Former CIA Agent Mike Baker on China's 2049 Plan

This clip is taken from the Joe Rogan Experience #1617 with Mike Baker. open.spotify.com/episode/5g9c...

[@crawlscreepy]

Joe has only been in Texas less than a year but he’s already resting his gut on the table like a true southern gentleman

[@samanthab6642]

LOL

[@noobslayer10101]

That HGH gut Edit: reminds me of Hannibal Burress freestyling about how LeBron's hairline is fucked up from HGH. Someone should remix it to Rogans gut is fucked up from the HGH lol lol lol

[@henryasselin123]

This is gold

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TrT

[@dognamedforest7923]

LMFAO 💀💀

[@TKBTKB1122]

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” -Abraham Lincoln

[@factsdontcare4feelings24]

Ehhh. Yea it could be, but it’s what happens inside that allows what will happen from outside. This issue of promiscuity we are having and the feminizing of men is going to destroy America

[@bricksampson654]

@@factsdontcare4feelings24, Pussymerica, is our new reality. I agree with you 100%, we argue and fight so much amongst ourselves we ignore our true enemies. So many Americans blame one another for this ridiculous pandemic we are in and so many idiots show sympathy for the guilty criminalsI don’t get it man.

[@alexnaturalis1179]

Have you ever thought that the internal divide and quarreling could be fueled by rival nations? Cyber warfare is the new theater for military operations. If you control the internet you can control everything.

[@j.a.r.family2576]

Yes. Trump tried

[@carlosparedes1556]

Yea with Chinas help

[@mckcpaul1]

When the US started sending US manufacturing jobs to China back in the early 80s, you have to remember that this is going to help China build the size of their government, their infrastructure and their military, all because the elite in corporate America needed cheaper labor so they could manufacture their products and make bigger profits, 40 some years later and this what you get!

[@jzeerod]

yes. and the plan to destroy china has been on the books since the end of the korean war. for one thing, the USA has the most massive military in the world, battle tested, and proven, you dont build the largest most powerful army in the world then give up your hegemony without an epic battle.

[@chua2237]

White man success was build on stolen loot in the name of Jesus, said one Hindu.

[@miguelmendoza-vi5ep]

True that

[@jaykay415]

Yep. Supposedly they also thought it would lead to more democracy in China.

[@nikolamaricic3777]

that means Chinese new how to do things back then already , anyway they invented compass, paper , etc you think west need to teach them anything ?

[@KelvinAnthony5]

The problem we have is because Most people always taught that " you only need a good job to become rich " . These billionaires are operating on a whole other playbook that many don't even know exists.

[@ThomasHenry144]

Money invested is far better than money saved , when you invest it gives you the opportunity to increase your financial worth.

[@LucasSmith715]

" It is remarkable how much long term advantage people like us have gotten by trying to be consistently not stupid , instead of trying to be very intelligent."

[@CharlotteNatalie-rt1gj]

The wisest thing that should be on everyone mind currently should be to invest in different streams of income that doesn't depend on government paycheck, especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a time to invest in Stocks, Forex and Digital currencies.

[@SophiaAva327]

I also keep seeing lot's of people testifying about how they make money investing in Stock, Forex and Crypto Trade(Bitcoin) and I wonder why I keep loosing. Can anyone help me out or at least advice me on what to do.

[@LatoyiaCouch87]

Even with the right technique and assets some investors would still make more than others. As an investor, you should've known that by now that nothing beats experience and that's final. Personally I had to reach out to a stock expert for guidance which is how I was able to grow my account close to $35k, withdraw my profit right before the correction and now I'm buying again.

[@skateebee]

I hope these clips get longer and longer until they start posting the whole episodes again.

[@frezze6]

Sad to tell you that isnt going to happen due to the Spotify agreement.

[@Stowneyo]

Just go on Spotify doofus

[@spoils2873]

Spotify is free

[@khall187]

Watching JRE on Spotify SUCKS! Even something simple like rewinding 15 seconds is a pita

[@alexanderabdskyy]

@@khall187 100%

[@dethkon]

Remember: There’s no such thing as a “former” or “retired” CIA man.

[@LizzyLou]

Good point

[@jamarhatton]

That is a fact!

[@vvkth2500]

This guy looks like he's reaching his peak to be frank

[@insooleedat1asiandude]

Wym

[@martinlopez2816]

CIA members are also forced to not have families. They are servants to the dark cult till their deaths

[@moncorp1]

China thinks along the lines of 100 years and we think along the lines of 4 year election cycles. My bro-in-law works in the Texas National Guard along the border dealing with the invasion. He said for a couple of years they started seeing fighting age chinese men crossing the border illegally. Never women or kids, just fighting age men. Said in the past few months their numbers have increased 15 fold. Also said they're starting to catch fighting age Iranians too.

[@tiram12]

What does that mean then....theyvare coming coz ccp asked them? It's really terrible....

[@zeroguhravity]

Jesus Christ.

[@Stacksonem]

It’s crazy. My wife who worked at a hospital in NYC told me, there was a Chinese national working on medical research who was fired for being suspected of spying. Not sure what happened to him after that, but I found it to be bonkers that it’s happening.

