Ross MkII: Sorry, We'll Get it Right This Time

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@tomt810
@tomt810 5 жыл бұрын
What if the screw that keeps the other screws from becoming unscrewed becomes unscrewed!?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
Then you're screwed.
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 5 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons Screwy questions deserve screwy answers. :)
@cheerfulpessimist952
@cheerfulpessimist952 5 жыл бұрын
Put another screw in to keep that screw from unscrewing!
@clothar23
@clothar23 5 жыл бұрын
@@cheerfulpessimist952 Screwception
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 5 жыл бұрын
In case like that where the screw was to be permanatley fixed, my Farther always used to put a drop of glue on the thread. I have read that slivers of razor blade were tapped under sight mounts to make them tight.
@georgeross4644
@georgeross4644 5 жыл бұрын
As a Ross employed by the Canadian government, I can confirm that we still haven't quite got it right, even after all those years!
@deeacosta2734
@deeacosta2734 3 жыл бұрын
Any relation to Rick Ross?
@Siskiyous6
@Siskiyous6 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it is Govt after all....
@Cr33pTheCr33p3r
@Cr33pTheCr33p3r 2 жыл бұрын
@@Siskiyous6 It's CANADIAN government. Ie, much worse than usual government.
@ellisross4544
@ellisross4544 5 ай бұрын
Ah another Ross in the wild, I love when this happens
@briarus1000
@briarus1000 5 жыл бұрын
sir Charles Ross hears Francophile is being critical of his rifle "rises from the grave"
@RockIslandAuctionCompany
@RockIslandAuctionCompany 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these types of videos detailing the differences between similar models.
@issackliener3065
@issackliener3065 5 жыл бұрын
When is your next classic guns auction?
@RockIslandAuctionCompany
@RockIslandAuctionCompany 5 жыл бұрын
@@issackliener3065 Little auction, November. Big auction, December.
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium 5 жыл бұрын
It's something very valuable about what Ian does, because a lot of these details are often either hard to visualize/understand through just text, or often times simply not floating around the internet (etc) at all.
@Sedan57Chevy
@Sedan57Chevy 5 жыл бұрын
Normally I'm jealous of the guns you feature, but... that's a really nice stair case in the background...
@roanferguson8873
@roanferguson8873 5 жыл бұрын
Ian, those two inches don't matter. It's how you use the 28
@stevegable2707
@stevegable2707 5 жыл бұрын
thats not what she said ! lol can not believe I was 1st to come out with it !
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
Soldiers eyesight must have been much better back then. Being able to shoot 2200 yards with precision iron sights is an outstanding feat.
@exploatores
@exploatores 5 жыл бұрын
If you got a company that shoots, some may hit a barnwall or the company infront of the barn.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
@@exploatores I would have trouble seeing the barn.
@CardinalAsh
@CardinalAsh 5 жыл бұрын
@@shawnr771 That's why you let artillery and skirmishers do the spotting. The skirmishers will tell the artillery how close they got to the barn. The artillery will deal with the company in front of the barn.
@IceWolfLoki
@IceWolfLoki 5 жыл бұрын
It may have been some higher ups attempt at psychology. If we mark it out to 2200 yards the troops will be confident in their rifles ability because why would you mark it out to 2200 yards if it couldn't do that. Also at that range it may have been intended to be aimed at a formation of troops rather than an individual, much like medieval archery.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
@@CardinalAsh The barn is camo for a concrete reinforced underground bunker.
@justinrobert2770
@justinrobert2770 5 жыл бұрын
This person's house must be wallpapered in Ross rifles and parts.
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen guns with backup iron sights for optics before, but having backup iron sights for iron sights is a new one.
@Havok0159
@Havok0159 5 жыл бұрын
Yo' dawg. I heard you liked iron sights so I put backup iron sights for your iron sights.
@chekovsgunman
@chekovsgunman 5 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert: they didn’t get it right this time.
@ssreeser95
@ssreeser95 5 жыл бұрын
Ah damn, guess this is what I get for reading the comments first.
@lucasduque8289
@lucasduque8289 5 жыл бұрын
>:(
@TheCheat_1337
@TheCheat_1337 5 жыл бұрын
Title: Sorry, We'll Get it Right This Time Narrator: They didn't.
@FirstLast_Nba
@FirstLast_Nba 5 жыл бұрын
Noooooooo really!!!!
