Ian: Today we're taking a look on a gun made in Finla.. Finns: You have summoned us
@persesaurus2 жыл бұрын
You. Dont. Want. To. Summon. Us. We drink your booze, and steal your guns.
@funnypanini55402 жыл бұрын
@@persesaurus true
@matteom21742 жыл бұрын
@@persesaurus * glances at m/39 mosin* I don’t think anyone has a problem with fins taking guns and making them much better lol
@AmstradExin2 жыл бұрын
You have suomenned us
@stoneylonesome4062 Жыл бұрын
Hyvää Suomi. I am Albanian, and spent some of my childhood in Finland (a lot of people in the Balkans moved there after the wars), and I have nothing but good things to say about Finnish people and society. Although they can be a bit cold, and drink much more than I typically do.
@Karithinksso6 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this... Aimo Lahti was our Browning. A story tells that he got a written permission from Marshal Mannerheim to drink while working. Have to check that out...
@weeb32446 жыл бұрын
aopfin he did pretty well for the situation he and the country were in
@Devin_Stromgren6 жыл бұрын
Yes, Browning had the unfair advantage of living in a country NOT worried about Soviet invasion.
@weeb32446 жыл бұрын
Devin Stromgren and the country having adequate industry
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqw6 жыл бұрын
explains why the gun got banned in sweden after exploding in a soldiers hands
@Hipas_Account6 жыл бұрын
no that was just the Finns having the brotherly love and pulling a prank on the poor swede.
@cenglish10646 жыл бұрын
Full auto problem? That sounds like a premium feature...
@soldierfromkrieg64606 жыл бұрын
i forgot to pray during the cleansing of the city
@WineScrounger6 жыл бұрын
You have to unlock it by killing three tanks in a streak.
@FinnishComrade6 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why that was a thing with Finnish weapons, the same thing occured with the first Jatimatic, submachine guns too. "Lets make a pistol... why the hell this shoots full auto!"
@ThriftEGaming6 жыл бұрын
They also got rid of the shoulder stock on the commercial gun. Two bad design decisions right there... ;)
@harri98855 жыл бұрын
Open bolt system. :)
@dongilleo97434 жыл бұрын
Having lived in Finland for a couple of years, and having an interest in Finnish firearms, I always wanted to get a Lahti pistol. Years ago I ran across a dealer at a gun show who had one. I recognized it immediately from it's distinctive shape. It was an original wartime VKT pistol. Just my luck, this was one of those times I was low on cash, and couldn't get it. The same dealer also had an early 1944 marked wartime German P-38, still in it's original holster, undoubtedly brought back to the U.S. back a returning U.S. soldier; another pistol I had been looking for. So not having the money available to buy both these guns was a double whammy of disappointment, and I've never seen another Lahti, or a good wartime P-38 ever again. It may be for the best. Although I had read about Lahti pistol and of their breakdown if fired with hot ammo, I hadn't stopped to check that particular pistol for cracks. It really would have been disappointing to have bought it, gotten it home, and then find a crack in the frame or barrel. Sometime later, when the holster for the swedish gun came on the market, I bought one. It was in good condition, and came with the two extra magazines. I thought I could use these if I ever found another Lahti, since the one I'd seen came with neither holster or spare magazines. Speaking of which, I didn't see this covered for certain in the video, but I am wondering if anyone has definitive knowledge of whether or not swedish magazines will fit and function in the Finnish Lahti.
@kojekiheibi67973 жыл бұрын
I had a Swedish L-35. It quickly developed a crack in the frame where the locking block engaged the barrel extention (under the rear sight), I didn't know about the under powered ammo, but it also looked like a design mistake, in that the recesses had sharp internal corners rather than rounded. This was in 1953.
@ristoalanko92816 жыл бұрын
The hump on the slide was intended to contain a coupling stabilizer, a spring-loaded plunger. The slide assist spring was under the barrel in front part of the frame. Those parts were dropped after the 0-series. The 1. series still had the spaces milled.
@teemuhotari74226 жыл бұрын
9:00 This is what Apple does these days. "It's slightly different, and it won't fit. So you'll have to buy our new accessories instead of using the old ones."
@ProudToBeNoob6 жыл бұрын
Teemu Hotari Seems a bit unlike the Finns to do that. You'd think that the Finns of all people would appreciate such interchangeability.
@teemuhotari74226 жыл бұрын
ProudToBeNoob As a Finn myself, I know. Apple and its unpractical products were the first thing to have in mind. And of course it was a joke.
@BullettiAPE6 жыл бұрын
Especially in a way where they can use others' parts and others can't use theirs, like the mortars. Or so I've heard.
