How to Destroy a Perfectly Fine Ford 5.4L 3v Triton Engine with a Timing Job!

In this video we show you just how quicky a timing job can go south on this 2014 Ford Expedition 5.4L 3v Triton Engine. ‪@ford‬ #ford #fordf150 #f150 #timing #automotive #automotiverepair
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[@mattborener835]

This is exactly why I drove the 2.5 hours to get my truck over to you for the bulletproof! Easiest and Best decision I’ve made in auto repair!

[@ronjohnson8816]

Can you share how long the work took and how much it cost? I'm thinking of driving 6hrs to BSG to have this done!

[@mattborener835]

@@ronjohnson8816 it was a 1.5 day process dropped off in the morning went to the hotel for the day it was ready when I checked out the next day. As far as cost I’m not comfortable sharing simply because parts prices may have changed, I also had everything done including roller followers and lash adjusters as well as some other fluids serviced while I was there. Best bet for an accurate price would be to reach out to Brian directly. What I can also share is that he’s super professional and responsive to even the dumbest questions from guys like me. Highly recommend the trip and I think the pricing was fair and also very much in line with having somebody without his experience do the same job.

[@906lane]

I did the same thing and drove over 2000 miles which I drove none stop 26 hours to see Brian and he did the everything and I mean everything and some more and he was able to get it all completed in 2 in a half days. I would say hands down the best money spent and decision made.

[@HannibalAcrotices]

@@906lanehow much was it?

[@906lane]

@@HannibalAcrotices t was the best $6,500 spent Items replaced at 250,000 on original engine and transmission. The following items are replaced during the service: chains, tensioners, guides, tensioner arms, VCT solenoids, phasers, Melling HV oil pump, gaskets and oil change after. two heater hoses, oil pan removal for clean out, all engine mounts, transmission mounts, coolant hoses, new water pump, new spark plugs, new rocker arm, valve lifter, follower lash adjusters. All work was completed and done within 2 days.

[@garymcmullin2292]

Mr Mak, thank you for what is essentially a refresher on the three valve. What you covered you have previously illustrated well, going back I guess 5 or more years ago when you started your channel on the three valve engine. I studied your many videos on the 3 valve and on other subjects like it was my PhD project. Many people in the comments section are behind the 8 ball, several of them did not listen closely to what you said here, they are asking questions for which you have already given the answers again today. As a rule the recommendation is to use OEM Ford parts. The melling high volume pump is recommended and the new chain tensioner design, valve tensioners and followers are recommended, all from Ford except the oil pump. The cam bearing caps are not interchangable nor replaceable, they are made to fit only that head, I can't believe that question was asked in comments, after the time you took explaining that in this video. Finally you rightly stressed the need to do quality tech work, right down to proper cleaning of sealing surfaces and torque of fasteners. It is not rocket science but apparently it is beyond the scope of capability for some professionals and DIY types. I think you need to open some satellite shops, sounds like there would be plenty of business to keep them busy.

[@85rx7se]

I can not say with certainity but there is a good chance the customer bought the Melling kit of Amazon and maybe it was a Chinese counterfeit parts kit

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Summit Racing

[@jamram9924]

Our shop couldn’t get all the parts at the local Ford dealership. We ended up buying a kit from a Ford dealership through Amazon (all packed up in a large box). The only additional items we ordered through Amazon was the Melling engine oil pump.

[@mph5896]

I had a Toyota Cloyes timing chain tensioner seize up on me 6 months after I did the repair. Could have crashed the engine. Not worth aftermarket for critical components.

[@georgeburns7251]

@@FordTechMakulocoI think I saw another KZbinr where they purchased a machined part from Summit that was supposed to have been made from a US company. The customer returned the part to the manufacturer and they found the part was a phony. Be careful

[@xeutoniumnyborg1192]

​@FordTechMakuloco Not much difference. Bought some Gorilla lug nuts from them to replace the sorry 2 piece ones on my F150, but that's about it.

[@lambition]

Exactly why I don't take my vehicles to the shop. Unfortunately, most shops don't really know what they are doing.

[@justingoats9155]

Yeah for something this technical it’s very possible they will mess somthing up like incorrectly torquing phasers, not getting new phaser bolts, wrong timing, not changing vvt solenoids, not cleaning gaskets well etc…

[@RejectReality97]

It's because most shops don't pay crap. I get 15 an hour and I'm doing things as invasive as this to vehicles. I'm just trying to use this as a jumping off point to a better employer. My boss hates how long I take on stuff but I'm not doing stuff wrong just to ruin my reputation.

[@alkalize]

@@RejectReality97 Yep, they'll moan and complain that young people don't want to work, failing to realize that they pay worse than McDonalds, with less benefits and YOU are responsible for buying tools which will set you back a grand.

