Q&A 56: Travel, Elbonian Snipers, and Contradictions

[@terry7907]

“Russia has some visa issues and diplomatic issues right now”. Ian, the master of understatement.

[@rustem123ful]

I think it is specifically the issue for US citizens and it has been going on for some years now.

[@USS_Grey_Ghost]

I want to go to Russia to see the only Mouse tank in the world and the only Gigantic Thor and Odin self propelled mortars left both in the same Museum

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@USS_Grey_Ghost so do I. Kubinka should be a destination for all tread-heads.

[@DrBreezeAir]

@@USS_Grey_Ghost I hope someday we'll be past the political turmoils, and you'll be able to come here.

[@christopherreed4723]

Add currency issues to that list. The Ruble to Dollar exchange rate is pretty spectacular. A PSO scope with a dollar price of just under $600.- translates to over 3000 Rubles, and when ordering, it's the Ruble amount your bank will see, not the Dollar amount. Which also brings us to the next entry... ...Trust issues. Any charge identifiable as originating in Russia is liable to have your bank declare a DEFCON alert. Expect to spend some time on the phone explaining that the charge *was* legitimate, and could they, pretty please with whipped cream and a cherry on top, unlock the card, your account, and the drawer with the silverware. So, yeah...Russia's got a few issues right now. I'm sure we missed several. And...what *does* one use Kopecks for these days, anyway?

[@samuelfisher8195]

At some point you’re gunna have to enter a two gun match as an Elbonian infantryman

[@009013M3]

The ideal thing in keeping with the Elbonian sabotage theme would be to have Ian and Karl each create a themed "Elbonian sabotage" loadout for each other picked from the shared pool of equipment, and see who can screw the other over the most.

[@robnunya572]

Why does this comment not have 1000 likes?

[@jimbo5896]

That sabotage match idea would be a lot of fun

[@TacticalTerry]

I foresee a S333 Thunderstruck pistol and maybe a Remington 770.

[@freedomfalcon]

Agreed!!!

[@ravenslaves]

The proud nation of Elbonia doesn't need the fancy sniper weapons of the West. Our proud sniper corps has always distinguished itself with honor as one of the most highly decorated units in the World. To see them standing in ranks in their bright orange battle dress uniforms with their gleaming displays of wound badges, shining in the Sun, has inspired the entire nation for over 400 years.

[@R281]

I'll visit your glorious country one day...

[@letsburn00]

Just don't ask them how they feel about left handed shooters. They have some backwards views...

[@davidbrennan660]

Functionality is not the form required in its firearm development features that are central to a Nation forged in Mud and IT Support.

[@dscrappygolani7981]

In view of your steadfast defense of the Elbonia sniper corps, I hereby nominate you for the presidency of Elbonia, and demand that your bedazzling eminence is crowned with the world renowned pineapple and plum crown of the royal house of Elbonia.

[@jic1]

@@letsburn00 While we all know about Elbonia's unjust persecution of the 'sinister', ironically all Elbonian snipers shoot left-handed. The officer who wrote the manual was left-eye dominant, and it stuck.

[@stephenduffy5406]

Elbonian snipers account for bullet drop, by mounting the scope under the barrel.

[@calvingreene90]

Face palm and laughter. 👍😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

[@john-paulsilke893]

Or they shoot their guns upside down.

[@w.callens1629]

Some say they minimize the reflection of the scope by mounting them backwards.

[@calvingreene90]

@@w.callens1629 Some say some really stupid things.

[@w.callens1629]

@@calvingreene90 do your best with the worst is the way of Elbonia

[@jrs4516]

that fact that ian doesn't even know the correct name of "raid: shadow legends" fill's me with hope.

[@araknidude]

you mean Raid’s Shadow Legend?

[@jic1]

@@araknidude That's the parody version that advertises cockroach bait.

[@PaletoB]

The legend of the shadow raid....

[@vaclav_fejt]

Or, "Raid: Shadow Warrior", as known by Karl.

[@chrisspencer6502]

Do forgotten weapons know the term sponsorship?

[@BatCaveOz]

I suspect that the significant reduction in weight between the Thompson vs the M3 Grease Gun endeared the M3 to anyone that had to carry one in the field.

[@ZGryphon]

Getting away from the Thompson's horrendous length of pull was probably welcome to anyone shorter than six-foot-four, as well, even if the grease gun does have just a crappy wire stock. :)

[@Tunkkis]

​@@ZGryphon At least that wire stock doesn't have an absurd amount of drop and a ridiculously sloped butt plate.

