Forestry Mulching FAIL - Broken Tractor Recovery

[@cabbypat]

Dude, the dad stuff hits hard. Good to see him out with you.

[@EverythingElliott]

It can be frustrating at times, but I wouldn't trade it for anything!

[@dancox7154]

Great Job! Balancing your family & un-expected "stuff" happens - reality! You handled it well!

[@EverythingElliott]

no sense in getting upset at things out of your control, especially when family is around.

[@sparis1020]

Great job under stress. What was happening to you is how I live my life. Love the videos. ❤

[@EverythingElliott]

I feel like my life is constant chaos. Glad I’m not the only one.

[@DudeRanchDIY]

Nice job persevering through the setbacks! Even better job getting the whole family involved in the recovery!

[@EverythingElliott]

Thanks!

[@oakiewoodsman]

Good work getting it back. Good job staying cool sir.

[@fullers1966]

All stores near watching you with your son precious times that you can't get back even though it can be frustrating

[@ColtonRoberts1]

I have 2 sons that are 3 and 4.5, they do everything with me, it’s not always easy but it’s always worth it.

[@EverythingElliott]

Hit the nail on the head. Everything takes longer, but spending the time with them is too valuable to give up

[@gckshea]

Elliot, I felt for ya in this case. It really makes me hate new equipment with all the ECM sensors, parameters, DPF/DEF systems, electronic common rail fuel injection, Safety Sally sensors. Ugh! Looking forward to knowing why this happened and what other might learn about their tractors, Kubota or not. Thx Give me an Oliver 99 with a Detroit Diesel all day long!!

[@EverythingElliott]

Once she’s back up and running I’ll be sure to get an updated video out! Thanks for watching!

[@lyleharkness-rv5vf]

Sorry about the breakdown, never happens when/where it's convenient. Hope your tractor will be up and running soon 🤞 I don't have a job where I can take my son with me but I grew up on a dairy farm and my brothers and I were with mom& dad and learned to stay out the way and how to pitch in when we could. Good job keeping your cool and developing a plan given what you were presented with. Good video 👍

[@EverythingElliott]

I just hope he soaks up as much knowledge as he can by being with me. The younger generation is so obsessed with technology, ipads, and TV that not many go outside and have fun/learn new skills.

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

That MP360 is too much for the L4701. We've got the MP348 on the L3901 and it stalls it out all the time....same code, etc. We might get a L4701 to run the MP348 or at tractor with at least 40 PTO HP. Not sure what you try when it stalls, but disengage the PTO lever, pump the left pedal/clutch a few times. And lower the 3pt Hitch all the way before trying to restart takes all the stress off the engine. Restarts easier.

[@EverythingElliott]

The pto rating is well within the mulcher head rating...something obviously went wrong...shame on me for not stopping after the first time it stalled. Also the 3901 is the last model to have a PTO clutch pedal. My tractor has an electronic PTO engagement so you step by step wouldnt work for me.

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

@@EverythingElliott I thought Kubota went to electric PTO on the L4802.....good to know they have it on L4701.

[@D2500R]

You don't need to apologize for any missing camera angles or shots. If people can't be understanding about the situation that is ridiculous. Your wife did a great job helping and it's great you two work together. I dislike the fact dealerships are putting stuff like on equipment, it's all about the money though. Which most people don't have much of for service calls and such. Hope it works out for you. All in all a great video.

[@EverythingElliott]

luckily, I got this tractor at auction for a great deal and it hasn't given me any trouble yet. I'm not excited about spending the money, but with owning any piece of equipment, there is always unexpected set backs.

[@oakiewoodsman]

Great to have great help. Filming this whole ordeal was a ton of extra time, effort and frustration! They sure did great!

[@WakinyanHota]

That first initial cry reminds me of my kids getting their boo-boo’s

[@EverythingElliott]

I hate hearing it, but it’s also a way for them to learn.

[@HometownAcres]

Damn man I feel for you. I’d be pretty disappointed if I found myself in that situation. I wanted to bring my tractor up and pull you out watching this haha

[@EverythingElliott]

it was a very disheartening situation...but I got it out, and it's gotta get fixed......it's only money, right?!

[@oakiewoodsman]

New sub! Hard luck for sure where it went down. Good job on the video!

[@EverythingElliott]

Thanks for watching!

