Forehand Topspin Made Simple Part 2 | eBaTT Tutorial #40

[@KANA-rd8bz]

this is "multichanneled" explanation! love it! especially the drawing part

[@ebatt8803]

Thank you so much 🙏🏓

[@wywilliamho]

Thsnk you for your lesson & love the Ictoria Arbour Painting, blessings from Hong Kong.☺️

[@ebatt8803]

Thank you 🙏

[@frankaylwardjr4986]

These videos just keep getting better and better. You cover strokes with such depth I cant wait for BH, thanks EBATT!

[@ebatt8803]

You’re very kind, but you’re going to hate me as I’m going to take a break until we go back to normality, I want to produce tutorials on the table and provide better quality alongside Guy, forgive me for now 🙏🏓

[@frankaylwardjr4986]

eBaTT I understand, and thank you for the heads up. Hopefully Normality is sooner rather then later, Stay safe in the mean time.

[@pohhocktan3184]

I hope my table tennis will improve to the next level after following your excellent advice on forehand attack.

[@ebatt8803]

I hope so too 🙌🏓

[@Joygulplay]

I've been following your lessons during this quarantine and when I went back to the table I was playing better than ever before. Thank you so much for all these videos you make! Keep it up.

[@ebatt8803]

Joygulplay you’re very kind and I’m super happy to hear the benefits from my videos. As I’m stuck at home I’ve decided to take a break until I can go back on a table with Guy and other guests to help people even more 🙏

[@mundomediainvestments1670]

Great and practical videos. Thanks

[@kb1794]

Very nice video👌👍

[@ebatt8803]

K Jagdeo-Bailey 🏓🙏

[@pohhocktan3184]

Very good and clear explanation.

[@ebatt8803]

Thank you 🙏🏓

[@zitabayr1309]

Thank You, love your lessons .

[@ebatt8803]

Zita Bayr thank you for your kind words 🙏🏓

[@batcaver]

Great video with a lot of useful tips ! Personaly i think i like this sport because it is not simple ! that's precisely why it makes it sooo interesting ! i've started 6 years ago and still improving, thanks i will use this for exercising

[@ebatt8803]

batcaver bat love it 😊

[@gopisettibhaskararao714]

Very simple and comprehensive explanation 👌. I have become a huge fan of you after watching the video of playing side spin. One doubt - How to hold the racket for top spin? i.e. whether my wrist should be straight or slightly bend downwards or anything else? Pls help me.

[@nikhilpatel2022]

Thank u so much. Great teaching with nice insight. I can’t wait to practice this way.

[@ebatt8803]

Pleasure, thank you for the lovely comment 🙌🏓

[@rjanaksundhar9091]

Forehand Topspin is an important stroke in this game. In the last few years, with the change in the equipment (balls and faster rubber etc), game has become even faster. Playing forehand topspin and applying the mechanics of weight transfer for each and every stroke and with large swing (especially when the swing comes from a bit far from the back), the stroke becomes a long one and seems more hard and not completely sure if it can be played flawlessly when you are closer to the table. Also, as you said, the return will be very fast if the opponent blocks or plays a counter stroke and immediately if you have to play FHT with all the techniques, its not going to be easy unless your reflexes are very quick and have lightning speed in legs. The time between a player's First FHT and next FHT is very less as the opponent's return will be very fast and the player has to be in the position to play the stroke. With large swing and putting all the mechanics, it would be easier to play when you are little away from the table. This is just my opinion and correct me or share your thoughts which may improve or help in making the decision to play the stroke. Looking forward to see similar video for Backhand topspin. Great video Coach Eli....

[@ebatt8803]

R Janak Sundhar lovely insight, there is no perfect answer or technique, there are so many variables but yes you’re on the right track. It’s all about efficiency and that’s also dependent on style, body size, where you play or feel comfortable...

[@davidpui4675]

Thank you very much for the tips. Like your videos. Any tips for looping heavy under spin balls? And also looping side spin serves using reverse Chinese penhold backhand loop - basically to avoid chopping as the opponent will end up attackkng

[@ebatt8803]

Very hard to explain via words, hopefully one day I’ll cover this in future videos. Thanks for the support 🙌🏓

[@martinnemenzo1827]

Great tips! Also can you please include the angle of the bat on how to hit the ball? Also is it gonna be the same whether you are using a chinese or a tensor rubber? Thanks!