[@starship3812]

Bro china is going replace US from current world order of super power to 2nd rank major power in next 25 yrs by year 2048/49 and they r doing so 10yrs ago there was no such big china issue now there is big china issue and this issue will increase until they r going to overtake US from super power in every field also in space sector. U know by 2050 there is going to be such a big boom in space industry and if US didn't stop apollo program in 1972 then by now as of 2023 US have a great opportunity to take giant leap in moon colonization and nobody will came close to US in sector but they didn't do it rather they waste money on saving Vietnam, Afghanistan from communist doing Iraq war, gulf War and Bosnia hergovania war and just they wasted money where they don't need to waste. If they utilize this money for moon colonization than nobody could overtake US in soace sector of atleast next 100 to 150 yrs but they don't do it and it seems like china will overtake US in space sector too in next 50 yrs and there will we space war between china and America to make colony on Mars but this time I think china will win the war not like 1969 space war when US wins the war.

[@KnowL-oo5po]

China is willing to spy that is what the Russians done

[@varunishere]

If an American does same in China, its is called being Patriot. Where you think Jet technology came from? Germany! Didn’t US steal that?

[@maazahmedpoke]

Neo McCarthyism

[@robertlee9712]

1000% happening Americas full of chinese workers there clever people

[@bennyboicreates3253]

The most amazing thing about Joe’s show is that he manages to make his guests seem like the host of their own podcast

[@eddie9244]

just 2 dudes having a conversation is all

[@ngud_gaming267]

The most amazing thing about Joes podcasts is how he still gets people on even though he's a huge hypocrite and ass kisser

[@knightofthesweat8034]

@@ngud_gaming267 elaborate...

[@Tang526]

Meh I’ll counter that and say only to ppl he looks up to. Theres many episodes where he overtalks

[@mattshepperson2807]

Beautiful

[@olchevy7983]

MADE IN CHINA on everything at every US store should had been a red flag.

[@breadman5048]

And whose fault is that - it’s not Chinas fault - it’s the multinational company who don’t care about American workers or economy and outsource all the jobs out there

[@maxamillion6958]

@@breadman5048 - Bingo.. This is ALL done by the hand of the Western banking cartels'. Nobody put a gun to our heads to move our manufacturing there, and take their loans. The China fearmongering is a foreign distraction to distract the American sheeple.

[@MinestroneOfSound]

@Dorn Weaver II You're damn right and, as a result, we are already honorary chinese

[@thomasreaves588]

What would happen if one day China refused to export to the USA. How would Amazon, WalMart, HomeDepot, Lowes, Target, Kohls, Nike, Apple IPhones...etc. survive under such a senario? What would happen to the US Stock Market?

[@glenkeating7333]

Yup. I live in Canada. I'm 60 years old. I can remember seeing the majority of merchandise saying "made in Canada". Alps because we are neighbours with the US , I often saw merchandise from there saying:" proudly made in the United States". Times have changed for the worst because of corporate greed. Sad.

[@mtgatutorials368]

I found and reported this state sponsored IT breach that was installed at a company I was consulting for back in 2016. I reported this to my supervisor, and they took it from there. Which lead to them doing nothing at all. It got blown under the rug.

[@PrimateSoul]

Also in Lenovo laptops supposedly and that sucks or kept it secret

[@TheBobbymcd]

your lucky they never sacked you or worse!...they dont like being exposed

[@mtgatutorials368]

Oh they did. My contact was being renewed due 50% less pay. I walked.

[@doughbroNZ]

I get that we need to be able to defend ourselves, but this notion that every country must ulitimately act in their best interests is keeping us butting heads eternally. Sometimes, that friction erupts into war.

[@danielleisrael]

What a stupid comment. Why would a country not act in its best interest? Different cultures and ideologies can not coexist. They haven’t throughout history and won’t in the future. The only way for wars to not break out is for everyone and every nation to completely agree on everything. That means communism but who decides? And that outcome is worse than eternal war.

[@bigchairmanmeow]

USA: Let's destroy our manufacturing sector and outsource it to China. USA a decade later: How did China became so rich? [Surprised Pikachu Face]

[@adonizi]

Globalists did that. They dont have allegiance to any nation.

[@dropoutentertainment210]

Fucking priceless

[@sparingpickle4918]

China is already in America. Deep in America. It’s called the democrat party. And idiots still vote for it.

[@jc-iv5yb]

@@sparingpickle4918 dawg, if u think it’s only the democratic party, u really don’t know how the government really works.

[@Q_QQ_Q]

CIA created china

[@GR-zn8je]

Joe has been hittin that good ol Texas bbq hard y’all

[@bigbaby9189]

Yeah he’s not thinner

[@snackz5181]

lmao first comment I see

[@1knight386]

Lol good call

[@Le_Petomane]

Its not good or old.

[@dannnyboyyyyy7877]

No wonder why everyone in that state is morbidly obese

[@Leuthen57]

5:31 A great point. That reflects on a variety of topics concerning them .

[@booreeto]

to me, the scariest part of this podcast is that they're talking about how bad it is to "steal" knowledge. Don't you think that there should be no need for anyone to try to steal something like that by bloody sharing the knowledge, information, beneficial data....? Stop trying to win as a country, start cooperating and develop a mutual system that can be updated and upgraded by anyone. Countries can still have their way of life but for the sake of peace, please share the knowledge and not the reality show ideas! Governments are like kids on a playground, just trying to feel the grounds and assert their authority.

[@criticalthought8709]

This guy has an uncanny ability to talk and say absolutely nothing at the same time. No wonder he’s CIA.

[@oruemulgrew9187]

Seems like he knows jack shit about China.

[@Palaecro]

Every time hes on this is how I feel too. He'll go somewhere but by the end I feel like I don't know much more than the video title mentions

[@CorpseBride64]

Lmao.