@deltavee24 жыл бұрын
Which is why, right from the start years ago I never considered Apple for purchase. They verged on beautiful design but their greed put me right off permanently. Great design, evil company.
@Logan-zp8bi3 жыл бұрын
@@deltavee2 They've gotten better! Jk their still lobbying to ban repairing iphones and intentionally making parts not work (even from another iphone using part ID voodoo), and then the places licensed to fix the iphone always make it more expensive than actually buying a new one. Same as how Dell pushes tech recycling so people can't just get a older pc for basic tasks.
@johnm39076 жыл бұрын
Looks like a luger crossed with a nambu. A lugbu
@benbilbrey7495 жыл бұрын
john m A nambger
@Raygun2223 жыл бұрын
Nager.
@marvindebot32643 жыл бұрын
With just a hint of broom handle Mauser thrown in.
@johnm39073 жыл бұрын
@@marvindebot3264 i dont remember writing this comment
@miyamotomusashi39683 жыл бұрын
@@johnm3907 take it easy with the ritalin
@FairDinkvm6 жыл бұрын
By the way, in Swedish service the m/40 was affectionally known as the “Kamrat 40”, translating to “Comrade 40”, at least by us at my artillery regiment, but also by some coastal artillery men I knew
@BTemple6 жыл бұрын
I owned one of these for a few days... bought it from a company in Quebec online and when it arrived I noticed the slide looked odd. Took it to my gunsmith and he proceeded to show me that there was a hairline crack in the slide running along almost its whole length and ended up splitting the feed-ramp in half. Totally unsafe to fire and not able to be repaired. Thankfully the company/shop gave me a full refund when I returned it. Sadly I haven't seen one since.... they're certainly rare to find in Canada.
@ChaplainPhantasm6 жыл бұрын
Yep..If the Luger doesn't work, take a Lahti, it's "cheaper"..
@WardenWolf4 жыл бұрын
Russian soldier asking another about his captured pistol: "Lahti?" "Da!" :P
@alichi1016 жыл бұрын
Always interesting to see these kinda collections presented. Comparing variants and their associated history makes for great content.
@vesa70696 жыл бұрын
Another Finnish firearm in Forgotten Weapons! Keep them coming, Ian. :D
@MrHws5mp6 жыл бұрын
Well that was interesting, not least because it disproves the claims in two 'authoritative' reference books I've got which both say: 1. The Lahti is very reliable and well-sealed to keep out dirt (no mention of breakages with hot loads), 2. The Lahti is very difficult to disassemble and you shouldn't attempt it without a full tool kit I wonder whether a lot of these reference books just copy each other, i.e. one guy said "Lahtis are hard to dismantle" back in the '60s and everybody's just copied it since without actually checking it by looking at an actual gun? There's certainly evidence of this phenomenon in aircraft reference books...
@ZGryphon6 жыл бұрын
"Plagiarize! Let no one else's work evade your eyes! Remember why the good Lord _made_ your eyes so don't shade your eyes but plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize! Only be sure always to call it please 'research'." - Tom Lehrer, "Lobachevsky" (1960)
@peterstickney76086 жыл бұрын
I'll not speak to the issues with running hot loads through - my Swedish M40 has a replacement barrel extension - But I can certainly attest that it will function very nicely at -30 (F or C, they're 'bout the same) temperatures. Frost and snow certainly aren't issues. The only issues I've had are failures to feed with soft-nose (not jacketed) ammunition, and some really, really light reloads. - the high grip angle really demands a jacketed bullet - the round kind of porpoises in. It's certainly a dream to field strip it - like a SIG P220.
@fuzzydunlop79286 жыл бұрын
YO That Tom Lehrer reference. Good stuff!
@Niinsa626 жыл бұрын
Great video! You commented on the quite impressive weight of the gun. In Sweden a common nickname for the gun was "Jarnspisen" which means "The Iron Stove". I guess partly because of the weight, and partly because Husqvarna also manufactured iron stoves. Maybe they still do. They used to make pretty much everything, chain saws, hot dog vending machines, motorcycles, guns, you name it. I know they still make chain saws!
@skyrimn00b986 жыл бұрын
Just saw you on vice news. Your interview was pretty interesting and it was cool to hear your take on all this after watching your videos for so long. I think your videos are great and very educational. Keep up the good work.
@ForgottenWeapons6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AveragePootis5 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons oh what Vice? VICE??? I would not be surprised if they tried to make you look out as a lover of mass shootings since they are vice and you are associated with guns! But great video keep up the good job!
@thelitmango63335 жыл бұрын
@@AveragePootis vice is the only of few news people that actually go into wars and shooting, only people I could really find covering the fighting in ukraine and what not.
