Forensic Files - Season 5, Episode 9 - Killigraphy - Full Episode

This examination of the role autopsies play in murder investigations focuses on the suspicious death of Virginia Ridley. Police charge her mentally unstable husband with murder, but a medical examiner discovers that she died of natural causes.
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[@johnchalmers]

Just one question , and that is , why the hell didn't the family of the dead woman go to her place of residence once in a 30 span, to inquire about her well being ? The sister goes to her grave everyday , but didn't bother to go see about her during her life ? A life that might have been longer had she done so ?

[@59Alaskan]

I got on here to say pretty much the same damn thing!! There is no way in hell I would not have pursued going over to see her and get her the hell out of there, no way!!!!

[@WhyYoutubeWhy]

They did try and make contact, invited her to stuff and she didn't come. Why would she also not invite them to see her?

[@sunkissed1974]

@@WhyKZbinWhy he said she was embarrassed of her seizures activity as didn’t want them to see her like that.

[@sunkissed1974]

My point too. Crocodile tears after she’s gone but not before?? She turned down invitations to family events. Ok. So you go to her. You check on her. You visit her. But to wait until she’s dead to cry for her?? Skeptical at best.

[@sahanirosemary5553]

🤭 while i was watching this, i was also wondering, why, why didn't they visit her if they were that much caring of her.. if it was my family they would have come to find me, Virginia's family knew where she lived... so for the 30 years they didn't even bother to go and see her??...

[@RideoutMr]

Great lawyer & even greater human being. You just never know.....& her family could have gone to her house if they cared so much.

[@riggs20]

They did. She would not come to the door. Even when her friends came over she would not come to the door. Her sister talks about it a little if you want to go back and watch.

[@jessestewart169]

They didn't care.

[@sleepybunny2]

She chose to ignore and avoid her family and friends. She chose to life with a husband who didn't even seek medical treatment for her bad condition. I think she deserved what she got.

[@TB-wo7ml]

some of you have no clue about domestic abuse. The first thing the abuser does is distant the spouse from their family and friends for better control. Once they have no support they’re easily manipulated and controlled. Teach your kids that, they might need it one day. Never ever shame the victim

[@robs1873]

She was only 49

[@genevieveblair1259]

30 years her family hasnt seen her and they blame the husband. What stopped them from going to the house? Having police do a welfare check on her? Especially them knowing she had epilepsy! Wtf!!

[@mariemartin7056]

Yeah seriously . All it takes is dialing three numbers and saying Hey I havent heard from my sister in a while and I’m worried any chance you can send someone to check on her

[@evanpowers1537]

Agree 100% about the welfare check. WTF

[@Mr.EmeraldTheGreen]

I agree. But I think they said that Virginia wouldn’t go out and wouldn’t answer the door, and had no telephone ☎️

[@deealone5191]

@@Mr.EmeraldTheGreen Exactly, and her sister, Trixie, did say they even wrote letters to her that were never answered. Also, they feared Alvin might have them arrested (he was sue happy) if they went to his place to check up on her, so after awhile they just gave up.

[@nataliemilford6201]

And claim her husband kept her captive.. wth yes

[@mirriulahwaterdog]

Sounds like he was lucky to have a very considerate and unbiased solicitor to help him out.

[@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance]

I don't believe people watching this episode actually listen to the details of the condition he was found in and need to go back and watch it again. First clue. He immediately isolated her from her family and for the rest of her life. This is not normal, healthy or sane. 2nd. He was manipulative and controlling as indicated by his abnormal societal behaviors and not once but over years. 3. She was not that embarrassed about having censures when she has lived with them all her life. Everyone in that small hick town that knew her and her family knew this about her especially when the population is under 1OOO. It's sad that know one went to check on her or sent the police to do a welfare check. It's sad that he killed her and everyone believes he's innocent. It's apparent Virginia state of mind wasn't so great either. She totally cuts off her family after getting married with no explanation as to why? And for years? And married to someone who is not mental stable or emotionally healthy? Something's wrong with this picture. I believe she was locked in the house to and was rarely allowed out and not allowed to contact her family. A house with no running water! A filthy house that was never clean and Infested with roaches and ants! Her hair matted to her head? People this is neglect! Not love! I agree with her sister! He killed her. He forced her to write that note days before her death. He kept her from taking her meds she always took. I wished her family would have saved her from him.

[@mandark8561]

@@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance You said it: "It's apparent Virginia state of mind wasn't so great either. She totally cuts off her family after getting married with no explanation as to why?" She chose her fate. There was no evidence that he was holding her against her will. Also, there were many notes about their relationship, not one. If things were so horrible for her she would have escaped or attempted to reach out to her family. She didn't. He might not be a good husband and he's probably not all there mentally, but he didn't kill her.

[@synergisticcollusion134]

​@@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🙄🙄🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@marylibellula2281]

And even his lawyer had some prejudice about him😡

[@mtgstudios1556]

There is a mental condition that will actually do that which I can verify because some people in my family have it. What it does is allows the living quarters to become that filthy and unkept. Whats more is that this does occur within married couples. My grandfather who rarely spoke with anyone lived in it with my grandmother before his cancer took him. He rarely spoke to any of us, and I dont believe ever left the house. So this can happen if the conditions are right for it.

[@jessicamcminn-cotton1537]