[@nicholasbreecher9315]

@@oruemulgrew9187 The issue with him working, or having worked, in a sensitive position is he has to be careful about what he says. He has obviously had access to sensitive material and information. If he releases privileged or protected information to explain something trivial he may go to jail. This is why defense contractors regularly sound vague or like they're searching for what they're saying, because there's certain topics they have to avoid or certain depths they're no allowed to go to into some topics.

[@justinkappler5784]

Double speak...its taught as tradecraft!!!

[@feezy243]

There’s no such thing as “Former” CIA Agent

[@mark_yt91]

Very original comment

[@RasMerkabah]

Exactly. I am guessing the CIA has wreak more havoc on sovereign US citizens than China ever will.

[@shooter-vx7xy]

"Man, you don't EVER leave the agency!"

[@GarSunChan]

Nah mao ze dong alone killed some twenty thirty million Chinese during the cultural revolution. So speaking of cruelty the communists are second to none.

[@mattgrele6318]

The guy sounds like a dope

[@ElusiveLabs]

I laughed more during this interview than any interview I’ve seen in awhile. Especially the “we do the same shit.. I guess it doesn’t cost anything to say sorry” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@robnduhcut]

We jus do it better that’s why china will always stay in there place.

[@paulsimons769]

@@robnduhcut it's cool everyone, just listen to this guy, he's really intelligent

[@roblangsworld]

SPOT ON

[@kevin5224]

@@robnduhcut America has been the most powerful country for about 200 years, which is rather temporary considering China was on the top of the food chain since the beginning of human civilization. Opium war and Japanese invasion turned the place into a shiter but they will not "always stay in their place". If anything, their place is back to being on the top.

[@deflategate1297]

Yeah that’s why we have Walmart and Burger King can’t have dominance without bloodshed

[@donhoolieo4896]

“Former CIA” lmao 🤣 that gets me every time.

[@scum07k]

Alternative Title: *Mason tells Hudson what the numbers mean*

[@FREQVENCYDubstep]

Yes 😂

[@huckmart2017]

Thats a throwback

[@ldznuts]

Dragovich. Kravchenko. Steiner. ALL must die!

[@hornyasexualwholovestof2544]

My Name is reznov

[@tylerdevore9404]

😂😂 funniest shit i ever read

[@opie8089]

That's Kevin Bacon's younger dad.

[@carmenl884]

🤣

[@joshuazarate9780]

Lmao

[@indepundint]

glow stick

[@vincentrivera9408]

Ahahahaha

[@SebsBeenHere]

Underrated 😭

[@batboylives]

True problem is strife, and where there is strife there is pride. Human pride is the root of all conflict on Earth. The unwillingness to humble ourselves and live in peace.

[@kalebkrucker9413]

Joe from the side is 50lbs heavier than joe from the front

[@GuiltyBystander8]

he has the HGH gut

[@demun6065]

Yeah that gut is trying to eat the table.

[@latenightchillin]

@@GuiltyBystander8 hgh gut??

[@german2554]

@@latenightchillin human growth hormone or sum shit

[@latenightchillin]

@@german2554 right but why does it make the gut do that

[@jasonapplebaum9871]

Watching on Spotify is lame, you can’t comment like here smh

[@ihat3friday832]

But u can go on other apps and turn off your phone

[@neithanm]

@@ihat3friday832 I can do that here too on Android...

[@ihat3friday832]

@@neithanm tf u talking about bruh? 💀 I’m talking about Spotify not apple or android

[@MrLizrd]

@@MM-eo2oz free doesn’t have to do with it

[@softwaresolved1370]

@@ihat3friday832 He's talking about how, at least on Android, you can do that stuff with Spotify AND KZbin, because your comment implied that you can only do that stuff with Spotify and NOT with KZbin.

[@scottkaercher1733]

Most gas stations has backup generators so they can pump gas and diesel.

[@branfu0775]

When is says mapping up a plan. Literally one of the goals of that balloon, that and missile silos

[@bhavishyanarang6124]

Spotify thinks that we head over there after watching these clips

[@SinKGG]

I do on occasion

[@Max_Snellink]

I'm here 20% for Joe and 80% for the comments.

[@cavemanlovesmoke4394]

Yeah F spotify. (Dont @ me spotify simps)

[@thebrocialist8300]

Lol

[@getchasome6230]

I've already got like 12 sites I flip thru. I'm not adding another

[@albatross5466]

In 1995 I was working as a contractor to the Navy. I had the opportunity to speak with some analysts. I asked about Russia. Their reply was "Russia is done. China is the next problem and it's going to be a bigger problem than Russia ever was".

[@varun_shankar]

@@adamjohnson4975 bruh moment

[@raygamma36]

@@adamjohnson4975 - what the hell does that have to do with anything? Are one of those neo-nazi morons?

[@msergio0293]

Yeah cause the US does not want any imperialist competition 😣

[@sparingpickle4918]

China is already in America. Deep in America. It’s called the democrat party. And idiots still vote for it.

[@namenome3680]

Russia has good propaganda.. they're military aint shit....

[@johnrizzo3314]

Better hope China doesn't use an EMP. Our electrical grid only has 3000 massive four thousand ton transformers. Each one is made in Germany or South Korea. And they take a year to make. We don't have any extra on hand, so if we were attacked with an EMP we'd be without power for at least a few years. That means no water from the sink, no grocery stores, no traffic lights, no heat, no working toilets. Your vehicle and cell phone won't work. It's estimated 90 percent of Americans would die from either, disease, starvation or violence from others trying to survive. Pray 🙏 it never happens.

[@RD-ye3zq]

As an US citizen why are we so focused on China, can we focus on our own US problems? Can we have better infrastructure, take care of our poverty and less gun shots in school?

