Ford Out Powers the Power Wagon! Meet the New 2020 Ford Tremor Off-Road Super Duty

( www.TFLtruck.com ) The new 2020 Ford Super Duty Tremor off-road package arrives to challenge the Ram Power Wagon to the HD off-road truck crown. The Tremor is available with a diesel and in many F-250 and F-350 trims!
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[@IndependantResearch]

As a Power Wagon owner myself, and bored at the moment, here are my thoughts to the new competition: - I immediately bolted on better 35" wheel/tire setup straight onto the Power Wagon and sold the factory wheel/tires to offset the upgrade and viola...all fixed. You can probably bolt on 37" to the Ford without too many issues I would imagine. - Anyone that bought a Power Wagon for towing capability or a diesel engine missed the point of the trucks design and capabilities/limitations. The towing capacity has nothing to do with the motor as the biased reviewer claims, it is due to an off-road centered suspension setup. - Any competition is welcomed in the market as it does force upgrades, revisions, and price reductions for all manufacturers. - Power Wagon and Raptor are not direct competitors aside from being off-road specific vehicles. Power Wagon will go everywhere a Raptor will go, just slower...a Raptor will not go everywhere a Power Wagon will go no matter what button you press on the dash. I surmise that will be the same we see here with the Tremor, similar to comparing the Rebel to the Raptor...they don't compete on equal footing. - The ground clearance under the rear differentials are likely to be similar in both trucks, you cannot just shrink that stuff down without losing the strength needed for these big trucks...especially towing 20k. - A massive, heavy diesel engine in an off-road truck right over the front axle? If you only ever intend to drive on solid terrain you shouldn't have too many issues...head out to Galveston Island any given weekend and see all the lifted diesel trucks with the front ends digging into the sand looking for a shortcut to China. - A truck that can tow over 20k will not have a suspension that can compete with the Power Wagon, just as a Power Wagon with it's off-road setup will never compete against a towing focused HD. The two activities are so far out from each other they cancel each other out. Given the focused nature of the Power Wagon, it can still tow a respectable amount...easily handles my 35' travel trailer. The Tremor will tow a lot and be respectable off-road. - Tire size and winches can be added and changed to fit your needs, so not really a limitation...but once you add 35" tires, the Power Wagon probably has the same approach angle and if you added a winch to the Ford you have the same ability to rescue yourself. - Without the articulation, it physically cannot outmatch the Power Wagon. Without the locking differential up front, it depends on a computer to try and find traction between the front tires. - A couple of skid plates does not equal the amount of armor underneath the Power Wagon. - The Fords shocks are possibly better, but wont know until testing...Power Wagon shocks have only ever let me down on washboard dirt roads...but that is true on most suspensions. - Both have dumb stickers, only difference is the Power Wagon sticker is backed up with real world proof of concept so far. While competition is good in the segment, the reviewer expecting this to beat the Power Wagon based on the released information from Ford is pure bias. I think each manufacturer should offer a Power Wagon-type truck for their loyal customers, but this attempt looks like a few basic off-road components slapped on to create a quick entry to the market and fire a shot across Rams bow for the future. This truck does have a role to fill and that is towing your toys across some brutal terrain to go play and have some fun with it as well while your there if your trailer can handle it. However, just like a Power Wagon cannot go off-road like a Jeep, expect the Tremor to not go off-road like a Power Wagon.

[@nickers1889]

IndependantResearch this has to be a joke.

[@jordangraf673]

@@nickers1889 where's the joke? He had a well-written and thought out comment and you have a one line reply that doesn't address any of it.

[@big12playsdefense24]

I think your spot on, heavy ford bias by this channel is noticeable in most of their videos.

[@sergeantproductions5526]

IndependantResearch I agree and disagree about different things but the main thing was when you spoke about the raptor and how the power wagon can do whatever a raptor can it’s not true. Power wagons don’t have to suspension for high-speed desert running (what the raptor was made for) and it to heavy to try to do it. The raptor is a Trophy truck kind of truck the power wagon is a mostly all around kind of truck

[@IndependantResearch]

@@sergeantproductions5526 I agree, that is why I phrased it that the PW will go everywhere a Raptor can, just slower. My comparison was solely terrain types, not speed.

[@khakiswag]

Why are people commenting about it not being as capable off road when they haven’t driven it yet? How do you know? No locking front differential but the same LSD front differential as the Raptor which has proven it’s more than capable. And while there are no disconnecting sway bar Ford’s monobeam front suspension system traditionally has excellent articulation. Point is until they go head to head I’m going to reserve judgment.

[@nm-qt2hb]

Well said. Most if not all of these posts are from people that will never buy any of these trucks anyway. I'll take a LSD front diff any day. 👍

[@eriet1]

@@nm-qt2hbmost people knockin the ford probably don't have a job or a truck

[@coltonjacobs5383]

1969torino or common sense

[@chrisneuhaus7188]

Nailed it! You put a capable off-roader in the seat of any decent 4x4 and they'll school all these big mouth, all blow and no show wanabe's. Many give themselves away immediately by focusing on the diesel option or the winch and locker topic. Diesels are for hauling loads down the road, not crawling off road. And if no winch is a deal breaker, they probably aren't smart enough to be off road anyway. And if Ford put one on the truck they wouldn't like the brand offered! ;-)

[@spengg_shell]

Take this from a GM fanboy: GM left their legs open with the at4 package and Ford just kicked them in the nuts

[@BlueDually4x4]

I've always kind of felt Chevy lets down their supporters with no good off road package. Its always been just a skid plat, Rancho shocks and some decals and maybe a rear locker.

[@spengg_shell]

@@BlueDually4x4 not to mention that the Rancho shocks are a joke

[@289pinto]

The Colorado's and smaller trucks always seem to have had the cool off road features when it comes to GM. Full sizes badges and appearance stuff mostly.

[@GTFORDMAN]

the Ford "highboy" is back!

[@Michael_ryan91]

I dont like the name. I think it would be cool if they called it highboy instead. its a badass truck tho.

[@josenoyola9851]

The high boy was in a class in all its own 😂 they need portal axles to be close to what the high boy had

[@GTFORDMAN]

@@josenoyola9851 this is the closest thing Ford has had in a very long time to a HD off road rig though

[@magdump7380]

They should have called it the Highboy. Much better than Tremor.

