Mendoza 1934: Mexico's Domestic LMG

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@gustavgans5156
@gustavgans5156 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say that, but I cannot agree on your way of storing the bipod. The circular cutouts as well as the second pin for the reinforcing bar make it look like the bipod should go forward over the barrel. This way one doesn't scratch the wood either... Otherwise an awesome video of a never heard of weapon
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you are correct, and I'm rather annoyed that I didn't realize that while filming.
@jacksonballa13
@jacksonballa13 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons this is why you’re one of the best on the platform
@davidbowman2716
@davidbowman2716 2 жыл бұрын
There's one at the MUEFA (Museo del Ejercito y Fuerza Aerea) and is not far from here. I should go and check it. Entrance is free. The Mexican Army Platoon (Pelotón) was organized as follows. 2 Squads (Escuadras) 11 men. 1 Sargento Primero o Segundo 1st or 2nd Stg. Platoon Commander. 2 Cabos Corporals 8 Soldados Soldiers 1 corporal and 4 soldiers where the Escuadra de Fusileros Granaderos and 1 corporal and 4 soldiers where the Escuadra del Fusil Ametralladora. Then 3 platoons made a Sección under the command of a 2nd Lieutenant (Subteniente). 3 Secciones made a Company (Compañía) and 3 infantry companies plus one of Support weapons (Armas de apoyo. Heavy MG Mortars ATW and Flamme throwers) made a Batallón. With the introduction of the FN FAL The organization of the Platoon change and the Escuadra del Fusil Ametrallador disappear.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons class act.
@kiwi_comanche
@kiwi_comanche 2 жыл бұрын
@@lairdcummings9092 absolutely!!
@maximilianovelasco6710
@maximilianovelasco6710 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact. Rafael Mendoza is my great great grandfather. He is the father of my grandmother's father. I learned about him barely a couple of years ago. This is amazing to see.
@johnnythundertherevenger945
@johnnythundertherevenger945 Жыл бұрын
Tremendo honor
@AlejandroKar98k
@AlejandroKar98k Жыл бұрын
Fuente: creeme we
@obedmorton5246
@obedmorton5246 10 ай бұрын
Si si claro amiguito y yo también soy pariente suyo, es mas todos los seguidores en este canal, hasta los no Mexicanos son bisnietos de el.
@iamtheliquor7729
@iamtheliquor7729 6 ай бұрын
@@obedmorton5246te m@“aste loco jajaja 🤙🏼
@dwi2921
@dwi2921 2 жыл бұрын
The Mexican arms designers (Mendoza, Mondragon, Obergon etc) are very much under appreciated.
@AJadedLizard
@AJadedLizard 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they and Nambu from Japan don't really get the respect they deserve. There are really interesting weapons coming from both.
@FoxtrotFleet
@FoxtrotFleet 2 жыл бұрын
The Obregon pistol is a very interesting design, I really should pick up a rotating barrel pistol someday.
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 2 жыл бұрын
It's a Mexican Bren?
@zynetik
@zynetik 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the FX-05. We were sued by H&K and won!
@davidbowman2716
@davidbowman2716 2 жыл бұрын
Mendoza still exists and makes smgs for the police and airguns.
@Scourgething
@Scourgething 2 жыл бұрын
Let's take a moment to appreciate the *bloop* noise the op-rod made when it was removed at 10:15.
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. A good sliding fit.
@R77ification
@R77ification 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if it got a good giggle out of mexican soldiers back in the day
@reedkellner6447
@reedkellner6447 2 жыл бұрын
Ian: "Action cycles..." Mendoza: *Bloop!
@lancelittleton3269
@lancelittleton3269 2 жыл бұрын
Love me a good bloop
@adamkilby2273
@adamkilby2273 2 жыл бұрын
Not quite at that point in the video yet. I'm excited to hear a good bloop.
@boingkster
@boingkster 2 жыл бұрын
Can't sleep, and Ian drops another gem for something I never knew existed. Legendary.
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to be never ending, and I hope it is!
@CeylonMondegreen
@CeylonMondegreen 2 жыл бұрын
He sees you when you're sleeping. He know when you're awake.
@boingkster
@boingkster 2 жыл бұрын
@@CeylonMondegreen He's giving awesome facts about firearms so quiet down for goodness sake! Yout better watch close, you better listen in, you better pay attention I'm telling you kid! Gun Jesus released a new vid!
@kaiquebustamante3091
@kaiquebustamante3091 2 жыл бұрын
Gun nut asmr lol
@raulflores6078
@raulflores6078 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Ian. Im from Mexico and i've been watching your videos for 5 years now. I've learned a lot!!
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 2 жыл бұрын
For the era it came from, this was a fairly nice piece of work. The reversible firing pin was a good touch.