@l.a.mottern31065 жыл бұрын
I have hefted a Lahti L-35 before--These pistols really are Heavy.
@kojekiheibi67973 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@v.w.63636 жыл бұрын
Clicked the like button the second I opened the video. Cant go wrong with Ian and Lahti. One of my favourite handguns, very pleasant to shoot!
@FairDinkvm6 жыл бұрын
This was great. True about the structural weakens when using hot ammunition. I used the m/40 occasionally when I did my military service, and since I was also issued with a m/45 SMG, I fired it using the same m/39B 9mm cartridges we loaded in our Carl Gustavs, but that cartridge really was to hot for the pistol.
@jballew22396 жыл бұрын
While it was not a Finnish variant (rather, a Swedish one) I had issues with the extractor misbehaving, when using hot ammo.
@StPaul766 жыл бұрын
The wartime FDF 9mm service load packed a punch.. 124gr @ 1300fps.. Actually the rumour says that particular load was one of the reasons why alloy frame FN service pistols of late decades were quickly shot out of tolerance for using that SMG-ammo meant for Suomi KP-31..
@mordecaieagle42406 жыл бұрын
StPaul76 Those Fn BDAs were horrible pistols, it would have been more accurate to just throw the damn thing at the target.
@juhai70486 жыл бұрын
Mordecai Eagle - FN BDAs are just fine, the bad rep comes from the fact that the guns have been misused by tens of thousands of hands during the last almost 30 years of service and they haven't been properly overhauled at any point. I should know, two of our overseas service pistols (FNs) had worn firing pins, and another few had dead hammer springs. Nothing we could do to fix them out there, so we just hung on to our RKs. Can't even imagine how worn all the barrels were.
@dickursby17256 жыл бұрын
Kiitos Mestari.
@andythem320guy96 жыл бұрын
Word of the day Finish. These Finnish guns have a nice finish, no pun intended.
@legocity26436 жыл бұрын
I'm a sucker for anything Finnish, so thanks very much Ian! I've heard a lot about this gun but never got to see it as in depth as you went. Keep up the amazing content, KZbin be damned!
@MikeBaxterABC6 жыл бұрын
The background reminds me of when I was at my Cousins house in Montreal, back in the 70's ... i was 12 years old and my parents sent me on the train, to stay withy them for a few weeks ... (They and they were rich "city kids" and I lived on a farm in a swamp, in Northern Ontario) They had a fireplace JUST like this, in their living room, (notice it's never been used) Of course growing up on the farm I awake smartly at 6:00 am (sorry i slept in) ... it was a bit chilly (you guessed it) and there was some Birch Logs beside the Fireplace ... I could;t find an axe, but there was a fancy clever in the knife drawer ... :) Well fortunately it was a REAL fireplace ... BUT one of my cousins still called the fire department! :) Legend has it they actually USED the fireplace occasionally after that! :)
@AdurianJ5 жыл бұрын
The Swedish army used these until the 1980's when the rear of the guns started fracturing due to the Swedish army using m/39B as it's standard ammo.
@Hubert_Cumberdale_5 жыл бұрын
For a short period after that we started using the mle1903 again.
@TzunSu Жыл бұрын
Kind of odd that they couldn't get ahold of pistol ammunition. My father used to shoot the m/45b competitively, and they always used military pistol ammo, much more weakly loaded.
@AdurianJ Жыл бұрын
@@TzunSu Practices have changed the m/39B can go through pistol body armor so there was a big scare about it. The military in Sweden used to hand out ammo to shooting clubs in the past because it was good for marksmanship in the population.
@borjesvensson866110 ай бұрын
@@TzunSuprobably just cause of. Hey i need 9mm ammo. Okay here you have a bunch
@TzunSu10 ай бұрын
@@borjesvensson8661 Oh no, they chose them specifically for the lower recoil. When you're shooting at targets, you don't need much energy, and especially shooting full auto the difference is big. I think if they got whatever was lying around it would be much more likely they would have gotten the (much more common, in military use) B round. I *think* it was the 9mm sk ptr m/39 they were specifically looking for. My dad competed in national finals, so was very picky about things like this :P Welded the barrel for example, for better accuracy. Means you have to toss the gun when the barrel is finished, but they were basically free from surplus by the time my dad was shooting.
@TheAngler22106 жыл бұрын
Honestly why are machining marks disliked so much by most people? i think they give the guns a really well-made look, no one ever bubba´d the gun up with a polishing wheel (breaking the sharp edges).