[@dvogonen]

According to the museum database of Sweden's Royal Armoury (Livrustkammaren), the museum has two Kalthoff rifles in their inventory (inventory number 3646 (31:16) and 3644 (1334)) . You might be able to visit them and have a look at the rifles if you communicate with them in advance. They have some 30 000 items in their collection, so the rifles are probably not on display. Due to Swedish history, the collection is especially rich on items and weapons from the 17th century.

[@nunyabeeswax2575]

@Forgotten Weapons

[@retroicdescent]

That's awesome, I'd love to see Ian do a video on those rifles. Thank you for posting this!

[@swagnut9864]

Gotta get this comment pushed up the chain so Ian can see this

[@henninghesse9910]

Are you sure these are the repeaters? Or just normal flintlocks?

[@18robsmith]

Additional to your selection of the M14 isn't it the case that the Elbonians received the "complete" 128 page manual. Their top brass read the first few pages.... only later was it discovered that pages 33-127 were blank, and these pages covered the re-assembly and re-bedding of these guns. Page 128 being the outside back cover, which any fool could see was just a printer's aberration page.

[@OhioTravelswithKris]

Have a great day

[@gort0338]

You too, friend

[@jameslawrie3807]

Ian's the first ever person who's said the words "I'd like to visit Lithgow".

[@ackshually404]

"Raid shadows legend" I love that he is so disinterested in stupid sponsors that he gets their name slightly wrong. I really appreciate your dedication to keeping this ad free and community based. Thank you ian

[@b79holmes]

I think a future t-shirt run needs to include an 'Elbonian Armorers' shirt

[@neilmackay5655]

"we are the busiest arm of the service. Because some idiot keeps buying crap weapons. It's like a conspiracy or something"

[@Vilamus]

Regarding machine guns, I think a unit of price should be "Lago Aliens", as in, affordable machine guns are about 2-3 Lago Aliens.

[@onpsxmember]

*Laugo. Not a bad unit at all.

[@john-paulsilke893]

And often come with extra gun parts like the Alien.

[@john-paulsilke893]

For example the FN BRNO with its extra barrels, magazines and recoil springs. Similar unit of price.

[@Vilamus]

@@john-paulsilke893 I thought the BRNO was cheaper than the Alien. Whoah.

[@onpsxmember]

@@Vilamus Huge difference between the full steel "Field Pistol" for up to 5k, but the one you see the most is the BRNO PSD, which is the polymer frame version around 1500k $.

[@kingneptune5448]

Ian throwing 40mm shade at RAID made my day.

[@MTimWeaver]

Re Polymer rifle ammo: When I ran Practical Tactical back in the day, I obtained some of the polymer cased ammo that was being reintroduced into the market, around 2006-07 time frame. I think the mfg was Natec. Anyway, I ran it during one of the annual Independent Day Rifle Matches at Rio Salado. It was 114 that day. Most of the day, it ran fine up until the last stage with the concrete 'bunker' to shoot from, then a shoot house. By the time i got into the shoothouse, I got to the second target and it just went click. I did a tap/rack/bang, and same. Locked the slide back, dropped the mag, inserted a fresh mag, and same thing. Looking into the ejection port, I could see the tip of the round trying to enter the chamber, but wasn't. I cleared the gun, walked off the range to a safe area and checked the chamber...the polymer had gotten so hot, the extractor ripped the brass base off the case. I had to wait about 10-15 mins for it to cool enough to pop the plastic case out with a cleaning rod. I gave the ammo away the next day (I hadn't been charged for it). Gave the recipient a "use this for plinking ammo, not for competitions or defense" and was done with it. It was great, right up until it wasn't. :)

[@TimberwolfCY]

Hm, understandable....but that was already 15 years ago. That said it will have to be on the market for quite some time before I consider it, either.

[@iJacker]

“You’ll never see a Raid Shadow Legend ad on here” ha! Ian you’re a badass

[@jubuttib]

I like to think he even said the name of the game wrong on purpose. =)

[@Likexner]

Praised be He!

[@aaronhrk]

You have to get to the Australian War Memorial Ian. My best mate is a senior curator there and can get you behind the scenes access. It is an amazing museum with a fantastic collection of many extremely rare artefacts ❤

[@boingkster]

Gotta mention Singleton base here. They have a great museum and excellent exhibits out of view, hundreds of items ranging from arcane pistols to modern issue rifles.