I see a lot of comments still blaming the husband in this case and just felt like I needed to point something out. People who suffer from medical conditions that lead to loss of control like epilepsy also often have comorbid conditions such as anxiety and depression. Where everyone else is pointing out her condition when she was found as evidence of abuse (underweight, unkempt hair, etc.) I actually see a depressed, anxious woman that wanted nothing more than to live in her bubble with her husband because that was safe and familiar to her. She didn't care that her husband had a reputation for being sue-happy; he was loving and understanding of her and that was all that mattered. It was never mentioned why she stopped taking her medication, but side-effects could be part of it, and once she stopped taking it, her anxiety and depression about her increased seizures likely worsened to the point of making any trip outside impossible. I do believe that the husband suffered from some kind of mental handicap himself, despite them finding him fit to stand trial (perhaps just low IQ), for the simple facts of how he handled the situation. Everyone always found him so odd because he NEVER thought like anyone else. Perhaps that's what attracted his wife to him in the first place. Everything he did made perfect sense in his OWN head and he had no excuses for anything, only honest explanations. His own distrust of most of society is exactly why he didn't encourage her to seek medical treatment for any of her conditions and only sought assistance initially from those he had previously positively interacted with, such as the hospital in Chattanooga which treated his mother. Now for the rest of her family. I don't know how much I swallow that they were so incredibly concerned for her wellbeing. Yes, she was an adult, and yes, that meant they were limited on what they could do in the way of intervene in her married life. However...seeing the state of that property and the conditions the couple lived in, they 100% could have called the county's Code Enforcement with concerns that the property was not fit for human occupancy. Even the smallest of towns will investigate such claims if enough fuss is made. Also, with all the run-ins that the husband had with the sheriff, the police chief, etc... not one of them ever thought to say, "Hey, how's that wife of yours? We haven't seen her out in a while." SOMEONE knew this woman was alive in that house other than her husband. It just kept the town gossip juicy to keep their mouth shut about it. Is it sad that she didn't get the medical help she needed and lost her life entirely too early over it? Absolutely. But her husband didn't do anything malicious to her. This isn't Stockholm Syndrome. This was a case of two hermits who didn't trust the outside world to do anything other than judge them. And when that world tried to do just that, Virginia's own words kept her husband out of jail.

[@ninsuhnrey]

This was a really cogent analysis. 🌟 If you've never considered writing, whether fiction or nonfiction, you should.

[@trinalin6056]

Well said, i think it's terrible so many pple are still blaming the husband in the comments. I think the defence lawyer summed it up nicely. It's obvious the husband has little social skills and is an oddball. The local prejudices decided that this odd person was responsible and no one could change their mindset. Ofc, he wasn't perfect but even imperfect pple have their rights. And honestly, i too feel the family didn't care enough. If they were so worried, they would have made the sheriff come with them and knock on the door. It's a small town. Everyone knows everyone. If i didn't see my sister for years, i would be worried enough to make a house visit with law enforcement by my side. Oh wells. Obviously ESH otherwise they wouldn't be featured in such a terrible and sad story.

[@IceSkater8491]

The narrator said that she stopped taking her seizure meds because she felt the Lord would heal her

[@luckkarma19]

This is a fancy blame shift

[@adotintheshark4848]

People do tend to live in a comfort zone, which may seem uncomfortable or even abusive in an outsider's eyes.

[@jillelizabethmendeja8427]

At some point, we all need someone like Goldberg who understands that not everyone has the capacity to engage socially.

[@mintyaquagreen1675]

You're right!!!

[@phindilemahlangu894]

I also lack of social skills and always on my own

[@gamenshorts]

Facts

[@evanpowers1537]

Everyone needs to suck it up and at least see a doctor once every decade. Being awkward is no excuse to just let your health fail and die under a rock

[@thesummerof1968]

Being awkward? No way!!! You mean being a control freak. He alienated her from her family, never to leave the house, never saw a primary physician for her epilepsy. He sued everybody in his small town for petty reasons. The wife mistook his controlling behavior as a sign that he loved her,when in fact he treated her as his property. Her hair hasn't been brushed in years, lived in filth,etc... that's abuse in my book! Sad for the dead wife, and sad for her family who were robbed of a loved one.

[@ChristinaBailey2000]

That's fabulous!!! I'm so sorry for her husband!!! Her family was a real piece of work... They cared nothing about her.

[@dfygoh3215]

the Lawyer is a Freaking Hero we need a lot more of those

[@adotintheshark4848]

the guy defended Alvin, Lord knows not for money, but just on principle. Too bad a lot of attorneys only see the dollar sign or the physical benefits of their profession.

[@christinatsai-t8u]

Straight forward narration, good voice, no unnecessary music, these are the reasons forensic files has become the fav of many.

[@mrlafayette1964]

Plus they put the actual people not actors, just wish the new one had the same narrator.

[@mikotoh]

with a VERY minimal amount of reenactments, which are out of focus and always have the narrator speaking over them god, i hate all the dramatic reenactments in modern true crime shows.

[@sentientglowcube]

@@mrlafayette1964 I think this narrator passed away, so that's why they have him any more sadly. I'll admit I tried to watch the new Forensic Files and was shut it off immediately because I freaked that the narrator was different.

[@sentientglowcube]

@@mikotoh Ngl in some of the earlier seasons, like 1 & 2 they have some dramatic reenactments. But I, as someone who hates reenactments with a passion, liked them. They were all in black and white and cool and shiz.

[@adotintheshark4848]

She loved her man. The letters proved it. And I think he loved her in his own way. When two eccentric people live together, don't expect them to be like a normal couple.

[@soniaclarkstewart]

She loved him and feared him. She was a pretty woman and probably let herself go to prove she wasn’t cheating on him. He wore on her so bad mentally that she was too depressed to do anything except stay under his foot. Well he can starve like her, die alone and rot for a while in his house.

[@adotintheshark4848]

@@soniaclarkstewart you're being a little hard on him. Maybe he truly loved the woman. It seems they slept in a bed together, which is more than many so-called happy couples do.

[@soniaclarkstewart]

@@adotintheshark4848 I know they loved each other. I think she was aware of how painful it was for him to socialize with people and did her best to keep him feeling comfortable and unthreatened. She was shy anyway so it wasn’t hard to just stick to themselves. As time went on, it was harder to go out. I guess maybe he was on the dole and did whatever grocery shopping they needed. I still think she was depressed and her letters were her only outlet. I wonder if she was ever pregnant. He didn’t get her to take her medication, she stopped doing the basic care of her appearance and I’m sure that was so he didn’t feel threatened. He failed her by not getting medical help and being malnourished. He may say one thing but I wonder if he has any regrets.

[@adotintheshark4848]

@@soniaclarkstewart He did run a tv repair shop in town, so he probably wasn't on the dole. They were definitely low-income however.

[@soniaclarkstewart]

He lost his truck so he couldn’t really run his business much. I’d think he might be eligible for food stamps but would never inquire.

[@liseklerekoper2441]

Why does Trixie suddenly try to look like the loving, caring sister visiting her gravesite regularly when she didn’t bother to visit her sister’s home for 30 yrs?

[@7spiritualcompass706]

Wow, great detective work and attorney. Ppl shouldn't be so quick to judge others.

[@prometheusunbound7628]

Then people wouldn't be people.

