9x19 Skorpion on the Range

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@WesternGopnik1
@WesternGopnik1 2 жыл бұрын
Other companies: "No, you can't shoot our rare and one of a kind weapons." Meanwhile at CZ: "Lol Ian you wanna mag dump our prototype guns?"
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much!
@Stepica
@Stepica Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I am proud to be Czech. This is one of those times lol
@christinesulyvahn6043
@christinesulyvahn6043 8 ай бұрын
​@@StepicaI love the guns your country made
@MonMornQB
@MonMornQB 7 ай бұрын
Sad they won’t make more
@leonardpearlman4017
@leonardpearlman4017 4 ай бұрын
I bet they don't have to ask him twice!
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was expensive to produce and complex design, but look at the performance out of such a tiny (for what it is) PDW. The gun is nothing short of amazing. It's a shame it never moved into high production, but there were much more cost effective easier to produce subgun designs available. This and the original model 61 are by today's standards obsolete but they will not be forgotten
@markkelly6259
@markkelly6259 2 жыл бұрын
I am kind of surprised that they never found a market with someone like the palace guards to Saudi princes or the Sultan of Brunei or other organizations where cost is no problem.
@arkadiuszwitkowski4170
@arkadiuszwitkowski4170 2 жыл бұрын
Here we need to remain about Polish rak
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 2 жыл бұрын
@@markkelly6259 American Secret Service close protection teams for the President used to carry concealed Uzi's. This would seem like a better option but I guess they only had .32 Skorpions when they were using the Uzis. Nowadays they probably have P90's or something similarly advanced.
@paullytle1904
@paullytle1904 2 жыл бұрын
@@silverjohn6037 plus there was the whole Iron curtain factor
@Trve_Kvlt
@Trve_Kvlt 2 жыл бұрын
@@silverjohn6037 According to Wikipedia, FN P90, HK MP5, Remington 870 and Sig P229 are the most common issued firearms. The latter P229 being replaced by a Glock variant (probably the Glock 19). Edit: Again, according to Wikipedia. The P229 is being replaced by the Glock 19 MOS Gen 5.
@davidgreen40
@davidgreen40 2 жыл бұрын
“I was wrong.” How many other gun channels have a personality who so naturally admits to being wrong? No histrionics. No catchy title. Just a statement in the monologue. Keep it up Ian, keep it up!
@Schrodingers_kid
@Schrodingers_kid 2 жыл бұрын
Ian is our Gun Jesus and he sets an example for us to follow.
@iamAwesomo1994
@iamAwesomo1994 2 жыл бұрын
bc if he didn't say it he'd get crucified by all the youtube fact checkers. He is gun Jesus after all.
@volusian95
@volusian95 2 жыл бұрын
"You Won't BELIEVE What Happened When I Shot This CALL OF DUTY 4 Gun!!!"
@dreamingflurry2729
@dreamingflurry2729 2 жыл бұрын
Ian does that all the time, when his expectations for a gun aren't met (so either way better or way worse), he tells it how it is, he doesn't pander to the audience or the makers of certain guns! If Ian is not satisfied with a weapon, he says why that is and often he even thinks about ways to mitigate or fix that...it's one of the things I respect him for, the other being that he admits it when a gun fully justifies the hype (like when he was allowed to shoot a full-auto Fallschirmjägergewehr 42 (FG42!), which tamed the recoil of the full power 8mm Mauser-Cartridge very well and stayed controllable even on full-auto fire!)
@GRHrivnak
@GRHrivnak 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite part about Ian is that he doesn't use any dumb words or phrases even though he's having fun. A certain KZbinr said about operating a Thompson: "You keep the trigger held down until you run out of shooty shoots." This was said by a guy who is at least 40. You'll never hear Ian say that.
@BangoJay_Official
@BangoJay_Official 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to be a recurring theme on here lol, being surprised by how well Skorpions shoot. Great video!
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 2 жыл бұрын
There are very few SMGs that live up to the hype they recieve, this is one.
@CrazyBader
@CrazyBader 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the Skorpion is genuinely one of the best guns I've ever used, alongside a HK417. It's a fantastic piece of kit, so I can only imagine how great a 9mm one would be.
@ecthelion83
@ecthelion83 2 жыл бұрын
Those of us of a certain age remember our first exposure to the Skorpion as the Klobb from GoldenEye 64. Many misunderstandings probably come from that game (in which the Klobb was a terribly inaccurate pea-shooter). We know better now, of course.