[@Johnysoutherner]

It never was Ford's term but that of the consumer. That's said, I'm all for this trucks consumer renaming once again.

[@MotorHolmes]

It’s not the engine that reduces the Power Wagon’s towing capacity-its the suspension. You don’t want a stiff, non-compliant suspension for rock crawling. It’s a compromise. If you want the best Offroad capability, you need to reduce payload so you can create flexier springs. That’s why (in addition to the lack of disconnectable swaybar) that the Ford does so poorly in RTI.

[@jamesavery6671]

Yep but dumb bastards will still buy it thinking she's the end all be all lol

[@billyunderwood7221]

This particular compromise will be appealing to a larger group of people I think. If you're going to pay that much for a truck it makes more sense to have all the payload and towing capability along with decent offroad capability. Ford will sell way more of these than Fiat will sell PWs just because it will still make a good tow rig.

[@Offshore1977]

Dang. Where did this come from? Now we’re talking.

[@williamsanders468]

LSanti I believe there’s a video on one of the channels of a Ford 7.3 at SEMA

[@mr.wisdom2699]

From ford 🤦‍♂️

[@mckou1547]

Just kinda waiting till one of the manufacturers just gets it over with and introduces an M1 Abrams sans the turret and slaps a badge on it proclaiming "latest infotainment and class leading battle damage survivability"

[@unsc0212able]

That would be.... sick!!

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

Funny you mention that because Chrysler defense was the manufacturer of the M1 Abrams now it is part of General Dynamics Land systems

[@elmeroperronucsb]

Seems to be where things are headed!

[@TheXOoftheRO]

Chrysler designed the M1 abrams. Tfp

[@laingadaing]

Looking to sell: Early 2000's m1 tank derivative, lady driven, never war'd with, maticulessly maintained.

[@ThePolishSausage]

Chevy shouldn't even be thinking about a HD competitor to these trucks with out visiting the drawing board for a redesign

[@ewiem4351]

7.3 liter GAS V8? In real numbers that's 445 cubic inches. Should fit nice and cozy in a Mustang.

[@eddies.l6593]

Ewie M now we’re talking

[@fread51]

It's not going in any mustang from the factory

[@mindspinn311]

Nope. Heavy iron big block has no place in a mustang. Ford made this for towing. What would be gained? The coyote V8 already makes 460hp and the Voodoo 520hp.

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Spot on, Alex.

[@JC-zg4xe]

“Real numbers” haha good one.

[@bobbyh1721]

Hell yeah, let me buy a truck for 95k and then take it rock crawling!!!

[@williamsanders468]

Bobby Heffner exactly what I thought the entire video

[@geejay5653]

Buy a vehicle and use it as you see fit. I set my trucks up to go off road and have never shy'd away from testing the limits no matter how expensive. If you're afraid of using the capabilities/intended purpose of a vehicle for fear of breakage or scratches, then you probably can't afford that particular vehicle in the first place.

[@jrod264winmag]

It's just another pavement princes.

[@MakoCon]

@@geejay5653 this guy gets it.

[@jrod264winmag]

@@geejay5653 all I see are cars on your channel.

[@ID10Tpig]

Cons: No factory winch No disconnecting front sway bar No front locker Pros: Diesel Locking front hubs Rear locker Front LS Nice trim, but won't out do the Wagon where they were both designed to go...offroad.

[@jacksonsmith1890]

It's awesome that you can get a powerstroke in this package, it would be cool if they had the Cummins in the power wagon

[@PitbullSoco]

They wont because of the substantial weight of the Cummins and higher center of gravity. For an off road truck the gasoline Hemi is a better choice. For the main purpose this truck was built for anyway.

[@jacksonsmith1890]

Bryan Hadley yea good point 👍🏼

[@michaelconner9796]

Why? So you can say "hold on a second... my truck ran out of cat piss"? New diesels are too high maintenance for this type of driving. They use to be awesome and it would have awesome before the EPA decided to put makeup on a pug and call it a beauty queen... Tell you what, find an old 12v or DD6.5 Drop it into an 80s style pickup. Fix it up super nice and you will have something 8 times better than this for 40k less and the government can't do shit about it.

[@JonathanDharamdeo]

Cummings is more for towing and torque

[@wb6anp]

@@michaelconner9796 Except in California, they are banning the older non def engines, you either have to get rid of the trucks or re-engine them next year, You wont be able to register them if you don't re-engine.

[@CliffWarren]

Reading the comments, I think a lot of people are missing the fact that this can be added to an XL truck. This is what you've been asking for.

[@amosmoses8974]

It is available on the xlt but not the xl as stated in this video.

[@Poohdaddymagic]

Try watching video before you type assfuck...

[@wooodrow99]

Well, that escalated quickly.

[@mbmpablo3631]

A xlt fx4 can do the job almost same way.... 40k less

[@jwar2163]

So how many Asphalt queens will be getting this 4x4 to never take it off road?

[@scottgray3945]

Not many people will “rock crawl’ a vehicle with 148” wheel base

[@MurciSV]

160” actually

[@dcs_kraken]

My 16 Power Wagon went to Moab for a full week of off-roading over rocks. Nearly stock with rock sliders. With 50 other Power Wagon owners. Held every year. Power Wagons in Moab.

[@kjdinoc]

And they managed to put the front end on right side up! Yes, I'm talking to you Chevy.....that upside down grill you got going on now is hideous!

[@fireandtwistedmetal]

Kevin Danker I was think the same thing, you’d think they learned from ford in 08.

[@RBZ06LT6]

And Ford copied the pushrod engine from GM. So shut it up now. And btw, the new 2020 HD Chevys are awesome. They look mean and more trucky than those UGLY UGLY f-250-350s. Ford just dont know what to do anymore and it shows in their design.

[@soarhacks4777]

@@RBZ06LT6 Says the the brand that had to borroe BILLIONS from the government not to go under 😭

[@NoVaCars]

soarhacks lol 😂

[@kjdinoc]

@@soarhacks4777 "borrow" is an understatement. They took ownership of that mess GM and then took a huge loss paid for by tax payors to unload it a few years later. Borrower implies they paid it back.

[@cityfans5723]

So this is basically a leveled FX4 on 35s with slightly better shocks and more driving modes.