[@oakiewoodsman]

@@EverythingElliott absolutely man

[@jrcrandall6047]

Sucks about the tractor. Bad days always happen. You kept it together better than me.

[@EverythingElliott]

There were a lot of words said off camera. But I try not to be hot headed, especially when my son is around.

[@DavidHill-g2d]

I am looking at a fully mechanical tractor right now. Minimal electronics & none with the engine and no DPF either. Kubota still have the L3800 available here. Tractors are meant to be simple and tough machines. They are far too complex now. Cheers from Australia.

[@EverythingElliott]

Keep it as simple as possible...I hate all these electronics now a days, makes things break faster, and harder to repair.

[@DavidHill-g2d]

@@EverythingElliott And more expensive of course Elliott once out of warranty. A friend has a Kubota L4600 and it is a really nice tractor, but the repair costs are concerning when something does break. How is the repair coming along?

[@EverythingElliott]

@@DavidHill-g2d Tractor is fixed now, Dealership is battling it out with Kubota about repairing it under the recall even though its expired...They havent charged me yet.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Unfortunately we all have days like that. Hopefully you can get it back up and running with out too much expense. I thought that mulcher would handle a lot more than it seemed to.

[@EverythingElliott]

yeah, this certainly puts a sour taste in my mouth for it...

[@oakiewoodsman]

Hey HWM Just found this channel and have seen a few people in the comment section like yourself. Good to see ya Heath.

[@hunterlogan2913]

good Luck!

[@EverythingElliott]

It was a challenging day...I needed all the luck I could get

[@TKCL]

Dang! It doesn't make sense that the tractor keeps shutting down so easily everytime you start mulching a tree. Adjust your slip clutch on the mulcher. Hate that your equipment went down on you, these things happen.

[@EverythingElliott]

The slip clutch was adjusted a month ago. The mulcher sits outside, but I have a hard time believing that the slip clutch froze together in a month.

[@TheMonkdad]

Wow thats an expensive piece of equipment! My first concern is can you tow a hydrostatic tractor. I have a hydrostatic lawn tractor that had a lever that you have to pull to disengage the transmission. Theres a warning about damaging the trans if towed without pulling that lever.

[@EverythingElliott]

Do you have a small tractor that doesn’t have a gear selector? I can put my tractor in neutral so it free rolls.

[@TheMonkdad]

@@EverythingElliott actually I have a 35 hp HST that’s so new to me that I honestly don’t know how to do it and it was used and no owners manual. Your video is helping me to learn.

[@atlucas1]

15:02 "The dealer needs to clear the code in order for it to run" is going to be the epitaph on the tombstone of small farm equipment like this. I'm tempted to sell my L3302 and tune a 2501/2 up to >30HP just so I can have a more mechanically-driven tractor with no BS emissions "store it then burn it off later" crap. Also my son (now 4) helps me work on my tractor too. Just be careful when you have him hold a wrench; it may turn into a hammer in his hands.

[@EverythingElliott]

Yeah I’m super frustrated with it, I hope they do right by me.

[@atlucas1]

No snatch block with a come along?

[@EverythingElliott]

Wanted to straight pull it so I could go all the way out

[@duanehamdorf2228]

There's just too much tech on these tractors today. I hate breaking down in the woods. I wonder if using that attachment was too much for it ? Maybe the electronics got internally hot . Good luck 👍

[@EverythingElliott]

Not too sure what caused it. But it’s certainly frustrating! Thanks for watching!

[@roweinnovation]

Does that have a slip clutch on the pto? My tiller does its a lifesaver when i adjusted it correctly

[@EverythingElliott]

it does, I dont know why it wasnt working. I just adjusted it last month...shame on me for not stopping the first time it stalled

[@JoeAroner-SIWAYTV]

If I wanted to watch myself in a video…. Here it is😂😂😂😂

[@EverythingElliott]

story of my life, if something can go wrong, it will go wrong.

[@JoeAroner-SIWAYTV]

@@EverythingElliott you must know my Uncle Murphy. He has a law named after him.

[@3mteers]

That’s frustrating! Hope the dealer takes care of you on this

[@EverythingElliott]

Well, it’s out of warranty. They will gladly take my money, that’s for sure!

[@3mteers]

@@EverythingElliott Are they able to get to you soon at least? My dealer was booking a month out... mobile tech was available within a couple of days but labor wasn't going to be covered under warranty if I went that route...

