Does the new Bronco Raptor live up to the standard set by the F-150 Raptor? We put them both through our rigorous off-road tests to find out. Tell us what you think.
@TheTurboadict2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing an actual offroad review unlike most slow trail pace reviews out there
@user-kr1or1hm4v2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't beat throttle house tho
@realone23212 жыл бұрын
But this is an off-road segment Bozo
@chappy48 Жыл бұрын
Most off-road is the "slow trail pace".
@TP-ie3hj2 жыл бұрын
I dont drive off road very often, maybe a gravel road? So I dont know much about driving off road but I felt like this video was more about you learning the controls of these cars more than the cars being able to go up the hill or on the steps. It was more watching the reviewer learning than it was about the fords and their abilities seems like you got a lot better at working the cars over the video for sure.
@sarifarsitv4974 Жыл бұрын
you voice. the way explain things. the way u talk. funny. im so happy to find your channel man THANKS
@mechmat123452 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the Ranger Raptor. It *should* be the goldilocks Raptor between the three. Plenty of off-road ability for most people, with all the stability and utility of a truck, but without the size penalty of the gigantic f150.
@dimmacommunication Жыл бұрын
Expecially here in Europe
@JLawL2 жыл бұрын
As a Jeep 392 and Bronco Raptor owner, you did something wrong on the stair test. My Bronco has far more sway than my Jeep. Almost 7 inches different.
@Ibrahim-cp9bw Жыл бұрын
If you have to keep only one of them which one would you choose?
@alishanmao Жыл бұрын
I will take F150 Raptor anytime every time :) I am a truck guy
@DR.Detroit112 жыл бұрын
Driver errors all over.
@tri3pleagent2 жыл бұрын
Edmunds is suspect...they've put out some videos that makes me question their actual expertise.
@cryptickhi25102 жыл бұрын
yea I don't really watch these for informational purposes anymore, they mess up the tests and always feel biased.
@rocco.mbb.zoccoli2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree..
@callumcrawley Жыл бұрын
The hillclimb really got me, 4 high, lost traction, oh, 4 low with no other changes will make me get up! Tell me you don't know about off roading without telling me you don't know about off roading... Edit, plus the thumbs in the steering wheel on the high speed stuff 😬
@GemmyDonCars2 жыл бұрын
Bronco Raptor just looks SO MEAN. Better looking than the truck, easily.
@ajstar892 жыл бұрын
I’m fortunate to own both a f-150 raptor and a new bronco, and IMO the value of the Bronco Raptor isn’t there. For the price, which in todays market includes markups, the F150 version is just better overall value. Having the truck bed, higher towing rating, greater passenger space and cooled seats ;) makes it better IMO. Its also basically cheaper when you compare todays markups. All that being said, I would still buy a raptor bronco over a normal bronco because the drive line matches the F-150 on wear components, which makes repairing and replacing it so much easier for us right now.
@mechmat123452 жыл бұрын
You are greatly undervaluing the size penalty of the f150. Doesn't fit in a standard garage, doesn't fit in a standard sized parking spot, doesn't fit down a lot of Jeep trails, etc. You're essentially just saying it's better because it's a truck, without taking into account that many - if not most - don't actually need a truck.
@Josh-lt8fr2 жыл бұрын
@@mechmat12345 maybe the f150 is just suited better for his needs?
@ajstar892 жыл бұрын
@@mechmat12345 I actually own both a Bronco and a F-150 raptor, and I’m helping to design a new LT system for the bronco right now. I daily both in LA, so I understand small garages and parking spots, and if the Raptor F-150 can fit in my tiny LA garage it can fit anywhere lol. The F-150 & Bronco raptors are similar in width, I would say there is no penalty for the size, its more like a reward. The bed space and cab space is far superior in the F-150, and the F-150 drives better because its longer and reduces the sway from the 5 link. If you get the opportunity to drive or own both off road you’ll see why its such a better value in todays market.
@nicolaypastore2 жыл бұрын
@@ajstar89 how much do you earn for you to be able to have both?
@Wxman91232 жыл бұрын
I think the Bronco raptor will be harder to come by making it more valuable if you can find one for msrp.
@mattg81162 жыл бұрын
3:30. Something wrong with your disco, that tire isn't close to stuffed, the stock Bronco was more stuffed. I think you should try again.
@turbo_lander73012 жыл бұрын
22 Raptor has Trail turn Assit now.
@richfarfugnuven63087 ай бұрын
What is assit?
@beriman092 жыл бұрын
Attended a bronco offrodeo and off-roader ours and have found trail turn assist to be very damaging to local trails. When it drags the tire, it digs a pretty big hole after using it a couple times on the trail.
