Glock 46: A Revolutionary Design Change

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Except for the .22 rimfire Glock 44, all the pistols from the Austrian powerhouse Glock have shared the same fundamental mechanical system. They use the Browning tilting-barrel action, which has been long proven by many companies. With the Glock 46, however, they completely changed, and opted for a short recoil, rotating barrel design. The 46 also includes a couple other unique features for Glock, specifically intended to suit its intended role as a German police sidearm.
In Germany, each state is responsible for selecting and procuring police weapons, but they must follow the technical standards set out by the Federal-level government. The standard Glock models do not meet these requirements, and so Glock had to develop a new model if it wanted to compete for police contracts. Most substantially, pistol disassembly must not require pulling the trigger, as this is one of the most common causes of police NDs (and this goes back at least to the Luger, which got its own police safety modification in the 1920s). The gun must also meet minimum requirements for trigger pull weigh, distance, and total force to fire.
To meet these requirements, the Glock 46 has a longer tigger travel than other Glock models, made possible by slightly reshaping the trigger itself. It also has a novel striker disconnect in the back of the slide, which allows (and requires) the striker to be rendered completely inert for disassembly. In addition, a new disassembly lever requires the magazine to be removed before the slide can come off the gun. Put together, these features make the Glock 46 fully compliant with the Federal German police standards.
The rotating barrel system is not required by any other these Federal standards, and it remains a bit unclear why it was chosen. The action itself is distinct from the disassembly safety system, and either one can be incorporated into a design without the other.
Glock has thus far won one German police contract for the 46; that of Saxon-Anhalt. That agency purchased 8,600 Glock 46 pistols for their approximately 6,000 officers. It is extremely unlikely that we will see these pistol in the US, as Glock sells them only to police agencies and not to the civilian market in Europe or the US.
Thanks to Glock for giving me access to film this pistol at their booth at EnForceTac 2024!
Specific German police trigger pull requirements:
First shot:
Minimum pull weight: 30N / 6.7 lbf
Trigger pull distance 10-15mm / 0.4-0.6 in
Minimum value for “trigger work” (Trigger travel x trigger pull weight): 0.15J / 1.3 in-lb
Subsequent shots:
Minimum pull weight: 20N / 4.5 lbf for all following shots
Minimum reset distance: 4mm / 0.16 in
Minimum trigger travel after reset: 7mm / 0.28 in
Requirements for unlocking the action:
In locked systems, the trigger mechanism must be interrupted before the initiation of the unlocking takes place. The path of the moving weapon parts until the trigger mechanism is separated is allowed not be greater than 75% of the safety path.
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[@gunsnek721]

So basically the one time Glock makes something different it's not for sale

[@AudioGardenSlave123]

Thankfully, cause that's one ugly and stupid design if I've ever seen one. Totally unnecessary 'improvements' just to get a police contract with really dumb stipulations.

[@jongreen5638]

Yea, but it's only different because evidently German police are to poorly trained to not shot themselves or anyone else

[@konstantin.v]

☝️This! 😂

[@jongustavsson5874]

@@AudioGardenSlave123 Police handle guns daily but use them rarely, so reducing the chances of doing something dumb is a valid point.

[@jonathanschubert9052]

The two times. Glock started making AR patterns for gubmint contract.

[@AxLWake]

The fact that if a pistol is intended to be used by the police, it has to be extra dumb proof is really extra funny.

[@Kuemmel234]

That's what happens if police rarely needs it. Police kill like ten people a year here. Guns are no main concern.

[@SenkaBandit]

-well police in Europe don’t really use and train with firearms as much as in the US, and a lot of them don’t even carry firearms- edit: I’m wrong

[@AxLWake]

@@SenkaBandit a German cop just shot a terrorist slashing people with a knife... Most cops in Europe do carry guns. Europe is not like UK. US cops are definitely not trained better. The whole thing about the "NY cops Glock trigger" is not made up...

[@bigsyrup8567]

It makes sense. Even US cops are some of the most arrogant and useless people alive, with pistol “quals” that a 12 year old could pass.

[@hux2000]

@@SenkaBandit Regular police in Britain and Ireland don't carry firearms. Regular police in virtually all other European countries carry firearms just like in the US.

[@mitchellpatterson1829]

"(this Glock) has a thing at the back, and it has an extra switch." ATF has entered the chat.

[@Fami_Salami]

Yooo you got full auto?

[@kaboom4679]

Those poor dogs ....

[@FunhausRyan]

The German ATF?

[@1443bg]

That's probably why click won't sell them here

[@murrlin2m1n82]

*Everyone hated that*

[@Zach_Hazard]

I am so incredibly disappointed that there is a rotating barrel glock that I will never be able to get.

[@danm7206]

I'm sure Mike can find a mod for one

[@L71gaming]

Love the campfire stories man keep it up.

[@nothingtoseehere1221]

Dank hazard spotted

[@cnlbenmc]

It's Zach! How's the Fallout Enclave Run coming along? Edit; I'd love it if you somehow ever got to do an interview with Ian.

[@cyansuy3062]

Never say no, you said the same thing about owning a house a few years ago

[@hendersen7863]

The Glock reps at shot show tried telling me this thing never existed and Glock has never made a rotating barrel pistol. They were all blown away when I showed them .