[@justingoats9155]

@@RejectReality97I’m a mechanic too you will get there. Often times leaving is the best choice, there are a lot of jobs open for mechanics. I’d recommend a dealership or CarMax for better pay. I work at CarMax currently

[@operationbs7610]

I did my own timing job using your videos because I knew this could happen to me. I only use my expy for towing my rv now but your videos saved me. It took me a lot of time and I did make some mistakes along the way but nothing serious just a little time. These engines are so resilient I'm just shocked at all the hate they get. Over 300k miles so far..always start always gets me home

[@steveturner3999]

My 2006 F-150 Lariat Super Crew 5.4 3v has 272,000 miles and has only had two sets of plugs and an intake cleaning. Everything else is original. Switched to 5W30 full synthetic years before I found Brian’s channel and his recommendation. Pulled a fifth wheel travel trailer multiple times a year until my wife died 3 years ago. Absolutely love this truck.

[@ilovemydad1416]

Same here but my 06 has 240k on it. I’m thinking it’s time to freshen her up. Edit: my condolences only read the first half of your comment, side not I switched it up after finding his channel. Can you guess how I found his channel? 😅

[@GixxerRider1991]

Sorry for your loss.

[@markk3652]

Check your truck frame. My 2006 died of frame rot, the 5.4 3v was running strong at 156,000 miles, the frames rot from the inside out. By the time you notice it, it’s already too late to save it. I didn’t want it to break apart on the highway unexpectedly, it had to go.

[@steveturner3999]

@@markk3652 My frame is perfect. I live very far away from the salt and rust belt.

[@RejectReality97]

​@@markk3652There's a video of how strong those truck frames really are even incredibly rusted. Junkyard Digs did a video on it.

[@mikescaffo4850]

This is why I fix my own stuff because a lot of shops just don't care or have the right people to do good work you are someone I would trust to do the job right

[@tinkerscorner54]

Amen. It takes me longer than it used to, and I get sore as all get out and hurt for days afterward, but I still do it at 64 for the same reasons.

[@monstersquashracing]

I love your channel man. You do amazing work. Over the years of everything you have shown us has made me decide that with all the crappy cars that are produced and crappy mechanics in the country witch is probably about 99% of them I think its about time to go back to the old cars and trucks from the 70s and 80s. My old carb chevy Silverado gets 17mpg a d has 289k miles on it and ive changed the water pump, plugs and wires and it still runs good and has decent compression. Never costs me any money.

[@WADEDESTROYS]

Can’t beat em

[@mikeosterhaus9028]

Brian, just saw this video and as a result we have reviewed this and can state that the timing chain shown is not a Melling chain. The Melling chain has the same smooth finish as the Ford OE chain.

[@MichaelStoneqm3]

I've got $1800 worth of ford arts on my floor here getting ready for major tuneup PLUS all of your suggested parts (from most recent videos 2024 aug.) But now I have to find a good ford mechanic because my ford dealership says he refuses to do it because I have an old 2006 f150. 🥵🤬 Hard to find a good mechanic, wish I was near your garage.

[@kenneth6382]

After a year of back and forth, i ve decided to build a 351 for my ‘05 F150. In my state theres no inspections, and i know a nice, civil build will run better and i gaurantee it will outlive my $5,000 3valve engine rebuild. The donor truck was $1,200… I ll loose some OEM functions, but who cares? A nice set of ol school gauges, an edelbrock setup and FASS injection,we gone! I ve built several chebbies, fords and mopars. Just give me a pushrod motah…. PLEASE

[@jeffreyking2604]

Thanks to your videos, I just did a timing Job on my 05 f250 with 236,000 miles. It made my truck run great again

[@saltymofo5870]

Make All Fords Great Again!!

[@lrmustangdude]

Been running a Cloyes kit with Melling HV oil pump on my 09 Expedition for probably 60k and no issues. Quiet and smooth. Did the job myself using some of his tips and been fine ever since.

[@matthew1992ya]

Those cloyes chains like to snap in half

[@1Cobranut]

@@matthew1992ya That's odd. I used a Cloyes timing kit on both my Explorer 4.0 SOHC and my Duratec Race car. In both cases the chains in the Cloyes kits were marked with the Morse brand, just like the OEM chains. They also appeared identical to the original chains. Same with the sprockets.

[@robertbell525]

We put a Cloyes timing set in my son's 2012 Regal GS and thankfully it's been fine. I thought Cloyes was a good brand. We were concerned with going OEM GM since that set gave out at only 105K.

[@repro7780]

As much as it hurt, this is why I had the timing job done at Ford on my 2014 Explorer Sport. Some Independent's might say, sure we'll do it, but have done few.