[@ebatt8803]

Angles change depending on what spin and height you’re hitting the ball. And again has a slight change of angle when using different rubbers…

[@ulrichmartin5279]

Can you do more of these lockdown videos please

[@ebatt8803]

Ulrich Martin super kind 🙏 I would love to say yes but currently it’s not because my work load has built back up and I’m not stuck at home anymore lol. I do hope to get a new venue for our videos and bring out some new material in the near future. Thank you for your support 🙏🏓

[@Bork0r]

Great stuff!

[@ebatt8803]

Thank you, glad it helped 🙌🏓

[@Mbmtravels]

Thanks sir , great help once again .....will try to practice this way

[@ebatt8803]

🙏🤗🏓

[@user-xx1gq7nr9o]

I Find it extremely difficult to execute this shot, every time I try to follow the racket up until eye level the ball goes far away, so I try to keep the swing until chest-neck level so I can control the ball but ai feel like this is not the right swing for Fh tp, any ideas?

[@tdub2422]

Hello Coach E. I really appreciated the higher and lower backswing tips; my own is often too horizontal and the ball goes too long or I hit it too carefully and it's not aggresive or effective. You have a lovely talent for simple, extremely effective tips like your one from a previous Home Vid about moving on the balls of your feet, not the toes. I knew better, from tennis days, and you can kind of get away with it in table tennis, but it's far from optimum as you're often off balance. My movement is now much smoother and relaxed. Also, I hope you smacked the dude who snickered when you lost your balance a bit demonstrating a righty. I mean, come on, everyone knows going right is wrong! Thanks again.

[@ebatt8803]

Tom Mac hahah love it 😊 Very kind words thank you so much. I’m taking a small break until I can get back on a TT table and record better videos. Thank you for your support in the mean time, stay safe and healthy 🙏🏓

[@MarcelSM01]

Thank you again! I think I am already trying the efficient FH. I still need to become better with my technique. Love the drawing of yourself on the drawing board! 😂

[@ebatt8803]

TTJunkie I know, some call me Picasso 😜 Please don’t be upset with me but I’ve decided to take a small break from KZbin until I can get back onto a TT table and provide higher quality videos. Keep well in the meantime and thank you for all the support 🙏🏓

[@MarcelSM01]

@@ebatt8803 i completely understand. Looking forward to the new tutorials with a table.

[@SkepticalCaveman]

I compensate my lack of body movement with arm strength and wrist. I have big forearms that makes it possible to whip my forehand mostly with my wrist. I think that my big forearms are also the reason why my backhand is stronger than my forehand since the wrist is more important for the backhand. My forehand can definitely improve, but I need to work on my footwork first.

[@ebatt8803]

Skeptical Caveman plenty of components are required for us to have an efficient set of technical strokes 👍🏓

[@KashNoorani]

What an awesome video! I had a follow up question: while I can surmise that the hitting zone and stroke efficiency are connected to muscle coordination, how is the dominant eye playing a role here? Is it a case of being able to keep an eye on the ball to make last minute adjustments?

[@ebatt8803]

Kashif Noorani often throws dominant eye play a role in allowing us to connect with the ball. Other elements include; minor adjustments (as you said), better timing point (increased power or spin), body stabilisation, if we don’t track the ball properly our body and head may move and adjust to play the stroke and with those minor movements our stabilisation is hampered

[@adeadeokun3164]

Hi Interest video and you always bring something new to the table, I'm a right handed player but my dominant eye is my left eye. At what point should I be contacting the ball

[@ebatt8803]

ade adeokun thank you, so for you it means you need to connect slightly earlier or twist your head a little more as the hall comes towards your racket.

[@moraisfilipe]

Great video! I've never seen a video talking about backswing the way you explained it! Very good! Thanks for sharing! Do you think the height of the player has an influence on the backswing?

[@ebatt8803]

Filipe Pessoa thank you 🙏 The height yes does also have an effect on where the bat should be based. I coach current England no.5 men and he is 2.03m taller!!! 🤯 the back swing had to be carefully thought of to enable him and provide a positive outcome with his stroke.

[@SantoshKumar-bt8pn]

unable to understand your drawing plz elaborate the sytem model.. e.g. which lines means what? also the direction..

[@ebatt8803]

Santosh Kumar I don’t fully understand your question please elaborate

[@kevins3646]

Omg never knew the contract point is dependent on dominant eye. May be needs a more detailed explanation how it affects contact point. Great tips about back swing. Ur coaching is amazing, what is the highest ranked player u coach? I play at national level club in canada , my level is pretty low , but our club has had a few Canadian players also the coach is a former national team coach. I see her and others coaching players , but I never see them explain some of the techniques in terms of how u explain, which btw is highly insightful

[@ebatt8803]

Kevin s I work with national to international level players. Highest level players I’ve worked with is around 50 in the world men. And I’ve worked and coached 5x national teams. Thank you for your kind words, I do my best 😊🏓

[@kevins3646]

@@ebatt8803 Awesome. Thank you for sharing the intricate details of the game. It would be next to impossible for a casual player like to me to learn this highly technical game without ur videos.