[@irishuwould5185]

CityFans yep, you could that yourself for thousands less

[@williamsanders468]

And a 7.3L V8

[@jamessoncreek4553]

Yup

[@philchavez366]

It’s not leveled. 2” rear and 1” front

[@T51B1]

Pretty much, yeah. Basically an FX4 with a bit of a revamp.

[@donleamon8653]

Meh, as a current Power Wagon owner, I'm kinda disappointed. This doesn't move the bar much, and it certainly isn't better in technical off-road capability. Better RTI due to the RAMs suspension design and a true front locker will separate the two. This is no more than what the FX4 package always should have been.

[@moose5.9]

At least fx4 sounds better than tremor lol

[@hellkitty1014]

It's a lift kit with Duratracs. Meh.

[@tumama5321]

I’m a chevy guy but damn these are some badass trucks

[@BrandonS55]

II HeyMen04 II you gotta love the Aluminum Superduty’s. They look and drive like a dream, and you get the 6.7!

[@deerepower337]

II HeyMen04 II Ford trucks have been bad ass for over forty years where have you been

[@tumama5321]

A Slabaugh I’m not sure where I’ve been 🧐

[@aidansharp5053]

I think I will always love the Power Wagon more, but I'm glad Ford is bringing the Tremor to the table so FCA will have some competition and make and even better Power Wagon!

[@dillonh321]

Yeah maybe fca will finally decide to add the Cummins to the powerwagon.

[@vaughnburrows]

Looks like the 2021 power wagon will be the one to buy

[@MadDSnareify]

@@dillonh321 Doubt it. Ford doesn't have a winch, front locker, or disconnecting sway bar. Ram isn't going to skimp on what makes it a Power Wagon for the sake of a diesel.

[@dillonh321]

@@MadDSnareify If ram wasn't lazy they could make the Cummins fit.

[@kylescaggs8448]

@@dillonh321 The Cummins is bolt in, there is nothing to "make it fit." They don't do it because it's an off road focused truck and a big heavy diesel is counterintuitive to it's purpose.

[@eichler721]

Nice that it has a diesel option but no locking front diff and no disconnecting away bar means the powerwagon will still be better offroad

[@Stuka87]

That diesel is why it doesnt have a disconnecting sway bar, and why the ram has no diesel. The engines are so much larger that there is no room for the axle to articulate.

[@eichler721]

@@Stuka87 agreed that's why this is a AT4 competitor not the Powerwagon

[@thomaskiger6960]

They would have room if the put the 3.0 turbo diesel in it. Plus it's much lighter that the Cummins

[@eichler721]

@@thomaskiger6960 yes but the ecodiesel has no balls. I want a 5.9L diesel that would fit in the current truck with a winch. Or the 426NA that would be just as light as the 392 and have more power and torque

[@thomaskiger6960]

@@eichler721 love 5.9 but to heavy for wheeling. Need to offer Cummins 3.8 can put out 300 hp and over 500 ftlbs but is lighter and shorter witch would shift more wieght toward rear.

[@ryanmartinage]

This is an off-road truck that’s also meant to work. Good mix of parts.

[@krane15]

Correction: a work truck that can go off-road.

[@stampedeoffroad8276]

Ford is establishing that they can do an off road vehicle with solid front axle -- good news potentially for Bronco enthusiasts looking for a blue oval competitor to the Wrangler.

[@jimsiggy]

Why? Because it's always a good idea to take a 7,000+ pound, $60-80K truck out into the woods, so you can feel cool.

[@mauserdave]

Yes so it could break down on you up at 6000 feet on the side of a mountain.

[@Miguel-fh7bv]

i would rather have the other boys review this

[@jayfarmer3911]

Power Wagon is still king in terms of pure off road capability. It's basically a 3/4 ton rubicon.

[@trudeaumustgo1920]

Raptor would do just as good

[@jayfarmer3911]

@@trudeaumustgo1920 Raptor is a totally different approach to off road than Tremor and Power Wagon

[@trudeaumustgo1920]

@@jayfarmer3911 no shit!?

[@Fixin-To]

In the words of a great man: “POWER WAGON DON’T CARE!”

[@derriklee287]

Your mom cares

[@coltonjacobs5383]

It will when the reliability of this is much better than the power wagon

[@americansniper1641]

Two trucks pretty much same price One pulls 20lbs And the other is a Fiat Yea I'll take the ford

[@practicalpavo2040]

Wasn’t the single cab “lightning “ replacement from a couple years back called the tremor?

[@cleetismcdougall5425]

Ford Ranger option package back in 2004. Later a f150 package.

[@jamesmcintire3800]

Ford has a long history of re-using names. Taking the name of a trim package of one particular and spinning it off into it's own separate model. I.e: Ranger, Explorer, Edge, and now Tremor.

[@mikz86ta1]

Yup, it was an epic fail. Because everyone I know wanted a SC 5.0 instead of the Ecoboost. And I think it made it 2yrs. Ford said it had to do with poor Reg Cab sales across the board. While I agree Crew Cab trucks rule sales, the guys who like RC trucks basically get a XL or XLT option. Even if u try to special order a better package, you can't.

[@genemasters4986]

A zillion years ago (I think it was 2003 and 2004-ish) Ford offered a Ranger Tremor, which featured a whopping 10" down-firing speaker in a Ranger Supercab. ("You'll hear it before you see it!" was Ford's claim.) It could be had only with a V-6 engine and automatic transmission. It had a nicer interior than the ordinary XLT cab, along with a special wheel design. In ~2014, Ford offered a F-150 Regular Cab short bed with a 3.5 EcoBoost engine and a 4.11 rear axle, and called it a "Tremor"... it was quite a snappy performance truck. But it died when the aluminum body arrived on the scene. Sadly, they sold very few of them... people wanted a back seat more than high performance.

[@fread51]

Yep awd eco boost F150 not a bad truck

[@jacksonbarinowski3966]

So it performs well off road AND can tow stuff AND will most likely be fast? Count me in!

[@UNREAL8745]

More powerful but not more capable off-road. No locking front diff, no disconnecting sway bar.

[@SledgeHammer43]

It has a electronic locking rear diff. It has a dana limited slip front diff.