[@andreww5574]

This guy put CIA on his LinkedIn and Jamie called him up

[@Danny-hj2qg]

Jaimie, can you look that up for me?

[@WristRockets]

I'll never forget my orientation when I got stationed at Whiteman AFB. They told me that back in the 90's when the B-2 was introduced. The international student population at local universities went up by 70% the following year. They also told us not to talk to any international girls at bars that would ask about our job.

[@nightuniverse8314]

Lol Leonard Hoffstader from The Big Bang Theory

[@infinitemarcus9384]

Damn. Sexy spies😬😏😂

[@sandranewman5067]

Still a good idea.

[@aaronwhite9487]

In warrensburg mo?

[@user-ki3ks4fd6i]

lmao

[@samhouston2000]

SolarWinds attack was a no attack. It was Stupid because IT admins never changed the default Administrator password. You could tried using the default password and would have succeeded.

[@kristiyanivanov7414]

lol noobs

[@prosecutor10]

A security breach is an attack

[@spartan187]

That was not senario, it was phising attack where they released a patch upgrad which inculded virus

[@ohwhatworld5851]

Wasn't it something like 'solarwinds1234' ? I am sure I read that in a news article.

[@ExIledstIllSane]

This aged like fine wine (2024 anyone?)

[@alberteinsteinthejew]

I love it when they bring back the 1960s’s “smoking during interview” culture

[@monicageorgson4870]

I agree, it’s relaxing somehow

[@dogecoinminingsavage8904]

They didn’t bring it back, they just do what they want

[@gregpetty4185]

Isn’t tobacco wonderful.

[@youngmuggzy85]

It’s kinda moody. Gives you retro vibes. Something about billowing smoke that makes you feel more laid back and chill

[@TCWG87]

Yes, lung cancer is amazing

[@garysstuff9330]

"I don't know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, But WW 4 will be fought with Sticks and Stones. --Albert Einstein

[@Only2GendersCommonSense]

@John Wick "No I didn't." -Albert Einstein

[@JD-gw3fp]

Means we have devolved...

[@RicDee2]

Enough is enough. Send Air Force One to West Palm Beach and bring him back to the White House.

[@wallacejordan1858]

@@RicDee2 FACTS✋✋✋

[@melloyellogsxr]

A war to end all wars.. 😔

[@Krystalmyth]

6:15 *hue and cry,* _noun_ 1a: a loud outcry formerly used in the pursuit of one who is suspected of a crime 1b: the pursuit of a suspect or a written proclamation for the capture of a suspect 2: a clamor of alarm or protest

[@anthonyjones5677]

those tour buses you see in and around your local city of Chinese ppl getting out and taking pictures of building and what not makes tons of sense

[@stevensmith2789]

Fun fact: WW III occurs in 2049 in the Star trek timeline...

[@klj2382]

It’s going to happen before then

[@chrisasterion5050]

it's already begun...

[@macrokamusic5971]

And then after... Luxery Gay Space Communism

[@yourboiD]

Fun fact wwIII is in effect right now. It's a different kind of war.

[@macrokamusic5971]

@@yourboiD the great meme wars?

[@Robot_247]

It sounds like we need a younger president who understands technology. This is not a jab at Biden, but a suggestion to maybe quit voting in presidents who grew up most of their "learning" life without technology

[@Noadvantage246]

More than the president we need a competent congress, at the end of the day Congress is the one with much more direct control over these kinds of things, that's literally what the intelligence committee is for. They're the ones who make the laws and policies that federal government follows.

[@LCRedemption]

Wrong

[@Robot_247]

@@LCRedemption At least provide an alternative and your reasoning. Saying "wrong" doesn't solve anything

[@rydz656]

And no more elections the chinese just wait out Presidents they don't like.

[@shadowling77777]

@@LCRedemption why don’t you actually say something.. you sound like a boomer lol

[@Hoosier_Daddy69]

13:30 So wait, is Spotify free?

[@vicqur]

US accusing China of stealing tech secrets is like "pot calling the kettle black."

[@bool0101]

I just want to know what 'knees over toes guy' thinks about this.

[@catsfrommars]

Not trying to be a dick here, but I'm curious what is this in reference to and is it something I should look into?

[@buttburgers8619]

@@catsfrommars don't bother

[@catsfrommars]

@@buttburgers8619 thanks for the heads-up!

[@blackhatves1075]

@@catsfrommars a dude who believes its better to workout with knees over toes. It'll cause some serious anterior pelvic tilt but it may provide a better round kick. If you could straighten your hip afterwards.

[@seanbrown6904]

Bulletproof them knees

[@clicheguevara5282]

“I used to work for the CIA, but I’m here to tell you the truth now.” Seems legit.

[@Gob.]

once CIA, always CIA

[@ballskin]

these comments 😂

[@thatmeme1360]

WW3 is around the corner. Taiwan is in a Grey War with China already. China is committing genocide in Xinjiang. China's trying to gain as many allies as possible through things like the " Belt And Road " initiative . They're gathering all the Scrap metals they can from freightliners and cruiseliners that are being decommissioned due to covid-19. Pack them mags.

[@blackbeard5588]

@@ballskin Yeah lol These people are kooky for thinking the CIA shouldn’t be trusted.

[@allthesmallthings1041]

You gonna post this on every video he’s in?

[@JamesEhler]

I think there is somethings that should only have paper records and not be able to be hacked. Or leave some stuff to be found with very hard to find faults that will only show up way down the line that they wouldnt be able to really solve and compromises the whole product that they stole.