@mikewysko2268
@mikewysko2268 2 жыл бұрын
We thank CZ for their generosity.
@JimoftheSlim
@JimoftheSlim 2 жыл бұрын
You know, there was a comment 3-4 years ago on one of Ian's videos that said "this guy has one of the jobs my guidance counselor didn't tell me about in high-school." On vids like this one, I think about that a lot.
@ThisFinalHandle
@ThisFinalHandle 2 жыл бұрын
Legend has it the shell casings are still in orbit rotating around the earth. And on a clear night you can see them like a train moving across the nights sky.
@MisterIvyMike
@MisterIvyMike 2 жыл бұрын
God dammit, now I know what I've seen maybe two years ago in the evening sky. Thanks a lot! 👍
@wastedangelematis
@wastedangelematis 2 жыл бұрын
With the naked eye admist light pulluted town centre no less, goes well with a bottle of wine fir star shooting night experience
@kodiakkeith
@kodiakkeith 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it was Czechs, but it was Czechs.
@floridasoldat
@floridasoldat 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you’re not wrong, those things launch them straight up 🤣
@deathlis
@deathlis 2 жыл бұрын
That had me laughing! Didn't even notice until you pointed it out...but holy cow!
@TheOriginalFaxon
@TheOriginalFaxon 2 жыл бұрын
This is everything I ever expected it to be. I honestly don't know why it didn't become popular given how well it performs. What was wrong with it again? If transferrable automatic weapons hadn't been made illegal in the US right before this thing was designed, I feel like a lot of civilians would have purchased one
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 2 жыл бұрын
Cost is the reason for its lack of popularity. Yes, it performs fantastically well, but because of the greater mechanical complexity that inevitably comes with making such a compact, select-fire gun work in 9x19, the cost was likely deemed prohibitive by all the gun's prospective customers. Other, simpler designs offered good enough performance much more economically.
@tarmaque
@tarmaque 2 жыл бұрын
Expensive for what it was, as I understand it.
@andrewholdaway813
@andrewholdaway813 2 жыл бұрын
And that's _why_ they were made illegal.
@TheOriginalFaxon
@TheOriginalFaxon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hibernicus1968 I know all this. Everything else in its power class is still significantly larger in one way or another. The only exception I can think of is the MP5K, and you need to brace it with a sling and be in shape to control it without a stock. This just gives you one instead and let's you go to town. Size is still a big consideration even today, and all the PDWs that are this small, come with some downside which hinders performance. Seems like the only downside here was cost, and that's not always a factor for some. I'm sure USSOC tested this thing as well lol
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginalFaxon Yeah, but CZ couldn't go into production unless they had a lot of people willing to buy. Apart from special operations people, who can pick pretty much what they want, militaries aren't generally concerned with providing the very, very best small arms bar none. They want _enough_ performance, at reasonable cost, with good long-term reliability, since they're going to be arming thousands of people. A gun that offers 20% more performance, but costs 40% more per unit, is generally not going to make the cut if the next competitor meets the specified criteria without that extra 40% per unit cost. And though the spec ops guys might love to have this thing, when enough other customers don't materialize to enable CZ to make a profit producing it, the spec ops guys won't get it either.
@twunt2000
@twunt2000 2 жыл бұрын
I see this Skorpion still has the *raining brass* feature. *I want one.*
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 2 жыл бұрын
How to confuse privates on range cleanup detail: when there magically ain't no brass anywhere in sight to be policed up
@ВанбродскиРеБтил
@ВанбродскиРеБтил 2 жыл бұрын
It's junk dude, believe me you don't want....
@NotDave_x
@NotDave_x 2 жыл бұрын
That is shockingly controllable as a fully automatic PDW. I kind of want to see one for the US market now, I think in 9 mm it makes a lot more sense as a semi-auto civilian pcc than in it's original chambering.
@insertnamehere001
@insertnamehere001 2 жыл бұрын
They did sell it to the civilian market and not many people bought it because it was expensive, according to the first video.
@larthallor
@larthallor 2 жыл бұрын
In what scenario is this (in semi-auto) the best choice, really? Let’s be honest: there really is not a market for this here, other than for collectors.