[@KStewart-th4sk]

Any competent mechanic should be able to do this job. Some of that shoddy work says hack even though they agreed to use parts that the customer wanted to use.

[@renj6531]

@@KStewart-th4sk not tightening the crank bolt properly and reusing it ( torque to yield ) is just incompetent and thus their negligence cos the customer t more money because now the crank is compromised.

[@r.weaver3769]

Unfortunately, a great many shops are this bad. Some don't even try to repair these engines, they diagnose in the parking lot, "You need a new engine". Probably because they are incapable of doing it right to begin with. Like a certain popular KZbinr who puts a new engine in every Ford truck he touches no matter how low the mileage is. Claims they cannot be fixed, beoken from the factory, he says.

[@cripplemanatee]

Just hit 355k on my 04 5.4L. Still runnin strong

[@davidobrian5623]

My 06 hit 376k before finally going out

[@calholli]

You can't ask much more out of it. lol.. Her days are numbered

[@cripplemanatee]

@@calholli facts. Got every penny out of er tho. Will miss it when it finally goes.

[@mikelemoine4267]

​@@calholli I know a Ford tech who works on E350 airport shuttle vans. They recently replaced an engine on one of the vans at 960K. It was all original and still ran fine but they transport seniors from the Villages to the Orlando Airport (roughly 60 miles) and didn't want to risk it letting go and breaking down. Granted it's all highway miles and maintenance was kept up, but it shows that these can last if cared for. They had a bunch of "low mile" vans with only 400K on them and no plans to rebuild anytime soon. He wasn't so fond of the new Transit vans that they started buying, I'm guessing those won't last that long without major repairs. These two guys may still have some time left!

[@rollenschultz2707]

I suspect you guys are changing oil on a regular basis

[@ozzstars_cars]

Thanks for the info Brian!

[@mikimiki195]

Love the videos 👍🏻 I did timing chain job on my 5.4L 3v I followed your video step by step and buy only ford parts except Melling oil pump Truck is still running no problems

[@randybeard6040]

No one in my Neck of the Woods likes to work on these 5.4 Triton Engines, my neighbor who has been a mechanic for 40 years at local Chevy/Toyota Dealership changed plugs on my truck at 100,000, he soaked the plugs threads down overnight with penetrating oil and eased all the plugs out with manual socket set, didn't break any plugs, he has done several since then the same way--all good results...

[@lsteck4399]

When doing this work, what would be the best way to keep the cam parts in the right order? Some kind of soft stamping on the parts or just a magic marker!

[@christuttle3980]

Don’t try and save a couple bucks by going to a shop that can save you a couple hundred bucks… it will cost you thousands

[@irogers858]

Even top dollar shops can butcher your trucck. Its really hard to find anyone reputable to do the work right.

[@stephenlineman]

excelent live by it

[@nelly713pressuahh8]

@@irogers858no it isn’t y’all just scary bc y’all think every mechanic is this and that 🥱

[@davidworsley7969]

Price alone is no guarantee of quality.

[@justingoats9155]

Doing this job yourself will save you thousands. Luckily we have these how to videos on doing this exact job correctly. Just did this job last month and the truck runs great 👍

[@jessecorrette6249]

I did a full timing job on my 08 f-250 and pulled the heads new lifters etc and runs like new !!! Thank you soo much for putting these videos out !!!!

[@Jimmy-nv7mn]

I followed your videos and did a timing job on my 2010 F-150. I used all OEM parts except the Melling high volume oil pump. It's been almost 15k miles now, I was just starting to be able to sleep at night thinking I must have done okay. After watching this video I'm afraid I'll be waking up with cold sweats again wondering if I torqued everything right and if I got the cam caps back in the right spots and if... Dammit I hate you! Thanks for the great video and all your help. I know you've saved me thousands.

[@rosshall641]

We would also throw a 4 by 8 sheet of plywood on top of the table lay everything out the way it was disassembled

[@jamram9924]

Our shop has performed the timing chain, tensioners, guides and roller followers from Ford (in accordance with Brian’s recommendations on this channel) The only non-Ford part we used was the Melling HO engine oil pump. That 2009 F-150 has over 25,000 miles since this service. The truck had 198,000 miles when this procedure was performed. We saw those Melling cast iron tensioners, but we chose to go with the upgraded Ford tensioners.

[@Traxxis03]

Are you saying your shop did this job? I'm confused...

[@Nick-xs3bg]

You gonna reply to the first question?

[@Traxxis03]

@@Nick-xs3bg so I'm not the only one that wondered?? That's good to hear. 😂

[@JimBronson]

​@@Traxxis03no, he said it was a 2009 F150. The vehicle in the video is a 2014 Expedition.

