Forgotten Greek City of Ancient India

Nysa, a settlement that Alexander stumbled upon during his conquest of India. In this video, we look at whether there was a Greek city in the Indian Subcontinent before the coming of Alexander.
Reference:-
1. The Indo-Greeks Revisited and Supplemented: A.K. Narain
2. The invasion of India by Alexander the Great by J W Mcrindle
3. Alexander and the East by A.B Bosworth
4. Alexander the Great Vol 2 Sources and Studies by W.W. Tarn
5. Notes on Ruler-Cult, I-IV by A. D. Nock
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[@zebrunstate2815]

Central Asia was highly hellenised even before Alexander arrived there. May be few Greek central asian settlers just migrated into India

[@Liquidsback]

After the Ionian Revolt, the Persians settled a lot of Greeks from Western Anatolia to Bactria. The Ionian settlers also probably gave rise to the term in India for Greeks called Yavanna.

[@king_halcyon]

That's just false. The Bactrian cities probably hosted some exiled Greeks (exiled by Persian overlords). There was a considerable minority, which is why the Greco-Bactrian Empire was born soon after death of Alexander, after the Greeks became the rulers of the land (through Iranian intermediaries), and the pre existing Greek settlement allowed a quick consolidation of their rule over the region, which already was at the centre of great movements, including proto-Pathans, Saka, Gandharans and other Indo-Iranian groups. However, the Greeks were always a minority and didn’t leave any genetic trace (the supposed "Mediterranean marker" of Iranians comes from very early settlers). It's likely they may have maintained some degree of endogamy and cultural barrier, for which Greek influence was small and trickled slowly (it was only by the end of the Indo-Greek era, during late Indo-Scythian and Turanian kingdons contemporary to the nascent Gupta kingdom that the Hellenistic naming of the seven days based on the visible seven solar system bodies [ *classical planets* ] becomes common in northwestern India, and then spreads to rest of India under Gupta imperial rule).

[@akitodaisuke6532]

His vdos never ceased to amaze me. Learned a lot from his vdo

[@AlEx-qj3de]

Jay the legend is correct factual. On the norrh bank of the Kabul river 15km East of Charsadda town is village now town of Nyssa now called Nyassa or Nysa-ta 5km west of the Nowshera Cantt Kheshki village and 15km west of the kabul indus confluence. The Freek Demoskraos jirga system prevails whuch is an integral part of Pakhtun Afghan social culture. The upper respectable class owns land and the socially junior but well respected class id the Dekhan or land tiller cultivator in which is a portuon of gujar awan bovine pastoral farmer

[@zebrunstate2815]

Remember Alexander invasion of India was not successfully. They were soon to be defeated by Mauryans. Hence most of the Greek settlers in India were not from the time of Alexander. They came here during the time of Indo-Greek kingdoms

[@rishavkumar1250]

​@@zebrunstate2815uske pehle bhi aye the

[@markaxworthy2508]

Another clear exposition. Thanks.

[@anjalisharangpani9139]

I am quite impressed by your presentation of ancient Indian history. Wish you great success in the field.

[@mskclasses8496]

Great one brother, can you make a video about the arms and armour of ancient India

[@antoniotorcoli702]

Amazing video

[@contemporarymatters8106]

Very informative.

[@raginisingh2251]

V informative video

[@rajarshipal6722]

Very interesting discussion. I read a book based on historical accounts written in Hindi by a traveller in 19th century, Rahul Sankrittayan. Rahul Sankrittayan was an expert on Brahmi-lipi, interested in archeology. He discovered clay tablets in Baishali, north Bihar. The clay tablets were written by an individual contemporary to Lord Buddha. The tablets mentioned about existence of Yavan or Greek origin people in north-western border of India whose descendants created settlements within north-India along the banks of Ganges. They were in war with Nanda kingdom of Magadha. Given that Lord Buddha appeared about two hundred years before Alexander, those writings were proof of Greeks residing before invasion of Alexander.

[@AI-ok1ch]

PAKISTAN HISTORY IS BEAUTIFUL ... FILLED WITH GREEK AND IRANIAN PEOPLE

[@NorthIndianlama]

I born in punjab amritsar my grand grand parents from jammu kashmir. I got my DNA and found that I north indian and Greek blood . That's the reason most of people in family very fair skin some hazel eyes brown hairs .

[@AI-ok1ch]

come to PAKISTAN ... WE WERE PART OF GREAT GREEK AND IRANIAN EMPIRES

[@chitanyaaaa]

Forced Converted people you all are ​@@AI-ok1ch

[@Panos835]

I was reading around Nysa in Arrian book literally yesterday about Dionysos and followers. It is so wonderful to know the history of some places and the impact that hellenic civilization played sych important role in the past Subscribed :)

[@_natureisgod]

Good Information❤

[@jayrangani]

Wow, great information, bro can you make video on ancient and medieval india's slurs and bad words?