@elijahaitaok8624
@elijahaitaok8624 5 жыл бұрын
Well it was done right by Mk.II**
@craigpeterman27
@craigpeterman27 5 жыл бұрын
I acquired a US stamped MK 2 Ross Rifle years back in honor of my late Uncle that was drafted on first day of the World War One Draft. He Basic trained with one and . Scored another that had been sporterized recently. Now in military configuration. Both shoot well.
@mattdickson2
@mattdickson2 5 жыл бұрын
Craig Peterman i have no doubt that they can drill absolute holes in anything.
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 5 жыл бұрын
Ah! You rescued an old rifle from the clutches of sporterization? I applaud you!
@cheesenoodles8316
@cheesenoodles8316 5 жыл бұрын
So many changes... I'm seeing stars. I like the stories of Mr Ross.
@johnkaminsky1657
@johnkaminsky1657 5 жыл бұрын
Great video on a very confusing topic. Sir Sam Hughes defended the weapon right up to the very end often calling it "the finest firearm ever built". His steadfast defence of the flawed gun, which ultimately cost lives, ended up being a major factor in his dramatic fall from grace. The C-broad arrow you allude to at 10:50 is the standard government property mark in Canada from about that time up until 1949; it doesn't indicate that the rifle was sold out of service. The Brits would indicate that something was sold out of service by counter stamping an opposing arrow ( -x- ). I haven't seen anything like that with the C-broad arrow. Great video, as always. I thoroughly enjoy your series!
@dndboy13
@dndboy13 5 жыл бұрын
FILMING: PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS STAIRWELL
@pneps
@pneps 3 жыл бұрын
The Ross Mk2** was mostly produced as a civilian rifle for target shooting. A smaller batch were produced for the Canadian military rifle team. I have one of each I have acquired over the years along with the US marked Ross training rifles.
@lambsauce5312
@lambsauce5312 5 жыл бұрын
y'all notice how gun jesus got some muscles all of the sudden
@diamondflaw
@diamondflaw 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta be ready for that Kasarda drill.
@wilsonlaidlaw
@wilsonlaidlaw 5 жыл бұрын
We had a few Ross rifles in our school CCF armoury in the 1960’s. They had not been used for years but the armourer who came over from the Redford barracks in Edinburgh once a month to do any work needed, was very happy to re-commission one for me. It was a Mk.2 but I cannot recall, if I ever knew, how many stars. It shot as well as our rather worn SMLE No.4 rifles. I became rather taken with straight pull rifles and later bought my own Mannlicher M1895 carbine in 8 x 56R - not a very wise buy, as sporting ammunition was very hard to come by.
@nolanolivier6791
@nolanolivier6791 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever else can be said about them, they are handsome guns...
@brentkeller3826
@brentkeller3826 5 жыл бұрын
13:10 gun banner response: "It has two rear sights, that makes it DOUBLE DEADLY!"
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 5 жыл бұрын
its like just stamping stars everywhere is a bad idea for revision control
@diamondflaw
@diamondflaw 5 жыл бұрын
Everything's Fine**
@evancollins7146
@evancollins7146 5 жыл бұрын
So that's what those holes in the back of the receiver are for! I have a sporterized MkII, I assumed the holes were for an aftermarket peep sight.
@F4Wildcat
@F4Wildcat 5 жыл бұрын
Next video" Ross MK III: Darn, i mean, for real this time"
@DeathbyDusk
@DeathbyDusk 5 жыл бұрын
Followed by Ross MK IV: We actually fixed the problems! Wait where are you going?
@LtCmdrGordon
@LtCmdrGordon 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, long time viewer, first time writer. Thank you for the deep dive into Canadian history.
@larsschroter6994
@larsschroter6994 5 жыл бұрын
props for calling it "Lange" and not lounge Visier.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like dude who is responsible for Caliphs cocktails and light music. And less prone trying to usurp the throne.
@RJEvans44
@RJEvans44 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this story, I've been dreaming of this exploration since I first stumbled across your content.
@meansartin
@meansartin 5 жыл бұрын
It actually sounds like Ross used the military contract as a means of developing commercial technology for free when you look at the II**
@InquisitorJack
@InquisitorJack 5 жыл бұрын
Hoping to get a Ross MkII at RIA next month, thank you so much for the informative video!