[@dgruvers]

Trying to save a few dollars with inferior parts, just don't get it.

[@TheMulk777]

If you can't find a good shop like Maculoco, then just watch his videos and do it yourself... It will save you thousands

[@JamesAgans]

I preemptively did a timing job on my 04 at 153k, following Brian's 4 part series. When I took off the front and valve covers, everything was perfect. I put a pint of MARVEL MYSTERY OIL in at every 5 k change. I did the timing job,melling hv oil pump, new followers and lash adjusters. ONLY USE FORD OEM PARTS. My truck now has 170k, runs like a watch.

[@AlanPhillips-g1c]

You do everything right except for the Marvel Mystery Oil LOL

[@JamesAgans]

@@AlanPhillips-g1c well, I'm 77, and I've been using it since I worked in a transmission shop starting at 11 yrs old on the advice of an old timer. Now I'm an old timer, and I still use it in every piece of equipment with an ICE engine I own. I also read a recommendation in American Modeler magazine to use it to winterize my little glow plug engines. My vehicles are a 1994 F150, and a 2004 F150. Both run like swiss watches. So I think I'll keep doing it my way.

[@john0270]

@@AlanPhillips-g1c i would agree, do not add contaminants to your engine oil!

[@DaveBigDawg]

I bet the other shop was proud of the work they did to rip off the customer

[@jamram9924]

From where I can see, their bad job was not attributed to poor surface preparation. This failure appears to be based on the owner’s choice of substandard parts.

[@mph5896]

The harmonic balancer torque is the big one on that job. Along with using the plastic tensioners when the customer paid for metal. Surface prep done is no concern

[@westhavenor9513]

@@jamram9924 What about mixing up the camshaft caps and not torqueing the harmonic balancer bolt properly?

[@jamram9924]

@@westhavenor9513 we followed the guidelines on torque specifications and numbered/marked the camshaft caps.

[@mph5896]

@@westhavenor9513 Brian made an assumption the cam caps were mixed up. Not a fact. The aluminum heads where the cam rides are quite often beat up and grooved since ford decided to use the aluminum surface as a bearing

[@stephenlineman]

first mistake buying a ford w TRITON 2nd letting someone else work on it you cant trust 95% of shops

[@topsecretmx5142]

Tritons are fine if you fix the known issues he’s proved it over and over. Terrible work on the other hand there’s no fix for that.

[@rosshall641]

That's why you run 5 w 40 synthetic in a 5.4 Triton! 5 w 20 is water in heat

[@DS-ss7vl]

I'll stick with my OHV.

[@alans.7733]

The confusion with Melling is due to them selling different grades. Theres a “service” grade and “professional” grade. I contacted Melling about the difference between the two. According to them the service grade is mostly import parts while the professional line is mostly US made (Ford OE) parts. But they didnt specify which parts were what. I just installed their professional grade with iron tensioners, Ford phasers/solenoids and Ford camshafts a couple months ago. Runs fantastic on an engine with 179k. Ive also used Melling on my 4.6 2v and its got 70k on it that kit. Not a single hiccup. Not all Melling stuff is junk. You need to do your own research though.

[@firstlast---]

So how did you know you got professional grade?

[@alans.7733]

@@firstlast--- theyre listed as such on rockauto

[@firstlast---]

@@alans.7733 is that what the s means at the end of the part number?

[@beatachevy289]

I did the same for my 3.5 Ecoboost. I ordered the professional timing kit from Melling through O’Reilly. It was chains, tensioners, guides, crank sprocket. Every single part had the Ford Motorcraft part number rubbed off with what looked like a dremel. Held up next to the OEM parts, they were exactly the same, just with a literally rubbed off FoMoCo part number. I used OEM phasers, but in the case of my Ecoboost, Melling seems to be supplier of the Motorcraft parts. There were zero casting issues or differences between what I removed from my engine.

[@alans.7733]

@@beatachevy289 that was my hunch. Melling would do good to reach out and clarify all this with Brian. They’d sure sell a lot more kits by doing that.

