Forging a ribbon scroll - window grill project

[@stelmac3212]

Magnetic strips from old disused refrigerator door seals are just the ticket for this John........🇦🇺

[@grandadz_forge]

Over many videos you've eluded to the telltale signs of machine made scrolls. I've got lots of things bearing scrolls inside and out around my house. Now it's driving me bonkers. There, absolutely, is no comparison to handforged scrollwork. Thanks for the OCD. Lol

[@BlackBearForge]

Sorry about that.

[@charlesmay8251]

I'm excited about the scroll form video!

[@raol635]

Thank you. Good tips. A simple request plz if you can put all this vids in a playlist, so they will play automatically one after the other. Good job.

[@bc65925]

Nobody understands the complexity of a hand forged scroll till they try to hand forge a scroll.

[@lenbrandstad2860]

You made that look easy. As always another great video.

[@chriskiller88]

I really like your videos, very informative and helps me get better as a hobby smith. Thank you for doing what you do!

[@BlackBearForge]

You are welcome, I am glad it is helping

[@shifty3453]

Window grill coming along nicely!

[@willhoward2578]

Another option for measuring is a sewing tape measure. Flexible so you can measure the whole length of the scroll

[@joeblankenship2360]

Another great video, Thank you.

[@PeopleAlreadyDidThis]

That’s a nice scroll. You’re making my Hossfeld hide in shame. I’m going to have to fire up the forge and give one a try.

[@BlackBearForge]

Sorry about that.

[@krisfreyermuth935]

An alternative to using string or wire to measure the length of curves is a fairly cheap instrument called an opisometer. It has a small geared wheel that you trace the curve with and a larger dial that shows the distance traveled. This is usually used to measure distances on maps. It has the additional benefit of being able to measure the actual distances on scaled drawings.

[@BlackBearForge]

I have one of those for maps, but haven't used it in the shop.

[@5x535]

I have an old one of those. This must be 14000 miles long--HA!

[@3870TheDad]

WOW!! Great informational video.

[@hosiercraft9675]

Really nice job. I can't wait to see how you make the holes for the rivits or tennons. Making the holes before the scroll never worked for me. For many reasons. And I don't want to unscroll to make the holes. So I found making a Hardie anvil with a horn worked best in my case. Looking forward to see how you tackle this. Thanks again Joe

[@BlackBearForge]

I will most likely use hot collars so that I don't need any holes. Buit there is one spot that might get riveted and that will require some finagling.

[@colinrobertson843]

so love watching you work you make it look so easy bit is that you have been doing for so long but i love all your videos i have got so many tips and tricks from watching you work and listening to you, so thanks so much mate from Colin from down under

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks

[@christopherpatrick2343]

Great

[@shortfuse43]

Wonderful video! Scroll making can be intimidating and you make it much more enjoyable. If I may suggest, along with making your starting 1" mark on the anvil, simply make your target 2" mark as well. That way you don't have to go back measuring.

[@BlackBearForge]

Good point. Although in practice you end up rarely needing either measurement. You quickly learn just how to get the taper your after.

[@fredrivard6269]

Really nice scrolls and great video. Just happen to be into scrolls right now and definitely not an easy task but you are right PRACTICE. Very interested in making scroll forms or jigs and right now building op courage to try some identical C-scrolls. Thanks again John!

[@BlackBearForge]

I will try to make a scroll form today for a video.

[@jackdawg4579]

Finished off my window grill the other day, tried sending you some pics through facebook messenger to the blackbear forge facebook address, probably didn't make it. But I stuffed it up doing the second set of tennons. Functional but ugly would be the best description!

[@BlackBearForge]

I wonder what happened to the pictures on FB, I get stuff like that quite regularly.

[@lenblacksmith8559]

Love it, good stuff. Have a project coming up where I have to make some, so this video is very appropriate and informative.

[@BlackBearForge]

I am glad it helps

[@cogpastorc]

I can tell you made a lot of scrolls.

[@BlackBearForge]

I really haven't. Very little of my work uses any form of scroll

[@5x535]

Very cool! But please John---screw up once in awhile so we can see how you fix it. My first scroll is certain to not come out as nicely as yours did. How is it that I am the first view but the third like? That doesn't seem to add up.

[@dthomas021]

5X5 It's a Black Bear Forge video! I know I'm going to like it so I hit the like button within the first 10 seconds. Haven't been wrong yet. LOL

[@5x535]

I agree with you entirely! Good call David.

[@kellyroy8506]

Are the tools used in the hardy hole made of mild steel?

[@rayandrews23]

Good job John, I have a question. When you taper the end of the bar you only hit on one side leaving the othe flat. Which way did you go with the scroll. Toward the flat or the taper?

[@BlackBearForge]

That may be a bit of an illusion. BY lifting the bar slightly at the end of the drawing out it results in a centered taper. But in either case as you bend the scroll everything pretty well evens out.

[@rayandrews23]

Thanks for the reply. I guess you are an artist because I did not see you flip over the piece. I saw the squaring the sides and truing the ends and making them longer. Thanks for your time that is what makes us better Blacksmiths.

[@BlackBearForge]

I'm not sure that I did flip it while I tapered it. You can center a taper by just lifting the holding or tong hand so that the bar is no longer flat on the anvil. the anvil forms the angle on the backside while the hammer forms the angle on the front.

[@devilsanus3510]

I've noticed that your a right handed blacksmith but have your anvil set up for a lefty, is their a specific reason you do that or is that just the way you learned?

[@BlackBearForge]

I discussed the way I have my anvil set I here kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2K3h5iQlLKGjZI it is rarely so simple as a left handed smith should do one thing and a right handed smith should do another.

[@devilsanus3510]

Thanks for your reply. you make a lot of sense in that video ( although I'm not changing my anvil lol)

[@grayem76]

its always easy to make one of anything making 4 the same gets a bit harder i made 10 hooks only 4 of them are the same curve and length thats where i struggle. i made some thin steel scrolls no heat they were easy with a jig but making the jig to allow for the cold steel to spring frustrated me

[@BlackBearForge]

Material sprining back can be a problem with working cold. Using the same jig with hot material may work out better.

[@shortfuse43]

If it's thin, like 1/8" or 1/16", and springs back on you, it can be heated quickly and work along the jig curve with a propane (or MAPP) torch. No need to put thin stuff in the forge.