@ZombieWilfred6 жыл бұрын
TheAngler2210 Because it's a big part of the "finish" in "fit and finish." It's not necessary to polish the exterior of the gun, but most people think the metal surface looks nicer, and like the smooth feel of polished metal. I don't mind machine marks myself, function is what matters. My VZ 58 has them and I love the gun. I also love the high polish blue on the sides of my 1911, though.
@juhomaki-petaja6 жыл бұрын
Why military pistol should be beautiful. If it doesent run, crome it.
@alanpassat67596 жыл бұрын
TheAngler2210 Its a sign of components being chewed out with heavy feeds. Poor finish. Cheap.
@juhomaki-petaja6 жыл бұрын
Paul Passat: It doesent matter in exterior especially in war time productions. Critical and moving(sliding) parts are different.
@TheAngler22106 жыл бұрын
Cheap and fast production doesnt necessarily mean poor quality, but efficiency. And to everyone: I ofcourse only meant outer surfaces and surfaces that dont work against anything. You dont want machining marks on your feed ramp, bolt raceways, slide rails etc. Im well aware.
@PostalPatriot5566 жыл бұрын
When I saw them on the table, I was excited to see so many lugers in one place...
@peterstickney76086 жыл бұрын
Think of it as a Luger with all the unnecessary complication taken out. If you're OK with the weight, it's a very good shooter, and you can count on it to work.
@ChaplainBald6 жыл бұрын
After the war, people would accidentaly shoot the 9mm rounds ment for KP-31 with the L-35 and have them destroyed. There were two types of ammunition, one for the pistols and one for the smg. Ammo ment for pistols were loaded with lower charge and had a green label on front the box and the smg ammo box's had red label, that had much stronger powder charge (about 30-35% stronger than the ammo ment for pistols). You could shoot the pistol ammo with the KP-31, there were stoppages and malfunctions due to the lower load of the ammo.
@StPaul766 жыл бұрын
Oliko se niin että KP-patruunassa oli myös punainen lakkatiiviste hylsyn suulla..? Jos näin niin niitähän sitä räiskittiin FN:n DA'llakin että pölisi.. :D Ainakin ne patruuna-askit mitä availtiin 'Firmassa' -96 oli vuoskymmeniä wanhoja pahviaskeja, vuosilukua en muista.. D166-luodilla ladatut 7,62x53R-patruunat oli ainakin jostain 60-luvulta sen muistan varmasti kun tarkka-ampujana olin.. :D
@ChaplainBald6 жыл бұрын
Kyllä on. Kummallakin patruunalla on/oli oma lakkatiiviste. Lahden alkuperästä patruunaa tuskin enää mistään löydät, mutta KP:n omaa vanhaa sodan ajan latausta löytyy vielä sieltä täältä.
@StPaul766 жыл бұрын
Kaikkee sitä muistaakin.. :D Jooh ne on tulisia pikku napsuja ne.. Pistoolilla ampuessa näyttää hienoa suuliekkiä ja hylsykin lähtee kuin hauki makuulta.. :D
@Hubert_Cumberdale_5 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened in sweden
@mickejohans97305 жыл бұрын
@@Hubert_Cumberdale_ At least in Sweden the the m/39 had black lacquer between the bullet/case and primer while the m/39b had red lacquer so you could easily tell which is which.
@lancerevell59794 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite military pistols. Love the video, very informative!
@unccred6 жыл бұрын
Whoever's house that is they certainly have an eclectic and complete collection of series' of guns.
@hamm60356 жыл бұрын
This is a great example of what I love most about Forgotten Weapons. Ian it just was great. Thank you.
@SonOfAldabarran6 жыл бұрын
Ian, I had a Jane's book on pistols that specifically said about the L-35, "Warning, do not attempt to disassemble without guidance & a full toolkit!". Why would they have that warning given how simple & easy the disassembly is & why might they have got the idea that it was difficult?
@a.c.m37426 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing this video. I’ve wanted one of these for quite a long time
@percyvdwesthuysen8363Ай бұрын
Thanks, I ran across a Husqvarna this weekend in Grahamstown South Africa
@JerryEricsson6 жыл бұрын
Another reason I kick myself, back in the 80's you could get the Swedish guns for a song, but I just figured they were a knock off of the Luger and passed on them. I have owned both the bolt gun and the semi-auto rifles from Sweden at one time or another, both were of the highest quality.
@ben501st6 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly the accelerator was to help with operation in cold weather where ammo supposedly would generate lower slide velocities.
@mottee4 жыл бұрын
I suppose the problem is inherent with designs having a combination of a relatively light bolt and heavy barrel+extension. It's difficult to get the bolt to have enough kinetic energy to cycle the gun. It's much less of a problem with a light barrel and heavy bolt/slide, like in 1911 or HP35. History shows that the latter design was the better path to follow.