[@troyfordguy1345]

I really feel for this customer... I have an 03 2v 4.6L with 292K miles, the timing chain guides started making a hell of a racket during cold starts and would eventually subside when the truck warmed up. But then during warm idle in gear I would lose oil pressure (Timing guide debris was blocking my oil pickup!) This all happened about 3 weeks after I bought the truck so I decided to replace everything. I used the Cloyes timing set, and a Melling HV pump. But I also took the oil pan down, cleaned everything out, parts of the tensioners were in the pickup tube screen blocking it partially, the rest were in the bottom of the oil pan. If you ever have timing guide failure you MUST pull the pan & pickup tube out to get them clean. Added bonus... when I was buying this truck from the previous owner he said that he had new heads put on it due to a head gasket failure... I looked and indeed they were new heads, but not new cams, not new timing components... WHY would someone do that!!?? Well I also found out that timing was off on bank 1 by 4 teeth... yes, 4 teeth! I had been chasing down a rich code and THIS was the reason, unfortunately this was too little too late for my passenger Catalytic Converter. God knows how long the previous owner was driving on this. I've replaced upper and lower intake manifold gaskets, valve cover gaskets and oil pan gaskets along with the timing cover gaskets and a new crank seal. Also all new coils, spark plugs & Injectors. Now that all of this is done I don't think I'll have any issues, I also use 5w-30 Mobil 1 full synthetic instead of 5w-20. This Truck has never run so good and been so quiet! All I hear is the Injectors ticking away, I'm Looking forward to another 200K. I do have plans to build an engine on the side with some work done to it in the meantime though, cores are cheap and I can just start building something to put into it if and when it's not worth fixing the existing engine. Thanks for everything you do Brian, I know I didn't use all Ford parts on this but I follow all of your procedures and of course I RTFM. 😃

[@calholli]

So the main conclusion is that they just mixed up the wrong cam caps? Are you sure they didn't just leave the pickup tube unhooked or something more simple like that? It's crazy to think the cam journals are leaking so badly that it drops oil pressure. lol.. But the grit in that pan is definitely a bad sign.. what a mess.. (well, I guess the oil pressure is bad because the pump was ruined). I always thought it was weird that the oil filter comes AFTER the pump.. which means that any grit still goes through the pump first-- making it almost pointless to even have a filter.

[@CharlieTheCarpenter]

A good mechanic is always underpaid!

[@flipphonewizard5448]

Where are all the aftermarket suppliers at? Ask a few companies to join in an give this owner a brand new engine with a few more add ons to the Truck. You'll get more viewership but most importantly a good feeling deep down inside.

[@corbin6564]

I have to redo my 2010 mustang 4.6L 3v. I brought the ford performance kit. I should be fine right?

[@chrisretired5379]

Thank you for this video ! I guess I’m going to set aside my new Melling parts for the 5.4 2 valve, and try to obtain all Ford for timing set. 1998 Exp.

[@mikechiodetti4482]

That's an ongoing problem for many many years now. Aftermarket parts simply don't have the quality put in them like OEM parts, and consequently that leads to engine destruction. My 06 Nissan Frontier had the two chain tensioners that tighten the small intake cam gears to exhaust cam gears chains wore out and making variable noise as the vehicle accelerated. Fortunately I got into it before the metal to metal contact could lead to specs of metal inside the engine. Anyway, I hope the customer gets the vehicle fixed correctly and it's back in service soon. Good one Brian.

[@paulkrutulis9549]

I remember speaking with gentleman. He was dropping his truck off at Brian's while I was picking my Explorer up from there. Darn shame; his Expedition looked really clean.

[@curtisbacon7856]

Now you're making stuff up there's no such thing as a perfectly good 5.4 l 3-valve

[@FordTechMakuloco]

It was

[@Slugg-O]

This is a great example of the difference between a technician and a parts changer. I feel bad for the owner. I don't know many people who can afford 10K to fix this mess. Hopefully the other shop will cover it. I doubt it, but maybe they will after receiving some encouragement

[@mikelemoine4267]

Yeah and in the rust belt putting $10K into an older vehicle is not feasible anyway as the body will rot off before a new engine wears out. At least if he takes them to court he'll have a nice video showing all of the faults!

[@willbenner3]

The other shop should pay 100% of the replacement cost. 10k is enough to go to court over.

[@TheEnthusiastMechanic]

When a shop doesn't know what they are doing they should just say so and let the job go to a place that knows how to do it to avoid this situation.

[@F150PullsBayliner]

I have an 07 5.4L F-150 with 183k miles. Engine has never quit on me but there is a loud ticking noise coming from it and it’s been there a long time. What could it be?

[@tongtongwang]

Follower? Tensioner?

[@F150PullsBayliner]

@@tongtongwang Ended up just being an exhaust manifold leak lol. Ford dealer said timing components and wanted to put in a new engine 😂

[@davidwallace3224]

This is why I shipped my Expedition almost 700 miles to you instead of using anyone else.

[@D2O2]

Just aweful! I can hear the disgust in your voice. Thanks for sharing. You are the real Ford Boss!