[@deucedeuce1572]

Yeah, I've had people argue with me that Glock never produced a model with a manual safety too, even though it's what the military required for their testing when they went against the P320.

[@danieljuno810]

They don’t want to admit to their monster child.😂

[@hewdavies7733]

i mean a Glock USA sales rep isnt going to be all over their entire international catalouge, especially at a show aimed at the retail market.

[@jonnyl2001]

Yeah. They probably never even thought about why the US market Glocks jumped from G45 to G48 for an elongated time period. The 47 did make it to consumers so maybe one day Glock will do the same with the 46.

[@deucedeuce1572]

@@troy3456789 I agree. (I think the Glock without a manual safety would have been the better choice, over a P320 with or without the safety). I think the P320 is a good handgun and I even argue that they're not unsafe like many people claim... but for Concealed Carry and for Military Sidearms, I think the Glock is the better option. (I also think the P320 will cost them more in the long run).

[@Panzermeister36]

Glock finally releases the Glock killer

[@DK-gy7ll]

Forget about Glock Perfection. We now have the Imperfect Glock for Imperfect people.

[@1diggers1]

@@DK-gy7llYeah how hyper paranoid are the German police about negligent discharges to have all of those requirements? Train more, get cooler guns!!

[@Pikilloification]

I'm sure they train enough, stop with that mentality

[@tairhan52]

"fine, i'll do it myself."

[@m1sz3lpl24]

​@@1diggers1they train a lot more than US police, its just that most EU police forces prioritise safety

[@Shrapnel-tj3il]

I love when the design requirements are "make the system actively worse".

[@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929]

but its "safer" dont you want your police to be safe!? safe from both accidental and intentional firing lol

[@Kuemmel234]

In Germany, a country of 88 Million, police usually kill about 10 people per year. If Germany had the same population as the US, that'd be fewer than 40 instead of 1000+ - of course the requirements are very different.

[@jalpat2272]

​@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 safety indeed something you need to take first priority but readiness of action where every microsecond count obviously the second . Rather than gave 15 pounds of trigger pull it should be better with easy to use safety switch.

[@johnandrewserranogarcia7223]

The trigger might suck but the rotating barrel gives the Glock a lower bore axis than a tilting barrel. Lower bore axis means less muzzle flip when it recoils, this is potentially awesome.

[@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929]

@NathanHigger you clearly cant understand sarcasm.

[@Dmac6969]

I can't imagine wanting a worse glock trigger

[@mikeblair2594]

Are glock triggers that bad? I shot something similar. It was on of those 80% glock thing that this cop I know made and I was pleasantly surprised at how nice the trigger was. After a couple rounds I was putting every shot on target at 25 meters. It was a pretty good pistol. If glocks weren't so damn ugly I'd think about getting one. However I'm happy with my oddball former European police pistol collection. A S&W k frame 38sp, A Beretta 92s and a Star model BM in 9mm para. They're nice shooters all.

[@G47orG17]

@@mikeblair2594No they’re not bad, at all. I’ll tell you why, I’ve owned now a multitude of pistols, sigs, cz, colts, Glock of course. When you compare, like many do. A sig and Glock triggers are incredibly different, and I prefer the Glock trigger. It’s MUCHHH crisper than the sigs mushy, hard, drawn own pull. So no, I’d argue Glock triggers are better than a lot of STOCK striker fired pistols on the market.

[@IndianaIsntReal]

@@G47orG17 They also take a lot longer to break in than hammer driven weapons for example, meaning people will pick up a new display model in the store, feel the brand new trigger and immedietly be turned away having the perception that all glock triggers feel like that.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

NYPD has entered the chat

[@Lucas12v]

​@@mikeblair2594They aren't terrible but they're far from the best either.

[@oldesertguy9616]

I can imagine the cops in Saxony getting excited to be the only ones with the new Glock, only to try the trigger.

[@massivepileup]

I imagine their old guns had the same requirement.

[@prolebenz251]

Saxony-anhalt*

[@Hurricane2k8]

Most cops in Germany don't really care. It's nothing more than a work item they carry around, and >99% of cops will never fire their pistol while on duty, except to put down a deer that has been hit by a car maybe. They shoot the minimum requirements to stay qualified and that's it. Sure, there are some who are interested in firearms and will be excited for a new pistol, but they are in the minority.

[@no1DdC]

@@Hurricane2k8 To illustrate just how rare firearms use by police is in Germany, a total of 333 people have been killed by German police since reunification in 1991. That's about ten people per year on average, a number that is far too high according to German critics of police violence. Meanwhile, American police killed about four times as many people in 2023 alone. Edit: Just in case it was unclear, I meant four times the total since 1991, not four times the yearly average.

[@noneofyourbusinessfuckers8925]

@@no1DdCthat disparity of shootings is a direct result of the different demographics in Germany vs the US

[@Kasian02]

If it didn't use Glock magazines, THAT would be really surprising.

[@deucedeuce1572]

lol. Yeah, even the 42 and 43 were foolishly designed to use their unnecessarily thick polymer lined magazines that limit their capacity a great deal. (and the 43x and 48). Like, they FINALLY had guns that they didn't need to make magazine compatible (because they couldn't be magazine compatible), but they STILL decided to use magazines that were unnecessarily thick that rally limited capacity.