@Blueswailer6 жыл бұрын
The neighbour of my childhood home had one of these back in the day though I can't remember the model number. I only got to fondle it and not shoot, bah. They said 6 years is too young. Coincidentally he kept it atop his brick fireplace in a strongbox.
@SabiJD3 ай бұрын
For anyone who's curious, the Lahti has a really great mod version in Fallout 4, including on Xbox. It includes quite period accurate sights, and a few different stock variants. It can also be finished - per section - in many combinations. The mod author really put a lot of effort in. I think the mod description mentions "forgotten weapons", albeit in lower case, so I strongly assume they watched this video for additional research.
@lukerickert52036 жыл бұрын
Aimo Lahti was clearly a great engineer, to design and a produce a functional hand gun with so few iterations is impressive.
@Itapirkanmaa26 жыл бұрын
He was not a formal engineer at all, he only had a short army gunsmith education. He was essentially self-thought. The Americans tried to buy him to come over to the US in the 1930s, but State of Finland responded to this by making sure his designs got realized domestically and that Lahti was paid pretty well. Later in life Lahti's problems mounted: his abrasive character, perhaps an inferiority complex stemming from his poor formal education, his lack of will to cooperate, and his increasing drinking problem.
@jonathanhorne650310 ай бұрын
I’ve only seen and fired one sample. I think it was made in Sweden and marked Husqvarna. It felt very much like a Luger and was a pleasure to use. It was my friends carry pistol during the Korean War.
@jimcarr55044 жыл бұрын
Paul Scarlata wrote an excellent article on Lahti pistols, which was published in "Military Surplus 2014." Regarding the M/40 he states, "Type IV pistols had receivers made from high-quality steel by Carl Gustaf in the 1960s and were stronger than the earlier production. They also lacked 'Husqvarna' markings." Mention is also made of the 1955 adoption of a 9mm cartridge (sk ptr 39B), which featured a 106-grain bullet at 1,375 fps. When problems with cracked receivers developed from the use of this ammo, guns were recalled and rebuilt with Type IV Carl Gustaf receivers. A very interesting series of pistols.
@gardenerofthemisguided24966 жыл бұрын
The disassembly is very practical for a Jet Li maneuver. Fun fact: It was the Finns who taught the Shaolin monks so don't annoy them!!
@meeeplo6 жыл бұрын
Mannerheim actually teached the 13th Dalai-lama to shoot a pistol which I find interesting
@gardenerofthemisguided24966 жыл бұрын
The mystical "Browning revolver"? Probably engraved with passages from Bardo Thödol, haha! Well, since we're talking about it, would it have been an FN M1900 or 1903? Because history tells that he showed the Dalai Lama the quick reloading of a seven cartridges browning revolver. Or maybe it was a Swedish Nagant M1887 and not a Browning at all. It is also credible and it would follow this reloading story. Or just a translation error.
@mysss296 жыл бұрын
Where does that anecdote come from?
@coolsenjoyer4 жыл бұрын
@@gardenerofthemisguided2496 I've also seen reference to it in a paper about the history of Finland's police armaments. Apparently the people who wrote about the stuff in the 1920's thought revolver was synonym for pistol so FN 1900 got called Browning revolver.
@ZGryphon4 жыл бұрын
@@coolsenjoyer You see that a lot in detective fiction of the period as well, especially British detective novels (and European ones in UK-made English translations). Often the context will leave no doubt that an automatic is being discussed; sometimes the phrase "automatic revolver" even gets used, and it's obvious they're not talking about a Webley-Fosbery. :)
@UliMuliko5 жыл бұрын
We finnish really like your channel! GJ
@walterthomas45562 жыл бұрын
In my youth I had one of the swedish ones which was marked p40. It had a thin ring trigger guard I was told it was a police issue. It had a bad habit of splitting brass on ejection. Scared me bad enough I sold the pistol. I probably put overpowered ammo in it. But other than that it was highly accurate and a joy to shoot. It fit my hand incredibly comfortably but so does a Luger. At the same time I had to mark one Ruger which 46 years later I still have and shoot it all I'm. I love anything with that grip angle.
@AtholAnderson6 жыл бұрын
Considering the Finn's mindset of 'The Soviets are our biggest threat so lets use weapons that use their ammo', I find it a bit surprising they didn't use a copy of the TT-33 as their service pistol.