[@paulfiebke3909]

Haven't seen you in a while, keep up the good work. Always love watching and learning something new from you

[@Internutt2023]

How, and why, does Melling make a good oil pump replacement, but such crap for the timing kit parts? I mean that timing gear had to almost be made with an insufficient thickness to be moving around that bad on the crankshaft. Crazy! Also, good info on the camshaft caps, that's something that most wouldn't realize, and they need to be removed and placed on a rack in order of removal to be kept in order.

[@KStewart-th4sk]

@@-BlackBird7 Exactly, why do people watch a video, yet not pay attention? What do they think is holding the components in place especially when he says it's not press fitted! Even if it was i wouldn't want a crankshaft bolt installed and not torqued. I had the clutch replaced on my FWD many years ago which involved removing transmission/drive train. Quite sometime later i heard a noise, thought a wheel bearing was going. Even bought a new bearing planning to replace it on the weekend and discovered they forgot to torque the CV axle in the hub! That's what the noise was. Checked the other side too but i forget now if it was torqued properly. Mistakes can happen--mechanic interrupted, went for lunch, and forgot he hadn't done it?

[@jamesrichardson645]

Interestingly, Melling also make the FORD OEM Timing Phaser.

[@ekimbrough1413]

But who's bright idea was it at FORD to mate Aluminum camcaps with metal camshafts??? That's a DESIGN FLAW right from the beginning! I'm sorry...but aluminum in engine design may lighten the engine: but it LIGHTENS the durability as well!

[@paulhudgins5120]

Truly sad snow ball effects, cheaper parts, crappy shop work equals, a lot of money for crappy repairs, and now he needs a new motor for 112K miles is a shame of it all, my 04 Mustang GT 2V needed a timing job before 120K because of the previous owner did extended oil changes probably with conventional oil, the timing components looked like 180K to 200K on them.

[@WhittyPics]

If I ever need a timing job I want ALL OEM parts

[@xeutoniumnyborg1192]

The ONLY way to go.

[@thatrealba]

Sure, until OE parts are unavailable.

[@stepheniegonzalez8667]

Help!!!!! Just had complete timing on my 2006 Lincoln mark Lt… guides,tensioners, chains, crank bearing, vvts, new oil pump, new coils, new spark plugs, guide tensioners, camshaft phasers, and it just threw a p0012 code… I’m completely frustrated… please help… thank you

[@mikezahnow1605]

I had a 2006 f150 xlt lariat with the 5.4 triton. Had tune up done at 100,000 and broke 2 plugs, couldn't extract them so pulled the heads. New phasers and all new timing stuff at the same time. Very expensive 6400 dollar tune up. Ford reimbursed me 3500 through a class action law suit on the breaking plug issue. Totally not impressed with the 5.4 triton. Traded an 18 year old truck in on a new f150 with the 2.7 twin turbo last week. I am amazed at how close it performs to the 5.4 I had. Best part I can pull 28 mpg on a good day not towing. Time will tell how long it lasts.

[@heathg2681]

I bought a 2017 ford explorer police vehicle and have to change the PTU. I`ve been watching this creator's videos. Sadly, mine while it's working it is leaking fluid, the seals are shot. I have ALLDATA DIY so I'm looking up all the parts and so forth. Mine has the oil cooler which adds another variable because you either need to cap the pipes when removed really quick, or you drain the coolant.

[@rodcroan6304]

I currently have a 2004 f 150 4x4 with the 5.4. Your info for said motor is extremely well done. At 181 k miles there is just starting to very lightly rattle. It is really starting to bother me. My shop is quoting $12,000 to do exactly what you do with complete new Ford everything and 30000 mile warranty. Truck is beautiful and used for windshield farming .

[@eluv9660]

Having trouble finding any info on the 4.6l 4v (32valves total) engine reliability. Do they have similar problems to the 5.4 and 4.6 3v? Any info would be appreciated. Looking at a 2005 lincoln aviator with a rough running issue.

[@eliteman7685]

Timing chains are SUCH a problem these days! Used to be you could get USA made TC sets and good quality. These days a lot of these TC sets have chain coming out of India or China and absolute garbage. I had to go through hell finding a good chain for my 351C and luckily the cam company I used, the chain was out of Germany. You could so tell the difference in Quality!!

[@davidrush8283]

Would it be good to start to run f150 with 155'000 miles with Shell Rotella T6 5W-40 Diesel Engine Oil, 1 Gallon? Thank you for your time.

[@colinelliott8768]

Want to drive a mechanic batshit crazy and piss them right off? Buy your own parts and ask them to install them!!! One I know orders from 3 different suppliers for the same part to find ONE that actually fits/works. DIY on your time taking a chance with Rockauto etc is one thing. If you find a GOOD, HONEST mechanic now? Let em do what they're good at and PAY them for it. Worth it in the long run. And avoid crap vehicles. Have fun with that now...