[@paharipant2]

ionian-yona-yavan are very similar. My conspiracy theory - Probably after fall of troy some ionians emigrated this side.

[@MrAmitkr007]

The reality is this. Indians were indeed once world religion. Yavan means one looks young as Greeks usually looked pretty young. So did the South Chinese mysterious people and they were also called yunan. Greeks are actually called yunani as well. Chinese emperors and ancient writers believed that Greece was settled by their ancestors - maybe a substratum of them. Anyways, the source word is sanskrit. This is further helped by the fact that the areas from which Greeks emerged were ruled by mitanni and hittites just few centuries before Greeks emerged and nothing is known of the intermediate period. Mitanni and hittites were clearly Vedic people, they worshipped Vedic gods and ruled over Greece Turkey ex

[@gamingtech3983]

Bhai aapaka knowledge to kamaal ka hai🛐

[@benefactor4309]

Pre Buddhist history bhi discuss kariye

[@thestormbreaker6221]

Ok so it means that the native people of kamboja , were mostly iranians and greeks ..... Maybe that's the reason they are mentioned as " Anarya " in vedic texts .

[@AI-ok1ch]

PAKISTAN ... IT WAS NEVER INDIAN

[@varasarah]

Before Alphabets were used in Sanskrit To write Greek or Aramicwere used in India Am I correct

[@vikt28animallover]

These Greek settlers were common masses from Asia Minor or turkey because western half of turkey was under Greek influence if there was a rebellion within the Greek provinces of the Persian empire the Persian emperor would exile them as slaves to a city or a camp that was situated in the far reaches of the Persian empire one such city was dayuan as referred to by Chinese sources in Afghanistan and Nysa in northwestern India because before Alexander’s conquest north western India aka Pakistan was under the control of the Persian empire.

[@AI-ok1ch]

PAKISTAN ... THERE was no india thst time lol nuyse was located in gandhara in pakistan

[@AI-ok1ch]

pakistan people are history filled with greek and iranian people not bharat

[@ayushkumarsingh3029]

They were the dispalced greeks from Ionia and Cyrene . Darius 1 displaced a lot og greeks in Bactria and nw india.

[@suryasen7]

There were no "Greeks" in nw India or Bactria just like there were no "Aryans" it is a scam perpetuated by western coin collectors.

[@arudrakumar4540]

What shocks me was !? If any reference coordinates with Western then it was a possibility of their influence and culture on Bharat 🇮🇳. But Bharat greatness and immenseness was not accepted ! Not even as possibility! Even by these reference source scriptures!! No one can explain this logic (except anti Bharat) 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Mahdi20832]

nice...❤ vedic period there were only few gods... but we see many gods afterwards... is it because of Greek gods??😮😮😊

[@rajputa_na]

Few?

[@parjanyashukla176]

Greeks never really had any impact East of Punjab.

[@agnibsyndicate5830]

No your assumptions are wrong. Hinduism is not about few gods or many gods hindu philosophy is different than other pegan religion we believe in rebirth and also believe than all gods and devtas are the manifestation of of one supreme God the Pram Brahman.

[@drsantoshsinghrathore9308]

​@@agnibsyndicate5830Does the Vedic system have one Supreme God?

[@rachitborkar]

Even indo Europeans believed in reincarnation and cyclical time... That's not a new concept...​@@agnibsyndicate5830

[@natalkumar6132]

Dionysus, Danavraj, Yama, Jamshed, Vivasvan, Surya, Shani. I believe this is the story. Danavraj (Dionysus) defeated Vivasvan(Surya) and took his son Jamshed(Yama). Later Jamshed would fight with Shani in a great war where he was spared after damaging his legs. These stories might have some connection with Jamshed the king of Nysa.

[@HhshhsHh-dw3qq]

Make a video on Hindu kush?

[@balarajkakumanu9882]

Yavvanas we heard , they are both turks and Greeks. If we can observe from pakistan and other Islamic nations like afganistan, kazikistan all looks like Europeans. But it is nice video

[@orthodox_Christian601]

Jai Dada Alexander ⚔️⚔️ Jai yavana Khatri ⚔️⚔️

[@user-ru5qh8xn4v]

It interesting among the jewish beni israel found in dna test that jewis man from Greece and jewish man from Yemen arrived to india and mix with indian women, and they the beginning oj beni israel

[@PratapKNair]

Probably Peshawar

[@kamath234]

There is so much we have not been taught in our history classes

[@Playerone1287]

Agar padha dete to tu hi bolta ki our education system is bad, chote se bacho ko itna padha diya

[@kamath234]

@@Playerone1287 LoL. ye bhi sahi hai

[@AI-ok1ch]

1:34 .... but india starts from punjab borders... howyou can say this city an indin

[@ramgovindgunale2]

Panini existed during +6th century

[@vishwamohanprasadsingh9908]

Rig veda 10.99.3

[@suryasen7]

Jai vardhan singh believes just aboyt anything if it comes from a "western source'

[@lazydamsel]

Really?