[@S1deshowRob]

@@deucedeuce1572you can thank Gaston for that. I’ll bet Glock is already cooking up their own double stack 43x mags as we speak now

[@deucedeuce1572]

@@S1deshowRob Would be nice. Hope they make a double stack 42 and 43 also. I think that was their biggest mistake in all the years they've existed as a company. (Not including his personal life). They've done a lot of good things as a company... but I think they completely screwed themselves on that one.

[@S1deshowRob]

@@deucedeuce1572 yeah a double stack .380 the size of a 48 would be the nicest shooting micro carry pistol on the market

[@Nsodnoajdjksl]

L4D2's Glock uses a Sig Sauer mag.

[@alexf9472]

0:39 "It's got a thing at the back, and an extra switch on the side." SOLD!!

[@KaPPy83]

I was like "tf?" when he said that 😂

[@thepersonwhocomentz]

I wanted it for all of five minutes before I saw that trigger pull. If ever a trigger pull warranted a "yikes," it's that one.

[@deucedeuce1572]

Aftermarket companies would sell triggers for them (at least)... and they could probably be easily modified to shoot normally. Like the Glock "NY Triggers" they sold to police stations, you could just remove the "NY spring" or whatever it's called and make it a normal Glock trigger.

[@oldfashioned8602]

You know its bad when it looks so awful.

[@cyma-zw2tt]

I wanted it till I saw the damn lever on the back

[@adgeroukltd.6733]

Cops don't shoot yourselves challenge: Glock edition

[@johnmurcott1273]

or any innocents nearby

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

​@@johnmurcott1273 (impossible)

[@deucedeuce1572]

@@johnmurcott1273 That's just asking too much. At least try to be fair.

[@l33tnobody1337]

@@deucedeuce1572 guys german police are not US Police..

[@deucedeuce1572]

@@l33tnobody1337 Yeah, but all police are... police.

[@bradmarthafocker4285]

I agree, if they made the trigger decent and left all other details the same, Americans would buy those all day just for the sake of the novelty. And then there would be a whole new sub section of internet gun arguments about whether the G46 or the PX4 is the better pistol lol.

[@hux2000]

It's an argument that could never be won, though, since it's impossible to argue that striker-fired is intrinsically better than hammer-fired (or vice-versa). But yes, those argument would of course still be had anyway!

[@nosebergs-are-at-it-again]

Glock looked at these requirements and said, "Yeah, we can make a shittier performing pistol on purpose"

[@Halera-]

Yeah. When a company makes an item specifically to meet some politicians' requirements and then they absolutely don't want to sell it on open market. That is all I need to know.

[@Saint_Wolf_]

I mean they made it dumb for cops. For rotating barrel can't go wrong with a Beretta PX4, those things are delightful.

[@JosephShemelewski]

​@@Saint_Wolf_ I always kinda wanted a PX4 I'll have to get one when I have the extra cash

[@Saint_Wolf_]

@@JosephShemelewski Yea, one costs a lot of pennies, Langdon Tactical does custom jobs of the gun BUT I'm not American, so he can't tweak my piece. Sadge.

[@blondedenton7243]

“A revolutionary design change.” A Glock wit da switch

[@chrism4008]

It's"revolutionary" because the barrel rotates, or, revolves if you will. It was a word joke

[@392swim]

@@chrism4008we knowwwww man 😂🙄

[@tullo5564]

Yeah, but this switch is useless 😂

[@lancerevell5979]

Nagant revolver owner says, "Heavy trigger? Meh." 😅

[@helifanodobezanozi7689]

Or how about, "Hold my vodka!"

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

Thanks to the Nagant, Russian soldiers had the strongest trigger fingers… …and happiest wives.

[@mikeblair2594]

@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 As if Russian men knew more than to stick it inside.

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

VP70 owners: Pfft! 😂😂😂

[@DawidKov]

@@mikeblair2594 А это, товарищи, толерантный западник, который никогда не обобщает, не верит в стереотипы и оценивает людей как индивидов.

[@leppeppel]

I wonder how long it'll be before that super rare demo-model Glock is a jewel in the collection of Future Fireplace Guy.

[@herbderbler1585]

I wish more manufacturers would make mechanisms like this for simple striker removal. Mossberg pistols do the same thing and it not only removed the need to pull the trigger when disassembling, but it also just makes it something you can clean regularly.

[@thekraken1173]

So they made a glock worse. A revolution indeed.

[@PolenarTactical]

this

[@wlewisiii]

No, they finally fixed the damn things. The G19 was the only pistol I was happy to sell. Unsafe POS.

[@stefthorman8548]

@@wlewisiii let me guess, finger on the trigger when you didn't want to shoot?

[@ratagris21]

When a Glock 19 and a Beretta Cougar have a baby hybrid.

[@Waldherz]

@@wlewisiii If you consider a Glock 19 to be unsafe, then YOU should NOT be allowed to own a firearm. Since its very obvious that you can not operate a gun properly.

[@stevehangzo7159]

Interesting! Love or hate Glocks, you can’t hate the fact that Gaston Glock had ZERO experience in Gunsmithing/Manufacturing but came up with one of the most used handguns right now. R.I.P.

