Forget The EV! The NEW 2024 Lexus RX Plug In Is The Car Most People ACTUALLY Need!

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[@tomdrummy4984]

I agree 100% . Great mpg and enough electric only for local food shopping without gas 👍

[@LafemmebearMusic]

Let me put a nice comment to balance the grumps.😅 great video and as a current Lexus owner I love the interior. Also the price compared to alotttt of luxury phevs for maxed out equipment can’t be beat.

[@tonyw2167]

Lexus is quite bold asking for this kind of price for this RX PHEV, it should make the appearance different to differentiate. If I have to spend the money to buy this Lexus I want to make sure people know by just looking at the car😂

[@is6566]

@tony… This 100%. But you can’t even rely on differentiating clues of the exterior because people are ignorant dufu$ when it comes to cars. This is why I always buy the most expensive truck on the market and then leave the window sticker on the passenger side window inside and HIGHLIGHT the final price with bright highlighter and drive only in the left lane when multiple lanes are available so people can see that I am in an expensive vehicle.

[@Cloud30000]

I only spend money when I know it lets other people KNOW I have the money to spend; what's the good of having an amazing vehicle if it doesn't make my neighbors jealous? :)

[@TrevorVaubel]

First question. Yes. We should have done more PHEVs before the all electric. What a mistake it was going full electric.

[@jeffs6090]

Yes! Smaller phev vehicles should be around 40 electric only miles, and midsize to larger phevs should be 60-100 miles by now. If we had a wide range of that for the past 5 years, everyone would see that's what they really want and need.

[@Cloud30000]

Problem was the technology; back then, hybrid batteries only held a tiny amount and full EV's with massive batteries still had less then 100 miles of range. A PHEV back then would only get 10 miles on electric if you were lucky, while taking a heavy hit to MPG over the full hybrid due to the extra weight of a bigger motor and heavier battery. Even full hybrids back then were a very hard sell due to the major hit the engine and power took to fit in the motor and battery. Remember that EV's with 200 mile+ ranges are actually a recent development, making PHEV's with 30+ miles of range possible. Who would buy a PHEV if it only got 10 miles of electric range and the combined power was only half the power of the gas version, even if it gained 15% better mpg? Ultimately, it was too early for a useful EV and it would have been too early for a useful PHEV too, but you have to start somewhere, and it was the advancements made by the early adopters dumping money into EV's that allow us to finally start getting good PHEV's. Today's EV's are still better if you never make long trips (or have a second vehicle for long trips) and can get away with just driving at home, while PHEV's are better for the utility of having the extra miles and easy refueling (especially if the majority of your trips mean you put less then 35 miles on it before you plug it back in to charge overnight). There are still more things that can go wrong with a PHEV and more maintenance, so it can't be considered better in every scenario and use case.

[@TrevorVaubel]

@@Cloud30000 yeah, I'm talking about what has happened in the last 3-5 years. We skipped investment in PHEVs and went straight to full EVs, limiting electrification in the process. If we made PHEVs the transition could have been faster and our use of fossil fuels dramatically reduced.

[@normanli7085]

@@jeffs6090 actually because of the weight, it should be the other way around. Smaller vehicles should get 60-100 miles of EV range, midsize vehicles should get around 40 miles, and Full size should push for over 20 miles. There's a reason that if the Lincoln aviator PHEV were to be in an F150, it could likely be around the same milage

[@jeffs6090]

@normanli7085 perhaps. But the smaller vehicles can't fit the larger batteries needed for the longer range. That's why my comment of size vs range fits.

[@tazeat]

I want more PHEV reviewers to talk about driving dynamics in EV only mode. One of the biggest drawbacks to me of most PHEVs is being a slow turd when they're on EV mode which is hopefully what you're going to be doing most miles on. My favorite thing about BEVs is the power curve... I thought the RAV4 Prime actually did an OK job of making the EV only mode pretty reasonable.

[@user-tg8do2kr4v]

Awesome car

[@bobdylan6773]

Best in class

[@WW-wf8tu]

Drove a 2010 RX 350. Awesome SUV. Liked the design WAY better than this thing. (yes I know this is the 450) The front end is just hideous. The price is equal to that last statement. All that being said, thanks for the quick review guys. 🙂

[@browndogstt8546]

Maybe I missed it but does the gas engine have the ability to charge the hybrid battery?

[@is6566]

@brown… Yes, they pointed out one of the buttons in the driving modes at the console when they talked about the inside and driving impressions.