[@UNREAL8745]

Don Hanson Never mentioned it didn’t have a locking rear differential, I watched the same video you did. Limited slip is outmatched in every way except fuel efficiency compared to a locking differential.

[@843MudMafia.]

Ram power wagon still got a better truck

[@farmerboy9029]

@@UNREAL8745 yeah but it still offers the same effect as a Posi lock,both tires will spin at the same speed

[@donkeyballs7860]

@@farmerboy9029 just admit it. Girls poop bro

[@jamesdenton5422]

THESE TRUCKS ARE SO LONG, THAT IT COMPLETELY INHIBITS IT'S OFF ROAD CAPABILITIES. I WOULD LOVE THIS CONCEPT IN A SHORT BED, SINGLE CAB WITH ALL THAT POWER AND TORQUE.

[@USARealMan-ls3zj]

THEN GET IT IN A SHORT BED SINGLE CAB

[@jamesbeaman6337]

HAS IT BEEN CONFIRMED THAT IT WILL BE OFFERED IN OTHER CAB AND BED LENGTHS?

[@jackwsandoz]

WHY ARE WE YELLING?

[@jamesdenton5422]

@@jackwsandoz IT'S NOT YELLING. THIS !!! SYMBOL INDICATES THAT.

[@UltimateCARNUT]

Power wagon has a front locker. Automatically making it the more serious off road truck.

[@lrlapua8035]

Tremor does also....

[@habanero8192]

TheCarChannel >>> you'll be very serious-looking in your broken-down electrically-challenged Fiat garbage stuck among the rocks ;-)

[@UltimateCARNUT]

@@lrlapua8035 Well TFL is saying front LSD which is not a locker.

[@UltimateCARNUT]

@@habanero8192Maybe but but the rams and v8 cars are pretty solid. lol

[@lrlapua8035]

@@UltimateCARNUTand 99.9% of the people who buy this truck will never seriously off road it just like 99.9% of the power wagon owners don't...limited slip or locker same thing for 99.9% who buys either....

[@JesusGarcia98.F]

The Power Wagon has been in production since 1945... has that front locker, front disconnecting away bar, factory installed winch, higher RTI score, and if you add 35’s like the “Tremor”... pfff. calm down with your FX4 2.0 package

[@FlyingSparks12336]

Jesus Garcia sounds about right and I’m a ford guy. This looks lazy on ford part lol fx4 2.0

[@Stuka87]

The Power Wagon was out of production for the vast majority of the time window. But I do think its the better offroad truck. The Tremor very much is an FX4^2 package.

[@simonsays6701]

Obviously you don’t understand why people buy HDs to begin with. Ford does, and the Tremor produces.

[@JesusGarcia98.F]

Democrat Leader Why do people buy HD’s, according to you? Cause I myself own a Ram 2500 with the 6.7 Cummins and beat the shit out of it every single day

[@noahchiasson7809]

The power wagon still has more mechanical off road features like the front locker and sway bar disconnect, so it will probably be a little better off road. But the Ford will most definitely beat it on road with its towing and payload capacities

[@mopeman440]

Don't forget about the winch.

[@joshmarklowitz3243]

The Power Wagon will win on road for the ride with the more soft suspension. The biggest issue people will find out about is the weight of the diesel in soft terrain and up hill climbs, if they actually take it offroad.

[@LolliWANG505]

@@joshmarklowitz3243 The diesel will do nothing but help it offroad dude. All people complain about in the powerwagon is that its engines not powerful enough to off-road its weak. Besides that added weight gives it more traction, and more power to climb steep hills something a lack of power wagon can't.

[@joshmarklowitz3243]

@@LolliWANG505 maybe I should have mentioned I have a 2016 Power wagon, live in Colorado and do take it offroad. Not sure where you got your info but the power wagon has plenty of power off road. Actually as a power wagon owner, my biggest complaint is not enough brake to hold it back. You obviously have no experience with the power wagon off road.

[@roninkraut6873]

Josh Marklowitz And you obviously have zero experience with how the Tremor will rise on the road. You’re guilty of the same brand bias.

[@DeLoEnterprises]

No full lockers, No front sway bar disconnect , no winch, only thing that ford beats ram in is the ability to add the diesel, NO thanks i'll keep the powerwagon for now.

[@CristianHernandez-jr3vn]

DeLo Enterprises classic ram driver allergic to anything not ram

[@americansniper1641]

Fiat keeps the death woble Ford can pull your broken down Fiat plus two more side by sides and a toy hauler

[@americansniper1641]

@@CristianHernandez-jr3vn theres no such thing as a ram driver only fiat drivers

[@jeffreyrogers8151]

Msrp will be around $64,000. With little rebates. I'm sure the guys that can afford this will just be parking in the garage or using it as a mall crawler

[@atvrepairsandmore2482]

That blue is amazing. Can't wait to see them in person

[@bretmarstellar603]

The Power Wagon has more offroad equipment and is also available with multiple trim levels- tradesman, big horn, Laramie.

[@kdmtrap7268]

So is this lmao

[@EricFortuneJr.]

But only 1 engine option.. They need to offer the Cummins.

[@jondavidbristow9819]

@@EricFortuneJr. there's 2 engine options and the 6.7 Powerstroke is just as good as the Cummins

[@TheKillerMarine]

@@kdmtrap7268 only in the higher end models lmao

[@TheKillerMarine]

@@EricFortuneJr. literally defeats the purpose of an offroad rig

[@trevorb555]

The power wagon laughs at this truck. I think it’s cool, but the power wagon will continue to go places this can’t.

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

Lol like where? Guess we will see.

[@dedalliance1]

@@BUILTDIESELMAFIA Well, the Power Wagon could drag itself upside down a 45 degree rock cliff with its winch, so there's that. Also, it's a lighter truck with more flex and weighs a lot less so you're not going to sick in mud / sand / snow as much and it's going allow the truck to get traction easier without slipping. I'm not a Ford or a Dodge guy, but I don't think the Ford is going to come close to the power wagon for right now, maybe in the future when they add more stuff.

[@2dfx]

@@derriklee287 you don't add anything meaningful. It's clear you're a Ford fanboy with a chip on your shoulder.

[@therealjohnsmith4811]

@@dedalliance1 I have 2 Fleet Powerwagons at work. Great on logging trails. They will crawl over anything. Mud / snow? Too heavy for its own good. The payload and towing numbers on the PW are horrid compared to the standard Ram packages. It depends what you are after.