@davidvarnes7708
@davidvarnes7708 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Like, the bipod could use a redesign, and the magazine/feed system could use some work. But the receiver, the gas system, even the barrel change system were all really solid designs that looked like they would be both high performance and durable.
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms 2 жыл бұрын
The reversible pin came as a standard feature in other Mendoza designs such as the RM2 and the HM3 submachine gun. The prefix RM applies to the patterns designed by Rafael Mendoza. After he passed away in 1965, his son Hector took over the Productos Mendoza factory and labeled the products as HM (Hector Mendoza)
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidvarnes7708 For 1934 It was simple to make too. The BAR, BREN, MG34 and Type99 (and both the BREN and MG1934 had been selected in 1938, the Type99 in 1939) had more complex machining. Among the most used LMGs of the time, Only the DP28 could be considered simpler to manufacture. But generally, though I like it, it seems like a promising prototype put in production before all the elements had been figured out throughly. Very good and simple operating mechanism, barrel change mechanism, general ergonomy, controls, gas settings… But three sets of lugs? That bipod (I’ve seen better in WWI)… no handle to grab a scorching hot barrel… And that magazine… It could have easily been so MUCH better.
@rubiconnn
@rubiconnn 2 жыл бұрын
The machining and finish looks really nice too. It reminds me of the Thompson.
@Edenium01
@Edenium01 2 жыл бұрын
”We must make our own weapons and ammunition, if we do not want our internal affairs to be decided by those who provide them to us.” Venustiano Carranza, Mexico's president (1917-1920)
@xxvaltielxx1789
@xxvaltielxx1789 2 жыл бұрын
He must be rolling in his grave rn
@anzaca1
@anzaca1 2 жыл бұрын
That doesn't even make sense.
@xxvaltielxx1789
@xxvaltielxx1789 2 жыл бұрын
@@anzaca1 look at all the 3rd world countries that are funded by 1st world countries and tell me it ain't true
@severerisk1581
@severerisk1581 2 жыл бұрын
@@anzaca1 it does in the context of the time. A country that just came out of a very bloody revolution with a long conflict ridden colonial past with limited development within their borders is just asking for meddling and external influence being exerted on the country if their defense and other industries are outsourced to more developed and industrialized countries adjacent to them. Mexico had even tried to build their own domestically designed tanks around this time.
@chapiit08
@chapiit08 2 жыл бұрын
@@anzaca1 Learn Mexican history, particularly late 1800'S AND EARLY 1900'S and you will realize that it makes a lot of sense.
@joseestevezhernandez558
@joseestevezhernandez558 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a wild crossover between a Bren, a Hotchkiss and a BAR... coupled with the best possible name for this gun... MEENDOOOZAAAAAA!!!
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk 2 жыл бұрын
_Just do one thing for me…get…Mendoza…_ Glad I’m not the only one to have immediately thought of that sketch.
@J.DeLaPoer
@J.DeLaPoer 2 жыл бұрын
I see Bren and M14E2 myself, at least in aesthetics.
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought was of Mendoza from The Mysterious Cities of Gold, which might not make sense unless you grew up in the UK in the 1980s.
@dylans6924
@dylans6924 2 жыл бұрын
Was literally about to write that name in block capitals but you got there first lol
@eddietat95
@eddietat95 2 жыл бұрын
I don't wanna hear it, McBain. That... that CANNON of yours is against regulation! In this department, we go by the book.
@Trollo_Swaggins
@Trollo_Swaggins 2 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve seen, domestically designed Mexican rifles are few, but tend to be surprisingly good
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын
The Mondragon was also a very nice piece of engineering.
@edwinalexis593
@edwinalexis593 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, but our goverment tryed to kill the weapons industry here cuz being "pacifist", I'm happy that at least the FX05 was made recently for our troops, and got pretty big support.
@floydvaughn9666
@floydvaughn9666 2 жыл бұрын
Racist.
@30cal23
@30cal23 2 жыл бұрын
makes me wonder if they werent overrun with corruption and cartels if they'd be one of the largest and best arms producers in the world
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын
@@30cal23 inter-personal feuding and bureaucratic politics probably did more harm. There's no lack of engineering brilliance in Mexico, and cartels weren't an issue in the early 20th century, but bureaucrats are eternal, and everywhere.
@jamietie
@jamietie 2 жыл бұрын
Based on his design choices, I'm left with the impression that Mendoza was the kind of engineer who wore both a belt and suspenders
@sp4cepigz174
@sp4cepigz174 2 жыл бұрын
Those Mexican fire arms are so beautiful and rare. Oh man that coat of arms on the firearm brings a tear to my eye. Never seen a firearm so beautiful
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of intricate machining in this weapon, probably fairly expensive to make. Lots of thoughtful bits and safety measures, and a straightforward design, I'd expect it was popular with the troops.