[@AgentTasmania]

An intact original A7V. More Nick's field but still the crowning jewel

[@IceWolfLoki]

Fort Nepean in Victoria might also be of interest to Ian given it's WW1 and WW2 history.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

@@AgentTasmania Didn't they send that back to Brisbane? Either way, I wouldn't mind crawling around the vehicles in the reserve collection, I didn't get a chance to when I visited back a few years ago. I suspect the replica A7V in Munster is more filmable anyway.

[@anlizheng6134]

On the "Which will be replaced first, 9mm or 5.56mm?" question, don't we see the answer already in historical terms? 9mm Parabellum has been around since 1901, when military rifles were generally firing full-power 7-ish millimetre cartridges. Since then, military rifle cartridges first went "intermediate" by shortening but keeping around the same calibre (8mm Short, 7.62x39), and then to "small calibre" rounds like 5.56mm, 5.45mm, 5.8mm and even 4.7mm in the H&K G11. Meanwhile, the 9x19mm cartridge has soldiered on, becoming steadily more popular. Rifle ammunition development has historically been much more dynamic than pistol, presumably because rifles are more important militarily than pistols, as Mr McCollum points out.

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz I think the counter argument is then that we NATO has already expressed a desire to replace 9mm and officially recognized 5.7x28 as a NATO standard caliber as of this year. It probably won't be adopted by the US in the near future since our military got a new standard 9mm pistol fairly recently, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did get replaced.

[@marcusott5054]

I'm guessing the availability and price nowadays also keeps 9mm alive too. Next to 22lr I think 9mm is the chapest ammo available (?)

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

@@marcusott5054 I would say it's likely that 9mm is so cheap specifically because it's the most common ammo used by militaries worldwide, economies of scale at work. I'd wager that if we did make the switch to 5.7x28 over time the civilian market would adopt it more and more as well and that ammo price would go down. Maybe not as much, I don't know if having a bottle-necked cartridge adds a significant amount of machine time and therefor cost, but other costs do decrease with increased production and sales

[@mnades]

With the current US trials and development of the 6.8 cartridge with a new rifle, but the replacement of the sidearm with another 9mm, seems to support Ian's answer here

[@WhatIfBrigade]

Yes. And .45ACP lasted a lot longer than .30-06.

[@tofu6284]

Honestly I'm like 40 seconds in and Ian might just be the funniest person I've seen.

[@tofu6284]

Also I got here when there were only 5 other comments, COOL!

[@dscrappygolani7981]

😐

[@darthhodges]

If advance primer ignition was relevant to submachine gun designs like the grease gun or UZI out of battery detonations would be FAR more common. In fixed firing pin guns the firing pin is in physical contact with the primer long before the case is far enough into the chamber to safely detonate it. It's not until something tries to stop movement of the cartridge that the firing pin applies enough force to set it off.

[@Angrymuscles]

Ian roasts Raid Shadow Legends in the first twenty seconds. Priceless. Addendum: E'Un McCollum strikes again! Furthering the damage done to Elbonia in the best traditions of the disco decade.

[@jic1]

48:39 You missed a circle for your Venn diagram: the cowboy shooters. They frequently use single-shot rifles for side matches.

[@nichevo1]

Shiloh Sharps at 800m, nice.

[@ronschramm9163]

I have, from my time in the US military, an original XM24/M14 Sniper Manual issued in 1969. It is an interesting read.

[@ScottKenny1978]

I'd love to see a scan of it!

[@coco26006]

You know when I heard the elbonian snipers question I was hard expecting the Mosin PU's to be deployed to elbonia because "think of the surplus prices and quantity." (and by PU's I mean just any old Mosin that they found off the shelf and stuck a scope on)

[@isaiahcampbell488]

The Mosin PU to my understanding had a curved bolt handle that allowed you to actually use the gun as intended. To my understanding if you stuck a scope on a standard Mosin, you wouldn't be able to get the straight bolt handle in the open position because the optic would be in the way...which would be so bad even Elbonia would have to pass it up. Unless you have them assembly instructions and the rifles and scopes packaged separately and then not answer the customer service call.

[@dksdg]

Funny fact steel is actually made usually in 6” x 6” square bars chopped 20ft long, then rolled into whatever it needs to be. Round, square, rectangle.

[@Chilly_Billy]

Thanks to the Petreon crowd for saving us from Raid Shadow Legends ads. You are heroes to us all!