@Krieger2214
@Krieger2214 5 жыл бұрын
3 sights for maximum precision, bonus points if you can get a scope on too
@CanadianTimeLord
@CanadianTimeLord 5 жыл бұрын
6:48 Sorry, Ian, but that's "After they got to 999 ZED" 😊 🇨🇦
@cosmicatrophy4648
@cosmicatrophy4648 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@justinrobert2770
@justinrobert2770 5 жыл бұрын
Settle down there Dr. Krieger.
@peteranderson037
@peteranderson037 5 жыл бұрын
Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 5 жыл бұрын
Continued on Next Stock of course! ;-)
@Naterade1959
@Naterade1959 3 ай бұрын
now yuo zee...
@vigab9601
@vigab9601 5 жыл бұрын
I own a 5 star; now I know what all the numbers and letters on the stock mean. Thanks!
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian .
@sv5813
@sv5813 5 жыл бұрын
Well done explanation. My Grandfather (RCFA) would have carried one of the longer barrel MKII variants.
@OKimcallinit
@OKimcallinit 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I can finally identify my gunshow find!
@mattdirks7896
@mattdirks7896 5 жыл бұрын
Somebody at the Canadian government- how about taking some time to consolidate and get a specific model that works just right? Ross- No.
@Paperweight64
@Paperweight64 4 жыл бұрын
American government-(same question) Ross-Yes!
@ZeroBoostBuick
@ZeroBoostBuick 5 жыл бұрын
Great series. Thanks Ian. I enjoy your videos. I like this rifle.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see the difference in sight "philosophy" from these very complex, super adjustable sights as on the Ross MkII.... to the later Carcano fixed rear sight! I know what I think would be more effective in the hands of a "Hostilities Only" soldier!
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 5 жыл бұрын
Backup iron sights for your iron sights! Brilliant!
@devincook2736
@devincook2736 5 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the different receiver and barrel threads are economy. I can cut fine threads way faster than coarse on a manual lathe because of the depth of cut being shallower. The receiver fine threads are also easy to tap vs the acme thread that would be easier to thread mill than tap or single point cut. The coarse barrel threads would probably be milled rather than turned.
@argylemcgoogin3298
@argylemcgoogin3298 5 жыл бұрын
Canada used to be a great country.
@northernnailbanger3103
@northernnailbanger3103 5 жыл бұрын
Ian another great video. I feel like Im attending firearms university whenever Im watching. About the “out of service stamp” : The C with an arrow in it. It looks a lot like the stamp used the mark the rifles used by the Pacific coast militia rangers PCMR during WW II And along with Winchester 94s and I believe Marlins, they were issued the Ross rifle.
@johnkaminsky1657
@johnkaminsky1657 5 жыл бұрын
The C-broad arrow was the official government property stamp of Canada from just prior to WW1 up to 1949. All government property (military in particular) was branded with it.
@Dafmeister1978
@Dafmeister1978 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone ever took a Mk 2**, set both rear sights to the same range and checked to see if they lined up...
@prd6617
@prd6617 5 жыл бұрын
i bet someone do that already, i mean if someone (or 2) can do stupid things like The French Finger Trap on MAS-36 Bayonet (kzbin.info/www/bejne/enKWh6aDqcp0rs0) then someone do smart thing can be happen too
@clothar23
@clothar23 5 жыл бұрын
Now I wanna do that but something tells me no. Considering the rear most rear sight is set higher than the forward rear sight...forward rear sight there's a combination of words I never thought I would say.
@devincook2736
@devincook2736 5 жыл бұрын
@@clothar23 it may be an optical illusion. 100 yards on the rear sight should be 100 on the forward sight. Same angle, different radius. If it's not the same, it's not the same.
@clothar23
@clothar23 5 жыл бұрын
@@devincook2736 You may have a point. Nonetheless I guess it would take getting my hands on the long barrel Ross and in Canada those are rare despite their Canadian manufacture.
@devincook2736
@devincook2736 5 жыл бұрын
@@clothar23 no, it wouldn't. Pick up a flat top AR-15 with a long picatinny handguard and put two rear sights on it.
@tomt810
@tomt810 5 жыл бұрын
All these old guns with sights out past 1000-2000 meters... sounds really ambitious to me
@craigharness3156
@craigharness3156 5 жыл бұрын
The plan would be all 50 of you shoot at your target and scare it lol
@tomt810
@tomt810 5 жыл бұрын
@@craigharness3156 lol I guess so!