@darkoflight4938
@darkoflight4938 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed and a lot of clever engineering, like the takedown stuff and the dual ended firing pin. But it also is a let down like the bipod and the (at first glance clever) magazine retaining system. It all seems prone to the grit and dirt of war. Fascinating to say the least!
@LUR1FAX
@LUR1FAX 2 жыл бұрын
If only they had given it a more conventional magazine and magazine release mechanism, plus a better bipod, then it could have been an excellent LMG. From what I've been able to gather just by Googling (don't take my word as gospel) the gun weighed just under 9kg, which is a fair bit lighter than the Bren gun which weighed almost as much as the MG 34 and 42.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын
@@LUR1FAX if it has seen significant sales outside Mexico, market feedback would have very likely resulted in both those changes. Another change I think would have happened is moving the bipod mount to the stock, making replacement barrels cheaper and lighter.
@LUR1FAX
@LUR1FAX 2 жыл бұрын
@@lairdcummings9092 Yeah, that makes sense. Plus if you mount the bipod to the barrel, your zero can change when you use the bipod. Applying upwards pressure to the barrel, even a heavy barrel, can cause your shots to go higher than what you zeroed the gun for. Alternatively the bipod could perhaps have been attached to the gas tube. You could maybe modify the stock a bit if there's not enough of the gas tube exposed to attach the bipod. There are possibilities.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын
@@LUR1FAX "what might have been." No older phrase, in any language, anywhere.
@marioacevedo5077
@marioacevedo5077 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. In the 70s TV show Cannon, in one episode he looked at bullet holes in the tail of a plane suspected of smuggling over the US-Mexican border and declared them to be from a 7mm Mendoza.
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. You have an excellent memory. I remember the show, but not the episode. Seem to recall he carried a 38 Chiefs Special.
@marioacevedo5077
@marioacevedo5077 2 жыл бұрын
@@828enigma6 Back then I knew about the 7mm Mendoza so I guess that's why the detail stuck to me. That, and how could Cannon tell the difference in bullet holes made by a 7mm or a 30-06?
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 2 жыл бұрын
@@marioacevedo5077 May he had calibrated eyeballs, to 0.62mm.
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@828enigma6 The human eye can see a difference of 0.003", which is 0.0762mm. Good eyes and practice can halve that. Of course the TV show was BS, but it could have been possible.
@Immafraid
@Immafraid 2 жыл бұрын
That has got to be the first light machine gun with a full wood stock that I've ever seen. Nice video.
@JohnSmith-yv6eq
@JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 жыл бұрын
How much lighter it could have been with a stamped sheet steel one?
@anzaca1
@anzaca1 2 жыл бұрын
Um.. the BAR?
@TammoKorsai
@TammoKorsai 2 жыл бұрын
The Swiss LMG25 also has a full wood stock similar to the Mendoza.
@outforlunch1258
@outforlunch1258 2 жыл бұрын
BREN
@northernranger7730
@northernranger7730 2 жыл бұрын
@@anzaca1 not a full wood stock. It’s two pieces of furniture not a monolithic stock
@PXCharon
@PXCharon 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed with the design of the bolt/carrier assembly on this.
@carlinglin7289
@carlinglin7289 2 жыл бұрын
Basically, a very sound design. He might have gone overboard with the extra locking lugs. Two solid lugs and maybe one safety lug set back on the bolt should have sufficed and required less machining.
@DynamicDurge
@DynamicDurge 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like the idea of a double sided firing pin/ spare firing pin. Super unnecessary but still cool
@damonthomas8955
@damonthomas8955 2 жыл бұрын
@@DynamicDurge it's only unnecessary until you actually need it.
@DynamicDurge
@DynamicDurge 2 жыл бұрын
@@damonthomas8955 true, thats why I like it - 2 is 1 and 1 is none. On the other hand though, if your firing pin breaks in combat, I kinda doubt that someone can field strip this down and swap the firing pin in a timely manner - at that point the gun is out of the fight until you can steal a moment to fix it.
@damonthomas8955
@damonthomas8955 2 жыл бұрын
@@DynamicDurge that would be an interesting video, seeing how fast Ian could get the gun from firing condition to firing condition by spinning the pin around.
@Swanknot
@Swanknot 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the mention of the Royal Belgian Military Museum in Brussels. That place is fantastic. Easily accessed, well laid out, and containing lots of rare uniforms and weapons. I never miss a chance to visit when we are in Brussels and always see something I missed on previous visits.