[@trevorb555]

Derrik Lee yeah I bet you’re a real smart guy talking that way. Tough guy behind a computer screen.

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

OMG, Ford is killing it by bringing what people want to market like FCA, and it’s nothing but awesome that GM is going to follow suit.

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

Yas less dated more poorly constructed with cheap material.

[@coltonjacobs5383]

Yas and don’t get me started about their reliability

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

The more off road trucks the better, competition is healthy.

[@bradgt5130]

So the ranger tremor was a sound system The f150 tremor got a 3.6 TT in a single cab truck And the Super Duty tremor is a offroad package. What I don’t understand is why this package isn’t the standard fx4 model? I feel like this is how the fx4 should be compared to the standard 4wd model.

[@birdsnestfishing698]

Bradley Beyer I don’t think the fx4 should come like this. What about all the ranchers, oil guys and others out there that just want the skid plates and normal fx4 parts. They don’t want the lift and bigger tires for gooseneck and just don’t need all the extra goodies. To add to the price of an alreDy expensive truck.

[@simonsays6701]

Yup. My company only buys FX4 HDs. Doesn’t make sense to add all the extra stuff to a work truck.

[@nickers1889]

Make it fx4 level 2

[@bradgt5130]

Birds nest Fishing then get the standard 4wd model. A fx4 should be something different not just some rancho shocks

[@bradgt5130]

Nickers 18 the early fx4 Level 2 was the best ranger to date. In my opinion.

[@Hiei1029]

Love it. Crew cab 6-3/4 bed is all I want. I want to see the gas 7.3 engine is like. Mpg and tow ratings along with mpg while pulling. I still can’t afford the 6.7 lol

[@harbingertheheretic3541]

Remember when "Tremor" was a sound & style package for the Ranger? Peperidge Farm remembers. This is at least the second Ranger package name that has been thrown at another vehicle. The first was the Edge, which went from being a Ranger style package to being a fat, jacked up hatchback.

[@erikhoolihan92]

Gave you a like just for the Peperidge Farm pull. GG

[@trynsurviven2440]

Cheap version = $60,000 Expensive version = Don’t ask just grin and bare it.

[@jimmy4x4socal44]

Ford nailed it on the styling. Might have to trade in the CTD

[@STMcK2009]

Jimmy4x4 Socal . Yep Ford nailed it on the styling, if you call using a straight line as your main design tool, oh wait, they did use a circle on the front, I guess to point out the problem!

[@jimmy4x4socal44]

STMcK2009 _ it’s all subjective

[@Matts000]

This is awesome! I have been waiting to buy my new truck because I want that 7.3L. But it also looks like I will be getting this package too, and god I love that blue colour! 👌

[@jeffreyrogers8151]

Me too. But I'm concerned that, they will only make the 7.3 gas in a lariat or platinum..

[@David-rx2to]

No..he said early on in the video that the 7.3 will be available in XLT

[@mattbrew11]

jeffrey rogers I believe all the 2020 SDs with a v8 get that motor

[@mikz86ta1]

I disagree, I think the 7.3 will be the base gas engine. Doing away with the older HD gas motor. The Diesel is still going to be the option

[@David-rx2to]

Michel Foshee... the 6.2 gas engine will continue as the base engine with the 7.3 gas and the 6.7 diesel as options

[@kerriecroom7562]

Why isn't turning radius ever mentioned? It's so important for off road especially on the switch backs. PS. I love this channel!

[@mikz86ta1]

Very good point. A reg cab would win that. Also win clearance over obstructions in the middle. But probably not great overall stability.

[@austinbell1044]

@@mikz86ta1 agreed, that being said they probably wont make a single cab tremor because not enough people would buy them

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Agreed, it would be great if Ford would offer the Tremor package in all truck configs as an add-on option but we probably shouldn't get our hopes up.

[@laingadaing]

Seems like a great truck for someone that likes the idea of the Power Wagon but absolutely needs more capacity. Tremor- Full time worker, part time offroader. Power Wagon- Full time offroader, part time work truck. Both look amazing imo.

[@IAmTheGuy1477]

Finally some competition in the heavy duty off-road segment, 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@moose5.9]

Soooo....35s, a level, shocks and some electronic stuff? Sounds like they're just mailing it in

[@michaelflick4346]

This is pretty lazy on Ford's part to add basic/cheap mods to a truck and then market it as a competitor to a built-from-the-ground-up rock crawler like the power wagon. If this was their big plan, why didn't they do it sooner. As far as looks, it looks like a basic super duty with a lift and big tires. Cool.....

[@CallsignVega]

Really the only bit of kit that is significant upgrade in the super duty lineup is the rear locking diff, that's it.

[@moose5.9]

@@CallsignVega yeah, locking diffs are nice. Have one in my 19 Ram 1500

[@moose5.9]

@@michaelflick4346 exactly, what's a level cost like 100 bucks? Get the wheels and tires you want for 2500ish and you saved yourself some money lol. And the name? Tremor? Wtf, hows that scream "offroad"

[@raymonds7492]

I think ford doesn't want to sacrifice capability.

[@fai591]

RAM 2021 Power Wagon is gonna be a beast. FCA doesn't mess around when it comes to their trucks

[@redondo_beach_trucker2123]

So it’s literally an FX4 with a sticker package and the front air dam removed... Ford should’ve at least put remote reservoir shocks and a quick disconnect roll bar

[@greenman2515]

I think the gas is the better option for off road. It’s not near as heavy as the diesel and has a higher RPM for the muddy stuff. As far as betting the ram, I don’t think so lol

[@danbrauner9247]

They have power wagons with various options. From base tradesman to full leather with all the fancy stuff. I'd take a power wagon all day. POWER WAGON DON'T CARE!!

[@Chuffmaster654]

They are gonna sell the absolute shit outta these!

[@morrismolina8605]

dot-com boom 😂

[@rileybushey4845]

Ram guys getting butthurt that ford makes the most badass and best looking trucks

[@rileybushey4845]

@@pittbrother7704 where is your diesel and capability

[@treizTUBE]

Nice, but I'm sad it's not available for the super cab shorter wheel base, and no front locker and no wynch and no sway bar disconnect? Not so nice.

