Former CIA Agent Mike Baker Talks Civil Unrest

Taken from JRE #1519 w/Mike Baker:
• Joe Rogan Experience #...

[@mr7wi]

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” George Orwell, 1984

[@matthew944]

"The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth"

[@mr7wi]

4.669 beautiful

[@MoranisToboggan]

Great read reminds me of Babylon

[@r1bew42]

These cretins wouldn't have the ability to read 1984. Your post is bang on.

[@SHAKE-S-PIERRE]

R1Bew kids literally read it in school

[@jeanetteharold5991]

Hey, don’t forget, Jeffrey Epstien didn’t just happen to kill himself at the same time the cameras happened to stop working at the same time the guards happened to fall asleep.

[@Name-oz4lq]

I hate it Here yeah right! This murder is a typical Clinton trademark killing.

[@dl0l.l0lb]

Joost Broek mossad has infiltrated every government in the world. The cia isn’t shit compared to mossad.

[@abdullahx8118]

Thanks you should make this a daily reminder

[@NPC-st7zv]

@I hate it Here #clintonbodycount

[@NPC-st7zv]

@I hate it Here with their connections, they don't have to be in power to be able to silence anyone.

[@jasonvoorhees895]

I just think it's funny when a CIA guy says "I'm no conspiracy theorist, but..." You were in the CIA, bro...you ARE the conspiracy LOL 😂

[@TheUnseenPath]

He's not. The company is for sure xD

[@alphatrader5705]

@@TheUnseenPath Provide proof that he's not. Otherwise it's just your opinion, which is meaningless.

[@TheUnseenPath]

@@alphatrader5705 Much like your comment on this page. xD He just said and many times before he's retired.

[@Beholder505]

that's a low energy response. Generalizing is weak. That would be like saying that the entirety of the police force in the US is a conspiracy.

[@jasonvoorhees895]

@@Beholder505 A "low energy response?" Somebody doesn't get jokes. Sometimes you can spot them by the big LOL and 😂 at the end of a sentence.

[@lieutenantlascivious1992]

An ex KGB agent said that there is no such thing as a "grass roots" revolution and that all revolutions have some sort of professional organizers.

[@rajeshreddy4491]

Yuri was right

[@Officialmryuck]

There's no such thing as an ex-kgb agent bro 🤣🤫

[@hscollier]

Oh, so that’s what a ‘community organizer’ is. 🙂

[@Garrus1995]

Journalism should, by it’s very nature, be objective and unbiased. Report the facts, report what is happening and leave ideology and politics out of it.

[@TREXX8111]

So what if the facts go against your ideology or politics? Journalism should be unbiased as possible, nothing delivered by a human can negate bias entirely though. It's fundamentally impossible. The problem is a lack of credible journalism today due to the internet saturating the advertising market. This forces journalists to focus more on conflict and opinions pieces than actual news simply to get paid. Politics is an amazing catalyst for conflict. The second issue is that because of the increase of bad journalism due to market shifts leads to a distrust in journalism (rightfully so) that forces genuine and credible journalists into the same basket, even though they are just releasing the objective facts as unbiased as possible. The problem there is people distrust journalism so much that if a damaging fact about a political entity is covered there is a political ideology ready to reject it and claim fake news.

[@Padthai_Shrimp]

yeah journalism is about satisfying your market audience. Thats why we have left wing and right wing media. And little in between. People are just primitive tribalistic. They like to belong to a team. Therefore a market naturally forms out of this division. Hence we have polarizing journalism. The market for a center and objective journalism is just not profitable. Since objective journalism, would eventually print out a story that would offend right wing and left wing ideologies. Pushing away people from both sides. Hence a market for objective news does not form. So in the end, its about people realizing how flawed people are.

[@fernandopuente983]

@@joshgonzales8201 boom mic drop

[@vinslungur]

The US has turned journalism into a business that prioritizes shareholders and profit.

