Ford Raptor vs Chevy TrailBoss vs Ram Rebel vs Titan PRO-4X (Slowest Drag Race: Gold Winch Ep.6)

[@TFLtruck]

Check out the World's Slowest Drag Race #1 here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/boTNlHWhZ96GaZI

[@fredkuhn165]

The point of going off road is driving. This feature is a waste $

[@nechoxd3208]

What about crawl on XD Cummins? please review

[@tommypearson9260]

I have to say guys ,I watched all your Frontier Videos and Decided to mod a Pro4x ,My Truck will do just as good as this Big boys here is what it looks like maybe you guys and test it on one of your challenges lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/op6vhmpnZ9d7rcU

[@billwhiteathome2080]

The Raptor was meant to go over 3' bumps at 60....lol

[@miath]

Bill White and get fix after , :)

[@jimco5852]

miath : not in my experience.

[@T4nkcommander]

not in my experience either. Only of idiots like miath are driving I guess

[@CliffWarren]

Did the Chevy go into cylinder deactivation? lol...

[@PreppedinKansas]

I was curious of a variation of this myself, if they were going up hill, which one produces the most power at idle. it could just be that the it didn't have the power to go lol. PS. i'm a chevy guy so i hope this isn't the case!

[@mikeharper3273]

No helmets?

[@4x4armored92]

Thanks for the great video, but personally i don't believe that the Raptor should be here, why? is on average$ 20,000 more than the other ones. I think the FX4 F150 is the one to be compared.

[@larryburnett100]

Awesome video lots of heart pounding action 👍🔧🔧

[@derek-64]

it was quite exhilarating

[@colliderdc]

Such a great test, well done! Would love to see the new TFL Jeep and Samurai next.

[@slaphands7703]

TIRE SIZE IS IMPROPERLY USED HERE. For example. It requires more torque to rotate a taller heavier tire. Yes you will be faster on perfectly flat ground but the second you are up against an obstacle or an incline the power will lag input will lag more with a taller tire. This is where the torque converter will allow a taller tire to creep along slightly slower than a shorter tire. Which would respond more quickly to power input. So a taller tire can be smoother on the trail.

[@FrankySilverFace]

Video idea....How about this: Traction nannies off, 4WD off, just enough brake to the vehicle in place but no break loading , which truck lays the most rubber from idle. Just get in and punch it!

[@pryme2013]

Tundra with the 4.30 gear set

[@samsonreynolds3728]

Mr M the 4.71 first gear with the 3.92 rear gear in the ram has a lower final drive and 10 more lbft also 15 more hp

[@sergeysmelnik]

Tundra has only 6 gears putting it in 8th place. That means there are 7 truck engine and transmission and rear end combinations that give them a lower final drive. The more gears you have the taller the rear end could be.

[@parkeringersoll973]

I really like the the new truck series Andre!!

[@bryancox9287]

I think this is one of the funniest videos you guys have ever produced....good job...lol

[@poloorona3168]

Can’t wait until you guys get your hands on the 2020 hd trucks

[@IntegraTypeS]

Which truck do you recommend buying the trail boss or the rebel

[@Stuka87]

Should measure the tires from the ground to the center of the wheel, and multiply by two inder to get the 'rolling diameter' as the tire squashes making it shorter. But better test than last time :)

[@squeeb8141]

I love how the raptor is always 1st or 2nd no matter what you are doing

[@pedrocaballero1497]

"The Most Offload Worthy Truck"? Well take them all offload and run them through sand, snow, ice, mud and anything else that is offload. Keep a tractor handy just in case something gets stuck and/or breaks.

[@Rxheaven1929]

I’m proud to build the TrailBoss!

[@AllAboutVehicles]

EXHAUST NOTE: 1. NISSAN TIED FOR 2ND RAM AND CHEVY AND DEAD LAST IS FORD

[@syrenaan252]

Are you accounting for HP and Torque? Cause the rebel probably has the strongest engine so obviously it's gonna go more quickly.

[@timfox2344]

Prolly overthinking it ... Rock crawlers use oversized & airdowned tires, have lots of torque & will floor it over some obstacles and then you got the KIA at Moab Can’t spell Life, without if

[@bobw7305]

They shouldn't even put the raptor in this test. It's in a class of it's own.