[@Dapstart]

gaston glock more like gasman clock

[@charro7037]

Amen…

[@stevehangzo7159]

@@Dapstart *badum tssss*

[@jic1]

Apparently when Ronnie Barrett designed the M82, he was a photographer with no engineering background. About the same time frame as the development of the Glock 17 too.

[@tomswift3835]

"Can't hate the fact ..." You sure can. The first time I picked up a Glock - there was only one model in those days - I couldn't believe it. It was obviously designed by someone with absolutely NO "feel" for guns. None at all. Or, for that matter, any obvious familiarity with the human hand. Ugh. Of course I realized the Gaston was a plastics geek, and not a gun guy, and probably not up on anthropometry, either. But I was so underwhelmed that I've never so much as touched a Glock since. Why bother, when the world is full of guns which don't feel like something that should say "LEGO" on the side.

[@NO3V]

Impressively close enough 😉 Sachsen-Anhalt pronunciation. Greetings from Sachsen-Anhalt.

[@barbarossarotbart]

But then he is constantly talking about Saxony ...

[@maxmusterman7827]

Austrian here. As far as i know, among the other reasons, the rotating barrel design was used due to the requirement do fire +P+ "Behördenmunition". The regular tilting barrel design doesn't fully support the case due to the feed ramp. Take out the barrel, and put a Case in the Chamber, and look at it from the bottom, you see what i mean. So the way the Story goes is, that standard Glocks dont like very hot (+P+) ammo, so they came up with the rotating barrel to meet the requiremnts. Would be cooool if Ian read this, either to confirm or debunk.

[@deepbludreams]

I doubt it, because all they would have to do to allow very hot ammo is just create a factory fully supported barrel for the normal guns, all the aftermarket barrels have bottom support.

[@mbr5742]

German police fires standard NATO 9x19 rounds not hot loads. If they need more punch they dig out semi-auto MP5 or call in SEK/MEK. Body armor is very rare in germany

[@maxmusterman7827]

​​​@@deepbludreams i think modern aftermarket barrels weren't considered at this point. To be precise, I should say, the rotating barrel solves the problem of hot ammo, as well as the other requests, so it contributes to the decision to go with this solution, and not with a full chamber support standard barrel

[@maxmusterman7827]

​​@@mbr5742yet they put in the request for hot ammo. Some call that a obsessive request for the standard sidearm, because, as you Point Out, there are specialists Like SEK/GSG9 If needed

[@deucedeuce1572]

I believe that the only Glocks that don't fully support the cases are in .40SW. Otherwise, I think every 9mm has a fully supported chamber.

[@radfoxuk8113]

A heavy trigger, and a longer trigger pull is like a dull blade, it's both safer and more dangerous at the same time, the amount of damage possible is lower, but the chance of an accidental injury when using the tool correctly is higher.

[@radfoxuk8113]

It's better to choose one or the other, and not use both.

[@radfoxuk8113]

The rotating barrel system, if explored more by Glock, could be better for some markets, if not not realistically, but emotionally, like how weapon sounds in video games have a noticeable, and replicable impact on a weapon's performance simply due to the psychological affect, see People Make Games video on Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. The Thompson and MP40 had same stats, but the Thompson had better sound effects, this lead to a noticeable change in how well the guns performed due to a lack in confidence in the MP40, so they made the Thompson sound less cool, and this difference became negligible.

[@prolebenz251]

How does it increase the risk?

[@radfoxuk8113]

@@prolebenz251 If a knife is dull there's more chance for it to slip, and while a dull knife may not slice well, it can definitely stab and chop well enough to injure. A trigger pull that is too long or heavy, or both, can cause your aim to pull to one side, you can correct this with proper training, but it's unnecessary, just choose one, heavy or long, and you can reduce the risk significantly. A lot of cops, location doesn't change this, view their jobs as just that, a job, and not a service, and so do the bare minimum, so they are less likely to do the training to compensate for this hazard. Basically, a kill shot can become a wounding shot, and a wounding shot can become a miss that could injure a civilian or damage property, in some places this isn't important as the state will eat the costs, and police see little punishment for bad shoots, but in other places they do see consequences for bad shoots, and can be sued personally. In the UK, for example, many police don't want to be firearms officers since they are seeing consequences(*) for bad shoots, and firearms officers are usually only sent on calls that involved armed suspects, so are in more danger. I don't know about Germany, or individual German states/counties, so cannot comment on them specifically. (*) After a bad shoot, in which a firearms officer shot and killed an unarmed black man, the officer was charged with murder, and so firearms officers handed in their permits, "Blue Cards", in a strike/protest. e in more danger.

[@radfoxuk8113]

@@prolebenz251 Additionally: It's similar to why bullpups are viewed poorly, as the triggers are often not the best due to the mechanics of having to link the trigger at the front/middle, to the fire mechanism at the rear, of the weapon, bullpup triggers are often referred to as "spongey". Similarly for weapons that use a dual stage trigger that negates the need of a fire mode selector, and instead allows a light trigger pull to fire semi-automatically, and a full trigger pull to fire full-auto, like on an MG34 or P90, are viewed as worse than having a selector switch. A poor trigger can affect accuracy at any range, if that trigger is objectively poor, or poor to an individual shooter. A trigger that is too light/short can be just as bad. Lastly, Glocks are likely the safest pistol available, the automatic safeties in place eliminate possibly all dangers apart from user error, adding additional safeties in place of proper training and experience is, in my opinion, a bad idea.