[@rishavkumar1250]

Abe jaahil gawar... that's because there's little to no indian source

[@MAHAMADAMAHAMADA-wb2ep]

BHAARATHAM RULE THE WORLD

[@sonarbangla8711]

I often thought Panini was a Greko-Roman, because his mane rhymes with other Roman names like Pagolini, Padolini and many other similar names. The Greko-Romans had a long time relation with the Indians, learning arithmetic, geometry etc., and had Vedic names like Oaronus, Mitra, Indra, Agni, etc. Implying Panini was a Greek and learned grammar.

[@sebastianbalbo1906]

Bullshits

[@rajputa_na]

Because Greek and Sanskrit are from Same language family

[@parjanyashukla176]

Do you really believe this nonsense? Before the Greek invasion, India had practically no contact with the outside world. Panini is a patronymic - it means, (born of) Pana. And Romans have had no presence anywhere in India except for trading outposts.

[@Amitraghaata]

Never seen a more retarded comment than this. Pajeeets don't deserve to be on any social media.

[@Amitraghaata]

Oaronus is not a Vedic name pejeeet

[@parjanyashukla176]

You missed out the part where traces of child molestation had been found in these encroachment complexes but these findings were deliberately ignored by the Western historians. It could have provided us a confirmatory link on the Greek origins of bachchabazi in Afghanistan.

[@rudranilghosh2187]

I want to know about the Kalash people who lived in India since thousands of years. Now they live in the present Pakistan.

[@gravewalker34]

Ive seen dna data they are local with females from central asia or steppes.about 35% -15%Pakistani women have european mtdna lineages. Even many tamil obc and upper jatis have European mothers due to greco roman slave trade as well.

[@suryasen7]

​@@gravewalker34lol, those geneticists call everything as European if they find one example of it there. All European mtdna lineages comes from India.

[@gravewalker34]

@@suryasen7 You can check urself. Indian jatts have same last names as germanic gothic ppl. Goth gettae and jatt also sound similar. Anyone who doesnt come under varnashram is potentially a foreign migrant as well. Have u seen how Pakistani men are dark but their women r white looking?

[@suryasen7]

@@gravewalker34 ha, you are just another aryanist pervert. Varnashrma dharma was not some assimilation scheme like amreeka you deracinated pervert. It's been proven many times that India harbored the founding lineages both male and female that spanned out across Eurasia. Fail again aryanist miyan. Types like you can be spotted instantly

[@tishantchhabra6856]

​@@gravewalker34No Pakistani men are also beautiful Punjabi Khatris which considered most beautiful in India are basically of Pakistani origin.

[@AI-ok1ch]

pakistan was part of non indian empires ... this history belongs to our ancestors

[@NorthIndianlama]

But my ancestors became buddhist . That time only buddhism was existed .

[@vivekpnice]

Bhai hindi me hi video banaya karo to log dekhte hai mjhe apka channel pasand hai pr mai fir bhi kum dekhta hu because aap video me hindi nahi banaye sath me aa classroom ki tarah bolte chalne jate ho bina pics ka use karo for example kb apne kabul river bola apko map dekhna chahiye tha jb greek god bola to dekhni thi apki video se aisa lgta hai ki apko topic ki knowledge hai pr vo audience me transfer krna vo bhi laymen language me important logo ko to bina map ke smjh nahi aega aap kya bol rahe ho yavna kon hai Indian ko bhi nahi pata maine padha hai to mai smjh gaya ab takshila bola kaha hai ye kya pata logo ko

[@anjanpratapsingh727]

He has a Hindi channel

[@vivekpnice]

@@anjanpratapsingh727 please share the link

[@stormshadow5283]

It was probably a Greek settlement outside the main Indian city/settlement. Greeks are mleccha and therefore would be considered untouchables and thus not allowed to reside in main settlements inhabited by Hindus/early Buddhists. Most likely the Greek settlements was also settled by other social outcasts and/or other untouchables.

[@vinaySingh-ny7un]

IF THIS IS THE LEVEL OF YOUR LOGICAL ARGUMENT THEN I REALLY DOUBT ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SCHOLARSHIP IN INDIA😢😢😢.