[@jessestewart169]

Correct.

[@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance]

I don't believe people watching this episode actually listen to the details of the condition he was found in and need to go back and watch it again. First clue. He immediately isolated her from her family and for the rest of her life. This is not normal, healthy or sane. 2nd. He was manipulative and controlling as indicated by his abnormal societal behaviors and not once but over years. 3. She was not that embarrassed about having censures when she has lived with them all her life. Everyone in that small hick town that knew her and her family knew this about her especially when the population is under 1OOO. It's sad that know one went to check on her or sent the police to do a welfare check. It's sad that he killed her and everyone believes he's innocent. It's apparent Virginia state of mind wasn't so great either. She totally cuts off her family after getting married with no explanation as to why? And for years? And married to someone who is not mental stable or emotionally healthy? Something's wrong with this picture. I believe she was locked in the house to and was rarely allowed out and not allowed to contact her family. A house with no running water! A filthy house that was never clean and Infested with roaches and ants! Her hair matted to her head? People this is neglect! Not love! I agree with her sister! He killed her. He forced her to write that note days before her death. He kept her from taking her meds she always took. I wished her family would have saved her from him.

[@mandark8561]

It's one thing to judge someone. It's another thing to accuse them of committing a serious crime without hard evidence.

[@christabellelysander4392]

Yes!!

[@garysmith1181]

What heart breaker. His wife loved the ol guy. It looks like he loved her too. I'm so glad he was not mistakenly convicted of her murder.

[@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance]

I don't believe people watching this episode actually listen to the details of the condition he was found in and need to go back and watch it again. First clue. He immediately isolated her from her family and for the rest of her life. This is not normal, healthy or sane. 2nd. He was manipulative and controlling as indicated by his abnormal societal behaviors and not once but over years. 3. She was not that embarrassed about having censures when she has lived with them all her life. Everyone in that small hick town that knew her and her family knew this about her especially when the population is under 1OOO. It's sad that know one went to check on her or sent the police to do a welfare check. It's sad that he killed her and everyone believes he's innocent. It's apparent Virginia state of mind wasn't so great either. She totally cuts off her family after getting married with no explanation as to why? And for years? And married to someone who is not mental stable or emotionally healthy? Something's wrong with this picture. I believe she was locked in the house to and was rarely allowed out and not allowed to contact her family. A house with no running water! A filthy house that was never clean and Infested with roaches and ants! Her hair matted to her head? People this is neglect! Not love! I agree with her sister! He killed her. He forced her to write that note days before her death. He kept her from taking her meds she always took. I wished her family would have saved her from him.

[@msbigdog1460]

@@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@synergisticcollusion134]

@@msbigdog1460 My sentiments EXACTLY!! You took the emojis right off my clipboard!! 💯💯😂😂👏👏

[@davidrossi6255]

@@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance I bet you didnt watch all yet talk this much. She had epilipsy and she was ashamed of it .Nothing in her letters showed she was held against her will.

[@ElizabethGrindon]

@@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance I think you know a great deal about domestic abuse but, in this case, your knowledge is misapplied and you've jumped to conclusions which don't align with the particular facts here.

[@TheVampirePredator]

And her family still thinks he’s a murderer. Looking for someone to blame rather than accept they lived an out of the ordinary lifestyle.

[@thewillofabeast9079]

@@bogusmcbogus2637Yep. Trixie claims they’ve tried to contact her and had friends go to the house to check but said Virginia couldn’t come to the door. Couldn’t they have police do a welfare check. Police have higher authority and will investigate if something is wrong. Trixie and her family had basically done nothing for 30 years. There was actually a documentary on this case where Alvin was to appear in court with Virginia. Virginia appeared and was well.

[@kiransilwal]

Of all the forensic files episodes, I liked this more. Ended with a positive message, there was no crime , committed, no one was murdered, and science was able to rescue an innocent man. The world is not all bitter after all. Almost all the other episodes makes us feel that the world is one big crooked place, All the viewers watch the episodes and wish they never appear on this show themselves ( either as a victim or the killer ) and yet then can't stop binging the playlist :D

[@seafoambeachcomb]

It's one of my favorite episodes. I think it shows how those ignorant to mental health issues can really get the wrong idea. I think they loved eachother alot.

[@adotintheshark4848]

at first I wanted to feel sorry for her but then I realized there was nothing to feel sorry for. I think they both lived the way they wanted to and were relatively happy.

[@paulrichards1921]

The message is your guilty until proven innocent. He is a very fortunate man.

[@streetcar6080]

Yeah but both Alvin and Virginia have mental issues that could have treated.

[@adotintheshark4848]

@@streetcar6080 you don't know that. Is being eccentric mentally ill? If so a quarter of the population should be in a padded room.

[@shelocsher2396]

Her family didn’t really care about her. I believe Virginia didn’t want anything to do with anyone including them.

[@synergisticcollusion134]

@@gameZA40 The sister, Trixie, admitted that she nor ANY other relative, NEVER - not even once - went to their house to even ATTEMPT to see Virginia because they didn't want to be seen there, and associated with Alvin, and because they were repulsed by their squalid living conditions. If any of her family actually cared about Virginia, they WOULD HAVE gotten over their petty nonsense, breathed through their nose, and went up and knocked on their door! They were RELIEVED to be rid of Virginia and all the "fuss" her loving sister, Trixie, said she caused during their growing up years and even claimed that she thought the seizures were just an "act for attention"! Her siblings teased and ostracized Virginia because of her condition and she couldn't wait to get away from them. They may not have been rich nor had a good living situation, but Alvin saved her! Without him she soon would've ended up in an institution - AGAINST her will - somewhere far away - so her family would have an excuse to not visit - and she would've ended up over-medicated, neglected, and dying alone!

[@indycastletonjonahinarizon8380]

Yeah I feel like her family were a little weird

[@Tybby22]

Exactly

[@saskia9805]

As someone with epilepsy I just can't imagine being so embarrassed about my seizures that I wouldn't want to speak anymore. Including family!!

[@jessestewart169]

Not everyone's the same.