[@JonTheComedian]

I saw dude and the griddle shirt and all I thought was : “ A STICK A BUTTA ON THE GRIDDLE BABY “

[@JonnyHorseman]

Can't wait for the chinese cut of Blade Runner 2049

[@ericcartman5952]

Doubt it will see the light of day. Running is banned in China

[@JonnyHorseman]

@@ericcartman5952 So are blades.

[@mikemoore5263]

According to some we already have that, lol

[@XenoTravis]

Cyber runner 2079 bootleg.exe

[@mkchillin]

Choi instead of Joi lol

[@Rajesh1622]

I didn't believe when someone said CIA is crackheads and always on drugs.. now i believed it💀🤣

[@photo_n_art]

There is no such a thing as former CIA, you can’t retire from knowing state secrets. And btw. “Operation Mockingbird” rings a bell? 🤷🏼

[@ominousbiscuit]

"Former CIA agent" yeah that's how the CIA works, he's cool now guys

[@ksc743]

This guest is boring. China is up to no good. The right guest would make us sit bolt upright at what China is cooking up rn.

[@VV-wc4bg]

Cia agents have always been cool, current and former.

[@gmoney5947]

@@austinz9862 John Breenen is never coming on this show just like the Clintons or Epstein etc.

[@captainLoknar]

the intelligence agency worship boggles me. We are exactly like China. worshipping out oppressors and manufacturing consent.

[@pewdepie9178]

@@captainLoknar right because the US is constantly starting land disputes and annexing nieghbouring countrys. also forced "re-educating" for muslims to become non muslim. right US and CCP are exactly the same, stop lying to everyone.

[@trustori2407]

THE BEST CONTENT IN THE WORLD HANDS DOWN👈🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 GOOD JOB JOE

[@3DomSculpts]

"Infiltration instead of invasion" - JFK

[@3DomSculpts]

P.S. "the plan" has been brought forward...

[@davidcnutt5826]

Thanks for remembering, few do.

[@ashj_2088]

Russia maybe on our side

[@jessehellakoo]

Way cheaper and more effective

[@surfrunnerd8457]

Yes! We have been infiltrated. JFK - my all time favorite President. What an inspiration he was and is to this day!

[@Mprator]

I can't imagine that cigar smoke is good for the microphones and stuff.

[@jtbaying2312]

When I worked for Texas Instruments we had Classes on how people from other countries would friend you up at a bar or Night Club to get Sensitive information about Defense Systems we manufactured.

[@spawnattack44alIEN]

which is now X FAB

[@hansblitz7770]

Current CIA guy gives "official statement"

[@Theblackmoon710]

ha. and blames everything on russia with zero evidence

[@SrSilly]

Exactly

[@MrFufumann]

Yep....same ole shit...chinese only copying? Dude that was correct 10-20 years ago, but that's long over. Future breakthrough technologies will come out of Chinese R&D centers, and it's already happening. And that's just one example of the BS this guy is talking. Amazingly Joe keeps sucking up all the anti-China rhethoric he's served. One of the few negatives I've noticed with him, otherwise I love JRE.

[@jf2849]

@@MrFufumann they just want the public divided fighting amongst themselves and focusing anger on China or any country. Made up enemies are necessary to keep the population from going after the real enemy their own Government. Let’s be real people your government should not be trusted anymore than the Chinese, Russian or any other government. Our biggest threat has been and always will be internal no outside country poses a serious threat. The way politics are going a country will destroy itself far sooner than some kind of invasion, war, or outside threat will do.

[@joehosken3938]

@@jf2849 Read a history book you tard: you don't NEED to make up foreign enemies, plenty of them exist naturally lol Especially if you are the dominant Super-power/Hegemon: there will be no shortage of challengers wanting to take the belt : ) If you're too lazy to actually READ, then I suggest the "Hardcore History" podcasts with Dan Carlin. The guy is perfect at explaining every intricate little detail whilst still keeping you on the edge of your seat. If you were in a Chinese gulag getting tortured and then having your organs removed and then sold on the black-market, I doubt you'd say that....

[@AstonMonks]

“You know, a lot of people say that if you dig long enough and hard enough, you will get to China, and that may be true. But what they don't tell you is that if you dig long enough and hard enough in a conversation, you get to a friend.” - Michael Scott

[@DBZSeanzie]

You beat me to it 👏🏼 👏🏼

[@kelleymuro5271]

Listen to this interview here the CIA agent talks about how he survived in prison and his career through 9/11 was freaking awesome kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHq3f4uvaN1lr8k

[@tecumsehneo2174]

That's right. If Joe would learn more about China and the Chinese people, he wouldn't be so afraid.

[@freegatemy]

@@tecumsehneo2174 China together with Russia the Americans ought to be very afraid

[@SUNSPYtm]

At least someone is saying it "they" "they" "they" we're one fucking species here jesus this shit is getting stupid do we like wars now, humans

[@ratedRx69]

Maybe we need to keep up to date with the power grid rather than adding on to it with all the electrical stuff.

[@BalboaBaggins]

Obviously the US isn't the only country in the world that apologizes for doing things for their own interest. Pretty arrogant to think that way.

[@Micp2912]

Kevin Bacon could play this guy.

[@kingz3279]

Very underrated comment

[@thelegion3682]

That IS Kevin bacon .. Or his sister's kid joey french fries. 😒

[@definitelynotcrazyrei3890]

Kevin Baker, Mike Bacon.

[@crystalkellim9987]

Kevin's face looks less fake for sure

[@charlesphillips7608]

Brian Cranston could as well..