@HistoryNut60
@HistoryNut60 5 жыл бұрын
@@craigharness3156The answer lies in understanding the time period. True "rapid fire guns"(what we now call machine guns) were new and the use of them not well understood. Most Infantry units didn't have any as they were relegated to the Artillery. To obtain 'volume of fire' on a distant target such as a formation of Infantry or Battery of Artillery, an Infantry unit would form in line, the officer calling out a range setting and the troops would fire one round in volley. This is also why most rifles had a magazine cut-off. No one aimed at an individual soldier but aimed at the mass of a target. It was a different time.
@craigharness3156
@craigharness3156 5 жыл бұрын
HistoryNut60 yeah it was a different time it would be interesting how much of an area they could suppress with volley fire. It’s also ironic in a time frame when there was a legitimate concern of ammunition scarcity they would attempt to shoot at anything that far.
@jameshealy4594
@jameshealy4594 5 жыл бұрын
@@craigharness3156 That's what I always think. Countries are like "We're not sure we should have a magazine in case soldiers waste ammo" and also "Sight it to infinity, if we shoot enough bullets someone might get lucky"
@unclesullivan2889
@unclesullivan2889 5 жыл бұрын
I foresee Forgotten Ross, the successor to Forgotten Bergmann
@KaDaJxClonE
@KaDaJxClonE 5 жыл бұрын
Those are some nice stairs.
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Remington never made the rolling block in 303?
@AKS-74U
@AKS-74U 5 жыл бұрын
10/10 would buy one, especially since the 8x50 Lebel versions are so rare.
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 5 жыл бұрын
@@AKS-74U suppose it be easy enough to re barrel or rebore a shot out 7mm one
@AKS-74U
@AKS-74U 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnstacy7902 given the size of the rim on the .303 case, I think you'd have to modify the 7mm extractor heavily, probably even a new one. But yeah a rebore and cut the chamber face for the rim and you are 90% there
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 5 жыл бұрын
@@AKS-74U I have a RB in 30/30 that was rebarreled. It's a nice shooter
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly because anyone that was interested in a .303 British single shot rifle or carbine could get a Martini-Enfield.
@OTE_TheMissile
@OTE_TheMissile 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know how many individual rifles Ian's had access to in the making of this video series. I'd be worried about misplacing/mixing up parts by this point...
@courierdog1941
@courierdog1941 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the reasons I like your channel you dig really deep into the history and bring examples to verify your findings. I have an interesting question, can you find a paper trail for the rifle (I am Told Ross) as used by Francis Pegahmagabow MM & two bars. My Grand father fought along side of him at the Ypres front at St Julien when the Canadians relieved the French Algerian troops who were virtually wiped out during e first German gas attack, the Canadian were accompanied by Indigenous, Singh and Muslim plus Gurkha troops. My grandfather said they were all fine troops who you could trust with your life, one note, he said you had better lace your boots up per British Standards or you would not wake up if the Gurkhas past through at night. Keep up the great work. Note 2 you are in this article bring more facts to light about the Ross that my Grandfather covered but only in passing and the actual rifles as use in the Ypres, St Julien front.
@asimseth1927
@asimseth1927 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I suggest u do a video on Ross Sporter Rifles especially the 1905 and 1910 model and their different chambering
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 5 жыл бұрын
The AR-15 pattern and the Ross are both of note for being military and civilian patterns. The Ross was a civvie rifle adapted for military service and so has all the shortfalls of a civvie rifle. The AR-15 was developed as part of a military-focused development, the civvie adaptations come with all the military benefits. It's a common theme that civvie rifles don't make great military rifles (obviously there are exceptions) but military rifles are effective when turned to civvie weapons.
@bwayne40004
@bwayne40004 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the collector to allow us to view.
@RussianBlue4S
@RussianBlue4S 5 жыл бұрын
It's also possible that he was experimenting with 280 Ross or its predecessors at this time and found that extremely coarse thread to be a major stress point that wasn't holding up under the higher loads. The fine threads should be both stronger and less of a crack propagation point. Without a doubt a lot of the features in Ross's rifles come from his sporting rifles/experiments and it would not be terribly surprising to see yet another carryover added into the already large pile.
@RobertQuinlan
@RobertQuinlan 5 жыл бұрын
The coarse thread plus set screw made me think of a takedown sporter, but I have no idea if Ross actually made any takedown models.