[@JustHavingFun_]

Yes but it will burn more gas doing so

[@shawnp4840]

PHEV's can be a good option for certain buyers. How many is Toyota planning to make? Hope this isn't another Unicorn. I believe they are only selling about 20k per year of the Rav4 Prime. They seem to be more interested in blowing smoke than actually producing their PHEVs.

[@tazeat]

They won't seem to make enough of the RAV4s as last I looked they were pretty supply limited and any dealers that had them on lots had dealer markups plus they're kinda expensive to begin with and won't qualify for any tax credits as they're all made in Japan. If they wanted to push more RAV4 Primes they certainly could.

[@FrankyRedEyes]

So this is built on the same platform as the RAV4 ? I'm asking cus I don't know?

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

Highlander platform. The Rav4 version is the 2022+ NX - I have one and it's awesome.

[@Hydrnaught]

Same platform totally different construction & sound deadening etc..... Far from a RAV of any kind.

[@Cloud30000]

Odd choice for them to go all out on features but skimp on the driver's screen, especially since they already have the screen designed and built in the TX.

[@cafe88racer53]

That cap makes him look like a preschooler lol

[@yvs6663]

nah. i feel like the gas engine would only get used once every other month with the way i use my car(mostly around town and to drive to work). which probably isn't a good thing all things considered. given the price tag exceeds that of ex. a Kia EV6 long range and my longest trip this year was only 1.5x its range, i would much rather have that. still, the Lexus seems like a great choice for someone who does long trips regularly or someone who travels through places with less developed charging insfrastructure.

[@bobdylan6773]

kia is trash

[@user-tg8do2kr4v]

lmao you got a kia

[@yvs6663]

@@user-tg8do2kr4v "i would much rather have that" means i don't but if i spent that much money, thats what i would be getting. learn to read, maybe? also, nothing at all wrong with Kia. beats or matches anything European or American on reliability while being better equpied for less money. i would reckon the 3 comments bashing it drive a...whats that Škoda with 4 circles again? oh right, Audi.

[@antster7]

Does that mean we could see a highlander prime?

[@krashnpa]

Nice car, but I can think of many better things to do with 75k.

[@mikeyc7072]

🎯

[@LafemmebearMusic]

Ok 👍🏾

[@naveenthemachine]

buying this nice rav4 isn’t one of them 😂

[@jeffs6090]

Strip club!

[@badongtagalog5737]

@@naveenthemachinebuying this is better than buying a hyundai gv80😂

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

saying you will have to fill up often is not accurate. These are 500+ mi per tank vehicles. It will be able to go longer than you can go before a break on a road trip.

[@zi0cat]

I'd rather have the Rav4 Prime

[@LafemmebearMusic]

I mean yeah if luxury isn’t an issue definitely do that. But I bet, you can get one of these cheaper lol isn’t that wild? People are paying serious premiums for the primes up to and over the price of this vehicle. 😅

[@LetMeCook86]

Better… I see you’re reading my critiques. Good!

[@robervin9107]

Incredible job guys so proud of you both. Love you. Ps. Your family togetherness is tremendous.

[@LafemmebearMusic]

I owned a 2021 bmw x5 45e it was alotttt faster than this BUT. That car only had two packages on it and was 69k and you could not get all the features this RX has for 5 k more to match the RX price. A 75k bmw x5 still won’t have cooled seats or the big stereo you want maybe not even radar cruise control. So to get everything like this RX offers for that 75k price. If you’re looking for a luxury mid size phev , especially with the new gen power bump, this is the way to go. I sold that bmw after 57k miles… we all know why lol 😅 still got my Lexus tho

[@naveenthemachine]

You should have chosen the x5 or aviator or xc90 or cx90. Those are superior to this nicer rav4

[@bobdylan6773]

@@naveenthemachineNOT

[@normanli7085]

@@bobdylan6773 this is what happens when people don't read the whole comment. Naveen recommending an X5, when he said he sold it for a reason is Naveen being a clown

[@bostondan77]

Plug in hybrids are the worse of both worlds- you get a short range in only electric mode so you’re constantly plugging in, you don’t get the speed of a full EV, you still have all the maintenance of a gas car, and EV only mode is very inefficient because you’re hauling around a gas engine and transmission. Non-plugin hybrids are not bad if you road trip often, then you don’t have to worry about plugging in or go just full EV and have yourself a very fun vehicle.

[@LetMeCook86]

The tail lights are a design flaw. That tiny sliver of clear plastic lens below the large red tail is…. The brake light! Just three teeny tiny led lights for the brake light. Lexus dropped the ball!