[@EverythingElliott]

@@3mteers tech was out the day after this incident. ECM is ordered in from Texas, they said about a week for shipping and it would be installed the week after next.

[@ricksanchez7459]

Thats wild, they say it had a amperage spike when it stalled or something? We are considering that kukje engine tym has as our next tractor, to much electronic junk on the nh we have, cant trust it and I got mouths to feed...​@@EverythingElliott

[@EverythingElliott]

@@ricksanchez7459 something like that, it's a known issue and Kubota issued a recall, but I didnt know about the recall and missed the window by 5 months

[@asamelia5124]

He might be upsett that you broke his tractor. Best of luck getting it back going

[@EverythingElliott]

I never considered that...you're probably right! Thanks for watching!

[@craigwilliams2858]

did you have a clutch plate or a sheer pin? Stalling your engine out could lead to a bent rod or something worse. It would be very rare, but always possible.

[@EverythingElliott]

has a slip clutch that was adjusted about a month ago...shame on me for not stopping after the first time it stalled.

[@roberthale8407]

Is your slip clutch adjusted right? Is the tractor charging the battery? I would ask exactly why the ECU locks out in this type of situation as well to avoid it happening again. Good luck

[@EverythingElliott]

The slip clutch was adjusted a month ago, I can’t believe it woulda froze up in that time. I asked the dealer if this was a common problem, and they said no. Turns out my tractor doesn’t fall under the tech bulletin for the issue.

[@JeffGeorgalas]

I see on all of the YT channels, apparently the forestry mulchers are the "flavor of the week". Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one, but from what I've seen, they're pretty violent on a tractor. Especially on the smaller ones. I've got a 73HP machine, and I don't know that I'd shell out the cash for one and beat the heck out of my tractor with it. To me, not all implements are right for a tractor, even if the manufacturers of the implements say that they are.

[@EverythingElliott]

It certainly isn’t easy on the tractor. No doubt about that.

[@IndependenceIron]

That mulcher seems like way too much for that tractor or that tractor was down on power. Seems like none of those trees should have stalled a 40+hp tractor. I have taken those sized trees with a 25hp and 5ft bush hog with relative ease. Its hard to beat a good bush hog. And im not talking about the new china farm store garbage. Im talking about the older ones that came with 100hp gear boxes on 4 and 5ft cutters.

[@andrewperry8389]

Dumb question does your tractor have a high and low on the PTO like a 540 and I think a 780? If so which one did you use?

[@EverythingElliott]

@@andrewperry8389 it does not...you only see that on tractors that have mid mount PTOs which run at 1080rpm I believe

[@BS.-.-]

It's sad that tractors now have trouble codes and wont start because of one. With that being said we also have a "little blue" quad and our new holland tc40 is "big blue".

[@EverythingElliott]

It’s very frustrating when such a simple machine relies on a computer to operate, when for years and years it wasn’t necessary.

[@jonseim4030]

The, uh..... "joys" of recovering equipment in the woods. I've been there myself a couple times. The way i was able to get my tractor out one time was to jump it straight from the starter. Not sure if that would've helped here though

[@EverythingElliott]

Yeah, I don’t think that would have changed anything since I could get the tractor to spin over

[@jonseim4030]

@@EverythingElliott Well, I'm very curious now and will keep my eyes peeled on the update video

[@toddgeorge1569]

That’s an awful feeling being stuck way in the woods. Happened to me with 3rd function valve malfunction-limped back like a half dead animal! Nothing like a chainsaw for those type trees..

[@EverythingElliott]

nothing more frustrating than being in the middle of no where with a broken tractor.

[@TheMonkdad]

Find someone to watch your son. There are so many dangers around tractors. About 25 years ago i was giving my son a ride and upon exiting he reached out and grabbed the hot exhaust pipe. I felt so bad. For the next six months he kept pointing out all the hit places on tractors, trucks and cars.

[@EverythingElliott]

I appreciate your concern, when he was out there with me it was hours after the tractor ran, nothing hot on it, and it obviously wouldn’t run so nothing for him to get tangled up in.

[@TheMonkdad]

@@EverythingElliott Just a heads up. Crying babies breaks my heart. I had 2 little boys while building a house and it became so stressful to do anything while trying to to keep an eye on them.

[@jamesyork8472]

what is wrong with your pickup truck pulling it out

[@EverythingElliott]

I didnt want to have to repaint my pick up truck after driving it down the 6' wide trail.