[@billk8780]

I am NOT an EV fan by any means. But strictly speaking regarding the drive-train this video shows why an EV should have fewer maintenance issues.

[@ctbale1]

Look at the pins on those chains. Aftermarket is only double peened. The fomoco has splines. Aftermarket junk

[@1978buickman]

The Melling service grade kits come with the cast iron tensioners and a Chain that looks identical to a ford OEM chain, Made in USA to boot, the Crank gear also is alot more quality than their cheaper kits!

[@UQRXD]

Shop not knowing how the heads were designed for the camshaft is inexcusable. Not cleaning gasket surfaces, did not torque the one time use bolt, and sure got all kinds of dirt in the engine. The first time I saw a chain replacement video I knew the caps and heads had been line bored. I intend to do the chain job on a 4.6 2 valve engine. After seeing this I will buy OEM parts. The aftermarket chains are terrible. I see exactly what you mean and that back side of the chain is the part that runs on the lousy plastic guides. The whole set up from non replaciable cam bearings, and the plastic guides is not the greatest. But they have to sell new vehicles. I use to rebuild marine diesels some were multimillion dollar engines. I know what well made engines are. But his job is a walk in the park if you know how to do it with the right tools. The timing tool is very important and makes the job easy and foolproof. I always change the oil at 3500 miles and use 5w30. 152,00 so far and runs fine. My bet is tensioner fails before the chain in most cases. Great video thanks.

[@lost0187]

The guy who put this motor together did an absolutely atrocious job he or she should find another career. This person should stick to pushrod engines or lawnmower setups. Ford has a very specific way things need to be done and very few parts can be sourced outside of the actual OEM assemblies. Anyone who does this kind of work needs to take there time follow the proper guides such as ALL DATA or the equivalent guides and do the job right the first time. For a customer who probably put close to 3k into this young motor only to have it destroyed is just ridiculous. I’m sure they are now just wishing they didn’t have anything fixed it probably would have gone 250k as long as properly maintained.

[@DallasCole]

Good morning. Is there a good way to tell if I for sure need a timing job if the vehicle isn't running? I have a 2012 expedition with the 5.4. It just stopped going down the road. i have fuel to the rail and replaced the cam sensors as that code is showing up in forscan. I haven’t been able to get it to start since. I sure appreciate the knowledge you share in your videos.

[@rtcoleman3626]

I got an 05 F-150 with a 5.4 Triton in it I haven't had any major problems with the motor not one I got 320,000 on it I've rebuilt the front end now I need to replace the bed other than that I love the truck

[@ronaldbrosius7488]

I believe Melling makes a great oil pump. I think alot of the wear might be from bad install, not priming the pump properly 🤔

[@azrios]

Look at the end play of the crankshaft, due to thrust bearing failure = oil pressure loss. Possibly a bad torque converter/transmission.

[@Dragorus360]

Need help. 2004 f150 fx4 rebuilt trans from very reputable shop....there is a clunk from 1st to 2nd shifting and a drop in rpm and power then it resumes. This is intermittent with no codes on dash..had pedal and Throttle body checked for sync issues and all is good....any ideas what to check? Driveline was checked and seems fine. Bought the vehicle used last year and don't know if a programmer or tuner was used on the truck. Truck has 35s on it and speedo reads correct so assuming Maybe a program or one was at least used to adjust that. Transmission guy says that it's not them. I don't know where to go from here.

[@malekodesouza7255]

Shitty, cheap, aftermarket parts installed by a hack-job shop. Jeezus…🤦🏻‍♂️

[@bionicman6969]

Was just in the game hunting for a used truck and had great luck with my old 96 F150 5.0, got over 300k hard working and off road miles and she still runs good but the truck has too many issues to keep throwing $ at. Had 10k cash and was really wanting a newer Ford but with that little amount of money was such a gamble with these Triton powertrains, some guys get 400k or more miles and some blow up under a 100k. Said to hell with it and bought a Tundra.

[@ToyManFlyer1100]

Yikes, I know owning one of these newer vehicles is expensive 😫 😩 😭...But, people you have the Internet and YOU can call a fella like "Dr. Mikulsko " ,get a quote and start saving up for the best repair and parts...OR you can end up like this customer...BUY ONCE...CRY ONCE...Even a junkyard motor ain't no guarantee...Why, coz eventually you gonna need this job done or get rid of the vehicle...This vehicle new is about $60,000.00 USD...Your choice...😮😮😮

[@TheRetarp]

Newer? Far from it. This suv is 10 years old! The 5.4 3v is a 20 year old design!

[@spudboyQ]

Can the journal caps be turned 180°? If not, what markings indicate proper installation?