[@blakeok952]

Bob W no,it is automakers best off road trucks class

[@bobw7305]

Then it should be a power wagon for RAM if that's the case. The raptors suspension and drive train are in a complete different class than the other 3 trucks in this comparison.

[@mrhyde0705]

Johnson auto plaza, bought my charger there 5 years ago, still got it lol

[@coldnnh6983]

Apparently you don’t like Toyota, no excuses, just get one in your tests

[@kellysilks595]

I'm pretty sure it was on Toyota to supply the truck(s) and they chose not to.

[@chevyon37s]

I wish GM would still offer lower gearing, at least a 3.73 ratio. I know the 10 speed has all the gearing the truck needs but I like lower gearing since I always up size a truck’s tires and would rather have the axle gears take more strain off the transmission, get better acceleration, towing and use of crawl ratio!

[@blakeok952]

Drew w my '99 z71 has a 3.73

[@larrytaylor1222]

chevy sounds best and titan next, the ford just doesnt get with that v6 even tho it is a raptor? and i own a ford f350 with a v10!!

[@T4nkcommander]

When you put out more power with a V6 than many track cars do with a V8, sound comes second. Ford clearly optimized exhaust path, and unfortunately sound takes a hit. But you don't care when you are pedal down offroad.

[@malamberson]

Need to do the rest while dragging about 1000 lbs

[@usernameisusername]

10:22 art of the stretch.

[@jonathanlocke8553]

"It's gonna be tight dad"

[@dronevidsandfreedom]

Raptor sounds good.

[@mrnine324]

Geez that Raptor sounds so pitiful and weeny.

[@bossman927]

Says the guy with the Ram lol

[@mrnine324]

Well duh, my Ram's have all had V8's and sound wonderful, strong, and convey the V8 with actual V8 sound. The Ram on my profile picture was just recently sold, it had the Viper V10, and again, sounds like it should. The only truck in this video with a puny sounding exhaust is the Ford, because no V6 can ever sound like a V8, no matter how much engineering you pour into it. They can get close to, but a person with a trained ear and love of trucks, can hear the lack of a V8 coming from the tailpipe. I'm not dogging on the Raptor as a whole, just this particular model and years where they dropped the V8 for the turbo V6, a large part of the community of Ford lovers were also upset about it, and if I heard correctly somewhere, Ford is planning on putting a V8 back into the Raptor. The Raptor is a purpose built truck, to go fast on uneven terrain, and it does so very well. Only finally, soon, Ram will release a solid competitor to the Raptor, even if it's nearly a decade too late. Haha.

[@bossman927]

@@mrnine324 how are trucks supposed to sound and according to WHO? Everyone has different taste and likes. I am part of that Ford community and the raptor is an incredible truck and I happen to like how it sounds as tons of people also do. And the best thing is that we dont have to worry about rust anymore. Those rams are the rusties trucks out there. I've seed two 2015s and a 16 in town with rust already. So I think I'll stick to my winnie sounding truck lol. Oh by the way, dodge already made a "competitor" for the raptor its called a rebel, how did that work out? Lol

[@mrnine324]

You know, I had a gut feeling that you were one of those snowflakes that gets offended by someone else's opinion. Well, I also assume you are from the north states, hence the rust you see. Down here where I'm from, there are no rusted Rams, except maybe ones that are over 25 years old. The Rebel you mention was NOT meant to be the competitor by any means, it was only the 1/2 ton version of our Powerwagon, even though it lost a lot of the great parts that make the Powerwagon what it is. The one I'm talking about hasn't been produced yet, the Ram Rebel TRX, with the Hellcat engine, giant tires, and likely Fox shocks with insane amounts of travel. This will be built specifically for the same terrain the Raptor was built for, so it will be a direct competitor. Anyways, back to V8 and sound. Since you can't pick up on cues regarding opinion, yes, it is MY opinion that all full-size trucks should have V8's, and sound like V8's. The Raptor, in MY opinion, sounds like a mid-size truck that wishes to be a Honda Civic with a that stupid looking 6inch tailpipe fartcan. Oh, and by the way, Aluminum may not rust, but it does corrode, and pits. So, while steel trucks may be rusting, yours will be looking like grandma's hard crusty white bunion feet.