[@StellaFl]

The fact itself that at the age of 18 she married such a man who seems to have clear personality issues is telling in itself that not all was what we'd call normal with the deceased. What's more, I have my doubts about her family as well. Never visited her in 30 years despite there being talk around town that she was dead? And now they are up in arms? smh

[@debrawolleycrochet]

I have epilepsy and I had my dad to support me by saying you might have a disorder and you are special. because I have epilepsy just have to know my limitations. I find myself a successful story. I was able to have children. iam a controlled epileptic I worked for the federal government and county government. I do have AS and BS degree in criminology.

[@Ze_Moose]

@@debrawolleycrochet Congrats Debra! More success to you 👍🏽👏

[@debrawolleycrochet]

Thanks you put your mind to it you can do anything just got to modify your life to survive. Iam queen of modification.

[@tadalamandala9233]

The truth truly is stranger than fiction. 🙌

[@AndToTheRepublic4WhichItStands]

5 min in and I can already see why she didn't talk to the one sister...

[@traceeteeter9875]

💯 I usually skip this episode because I can’t stand that sister. What a witch!

[@ghastlytsuyoshi346]

I had to skip the parts she talked

[@Uniquaization]

lol why?

[@camm.2257]

You act like you know these people.

[@thewillofabeast9079]

@@bogusmcbogus2637Yeah. She definitely still seemed positive that Alvin was somehow responsible for Virginia’s death. But that’s just not the case. Posten had said several years earlier that Alvin had undiagnosed autism. That could be a contributing factor as to why Alvin seemed more out of the ordinary than most people in Ringgold. Of course, just because he had autism that doesn’t make him a bad person at all. People just chalked up his behavior before and after Virginia’s death as him being crazy, including Virginia’s family. Also, it kinda rubs me the wrong way that Trixie calls her sister “this girl”. She’s sitting here talking about how bad Alvin is and how she’s saddened by her sister’s passing. Has she and her family never heard of a welfare check? You can call police and have them check on Virginia for you. They did literally nothing for 30 years. Sadly, Alvin passed away this past July. I believe he was in his early 80s. I fully believe that he is 100% innocent. At least, he’s reunited with Virginia again.

[@jamesl9371]

Inexperienced elected coroner! Unbelievable. Why is a coroner elected? They should be a very well qualified professional

[@muskyman1018]

I’ve wondered that myself! My rural county is the same. Anyone can run for coroner.

[@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance]

I don't believe people watching this episode actually listen to the details of the condition he was found in and need to go back and watch it again. First clue. He immediately isolated her from her family and for the rest of her life. This is not normal, healthy or sane. 2nd. He was manipulative and controlling as indicated by his abnormal societal behaviors and not once but over years. 3. She was not that embarrassed about having censures when she has lived with them all her life. Everyone in that small hick town that knew her and her family knew this about her especially when the population is under 1OOO. It's sad that know one went to check on her or sent the police to do a welfare check. It's sad that he killed her and everyone believes he's innocent. It's apparent Virginia state of mind wasn't so great either. She totally cuts off her family after getting married with no explanation as to why? And for years? And married to someone who is not mental stable or emotionally healthy? Something's wrong with this picture. I believe she was locked in the house to and was rarely allowed out and not allowed to contact her family. A house with no running water! A filthy house that was never clean and Infested with roaches and ants! Her hair matted to her head? People this is neglect! Not love! I agree with her sister! He killed her. He forced her to write that note days before her death. He kept her from taking her meds she always took. I wished her family would have saved her from him.

[@nickcopeland6915]

In red states, qualifications don't matter.

[@thekarlkeeper8727]

At least make a rule that someone needs a degree to run for coroner!

[@thewillofabeast9079]

@@newhorizonsintuitiveguidanceThat’s the thing though. Her family didn’t seem to care about her at all. Trixie said that she sent invitations, and said she even went over to the house but still couldn’t see her sister. Another commenter said that in a different interview, Trixie admitted that she didn’t want to go over and be seen near Alvin’s home. Which explains a lot. If Trixie wanted to make sure Virginia was alright, why didn’t she have police do a welfare check. She didn’t. She didn’t do anything for 30 years. Also, just because someone lives in dilapidated conditions that doesn’t mean they’re bad people. It may be for some but that’s not always the case. Alvin was a hermit who seemed different compared to others, which is why he was dubbed as “Crazy Alvin” by the townsfolk.

[@karenmason6465]

He seems really sad.

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

Sounds like neglect …severe neglect 😢.

[@snackasmversion2752]

Alvin passed away last month, on July 2nd. He and Virginia are reunited in heaven now. May they both rest in peace.

[@juanito3687]

I loved this series back in the day on tv and it’s nice to catch episodes I missed in the 90s although I remember this one.

[@Neurodivergent_Nat]

Update: Trixie Lecroy, Virginia’s sister, passed away November of 2022 - doesn’t say why but she was 70 years old.

[@synergisticcollusion134]

Good news!💯👌😂

[@snackasmversion2752]

Alvin died last month, on the 2nd to be exact

[@sparrow5233]

Big thanks to you defense lawyer and the physician.You are the eyes of justice.Had it not because of your diligence , the man could have been a victim of that incompetent coroner who was not in a position to perform a delicate job.Why would you elect an incompetent person to do a job which is supposed to be done by a physician.Thanks to the defense lawyer who has a pure soul.

[@ShayonceEpperson90]

That man miss his wife .. he had no motive to kill her

[@TNT-km2eg]

Except he could have been fed up with her ?

[@norielbalanban1754]

​@@TNT-km2egHe could have been fed up 10 or 20 years ago. But 30 years marriage? What for? I've watched other cases where husbands or wives immediately planned to kill their spouse after marying them and purchasing life inusrance on their name. And when I say immediately, I mean a month up to a year after marriage. And in those cases, the killer spouse either tried to hide the body, bury it, dismember it, or stage the scene or use poison over long periods of time. I think all the evidence against him were answered with facts from credible experts. Admit it or not, it did put doubt on his guilt, and that's all his defense needed to do. And knowing that he was acquitted despite his bad reputation means that the jury also felt that doubt.

[@indycastletonjonahinarizon8380]

@@TNT-km2eg yeah no

[@penz6860]

Great story & unfortunate case. So much misunderstandings but so much more love involved, it’s behind closed doors private & personal.