[@tolarpowell5069]

Re: open bolt SMG accuracy, the only burst I've fired through an Uzi on full auto, I took out an inspection sticker with my first round at 100 yards. The inspection sticker was my point of aim. Perhaps it was pure luck, but that's what happened. And, no, I'm not some anti vehicle inspection anarchist. I was on a SWAT Team, and a wrecker company donated a junker for playtime on range day. Keep up the good work.

[@76horsepower]

A good example of a firearm with a non-existent locking principle is the Savage 1907. While I really like the pistols, the rotation of the bullet acting against the barrel grooves in no way locks the breech. At best, it’s a minute delay, but I doubt even that is the case. My guess is you could file off the locking lug and the pistols would work exactly the same as simple blow-back.

[@calvingreene90]

The one-off Ethiopian Oddities could be official army armorer at the end of a long supply line making sure he has a last ditch gun for every cook and clerk. My money would be on Bandit guns but that includes guerrillas fighting against the Italians. Edit corrected auto corrected to farmer to the correct armorer.

[@brasstard7.627]

There is a video here on youtube of Eritrean rebels making homemade SKS stocks to repair damaged rifles, not quiet as extensive as the recent imports Ian has shown but one day someone will wonder why some SKS have weird stocks and wonder if the government did it

[@catpainblackudder9118]

I'm assuming the boat stamp for Jersey was the channel islands, a great place chock full of history, especially for the ww2 buff with the war tunnels along with the various bunkers and coastal defence batteries.

[@jic1]

Since the Channel Islands aren't technically part of the UK they have different gun laws, so there may have been a collection he went there to see.

[@catpainblackudder9118]

@@jic1 the guy who runs a museum in a bunker on the nw coast has a decent collection some of which I believe he shoots. He also saves the cartridge cases which he chucks in the dunes around the bunker for kids to find. My 6 year old was chuffed with a couple of .223 and a 9mm case convinced he had something from "the Germans"

[@skepticalbadger]

@@jic1 Northern Ireland also has different gun laws but IS part of the UK. The common denominator is that neither is governed by English or Scots law (which are different but tend to copy each other's homework).

[@51WCDodge]

@@jic1 They are part of the United Kingdom, in fact as any Crapaud will tell you, we went over to the Mainland with our Duc in 1066, so we own England. The Island is a Bailiwick, which gives the right to raise your own law and taxation.

[@IceWolfLoki]

@@51WCDodge They're not part of the UK they are Crown dependencies because the British Monarch is the successor to the Dukes of Normandy and they make up the last territory of the Duchy that remained under the control of the Dukes of Normandy (who were forced to relinquish the title under treaty) rather than the Kingdom of France and it's successors. In practise the Crown vests some of it's authority in relation to the Channel Islands to the UK government and much of it to the Channel Islands themselves.

[@johngray3860]

I built my own iteration of the WWSD Rifle. It came out to 5 pounds, 14 ounces with an optic. I love that thing. It makes me giggle every time I pick it up!

[@ScottKenny1978]

When I got my Troy XM177E2 clone. everyone in the shop kinda lost their mind at how light it is.

[@flightlesschicken7769]

What kind of optic, because that sounds like it might be lighter than an M1 Carbine and those are already basically feathers

[@snarkymatt585]

Australia would be a short trip pretty much a visit to the small arms factory at Lithgow, the war memorial museum in Canberra and Dandenong to visit Warwick Firearms to check out their WFA1 straight pull rifle and that's it really.

[@letsburn00]

Don't tell him, we need him to come here. He can go to the 50 BMG firing ranch up north from Perth. The reason for this is exclusively to get a viewer Meetup. My local gun shop/range will sell you one of you've got the licence.

[@jic1]

Possibly some private handgun collections? Or maybe a movie armourer with some interesting Australian military or civilian semi-autos? I mean, he found a British private collector with some interesting recent military sniper rifles, you guys must have *something?*

[@terry7907]

He would still spend more time there than in NZ-unless he wanted to visit breweries and wineries. Steinlager Natural is my all time favorite beer

[@jic1]

@@terry7907 He's more of a Spirits guy, but I think there's at least a couple of distilleries in New Zealand, so it should work out OK.

[@boingkster]

Singleton military base in New South Wales has a good museum, and a great firearms collection with all manner of stuff - jezails, muskets, STG43's, modern arms and even a gold plated AK seized by SAS troops. Seriously, there's some cool stuff here if you go looking.