@TheGM-20XX
@TheGM-20XX 2 жыл бұрын
_"MENDOOOOOZA!!!!"_ - McBain (as played by Rainier Wolfcastle)
@lisbon1492
@lisbon1492 2 жыл бұрын
I was curious if anyone else would go there.
@WinterMadness
@WinterMadness 2 жыл бұрын
Dammit, you beat me to it.
@aaronmcgoldrick2439
@aaronmcgoldrick2439 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@CMDBob
@CMDBob 2 жыл бұрын
That was my literal first thought when I saw this.
@Albert-lj5jb
@Albert-lj5jb 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not disappointing
@comiketiger
@comiketiger 2 жыл бұрын
I just love the 7x57 mauser. I've shot one since high school almost 50 years. A great deer rifle Great video and presentation Love your ability to say, " ooops, I was wrong" ! You're a good man Ian. God bless all here.
@Jreb1865
@Jreb1865 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite cartridges as well...
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 2 жыл бұрын
I really like that. The action is beautifully simple. A new bipod and the eventual feed system upgrade and that gun could have been competitive until at least the 60s or 70s.
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms 2 жыл бұрын
The Mendoza incorporated the Madsen Bowden tripod and the Chapultepec tripod for an anti-aircraft role. The gun was fitted with 20 and 30 cartridge magazines and kept in service until the late 1960s before being replaced by the US BAR and the Belgian FN MAG.
@bigboi4269
@bigboi4269 2 жыл бұрын
@@MexicanMilitaryFirearms neat
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 2 жыл бұрын
@@MexicanMilitaryFirearms Than you for the continued and elaborated history lesson!
@evandotterer4365
@evandotterer4365 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching Ian’s channel for a few years and Mexico 🇲🇽 has a kick ass firearms history a lot unique stuff. Wish they participated in more wars..
@F4Wildcat
@F4Wildcat 2 жыл бұрын
10:15 HOLY JESUS that BLOOP is MUSIC to my ears
@kodiakkeith
@kodiakkeith 2 жыл бұрын
The 7mm Mauser was pretty much standard in Mexico, Central and South America. The late, great Ian Hogg, British firearms historian, once said all European and American field tests of cartridges came down to 6.5 and 7mm as superior, but was always overruled by some political wank.
@kamilhernandez2543
@kamilhernandez2543 2 жыл бұрын
Even the US trialed 7mm mausers captured from the Spanish American War of 1898
@Jreb1865
@Jreb1865 2 жыл бұрын
7mm Mauser is an excellent cartridge. Soft recoil and very accurate. I've had several rifles in 7mm and loved firing them...
@jessewalby6631
@jessewalby6631 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the 7mm and 6.5 mauser cartridges are amazingly pleasant to shoot and pretty flat trajectory.
@isaac6705
@isaac6705 2 жыл бұрын
That bolt and firing pin design is so elegant. I love it.
@rogerdildeau7507
@rogerdildeau7507 2 жыл бұрын
I was always intrigued by the Mendoza machine gun from pictures of it in various books. This is the first time I have ever seen a demonstration of how it functions. This is a very well done video. I am even more impressed by the Mendoza now that I see some of the clever if complicated features. Thank you for a very interesting and informative video.
@Trashcansam123
@Trashcansam123 2 жыл бұрын
I like your last name
@DB-yj3qc
@DB-yj3qc 2 жыл бұрын
Quite a piece of equipment, I'd like to have one of those in my collection.
@ripvanwinkle2002
@ripvanwinkle2002 2 жыл бұрын
gotta say it looks good in a wood and blued steel sort of way id have been happy to be issued it.
@EvanDickersonM81
@EvanDickersonM81 2 жыл бұрын
Right up until you have to deal with all 70 of it's magazines
@LUR1FAX
@LUR1FAX 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvanDickersonM81 And at least 5 guys to carry all of the magazines.
@alexdemoya2119
@alexdemoya2119 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a contender for a WW2 best-of LMG if it had better mags and a better bipod. Centerline aiming on a top loader, and solid controls.
@kintustis
@kintustis 2 жыл бұрын
So like everything?
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 2 жыл бұрын
@@kintustis Mag and bipod is everything?
@isthatafamas
@isthatafamas 2 жыл бұрын
I would take a Chauchat over this heap of shit. In no way is this even close to being “one of the best” LMGs of WW2
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 2 жыл бұрын
For 1934 It was simple to make too. The BAR, BREN, MG34 and Type99 (and both the BREN and MG1934 had been selected in 1938, the Type99 in 1939) had more complex machining. Among the most used LMGs of the time, Only the DP28 could be considered simpler to manufacture. But generally, though I like it, it seems like a promising prototype put in production before all the elements had been figured out throughly. Very good and simple operating mechanism, barrel change mechanism, general ergonomy, controls, gas settings… But three sets of lugs (it's a nightmare to match bolts and receivers)? That bipod (I’ve seen better in WWI)… no handle to grab a scorching hot barrel… And that magazine… It could have easily been so MUCH better.