@RickStefani2 жыл бұрын
I have it on my Jeep thanks to the Tazer but yeah. The tests I have done just proves to not use it. Problem is because it locks in the inner tire the differential doubles the speed of the outside tire really digging in but because the rear tires turn radius is far less than the front it really is closer to 4 times the speed of the front tires. I hope Jeep and ford on the next go actually unhooks the rear wheels and line locks them to do a true dig. Just dragging the rear does not do much damage. Spinning the hell out of the rear does.
@onewayofliving2 жыл бұрын
35- 45 mph down the whoops for 100K. man.. considering how bashed up my old RZRs get going off road at speeds higher than that, I would be freaking out about hitting a big pump or whoop in those heavy beasts. 5500lbs slamming into an unsuspected rain rut. Ouch.
@savneetsinghrairai68232 жыл бұрын
Wheel base is reason...... A crawler mechanism.... whatever i just love the classic looks of bronko raptor .....wow ❤️❤️ a look apart ....
@theNfl_Esq Жыл бұрын
Which one is the most comfortable to drive on the highway? Or around town?
@everettnichols48802 жыл бұрын
I think the Raptor R is and awesome truck. But with that price point and dealer mark ups I think Ford just pushed more of there customers into a Trx.
@morpheus63942 жыл бұрын
Toyota land cruiser 79 series will definitely do all these tests, but not available in America?
@josegonzales843 Жыл бұрын
Not sure why you would compare straight axel articulation on wrangler versus independent front suspension on bronco, different set up for different applications.
@LordHolley2 жыл бұрын
The Bronco is shorter, That's why it is not getting to the 4th step without lifting the rear wheel.
@0AFonseca Жыл бұрын
F150 didn't either and it's longer
@mikekay2132 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to a comparison of these two with the Ford Ranger Raptor…
@hdsred7553 Жыл бұрын
There are many videos of the Bronco Raptor doing just fine and performing better than portrayed here. However, it seems the other videos have better drivers and give a true non-bias review.
@rockymountain042 жыл бұрын
Did you do a before and after alignment check??
@chrisjohnson39122 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you do this test with the Rivian when you were comparing it to the F-150 Raptor and TRX?
@angelobarrera412 жыл бұрын
Please test the Ranger Raptor when it comes out!!!!
@shaycostigan20912 жыл бұрын
Great video 😀
@boidulit2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, Bronco has shorter wheelbase that’s why it failed on the Ziggurat test
@TJ-po9ol2 жыл бұрын
Wrangler didn’t, it’s the IFS
@The-fs5wn Жыл бұрын
I’d say it’s the 37s that are the problem. The extra 4 inches doesn’t help articulation.
@philncider80772 жыл бұрын
Where is this place?
@thefrenchguard69992 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the 2 door Bronco is better or worse on the steps
@kalebkukawski28202 жыл бұрын
Worse due to the shorter wheelbase
@imbeingfrank38642 жыл бұрын
My 2022 raptor F150 has trail control. Do the test over again.
@joshuamoore62992 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the raptor has trail turn assist as well
@dre_s9002 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure for just announced it for the raptor are not the V6 version if I’m correct sorry if I’m not
@stern_942 жыл бұрын
My 22 Raptor has trail turn assist. Not sure if it's a 22 addition or if all gen3s have it.
@ryankunkel8247 Жыл бұрын
yeah Gen 3 F150 Raptors have trail turn assist@@dre_s900
@dano7272 жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe that such awesome vehicles like this are being made !
@mariojasso2795 Жыл бұрын
How is it hard to believe lol
@A.ChristopherJohnson Жыл бұрын
How about both in a major metropolitan area ?
@dgragg12 Жыл бұрын
It's the solid front axle that helps the wrangler out with articulation. Independent front suspensions just can't compete.
@leoesposito87622 жыл бұрын
great video lads very entertaining...
@CallsignVega Жыл бұрын
The F150 Raptor also has trail turn assist.
@ryankunkel8247 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Reviewers point here about the Bronco having it is completely moot and disingenuous. Why not re-run the F150 & use TTA?
@АлександърДойчев-е5б Жыл бұрын
why 4 low instead of 2 low for example?
@middle-brain2 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing the grievances of short kings 👑 🙏
@sid2vid2 жыл бұрын
A Mustang Raptor … would be amazing. I mean, Porsche is doing a Safari 911 … Let’s go.
@Jazzyexplorer2 жыл бұрын
I think you are pretty silly considering the Bronco and the F-150 both have different suspension than the jeeps which have solid suspension and the Fords have independent suspensions and your test has nothing to do with hightspeed driving
@mattg81162 жыл бұрын
Should have included more high speed stuff but the stock Bronco Raptor will chase a stock Wrangler up any trail/obstacle it can find, and the Wrangler will need a lot more than a basic lift and tires to find a place the stock BRaptor cant follow.