[@scttshwldct]

Surprised that with all the time you've spent with Larry Vickers you didn't once refer to this as a "moon rock"

[@alexander1902]

I don't think most people want to mention Larry at this point and open the conversation to elitism and form forging.

[@scttshwldct]

@@alexander1902 Thanks for bringing the negativity

[@FryingTiger]

Snickers was smoking crack rocks.

[@openmythirdeye]

Hopefully Ian won't be spending any time with Larry in the foreseeable future🫤😬

[@tullo5564]

Is Larry still alive?

[@velvetine74]

That trigger is the reason they haven't attempted to sell it on the commercial market, yes?

[@CJBrunt]

The other Lawyerese argument if the 46 becomes freely available in the US, will also be that when every PD using 'old' Glocks has an ND, Officer Numbnut's lawyer will sue the PD for not issuing him the 'safer-Glock' instead of the old 'known to be un-safe' version.

[@CantoniaCustoms]

They could keep the rotating barrel, lighten the trigger, then market it as a premium more accurate version of the glock.

[@chipsterb4946]

@@CJBruntI don’t follow that argument. If Glock makes a “safer” pistol, why would it matter whether it is sold in the US or not?

[@elijahsmith8597]

​@chipsterb4946 it may be in similar thought process that some states have a law that if a working "smart gun" is on the market that is the only type of firearm you could legally sell after it comes out.

[@actionjksn]

No, because that trigger would be great for CCW, because it would be very safe to carry with a round in the chamber with no external safety. It's more like a double action revolver trigger. It may be bad for target shooting but it would be perfectly fine for a self-defense situation.

[@jwolfesp]

Keeping trigger happy cops from being happy.

[@primordial.sounds]

I have heard that most law enforcement and security services in the US are restricted from using single-action handguns , like the 1911 for instance, for liability reasons. Similar reasoning to these German restrictions on trigger weight and length of pull but theirs seem more comprehensive. Seems smart, from a public safety perspective.

[@CJBrunt]

A 'dumb-cop'-safe Glock should also be good for 'dumb-soldier' military sales. Even for non-German PDs in the US.

[@arconreef]

Rotating barrel pistols are known for being more sensitive to dirt/sand/grit getting into the action of the gun than browning action pistols, and you can see at 5:08 that the ejection port will act as a gaping hole where gunk can get into the action. There's a reason the browning action Glocks have extra material on the barrel to fill that area in. I don't think the 46 would pass military testing.

[@prolebenz251]

Acorn proof service pistol

[@jic1]

Until very recently, NYPD Glocks had special heavy triggers, usually said to be around 12 lbs. Apparently they dropped them in 2021, because they decided that poor marksmanship was a bigger problem than negligent discharges.

[@CJBrunt]

@@arconreef Yes, but how many pistol-packin' Fobbits ever saw dust that wasn't in their a/c filter?

[@alltat]

For military guns you usually want as few fancy features as possible. Every additional part is another thing that can go wrong, and in a warzone anything that can go wrong will inevitably go wrong.

[@RyTrapp0]

Ian covering this because he knows that it's obviously going to be a soon Forgotten Weapon(TM) once Glock finally gives up after the 1 contract that they could get for this pistol lol I was interested until I saw that patently absurd trigger... but, lets also be real, they could easily make a US market variant with a not-complete-dumpster-fire trigger no problem. It's just that they don't want to of course.

[@cplpuddingpop]

And even if they didn't, an aftermarket option would be designed in .05 seconds.

[@lukas7956]

...And for the next trial, the Germans will require the pistol to feature no pistol at all.

[@dyingearth]

Use the Force Luke.

[@g.p.1676]

With the current German government I would not be surprised...

[@eancola6111]

Just give them a stick at this point, I thought American police training was bad but Germany is clearly worse if they need all these safety measures.

[@Quality_Guru]

If you are keen on this pistol, then you will love the Grand Power pistols which have a rotating barrel system. The MK23 style of pistols are optics ready. You can go with a hammer or striker fired pistol. The prices are reasonable for exceptionally well built pistols.

[@balljointedmercenary]

Thanks for posting Ian!

[@Pharto_Stinkus]

Wow, I would love a rotating barrel Glock. I love my Beretta PX4 Storm!

[@harrykane3840]

So the Colt All American 2000 was a failed design but the Glock 46 is a revolutionary design. . . To quote Spinal Tap, "It's such a a fine line between stupid and clever."

[@Jesses001]

As for selling in the US, a small amount would sell as a collectable. If they offered it with a not garbage trigger, I think it could be a great seller. Most buyers would already have a few Glocks, so they are not competing with their other designs.

[@CantoniaCustoms]

And not to mention glock brand glocks are losing out to knockoffs and better clones because expired patents.

[@deucedeuce1572]

...and aftermarket companies would make better trigger for them too.

[@owenbrandon8370]

Wow I feel like a revolutionary just watching this

[@wolpenfire3562]

Does this mean we may see police surplus p7s on the market?

[@waldmeister0815]

From Sachsen Anhalt? Perhaps some cop from a village still has it's good old GDR Tokarev.