[@RyanRKJ]

The limited slip front differential combined with the off road drive modes and Trail Control should get these trucks almost anywhere they should go.

[@austinanderson32]

They still have the front manual lock in hubs

[@colinwatt00]

Ryan rkj - in theory this may be true, but in actuality a LSD is going to have much worse driving characteristics compared to a locking diff. Rock crawling, especially in high-risk scenario, demands stable and predictable tire placement and power transfer. An LSD coupled with a computer isn’t going to deliver that. If it were the case, there wouldn’t be an aftermarket for locking-differentials, rather we’d see an industry around LSDs and ECU ‘tunes’, but we don’t.

[@marcusyoung2870]

Winch won't fit with the diesel. That's why the Power Wagon doesn't offer a Cummins option

[@cjwyj13]

@@colinwatt00 Ford only use's the IWE on 1/2 tonnes, the super duties are all solid axle

[@Red.Hot.Chili.Beans63]

Ram has said in the past that the winch's space requirements prevent the diesel in the Power Wagon. Maybe Ford has this issue too since they didn't offer the winch.

[@michaelmurphy5221]

Michael Artelle I know you meant power stroke

[@flash1034]

The Power Wagon does need more power out of that 6.4. Also, the Power Wagon should come with 35s. Another big plus for the PW is the Ramboxes though.

[@UncleElroy21]

Bill Beverly you can fit 37s without lift

[@blackice7408]

If they can make 485 hp outta that engine performance wise, they can at least squeeze out 450 hp and 495 tq

[@mikz86ta1]

Why, are u racing a PW on a dragstrip? Too much HP or TQ may negatively affect it's capability for desired purpose. Buy a 4x4 SLT, do the Ramrunner conversion and slap a supercharger on the 6.4L then go have fast fun across a desert with the Raptor boys for less money.

[@thomaskiger6960]

35s and put the 3.0 Turbo diesel in it. Love the Cummins but to heavy for hard wheeling.

[@blackice7408]

@@mikz86ta1 the 3.5 l twin turbo v6 makes 450 hp and 510 tq. Whats wrong if a hemi makes close that? Im just saying from the 5.7 to the 6.4, the small power bump couldve been easily done on the 5.7 itself and seeing what ford and chevy has to offer, dodge's 6.4 in the power wagon looks weak. Im not saying that it should be a racer. But with what its gonna be doing, at least give it more power

[@mr.yellowtruck3434]

It’s 12:38 AM and I should be asleep because I have to get up at 4:30, but here I am.

[@billygoat7c]

Having the diesel available in itself puts this ahead of the ram!

[@MadDSnareify]

Why? You can get Rams with diesels. You can also get Rams with diesels and put 35s on it. The Ford is still missing the winch, the disconnecting sway bar, and front locker. So how is it ahead? It won't touch the Ram.

[@billygoat7c]

Winch is in the future (per video), front limited slip is good enough for my use, and don't care about disconnecting sway bar. Would rather buy the truck as is than spend a bunch of money modifying. I would love a power wagon but the fact it doesn't come with a Cummins is a deal breaker. Also, the Cummins equipped ram does not have rear locker, has open front diff, no winch, or disconnecting sway bar. The Cummins equipped Ram is far behind the Tremor and Power Wagon and would require A LOT more work than 35's to match either truck.

[@shitloveaduck]

If you are really going off-road and are going crawling, especially in muddy conditions, you actually want the GAS motor. The truck is lighter, has a much better crawl ratio. I had a 2017 F350 Gas. It was really nice but we pulled a really heavy gooseneck on the highway. The truck did the job but was working pretty hard. Now I (the farm actually) have a 2019 diesel. The diesel tows better and feels better on the highway. Both are FX4 XLT Crew Cabs. The diesel is terrible in mud and slippery hilly (steep) conditions. We could go through the mud so much better with the gas truck than we can with the diesel. When we are in the range where we had cattle, with the diesel, it can be really scary. It slides all over and does not climb like the gas did. The trucks are basically the same and have the same tires, size, 10 ply, etc. The diesel is just so much heavier up front. Fortunately we can live without taking the diesel in the hills as we have 3 x F150 FX4 Trucks we put Good Year Dura Tracks on before they even left the dealership. The dealer did this as part of the negotiations. Whew! So anyways, think hard about the Diesel. Nice to say you have one, maybe not nice THAT you have one, depending on the use. Mud is not the diesel’s forte. Safe truckin’, Eh!

[@billygoat7c]

True gas is better for 4x4...buts let's be real....99% of these (power wagon, rebel, raptor, tremor etc) are bought for novelty. Power wagon truck usage capabilities are less than a new 1500. If you actually need a 2500 class truck a power wagon wont cut it. The tremor supposedly will. If so the tremor would give you 2500 class capabilities and the novelty of the "off road" truck. Plus the diesel is an option, so someone like me can get it and someone else with different needs/desires can get gas...not the case for the gas only power wagon. I drive the ike gauntlet weekly and any naturally aspirated engine truck will not compare to anything boosted (even unloaded). For me specifically, I wouldn't even consider a gas engine in a truck that size but would love something that came with better off road tools...mainly for unplowed snowmobile parking lots...real off road I'll just grab the ktm hahaha. Happy farming

[@shitloveaduck]

billygoat7c - very well put.

[@BBQNerd]

PWDC..Looks like it competes more with a regular 2500 w/ Offroad package than it does with a PW.

[@nathonsmithson3024]

no its a heavy duty truck with extra offroad options. the pw is a light duty truck with extra offroad options. the pw can only tow barely over 10k pounds which is 1/2 ton standards . the tremmor is going to double that with more ground clearance, better axles,bigger tires,and better fuel economy. the big block 7.3 is supposed to get close to 20 mpg.

[@BBQNerd]

Nathon, to my point. I didn't buy my PW for its towing capabilities. If that were a factor, I would have purchased a 2500/3500 with the offroad pkg. Then I would have retained the towing capabilities of the 2500, and had the added skid plates and shocks. The Tremors bigger tires are still Duracraps which many PW owners replace with 35 or even 37s anyway. Give up the winch, the swaybar, the lockers(front and rear), and the articulation for larger tires and more towing? Rather just put the airbags on the PW and get the towing back.