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about .32 ACP being an issue. No one argues that a blast of 00 buckshot from a twelve gauge is deadly. Double ought translates to .33 caliber and using less ballistically efficient round balls rather than conical projectiles. A standard 00 shot shell caries 9 pellets but because of the spread you won't likely hit with more than 5-6 beyond point blank range. If the Skorpion really is as easy to shoot as Ian is saying that would mean you should be able to get 5-6 shots off pretty quick. So not the most powerful combination but a long way from useless.
@BigSam63
@BigSam63 2 жыл бұрын
@@silverjohn6037 shotgun spread for buckshot is generally 1 inch per yard travelled down range. So at typical home defense distances a competent shooter should be capable of keeping all pellets on target.
@jameskazd9951
@jameskazd9951 2 жыл бұрын
@@silverjohn6037 plus there are some decent self defense loadings for 32 acp, like the lehigh extreme cavitators/penetrators
@michaelhyland9216
@michaelhyland9216 2 жыл бұрын
The first and second generation Skorpions are my favorite PDW's - really too bad that they didn't take off more. And would love too see the 9mm suppressed.
@Kitteh.B
@Kitteh.B 2 жыл бұрын
You know, it's nice that Ian does his thanks/shoutouts before the magdump - something most people are sticking around for, so it gets just a little more attention before people tune out. Shows respect to the people who contributed to the video :)
@Tidebo1
@Tidebo1 2 жыл бұрын
Always a nice thing if Ian is pleasantly surprised. Same thing with the Beretta 38.
@MrKronikDeception
@MrKronikDeception 2 жыл бұрын
This is another Forgotten Weapon that was before its time. If CZ released this today as PCC in the US, there would be a niche in the market for it. The downside would be the cost. No military is using it, or any of the components, so the economy of scale might not be there. To do the stamped sheet metal might be a bit much for such a niche weapon.
@josephlorenz6703
@josephlorenz6703 2 жыл бұрын
The cost may go down as a pcc in the US. No automatic means no rate reducer means easier and cheaper to produce.
@panvlk
@panvlk 2 жыл бұрын
There would also be a big limitation for current market - the top ejection would make it quite difficult to mount optics.
@zeiphie
@zeiphie 2 жыл бұрын
Considering Ian's wealth of experience thus far in the field of small arms suprising him (pleasantly) in such a way with essentially the same platform twice is no simple feat.
@henrisivonen7404
@henrisivonen7404 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That Skorpion really did scale up nicely. The honest look of surprise on Ian's face was worth watching!
@andrewgates8158
@andrewgates8158 2 жыл бұрын
Next he must shoot the 380 one.
@barttorbert5031
@barttorbert5031 2 жыл бұрын
The original Skorpion took advantage of the lighter recoil from the .32 ACP round. I had wondered if the basic design could have been upgraded to 9mm, but I was betting against it working. The rate reduction mechanism worked well, but I did not think it would survive with in great "kick" it would get from 9mm.
@ВанбродскиРеБтил
@ВанбродскиРеБтил 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in army that junk was my secondary personal weapon,7 seconds for dismantle and ready for cleaning.... Primary was M70AB2,was needed 28 second....
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 2 жыл бұрын
Good job! You kept the guy with the pan and spoon busy!😜 That looks about ideal for the PDW niche, if pistol caliber is acceptable. A unicorn for me.
@bustinjeiber4045
@bustinjeiber4045 2 жыл бұрын
4:53 The bells in the distance really add to the ambiance.
@nickverbree
@nickverbree 2 жыл бұрын
Are we really surprised there was a chorus of bells for Gun Jesus and full auto mag dumps?
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 2 жыл бұрын
Well naturally. :D There's a catholic church in every village here. Although they don't ring their bells every 15 minutes (exceptions apply), but a Sunday noon is pretty much reliable. I recommend visiting Uherský Brod, it's a pretty little border town on a low hill in a flat landscape. Border mountains looming on the horizon.
@radi0w4ve
@radi0w4ve 2 жыл бұрын
It's surprising how well this thing works! Unlike the Skorpion Scarab 9mm lol
@kmech3rd
@kmech3rd 2 жыл бұрын
I just rewatched the video Ian did on it. It's night and day. Both the gun and the video.
@mcintoshpc
@mcintoshpc 2 жыл бұрын
Man, it’s almost like these Czech guys know a thing or two about guns
@zMazine
@zMazine 2 жыл бұрын
They "learned" it from the germans
@MarvinCZ
@MarvinCZ 2 жыл бұрын
@Puraah OG No.