[@DerekIcelord]

RE: Single shot/bolt gun matches. To give a little more perspective on how small that Venn Diagram overlap is, at Desert Brutality 2021 of the 146 competitors, only 5 opted to shoot in Classic Division (Classic is limited to WWII and earlier designs). One used a BAR as his main rifle, and I think 1 or 2 of the others used M1 Garands. A bolt gun match is something that sounds really cool, but in practice very few actually do it.

[@ianbruene1529]

This was a very good Q&A, even by Forgotten Weapons standards.

[@TommyVee63]

FWIW, my first exposure to your work was due to stumbling upon the compilation videos on Amazon, but once I was hooked I never went back --- your videos here on YT give me my necessary daily fix.

[@NamFlashb4cks]

That dig at rAIDS shadow legends instantly after the start of the video for their general scummy business was perfection

[@joetaylor486]

I have always enjoyed these Q&A's, Ian. As a Brit, I can fully endorse the Royal Armouries, that I live about 65 miles away from. Table and range comparison of L1A1 SLR as tweaked by Enfield, versus FAL as fielded by the Argentinians in the Falklands Conflict?

[@maxgood4361]

Just want to say Thank You for your continued excellence in providing information to us via your videos. Wishing You and Your Loved Ones a Very Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and a Blessed 2022 for your adventures.

[@mjfan653]

if you go to finland and specifically helsinki, its an hours trip by boat over the finnish gulf to estonia and it's capital tallinn. it is notable because it has a conserved city centre fron the 16-17 century. so that "old town" actually still has a city defence wall around it, and whole streets full of buildings built before columbus even crossed the atlantic. for any medieval stuff its a wonderful experience, and you can also visit an ex soviet country and see a few interesting guns. for example the arsenal SMG

[@dtgs4502]

In regards to the WWSD balance, it can be quantified. When I was changing parts on my own rifle I just found the center of mass and multiplied that by the distance to my wrist to get the torque required to hold it up. Even accounting for differing bone structure wouldn't be that difficult since you can just make the grip itself the arbitrary fulcrum.

[@allanbador7316]

These Q&A’s are so much good information. Keep it up

[@johnstacy7902]

Happy Festivus everyone!!!

[@hellomynameis2767]

The IDF museum next to Jaffa train station is outstanding. They actually have panzer iv and panther tanks captured from the Syrians in the six day war and a massive small arms weapon display including every ww1, ww2 machine gun you can think of.

[@hellomynameis2767]

@@s.marcus3669 I doubt it closed. It’s a national historic site and ran by the IDF. Ill ask my family over there for you to see what’s up.

[@standardtoaster10000]

If you end up coming to New Zealand I bet there are enough shooters here to get a brutality style event organized, IPSC is popular enough that there are a surprising number of clubs with decent ranges.

[@williamprince1114]

I think Spain would be priority as their history is fading away. There are still probably executives of Llama, & Star still around to get a first hand history from. Argentina is a nation that many do not think of but has a rich history as well

[@rogerwennstrom6677]

Good call there - Spain was a country that also cropped up in the back of my mind... Belgium is another no-brainer but I assume Ian has been there already and I've forgotten about it :)

[@michaelwright2986]

Countries to visit: ? former Czechoslovakia? That would mean the Czech Republic, but would there also be interesting things in Slovakia?

[@ScottKenny1978]

I'm sure that's on his list.

[@kibicz]

When did he mention it? Must have missed that one.

[@SecomputersCoNz1]

Happy to put you up here in Wellington. New Zealand

[@wacojones8062]

Open bolt vs. Closed bolt for weapons has a lot to do with heat build-up and ammo cooking off. The more airflow through the chamber between bursts the better. It can make a lot of difference in safety. I have seen two M60 Machinegun incidents on the same night fire exercise with one cartridge into a trachea and the other into a left arm. Both open feed tray cookoffs. Both due to incompetent officers not having spare weapons, barrels and cooldown procedures in place. White hot barrels on several guns that night.