@juhai70486 жыл бұрын
The development of domestic versions was started way before the TT-33 and there was a good supply of other pistols as well so there was no real need to copy a Soviet pistol. Also, pistols were not used that much either way, so the ammunition supply for them was not a real problem. Actually, having a 9x19 Luger pistol made much more sense since most of the ammo in that caliber was distributed to be used with the SMGs, so all the pistols could be supplied from the same stock. Finns did use captured Soviet pistols, but usually they were (and mostly still are) "off the books" and were used by their actual captors. Thus, without any official record, they would not be supplied by the armed forces.
@Kromaatikse6 жыл бұрын
And the KP-31 could put one heck of a lot of that hot-loaded 9mm downrange. No exaggeration to suggest the KP-31 is the main reason Finland still exists.
@TheLolman999880fr6 жыл бұрын
I could feel all the sisu coming out of this video. Very cool and good.
@cspacehippie35326 жыл бұрын
Since you're left-handed and I'm left-handed as well I would love to see a video on the times and weapons that gave you the worst trouble and that you actually liked as being a left-hander
@kurtbergh6 жыл бұрын
Torilla on jo melko lämmintä.
@JiiHooMan6 жыл бұрын
Tuon simaa
@Blueswailer6 жыл бұрын
Mie voin tuoda tippaleivät.
@toolthoughts6 жыл бұрын
jotkut vitsit eivät vanhene, vaikka syytä olisi
@Taistelukalkkuna6 жыл бұрын
stereomike111, pysyy ja paranoo, niinku Valioviili.
@TheZusler6 жыл бұрын
Tori mainittu suomessa tavataan
@neroxen_6 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful display of pistols.
@mistermanji6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing this video! I have always wanted to know more about these pistols.
@nicklasodh87386 жыл бұрын
The M40 was issued to Swedish reserve officers, and in the 80s they were all recalled because people used the 39B cartridge (for the M45 SMG) and cracked them. They were replaced by the Glock 17, that swallows 39B with ease :)
@bpomowe2242 жыл бұрын
Should be pointed out the pistol m/40 was officially approved to use the patron m/39B, and not neglect by shooters .
@Kumimono6 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I read about troops smuggling "lahti-pistols" back from the front. I always thought they meant "pistols for butchering", Finland still being very much an agrarian society, and "lahti" meaning butchering. (Also means "bay"...) It took surprisingly long for it to click, oh, Lahti-pistols...
@HandleMyBallsYouTube6 жыл бұрын
Yeah our guys pocketed a lot of pistols, many of them were taken from the enemy.
@jasondavis8085 жыл бұрын
>Lahtaus >Lahti Learn the difference.
@dongilleo97434 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the reason for the low production numbers for Lahti pistols was due to the wartime conditions in Finland. Finland had an incredibly high percentage of it's population serving in the military or directly supporting it. Before the war, Finland was a predominantly agrarian based economy, with limited industry. Once the war started, there probably wasn't a lot of extra resources, skilled craftsmen, and time to spend on making pistols, when there were so many other priorities. At one point, the Finnish army had to demobilize part of it's forces, so men could go home to work their farms and such. Finland was greatly dependent on shipments of grain and military supplies to keep it's economy going. I know the Finnish army captured large numbers of weapons from the Soviets during the Winter War(1939-40) and then turned around and used them against the Soviets in the Continuation War(1941-44). Perhaps there were enough captured pistols to go around for the limited number of people who needed or wanted one, that production of the Lahti was never considered a priority. Most troops would rather have a rifle or SMG for better firepower and effectiveness.
@Ethnarches6 жыл бұрын
Yay, I've been waiting for this one. Thanks Ian!
@ristoalanko92816 жыл бұрын
The main reason for slide failures was the heavy use of hot loaded submachine gun ammo during and after WW II. The accelerator axis pin created a weak spot on early slides, some slides show "stretch marks" on the sides of the coupling hump, softer material.
@OldManEsteban5 жыл бұрын
never have i been happier than hearing more about Finland making weapons
@rilledulu6 жыл бұрын
Excellent!.. You Sir are the first and only I support on patreon..you are worth it..
@warwolf7153 жыл бұрын
Me "Dad can we get a Luger?" Dad "We have a Luger at home" *_The Luger at home_*
@tomipontinen11676 жыл бұрын
Ian. I wish to thank you for this particular review (and for correcting me at Varusteleka's Grand Opening that you indeed had already made a review about it). P.S: Thank you for signing my .30 cal. ammo box!
@yosh9216 жыл бұрын
i do not know if you know him, but "The Mighty Jingles" mentioned Forgotten Weapons and Inrange TV in his 'Mingles with Jingles' episode today! Maybe that brings over some new subscribers for you guys! :D
@SuperLaplander6 жыл бұрын
Very good episode. Thanks for sharing this. Best regards from Sweden.