[@nathonsmithson3024]

first a 3/4 ton that cant tow over 10k lbs is terrible. its not a 3/4 ton. its more like a raptor which a power wagon looses on every offroad comparison except for the winch. leave it to dodge to by something from someone else to make there truck worth something for example cummins deisel and toyota is making transmisions for the 1/2 tons now. the raptor and tremors are marketed to be true duel purpose for their rating meaning the 1/2 ton can tow 8 k lbs and the 3/4 or 1 ton can tow up to 20k. thats why ford sells millions more trucks

[@BBQNerd]

Again, didn't buy a PW for towing. That's not its purpose. PW is still the King of what its built to do. Crawl over things and go anywhere it wants. Its built on the same HD platform as the other 2500s just with softer springs which reduce the towing and payload. Easily fixed with adding airbags. Now the Tremor may very well be best truck for the Oilfield, but it falls short of the PW where the roads end.

[@joshmarklowitz3243]

Who says the ford axles are better than the power wagon axles? Thats b.s. and it may have better towning but I bought my power wagon for going offroad in Colorado, hunting, general outdoor activities. I have 35x12.50's and no problems. Put your money where your mouth is and come on out to Colorado and see if that ford can follow me up the mountain trails. Difference will be Power Wagon owners go offroad. You need articulation for traction. And locking both diff's makes a huge difference. The Fords will just be Mall crawlers. See the videos of power wagon owner meet ups in Moab or visit the power wagon site and make an educated decision before spending your hard earned cash. Tow rig or real offroad proven capable truck.

[@handz87]

Power wagon has a front locker, disconnecting sway bar, more clearance and more flex, and a 18k winch, and Bilstein shocks... so how is the ford going to eat rams lunch? Flippin makes no sense.

[@simonsays6701]

handz87 Obviously you don’t understand why people buy HDs to begin with. Ford does, and the Tremor produces.

[@scskt2311]

This is a pussy, half hearted offering from Ford to enter this niche field.. c'mon, they barely tried..

[@djgoliday]

These are the videos that give me life!

[@TheXOoftheRO]

Oh boy a sticker package and leveling kit.

[@bradboyd883]

Why didn't you mention the Power Wagon having the front locker? A limited slip is not equivalent to a locker....

[@joelacevedo6146]

Brad Boyd ford super duty have all had locking front hubs since the 90s

[@AUSSIEGARAGE_YT]

@@joelacevedo6146 locking hubs are not the same as a locking differential. The locking hubs just engage the front wheels with the axle shafts, it still has an open differential. The locker locks both axle shafts in the axle case together making them spin together.

[@bradboyd883]

Thank you Joel.

[@UNREAL8745]

Brad Boyd Dude. Ford has had manual locking HUBs (the knobs on the wheels you turn to fully engage the 4wd system) forever, NOT a locking differential (the axle configuration that allows equal power to both wheels). Manual locking hubs mean nothing other than having to go outside the vehicle and turn he knobs separately to get the wheels to go into 4wd. This doesn’t mean the wheels will spin at the same speed or power. I have a Geo Tracker with manual locking hubs, but the wheels certainly don’t get the same power each.

[@mattbrew11]

There’s a lot of situations where a front locker sucks but switching to open isn’t ideal either. Coupled to the incredible off-road system has should really be amazing. Don’t know it till TFL tries it

[@mohammadzohorul8887]

This truck brought back my love for gas powered car.

[@RyanRKJ]

This is an excellent offering by Ford! I think they checked all the boxes for their buyers. HD capability and power, on Duratrac 35s, with some good traction management software and hardware.

[@CoyoteFTW]

The better offering

[@11ttundra]

Love it...love everything about it! I will certainly be buying a few Tremor OEM parts for my 2017 F250. I’ve got too many mods and memories in my truck to trade for one, but I’ll definitely be taking advantage of some great factory parts. Wish this was available in 2017!!! As always...great video, Brother!

[@philtripe]

make sure you get the stickers...its going to look amazing at the mall

[@iwreckbutts307]

I’m right there with you. The tailgate and air dam are on my list.

[@11ttundra]

stickloaf my truck has 65 thousand miles on it, more than 2K are off-road and about 40K is hauling/towing. You don’t know my life!

[@wrzl1675]

Ford is saying they won’t be selling Tremor parts over the counter so it doesn’t look like you’ll be buying Tremor parts for 2019 and earlier models trucks

[@abm2958]

Ford's so full of BS, like nobody knows a body shop to order whatever you want, idiots.

[@charlieporch3181]

Wow. Chevrolets new truck looks horrible. What were they smoking?

[@jewman303]

Charlie Porch idk man. I’m glad I got my 2015 2500 when I did.

[@CallsignVega]

No locking front diff, no disconnecting sway bar, no winch. PowerWagon still easily better off-road.

[@thehayman7352]

Yep

[@habanero8192]

Callsign Vega >>> yeah, it'll be great postured as though it is climbing the mounds of scraps at an auto junkyard ;-)

[@thehayman7352]

@@habanero8192 as if the Ford wouldn't haha

[@habanero8192]

@@thehayman7352 >>> pound for pound there are more rusting heaps of Dodge / RAM scraps in junkyards across not only this country but ALL of North America. Laugh at that bozo! ;-)

[@thehayman7352]

@@habanero8192 Intresting statistic. Hope you have a source for that so you dont look like a fool

[@Goingforbroke71]

Great looking package. So far as the off road capability, I just don’t see most owners truly off road rock crawling these beasts.

[@najthesavior4286]

Their not tho!!!! 30% is offroading community and 70% are road hogs.👈🏾💁🏾‍♂️

[@mwc6849]

Pretty awesome rig! Looking forward to driving the 7.3.

[@jgh868]

Tremor reminds of a movie i once watched in 1990 called (Tremors 🐛).... Hmm. Nice truck though.

[@SChecoP11]

Loved that movie as a kid

[@mattbrew11]

I think they made around 57 sequels to that

[@Ballista762]

@@mattbrew11 Each one better than the last.

[@randydunning3876]

Ford Graboid!