[@babs1735]

It feels like they’re in a midgets house

[@St.CrimsonTweets]

Hobbit home

[@mannyclav]

I think that word is a slur buddy.

[@babs1735]

@@mannyclav Slur Lives Matter

[@joeroganstrtshots881]

@@St.CrimsonTweets sci fi hobbit home

[@michaelehlert9]

Funny and true

[@pawet.7415]

I love fact that they smoking in studio :) I remember times when you could smoke in TV studio, pubs, hotels and trains. I never smoke cigarets but I'm missing it ;]

[@jfmallon75]

Solar Winds is used by the Dept of Human Services... used to back door into computers and install software.

[@JohnnyUnderscore1981]

America 101 : There is no such thing as a "former" C.I.A. agent.

[@Mike9201984]

Allen Dulles orchestrated the JFK assassination after he was fired as CIA chief.

[@worldisfilledb]

@@Mike9201984 sure he did lol

[@abram730]

@@Mike9201984 LBJ put Cord Meyer Jr. in charge of the JFK thing. JFK had slept with his wife, so he was all in. Meyer took care of the wife later.

[@360.Tapestry]

@@abram730 oh! i can't wait for the new season

[@cue1806]

China thinking about 2049 and Im here stil workin on my 2020 plan in 2021. 🤷‍♂️

[@geldtas216]

China is making everyone their slaves soon

[@Curtis-tx5hr]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmHQl4Gul6aKi9k

[@carmenl884]

Omg hilarious!

[@imawarrior313]

Comment of the year

[@jaybeenzy4585]

Truth.

[@adamgreen6225]

When i worked in UK at a steelworks i heard that in the late 80s they had a few visitors from China they took plenty of pictures to see how it all worked in the Mill. Reverse engineering everything!

[@Rikard416]

Oh I do hope they reverse engineer what yall did to native people in Australia

[@chrisflynn5936]

This guy isn't ex CIA. He is full of BS.

[@dustinmiller2775]

The Joe Rogan Experience, where the CIA has a cigar.

[@Larrypint]

Looks like Joe Rogan becomes a propaganda tool for American Think tanks and secret service geopolitics. Jamie Metzl is also not a scientist he is a author and member of the atlantic globalist council think tank, and he worked in the Democratic party for Clinton and Biden.

[@dix0n778]

Cigar Smoking Man... *cue the X-Files theme*

[@JJ-3033]

And Joe has a spliff

[@timothygolden5321]

Yeah, I think that guy practiced his cigar smoking technique a couple of days before the show.

[@woodystemms3799]

@@Larrypint ... and, ... so what?

[@ungratefulpeasant8085]

I'm still tripping out over how the new studio looks like a Klingon battle cruiser.

[@FusionC6]

yeah it fucking stinks... i wasn't watching shit for months because of it lol.. the lighting is off and its distracting, but god damn his guests and well rogan being himself draw me back in

[@capealio]

Inside of a toaster

[@t3h51d3w1nd3r]

a true Klingon does not care about comfort, aggressive functionality

[@capealio]

Hell

[@LorenzoJ0]

He's building another one. It was rushed as he was trying to get out of Cali

[@djiniiiii]

Reminds me of the incident when NSA hacked into the personal cell phones of the leaders of all their allied Nations and were building dossiers on them If that's how the US treats it's allies, I can only imagine what kind of demented shit they have been doing to their adversaries 😂

[@prosecutor10]

Putin regularly dodges questions using whataboutisms. Two wrongs dont make a right, the russian gov. Has the emotional stability of a 4 year old

[@Kevin-yi8mk]

LOL and they say the chinese are the stealing criminals 🤡

[@prosecutor10]

@@Kevin-yi8mk two wrongs dont make a right dude

[@mikewade4338]

After that they thought it would be a good idea to have local police departments do the same shit to people they were jealous of in high school

[@djiniiiii]

To the Muricunts getting their undies in a bunch 👇🏼 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ2moqCNdtWSbpI

[@stephenmandes5797]

Yes ! The stare and pointing with the index finger. Ha !

[@ionutionut8343]

Oh Joe's cia handler is on the pod again, love that guy 😆

[@saumius460]

Exactly, at least I like that people are aware that guy is still a cia agent

[@luckydog2896]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqKQgqZjo5uJm80 :)

[@jonathanvillareal399]

This is good lol

[@alexmcgregor2854]

😂

[@boefb3164]

🤣

[@actingstrange]

JBL, for the last time, you’re a wrestler, not an ex CIA agent

[@drsps3280]

Who do u think gave bradshaw a limosuine to travel and made him JBL which we now know ??? Uncle sam

[@NSJonesy94]

Just want to take this moment to say JBL is a piece of shit. Continue.

[@elijahragsdale572]

@@NSJonesy94 sorry but why?

[@hanhaloshot1st116]

ITS JOHN O'CLOCK

[@willismcgee7210]

Who's JBL?

[@ajaychandra3401]

I read CIA in the description .....grabbed some salt and pepper now!

[@DavidBaronStevensPersonal]

This guy: "we [as the USA] take a targeted approach" to intelligence gathering... Edward Snowden, James Clapper, and PRISM all laugh their rears off 😂

[@dielawn87]

Ya this guy is delusional and dogmatic. Coupled with that, most the tech China has acquired from the US was in brokered deals. That's what happens when you treat China as the international production factory for 50 years.

[@StarFox_SNES]

@JBE39V8 ! No, DJohn is correct. They’ve been manufacturing our products for decades, and in order to do that, they need the technology and infrastructure to produce those goods on a massive scale...which we provided to them on a silver platter.