[@edwalmsley1401]

That blue plastic 7.62×51 training ammunition has a metallic case head and a polymer body/projectile, but again much lower pressure

[@jamestarbet9608]

Reising magazines are horribly expensive currently and difficult to find in quantity. After about a year of searching, I finally found a little 12 rounder that was under $200 USD. Repros are only available in 30 rounds, and are themselves bringing about the same as WWII originals. If you are looking to get some magazines, I recommend converting M3 mags or 3d printing them (as the 3d print tech has increased so much in quality)

[@pokemaster123ism]

Honestly, the Johnson seems like the better rifle. It's still .30-06, so you don't have to worry about ammo, it doesn't need lubricated/waxed cartridges, and it uses 1903 Springfield clips. The ammo issue seems like the biggest reason that if the Garand didn't ,exist, the Johnson would have been adopted

[@slowpokebr549]

So on one side of Agincourt we have Henry V's army and on the other we have the Elbonians. Who prevails?

[@WhatIfBrigade]

I think if you did muzzleloading brutality you'd want to mix in some tomahawk throwing and ramp up the physical challenges. Start close, shoot two single shot pistols at knockdown targets Then throw a kettlebell for 50 meters then load and fire your rifle. Then drag a sled back to the 10 meter mark and throw a tomahawk.

[@tomandtinadixon]

Yup. I modify and fireform Lebel brass to shoot in a center fire converted 1869 Vetterli. Oh the humanity!

[@obiwankenobi2749]

I can imagine a 1960's ad for the m16 ending in " YOU CAN TELL ITS MATEL, ITS SWELL!"

[@scottyost3318]

TruVelocity and SIG are the two companies behind the "half brass"/polymer ammunition.

[@sharpright6887]

Amazon was how I got introduced to your channel.

[@Panzermeister36]

Thank you for answering my question. Hope you have a good holiday season, Ian. Take care!

[@effynme]

Good morning Ian. Thank you

[@FIREBRAND38]

I remembered when the Army transitioned from the M21 to the M24 and that aluminum bedding block was a game changer. The Army had closed the National Match Armorer's School at Fort Benning that trained personnel to re-bed the glass bedded M21 stocks while retaining them in the inventory. I'd also include the ART II scope that replaced the legendary AR TEL (aka ART I) scope post-Vietnam that completely screwed up many a sniper's life having to use that. I really wish that someone would offer a good quality ART I reproduction with no "improvements".

[@robertkb64]

On the WWSD criticism: that’s almost word for word what I said when I built mine over the summer when the uppers were still unavailable. I paired the polymer lower with a Larue upper, and it’s noticeably lighter than even my AR pistol - let alone anything else. My wife had the same comments on a Christmas - she’s been shooting an LMT MWS in .308 and has been asking for something lighter for sub-1k yard shooting and the WWSD fit the bill perfectly - her rifle is more accurate than most match ammo, and that’s pretty big praise for both your design and the team who put it together.

[@MrKronikDeception]

Thumbs up for no Raid Shadow Legends

[@sebathadah1559]

I wouldn't wipe my butt with that game if it was presented to me in toilet paper form.

[@collind.5207]

I think I’ve been a huge fan of yours for about 3.5 years now. Your channel has grown so much it’s crazy. I have grown so much its crazy ahaha Anyways, keep doing what you love, man. Greetings, from your city neighbor, Phoenix 🌵

[@haldorasgirson9463]

Open bolt submachine gun, sheds heat better in burst mode than a closed bolt version. The breach is open any time you are not firing which lets air flow through the barrel. Cyclical rate of fire is improved.

[@broadstken]

I talked to a WW2 vet years ago who was part of the occupation forces immediately after the surrender of Japan. He told me about how the American forces gathered up every gun they could find, and after they took the ones they wanted as souvenirs the rest were taken to collection points, where the soldiers who ran those took whatever they wanted, and then the rest were loaded onto barges and dumped in the sea. So apparently there are some rather large piles of guns on the bottom of a few different harbors in Japan

[@liljimmygreen]

Great video thanks and Merry Christmas

[@matg919]

I’m jealous, I live 30mins from the royal armouries at Leeds but you get to see all the cool guns not on display.

[@rodroper211]

General Sir John Monash,an Australian, is considered by many to be the father of combined arms after his efforts during WWI (1914-1918) on the Western Front. WWI saw the rise of revolutionary technology such as the machine gun, tank, and aircraft. first properly used at The Battle of Hamel

[@clarkogles3289]

Regarding the replacement of 5.56 I think with the new adoption of the xm5 I would love to see an arms room style for future soldiers like we see in say Sweden, using the m4 and xm5 when each are appropriate or even having them integrated in to the same platoons. Assault teams armed with m4s and fixing teams armed with the xm5

[@haldorasgirson9463]

M14 sniper rifles. YES! I remember all the worship these got back in the 70's and 80's in the civilian gun press.

