500cc 3-Cylinder vs 500cc V8! Automation Game

[@alexzeyos]

in motorcycle races , it could be a 1966 MV Agusta 500 versus a 1955 Moto Guzzi

[@daWKin548]

You need to make these engines that rev high over square, you always have square bore and stroke regardless of your intended application, which is not the case in real life. Over square is better for high revs and high power due to the increased valve area, under square better for torque and lower rev applications

[@ThePaulv12]

There's nothing like a specious argument ay? I could rattle off a dozen production car engines that defy what you just wrote. What you're talking about is the excise system of post war Europe that favored underaquare low performance engines. High revs and undersquare engines are common for the last 40 years or so.

[@daWKin548]

@@ThePaulv12the point of my comment is that he never changes the ratio, he always puts in square ratios no matter what, huge low revving engines, small high revving engines, still a square ratio. He doesn’t even try under square like the E46 M3 engine, he doesn’t try hugely over square like a 600cc motorbike

[@timothylessing4774]

6&¼" stroke with 6&¼" bore revving to 10,000 RPM!!!!!!

[@_IMNNO]

It depends on the displacement and engine config though. For example, the LS/Q or the VQ40DE engines in trucks/suvs are over square and still have low down torque. Specific cam specs, lengthened / tighter intake, and a really large bore, can increase torque values low down in the rev range.

[@camrongoodall]

Should put them in the same car/truck to see which is better

[@mociczyczki]

i3 show more power everywhere so with i3 truck will go better 👌🏻maybe except wibration 😉👍🏻

[@bluemutt9964]

​@@mociczyczkiedited and you still can't spell

[@gn6969]

​@@mociczyczkibruh trucks need more torque

[@mociczyczki]

@@gn6969 for towing heavy stufff ? no …. except wear noise fuel consumption and couple other stufff they only need specified level of power 👌🏻beside loook on graph i3 produce more power at the same rpm = more torq almostveverywhere 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[@Nicolas-bu5uv]

​@@bluemutt9964so desperate about person's grammar in youtube comments, huh?

[@chumanho]

50,000cc 3-Cylinder vs 50,000cc V8 next! 😊

[@RailsofForney]

You can’t make a 50L of either of those engines in stock Automation, sadly.

[@RailsofForney]

But if he did make that work somehow I’d definitely watch

[@willfarren]

That v8’s redline should be double what you have there.

[@andreaperri3293]

Now do a 3L I3 vs a 3L V8

[@TE_53349]

id love a tiny v8 for a motorcycle

[@KayoMichiels]

Moto Guzzi did it in 1955! But was only for a special bike for the Isle of Man TT

[@RailsofForney]

The i3 is the exact setup that the Pigeon has, (except it’s pushrod instead of OHC)

[@montroxpl]

V8 500cc 2t vs 4t 😮 challenge pls

[@thejdmguy]

Can you make 4l v8 vs 4l i6?

[@valferdinandmonissabiano8641]

So the lesser the cylinders, the more the power? So a 1.6L Inline-4 F1 engine will be much powerful than the current 1.6L V6 using the same hybrid system? Also, the 500cc V8 is like 2 ZX-25R engines put together but the redline is halved.

[@alexandruianu8432]

As long as it doesn't shake itself apart from the revs, fewer cylinders means fewer losses, but at very high revs, the size of the combustion chamber plays a part too.

[@JaNe-g1t]

Boost tests please

[@Eldeboradordehamburgesas]

pero son 50 kilos de peso de carga le hubieras puesto unos 1.5 toneladas de peso

[@thehobo00]

lol uploaded 30 seconds ago

[@damanchur604]

lol uploaded 3 minutes ago

[@SM8150-AC]

7 minutes for me 💀

[@martinmaracek657]

23 minutes for me

[@mag-7897]

7 years for some random ass mf in the future

[@NolanBabcock]

Is that a mod for the different graphs at the bottom and different flow bench/torque & rpm graphs on the right side?

[@shauno_420fam3]

Does more cylinders equal more better? Hi I'm James and this is automation welcome to Donut

[@xxdave70xx]

Not always, remember more cylinders are more friction

[@shauno_420fam3]

@@xxdave70xx think you missed the joke dave

[@Wreckedekcoupe]

What do you play this game on? Just pc?

[@ForgottenMustard]

Yes, it's only on PC.

[@maxhills89]

Why not 5000cc 3 cylinder

[@sean5comet]

Torque and hp ALWAYS intersect at 5252 rpm's.

[@martinzhang5533]

This is what happens when you learn only the conclusion and not how to get there. It obviously does not hold true when the unit is not ft-lbs

[@tkmad7470]

That graph should cross at 5252 RPM. Something is wrong.

[@Stale_Mahoney]

something it not wrong because it's not torque per toe limb its torque on the form or newton meters

[@tkmad7470]

@@Stale_Mahoney Ah, you're right, I keep forgetting you guys can only divide by 10 :)

[@Stale_Mahoney]

@@tkmad7470 don't worry one day i believe you will become a independent country from england and you are free to go away from the IMPERIAl system ;)

[@mag-7897]

​@@tkmad7470Bro, you count using feets wtf are you talking about, no one except some stupid mf use that

[@Nicolas-bu5uv]

​@@Stale_Mahoneythat was a nice one

[@bluemutt9964]

Too bad this doesn't translate to real life

[@mociczyczki]

3 cyl 10% more power 😂 fan boys of v8 be unhappy 🤐 you know reason why this 3 cyl show more power than v8 in this comparision ? 😎

[@hugoku8755]

Cause this game dont able more extreme tuning for really high rpms. Else it would be the opposite

[@Avetho]

To an extent, the I3 is more efficient with its power than the V8 since the cylinders are closer to the optimal volume of around 500cc each. A 4.0L V8 or a 2.0L I4 or a 3.0L V6, or like Audi's 2.5L I5, those are the more optimal engine sizes. So a 1.5L I3 is good, or a 5.0L V10 or a 6.0L V12. Edit: Cosworth themselves said that 450cc to 550cc is optimal because any smaller and the flame front reaches the cylinder walls too fast, and any larger and its still moving with the piston too far in its stroke to make much extra power, losing efficiency, so a high torque engine is more undersquare than a high rpm engine that is more oversquare.

[@sav22rem22]

Because this a video game lmfao. Even old choked out emissions era v8s somehow make more power than i3s

[@Stale_Mahoney]

@@sav22rem22 wrong but if al other stats are unchanged in this video with flow and exhaust size valves and spring stiffness, then what you are seeing here is the loss of power due to the extra moving parts in the v8 and the friction of pistons against cylinder walls and stuff, as the volume is the same and the 3cyl dont have 5 more friction making pistons, 20 extra valve springs to fight and a second cam to turn it gets to operate more efficiently, long story short parasitic loss is in all engines, but fewer moving parts means less loss.

[@mociczyczki]

@@hugoku8755 where you seeen avg road fsmily car rev to 8 k rpm + 🤭 beside this you probably right but as long as we dont go for extreme power from specified displacement so for racing car for race its not the case 😉👌🏻though v8 assuming optimal parts setup ok optimal for each be not as much off power like in this simulation where everything is similar except cylinder quantity and valves and setup 👌🏻