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 2 жыл бұрын
@@zMazine Completely incorrect. Maybe try a different gun channel to be stupid on, there are plenty. But here people actually know what's up. Good luck on your education adventures...
@zMazine
@zMazine 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeingFireRetardant Damn its correct that most people on the internet cant take jokes haha Edit: And that poem is goofy
@lisbon1492
@lisbon1492 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, who would've thought that the Klobb turned out to be such a great gun?!
@TJ-wg3ud
@TJ-wg3ud 2 жыл бұрын
It scared me when he dropped the bolt on the first mag, I forgot its a closed bolt gun. Lol
@themomaw
@themomaw 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of interesting how you can actually see the rate reduction on the slow-mo. The bolt snaps back at full speed, and it locks up at full speed, but in the middle of its travel it lingers a bit
@eamonia
@eamonia 2 жыл бұрын
Locks up? I thought they were open bolt.
@ambivalentonion2620
@ambivalentonion2620 2 жыл бұрын
@@eamonia closed bolt, just look at it
@noquartergiven7789
@noquartergiven7789 2 жыл бұрын
@@eamonia That is a closed bolt machine gun. Look at the slow-mo clips 3:35 and watch the ejection port and direction it travels when firing. It starts and ends its cycle in the closed position. It also locks the bolt back on the last round fired.
@eamonia
@eamonia 2 жыл бұрын
@@noquartergiven7789 No shit. I always just assumed that it was open bolt. Being that it's a 9mm. I guess that's why it's so easy to control. When you don't have to deal with your shot placement being disrupted by the bolt slamming forward and throwing your shot off, it makes perfect sense. That answers my next question then.
@eamonia
@eamonia 2 жыл бұрын
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine God damn it guys. I get it. I'm drunkenly trying to respond to all of you guys right now. I'm working with one eye here and every other word I type, I have to retype because I keep missing the keys I'm going for. I wish I recorded me trying to do this right now.
@ognoders
@ognoders 2 жыл бұрын
last round bolt hold open is a nice feature.
@shakejuntbitches
@shakejuntbitches 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Didn’t expect that.
@spindabear
@spindabear 2 жыл бұрын
I remember everyone in the 90's thought of the 32 acp skorpions as just European Tec-9's, but we were all completely wrong. This gun is more complicated, and has significantly more moving parts than an MP5. Does the rate reducing floating weight system impact felt recoil at all?
@Asghaad
@Asghaad 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to have some direct comparison to weapons in the same class, namely UZI and MP7 and see where this Scorpion stands among it's peers in price and performance.
@Paelorian
@Paelorian 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the B&T MP9 is currently the best SMG of this size. It's my favorite PDW. The MP7 and MP9 are definitely a generation ahead of the Mini-UZI and Micro-UZI and vz68/Skorpion 9×19mm. Lightweight polymer construction, and not just a simple blowback action that adds weight and recoil. The MP7 is larger than the MP9. The MP7 competes more with guns like the FN P90 or IWI X95. Like them and the Mini-UZI, it's more a briefcase gun than a holster gun. The Skorpion, Micro-UZI, and MP9 are true holsterable SMGs that could be carried in a holster off the belt or possibly concealed under a jacket. They're all a little bit dated and I'd like to see something really modern. This is the only kind of SMG that hasn't been outclassed by compact assault rifles like the IWI X95, which are superior to traditional SMGs in most roles. But they're not small enough to wear them in a holster on your person like the small PDW SMGs.
@conorfoster2337
@conorfoster2337 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you can do a CZ factory tour some day!
@Hidalguense
@Hidalguense 2 жыл бұрын
We will all drool
@seankirby8831
@seankirby8831 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie of cz produced a civilian version of this I'd probably buy it Some classic about it's design
@willwilkie8558
@willwilkie8558 2 жыл бұрын
Just having room on the weapon to put your support hand is nice. That was always my main gripe with the 61 with the reciprocating handle traveling where I'd like my thumb to live.
@gwaters8067
@gwaters8067 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm Ali G, welcome to Forgotten Weapons... n tings
@DarkestVampire92
@DarkestVampire92 2 жыл бұрын
I still think this would make for a fantastic concealed carry PDW, or an option for tank crews. As good as the EVO3 is, its more MP5 sized whereas this is a big pistol.
@crimcrusader8459
@crimcrusader8459 Жыл бұрын
Throw in a 30-rounder curved magazine, a threaded barrel, allow for acommodation of reflex/red-dot sights and strengthen the gun to use hotter loads and it would make for a really good concealed carry machine pistol.