@Jurflip2
@Jurflip2 Жыл бұрын
I would really love to see a Forgotten Weapons episode on the Mendoza RM2 machine gun. That seems to have been a really interesting design.
@erikh8
@erikh8 2 жыл бұрын
been wanting to see a video on this LMG for years now! thank you for finally making it happen! sooooooo cool!
@zombielocogamer2599
@zombielocogamer2599 2 жыл бұрын
I wiss someday you can make a video on a FX 05, i think we the mexicans used to have a very promising future in arms development but we where way to dependent in foreign designs that we couldn't see how great designers we used to have, and we don't make credit enough to our own arms designers. Mondragon a true national hero that we don't read about in the books
@jerry7663
@jerry7663 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always awed by the craftsmanship of firearms from this era. Beautiful machine work on every cut. Well done.
@jamesabernethy7896
@jamesabernethy7896 2 жыл бұрын
I save a lot of your videos as workout videos but watched this one now. I'm not particularly mechanically minded buy your videos are so well made that anyone can enjoy them. Even though I love all your videos, my favourite are the ones with a deep story behind the gun. My favourites are still the Pancor Jackhammer, the PTRD and the 'Green meanie.' Stunning work as always.
@damonthomas8955
@damonthomas8955 2 жыл бұрын
What a cool piece of gear, the built-in spare firing pin is an especially nifty little idea.
@fr4ct1v09
@fr4ct1v09 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice gun, great thing with the magazine offset. It has all advantages of top mounting and no need to offset the sights. If only they improve magazine, improve bipod and put it on lower assembly (to make quick change barrels cheaper and easier to replace) it would be the best prewar LMG, forget BAR or Bren.
@george2113
@george2113 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing a rare weapon that appears in a book I'm currently reading: Havana by Stephen Hunter.
@mark-koba
@mark-koba 2 жыл бұрын
The push forward to lock in magazine design makes me think that during operation, it would ensure that the magazing would never come loose due to its inertia reseating it under recoil and by having it so firmly seated and not rattling around it helps mitigate misfeeds. Would be interesting to watch a 3D cutaway of the feeding cycle to see how smoothly the rounds enter the chamber.
@giuliannochiarelli305
@giuliannochiarelli305 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the weapon that pirate uses in gravity rainbow. Very cool to see a video about ir
@timthompson468
@timthompson468 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen those top loading magazines in many historical films. I always wondered how the sights worked with those. I never saw one close enough to notice the magazine was offset from the center of the barrel. I wonder how many weapons used that design. It seems strange, but I guess gravity is working with you in that mode.
@maxpower4781
@maxpower4781 2 жыл бұрын
Madsen was the first to be adopted by a military a lot where loosely modeled after but at least the Madsen had sights going straight down the bore and an offset mag.
@In-Midnight-Clad
@In-Midnight-Clad 2 жыл бұрын
Most guns with top-mounted magazines have to offset the sights because the magazine obscures the centerline. If you search for a picture of a Bren LMG, you can see that the front sight tower puts the sights up and to the left of the gun which lines up with the rear sights.
@juancenobio2713
@juancenobio2713 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see more Mexican Arms crazy genuine weapons that just come out of know where
@davidLlanos-g7l
@davidLlanos-g7l Жыл бұрын
es gratificante ver como por fin la espera llegara a su fin y la historia de esta arma de origen mexicano se haga publica en youtube
@lucianene7741
@lucianene7741 Жыл бұрын
A mix of good and bad features. The rotating bolt mechanism seems pretty solid and reliable, and the 8-lug lock is all but bulletproof. The bipod could have been better, but the magazine and feed system are a real Achilles' heel. If they went with a conventional double-stack, double-feed magazine, this thing could have ran circles around the likes of ZB-26 or Bren. The weight of just 14 lbs is quite remarkable too.
@J.DeLaPoer
@J.DeLaPoer 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting aesthetics on this thing. Like the illicit love-child of an M14E2 and a Bren gun.
@xXxKAMIKAZExXx
@xXxKAMIKAZExXx 2 жыл бұрын
Another weapon I've wanted you to cover. Awesome work as usual!
@Friedbrain11
@Friedbrain11 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting features. With some design changes and a change to .308, this would be a very nice machine gun.