[@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance]

I don't believe people watching this episode actually listen to the details of the condition he was found in and need to go back and watch it again. First clue. He immediately isolated her from her family and for the rest of her life. This is not normal, healthy or sane. 2nd. He was manipulative and controlling as indicated by his abnormal societal behaviors and not once but over years. 3. She was not that embarrassed about having censures when she has lived with them all her life. Everyone in that small hick town that knew her and her family knew this about her especially when the population is under 1OOO. It's sad that know one went to check on her or sent the police to do a welfare check. It's sad that he killed her and everyone believes he's innocent. It's apparent Virginia state of mind wasn't so great either. She totally cuts off her family after getting married with no explanation as to why? And for years? And married to someone who is not mental stable or emotionally healthy? Something's wrong with this picture. I believe she was locked in the house to and was rarely allowed out and not allowed to contact her family. A house with no running water! A filthy house that was never clean and Infested with roaches and ants! Her hair matted to her head? People this is neglect! Not love! I agree with her sister! He killed her. He forced her to write that note days before her death. He kept her from taking her meds she always took. I wished her family would have saved her from him.

[@redmustangredmustang]

The lawyer said he was diagnosed as autistic a few years ago. he still alive at 81. Just glad he's still going.

[@davidlewis5189]

He just passed

[@ummhussein1]

Man: I think my wife’s passed away 911 Operator: Is she breathing ?

[@christinerobinson890]

I thought he said “passed out” not passed away

[@jeniferburton5235]

he said passed out

[@adammclennan2627]

Great to see justice. Great episode!❤

[@stacymar684]

Job very well done to the defense attorney. He is a good and honorable man who took his duty to defend his client seriously.

[@Sephiroth766]

The family didn't care enough to visit her in 30 years. It seems obvious the sister just took the opportunity to get interviewed for TV.

[@chancepryor]

And the sister is being NASTY towards the man still after it’s obvious he’s innocent.

[@mandark8561]

@@chancepryor He's innocent of killing his wife. That doesn't mean there's nothing for her sister to be upset with him about. You are oversimplifying the situation.

[@chancepryor]

@@mandark8561 Wait, and HOW do YOU know the woman just didn’t want to see her sister and rather spend all her time with her husband? YOU DON’T! Keep your opinion to yourself weirdo. Don’t force other people to try and only think your way. Mind your business.

[@mandark8561]

@@chancepryor I'm a weirdo for disagreeing with your opinion?? You need to relax my dude. I never claimed to know whether or not the deceased woman wanted to see her sister so why are you asking me how I know that? Even if the husband is innocent of murder (which I believe he is) that doesn't mean her sister has no other reason to be mad at him. That's all I said and I believe it's a very rational opinion. You made a public comment on a KZbin video thereby making your post everyone's business who happens upon it. Is this how you normally respond to people who have dissenting views from your own?

[@chancepryor]

@@mandark8561 awww you wrote an entire paragraph that I won’t read just because you’re a Karen on the internet LOOOOOL bye weirdo!

[@lizslilcorneroftheinstitution]

You know what’s so damn sad, is that all of this happened because people base life off of facades and what they deem to be “normal”. God forbid you live life in any manner outside that ‘norm’, and there are people from every walk of life who will attempt to make your life a living hell. One of my biggest issues with this story is the sister. I can say without hesitation if anyone I knew, especially my immediate family, if I felt they were being held against their will at any level, I’m going to the the poster child for bat-$hit-crazy! If you had so much as a thought that they were being forced to stay against their own will, why would you only sit and judge?! Hell, you can have welfare checks done by the police. You can have DFCS check via social workers. You could knock on the front door, and ask. I don’t have epilepsy, but I’ve had seizures and I’ve had issues with mental health. I’ve seen this “high and mighty righteousness” that seems to only appear when everything is said and done.

[@WhyYoutubeWhy]

That is not a facade if someone tries to get money out of everyone around by making lawsuits to them for whatever reasons.

[@riggs20]

I don’t think you can classify their lifestyle as simply out of the norm. They were living in horrid, filthy conditions. It seems like both of them were mentally ill. This is just a very sad situation.

[@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance]

I don't believe people watching this episode actually listen to the details of the condition he was found in and need to go back and watch it again. First clue. He immediately isolated her from her family and for the rest of her life. This is not normal, healthy or sane. 2nd. He was manipulative and controlling as indicated by his abnormal societal behaviors and not once but over years. 3. She was not that embarrassed about having censures when she has lived with them all her life. Everyone in that small hick town that knew her and her family knew this about her especially when the population is under 1OOO. It's sad that know one went to check on her or sent the police to do a welfare check. It's sad that he killed her and everyone believes he's innocent. It's apparent Virginia state of mind wasn't so great either. She totally cuts off her family after getting married with no explanation as to why? And for years? And married to someone who is not mental stable or emotionally healthy? Something's wrong with this picture. I believe she was locked in the house to and was rarely allowed out and not allowed to contact her family. A house with no running water! A filthy house that was never clean and Infested with roaches and ants! Her hair matted to her head? People this is neglect! Not love! I agree with her sister! He killed her. He forced her to write that note days before her death. He kept her from taking her meds she always took. I wished her family would have saved her from him.

[@8luvbug]

Cut the crap, this man neglected his wife. He left the house dirty and roach infested. His wife's hair was matted and she was rail thin. His wife was sick and he did nothing to help her. He let he rot.

[@littledavid8077]

awesome narrator

[@victorywalkingtours8843]

Maybe she didn't speak to her family because they hated her husband so much...

[@bthearen]

From the way her sister was talking, I totally understand why Virginia didn't want to talk to her. LoL

[@spicethegod]

Look at you predators having a ponderosa in the comments !

[@erichkorman710]

I don't think he let her. There was no mention of any bad blood or altercation to give reason; it sounds like he laid down the rules as soon as he could use marriage, perhaps violence and probably religion to control her

[@adotintheshark4848]

that's the only logical explanation. And if she was kept "prisoner", you'd think she would have gotten free sometimeduring those 30 years. She loved the man, the letters proved it. And when two eccentric people live together, they're not going to be like most couples.

[@mandark8561]

@@erichkorman710 Was she locked in a cage or something? As far as I can see she had wasn't being held captive so it leads me to believe she didn't want to see her family.

[@Villosite]

these cases makes you feel like a lot of times it's guilty until proven innocent

[@jonpendragon2066]

Thats always how it is people are very unforgiving and not very understanding

[@kathrynhoward4196]

It's pretty much always like that. The moment people hear someone was arrested for a crime, it's automatically assumed that the person is guilty.