@Jazzyexplorer2 жыл бұрын
The Bronco Raptor does not need to be modified to do this stuff but the jeep does so I would stick with the Ford
@stickvortex Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see how the new ranger raptor compares. I’d love a Bronco but I’d like to be able to bring my dirtbikes around too so the truck is better. The F150 is just huge and more expensive. I live in Europe too so assuming I could get one the size is a factor unfortunately. The Bronco’s styling is so cool though.
@trevorspelts65812 жыл бұрын
Maybe you need a booster seat since there is no seatbelt adjustment
@johnlexus12 жыл бұрын
Your comment wins
@modlerjeancharles32872 жыл бұрын
It’s the lack of solid axel.
@bendgeddes2 жыл бұрын
To drive every day, give me IFS. To climb rocks, solid axle. I don’t see any failure here. Have you got a preference?
@alphaeuskotey55402 жыл бұрын
the raptor also has turn assist
@malsomakawlni32282 жыл бұрын
Bronco is sick.
@BikerKing727 Жыл бұрын
2:05 ford raptor is on step 4 but ford bronko is on step 3
@richardmodglin39002 жыл бұрын
Why would you put the new Bronco Raptor and Rapror Truck through tests that do not show their capability and strengths? These are not Jeeps.....why are you comparing them to a Jeeps strengths. Have you tried to run a wrangler at the speeds the Raptors can haul your ass through the desert? Don't try it you'll go end over end in the whoops with the Jeep. Your bias here sucks!
@richfarfugnuven63087 ай бұрын
Not in the Wrangler Mojave. I will admit solid axles aren't great at whoops, but 2 if my buddies at work bought them, and I was very impressed...
@hankmoody69962 жыл бұрын
Wish the bronco raptor had ventilated seats and a 2 door v8 raptor R version
@TheBowerbird2 жыл бұрын
Great content and presentation!
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@Alexbrwn272 жыл бұрын
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@MegaPusheen232 жыл бұрын
You should do a comparison on the regular jeep wrangler Rubicon and the 392 rubicon!
@Docwagon17762 жыл бұрын
Raptor is the 'performance' version comparable to SS? Not, you know, AT4 or ZR2? Credibility loss. Not seen on a race track? Does Baja racing somehow not count? Credibility loss. Is this really the state of automobile journalism now? At least you had fun, and that's what matters, right?
@Murrayxlogan2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY what I was thinking - the ford equivalent would be ST, not raptor!
@crazylegs18232 жыл бұрын
SVT (special vehicle team)
@hortenhxviii74782 жыл бұрын
the Chevy SS sedan. the trailblazer SS. countless other SS models. need I go on?
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@rexxpedition2 жыл бұрын
I built an Expedition Raptor and I would love to see Ford do it too
@Gardee Жыл бұрын
In the Ziggurat the only way to get to the top is perhaps with a solid front axle
@MrNicholg2 жыл бұрын
R1S Raptor?
@gopaulsalick5072 жыл бұрын
This guy just said the 150 raptor only made it to the third step... but it was clearly on the top of the step? Am I missing something here? Also desert run you stated you could go faster in the pickup but it was fun enough at 50mph, and then in the bronco you say you can go faster than the pickup... this channel is full of contradictory statements
@brucelongmore85792 жыл бұрын
Nice
@wadebourgeois49532 жыл бұрын
Yeah man but that don't mean nothing by that thing by doing that that's why I love all wheel drive compadre
@Blacking205022 жыл бұрын
Amo las dos algún día las tendré 😁
@user-vp2ve4sh7h2 жыл бұрын
You don't measure the width of off road vehicles with the mirrors both vehicles are the same width
@michaeldennis9589 Жыл бұрын
You are exactly right..Edmonds ALWAYS down grades any Ford..I'm like you I've seen at least 6 heavy Duty off road rock crawls, mud, snow ect..that's exactly the reason the Bronco has taken 24% of sales of Jeep!! I'm telling you if Edmonds keeps up with the bias the channel will be gone that's the truth
@RChyshkevych2 жыл бұрын
fuck it, Exprorer Raptor
@cryptickhi25102 жыл бұрын
i wish they made it happen
@adixplayez27239 ай бұрын
the highest performance version of the raptor is the raptor r which is available to the public to buy
@mdjak36868 ай бұрын
You show the rear seat of the F150 and say it has more room. Why not show sitting in the rear of the Bronco?
@unknowncommonman Жыл бұрын
I want to see a Mustang Raptor .
@gagelight6939 Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a '23 F150 Raptor and it has trail turn assist.... DO IT AGAIN!!!!!!
@zachariahyager31152 жыл бұрын
I thought it would do better on the suspension test but otherwise it’s a beast
@HarryKuloh2 жыл бұрын
It what
@jeffhtube2 жыл бұрын
So just recently bought a MachE. The Sunrise Ford dealer without informing me added modifications to the car before I picked up, and forced me to to either pay additional thousands of dollars for it or cancel the order after I waited over 8 months for my order. Totally unethical greedy tactic, yeah I say get rid of the dealers.