[@speedythree]

Regarding the question on half-brass cartridge cases: I can remember shotgun shells that were half-brass and half-cardboard; I doubt that we will ever see that with pistol and rifle ammunition!

[@tarmaque]

I remember those too. In fact, I have a bunch of them in 16Ga for a shotgun I rarely shoot. (My Dad bought them in the 70s'.) Somewhere around here I think I've got some all brass shotgun shells too. Just the cases. They aren't loaded ammunition anymore.

[@mpetersen6]

@@tarmaque One time period where we might have seen a brass/paper rifle case is post ACW in black powder single shot rifles. Would a case in 45-XX have worked. I can see where water proofing would be an issue. Plus could the cases be treated so they are combustible leaving only the brass base for extraction. Denying any hostiles the possibility of reloaded cases. One issue I see is bottle mech cases. And yes I remember cellulose shot gun shells. And at the time people complained about the new fangled plastic shells.

[@tarmaque]

@@mpetersen6 There have been many paper patched centerfire cartridges, from the 45-70 series to the 577-450 Martini Henry, and even down to smokless powder cartridges like the .303 Savage. Even modern reloaders sometimes use paper patches when using cast lead bullets in modern cartridges like .357 Magnum and even .308 Winchester.

[@509Gman]

I’ve got some cardboard hulled 20ga rounds sitting around here somewhere.

[@jasonirwin4631]

You should consider adding south korea, Taiwan and italy to the visit list. South korea and taiwan are probably the only place to find north Korean and Chinese firearms. And while this channel is mostly focused on small arms japans naval history is well preserved and something viewers may find interesting

[@bramsltd]

Have you ever heard of the Pattern Room in the Uk? It is perfect for you. It’s been a while since I saw it. I hope it still exists. This is where the UK gets every firearm in the world that they think is noteworthy.

[@benjaminshropshire2900]

Regarding high pressure rounds; take a look at some of the naval gunnery. Some of them have to do multi part pre-stressed barrel construction to avoid hitting the yield strain of the barrel wall on the very first round, which would results in barrel lives in the single digest of rounds. It turns out that you literally can't avoid that issue regardless of how thick the barrel is.

[@arnoldfero816]

The firearms museum in Lithgow, Australia is fantastic. You're going to love it.

[@duanequam7709]

Great video. Thanks

[@davidhansen5067]

Patreon patron eagerly awaiting the eventual German and Austrian trips...

[@TacoSallust]

Ian's housecoat is SUPER FLY. I love it!

[@alexprokhorov407]

As a Russian, I personally invite you to visit the Tula plant, Izhevsk, and Barnaul. We can go to the Altay Mountains and watch bears riding tricycles.

[@kaymarx9677]

...Okay, as cool as the arsenals are, I wanna see the bears more.

[@jameswhitaker1324]

The other thing with stamped vs milled is that with stamped, you’re not turning most of the metal into floor sweeping, no matter what the alloy is.

[@stephendavies923]

Thanks as always Ian, but no Whisky? Your throat must have been very dry by the end. Have a great Christmas and New Years.

[@iandegraff3472]

A really stinky, by which I mean, dirty, cheaty, choice for a bolt-action in a 2-gun match would be an Ishapore 2A/2A1 in 7.62 with the the 12-round magazine. Apparently, you can turn the things into a "tanker" or even Mk5-esque carbine with the right bits. (According to Wikipedia, anyways.)

[@cmdrcriton]

The original ar 15 contract rifles are extremely light. I actually had one issued to my unit during gulf War 1. Man I loved that thing.

[@eprohoda]

Thank you- very perfect footage~ have a good day-Forgotten~

[@genericpersonx333]

0:57:14 - Which will be dropped first, 9mm or 5.56mm? I can concur that 9mm Parabellum is mostly safe from replacement at this point. The primary users in a military context with practical concerns are armed military law enforcement and security personnel, be it Shore Patrol or Military Police or whatever. They are just about the only people who carry pistols with an expectation to need to use them with lethal intent and they have long agreed that 9mm Parabellum is an excellent round for unarmored targets and lightly-armored targets. If an MP or other such person is in a warzone, they carry rifles anyway, so the inefficacy of 9mm against most military-grade body-armor is mostly irrelevant. Also, most soldiers hit by 9mm even donning military-grade body-armor are usually distracted and otherwise affected by the hit even if it is not immediately life-threatening. Long and short, the only people who really use pistols in the military mostly don't think they need better than 9mm and if they do, they want a rifle, not so much a different pistol caliber.