[@amyheaton2080]

Doesn't matter to the driver of the Raptor: all the other trucks are so far behind he can't hear them! (Except in this race!)

[@jameswalker8443]

Trucks should be going down hill for your test..... Not on flat ground.... Boring test..

[@dustinkeim179]

more power wagon less rebel

[@Jay-hh1sm]

What’s a truck if it isn’t a v8!

[@live_the_moment_with_arnol5661]

Where is the Toyota tundra the best off road truck ever and the best competitor and tech

[@Alex_Gorell]

The titan and the Chevy sound amazing.

[@derek-64]

the titan has a wee bit of a ricer kinda sound there, but the chevy sounds awesome.

[@Bru946]

derek221122 titan has a unique rasp to the sound. Some like it some don't.

[@VikingWolf84]

😂 there’s a thing called exhaust that enhances the sound

[@CliffWarren]

This is the only drag race where Andre doesn't say, "WHAT??? ...... NOOOOOO!!!"

[@JoshuaOverman]

Cliff Warren it’s cause he wanted the Chevy to win he is a Chevy guy

[@ryants1]

Cliff Warren he always loses lol

[@blakeok952]

Ryan S the hummer v big green,the hummer v that suv was awesomr

[@serenityinsilence]

Chevy can win slowest truck even when you’re actually trying to be fast 😂

[@boggin6244]

Ummm, actually I got excited and read the heading wrong... 😂😂😂. You guys are still awesome tho! 👍

[@onedeepmechanic2214]

lee mcally I did the same thing didn’t think it was literally “the slowest drag race” lol.

[@bubblenuts4063]

But then you realize the raptor can crawl better than the rest can

[@T4nkcommander]

And go faster as well. 9 years and still a class of its own

[@jackchristensen7725]

@@T4nkcommander I am a total Chevy guy and actually just purchased the 2019 Silverado LT Trail Boss Z71 - But I agree, and it pains me to say this, that Raptor is pretty sweet. It was definitely built for off road. Having said that, if i added another $15K worth of off road packages to my Chevy, I bet it would give the Raptor a run!?!? You may have already watched their Off Road Comparison video - if not, check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqGsl3WZirGcepo

[@hhohajz]

Recap: 🐆- Nissan 🐏- Ram 🐛 - Ford 🐌-Chevy

[@gopaulsalick507]

Just saw your emojis🤣

[@starhead100]

Ya but I’d still go with the raptor.

[@danr3545]

Tundra wasn’t invited because they knew it would just get embarrassed 😂😂

[@LizardMane]

more like embarrass the rest xD

[@lokkstarproductions6918]

LizardMane Tundra is so far behind. That is because they don’t invest in Tundra. Same truck as it was in 2007 bascially.

[@live_the_moment_with_arnol5661]

The Toyota tundra is way better the the Ford and the Nissan. Toyota would have killed them other trucks easily. They is not a competition there for the Toyota

[@lokkstarproductions6918]

Arnold Corriette i get there is a lot of loyal Toyota fans but the truth is that Toyota is not up to par anymore. Back in 2007-2010 the Tundra was the 1/2 ton truck to beat. No other 1/2 ton came close during that time. But as time went on all the other competitors caught up and surpassed it. Ford, Chevy and Ram invest a lot of their money into large SUV and full size trucks so it’s pretty apparent. I like the Tundra too but just got to admit it, it is no longer the truck to beat. They still have their reliability, just not in the performance category anymore. The zr2 have also outperform the Tacoma as well.

[@live_the_moment_with_arnol5661]

But there is the new 2020 Toyota tundra TRD pro tell them try and compete with that. Even the Toyota tacoma is way out of the leg with it all new of road technology like the crawl control system and ground clearance and its beautiful.

[@bobdennis4801]

How about the Raptor to the articulation ramp?

[@user-vw5je5qo2r]

The chevy Silverado looks sharp in that color combo. Growing on me.

[@Grem135]

growing like a bad fungus.. ugliest chevy truck ever until the 2020 HD that is.