[@raymonds7492]

I used to pretend I was in that movie on the playground

[@haroldhdknoxstreet-glide5331]

Wanted to buy a power wagon but towing ability’s let me search some more...now stumbled upon this Ford Tremor and yes I’ll wait for all the information that are yet to come. Thanks for this awesome channel guys congratulations

[@xInline6]

I can see it being a competitor for the power wagon, but since it’s ranged throughout all models I see it being compared to the Rams off-road package instead. It’s offered throughout models like the tremor, hill descent control, bigger tires, bill stein shocks, etc.

[@smarticus6384]

Please get some power details on the 7.3L.

[@juny881]

480 hp

[@Heavydrop1981]

Power Wagon don’t care

[@derriklee287]

Neither does your mom

[@RyanRKJ]

It probably should care.

[@graphguy]

@@derriklee287 it won't compete with the power wagon Rams' rule on the mountain.

[@RnBergman]

Matthew Taylor where’s the locking front diff?

[@coltonjacobs5383]

It will when the reliability of this is much better than the power wagon

[@jchimpo4245]

Considering more and more trails are sadly being shutdown to vehicle use, I’m amazed at how many off-road centric vehicles are being produced and how popular they have become.

[@wmc128]

6.2L makes 385hp so the 7.3L will be in the 450hp range ;the 7.3L is 18 percent larger than the 6.2L in cylinder displacement. The engine torque will be well over 500 ft lbs . Awesome work Ford.

[@flat6targa]

Now if they would only offer it in a different cab. Why do they insist on using full crew cabs?

[@ThePokeCzech]

What's the point? I'm betting it's going to be an unaffordable $83,375.

[@jaysson1151]

Valeriy.V.V yeah if you splurge on a diesel Platinum triem

[@RyanRKJ]

Some people have a lot of money, and want to buy nice things.

[@coltonjacobs5383]

It will probably be around 60k starting. With the diesel

[@ThePokeCzech]

@@RyanRKJ Very few people have a lot of money, and trucks nowadays are overpriced in general.

[@chrisneuhaus7188]

@@ThePokeCzech Do you really think the bean counters at Ford are going to offer a truck that won't sell? I know they occasionally miss the mark but they've pretty much owned the light truck market my entire lifetime. They know exactly where the price break is these days where a product won't sell. Look at Jeep, a Wrangler Rubicon L for $55K and up, and they sell like hot cakes, jet can't tow much more than a pop up camper.

[@basicAlex]

That is one badass looking truck

[@amolinari9]

You know what I actually really like this because it’s going to force ram to improve the power wagon which was almost nearly impossible before - first thing making the tires 35 inches for starters once it does that all it needs to do is increase towing and maybe offer a diesel option and it will remain unbeatable 😎

[@BIGGIEBAG-XL]

As a Chevy guy, this thing is awesome. Definitely want one. I like the power wagon as well, but I’m taking Ford over fiat any day. Good job Ford!

[@ladale21]

So in short the power wagon is a separate truck from the other rams and the tremor is a package that's added to almost any trim

[@87FoRunner]

ladale21 you can power wagon almost every trim level.

[@MadDSnareify]

@@87FoRunner you can add the Power Wagon trim to the Tradesman only. Some model years they offered it in Laramie trim.

[@colinwatt00]

This is what the FX4 package should really be. It’s a shame they didn’t benchmark against the Powerwagon with front-locking diff, winch, and disconnecting swaybars. If this is actually intended to do rock-crawling, a LSD and full-swaybars isn’t the way to go.

[@donleamon8653]

^ This

[@injunboy89]

"this will indeed be our best mall crawler yet at an aptly affordable price" -foMocoSchmo

[@I5ZQ8]

Ford one upping ram by offering this package with the diesel.

[@Ramcharger18]

Jose Gutierrez not really no locking front diff, no disconnecting sway bars. It may have more ponies but off road the power wagon will still own own it.

[@christopherbrown1391]

The weight of the powerstroke on the front but we will weight and see

[@SPPTA]

Ram Runner torson front diff. It’ll lock up on its own. It’s considered a “limited slip” but it’s more like a mechanical locker.

[@FishFind3000]

reaper519 plus locking rear

[@brly4542]

Still doesn't make sense why Dodge won't put the diesel in the power wagon

[@airratchetjockey7605]

So the tremor package is basically limited slip front diff, larger tires and special gear ratios

[@spyder000069]

I feel like a limited slip in the front would be terrible in the snow for normal driving in the curves. It would be nice if it was electronically selectable. The rest is meh. I've got a FX4 with 4.10s and it think it would do just fine with those tires.

[@mikz86ta1]

Don't forget that little switch on the dash to make u feel like ur a pro rock crawler

[@sh0cktim3]

Better ground clearance, put to test my Ford to offroad, and a factory warranty

[@simonsays6701]

Obviously people in the comments don’t know why people buy HDs. Ford does, and the Tremor produces.

[@cobrasvt347]

A front skid plate would be useless on a solid axle truck and would be near impossible to install without the travel of the axle hitting the skid plate. Your front axle is your skid plate

[@takayama1638]

One F250, to go, please.

[@mikz86ta1]

Biased much? Talking about the wide trim levels of the Ford. Then mention Ram has one, unless u get Tradesman, or opt for the expensive one. Well, I guarantee you that a Tremor Platinum will be a ton more than a Power Wagon.

[@AkDeluxeRider]

Michel Foshee and you can get a PW in Tradesmen, Big Horn, or Laramie. Which covers all the bases.

[@liberalsareinbred6383]

Need an updated video of this truck and the power wagon going head to head!

[@BenKempa]

I love that blue color

[@swazi5]

I know they want me to think Earth quake tremor. Not working though, just picturing shaking elderly tremor..

[@POWERSTROKE-wt2zk]

lol exactly I was searching for this comment

[@karlnash7105]

Tremors due to unknown reliability from Ford introducing new engine. :-) I still drive 7.3 D PowerStroke.

[@ladder5825]

The power wagons de rated tow capacity is not due to the engine. Its drivetrain is exactly the same as other 2500/3500 trucks that can reach upwards of 15k. Its rating is down due to the specific suspension alterations that the power wagon has.

[@taylor5542]

They should offer it in an XL as well. Some of us don't need a$1K backup assist package. Otherwise love it. With a 7.3 gasser for me.

[@Terruhcutta]

Taylor they do. They said it at the beginning of the video

[@tannerwharton1862]

I catch myself liking ford heavy duty trucks more and more