@atlasfugged9044
@atlasfugged9044 2 жыл бұрын
This has some of the more interesting ideas i've seen that actually have some merit. The idea of not having a magazine catch in the traditional sense for a top fed box fed lmg is actually pretty intriguing. If they ditched the weird feed lips for something more traditional then made sure the mag wouldnt unlock backwards under recoil would make for a really really quick mag change for the assistant gunner/loader. Also the bipod mechanism while a little silly is also an example of the designers thinking a little outside of the box. Yeah its a questionable implementation on this gun, but with some time and tweaking it may have been the precursor to something would have taken for granted 100 years later. Interesting gun, interesting ideas that I dont totally hate and can see value in, with a bit more testing and refinement needed.
@leadjunkie5674
@leadjunkie5674 2 жыл бұрын
Other than magazine and bipod, a very nice design on this. I particularly like the bolt carrier and firing pin setup
@SayNoToDemocide1
@SayNoToDemocide1 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like for you to look at the Mendoza HM-3 submachine gun. It's a little-known Mexican submachine gun, and information about it on the internet is seemingly scarce.
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms 2 жыл бұрын
HM3 is a derivate product from the RM3. Currently, Mendoza keeps manufacturing a portfolio of Submachine guns for the Mexican Navy and Law enforcement agencies. I also covered the Mendoza SMGs in the book, including pictures of prototypes.
@nopc9728
@nopc9728 2 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming for it's era (Trench Warfare) Was the reason for the top magazine feed system.
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms 2 жыл бұрын
Ian, thanks for the opportunity to share some information listed in my book. Regards. Luis Eduardo Gonzalez.
@A-G-F-
@A-G-F- Жыл бұрын
I will buy it on amazon
@zen2857
@zen2857 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from México, Thanks for this review
@BreezyLoveMachine
@BreezyLoveMachine 2 жыл бұрын
MENDOZAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TBRP99
@TBRP99 2 жыл бұрын
Just do one thing for me... get Mendoza
@joshuabessire9169
@joshuabessire9169 2 жыл бұрын
Swank-y
@BootedVulture
@BootedVulture 2 жыл бұрын
Knew this would be here.
@samovarsa2640
@samovarsa2640 2 жыл бұрын
To human misery!
@vincentmueller3717
@vincentmueller3717 Жыл бұрын
This interesting lmg made a Hollywood appearance in the classic film "The Black Scorpion", about 1hr in to the entertainment.
@diegoferreiro9478
@diegoferreiro9478 2 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken some of these guns arrived to Spain during the Civil War. However Ian says that actual production started in 1939 (13:39) making a bit difficult (if not impossible) for the Mexicans to supply the Republicans at that late stage of the war (by then only a tiny fraction of the Mediterranean coast was open to the Republic and the Nationalist fleet, despite its tiny size was pretty effective at blockading sea traffic), so there are three options here: 1) I'm mistaken. (I will check my sources) 2) Production started earlier than mentioned. 3) The Mendozas sent to Spain were from a pre-production batch. This could be a plausible explanation, in any case the quantity should be very small. EDIT; I was not mistaken, according to the unvaluable reference book 'Armas de la Guerra Civil' by José María Manrique García and Lucas Molina Franco (Esfera de los Libros) the Nationalist Army edited various catalogs of captured weapons during the war (i.e. the 1937 Kursaal exhibition of 'captured war materials to the enemy') or immediatly after the war (like the 1939 catalog of the Central Region Recovery Service which listed no less than 18 different LMGs); among these there was a 'Mendoza Model 14' (sic) in 7 mm x 57 Mauser of Mexican origin. No quantity is given but this catalog proves that at least a bunch of them made their way into the Spanish Civil War. There is even a drawing with the 18 LMGs and no.16 is unmistakebly a Mendoza 34. BTW, the book lists as far as 28 different types of LMGs only in the Republican side!
@DtWolfwood
@DtWolfwood 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the firing pin mechanism. Very clever.
@jackspade5316
@jackspade5316 2 жыл бұрын
I can kinda see what they were going for. That wedge progressively aligns the barrel as you push it in. The charging handle and ejection port are on the left side because that's what you're going to see if you're a righty and you've got the thing shouldered and on a bipod. The mag lock makes sense if you imagine you're loading and unloading with the pistol grip in your right hand, and was probably intended to be at least a little faster than the traditional nose in, rock back style with a mag catch. (Don't know how well that worked in practice, but it was an interesting idea.) The offset magwell and asymmetrical magazine leave the sights centered and unobstructed. These weren't bad ideas in 1934. The bipod is unforgiveable, though. And the anti-aircraft sight isn't great, either. The gas port is neat, but probably too many options for field use. And I'm scratching my head at why they didn't just use a tangent rear sight, although it still seems functional.
@meantrain1914
@meantrain1914 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian, that was a treat. Now to find out more about it.