[@blakeok952]

Nope,i only like that color scheme

[@RomaneMaticaliseGordon]

J If you like the look of the Silverado then you should just get an F150 cuz that’s exactly what it is, a knock off F150

[@user-vw5je5qo2r]

@@RomaneMaticaliseGordon I wouldn't compare it to a F150 I had a 2017 crew cab lariat with the 3.5 EcoBoost and that was a great truck, Fast and felt lighter to drive than the truck I had before I bought the ford which was a 2018 chevy crew high country with the 6.0 v8. That truck was also fast just like the EcoBoost. If I were to compare and deside which one was best..... for the long term the chevy all the way, the 6.0 v8 with no turbos is amazing and sounds great. Short term I would of chosen the ford. Loved the ford badass truck as well but personally I prefer an engine with no turbos. Less to worry about in the future. So chevy for reliability. Im in a Ram right now and do miss those trucks :(

[@RomaneMaticaliseGordon]

J Well that’s understandable, however, Turbocharged engines aren’t what they used to be, they are proven to be more reliable than in the past. There are ecoboost engines with close to a million miles still going strong.

[@hapesethathi2742]

Wish you could have told us how long each truck took to get to the finish line. Tip for the next video. Thanks for the content

[@mcwendel8066]

That’s the first Chevy I’ve liked in a long time!!

[@IronClad292]

Actually, I thought the Chevy sounded better.......

[@RSTBKT]

You know, Even when Ford and Chevy are at each other's throat, both can still laugh at their lower competition.

[@jeremyraymond8780]

Since u guys have a trail boss with the 5.3L let's see a drag race between the ram and gm's volume selling engine!!

[@UltraSS-nj8kd]

Jeremy Raymond . Yes

[@nickx831]

Ya, I'm sick of seeing the 6.2. Which is rarely sold.

[@robertjohansen8572]

They ARE the volume selling engines!

[@jeremyraymond8780]

The 6.2 is not a volume engine...do your research

[@samsonreynolds3728]

5.7 ram walks the 5.3. 40hp and 25lbft torque is a big difference and weight is close to the same

[@sylviofleurant2507]

Ford for life

[@zandaughtry7936]

I'm waiting for the GM boys to blast you in the comments

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Ford most recalled truck EVER! Ford leaves ppl on the side of the road! Ford crumples like a beer can after a accident!

[@Inferno45]

Cant wait if gm makes a silverado zr2 that would be sick😎😎

[@Chris-D9]

Err what?

[@Inferno45]

Chris first chevy made a Colorado trail boss then they made the Colorado zr2. Now chevy makes a silverado trailboss so next i am saying they should make a true raptor fighter and it would be the silverado zr2

[@Chris-D9]

Ah... I would imagine they'd have to come up with a different tag since the zr2 is associated with the s10 and colorado...Purhaps re-introduce the Avalanche, lose the original Avalanche body, put the new 2019 body style but with a wider stance, option of the 6.2 or a diesel, locking diffs, sway bar disconnects, 3.73 or 4.10 available for the rear end...I could go on

[@Inferno45]

Chris yeah i agree the avalanche name would be cool for the raptor fighting silverado

[@cheesebone82]

This also doesn't account for torque converter slip, which has a much bigger impact when you're *actually* off-road on very tough terrain as opposed to rolling along a relatively flat surface.

[@mikaelkrukoff8872]

Traded my trd tundra pro4x for the new 2019 rebel...it just rides way better, you actually feel the power...easier to park in lots

[@rumhave9632]

I think Roman touched the brake, but didn't tell. LOL

[@ipdjbt]

He constantly played with the steering wheel. Which surely slowed him down ever so slightly.

[@turtletube]

IM DRIVNG THE MOST CAPABLE OFF ROAD TRUCK!!! that chevy makes

[@carman11]

I think the RAM Rebel would sound the best, but because RAM has focused on making the new 1500 so quiet, they've dulled the exhaust. I've heard a 1500 HEMI straight piped; it sounds properly gnarly. You just can't ignore a 5.7L V8 with proper exhaust. But, having said that, it's a tie between the Chevy and Nissan. Both sound amazing. The Raptor sounds like it's being strangled to death.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Ok, you guys just had a video with the Tundra TRD Pro... WHERE IS IT?!?! I SMELL A CONSPIRACY! THE PEOPLE DEMAND ANSWERS TFL!!!!!!!!

[@kingdaniel3519]

No, we don't.

[@CarsAndZebras]

@@kingdaniel3519 - Hey everyone, we found him! Don't worry, we found the guy that can't take a joke!