[@no1DdC]

@@waldmeister0815 Good one. As far as I know though, they ditched most Eastern Bloc equipment shortly after reunification.

[@dyingearth]

The P7 have been replace a while back.

[@Mr79dream]

unfortunately doubt it. The afaik german LEO/Military don't sell to the civilian market anymore. Eyther developemt aid to some other country or shredder

[@danbarb9728]

There are no police P7s used in a german state anymore, i remember that the last german state decided to destroy thousands of them instead of sell them to private users. They did this because they said it would costs alot of money logistically to sell the guns because the P7s had no worth, they calculated like 200 Euro per piece. They didnt know that the P7 is worth alot more in the US and even the german used market has now prices from 700-1000 euro. So i am afraid they are all destroyed now. The german state of sachsen Anhalt never had P7s though, they had the P6 which was Sig Sauer P225 and before that they had Makarow PM "пистолет Макарова" because its in east germany. The state of Sachsen (without the Anhalt) used P7s and P10s, the P10 was a HK USP compact. They were all replaced with HK SFP9 (VP9)

[@acheeseburger7367]

It’s really interesting that Glock did something so different from the norm, just a shame the first thing they do differently is weird because their contractor wanted it to be.

[@isomeades1121]

Yeah, I may be one of those purchase on a whim folks he's talking about, I own a Grand Power P40, delightful gun, but I have to admit a big part of the reason I bought it was the novelty of the rotating barrel. I'd love to see Ian do a run down of some of the Grand Power designs someday, not a lot of information on them available online.

[@BADD1ONE]

The beretta storm is the best rotating pistol ive fired. Those German police requirements made for one complete pos.

[@jonathanschubert9052]

Love the storm!

[@prolebenz251]

Its not dupposed to be a fun gun or a race gun its a tool german police rarely use

[@babayaga6376]

It sounds like the tool was designed around shitty requests made by the client.

[@Snougaloogie]

​@@prolebenz251it seems unintuitive to use, especially considering firearms training is minimal as contrasted with America. They could have gotten P30s from HK and had a double single pistol pretty much off the shelf

[@hornmonk3zit]

@@SnougaloogieUS cops only have to fire 50 rounds a year to requalify and they get approved even when they fail, I can't imagine armed police in any other first world nation with lower firearms proficiency standards. And most of the time our cops get to self report their own qual scores so they don't even shoot half the time, the horror stories of cops showing up to gun ranges and giving up after trying and failing to jam the wrong ammo in their guns and going home are nearly endless. Those are the cops on our streets, there is no chance Germany is worse.

[@gunbutter830]

Releasing this pistol with a normal Glock trigger would be very easy for Glock. The sales in the US would be significant.

[@kephrarubin]

Thanks for sharing didn't even know that version existed.

[@TeamKhandiKhane]

"There are a lot of other rotating barrel pistols, in production and in use, Baretta has one, Grand Power has one, Steyr made one back in 1912" Me who grew up with steyr firearms. Yes even the weird ones. "Of course they did."

[@psp1921tsmg]

If I want to rotating barrel, I’ll buy a Beretta or a Stoeger cougar

[@trjnsd6874]

So German: take a simple design and make it more complicated.

[@Gunmetaltech]

I’m more excited about that deeper beavertail. Hope they include that in a Gen 6 frame design.

[@jonas1484]

Finally! Been waiting on a full length video of this unicorn for years.

[@gtantha]

Just FYI: Saxony-Anhalt (Sachsen-Anhalt) and Saxony (Sachsen) are two different states. You messed that up around 3:45

[@gilbertohernandez9223]

I don't know why but the thought of a German confusing Kansas and Arkansas popped into my head after reading this.

[@DanzigDemento]

Not unlike Washington the state and Washington the District of Columbia.

[@tintifax8531]

And then of course there's Niedersachsen, just for variety. Germans are so original with their names!

[@Ink_25]

​@@tintifax8531To be fair, a third of Germany was once saxons :D

[@alanfender123]

Thought the video title was written sarcastically- boy was I wrong! I think it would be interesting for Glock to make a machine pistol with this sort of rotating barrel locking mechanism and see if it ends up being more controllable because of the (supposed) reduction in slide flip

[@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929]

partially sarcastic I think. Did you see how bad that trigger was? Its like combining the trigger on a ruger lcp and a bad bullpup conversion kit.

[@LugerBrasil]

Glock: How can I make it worst? Here.

[@KarlwithaK1365]

Love this page.

[@xelaxander]

As far as German state procurement requirements can make sense, the safety features do. Police pistols are used rarely in exceptional circumstances, trigger time is pretty low for most officers. They don’t have to be fun to shoot. They should shoot well enough on the rare occasion it’s required, be easy to use, and absolutely not shoot accidentally.

[@tenshi6293]

I don't know what you think about it, but I wouldn't be surpised if this trigger ends up killing somebody

[@jeromethiel4323]

When you have police officers in the US shooting into their own car, with a handcuffed suspect in the back, because of an acorn falling onto the car, the issue isn't the firearm. The issue is terrible police officers and a severe lack of training.

[@tenchraven]

@@tenshi6293 The concept we call "qualified immunity" in America is a centuries old European tradition. You punish the cop not because he can't shoot straight and never should have been issued a nerf gun much less a real one, you punish him becuase of the negative impact on the tax base.