[@donaldpare9050]

I just love watching rich people!

[@TKCL]

A rich person would be paying someone to do the work.

[@EverythingElliott]

Rich with money? No. Rich with a healthy family that I get to spend time with? Yes.

[@davidtipton7234]

I work on heavy equipment. And i own the same tractor. I dont think that mulcher had anything to do with what happend to your tractor. I think the battery got low and or the alternator went bad and let the power got low and probably fried the ecm. Happens all the time in equipment. We send em out to be fixed. Edit. I do wished they'd left the clutch pedal for the pto on the hst models like the earlier models.

[@EverythingElliott]

I had no idea a low battery could do that. Seems like poor design and should be fixed.

[@lonniechartrand]

KTAC insurance would pay for some of the recovery cost.

[@EverythingElliott]

If I had KTAC...

[@666bruv]

What is the aim of this operation?

[@EverythingElliott]

Thanks for watching! If you check out the first couple min of the video, I explain everything I was trying to get done!

[@666bruv]

​@@EverythingElliottooooh. What about a stump bucket. The stump grinder seems too big. Those small trunks would rot in no time

[@FredSatterfield]

Unhook your battery to clear the codes

[@EverythingElliott]

Tried that, no luck. Dealer said ECU is fried, which is a recall, but I missed the recall window by 5 months.

[@lonniechartrand]

@@EverythingElliott, recall window? If it is a RECALL, then there should be no unreasonable window.

[@EverythingElliott]

@@lonniechartrand crazy, right....as if the recall fixes itself after a certain date.

[@kdegraa]

Possibly a winch may have been a better option to get the tractor out of the bush. It would have taken a long time though. This must have been a difficult video to post.

[@EverythingElliott]

Difficult, no...It's real life, too many people post everything going perfectly on youtube, I try to keep things as real as possible. Life is full of challenges, why not show that the average joe isn't the only one going through them! Thanks for watching!

[@philipsmith881]

Liked the video a lot. I can't help but dislike the cam-over binders on a piece of equipment with tires though. I understand they have parking brakes, but DOT doesn't care. Need ratchet binders next.

[@EverythingElliott]

I know cam binders aren’t exactly correct, but it’s all I had at the house when I needed to go get the tractor. Better those than nothing at all which is what I see a lot of farmers do around here.

[@skullanclawbones]

I wonder what would have happened if you had of removed the Baumalite in the woods, would the smaller John Deere had of pulled it. It has a weight of 1200lbs. Then again, it's an expensive unit.

[@EverythingElliott]

I woulda left it back there, it wouldn’t have grown legs and walked away! That’s a good question though, I bet it would have pulled it

[@darrellmeyers6434]

Your clutch on the mulcher wasn't adjusted correctly. It shouldn't stall the tractor, it should slip the clutch on the implement shaft. Hopefully it didn't do too much damage to the tractor and just fried a fuse or something easy like that.

[@EverythingElliott]

What's weird is I used the mulcher a couple weeks ago and checked the clutch, it was adjusted correctly and was slipping. I didn't think it would have seized up in a couple weeks of no use. Shame on me for not stopping after the first time it stalled.

[@oakiewoodsman]

Let the tractor think about its actions 😂😂😂😂

[@EverythingElliott]

Sometimes they just need a minute

[@oakiewoodsman]

@@EverythingElliott hahahaha

[@fullers1966]

If that is a problem with that tractor and Kubota knows it I would think they shouldn't charge you a thing

[@EverythingElliott]

it was a known issue, and they had a recall...I was never informed of the recall, and the recall ended for me in march...only 6 months ago

[@fullers1966]

@@EverythingElliott I think I would push the issue with Kubota make them pay for the repair seeing they didn't notify you had the same problem what's something due to a recall I was never notified either I found out about it years later

[@disenfranchisedcitizen1432]

If that mulcher is killing your tractor at speed it appears that the mulcher clutch plate or shear pin if it has one isn’t doing its job. Connected directly to your PTO the clutch plate should give out and slip before it kills your engine which can and probably did damage something in the tractor. Hopefully not. I would try to figure out if the clutch plate on the mulcher is too tight or glazed and what amount of force the slip is set to.

[@EverythingElliott]

I adjusted the clutch a month ago and it was working properly...not sure what happened on the day of recording this. But I should have stopped after the first time it stalled the tractor. shame on me.