@RussianBlue4S
@RussianBlue4S 5 жыл бұрын
@@RobertQuinlan I am not aware of any takedowns that were actually made, although there was one depicted in a Clint Eastwood movie that was not actually a takedown.
@ncmarmstrong442
@ncmarmstrong442 3 жыл бұрын
Quite enjoyed your video and I've learned a lot about Mk I and Mk II Ross Rifles! My only question is regarding the marking on the Mk II 5* that you identify at 10:50 as indicating that the rifle was sold out of service. The mark looks very much like a Broad Arrow with a large "C" around it which was the Canadian Broad Arrow indicating it was government property.
@Siskiyous6
@Siskiyous6 3 жыл бұрын
I was given a copy of the original printing this week.
@ngilbert100
@ngilbert100 5 жыл бұрын
On the original pattern their is a knurled ring in front of the rear sight. What is this and why? With the knurled pattern It looks like something to turn or adjust
@ngilbert100
@ngilbert100 5 жыл бұрын
Actually it looks like it’s present on both
@markbecht1420
@markbecht1420 5 жыл бұрын
Probably goes with the 'quick change' barrel threads instead of a spanner flat
@ngilbert100
@ngilbert100 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Becht ah it’s for the quick change barrel cool
@davidatchison9245
@davidatchison9245 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the stars denoted how strong the maple syrup smell is.
@TorquilBletchleySmythe
@TorquilBletchleySmythe 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings Ian, another great video! Seeing as we're looking at straight pulls, see if you can get hold of one of Ron Owen's "Taipan" Mosin Nagant conversions. Built after the Australian gun restrictions came in, it was to be the replacement for the SKS and SKK semi-autos favoured by pest eradication shooters. Straight pulls were considered legal, whereas semi-autos were not. An interesting design if you can find one.
@dobypilgrim6160
@dobypilgrim6160 5 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the Mk 3 episode. Always wanted a Ross of any iteration, and never have seen one in the wild.
@mannequinfukr
@mannequinfukr 5 жыл бұрын
Im hoping he could do a video on a 22lr ross. I still wish i jumped on the one i saw on gunbroker
@cooliobob1274
@cooliobob1274 5 жыл бұрын
I'm now on a quest to aquire a Ross rifle with two rear sights.
@rizaradri316
@rizaradri316 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the MKIII Ross rifle
@hugebartlett1884
@hugebartlett1884 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking at the various inscriptions on the stock,and trying to find the "kill" score.
@Anmatgreen
@Anmatgreen 2 жыл бұрын
Ross was making so many different variants one might think he was actually in charge of the German tank design team.
@lcdubs7847
@lcdubs7847 4 жыл бұрын
Great history lessons! Thanks!
@TorquilBletchleySmythe
@TorquilBletchleySmythe 5 жыл бұрын
According to my research, the Ross Rifle is the reason Canadians are so polite and apologetic.
@jamesluke7377
@jamesluke7377 5 жыл бұрын
What was the Ross Mk2 chambered in for the US issued rifles? Was it still in British .303 or was it chambered for 30-06?
@evancollins7146
@evancollins7146 5 жыл бұрын
They were left in .303
@mattdickson2
@mattdickson2 5 жыл бұрын
left in .303 because they were generally not range trainers just drill trainers. US had .22cal range trainers at the time.
@spencermarenger4028
@spencermarenger4028 5 жыл бұрын
Ross week: tis a great day for canada and therefore the rest of the world
@Spruce-Bug
@Spruce-Bug 6 ай бұрын
14:00 What is the thread size of the MkII** action threads?
@mathewtuttle8011
@mathewtuttle8011 21 сағат бұрын
What is the purpose of the extra trigger looking latch for in the trigger guard? Can't find info in it anywhere!?
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 5 жыл бұрын
I give this video a 5 star rating.
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 5 жыл бұрын
How many times did you have to watch it to get up to five stars? ;>)
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. 5 lol.
@williamjones2027
@williamjones2027 4 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of knurled wheel next to the sights on the Mark I* and Mark II? It looks like the small knob next to the notch adjusts for windage and the roller coaster adjusts for range.
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 3 жыл бұрын
So do those backup iron sights co-witness?
@danpos1971
@danpos1971 3 жыл бұрын
The broad arrow in the C means it was Canadian issued. I'm certain someone else already said that 1000 times on here.