[@stormshadow5283]

@@vinaySingh-ny7un bruh....that is how things were.

[@bruhaspati560]

​@@vinaySingh-ny7unplease tell us why it's not credible then?

[@rowlattgamer3355]

You are partially right here. Greeks had their own settlements not because they were considered untouchable. Earlier Greeks had political and military power than other common indians and they preferred to live under fortified military garrisons

[@stormshadow5283]

@rowlattgamer3355 that is one view....however, much of the natives didn't seek to mingle themselves with Greeks whom they saw as mlecchas and invaders. It's more like they didn't have any option besides living separately. Remember, Greek fortifications came up only after Alexander's invasion not prior. It is likely the Persian kings would give such a free hand to "rebels" giving them the freedom to build "fortified cities" exclusively inhabited by said rebels in semi Autonomous regions on the far edge of their empire.

[@whatisthis9876]

Arya and Dasa is clearly defined in rigveda

[@madrasman8883]

Which slokha? Lier

[@whatisthis9876]

@madrasman8883 if I show u, will u accept that u and all hindutvas are stupids? Already many slokas are removed because they sound too barbaric

[@AtheistNationalist]

Arya is literally mentioned just 1 in vedas and are defined as those who participate in yajnas, worship Agni, Indra and Varuna, and took part in poetry. Go take your Dravidian DMK IT cell somewhere else

[@whatisthis9876]

@WojtekDaBear2005 ur definition of arya as per rigveda is wrong. This proves u have never cares about rigveda or any hindutva scriptures. The word Arya with its declensional forms occurs 36 times in the Rigveda.. 13 times with Dasa, 9 times with Dasyu, 2 times with Dasyu and Dasah I am ready for live debate bring ur source of rigveda. Go spread ur talibanism (aka hindutva) in afghan. This is land of buddah and truth

[@rajputa_na]

@@whatisthis9876 Buddha is Aryan himself go read Buddhist books

[@manthanpandya7501]

What about archeological findings? Have we found pre 3-4th century BCE artifacts in the present day West Punjab and Kabul region? And after Alexander, other than Indo Greek sculptures and coins, what are findings of Greek related rule? Have we found buildings base or Greek style temples base? Greeks ruled in the Punjab and Afghanistan area over two centuries, so obviously they would have built structures!! I know most of them were destroyed over time but do we have remains left?

[@tvrulz46]

Jay has made videos on the indo Greek kingdom which you should watch

[@manthanpandya7501]

@@tvrulz46 i have watched all his previous videos but I am more interested here to know about possible archeological findings of Greeks in India before Alexander and also after him. If you read my comment again, my focus is not on Greek style sculptures or coins but more about buildings or structures

[@tvrulz46]

@@manthanpandya7501 then I would recommend the Hellenistic age podcast which has scholarly commentary on the topic of Alexander’s invasion, Greco bactrians and Indo Greeks and would have the info you are seeking. Dont take my previous comment as an insult bro I’m just helping you find more sources. It’s great that you are seeking out the info.

[@ayushkumarsingh3029]

​@@manthanpandya7501Structural monuments of history from c.1500 to 273 bce is non existent. We have only rajgir wall from this period. No monuments of kings like chandragupta maurya,bimbisara,ajashtru and nanda exists

[@ayushkumarsingh3029]

Some owl headed greek coins had been found from Kabul hoard dated to 380 bce

[@dghffjfd]

There is no comparison between greek and bharat bcoz Bharat is bharat the oldest greatest himan civilization in the words of mark Twain bharat or india is the cradle of human civilization greek stole our(hindu) knowledge our scriptures our science and repackage it and call it as their its the habit of Western civilization

[@Aethelwulf_of_Westseaxe]

You sound like a n**ger going about how the Europeans stole everything starting from pyramids to Jesus from the blacks

[@AI-ok1ch]

ANDHBAKHT PAKISTAN IS CRADLE OF OLDEST CIVILIZATION NOT inida

[@magma9000]

(Modern day Pakistan)

[@ompaik2863]

😂😂😭😭

[@hiicyuivbi]

Now the great and beautiful north west india has become radicalized and beggars with no food

[@rowlattgamer3355]

Ayee saar ancient Pakistan 🤡🤡

[@animedc69]

Not Pakistan. It's afghanistan

[@Your_real_dad]

Pakistan 😂😂

[@sebastianbalbo1906]

Achmenid empire extended from persia to Thracia Made possible the contact since 720 -690 b.c I m from italy we know indians were presnt in Athen after and before destruction And they inhabited in egypt and Syria