@awmperry
@awmperry 2 жыл бұрын
I find myself wishing you could bring that to a BUG match now...
@charlesshirk8699
@charlesshirk8699 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see him do a BUG match with the .32acp version in full auto.
@buffewo6386
@buffewo6386 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the Skorpion redone in either .30SC or a Nato PDW round like the FN 5.7mm/HK 4.6mm. (Think it is 4.6mm.. MP7) Edit: Preferably 5.7mm for the rounds to legnth ratio for the magazines.
@Paelorian
@Paelorian 2 жыл бұрын
It's cool but rather dated compared to more modern guns of comparable size and role like the B&T MP9 (lightweight polymer construction, flattop rail and other accessory attachment points, short recoil operation instead of simple blowback which adds weight and recoil). Still, I might prefer a 9mm Skorpion to a Micro-UZI. I'd probably prefer a HK MP7, even though it's larger. I like the B&T MP9 the most among all the PDW SMGs. It's a good shooter and the best for actually carrying in a holster.
@bubbajenkins123
@bubbajenkins123 2 жыл бұрын
Czech out the link in the description
@cjdangles
@cjdangles 2 жыл бұрын
All you gun-tubers starting out these videos with semi-auto… nobody cares to see a full auto gun shot in semi 😂 But seriously. Love your channel. Thanks for putting out so much great content.
@jesusm.pereztriana9319
@jesusm.pereztriana9319 2 жыл бұрын
Feel strange to watch this video while suffering scorching weather.
@Juel92
@Juel92 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like the flex in the stock is really helping out. Seems like a really great gun overall.
@metalinside
@metalinside 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Sarmä Smock! Best 3 season jacket ever.
@nongratum7755
@nongratum7755 2 жыл бұрын
I like the coat you have Ian. Does anyone know the brand?
@Kingwoodish
@Kingwoodish 2 жыл бұрын
As a multiple CZ rifle owner from 22LR to .308 calber, I enjoyed this video.
@cliffracer_
@cliffracer_ 2 жыл бұрын
this would've been the perfect Warsaw Pact SMG, compared to the Rak the things like an MP5
@Markbell73
@Markbell73 2 жыл бұрын
So, the Klobb isn't such bullet spitting junk after all! Take that Odd Job!
@varanid9
@varanid9 2 жыл бұрын
Now, if only CZ would sell a semi version of this instead of that bloated, Rosie O'Donnell plastic version.
@OverTheShenanigans
@OverTheShenanigans 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you're going to do the full auto CZ 75 with the magazine foregrip during your CZ shoots.
@texas66
@texas66 2 жыл бұрын
Mag dump, remove magazine, turn to camera, closing comment......... then the sound of brass raining down! Seems Scorpion 2 kept the same ejection pattern as the original.
@bubblefish17
@bubblefish17 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Skorpion, I stop whatever I doing and click watch. :))))
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a VZ 61 in 30 super carry... 🤔
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be in my bunk...
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons whoah. It's not a spam bot account, its the real deal Ian Mccollum this time! 🙏
@StarkRaven59
@StarkRaven59 2 жыл бұрын
The most awesome thing about this in my opinion, is the slow motion. You can see the rate reducer holding the bolt back for a split second, and having seen the insides of the Skorpion from yesterday, it really highlights how the whole mechanism works.
@AllAboutSurvival
@AllAboutSurvival 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Trying that one out, it sure does a fantastic experience though!
@dickmajor4848
@dickmajor4848 2 жыл бұрын
Ian looks like a Call of Duty goon in this video lmao
@BV-fr8bf
@BV-fr8bf 2 жыл бұрын
Headline: "CZ announces production of a new PDW" after glowing firearms expert review!
@AzureWallace
@AzureWallace 2 жыл бұрын
IT'S KLOBBERIN TIME
@TakNuke
@TakNuke 2 жыл бұрын
Now we only need 9x18 and 9x17 for comparison.
@crimcrusader8459
@crimcrusader8459 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely comparable to the Micro Uzi or the Uzi Pro.
@realitycheck4158
@realitycheck4158 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this came in 9... Can I trade in my evo3 for this please?
@Mellowcanuck33
@Mellowcanuck33 2 жыл бұрын
2:44 lmao The skorpion gave him the puppy dog eyes. And he fell in love.
@UngoKast
@UngoKast 2 жыл бұрын
The mag dump had me in awe. Such a brilliant system for such an unassuming machine pistol.