[@prolebenz251]

​@@tenshi6293how?

[@prolebenz251]

​@jeromethiel4323 yea but it takes 3 years not 3 months in germany

[@waynebaker8694]

Here’s one for the algorithm. Great video as always!

[@joem5639]

Just like the Beretta PX4 storm with the rotating barrel. A very smooth shooter.

[@tullo5564]

Trigger 🤡

[@CookieMonster0108]

Glock somehow managed to make their trigger worse, truly the pinnacle of innovation

[@Soacwiththaface]

RIP Gaston Glock.

[@aceman1126]

Make this long slide and optics ready and put a good trigger in it and you got a pretty ideal competition gun

[@DogDog173]

super impressive. thanks Ian.

[@jonp8015]

I understand their decision not to sell it solely on a parts and repair basis. If they let it out into the market, that's a whole lot of weird parts they'd have to distribute out, but if they make it experimentally for a very specific location, then they only have one warehouse that needs to worry about these funky parts.

[@_Art.Vandelay]

Rotating barrel actions are so back.

[@wyomins]

I bet the US civilian market would buy twice the amount that German police would buy.

[@afwaller]

Not with this garbage 100 lb trigger

[@prizrak-br3332]

@@afwaller Would still do it for the novelty

[@martinswiney2192]

Nope. Not for me.

[@One-Armed-Un-Boxer]

order of magnitude more

[@prizrak-br3332]

@@kirahund6711 Which I bet they will.

[@southtexasshooting]

I really like that beaver tail

[@royns]

Very interesting, thank you for posting!

[@ZeManTF2]

comments available now?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

KZbin turned them off; I have no idea why. They just do that sometimes now.

[@GigAnonymous]

@@ForgottenWeapons I have an idea why - if you click on the link about why comments were disabled, they list as a potential reason a nonspecific "potential safety issue". So yeah, here's the proverbial smoking gun...

[@RyanPatridge]

@@ForgottenWeaponsand i constantly get anti-firearm ads during your videos. 😂

[@gilgamecha]

​@@ForgottenWeaponsthere's an interesting comment from an Austrian viewer above here, saying the rotating barrel is to handle +P+ ammunition that won't feed properly in a regular Glock.

[@wookie_wagen]

I've been waiting for this video ever since I knew what the G46 was

[@dieselfrk13]

Glock did all that work just to get acquired by one department?! Edit I wrote too soon 8600 is kind of a lot. But I don't think they recouped their money in R&D.

[@Steve-fi8bb]

I'm reading a lot of comments from trigger snobs who are not prepared to put in the training time on a gun with a 'different' trigger. I like nice triggers as much as the next person, but when invited to shoot a gun that the herd says has a 'bad' trigger, I often find it is not THAT bad a disaster. The CPX-2 springs to mind. Yes, the trigger is very long, a true DAO with no reset (the reset crowd are now biting chunks out of the desk) and it is a touch heavy in such a light gun. However, the action is smooth, making it no worse than many double action revolvers. Sure, that takes more practice and you will never get short split times unless you practice like Miculek. Big. Deal. I found it no problem to shoot fist sized groups at 7 yards with minimal practice, and I consider myself an average shooter at best. Accepting the way the machine works and applying basic skills can overcome a 'subpar' trigger. With the Glock 46 the German government have specified a trigger for average cops who are not 'gun people'. The German police will now train for the machine their paymasters have specified. So what? Most cops in the US aren't that interested in guns either, that's why we got the New York/Mass trigger. Where the US falls down is that most departments don't train enough. You can bet the Germans train a lot, because that is their culture.

[@tomunterwegs1206]

That rotating barrel with its lower bore axis, lightened trigger.. lighter than a normal glock, same mags, same evereything = instant sales win.

[@maxchan179]

brain as smooth as butter

[@nate665]

Pretty crazy that they essentially created a set of requirements to force the pistol to be less effective.

[@mattolfson9230]

I expected we'll see that style of firing pin in the Gen 6 for the US market to make them incompatible with illegal "Switches" to counter the NY case brought against Glock.

[@PhoenixFyre]

I've got a Px4 and it's a good pistol, especially when you replace the factory sights. Though I'm no marksman by any means but the rotating barrel isn't a bad system.

[@robbledot7290]

I wonder if this barrel system would be better for use with a suppressor since it doesn’t tilt. Maybe no need for a booster

[@hornmonk3zit]

The rotating barrel can unscrew suppressors, that's why the only threaded PX4 model is basically unobtainium. And it definitely still needs a booster, Beretta 92's aren't exempt from boosters either.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

It will still need a booster, the supressor mass screws up the short recoil action

[@youtubewatcher4792]

I would not mind adding one to the collection out of curiosity if they released it in the US like they did the G25 and G28

[@ChristopherKlepel]

So cool. love all your videos

[@2aalltheway614]

The glock can be disassembled without pulling the trigger.. its just more complicated. Pull back the slide, clear and leave it locked open, use a pin to depress the plastic sleeve over the firing pin and remove the rear plate and firing pin. You can now remove the slide without pulling the trigger.