[@wupfwupfinger2182]

Almost punished for being strange.

[@mariaspeaks2287]

I hope they do new episodes of forensic files

[@cantinandaba4419]

With full context, Im think Trixie is feeling regret. She knew her sister's condition. Over the span of 30 years she, or the family, couldn't find a way to get through? no way, Trixie feels guilty and is looking for someone to place the blame on. Mr.Ridley is an easy target as he is difficult and lacks social skills. Wow.

[@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance]

I don't believe people watching this episode actually listen to the details of the condition he was found in and need to go back and watch it again. First clue. He immediately isolated her from her family and for the rest of her life. This is not normal, healthy or sane. 2nd. He was manipulative and controlling as indicated by his abnormal societal behaviors and not once but over years. 3. She was not that embarrassed about having censures when she has lived with them all her life. Everyone in that small hick town that knew her and her family knew this about her especially when the population is under 1OOO. It's sad that know one went to check on her or sent the police to do a welfare check. It's sad that he killed her and everyone believes he's innocent. It's apparent Virginia state of mind wasn't so great either. She totally cuts off her family after getting married with no explanation as to why? And for years? And married to someone who is not mental stable or emotionally healthy? Something's wrong with this picture. I believe she was locked in the house to and was rarely allowed out and not allowed to contact her family. A house with no running water! A filthy house that was never clean and Infested with roaches and ants! Her hair matted to her head? People this is neglect! Not love! I agree with her sister! He killed her. He forced her to write that note days before her death. He kept her from taking her meds she always took. I wished her family would have saved her from him.

[@cantinandaba4419]

@@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance im going to rewatch this so its fresh on my memory then respond. I see where you’re going, but I don’t want to respond from my rear.

[@runbmc35]

Alvin was a strange man. OK so. The burden of proof falls on your accuser. If her sister cared about her, why didn't she drive to her home when she didn't respond to attempts to make contact or at least send the police? That sister should go eat a turd!

[@synergisticcollusion134]

​@@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance You're pathetic and delusional.💯🙄🤦‍♀️

[@James-Spears-Jr]

Now he's so wrong for allowing her to cut all contact with her family because of him, and not only that he's also wrong for accusing others of something they didn't even do

[@deealone5191]

I think he was worried about losing her. If she saw her family she might decide to go live with them instead of in a cockroach invested home they shared together. What I noticed from later interviews with Alvin is he never found another wife again. Probably not even a desperate woman would want to live that way.

[@thewillofabeast9079]

It was later revealed (several years ago) by Posten that Alvin had undiagnosed autism. That could’ve been a contributing factor as to why Alvin acted odd. Though, just because he had autism that doesn’t make him a murderer. Everyone else in Ringgold, with a few exceptions, just thought he was odd and didn’t want to associate with him. Hell, in an American Justice episode on this case had mentioned that there was an incident between Alvin and Vanita (the coroner) back when Vanita worked in a furniture store on the same street as Alvin’s TV repair shop. She said he scared her and many believe that that was a contributing factor as to why she accused him. She and Trixie were just spiteful in believing that if someone is odd, that means they’re a killer and abuser. Alvin was neither of those things.

[@Valdemar-Perez-III]

Epilepsy absolutely sucks and I hate to talk about it. Had 3 of them before but I’m going strong thankfully after almost 3 years.

[@sandisteko9067]

If I didn't speak to my family for 30 years, they'd move heaven and earth to find out why. Not much of a family she had 😪

[@lavenderflowers1075]

Yep! They didn't care.

[@adotintheshark4848]

Could be, she didn't want to maintain contact with them.

[@playipstreamsolutions5538]

Family didn't care that's why Alvin became the center of her life.

[@elioraimmanuel]

Did you listen to anything?!

[@chancepryor]

Virginia chose him over her family for a reason. I’m sure the family aren’t all they appear to be! He’s innocent and her sister is still being nasty. Hmmm

[@mintyaquagreen1675]

True!

[@traceeteeter9875]

I’d stay away from that sister for sure!

[@vanessabassett2645]

Her family seemed very toxic.

[@8luvbug]

​@@vanessabassett2645He seemed toxic too.

[@synergisticcollusion134]

​@@8luvbug You're either absolutely ridiculous or you clearly don't understand what toxic means! 💯👌🤭🤭

[@PumaLyn]

With a sister like that, who needs enemies? My Mother calls my neighbour if I don't call her back within the hour. My brother has my nieces call me call me every other day. I'm blessed.

[@muffs55mercury61]

As an introvert myself also in a small town who rarely gets visitors (what family I have left lives 1200 miles away) I think if someone isn't all that social then it isn't anyone else's business to know why. I've been like this since I was a kid. And not everyone who is an introvert are hermits either. Alvin Ridley born 3/3/1942 is shown to still be alive by Find A Grave. Apparently he bought a grave marker some time ago.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Aren't you concerned about dying and nobody knows? I'd be worried about my pets and my plants. I don't even use auto pay, because I know they'll come looking for you if you die and they're not getting paid. Yvette Vickers died and nobody knew for 9 months. After being in a bunch of B horror movies, she turns into a literal mummy.

[@lilbit1567]

That's great he was acquitted. My grandparents are just like this couple. Hermits where if you don't visit, you never see them. There is nothing wrong with enjoying your place of comfort

[@unicorngj]

Simple man loved a simple woman and her family hated her husband for it. I despise family members who come around only when a dead body is present.

[@SpaceEag11]

Alvin has mastered the art of being able to speak without opening his mouth.

[@gulammuhammedalkibria2728]

She stopped taking medication not only to rely on God but I believe also due to high cost of treatment and insurance at that time. She was even probably denied insurance due a pre-existing condition. Companies could deny insurance at that time before the ACA.