[@JohnSmith-ev1sm]

Those v8's sound great, but that ford sounds like it has plastic pistons lol.

[@JamesThomas-dn6ee]

Well it has 450 hp will smoke those v8s

[@blakeok952]

james thomas it has a turbo v6... it should have more power...slap some turbos on the v8s

[@spicysnowman8886]

No a real truck doesn't have hair dryers strapped to the intakes. And has 8 cylinders (for full size at least). And a v6 will never sound as good as a v8 with a decent exhaust.

[@supersnot4]

​@@spicysnowman8886 I could care less about how my truck sounds, all I care about is performance. Turbo V6 makes way more sense for an offroad truck. Lighter block, more power, more MPG, it just doesn't sound as good.

[@zandaughtry7936]

Swaps in a coyote

[@theamateurpowerlifter]

Still a critical variable to factor - idle rpms. 50 to 1 crawl at 100rpms is equal in speed to 25 to 1 crawl at 50rpms. Can't actually say without those calculations.

[@johng4527]

since when does idle speed define a crawl ratio? this little test would have meant something if all of the trucks were ran at the same rpm. about 1500 rpm would be about right i think.

[@RSTBKT]

so both the Ford and the Chevy were pretty good.

[@Dean-zx6nx]

Possibly one of my favorite videos!

[@jayt4697]

I thought the chevy sounded better then the nissan and the other two sounded like dog shit.

[@Moparornocar74]

That was a really interesting result, I'd be curious to see how those trucks do at that speed over obstacles. Maybe do something like that on goldmine and count how many times you have to touch the throttle

[@mgp-bct7723]

Isn’t the Chevy Silverado coming 2020-2021 in or with ZR2??

[@vinceclark6164]

Who ever gives TFL videos a dislike, shouldn’t be watching the videos. Awesome as always TFL 🤜🏻

[@rdone4932]

Yo that Chevy sounded straight gangsta! Nissan only real truck in the mix

[@angelmunoz3709]

Flex test for the raptor

[@foxwithshades7080]

Well its Tundra, Titan, Trail Boss, Ram. I am sure the raptor will be the best or mid pack.

[@angelmunoz3709]

Its gonna be the best but its a good comparison to makee

[@bailey.nt86]

I'm just so sad and waiting for Chevy to put that LT4 supercharged motor (ZL1 & Z06) in a truck...lord please can we put this raptor to bed already...

[@broncobros2022]

With an auto trans your torque converter also has a lot to due with your results the way you did that. Try holding each truck at steady 1000 or 1200 RPM for a set distance. Then you’ll truly know which one has the lowest crawl speed by which truck goes the slowest at the same RPM

[@insomniacryan9916]

The Raptor is so damn impressive. Dead heat with the Chevy, but with larger tires (a good thing off-road) and of course, that simply obscene high-speed performance. ‘Arguably’ the best full-sized off-road truck? The only reason anyone says that nonsense is almost no other vehicle segment has a single vehicle with this kind of dominance. It’s the best off-road truck ever built by an absolutely humiliating margin. Shoutout to the Power Wagon, which actually IS arguably the better rock crawler. Respect.

[@thomaspaul2465]

Man these trucks are incredibly boring. These things will be obsolete in 2020. Ford and GM will be the first to go bankrupt, they already are. FCA will try to hold on but even their 707hp suv is outclassed by the Model X. The new roadster with rocket boosters will accelerate as fast as a human being can keep from passing out, otherwise it can go faster. And for cheaper than a Porsche. Most EV channels get more views than this and all they do is talk EV’s. These manufacturers need to wake up, absolute garbage. Same platform for 20 plus years. Ridiculous.

[@mineshallnotbeinfringed9676]

NO Tundra??????

[@jasonmartineau6441]

Was probably unavailable to them at the time.

[@tubularfool]

What about the tundra? It has a 4.30 rear end. It would be interesting to know what it would be. Also we not gonna talk about how tommy almost took out the pole at the end of the video?

[@robertmorris3892]

The only race anyone should be concerned with is the race on to the tow truck. I can honestly say that I haven't seen any Titans being piggy backed. Definitely not as much as the Queen's Ranch or FiXit4rd

[@brandonwright2067]

You guys should be using the ford fx4 not the raptor this is such a lopsided test. Hey next let’s test a viper against a Mini Cooper 3 cylinder 😂😅.