@nunozach5 ай бұрын
Depending on which series of a Swedish Lahti you have- you may have the stepped front sight and the smooth barrel(without the lug)
@ThrillaWhale9 ай бұрын
I can’t believe only 4 Lahtis later this little boy would be firing 20mm 🥲
@TotalRookie_LV6 жыл бұрын
Identical internally? I've heard Swedish M40 doesn't have bolt accelerator, which makes slider is more sturdy, but might also make gun less reliable with weaker ammo ir when dirty.
@Zajuts1496 жыл бұрын
Got a bit curious when you said the Swedes sold the Husqvarna to Norway and Denmark, but a quick Google search of the Norwegian police troops in Sweden during WWII came up with pictures of Police troops with local militia men at Falstad POW camp in 1945 were one of the officers is clearly wearing a holstered Husqvarna.
@CHEECHMUN5 жыл бұрын
Love watching your history lessons!!!
@gabrielroydes32186 жыл бұрын
At about minute 13 you accidentally said l39 instead of l35. Otherwise, awesome video: I always love looking at early automatic pistols, or at least relatively early in this case.
@alanvonify6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian
@Tomikos9956 жыл бұрын
Beautiful gun
@GreatgoatonFire6 жыл бұрын
Ian sounds like he is in a real hurry when he tries to say Husqvarna.
@SNOUPS46 жыл бұрын
More parallelepipedic than trapezoidal around 5:48 :)
@sergeiokatieff10605 жыл бұрын
Thank you, excellent video.
@JerryEricsson5 жыл бұрын
I have always regretted not buying one of those when the Swedish ones hit the market at a cheep price back in the late 70's Shotgun News was full of adds for them, but I always had something better to do with my gun money back then. Now the money is gone but the desire remains, thus is the story of my life I guess.
@ZGryphon6 жыл бұрын
Cool! I have one of these that's half early commercial L-35 (frame and bolt, still matching, interestingly the serial number is very slightly _less_ than 6800) and half Swedish m/40 (barrel and upper). I'm guessing somebody blew up the original upper at some point and a Swedish one was easier to get hold of to replace it. Seems to work fine, although based on behavior I've seen in Swedes and Finns online, its hybrid nature presumably means it hates its own guts and spends a lot of time sniping at itself on social media. :)
@spacewater74 жыл бұрын
Wonder what a collaboration video between Forgotten Weapons or In Range and Beyond the Press channel or Hydraulic Press channel would like.
@ForgottenWeapons4 жыл бұрын
It would look like a Finnish metal festival. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5LEdIh9q9Kjd9k
@WardenWolf4 жыл бұрын
Russian soldier asking another about their captured pistol: "Lahti?" "Da!"
@MilsurpMikeChannel6 жыл бұрын
I have a Husqvarna that I am going to take out in the near future. Thanks for the video.
@ferrumlynx19146 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for years!
@gregtheredneck17156 жыл бұрын
I remember when these were a fairly common item at gun shows and regret never purchasing one.
@NerdGlassGamingPA6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian ! I used to watch your channel all the time then I forgot about it . There is a reason to it because KZbin want to make channels like yours invisibie... I was just watching a video of The Mighty Jingles and he was talking about you. I am sorry you lost monitization. Good luck on your journey.
@davidnicholas75163 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine bought one of these at a discount, years ago, because the gun store owner thought this was a cheap copy of a Luger. He said he went back later and the guy just looked daggers at him, so he left. True story....
@AdurianJ4 жыл бұрын
Sweden had already selected the Walter P38 as it's service pistol m/39 but then the war broke out and only limited numbers got into service as all of Walter's production where directed towards German needs. The plan was for Walter to have delivered 3000 guns in the first two years after witch Swedish license production would have gotten underway.
@SNOUPS46 жыл бұрын
Do the latest finnish gun have Valmet or VKT written on their grip?
@ReijoRitari6 жыл бұрын
VKT is defunct and Valmet isn't making weapons anymore. And as far as I know Sako is only finnish company to manufacture weapons.
@JoroJugga6 жыл бұрын
You mean the Valmet on this video? Well this one 16:35 seems to have Valmet on top but grips say VKT.
@SNOUPS46 жыл бұрын
Thanks JoroJugga, this is indeed what I meant!
@Unknown13556 жыл бұрын
Latest assault rifle, RK 95 TP, does have "SAKO" marking on it's receiver. The grip is mostly covered with plastic with grip-enhancing pattern. FDF uses FN, Glock and Walthers as sidearms. FN replaced L-35, so no Finnish designed sidearms were developed after L-35. Not sure about other domestic weapons like TKiv 85 or 2000. Never paid that much attention to markings, even when handling them.