@SylentONE Жыл бұрын
The one near Sawgrass Mall?
@victoryengineer2 жыл бұрын
Turns on a dine and gives back 9 cents.....awesome!
@Alexbrwn272 жыл бұрын
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@Wxman91232 жыл бұрын
The jeep does better on the ziggerat because it has a solid front axle, but it drives like ass on pavement whereas the Raptors do quite confidently.
@03godzilla282 жыл бұрын
You have seen them in Races
@operator8470 Жыл бұрын
I know it would stop me from getting one. The price
@m.c.0173 ай бұрын
Choosing to not use momentum in any of the reviews I’ve seen here on KZbin for most channels is one of the biggest errors being made
@lukewarner14992 жыл бұрын
Raptor Ford Mustang GT
@Propelled2 жыл бұрын
If you use turn assist, make sure you scrape your “Tread Lightly” decals off of your rig!😂 By the way, can a person even buy a Bronco Raptor?
@cottonhiker2 жыл бұрын
My Honda Civic can do that
@dennis.shrayman Жыл бұрын
The steps test is pointless. Lost traction? So what? You have 3 more wheels!
@duniaotomotif66562 жыл бұрын
Aceh indonesia. I like raptor.good
@karelltulod30792 жыл бұрын
Ford Raptor Ford Everest awesome cars
@jhongsports56802 жыл бұрын
You need just enjoy what you have that's american brand just ne thankful that you can drive any cars you all cars have pros and cons as a driver it's up to us.
@cottonhiker2 жыл бұрын
I love the Raptor but it has as much in common with a trophy truck as it has to do with an airplane
@zachariahyager31152 жыл бұрын
Yes of course but that’s the idea. You can get a taste of that experience. People are so literal 🤦♂️
@cottonhiker2 жыл бұрын
@@zachariahyager3115 stop being so literal 🙄🤦🏼
@zachariahyager31152 жыл бұрын
@@cottonhiker Durr but it’s really not a 200 thousand dollar trophy truck 🤦♂️ 🤡
@cottonhiker2 жыл бұрын
@@zachariahyager3115 checkmate
@hdsred7553 Жыл бұрын
Ford for the win!!!
@mapache4742 Жыл бұрын
I have the 2 2023😂👏👏👏
@scottfree64792 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the eco boost and either go full electric or put a v8 in there.
@drgreenthumb8082 жыл бұрын
Guessing you live near sea level
@scottfree64792 жыл бұрын
@@drgreenthumb808 Yes I do. Anything less than a v8 is just not worth it; electric is better.
@Jazzyexplorer2 жыл бұрын
I don't think your test is true indication of how good a vehicle really is off road it's just not realistic to real driving off road driving
@lunamaria10482 жыл бұрын
I thought Ford's performance brand was "SVT"?... Is it no more?... I liked SVT branded vehicles!... My dad had a Mustang SVT Cobra when I was a kid.. I'll NEVER forget that car!
@thiccnicc062 жыл бұрын
Yeah, SVT isn't a thing anymore, I think they changed around 2015 to form Ford Performance.
@collegeboi23882 жыл бұрын
I need a v8 that doesn’t explode on me
@nafsucof Жыл бұрын
it had a front locker. why are you trying to dig deeper holes? set the front locker right away. use the tools dude.
@johnodonoghue651 Жыл бұрын
Did he call himself a Short King?
@TheBigKahuna30002 жыл бұрын
Raptor cool bronco Cooler
@warrenmiconi81412 жыл бұрын
330. IFS is the reason.
@Boeing_7-VH-VXE2 жыл бұрын
I have golden bronco
@TheBigKahuna30002 жыл бұрын
Great looking car F the rest
@jacobjeffs35042 жыл бұрын
Um they are bringing the ranger raptor to the USA
@BruceDragon-sf1tr2 жыл бұрын
Ford lighting should've been in this comparison
@mechmat123452 жыл бұрын
There is no off-road oriented version of the Lightning. Its pretty good because of instant torque, but would need lots of upgrades to be durable and usable off road.
@botchman5947 Жыл бұрын
I want a mustang raptor. Lol
@flawlessvictory_yt794119 күн бұрын
Lesson here? More skinny pedal and you’re fine
@youssefkhaled96662 жыл бұрын
Maybe the body doesn't flex like the Wrangler's does?
@kishanmanpalikhe2 жыл бұрын
why this all not to Volvo ev and ev pickup
@justinbellamy5127 Жыл бұрын
WE NEED A REAL DRIVER BEFORE WE START REVIEWS PLEASE 😂😂😂😂