[@360.Tapestry]

@JBE39V8 ! you wrote a lot for being so useless

[@TM-bn8pv]

Yeah, America is still king of the world in both military, Intelligence gathering (both illegal and legal, false and true), cyber warfare (I mean DARPA was the catalyst to make this happen and you know damn well it wouldn't only be used for pornhub once World Wide Web was invented on top of the net. They have the top universities, and many allies that help as well. They know much more than we think and it's scary...but they have many allies, whereas China has a few...but China sure is scary

[@dc1939]

@@StarFox_SNES Still, DJohn is delusional for assuming this guy is delusional, rather than deliberately redirecting/misinforming or sticking to fractional truths during the interview.

[@sumboy6183]

The most CIA sounding guy wearing the least CIA t-shirt.

[@hungrymusicwolf]

That's what they want you to think, that t-shirt is in fact their uniform!

[@blackbeard5588]

That’s the governments “Look, I’m hip” outfit.

[@sumboy6183]

@@hungrymusicwolf the griddle cafe is obviously the CIA main headquarters

[@Le_Petomane]

it screams "hello fellow kids" vibe.

[@sumboy6183]

@@Le_Petomane i read that in mr.CIA's voice lol

[@khaulezaskhosana5062]

Sharing information and manner of doing things is suppose to be spontaneous when two countries or culture theres exchange of information.

[@TheMovieCure]

-"Former"- There is Zero, former , in the Government, son.

[@harveyschindler9554]

I remember 20+ years ago, manufactures in Ca were elated to be selling solar panel assembly machines to Chinese companies. So not only did China take over solar panel sales, they reverse engineered the machines that made them and of course now they cornered that market.

[@Brad45420]

u know what tells u all u need to know, this comment has 10 likes, and the comment about his beer gut on joe has 26k likes, usa is in serious trouble,

[@canubeleiveit]

That is a very good observation, they totally blew smoke up the asses of this country. Oh,we build it cheaper and sell it cheaper meanwhile they have all the machines that make the machines.

[@Brad45420]

@@canubeleiveit scary and even worse the american dream bs is so hollow . its called american but its a worldwide okey doke.

[@Brad45420]

@@canubeleiveit when u realize its not even about making a profit but about making more every day just to increase the stocks value. no company can sustain a good overall structure and constantly increase profit margins. eventually u have to either decrease quality and throw money in to advertising to give the appearance of a better product. which eventially leads to making garbage and dismantling the company. how is that good for any1. only other way is to start making illegal or amoral decisions

[@mrfactinion9616]

🇺🇸📉📉

[@Mister_Peepo]

"it's alot easier to hoover up everything and reverse engineer it" Area 51 scientists: *sweats*

[@blznft9513]

@@Gallowglass7 You're entitled to your opinion

[@kingfisher7960]

Viva la Mexico 🇲🇽 scumbag

[@RJT80]

What people dont understand is Chinese culture doesn't allow for the level of innovation the US engages in. Confucianism says to copy the masters as trying to make something better is a waste of time. That's exasperated by the communist system that demands even more control of invidiual through and initiative. It want so much that China chose to steal but that they have to.

[@bigdaddy9089]

I think they would be along the lines of ..... hah YEAH right, but that's none of my business.

[@aaronvivar52]

@Honest Avatar here boahh

[@jangler007]

I miss his Han Solo Millennium Falcon cockpit podcast room.

[@jezus22]

11:58 yep, I get this guy here, this is "we are the good guys" moment and he is aware of that. every country... or rather government works in its own interest

[@robertmiller3281]

This guy looks like he rocked up wearing a suit and Joe gave him a t shirt to throw on

[@peter9style]

Haha very well observed. Fully agree! (Hair, watch etc.)

[@linzani8028]

Lol

[@TheBlackManMythLegend]

True

[@Customwinder1]

Vincent and Jules

[@superstock9261]

🤣🤣

[@XxxULTIMATEZxxX]

Everyone says the Cold War ended years ago, but it’s still going to this day. It’s just that the opponent has changed.

[@BoqPrecision]

Imo, the emergence of cold wars just evidence the global deep states have wisened to the lose lose effects of world wars... Cold war as a concept was one of the best most fortunate developments of the 20th century, because the previous trajectory had WW3 scheduled to occur sometime around the mid 1960s.

[@skillercruz5539]

Except what you fail to realize is that the opponent has actually never changed. Its always been Jewish and non Jewish communist

[@XxxULTIMATEZxxX]

@@skillercruz5539 Alright, chill out Adolf.

[@skillercruz5539]

@@XxxULTIMATEZxxX hitler is by far not the only person who knows the truth but your immediate assumption that this is just hitlerian shows your indoctrination quite strongly

[@luckydog2896]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqKQgqZjo5uJm80 :)

[@TheClearchoice18]

Maybe we need to practice how to work around if the power grid will go down advise people more less what to do what to expect how to survive not force people to do it but give him a vice scenario

[@knightwatch4168]

I like how Joe let's his guests speak without interruption

[@GavinBroekema]

“Infiltrate the dealers find the suppliers” -JFK

[@Spuddy10]

-also Ice Cube in 21 Jump Street

[@N238E]

"Eat my ass." - Lyndon B. Johnson

[@dainiskarklins823]

My name Jeff

[@infinitemarcus9384]

😂😂😂😂

[@conormarie4310]

lol

[@cobrafan427]

Me: Sees Mike Baker in the title and clicks Also me: immediately ignores the video and goes straight to the comments for a laugh at Mike Baker’s expense

[@N-e-o1]

Bingo.