[@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance]

I don't believe people watching this episode actually listen to the details of the condition he was found in and need to go back and watch it again. First clue. He immediately isolated her from her family and for the rest of her life. This is not normal, healthy or sane. 2nd. He was manipulative and controlling as indicated by his abnormal societal behaviors and not once but over years. 3. She was not that embarrassed about having censures when she has lived with them all her life. Everyone in that small hick town that knew her and her family knew this about her especially when the population is under 1OOO. It's sad that know one went to check on her or sent the police to do a welfare check. It's sad that he killed her and everyone believes he's innocent. It's apparent Virginia state of mind wasn't so great either. She totally cuts off her family after getting married with no explanation as to why? And for years? And married to someone who is not mental stable or emotionally healthy? Something's wrong with this picture. I believe she was locked in the house to and was rarely allowed out and not allowed to contact her family. A house with no running water! A filthy house that was never clean and Infested with roaches and ants! Her hair matted to her head? People this is neglect! Not love! I agree with her sister! He killed her. He forced her to write that note days before her death. He kept her from taking her meds she always took. I wished her family would have saved her from him.

[@MrGreensweightHist]

A lot of people are deluded by the promises of religion as well. In this case, there probably was a financial aspect, but don't underestimate the influence of delusions

[@gulammuhammedalkibria2728]

@@MrGreensweightHist Agree, both of the causes (religious delusions and financial aspects) are possible

[@christinamenhennett]

@@newhorizonsintuitiveguidance I've watched this episode multiple times. I've known people like this couple. I stand with his not guilty verdict.

[@Ralphbo-u6l]

Talk about weird . Write a book on a public forum about someone they know nothing about.

[@jaybrown4526]

Hooray for Alvin!! He must have been so proud standing on the steps of the courthouse looking down at all them judgmental assholes looking up at him. I cant imagine what its like being hated by an entire town, and I cant imagine what he must have been feeling at that moment.

[@ohioguy215]

It's not rocket science. When you hate the entire town, the entire town hates you.

[@christabellelysander4392]

Mr. Ridley was a man who loved his wife in the way he knew how and his wife loved him dearly. If people can't see that, that's just sad. God bless Mr. Poston for defending him!!

[@josephpecoul6532]

I believe that Justice was served in this case Alvin did not do what the prosecutor said he did

[@magnovska9506]

Her sister like’s to gossip a lot, maybe there was a good reason why they would avoid her

[@Jin420]

People can be so judgemental for no f'ing reason.... smh

[@sharonsmalls6846]

My question is why was she malnourished and the husband was well fed?

[@alcoholic2412]

This was a good one. Different.

[@russellst.martin4255]

"You cannot convince me of anything else". IMO it's a very deep character flaw when someone is flat out unwilling to consider things like science, evidence, or facts because their thinking is so rigid. I get that emotions are involved here, but you can't just ignore reality because it doesn't conform to your own biases.

[@elboboalgrammari6520]

You can if you are a MAGAt Republican.

[@thewillofabeast9079]

Trixie and her family have literally done nothing for 30 years. Not even a welfare check.

[@jaxcrax9644]

It was good to see the underdog win one.

[@rykona32]

How come the sister didn't check on her sister?

[@sparrow5233]

She does'nt care after all. If she knew that her sister has an illness,she could have insisted in visiting her and bringing her for a check up up or at least bring her foods or have a date with her even if his husband prohibits her from visiting.She just does't care.If I was her,I wouldn't sleep a night without checking on the welfare of my family members.

[@twincherry4958]

I tell all my siblings that the day any man says anything about me not wanting contact with them, they should CALL 911 Every. Single. Day until the communication lines are 100% open

[@kuborlor]

Wow...finally I found an episode I've never seen....yaaayyyyyy! Time for bed..lol

[@sherrylelee8274]

Very sad 😢

[@audreymuzingo933]

Their secluded life reminds me of the Radleys from To Kill A Mockingbird. And their name is Ridley.

[@quniquebless8271]

I'm addictive to these shows

[@josephbheka8919]

I guess am also addicted too...

[@Gleyi07]

Same girl same…

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

Very strange family dynamic … small towns can be deadly … lack of education… lack of resources…I grew in a small town and could not wait to get away! When I arrived in a larger city I felt at home right away ! Stayed there , got my education, had a nice career and enjoyed all the nice things available in a larger city. 😅

[@deealone5191]

Agree. I knew someone who is transgender that grew up and lives in a small town in Louisiana and I honestly don't know how she endures it. She seemed to flight into fantasy likely because of the claustrophobia of living in such a small town. She'd often say how she'd date men that were unaware she's trans which I found hard to believe that these men wouldn't have known she's trans or towns folk or her family didn't 'out' her to these guys as being biologically a male. She denied that ever happened, tho. She did try to escape to a larger city, but could never afford to make it on her own so she always moved back home with her family.

[@pinrod1]

1:19 dude is riding a bicycle with a flat front tire! Lol

[@lavenderflowers1075]

😂😂

[@WhyYoutubeWhy]

WTF dude 😂 that's what you retain from this story

[@MrsHicks-it5xj]

“ He’s competent to stand trial.”….rides bike with flat tire and lives in a run down house that should be condemned.

[@thegladiatorplayz4197]

Made me cry when he was crying at his wife’s grave😢😢😢

[@mandark8561]

I didn't see a single tear 😄

[@indycastletonjonahinarizon8380]

@@mandark8561 you are a weirdo

[@paulrichards1921]

"A guy with limited resources was able to come in and prove he was not guilty". That says it all about our legal system.

[@donsilva6452]

You mean a white guy....with limited resources? I can't help thinking that the case outcome would've been totally different had the guy been brown or black.

[@Mantisman6233]

The judge said the quiet part out loud. We no longer have the presumption of innocence. We have prove we aren't already guilty. The state just has to come up with a compelling story. It's justice turned on its head.

[@rivonimasilane9362]

I love this episode

[@Wonderland1865]

It’s one of my favorite episodes from ff

[@mandark8561]

This episode wasn't that good imo. Very average maybe slightly below average.

[@toddwilliams1380]

Nobody has seen her in 30 years?? That’s just unheard of. It’s hard to comprehend something like that. It’s jes beyond crazy

[@lizxu322]

10:20 'a woman with whom she is in more contact with in death than in life' what shade 😂

[@gamenshorts]

I have a family member in the Bahamas that suffers from epilepsy as welll and can recite the Bible from front to back

[@robertsontirado4478]

I feel so sad for Alvin.

[@jt414]

They Loved each other! He didn't kill her. And IF her family really genuinely cared they WOULD have found a way to visit her!!

[@thewillofabeast9079]

For real. Trixie said she wrote letters but that’s not enough.