@BrianRRenfro
@BrianRRenfro 2 жыл бұрын
The mag retention system must work fine in the real world because it would be really easy to add a catch to the backside that would hold it forward and locked, even as a retrofit. Seeing has how it was in service for so long, and they never did, I assume it stays put well enough. Recoil would keep it seated but I would be worried about while I was just lugging it around though!
@psp1921tsmg
@psp1921tsmg 2 жыл бұрын
Barrel and bipod and gas regulator look like they were borrowed from the 1926 Hotchkiss
@MrDK0010
@MrDK0010 2 жыл бұрын
I love topfed magazine LMGs.
@mrjockt
@mrjockt 2 жыл бұрын
Gonzalez’s book is also available in both hardback and paperback from Amazon now.
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms 2 жыл бұрын
I made the material available both in Spanish & English (Kindle, Kindle Unlimited, Soft & Hardcover). Mendoza´s factory provided me with access to their collection and unpublished photos. The book covers earlier Mendoza´s designs during the Mexican revolution, such as the 37 mm cannon, a double-barrelled, belt-fed, manual-operated machine gun, and the Mexico rifle. Also, the submachine guns built by Mendoza.
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms 2 жыл бұрын
The book covers the international sales and the Mendoza gun appearance in movies
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog 2 жыл бұрын
Besides a few quirks already mentioned, it looks excellent.
@gregclaflin9026
@gregclaflin9026 Жыл бұрын
If you watch the 1950's Scifi movie "The Black Scorpion" with Richard Demmings and Marla Corday, they show this same weapon in the cavern scene.
@danijuggernaut
@danijuggernaut 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I like your channel, this is history and for sure educative also for young gunsmith apprentices.
@Leonsunshine
@Leonsunshine 2 жыл бұрын
Ian! Look for this one. I’ll like to see your thoughts. FX-05 Xiuhcoatl. It’s a Mexican assault rifle.
@vsarge8762
@vsarge8762 2 жыл бұрын
This was as always a really good and interesting episode of a TRUE Forgotten Weapon from the XX Century. Thanks ian so much
@ZacharySkan
@ZacharySkan 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever this thing is I need it. It's the most beautiful lmg I've ever seen. Shit I think I finally found love
@brandons9398
@brandons9398 2 жыл бұрын
As usual I learned something about a weapon I have never heard of. Great video
@JunkyardBashSteve
@JunkyardBashSteve 2 жыл бұрын
That's really neat piece! And it looks pretty good too
@graham1034
@graham1034 2 жыл бұрын
I love how because the designer, getting screwed out of compensation for the gun, made bank on the magazines instead. 70 mags per gun is crazy. It's also cool that the offset top-mounted magazine allows for the user to still use centered sights. And that is the strangest firing pin I've ever seen.
@alterpanda8988
@alterpanda8988 2 жыл бұрын
that elevation system on the rear sight is very cool
@Phoenix-MX1
@Phoenix-MX1 2 жыл бұрын
I see Mexico and Forgotten Weapons and I click. It's that simple.
@vonsopas
@vonsopas 2 жыл бұрын
Curious fact: Mendoza currently are more known in Mexico for their airsoft/sporting rifles (which because weapons laws in Mexico limit only to .22 Long Rifle (I think)) and are sold as far as I remember in supermarkets. Me and my buddies used to shoot in the backyard of one of my pals with steel munition, air rifles back when I was a teenager.
@A-G-F-
@A-G-F- Жыл бұрын
They dont make airsoft rifles, they make airguns tho
@SuperRandomNinja1
@SuperRandomNinja1 2 жыл бұрын
I like it definitely should be talked about more
@keenanmcbreen7073
@keenanmcbreen7073 2 жыл бұрын
Double ended firing pin seems like a very solid concept for a MG.
@J69-y2d
@J69-y2d 2 жыл бұрын
The black scorpion 1957 stop motion animation monster movie features Mendoza lmg
@some_Russian_dude
@some_Russian_dude 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say that's an awesome looking lmg
@ElvisRocking1
@ElvisRocking1 2 жыл бұрын
Mendoza company still makes airrifles to this day, as well as many other things im nit aware of.
@DymondzTrucking1962
@DymondzTrucking1962 2 жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting light machine gun I will have to get the ebook.
@jamespettit1792
@jamespettit1792 2 жыл бұрын
fun guns and Amazing beers,
@JimmySailor
@JimmySailor 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t think of another LMG that field strips forward. Reminds me of the STEN or M3. An excellent design, with the possible exception of the magazines. Another oddity is that it looks like the bolt locks into the receiver instead of the barrel. This is inherited from the Lewis undoubtedly, along with its op-rod and firing pin arrangement. One thing I really like is the locking wedge. Compared to something like the SG43 which requires a tool to get the wedge out this design has a lot of leverage. I do wonder, does the wedge design effects headspace? The bolt locks into the receiver and the receiver is locked to the barrel via the wedge. Maybe the wedge compensates for headspace differences automatically by it’s nature?