@craigharness3156
@craigharness3156 5 жыл бұрын
Ian would the development of the Ross rifle be in some way comparable to the development of the AR and AK series of rifles? Took about ten years to get it all right for all them.
@clothar23
@clothar23 5 жыл бұрын
Except the Ak and AR platforms went on to be universally loved and used world wide. Ross got his rifle right...finally...but no one cared by then.
@thawndoo
@thawndoo 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused. Please do another video on something less esoteric like the G11.
@SuperSstealth
@SuperSstealth 5 жыл бұрын
thawndoo he already has a video on the G11
@proteus2103
@proteus2103 5 жыл бұрын
Right?
@LeeThule
@LeeThule 5 жыл бұрын
Luv these Ross rifles
@markoneil6562
@markoneil6562 2 жыл бұрын
So what is the ugly metal block, cut into the stock behind the rear sight?
@jackertl6416
@jackertl6416 5 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking why doesn't forgotten weapons have a Ross Rifle video
@MrPanzerDragoon
@MrPanzerDragoon 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, the stampings on these rifles! It's like CarFax but for guns! lol
@JohnsonLobster
@JohnsonLobster 5 жыл бұрын
You should get a mini dolly for all the shots of the gun you're filming. It is one more thing to pack, but it would make the video look a lot better.
@delsueapplegarth4274
@delsueapplegarth4274 2 жыл бұрын
There is a Ross MKII on a local auction. It looks like it is missing the bolt stop and the safety. Is there a good place to get parts? Thanks
@ФилиппЛыков-д8е
@ФилиппЛыков-д8е 5 жыл бұрын
"Sold out of service" stamping reminds of the hippie pacific sign.
@pappajudas9267
@pappajudas9267 5 жыл бұрын
It reminded me of the British broad arrow mark they stamped one when it was accepted and another pointing at the first when it was sold out of service.
@penumbraenigmatica3252
@penumbraenigmatica3252 5 жыл бұрын
He was wrong about that... the Broadhead C is the Canadian acceptance stamp.
@terrygibson9111
@terrygibson9111 5 жыл бұрын
just in front of the site what is the knurled ring for seems to have numbers on it
@JNF590
@JNF590 5 жыл бұрын
Ian can you Talk about the M1919A6
@Oblithian
@Oblithian 3 жыл бұрын
But... Can you use both rear sights simultaneously?
@timgrungus2234
@timgrungus2234 5 жыл бұрын
Ian we need to find a semi auto conversion of these
@doordieace5high
@doordieace5high 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe see if a Pederson Device will work on one. Lol.
@AtholAnderson
@AtholAnderson 5 жыл бұрын
Here's 2 for you www.forgottenweapons.com/ross-semiauto-prototype-rifle/ www.forgottenweapons.com/the-huot-machine-rifle-a-ross-conversion/
@timgrungus2234
@timgrungus2234 5 жыл бұрын
AtholAnderson hahaha ofc
@timgrungus2234
@timgrungus2234 5 жыл бұрын
AtholAnderson the first one is a new rifle not a conversion but still cool
@pattonorr7572
@pattonorr7572 4 жыл бұрын
Today’s video!
@keithagn
@keithagn 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but as a Canadian I can see how you put "Sorry" in the title...
@Nostradamus_Order33
@Nostradamus_Order33 3 жыл бұрын
Are these available anymore?
@masonhaggerty186
@masonhaggerty186 5 жыл бұрын
Been dying to find a Ross but so hard to find them in the states :(.
@fromagefrizzbizz9377
@fromagefrizzbizz9377 5 жыл бұрын
I've been seeing a couple in Canadian gun shows near Ottawa every year. I bought one - a II***. Great shooting condition once I managed to track down a proper rear sight. Still not sure how accurate this thing is. Not used to the sight configuration yet or anything bigger than .22/.223. Should be good, because the local Ross expert said my specific model won the Bisley 21 years in a row.
@masonhaggerty186
@masonhaggerty186 5 жыл бұрын
@@fromagefrizzbizz9377 I'd import from Canada but I don't think it's possible.