@linkbond08
@linkbond08 2 жыл бұрын
The Klobb's bigger brother. And the guy she told you not to worry about.
@brucewilliams6292
@brucewilliams6292 2 жыл бұрын
How incredible that you got to see the CZ factory; thanks for taking us along!
@V4zz33
@V4zz33 2 жыл бұрын
The Scorpion is an Akimbo material, it makes me sad, that you didn't' do it.:(((
@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts
@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts 2 жыл бұрын
Well that is very interesting I didn't expect it to be so controllable. Seems to me the only thing that kept it from being adopted was the complexity of the design and the inability to attach optics
@oktayyildirim2911
@oktayyildirim2911 2 жыл бұрын
In the previous video, Ian showed the gun with an optic attached.
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 2 жыл бұрын
@@oktayyildirim2911 Which was a total kludge...
@oktayyildirim2911
@oktayyildirim2911 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewAMartin Yes, but it was capable of attaching optics.
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 2 жыл бұрын
@@oktayyildirim2911 Just because you can, doesn't mean you should... 😁
@oktayyildirim2911
@oktayyildirim2911 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewAMartin Still, saying it is unable to host an optic is untrue.
@muddyhotdog4103
@muddyhotdog4103 2 жыл бұрын
GIMME GIMME GIMME !!
@ChesapeakeWahido
@ChesapeakeWahido 2 жыл бұрын
So which is more fun: Skorpion or Shnelfuer (auto broomhandle because I’m sure I spelled that wrong)?
@tarmaque
@tarmaque 2 жыл бұрын
Since the M712 jumps around like a jitterbug competition, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Skorpion. But I've shot neither so my opinion means little.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Skorpion.
@enricopaolocoronado2511
@enricopaolocoronado2511 2 жыл бұрын
"Dear Santa..."
@badopinionsrighthere
@badopinionsrighthere 2 жыл бұрын
So, klobbering time is back on the menu. Neat!
@Ompasikom
@Ompasikom 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it compares to an HK MP5 type
@Doiteify
@Doiteify 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the Klobb
@therogers4432
@therogers4432 2 жыл бұрын
Wow... ^Your comment^ made me about 18yrs old again 😁👍, but sadly only for a fleeting moment... 😥
@Schrodingers_kid
@Schrodingers_kid 2 жыл бұрын
I wish handguns become legal in Ukraine so I could own one of these Beautiful thing
@craigthescott5074
@craigthescott5074 2 жыл бұрын
Still pretty fast even for a system with a RPM reducer. Ean I need a Video on the HK 770 rifle. It’s not a military rifle but it is based on the HK 91. It’s very hard to find any info on this rare rifle.
@Oyez10
@Oyez10 2 жыл бұрын
With such little real estate for bolt travel you would think it's ROF would be stratospheric. Has Ian covered what Czech voodoo they got going on inside that thing to keep the ROF manageable? Asking for a friend 🤣
@FelixstoweFoamForge
@FelixstoweFoamForge 2 жыл бұрын
He has. See the previous vid on this weapon. Very very clever bit of design.
@Oyez10
@Oyez10 2 жыл бұрын
@@FelixstoweFoamForge ah he covered exactly that yesterday! Cool thanks!
@HapaBoi61
@HapaBoi61 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else really wishing CZ continued production on this?
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune 2 жыл бұрын
That final mag dump was impressive! Plenty of hits by the sound of it!
@josch614
@josch614 2 жыл бұрын
I sense, the Scorpion was quite close to a "hehehe" at the end... :-) nice!
@shooteveryday1841
@shooteveryday1841 2 жыл бұрын
Czechpoint- you know what to do….
@Salamander6969
@Salamander6969 2 жыл бұрын
Always loved the Skorpion’s looks; better to know Ian endorses its performance too.
@marckroll9544
@marckroll9544 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a novice, but this looks well balanced, and very comfortable to shoot nothing awkward about it at all.
@astrayadventurer4450
@astrayadventurer4450 2 жыл бұрын
Yelp I want yet another thing I'll likely never own.
@ErulianADRaghath
@ErulianADRaghath 2 жыл бұрын
I think this weapon is still great for special forces as a PDW/Compact SMG. Slap a red-dot on top, add a light/laser combo in front, and you have a great firearm. Granted, we have much more great compact SMGs now than in the early 2000s, so it is obsolete by that regard.