[@ebatt8803]

Kevin s I’m truly happy when I hear positive feedback, so the pleasure is all mine 🙏🏓

[@karlmaier8904]

thanks again eBaTT....

[@ebatt8803]

Pleasure as always 🙏🏓

[@seraca]

Hello coach! Thanks for this awesome video. Is the ball suppposed to be at my eyes level when i hit it? & am i always hitting it at the peak of the bounce? Thx!

[@ebatt8803]

Thank you for the lovely comment, No the ball does not need to be in line eith your eye line. But try to keep the ball in line with your dominant eye. Best of luck

[@seraca]

@@ebatt8803 awesome

[@zazenforever4940]

Hi Eli, do you recommend or is it ok to raise both hands up at the end of the swing like I see so many Japanese players do? Thanks.

[@ebatt8803]

Zazen forever great question, this has to do with the Mechanics of the body, this a technique used by many women because they often lack the power which comes from the legs. Therefore they use both arms to generate extra momentum which transfers into a little more power. So in simple terms I personally don’t recommend it because it causes some balance issues and can intervene with other stroke play, mid rally. It also inflicts shoulder strain and in the long run may cause physical issues. I’m not a professional physio but from my studies this is my personal conclusion

[@zazenforever4940]

@@ebatt8803 Thanks again, Eli. One more question, and disrelated I suppose, but looking at your footwork information- there is the idea of "power coming from the ground" esp. in Chinese coaching of table tennis. What does this mean, and how is this different than the "European" style of play? Thanks!

[@ebatt8803]

Zazen forever super hard for me to explain via written work. All I can say is sit down and through a ball as far as you can. Then stand up and do it and you’ll see the difference

[@zazenforever4940]

@@ebatt8803 Thanks and this may be a bit of a weird way of describing it, but does it feel like the hips turn first transferring the weight to the left foot , im right handed, and then the arm comes after? Allowing the turning of the body to throw the arm forward? Meaning- hips first, then arm last. Hope this makes sense. Thank you once again!

[@ebatt8803]

Zazen forever depends on time but if we are talking about power and you have time then yes hips first

[@sangeethakavinragul1729]

Nice

[@ebatt8803]

Sangeetha Kavinragul 🙏🏓

[@niklaskras5498]

should i follow the ball till it contacts the rubber? i´ve noticed that when i play at the table i stop following the ball way before it hits my bat

[@ebatt8803]

Try to follow it as much as possible yes 😊👌🏓

[@팔도비비면-z2r]

대단히 감사합니다^^🇰🇷 간단한 한글자막이 있으면 한국에 있는 탁구인들이 구독 좋아요 를 많이 할겁니다 ^^👍

[@ebatt8803]

I wish I could read this but to have someone from Japan messaging, it’s an honour 🙏🏓

[@louishenderson4516]

Is Follow through 1 Jon Persson ?

[@ebatt8803]

Louis Henderson it could be I guess 😝🤣🏓

[@hshlom]

Wow, that was a very interesting lesson! Maybe geared for intermediate or higher adults, who can handle that much detail. However, all of your videos I've seen have been interesting. I can't wait for the club near me to open up so I can get my mojo back and try these out!!

[@ebatt8803]

H Shlom thank you sorry if it was a little overwhelming but I feel it’s always better to have more than less right?

[@hshlom]

@@ebatt8803 Nah, it wasn't overwhelming for me. It was just right! Thank You!

[@zitabayr2641]

❤

[@z0uLess]

I heard that it is most common for right handed players to have the right eye be dominant, but for me it is opposite. Does this say anything about my playing style or needs for practice? I think the style difference in the forehands of Ma Long and Timo Boll also is supported by the equipment; Timo boll uses a very fast stiff racket, while Ma Long uses a more flexible blade with rubber that is more tacky and a bit slower. I think this is at least the equipment combinations of blade and rubber that they have developed their technique with, european style tensor rubbers vs chinese style tacky rubbers. Both players use very fast equipment to be able to compete at their level, dont get me wrong, but the difference in style lies in the details. Thanks a lot for the video, this helps me. I have only played for a year now and have lots of video of me playing on my channel. If anyone wants, you can leave a comment there and follow my progress! ;-)

[@asifs5051]

I'd prefer a Ma short instead of Ma long. 😂

[@ebatt8803]

😂😝