[@tankeroftheeast105]

And even in the police and security worlds, where 9mm is the primary cartridge, they've all agreed that 9mm is the way to go. Most of the threats won't have that nasty body armor, the barrier penetration really isn't needed, and all the firearms made for the cartridge are light and easy to carry/conceal. I frankly think that 9mm will stick around until the next big jump in firearms technology (comparable to the development of smokeless powder) and might even survive that!

[@ryanboyer5934]

A great video as always. Is it just me or did KZbin add a ton of extra ads to this one?

[@lt.danhooper1635]

32:54 "The bayonet is irrelevant in a 2-gun match" *flashbacks to Ian bayonetting a target in the Garand vs FG-42 2-gun match*

[@tommybronze3451]

I wish there was a raid shadow legends advert done by Ian :) "Did you know you can now buy .50 for your hero ? and at extra silver you can add a better trigger !" :D

[@graypatriot1299]

thank you

[@timblack6422]

Great point with the combined arms development evolution

[@Divenity]

Man I've been wanting you to look at a Kalthoff for a while, they're just so damned rare. I really wish someone made reproductions of them, they're really neat.

[@RayTX1337]

The idea with single shot rifles used in matches is neat. What about making it a single "big shot" like when you had people drop the mag at desert brutality. Like, stages set up for you to carry the rifle along, clear a handgun section with a revolver, then load and shoot a single round at a bonus target. Like that last dude running away. Or just have the rifle pre-loaded waiting at a certain location where the already winded shooter has to make that one big shot within 5 seconds.

[@ragnarragnarsson3128]

Winchester 1885 high wall vs martini Henry

[@MaaveMaave]

Re: small bore small case ammo. Check out 5.56P by Knox Engineering. It's a special powder in a super skinny case. No mention of pressure levels or barrel wear, I wonder why 😛 Also check 4.5 MKR, it's wildcat of .22 WMR for a prototype locked breech rifle. Very skinny small, and fast

[@minuteman4199]

Whether it is or not, I was taught that the Sterling SMG used "advanced primer ignition" during my army basic training in Canada.

[@skepticalbadger]

Yes, this is in the British Army armourer's manual, complete with a bullshit drawing by Derek Allsop. He's wrong :)

[@casfren]

just the start, you got me XDD did not expect it, and loved it :)

[@marcusott5054]

From Austria Vienna here: I'd love to get to meet Ian in person. I know Chieftain visited Military History Visualized at a Flakturm for a Q&A. I'm sure there's stuff to see at either the Military History Museum, or at Glock's in Deutschwagram.

[@BYLRPhil]

You should tour the Taurus factory in Brazil 😂🤣

[@marcbloom7462]

I think for Army procurement would have gone with the Johnson in .30-06 over the Pederson because of cost. Not just purchase but also maintenance costs and time.

[@ScottKenny1978]

That's certainly a consideration. I think that the Army *could* have made an argument for letting the MGs burn up the WW1 surplus .30-06 until that's gone and then rebarrel them to .276, let the BARs be converted to .276 immediately, and have all the basic infantry rifles in .276.

[@matthewmorales8184]

There is a company that makes a new hybrid case called shellshock technologies. Their hybrid is a stainless steel case body and an aluminum case head, very lightweight cases, I'd guess about half the weight of brass. The company has a few Q/C issues from time to time but when the cases work, they are pretty cool

[@mpetersen6]

I am of the opinion that if brawn brass cases had proven to be a more difficult technology to master. Then there may have been composite cases. Especially in the single shot military rifles post ACW. The problem I see is in the production of bottle necked cases similiar the Martini Henry. The only real options available for composite cases at the time would have been cellulose based or possibly iron. Although i think iron might not have been a good choice due possible metallurgical issues between the case and the chamber. I'll give an example although not iron. I used to rebuild machine tools. One project was for a 6 spindle indexing lathe. The chucks were hydraulically operated. They had a rotating coupling on the back end. My boss decided to have the spool and coupling body chromed. Not a good idea. The coupling is would lock right up.

[@ScottKenny1978]

I honestly expect that TrueVelocity will get their polymer cases figured out.

[@Girvo747]

I’d love for you to visit Australia too! Hope you get to soon :)