[@user-uw6fp4wp5o]

Me too.

[@stevenfortier6436]

Lol...exactly. Just not really into the fluff an bull shit. If he could give us some info we didn't already know I would probably listen.

[@brandonrawe2470]

Did exact same thing

[@Nic-xr1og]

Then just start doing everything in offline servers and use paper for top secret stuff..

[@gilbertmendoza4128]

Anyone know what type of cigars their smoking??

[@TRUEROOTS2022]

“Chy- and I can’t stress this enough- na”

[@ianmedford4855]

"China is asshoe" -Ancient Hong Kong proverb

[@bemotivated8443]

@@ianmedford4855 I know that you’re joking but the guy who said that disappeared

[@slackhackman9115]

All Trump ever did was love people!🙂

[@albundy7198]

Biden just ended Trump administration policy about keeping Chinese components out of our power grid now that Biden did that there will be Chinese components in our grid loaded with malware just waiting to shut everything off.

[@tahahagar7664]

@@albundy7198 There is no need, it doesnt matter anymore. Israel has infiltrated everything in America already and they are best buddies with China (and Russia) so RIP to the US lol

[@projectcountersign5791]

No the US Intel don’t just target specific objectives. Their collaboration with big tech pretty much spies on everyone all the time

[@cl570]

Depends. Obama and a few other people within the government limited what they can do, although Snowden said that during Obama's second term he made the NSA even more powerful. They don't have enough agents to spy on everyone all the time, they use a key logger so if you say things like "kill president" "bomb" they can find those terms on any platform and flag you, and spy on you. Saying they spy on everyone specifically is like saying the ATF has enough agents to take everyone's guns away ; they don't.

[@cahg3871]

@@cl570 the fact the NSA have building after building in every city with the tech to literally listen/read every text,phone call,social media posting etc. is amazing.Big brother is very much alive,but with all the dangerous people and groups in the world,maybe it’s necessary?

[@cl570]

@@cahg3871 It is a necessary evil, but to what extent is for you to decide. Since the patriot act, a lot of terrorist and domestic terrorist attacks have been foiled, although, not all of them.

[@cahg3871]

@@cl570 -It is a complicated question and I honestly do not know what the answer is.It seems that answer gets murkier every generation.

[@danielchettiar5670]

@@cl570 How do you know that that reason is not a front to abuse the patriot act, and spy?

[@chrisjensen9051]

I think every US agencies that have three letters representing them should be reviewed for how useful it is and fired or disbanded if found corrupt or lacking in performance. FBI, CIA,DEA all of them clean house.

[@RodimusPrime]

Why on earth would a power grid even be connected to the internet, we had power 30 years ago without it, why do it now?

[@Raffini]

Jesus, Joe's torso has officially become a square. *No, a Cube!

[@kokoriko999]

Growth hormone

[@justinneal1817]

@Saida Cruz oh because he's a male right? But if it was a woman you'd shit a kitten

[@ifeelfantastic8956]

Joe minecraft Rogan.

[@countstrapula8229]

He looks like Kanye in that one music video 😂

[@broadside8326]

his body is turning old...there is no way around it....the muscles wont shape like with a young body. look at stallone....packed but his body shapes into something else...

[@Raylengivens44]

This topic was discussed on The Office years ago. Michael reads a magazine that says China is the next big thing.

[@someoneinthecrowd4313]

Better learn some Mandarin before the Chinese knock down your door to say Ni Hao bitch

[@mattieskemoevie]

We should have known all along lol 😅

[@mosesgoldbergshekelstien1520]

Ima knee how the crap out of them bugs

[@lilyofthevalley9853]

What episode is it?

[@Raylengivens44]

@@lilyofthevalley9853 China

[@ldnzz]

The smoke is distracting him man. Blow a different direction 🤣

[@jaysivs3468]

Was this before or after covid?

[@pathologicalphilosophy1959]

Former CIA agent: "Even when I lie, I tell the truth"

[@bemotivated8443]

There’s a joke in law-enforcement,Whenever an FBI agent with me to CIA the FBI man would say to his partner “do you think that’s his real name” and his partner would say to him “do you think he knows”

[@titomala-madre]

@@bemotivated8443 CIA Agent to FBI agents: Don't you guys have black activists to assassinate?

[@eatme6752]

@@titomala-madre GOT EMMMMM

[@mohamud3917]

@@johnnyparsnips7641 People are listening to this ex cia goon like he’s actually interested in telling you the truth

[@sergeikhripun]

"Propaganda by its very nature is an enterprise for perverting significance of events and insinuating false intentions. The propagandist will not accuse the enemy of just any misdeed; he will accuse him of the very intentions that he himself has and of trying to commit the very crimes that he himself is about to commit. He who wants to provoke a war not only proclaims of his own peaceful intentions but also accuses the other party of the provocation." Jacques Ellul

[@funzie11]

Hmm I never seem end up on Spotify after listening to these snips... 🤔

[@chulainn32]

Thanks for making us privy to this very important information. You should start your own channel so the world doesn't miss out on the other exciting every day decisions you are making. Subscriber here anyway Steve. Fantastic stuff.

[@Kay0Bot]

😂

[@hopefullyreasonable]

@@chulainn32 such a gay response man. It's the internet, his joke was topical, what more do you want from a KZbin comment section on a podcast snip? Of course it's gonna be random. The irony here is while some people will be interested in his joke, almost noone will be interested in your rant about not caring.

[@CTXSkreet]

@@chulainn32 “what you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

[@jadebailey5959]

KZbin should always be the true home of jre