[@tomanonbear]

Do you have any experience with e fan conversions? I'm going to put one on my 2005 f250 with the 5.4l 3v.

[@josephmorrone2660]

Doting “ I’s “ & crossing T’s That’s what happens at BSG ! Great Job !

[@xxkingslayemxxgamer5553]

My friend has a f 150 with 4.6 with 526000 miles and looks as good as that engine i just put valve cover gaskets on it

[@milfordcivic6755]

When people scream about having to change timing belts - I will refer them to this video. Timing chains are not more reliable and cost a lot more than doing a timing belt, crank seal and water pump every 100K

[@hauntastic158]

My 2013 Expedition is at 204,000 and just started chain chatter, after seeing all that can go wrong and all the parts that need to be done. I am just getting a reman engine from a reputable manufacturerte

[@rtz549]

Hated these series engines ever since they came out. Weak V-10s in all the U-Haul trucks and a little 4.6 that's physically larger then a 460.

[@brianlykins6663]

I hope the shop makes it right for the guy. I can see a lawsuit in the future. I have an 06 F150 with 5.4. I would love to put a 4.6 or older 5.0. Got any suggestions? Thanks for all that you show us and for doing jobs the way they should be done.

[@martinmartinez8161]

What a shame! These motors get enough of a bad rap as it is, and then you've got shops doing this type of "work."

[@Jeff_Pendleton]

My 2009 F150 only has 120K and sounds great. But I feel like its a ticking time bomb. Realistically, when should I set up my appointment with you Brian? I wouldn't hesitate to drive it up from Dallas right now, but once the problems start I would not want to take it that far. And, how long would you need my truck?

[@MichaelStoneqm3]

The Ford store on Amazon gave me the plastic tensioners, can we demand the steel? Thank you

[@DarrenMazza]

Is anyone else experiencing digital compass issues. When I head N my compass say S. East and west are correctly displayed. PNW area.

[@jonathanandrews1407]

Been watching your videos for years! My Mark LT has over 375,000km with a 93 octane tune and pulls amazingly! All thanks to you melling and ford oem parts!

[@davidortiz173]

You know what compounds this problem? The mechanic is forced to work within the flat rate time so this increases the probability of mistakes being made and shortcuts being taken!

[@Internutt2023]

Sad, yes, and could be a compounding factor.

[@ghostwrench2292]

Flat rate doesn’t help but it’s also not an excuse. The basic knowledge of keeping the cam caps in order and facing the right direction is not due to flat rate pay.

[@Kenny-iq6zv]

Hell , I’m screwed too much. Can go wrong seeing all this.

[@gregsidel3557]

Thank you very much for the video you told me a lot

[@kd7cwg]

I just did a cam/rocker replacement on a dodge 3.6. I marked every cam cap with a sharpie so no mixups can occur. The timing system in the 3.6’s seem pretty solid, but the rockers/fillers are pretty common failure point

[@andyrice3242]

I always have to fix my vehicle's myself but i don't have the confidence to try to do a timing job

[@lost0187]

The chain I absolutely see it the ford chain is made with flat links the melling it rounded it would definitely make sense it would ware out guides. Your videos are so informative I will tell you this my 08 expedition is nearing 250k is under boost and I’m has never been opened up for internal work. I will eventually do the lash adjusters and rollers but until I hear or notice a vct issue it’s staying the way it came. I do my own maintenance religiously and I also do all my own calibration work this maybe why I have had such good luck with my truck.

[@lost0187]

I always number my cam caps if they are ever pulled for motors I work on. You can’t mix them up because if I’m not mistaken the cam bores are line honed after a head is built and each cap belongs to it specifically tower.

[@scottymoondogjakubin4766]

Did you mean 112 k and barely broken in ? Or 112 k and already broken ?

[@rosshall641]

In the old days we would Mark that with the center punch on each one even when there was no marks on the main bearings so you know which one went where but nobody gives a s*** today they want to sell you a new one

[@Tysonv1983]

Always so informational thank you. Have an 07 that needs to be. Gonna have to bite the bullet an take it to the dealer I hope that's the best place to. 🤞

[@edwardhegarty750]

It's a damper. It damps vibrations. A dampener is something that moistens.

[@jamesanderson4014]

Very bad job and some questionable parts on an expensive engine. Wow!!

[@ironworkerfxr7105]

I tell customers "The sweetness of a cheep price is far outweigh by the bitter taste of poor quality" "

[@teecuzbruh4058]

Just terrible spending a ton of money for that to happen. These must must at least 4 grand by now

[@curtesamoangelos5995]

Watching from Yosemite Kentucky.

[@brianhowe4875]

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