@veins91
@veins91 2 жыл бұрын
Church Bells ringing at the end was really glorious
@frenchfrey65
@frenchfrey65 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure this joke has been made already, but you can tell the 9x19 was better engineered as it's not dropping shell casings on Ian's head, lol
@sebbyadams1159
@sebbyadams1159 2 жыл бұрын
Always loved your videos Ian , you’re an amazing role model!
@stevendeamon
@stevendeamon 2 жыл бұрын
Skorpion does amazing. Everybody on the internet: WOW! Surprised pikachiu!
@davids11131113
@davids11131113 2 жыл бұрын
Expecting harsh recoil from a 9mm? Ok 🤷🏻‍♂️
@afriendofafriend5766
@afriendofafriend5766 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a forgotten weapon, but a very fun one for sure.
@Meerschwein
@Meerschwein 2 жыл бұрын
I't would be nice to compare this weapon to a semi PCC of the same size. + I would think the Law Enforcement Version of the Evo 3 would outperform the gen2 scorpion. Even the Evo2 full auto vs. the Evo 3 semi
@Arkeo36
@Arkeo36 2 жыл бұрын
Best real world pdw yet
@dreamingflurry2729
@dreamingflurry2729 2 жыл бұрын
Hm...you truly need to make a movie: "Ian and the gun factory" (so like Charly and the Chocolate Factory, but for guns and Ian :D ) ps: Maybe come to Oberndorf am Neckar (Heckler & Koch!) next? Germany is "around the corner" from where CZ is (at least it is for people from the US, where they have states the size of countries!)
@floridasoldat
@floridasoldat 2 жыл бұрын
I love Czech guns
@jussayinmipeece1069
@jussayinmipeece1069 2 жыл бұрын
Casually invents a new way to deploy your wire stock: " we'll start on semi auto"? . Well wait just a minute, let's see that again if you don't mind will you.
@ke6ziu
@ke6ziu 2 жыл бұрын
He's wearing a Sarma Windproof Smock! I have 2 (had!)! Great jacket! With a fleece under jacket, that Smock is very warm! I use one in the PNW, and I'm cozy! Shout-out to Varusteleka!
@jozefhubacek4518
@jozefhubacek4518 9 ай бұрын
I had in czeslowak army All kind of czech weapons , l used IT very often, l Can say scorpions IS ofcourse a hybrid gun , AS pistol not compares to pistol, AS mashine gun not compares to mashine gun AS sa vz 58, Scorpion IS very fragile, but its true Czechs have very good personal weapons.
@f4ust85
@f4ust85 2 жыл бұрын
Epic gun. Any early 1990s Central European hit squad would wear a mullet and a Skorpion.
@seguridadcorporativa2419
@seguridadcorporativa2419 2 жыл бұрын
It could be a good alternative for police/military forces in places with High Risk in Patrol areas , With a modifcation of 3x1 before Full-auto. There are a lot of new Submachine guns and small carbines selling in the civilian market , but so expensive; I suppose that with engineering support a few modifications made, it would be a great and REAL useful gun for patrol units, maybe as a secundary arm, with 25 round magazines even.
@XanthosAcanthus
@XanthosAcanthus 2 жыл бұрын
Man, if it's that nice with the folding wire stock, the traditional stock version must be an absolute dream.
@NACAM42
@NACAM42 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, gotta keep the wire stock for the Goldeneye nostalgia.
@XanthosAcanthus
@XanthosAcanthus 2 жыл бұрын
@@NACAM42 absolutely. It's too iconic. Like how they made an uzi with a fixed stock, but why would you want that?
@lukemaddox7306
@lukemaddox7306 2 жыл бұрын
Heat wave in the UK, Heat wave in the USA, Heat wave in Africa. Somehow you found the coldest place in July??
@floydvaughn9666
@floydvaughn9666 2 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming that, unlike the 61, the brass doesn't fly straight up? And come straight back down. Good thing too. 9mm vs 32 hail storm.
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 2 жыл бұрын
yOu cAn'T cOnTrOlL fUlL aUtO, iT's uSeLeSs fOr sElF dEfeNse! An intellectual: See Exhibit A
@davidbenner2289
@davidbenner2289 2 жыл бұрын
I can see a use for it.
@danieljob3184
@danieljob3184 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone at CZ explored making a Skorpion that fires 5.7mm yet? Coz I have a few old sketches!? 🤓🤪
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