@A-G-F-
@A-G-F- Жыл бұрын
For a design coming from a guy who wasnt a conventional engineer, its surprisingly well made, i can see it has madsen and nambu ADN, proabably a mix mash of LMGs that saw usage in the Mexican Revolution
@nucleargrizzly1776
@nucleargrizzly1776 2 жыл бұрын
Another arm I had no idea existed. Thanks Ian.
@KurtAustin2448
@KurtAustin2448 2 жыл бұрын
The design of the firing pin, bolt and op rod all strike me as being very clever. Sure the bipod is lackluster, but it's not alone in that regard for the time period.
@cynthiakoehne7004
@cynthiakoehne7004 2 жыл бұрын
love that bolt and the firing pin design, the only drawback is the mag/bipod, I can see it with a sling as a heavy assault/support rifle, ditch the AA sights and put a flip over scope on the receiver, love to see it fired, looks comfy!
@TomXPorter
@TomXPorter 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. My only knowledge of this LMG is its mention in the spectacular period novel “Havana” by Stephen Hunter, wielded by the sadistic secret policeman nicknamed “Ojos Bellos”
@immediatefall7552
@immediatefall7552 2 жыл бұрын
It also appears in movie The Black Scorpion
@IsaacOtto
@IsaacOtto 9 ай бұрын
4:00 Clearly Mendoza got a sneaky sort of revenge in the form of an uncouth little "bon mot" stamped on each and every one of the gun's 70 magazines...
@Anonymous-ks8el
@Anonymous-ks8el 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more guns or designers from Mexico, Central & South America, even if they're country specific variations of foreign guns I enjoy their history and unique specifics as much as actual gun
@rggl3438
@rggl3438 2 жыл бұрын
Mendoza went to produce some really nice compressed air rifles and pistols for serious target competition, I believe he also made some cap percussion pistols that fired .22 bb's and anyone could buy them at most major Mexican retail stores...they must me someone somewhere that still have them
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms
@MexicanMilitaryFirearms 2 жыл бұрын
Influenced by the civil unrest experienced during the late 1960s, the Mexican President, Luis Echeverría, ordered the modification of Constitutional article # 10 that regulated the right to bear arms and issued a decree in 1971 to restrict the manufacturing, commercialization, and ownership of firearms in Mexico. Productos Mendoza oriented its business towards producing and selling air rifles and office supplies. In 1997, Productos Mendoza resumed producing and selling firearms for the military and police forces.
@whitequasar4686
@whitequasar4686 2 жыл бұрын
You should do some more videos on Mexican fire arms and history of countries who aren't in the mainstream of history
@camryhunt8673
@camryhunt8673 2 жыл бұрын
When Ian was holding the firing pin, it reminded me of Gamora's switchblade.
@gervgal2535
@gervgal2535 2 жыл бұрын
Never Knew That my country had developed such beautiful pieces of weaponry in the early years of the republica, and now its following that forgotten path of developing new military technology again. Its cool to know this pieces of arte.
@DanielMendoza-vz6ss
@DanielMendoza-vz6ss 2 жыл бұрын
Need me one of these. It's calling my name.
@Law0086
@Law0086 Жыл бұрын
Traveled to Belgium to make a video on a Mexican gun to mostly be viewed in America. Talk about breaking the barriers.
@zendell37
@zendell37 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin has been recommending the Obregon pistol video from 5 years ago. I keep getting excited that there was another one, but alas not.
@mattrenner9215
@mattrenner9215 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many airplanes have been shot down by the Mendoza 1934. Was surprised it had a anti aircraft sight produced for it.
@johndaniels1197
@johndaniels1197 2 жыл бұрын
Did anybody else replay the "boop" sound at 10:16 several times, when the recoil spring assembly was pulled out of the tube?
@dinsdalemontypiranha4349
@dinsdalemontypiranha4349 2 жыл бұрын
I really did enjoy this one Ian. Thanks. Your descriptions are always so good, but in spite of that I just can't figure out how the shell casings make it all of the way back to the ejection port. It looks like the ejection port is way back behind the bolt, but I guess that I am just missing something. Also, I have not seen your video on the Nambu LMG.
@abkal6771
@abkal6771 2 жыл бұрын
I hope to see a fx-05 being review in the future.
@nguyenminhle8694
@nguyenminhle8694 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like when a game developer decided to be creative using references from a Bren and a Thompson
@wierdalien1
@wierdalien1 2 жыл бұрын
And lewis
@nguyenminhle8694
@nguyenminhle8694 2 жыл бұрын
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