[@remsterx]

Like the tech but there’s always the drawback. New cars get better mpg but at the cost of the same range as the old vehicles because they have tiny fuel tanks. This is also just a rav4 prime maybe more readily available. Asking price is still too high.

[@r5LgxTbQ]

I've been driving PHEV for 8 years. It's got its downsides over BEV. Really at this point the only reason you should get one is if you take LOTS of road trips, like once per week, because the reduced hassle over a good BEV is marginal if you're a "once per summer" roadtripper. BEV does everything else better. And remember PHEV still needs oil changes, still breaks down like an ICE car, etc.

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

"BEV does everything better" nah. I wouldn't say requiring 10x the amount of REM is doing anything better. I wouldn't say a huge battery requiring replacement every 7 years is doing anything better.

[@Feroce2023]

but BEV still breaks down like a BEV, so you avoid that at least...

[@mike168168]

$70K MSRP? You can buy two model 3’s at that price

[@michaelvella8511]

Getting way too expensive.....to a point where it's not worth considering....

[@brentshannon5048]

I’d Cpo this

[@TexasOverlander]

No spare tire these days

[@hideawayhomesllc5103]

OMG, out with the old guys and in with the younger. My fashionista wife loved your outfits! She completely missed the review of the car.

[@kimle01]

at 75k full EV make more sense

[@hereigoagain5050]

Looks like Kase was doing some awesome burnouts in the RX 450e+ off camera. :) Burn those tires off!

[@davidholmer6099]

The appeal of EVs to me is the performance and simplicity. I only take trips longer than 250 miles a few times per year. Adding an engine and its maintenance requirements just so I can save a little time at charging stations I’d rarely ever use doesn’t make much sense to me.

[@markmonroe7330]

The Rav4 Prime is a better choice for well under 50K. Both are excellent and a smart choice for someone that has mixed needs.

[@LafemmebearMusic]

You won’t get it for under 65 so I’d just get the Lexus. Seriously go find one for under 65 and actually drive away with it and I’ll believe you. You’d be better off getting this because it’s not gonna have the markups

[@markmonroe7330]

@@LafemmebearMusic​​⁠Just last week a friend bought 2023 RAV4 Prime, XSE with the premium package, special paint - fully loaded for $1000 under sticker. I think the final price was just under 51k. Most other Primes with less options will be way down into the 40s. You can find them discounted if you look and are willing to travel to another state.

[@JustHavingFun_]

Purchased ‘23 Rav4 Prime XSE premium package for sticker. Had to travel 4hrs away to find one with premium package. Local dealer had a few but with without premium package

[@bobdylan6773]

This is better

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

@@LafemmebearMusic You were right for several years, however they have now made so many, you can actually get a deal on rav4 primes right now. Go get one if you want one, it's not gonna last.. I think they are going to do an update and want to clear all existing stock beforehand

[@heart4Pahoa]

Stopped watching after the prices were announced. 😳

[@chemjam92]

Not as pronounced...lol. A grill that takes up 80 percent of the front is always pronounced.

[@JogBird]

this is $101k in Canada

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

love my NX hybrid. It drives itself and gets 40-50+ MPG depending on the route. PHEV is pointless - Toyota has a safety feature to keep the gas clean - it will start to burn the gas in the tank every run regardless of what you do, after 1 month. So you are filling up every month. Get a normal Hybrid and save money/earths resources

[@Hydrnaught]

Keep a car for 10-15 years!? 5 tops.... you just lose money otherwise.

[@user-do9ir8lv2m]

Cool car, bad thumb nail

[@derrekb4501]

Let’s see model X at 79k or this at 75k😂😂😂

[@martinmarinelarena8508]

Yeah that price is a joke for a normal person car, make it 30 grand for a Toyota version and that could work.

[@cafe88racer53]

$30k gets you a Corolla these days lol

[@tazeat]

​@@cafe88racer53Yep I dont even think after destination and dealer games you could get the base of all bases ICE RAV4 for 30k before taxes anymore. Maybe just barely.

[@mono1342]

14 gallon gas tank capacity!! This is a car suited for Japanese market not US. Not practical is the US long commute distances. Pass.

[@mikeyc7072]

Mo

[@naveenthemachine]

The short answer is nope. An ev or any other luxury PHEV is better than this rav4

[@Arid379]

I don’t make that much money lexus. Too much value for money and too pricey. Lowered the prices for cars

[@bigbufobufo]

So expensive

[@mikeyc7072]

Several competing PHEV vehicles with better interiors for less money. This interior looks like a fake Lexus, not the real thing. If you are thinking about changing from ICE for this Lexus PHEV, think again. The price premium you are paying can be used to purchase many years of fuel.

