.

[@mpedrozax1]

To watch a different but similar experience, search for TheStradman, he's a super car youtuber and he recently posted his recent trip to MOAB, UT in his Hummer EV. Basically he had similar but more expensive problem with broken charge stations but eventually spent around $1000 getting home to Salt Lake City, UT. In the end, he towed his SUV to another city that through leap frogging from charge stations and process of elimination found a working quick charge station, spent $90 to charge just enough power to get home.

[@737smartin]

They're not being sabotaged...they're just trash. I've experienced Tesla's HORRIBLE customer service, but their product and features are SO unmatched...they have no rival. I've bought three, and came away disappointed with the customer service every time. Their product is just so much better than anything else...I will go back, and so will Will P. 🤷

[@robertsmith2956]

I bet it was kamala trying to plug one in for a photo op again. I've been waiting 4 months now for my congressman to send me the specs so I can put a charge plug on my motorcycle. Might as well make it able to plug into the chargers biden is forcing me to pay for.

[@SnifferSock]

Nah, they were probably installed with grant money that has nothing set aside for repairs.

[@Ryan-ff2db]

Well, I hope the lightning works well for you but I did a job for homeowner that purchased one and he's had the screen replaced twice already and had it shut off on the freeway requiring a tow and battery replacement. He only had the truck a few months and wasn't particularly happy about it. I own a 2021 F-450 cab-over diesel with 38,000 miles on and it's had 7 or 8 things ranging from door locks to turbo actuator to driver window rolling down spontaneously and has been in the shop 3 times. I used to like Ford but man their quality is getting awful. Had a 2008 F-450 that was the worst vehicle I have ever owned.

[@WillProwse]

Please watch the video

[@Ryan-ff2db]

@@WillProwse I apologize, I only watched the first half of your video before I commented. I guess the truck is truly awful. Glad you got your money back. I do watch all your videos and appreciate your content.

[@rodneyross5282]

Will, you honesty is awesome. You said a mouth full when you said electric vehicles are not practical. Now if the people in power, i.e. state governors, and D.C. could only understand this. Have a great week. God bless in all you do.

[@ronbridegroom8428]

I greatly appreciate your honesty versus other KZbinrs who review and sell the products they review.

[@MrMasterboard]

We have 2 Lightning's with a towing package and they work fine up to ~7000 Lbs. Dont know why you think they can't tow? We also had the same error with one of our trucks and a firmware reset was al it needed. I was not happy with it but we got reimbursed for lost income (we use them for our company). It seems that all products are made as cheaply and quickly as possible without any Q&A these days. Anyways, nice video and thanks for all the info!

[@WillProwse]

How far do you tow? Just saw a ton of videos on KZbin of people towing and their experiences were pretty bad. Oh you had the same error? Good to know it was fixed with firmware upgrade. And yes a lot of low quality stuff these days. I would imagine they would sort this stuff out before selling them.

[@MrMasterboard]

@@WillProwse We get about 120 Miles out of the battery if we pull a large caravan combi's (up to 7000 Lbs) and about 140 Miles with the ~5500 Lbs trailer with skid-steer. Note that this is at an average of 64 Mph. Even with the lower mileage and having to charge on the way back we save about 1/2 of our normal overhead costs on the cars. I really hope you find a nice car that fits your needs!

[@vhfgamer]

Hey Will If you're really into building things as you say, and you don't need fancy things to be happy, then why don't you build your own EV? Get a used car in decent shape, and build whatever you want. There are kits that will drop right into standard transmissions, like for example the VW bug. It'd let you build things, while also letting you have an EV exactly how you want it. Make it as simple or fancy as you want.

[@bc-guy852]

I love your rants Will. Please keep doing you.

[@alkiou3613]

I really love the honesty on these videos.