[@jamesoncross7494]

Way to overcomplicate a Glock. Jesus! If you aren't smart enough to check the chamber 1st you should not be allowed to operate a gun.

[@jjmckay6man1]

or the did you take the magazine out switch LMAO!

[@West-TexX]

Initially intrigued, then intrigue ebbing due to being informed that the pistol is ruined by committee who basically knows nothing.

[@alyxander8897]

I could see this being a new style of Glock if they ever go after current glocks for the switch epidemic

[@erikbogerman2048]

The rotating barrel is an interesting turn of events for glock. Everything else is Nanny state cop regulations. Especially when german swat is still using g17 & g19.

[@leonida-alexandrudiaconu8660]

I see all the comments from i guess expert in firearms people and yet I fail to understand why having a safe procedure to disassemble the gun is a bad thing. In my humble opinion having to pull the trigger in order to be able to disassemble the gun is asking for trouble. I know that the experts will mock me but I think that every modern fire arm should have mechanisms like that. No matter how “experienced” you are, accidents can and do happen.

[@Exkudor95]

Difference in mentality. 99% of the gun people are american and there is just much more of a "You do you, better know what you're doing" mentality (or there was at least - when there are requirements by law they are even dumber: "Don't microwave your hamster", "Coffee is hot" type of shit, but the NRA is keeping guns mostly free of those it seems) over there while germany has rules for everything (see DIN and *waves hand at country in general*). Also, american cops have to have a way different approach. In germany there just arent people running around with guns. You really don't run the risk of being gunned down during your usual traffic stop because you were too slow with your gun. There are certainly parts of town or operations where you can expect gangs with guns (Dortmund Nordstadt...) but that's where police shows up in force and often not with pistols but with their issued SMGs. I also think the regulations are sensible, way too many brickheads in the police force.

[@kevinalmgren8332]

Assembling a firearm should always involve a function check, which would include a trigger press. If you can’t safely unload a pistol, you probably shouldn’t be in possession of one.

[@DaMainDude]

Considering German cops usually only fire around 20 rounds per year, that totally makes sense.

[@jeffanon1772]

Most American Cops only fire 50 rounds per year.

[@DaMainDude]

@@jeffanon1772 Maybe they should have a 20 pound trigger as well 😂

[@jflo4073]

Yeah, but they get the same workout from it.

[@kriseckhardt5148]

Ian...... You are the best.

[@justanothergunnerd8128]

This is so cool. Bummer it's not for sale here in the USA.

[@texasranger24]

The german police has a technical requirement sheet made by the german police university experts. Yet it's total hot garbage and should be updated asap. And as to the pistols used by the 16 federal states in Germany, 6 use the H&K SFP9/VP9, 5 use the Walther P99, 2 use the H&K P10 (USP), 1 (and the federals) use the H&K P30, 1 use the H&K P2000, and 1 uses the Glock 46.

[@torgejh9189]

I've been on the force here in Germany for little over a year now. In my state we have the SFP9 and because of that I have next to no experience with Glocks, so this was quite an interesting watch. That super long and heavy trigger pull is mandated by regulations, so it's just something you will get used to from day 1 of firearms training. At first, it really does feel like trying to break a broom handle with just your index-finger.

[@beauhancock4922]

Smith and Wessons gas tempo barrel system proves the concept pretty well.

[@deadturtle007]

As someone who owns a glock 22 and berreta cougar (rotating barrel in .40). The glock way less recoil and more accurate. That could be because I am more used to that impulse but the routing barrel mechanism is more of a fun change up than an actual improvement

[@user-oi1fd6fx2j]

ATF: Switch??!! IT'S FuLl AuTo! ATF: Hole in barrel?!!?? It'S a SuPReSsOR!

[@allanfoster6965]

The Austrian varietals 😂

[@Grooove_e]

As cool as it is that Glock finally did something different, even if they released this for civilian sale in the U.S. the Beretta PX4 would still be much less expesive, have at least as much reliability, and have a much better trigger.

[@Honey_Badger_]

8:27 It looks like it has a Gen 3 ejector, famous for sending brass to the face

[@chaplainhyena1523]

A gun designed by a committee that set out to design a knife

[@skepticalbadger]

So?

[@jonathanschubert9052]

I do love my Glock knife

[@hornmonk3zit]

Actually they mainly made curtain rods and sold bulk horse cum. The knife and pistol both came out right around the same time.

[@CJBrunt]

US: "We beat them Krauts twice with muh45." German: "Nur ich haben mein46..." 😎

[@MossyOakFreak]

Once you see Ian's mustache and beard as a talking mushroom you can't unsee it.

[@Tackleberry117]

So basically Germany looked at nypd glocks and said give us that but worse and more complicated.

[@pewpew9193]

You can always tell that the people who make guidelines for service guns don't know anything about guns.

[@prolebenz251]

I mean its not supposed to be a fuk gun its a tool. Most german police shiotings using pistols are pretty up close

[@pewpew9193]

@prolebenz251 I don't care how close they are, their requirements are 100% unnecessary & do nothing but make the users job harder.

[@zxggwrt]

They sure know about their users 😂

[@jl6569]

Honestly thought this was satire at first lol.

[@Mophony]

Wow, Glock proved that they do infact have an R&D department

[@jjaymcdaniel]

Finally!! A Glock that I actually might be interested in!