[@ricardocardenas9933]

I just really think that your testing of the vehicles for off-road is not real life tests for example knowing clearances is good and all that but the reality is we wanna push the trucks to the limits. I know not everybody will aggressively drive there rigs but when people like you test vehicles to there limit it helps consumers like us know in reality what our rigs are capable of

[@dpce86]

You can do the math to get the final crawl ratio, but the amount of slippage in the torque converter will be a significant factor in how slow the truck will crawl when idling. So the most inefficient converter design could potentially win this particular test, meaning the largest speed differential between transmission input shaft versus output shaft speeds.

[@kenwelsh4189]

What a sad test. Good for Chevy though. They need all the help they can get. They shoulda tested their new 4 banger. In the end, there is absolutely no comparison between the Raptor and any, I repeat any other truck in off road tests.

[@leroyroutt4791]

Roman made a big deal about the Raptor safety chain hook up points, he said they were small and hard to reach. The Raptor in this video has hugh loops for the safety chains, what's up with that?

[@boggin6244]

Been waiting for this video! U guys are awesome! 🤘😁

[@protovack]

Ford trucks cost more to repair and break down more often, the rest are tied for reliability and cost of ownership. Don't like ecoboost. Ram is more of a man sedan and the frontier, i mean titan, is just odd looking. It's the trail boss for me.

[@beautifulblue8822]

Regardless of all the tests anyone does, Raptor will always be king. Ford literally throughout history has always made history, the other brands always copy.

[@davidtaylor5811]

I wonder how the PRO-4X Diesel would have performed? Aren't diesel engines the shit off road?

[@Billy123bobzzz]

This test is massively failed. This test needs to be under a lot, going over a rock/log and at a steep angle, which shows which one can go slow when doing something challenging off road.

[@craigquann]

Gm/chev needs a 3.42 with a 33" or 3.73 with a 35" tire.... maybe that will be a future change....

[@bradt2656]

Andre is still my favorite person on this show lol

[@yoyartube]

Slow, but what amount of torque is generated at these slow speeds, that's what I'd want to know for crawling.

[@razormusic6744]

Everyday Nissan!

[@charleswildman137]

As slow as possible, as fast as necessary! And at all times there should be a minimum of 3 wheels touching the ground at all times!

[@mistermetaphor3011]

I love that nissan

[@billroach2393]

Tire pressures??? Did you set them all identical? The lower the pressure, the slower it will go in a test like you just did.

[@jkfaulkner]

The camera has a better look at your tape measure. I think you’re misjudging your tire diameter measurements.

[@nobodyjones813]

At4 with factory 4:10 would be slower than trail boss .

[@ilovetoyotatrucks]

Well Chevy just builds the slowest truck & now they have proof it sucks!

[@ReligiousPerson3435]

Raptor is best

[@zekejaeger920]

Ford of course!

[@jimmyd6695]

Hi guys. I have a question I was hoping you could help me out with. I know you guys will be able to give me an accurate answer based on your great knowledge. I have a 2014 Ram quad cab with the Hemi engine and a 3.55 rear end. I also have timbrins installed on the rear suspension to control squat. I have a 32' camper that weighs 6300 pounds. I believe the tow rating on my truck is 8650 lbs. I also have a weight distribution system. Can I tow this camper safely with my 1500, or do I need a 2500. I have heard many different answers from people I have asked, so I am confused. I need help from people that know about this first hand. I cant think of anyone better that could answer this for me. PLEASE HELP !!......PS I love watching your videos. I would REALLY appreciate your help. Thank you

[@jimmyd6695]

Thank you very much. I really appreciate you getting back to me so quickly !!

[@jameswalker8443]

How about a drag race in low range....????? That would be something to see.!

[@jks52mchsicom]

No Toyota Tundra either TRD Pro or TRD Sport??

[@foxwithshades7080]

Not that I care about the Tundra but it would have been nice to compare.

[@zimks]

It didn’t make it there

[@JamesThomas-dn6ee]

Ran out of gas coming from 2010 lol

[@06MoeJoe]

maybe when they come out with a new one this next decade...

[@Oozywolf]

They had one but it's still on the way to the race