[@LafemmebearMusic]

I driven in the new Rx it’s lovely and I’m a current Lexus owner as well. I think you can’t make such a large statement from a 9 min video … 😅🤷🏾‍♀️🪄

[@randyjackson5363]

This is severely over priced

[@Andrew-nu8ez]

The front looks like a whale. Not pretty

[@davidgiles9751]

No doubt Lexus makes a great product, but this is way too expensive. There are many other far less expensive PHEV options these days that are fantastic choices.

[@mumwifeteacher]

Massively ugly. Just get a gas powered Corolla and save your money.

[@laloajuria4678]

worst of both worlds.

[@brianowens1002]

The better option is a free market where consumers dictate the market vs the scumbags in government telling people what they can and cannot buy.

[@craigcampbell1843]

This is a free market. Consumers will never dictate the automotive market. That’s wishful thinking. That’s wanting to have things both ways. In free market capitalism consumers don’t hold all the power. The government doesn’t even hold all the power. Corporations do. Auto manufacturers will never make cars just because they know you will like them. They’re not a public service. They’re not the fire department. They’re a business. They don’t care about you. They only care about profits. They only make cars they know they will be able to sell that will make them the most money. That has always been the case. The government doesn’t control gas prices either. They may place certain regulations on the oil industry for public health and safety but ultimately only oil companies can decide what to charge you for their product. That’s free market capitalism. It’s always the same people who say private businesses should be able to do whatever they want that complain or blame the president when they do.

[@brianowens1002]

@@craigcampbell1843 nothing about your response is at all accurate. In fact it’s riddled with emotionally driven nonsense based on your feelings.

[@is6566]

@craig…. The government doesn’t control gas prices? Ok then I guess it’s the difference in geography why Montana has almost $2/gallon lower price compared to California. But then how come the Hawaii gas price is actually lower then California’s price? Everything is literally shipped in and still less? Then maybe it has something to do with government and Hawaii is almost as communist as it gets with laws, regulations and taxes but seemingly California still wins in that game. I agree with some of your points but the government is totally distorting the car market and gas prices and it does shoving the EV “revolution” down on our throats. And they are doing it so well that most people doesn’t even realize it, seemingly one of the unaware ones is you. And for that last point just look up what’s on the books for 2035 in CA, WA and a bunch of other states. Full EV heaven, baby you want it or not.

[@ryand4940]

If nobody buys these new cars. Get what will happen??? Prices come down. BUT society is too stupid to actually understand the basic economics.

[@is6566]

@ryan…. Yes BUT. There are a ton of people out there who legitimately needs a new (to them) vehicle because their old car died/had an accident/new job/moved farther away from public transportation/bigger family/etc…. They need something to drive. And if you say, buy used, well if all of the people currently buying new cars would stop trading in their old cars and/or just buy used cars then the used car prices would skyrocket further and would soon exceed the current new car prices. Laws of limited supply and supply and demand.

[@LafemmebearMusic]

This car isn’t overpriced. This is literally the top spec can’t add any more options, it literally has everything Lexus has to offer in it. I hear your point on some vehicles but this is a luxury vehicle. Defi check out Toyota Highlander if you want better prices

[@ryand4940]

@@is6566 Need??? Stop. I’ve bought cars/trucks/SUVs for under 8k my entire life. Buy ones that hold value. It’s really not that hard. I can easily buy a brand new vehicle cash so it’s not a money issue for me. I’m seeing the middle class but vehicles that cost more than their annual income. Again, simple economics could be played but it won’t.

[@is6566]

@ryan… You are missing the point. None of your usual cars that you buy would be 8K anymore if everyone would be buying used cars only. 😆

[@ryand4940]

@@is6566 it would bc the price of new cars would drastically drop and become “affordable” once again. Then the used care market will be lower bc ppl will trade in their used cars for a new affordable one.

[@J.Young808]

Aloha from Honolulu Yay first. Yes a plug in is much more practical than an EV especially when one drives Uber/Lyft

[@Isha048]

No electric, nor hybrid cars, I don't like any of them. Most of them are ugly, like this in the video. I don't care if they have great performance. I would'nt buy a car just for that.

[@LafemmebearMusic]

Y’all all so grumpy 🤭

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Need? Ya no. I'll keep driving my, paid for over and over again, 300m which still gets 29mpg. P.s. pluging your battery powered egg ISNT FREE!

[@LafemmebearMusic]

Calm down, to each their own 😅