[@jonathanfrecking1210]

Rent a skidsteer with a forestry head . They're way faster and better suited for that.

[@EverythingElliott]

faster is an understatement, a forestry head would run circles around this.

[@nunyabusiness7405]

i watched and the two small trees wrapped up into the mulcher locking it. disengage mulcher pto, dont try lifting pto while starting (watched mulcher lift when turning over) put tractor in neutral then try to recover. and stop saying super to everything... lol

[@EverythingElliott]

super must be my comfort word...I guess I didn't realize I said it that much!

[@nunyabusiness7405]

@@EverythingElliott its all good, its younger speak where they say "like" every other word, super is another catchword that these younger generations use due to limited vocabulary and inability to articulate thought with complex words lol. most people dont realize they say super or like to the extent that its annoying until its brought to their attention. but now you know, and being able to articulate better will earn you more respect! btw did you ever get the tractor diagnosed or fixed?

[@dougnelson8121]

Sharpen that chain now.

[@EverythingElliott]

I know, can’t believe it was as bad as it was. It’s already been sharpened. Did it that night.

[@javiertorres7460]

Region B/S

[@chevyjennings3404]

Shit happens but you got it out and now worry about how to get it to the dealer. Wash your pants and deal with it another day!!

[@EverythingElliott]

they actually came to me and sent a service tech out...now just waiting on a decision about the fix.

[@worthmor5146]

I hate when they make it so we can't fix our own equipment.

[@EverythingElliott]

It's super frustrating, because I work on everything I own.

[@tcmits3699]

That beautiful natural forest now looks like a city putt putt course , TOO STERILE. Just my opinion

[@EverythingElliott]

You must have missed the 5 acres of dense forest I drove through to get to the area I was cleaning up?

[@tcmits3699]

​@@EverythingElliottGuess so, still looks too sterile

[@donkeller6456]

your slip clutch is to tight

[@fabricating_firewood]

If that mulcher is killing your tractor at speed it appears that the mulcher clutch plate or shear pin if it has one isn’t doing its job. Connected directly to your PTO the clutch plate should give out and slip before it kills your engine which can and probably did damage something in the tractor. Hopefully not. I would try to figure out if the clutch plate on the mulcher is too tight or glazed together and what amount of force the slip is set to. I feel your pain though and definitely share your method of coping and resolving issues and not losing your shit. It is what it is, just get to resolving the issue since when you find yourself in a situation like that exacerbating the situation by getting visibly mad solves nothing. Good luck.

[@number40Fan]

How many accounts do you have? Word for word copy of another post by @disenfranchisedcitizen1432

[@fabricating_firewood]

I was watching it on my every day account and realized I was commenting using my every day account and not my related firewood account so I cut it switched accounts and pasted it. Must have posted when I switched accounts.

[@EverythingElliott]

the slip clutch was adjusted a month ago...it must have seized (which i find unbelievable) and shame on me for not stopping after the first time it stalled the tractor.

[@fabricating_firewood]

@@EverythingElliott I just finished this video. I could only watch up to the point of just before you getting the ATV. This morning while making my coffee, I started it up again. When the smaller tractor with the ATV couldn't pull it out, my heart sunk. First thing that popped into my mind was Oh No! something is seized. I was relieved when the larger John deer pulled it out and the wheels would spin. Hoping it is just a computer issue and nothing serious. Great video!

[@job38four10]

What kinda tractor owner lets you borrow a $55k tractor with trailer to haul it.........

[@EverythingElliott]

Well, the trailer is mine…and a good friend that knows you’ll care for their equipment better than they do, that’s who lets me borrow a $55k tractor

[@richardhead3211]

as much as they charge for kubota that should not happen

[@EverythingElliott]

yeah, you aint kiddin...I'm not pleased. It's a factory recall that the ECU gets fried if the battery voltage drops. However I missed the recall because I was never notified of it.

[@richardhead3211]

@@EverythingElliott that is why i bought a manhindra . way less for the tractor and jd and kubota aint all that.

[@johnlaramore5873]

People need to stop buying all these new tractors because the new ones are all full of junk computer shit just fix the older ones you'll be a lot farther ahead new everything is junk and costs way to much

[@EverythingElliott]

I got this tractor at auction for less than I could have purchased an older mechanical tractor...It was a solid buy