[@sunkissed1974]

They loved each other. The outside world didn’t matter to them. She felt safe at home with him and didn’t feel safe away from him or her home. Especially as her body and possibly her mind diminished. If her family were THAT concerned about her and her well being they would have checked up on her BEFORE she died. Save the false concern now. Just another example of “I wish Heaven had visiting hours”. You didn’t visit when she was here and could have received your visits. Be gone. Trifling.

[@lavenderflowers1075]

😂😂😂

[@WhyYoutubeWhy]

She felt safe at home with coakroaches, hair so tangled?! I don,t think so.

[@sunkissed1974]

@@lavenderflowers1075 when you’re agoraphobic or mentally incapacitated what you find comforting might not be “normal”. We don’t find staying inside of a house for 30 years normal for us. We don’t find improper hygiene normal. Some people cannot cope with societal norms. Their mind cannot accept it. And if her “family” were so concerned for her they would have checked. They did not. Instead their pseudo concern came after they learned of her poverty stricken death. They all look healthy and well and taken care of. But to cry for her after she is gone after not making serious attempts to check on her prior to her death?? Pathetic.

[@8luvbug]

He clearly didn't love her. He hair was matted and they were living in complete filth with roaches everywhere. This woman was mentally unstable and he did nothing to help her. He let her deteriorate and rot away.

[@gabrielle916]

Weird how her hair was so knotted if she was being taken care of...

[@WhyYoutubeWhy]

@@mcr1968 Yeha I thought about that, but then, wouldn't her husband then help her brush her hair, bathe and what not?

[@adotintheshark4848]

imagine what she was like "down there"!

[@seafoambeachcomb]

Hair can get knotted terribly in a very short period of time. Especially wavy or curly hair. To the point the only solution would be to cut it all off.

[@Lucas_Tulic]

What was weird to me is, first, the hillbilly sister not wanting to identify her own sister and sending some relative, and then the relative coming out saying 'I'm so glad you didn't go in, it was not a pretty sight'. When I heard that I thought there was some grose stuff in there, maybe blood, of cuts on her body, or somethinf sinister. But no... she comes out of there and says 'Her hair has not been combed in years'... WTF??? That's the FIRST thing you look for when you go in to identify a body? Her hairdo? 🤣

[@elioraimmanuel]

@Carey an autonomous individual whether a patient or not has the right to refuse care….and sadly, many do.

[@vanevain177]

His lawyer is a real hero tho 😊😊😊. All it took was one person to believe in him.

[@starbright1256]

30 yrs not a visit. Wtf..

[@Francesca-zq7me]

Everyone should read the lawyer’s new book, Zenith Man, by McCracken Poston Jr. it talks through the case and trial, and is brilliantly written. And at the end it gives updates for everyone in the story!

[@bobbybandz1274]

Who else has seen every episode but keeps looking for one they missed anyway? Smh .. Me too it's ok

[@Mark_72]

Great cases solved! Social skills is not given to everyone. One is not a bad person only because is ignoring its surroundings. Distrusted about others is not a crime, it comes from past bad experiences. It’s called pragmatism.

[@bellaricanmami3082]

This. Case is real weird !

[@avasira4521]

Did the family visited Virginia? I think theres also lapses in their side. They should also find a way to see Virginia. Ps. I watch this episode a lot of times😅

[@douglaidlaw740]

He was ahead of his time in filing lawsuits. Some Americans seem to do that like a national sport.

[@milescorporosus4058]

18:46 "In Georgia the coroner is an _elected_ official..." JFC.

[@ScottyDonknow]

If Virginia would rather die next to Alvin than to divorce him & go back to the family home, I'd say it's because her family is toxic. I mean look at the sister, not a shed of tear while talking about her "beloved" little sister.

[@joeyfleming804]

Check out the podcast Locked In with Ian Bick. He just had Alvin's attorney on to talk about Alvin. Thats why I am here now

[@irmarios3678]

So, how old was this geezer when he got married with Virginia cause he looks freaking old enough to be her father

[@hofalexandria2976]

This episode breaks my heart... for the husband and the wife.

[@michellegiles3421]

She was seriously depressed

[@synergisticcollusion134]

Not even 3 minutes in and after only hearing that sister talk for a few seconds, I can CLEARLY understand WHY Virginia cut her and the rest of her family off! What utter toxicity and egotism!💯💯🙄🤭

[@Pammy661]

Poor Alvin 😢 he loved her she was his best and only friend

[@christabellelysander4392]

For more on this story, read Zenith Man, the true story of how Alvin Ridley got acquitted. Written by his defense lawyer, and friend, McCracken Poston Jr. A truly beautiful and heartwarming story.

[@jennabacon1240]

In the beginning of the episode its easy to be angry and jtmp to the conclusion that Alvin did hurt his wife or neglect her. But i think that maybe they both needed mental support that they couldnt quite provide each other

[@babciamira9556]

And what about her malnutrition? The case is still not obvious.

[@babciamira9556]

In my opinion he got away with abuse and murder.

[@mandark8561]

Maybe he got away with neglect but murder? No, not at all.

[@vanessabassett2645]

She always was skinny. In the picture of her dead she doesn't look that much more skinny than she always was. It was proven that she wasn't skin and bones like the sister said. She wasn't neglected either because she had painted toe nails and her hair was done in decorative pins. It probably got messed because she had a seizure.

[@kdramaRomance]

​@@vanessabassett2645then cockroaches ND dirt they lived in?

[@marybria]

Only the person who identified her body said that, but the picture shows she looked as if she was heavier than when she married him. No one else mentioned how much she weighed or if she was actually malnourished. If the forensic people don't mention her being malnourished then she probably wasn't.

[@gonefishing167]

I feel sorry for that poor woman’s health issues and lack of hygiene. But, if the family knew she had epilepsy why, if they were so worried, why didn’t they get an independent health assessor to visit her. I don’t mean to be rude , but that’s a heck of an odd wedding photograph. She looks like a bag of bones ( some other comment said that) , like there was something wrong with her then. They may have left a very odd and unhygienic life but, in his own way, I think he loved and cared for her.

[@McIntyreBible]

21:19, this defense lawyers statement about Alvin.

[@hayleyforbes4808]

This channel is the best

[@LTDANMAN44]

he was a hermit

[@aswin8399]

This is strangely romantic , but the husband seems a bit neglectful