@fromagefrizzbizz9377
@fromagefrizzbizz9377 5 жыл бұрын
@@masonhaggerty186 It is possible, but there's a fair amount of paperwork, and unlikely to be worth while for the relatively low value a Ross will fetch. Few commercial firearms sellers in Canada will do it. The other end is, ironically easier, especially if you use someone like Irunguns to do the legwork. Few Rosses (short of museum grade) will fetch more than $200-400 here. Mine was under $300, missing rear sight (which cost another $140). Maybe Irunguns can do it.
@masonhaggerty186
@masonhaggerty186 5 жыл бұрын
@@fromagefrizzbizz9377 eell how much woukd it cost for them to do the stuff for me ?? I can't imagine irs an easy process or else more people might do it. But I'd want a Ross Mk II** the longer barreled version. Something ill probably never see in the states.
@fromagefrizzbizz9377
@fromagefrizzbizz9377 5 жыл бұрын
@@masonhaggerty186 The II*** are probably fairly common in the US. The US bought thousands of them for training, and apparently the New York State Militia (not National Guard) had them as service weapons until the mid 1950s at least. I don't know how much it would cost. I'd find out from Irunguns how much it would cost. They do US->Canada frequently, and the fees seem reasonable ($100-200) plus shipping. Don't know about the reverse. The II*** seems pretty long barrel to me ;-)
@12chrisdrive
@12chrisdrive 5 жыл бұрын
But what holds the 3rd screw!?
@christophersimmons3719
@christophersimmons3719 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the information. I bought a "sporterized" Ross rifle a couple of years ago and just started looking at it to figure out what to do with it. It is a 1905 Mk3 and looks like it has the US markings as well. unfortunately they are not clear as someone reconditioned the stock. the "sporsterizing" was simply cutting the stock off forward of the middle barrel band. I found a company that produces replica stocks and parts like the front sight hood and the bayonet lug and front band. would it be worth replacing the entire stock or should I just add a front piece in order to keep the original stock?
@randywatson8347
@randywatson8347 5 жыл бұрын
Ok I need to keep my head focussed.
@minuteman4199
@minuteman4199 5 жыл бұрын
Ian, At 10:50, you say that the "Broad Arrow" in the C means it has been sold out of the service. I thought that the C broad arrow, was the equivalent of the British broad arrow and indicated it was government property.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 5 жыл бұрын
The sold out of Service mark was two arrow marks nose to nose making an X . Not all surplus kit at the time had it though.
@danmang923
@danmang923 6 ай бұрын
Why were not most bolt actions straight pull? Isn’t the straight pull quicker to chamber a round??
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 5 жыл бұрын
One dislike so far. *Sir Chales´s ghost punching dislike button furiously*
@kennieminski7080
@kennieminski7080 5 жыл бұрын
What is the knurled nob in front of the sight?
@tfranken1561
@tfranken1561 5 жыл бұрын
I have one of the US purchased rifles. Seems it would mess one up to train with a straight pull then have to use a 1903 or 1917.
@bennettguns3809
@bennettguns3809 4 жыл бұрын
Are the DP marked rifles safe to shoot?
@IceWolfLoki
@IceWolfLoki 5 жыл бұрын
Could the 2* have been intended as a marksman's rifle? Also maybe the 2* development began before the 3* and was the intended improvement with the 3,4 & 5 * being quick fixes or variations based on part supply.
@vrisbrianm4720
@vrisbrianm4720 5 жыл бұрын
17:54 2* were used by the artillery corps
@IceWolfLoki
@IceWolfLoki 5 жыл бұрын
@@vrisbrianm4720 I know that but I'm speculating that this may not have been the original intent and it was just issued to the units that hadn't got new rifles yet.
@vrisbrianm4720
@vrisbrianm4720 5 жыл бұрын
​@@IceWolfLoki Well, British/Canadian military doctrine at the time didn't designate a "marksman's rifle". I think the reason is that since the Mkll 2* has already been superseded by Mklll before WWI, they were instead being relegated to second line or support unit. The 2* long barrel length was also retained in the Mklll.
@matthewl67
@matthewl67 4 жыл бұрын
Ross was a long range shooter and maintained a 1000 yard range at his house and that drove his rifle design
@tritowns
@tritowns 5 жыл бұрын
When did ross develope the 280?
@bennettguns3809
@bennettguns3809 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't one of the Ross rifles have a bolt that could be assembled wrong making it fire out of battery?
@markpro4813
@markpro4813 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the Ross 1910 or MK III. This problem was recognized and remedied. HOWEVER if you do not know how to tell a safe MKIII from a bomb steer clear.
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