@akukorhonen51825 жыл бұрын
Valmet and VKT is kinda similiar thing, as it is state owned facilty and became the same. Valmet stands for "Valtion, metallitehtaat" (state metall factories) and VKT for "Valtion Kivääri Tehtaat" (state rifle factories)., VLT (state aircraft factory), etc There were also other businesses that went the same way, some live like Valmet tractors, nowadays branded Valtra and under Agco int.
@sithlord71824 жыл бұрын
Came here from the fallout 4 mod on the nexus. Could you actually make this full auto? You said there was issues, I'm surprised how that fluke wasn't looked further into for later developing one with full auto capabilities if it was possible. An extended mag, better sights, maybe a different length barrel and that stock would make for a neat package. I could see it used as a pdw for tank crews or engineers on the field during the second world war.
@SabiJD3 ай бұрын
Three years later, and I'm here from the Fallout 4 mod as well, but on Xbox. I'm sure I watched it years ago, but it was nice to see this after trying it out in the game. The modder really put a lot of effort into it and its features. I don't think the mod Lahti locks on empty, which is a shame, but I assume it's an issue with altering the default animation. Oh, and I'm half Finnish, so it's nice to use a Finnish firearm in F4, and that it's such a good implementation.
@theblindsniper91302 жыл бұрын
That operating system is genius
@ssneg3 жыл бұрын
In no way a criticism but knowing how much Ian likes correctly pronouncing foreign words... The H in Lahti isn't silent. It is sounds exactly like H in Hulk or Honey. LA-kh-tee.
@kimisdaman2 жыл бұрын
It's often said that Finnish Lahtis are better fit and finished than Swedish pistols, but other than the very early Finnish L-35s, there is evidence of simplifying cost-cutting, inside and out, and the two guns appear very similar.
@solinvictus20184 жыл бұрын
I think Norway also had some of these, as you can buy the blued magazines from surplus shops here, for around $9 each. Might be imported from Sweden, as surplus, though
@lt.torstenson3 жыл бұрын
Norway and Denmark secretly trained police forces in Sweden at the end of the war to step in as the German Army capitulated. Those forces were equipped with Swedish standard m40 Husqvarna Pistols (license built L35). Sweden also exported aprox 500 unmarked Husqvarna m40 pistols to the Norwegian resistance, Hjemmefronten. Those 500 Pistols were sold by the company Skandiastål AB, that actually was run by C-byrån (C-office) that was the Swedish secret intelligence during the war.
@laylandd901210 ай бұрын
you mentioned the weakness in the Finnish model requiring relatively mild loads. I have a very unique Huskvarna Lahti pistol which as it was one of several that were never assembled and were apparently found in the hardness testing lab unassembled. A friend recently purchased several of these and assembled them. The serial numbers had to be hand stamped on the frames and not all the markings were completed as these test weapons never went through the assembly process. I would hate to fire it with commercial ammunition with hotter loads and have a barrel weakend. Any thoughts? Thanks.
@rainolipponen5 ай бұрын
Hyvä ja tarkka , pari kertaa ampunu 👌
@kojekiheibi67973 жыл бұрын
Turners in Salinas has a lahti with holster and accessories.
@seaboardspastic6 жыл бұрын
Make a video on the Bergmann MG15 NA (I know there are still bits)
@grumpyboomer616 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to learn if the Swedish versions had the same issues with regard to cracks developing from using hotter loads.
@dr.vanilla90175 жыл бұрын
They actually had more issues because of the lower quality steel.
@kirkwest6654 Жыл бұрын
I have a different looking stock for the lahti and I tried putting it on a buddy's m40 and it wouldn't go all the way on without some fitting BTW we didn't get it one all the way we didn't want to force it but it appears to be made for it 100% but just don't know enough about them
@marvindebot32643 жыл бұрын
Fireplace guy, for when only the best (collection) will do.
@Mrgunsngear6 жыл бұрын
great info
@hansolavrkkennordland95342 жыл бұрын
I understand that you love Finnland.
@canidsong6 жыл бұрын
I just saw the vice gun vloggers segment. They weren't atrocious but they didn't on balance seem to be very fair with the edit. Ian and Carl: you planning anything to address it?
@rastenborgАй бұрын
Der Uberfall Der Sowiet Union auf Finland 1939. Borgmann Berlin 43. I located a copy in the Helsinki library. As soon as Der underzeaboten arrives I'll go visit.
@floydunderhill86116 жыл бұрын
Ian, you got a BIG shout out todays Mingles with Jingles, from The Mighty Jingles! He is a gamer/history buff.
@bwolfe25146 жыл бұрын
Why does that locking lug remind me of Tron Recognizer?