[@adamschneider868]

"Yellow" Journalism should be considered treason.

[@seperoth2769]

Genghis Khan literally has one of the largest statues in the world in Mongolia.

[@jacoblaughbon3323]

Since 1 in every 10 Chinese men are directly descended from Genghis, he deserves it. Also proves that walls don't work for shit. Also, the biggest statue is of Buddha at the Spring Temple. But, whatever.

[@jacoblaughbon3323]

@S billings Pretty sure they are still a country and still a free people. Also considered to be the greatest horseman and archers that ever lived. I'd call that a victory. What's America got? Most people that use Instagram? gtfoh

[@jacoblaughbon3323]

@S billings You are correct about the violence part though. :)

[@jacoblaughbon3323]

@S billings Yet, the Mongolian gene is overwhelming prominent. Looks like the war was won by the Mongolians. And did you just tell me to watch something on KZbin for information? Wow. I'll stick to books, thanks.

[@spracketskooch]

@@jacoblaughbon3323 That's not the biggest statue anymore. Now it's the 'Staue of Unity' in India. It's over 500ft tall.

[@streetbat123]

Lol cia agent says "we rarely organize things like this" 🤣

[@InAnotherLife90]

lollllllllllllllll

[@nagasako7]

He immediately looked down saying that. He doesn't have to defend his peers in CIA, but dammit it looked guilty af LOL

[@scottdavis4388]

Wouldn’t surprise me if CIA is running BLM or the protest in Portland. I consider both to be controlled opposition

[@huckleberryscout9980]

@@scottdavis4388 my observation in the mob, 95% peaceful, young people, 5% extremely destructive dudes. I got pissed watching destruction of public property but I kept my mouth shut, cause mob.

[@Paleolillith]

They don't. That's a different department 😂😂 technically not a lie.

[@drivebye2709]

Orrrrrrr...you could stop treating violent criminals who die of overdoses while resisting arrest like tragic heroes.

[@colling6576]

Ignorant

[@steveo3328]

Well said and agree 108%.

[@obaome]

Lol, if he was overdosing on fetanayl he would have been non responsive long before the police made contact with him, not in the middle of being arrested. That's not how drugs work bud. I bet you believe you actually die from a PCP overdose too?

[@stephengrigg5988]

Even donut operator called the cop that sat on Floyd's neck a "fucking asshole" and said he hurt police as a whole. Do the blame game all you want, but I am of the mind that cops should be better than the average criminal.

[@obaome]

@TangoX projection and name calling much? Again, if you are overdosing on fetanayl, you are not actively resisting arrest physically and being verbal about it. He would have been nodded the fuck out in his vehicle before the cops even showed up. He had meth in his system which to me means he was doing speedballs which is meth/opiates mixed. That causes you to act crazy and unpredictable. I would know because I've plenty of them and was pronounced dead from an overdose and brought back to life with narcan, thankfully without inept police officers involved. But I don't operate on facts, just first hand experiences. Stay triggered over my name bud, thinking that it represents me being a Biden supporter. You clearly have haven't been on the internet very long. Get fucked and do some real drugs and live life a little LOL

[@mikepostalakis]

This new season of Portlandia is insane

[@BlueprintsForHeadaches]

Bruh it really is like that up here in Seattle rn

[@himoragenma6416]

This new season of America's Got Talent is RIDICULOUS!!!!

[@JosephMuin]

"You got a dollar?"

[@niggasaurusrex3952]

@@himoragenma6416 meh

[@himoragenma6416]

@@niggasaurusrex3952 Huh, oh....👎👎👎👎

[@wardog_5539]

The CIA is 100% trustworthy they would never do anything bad

[@ukwoodcarver]

Wardog _ I thought he sounded like a lefty school teacher.

[@aeeevTHEBESTYOUTUBERXDDD]

I seen u on the NSA come talk that sht to my FACE

[@christophergaribay7097]

I dont fully trust anyone a lot of riots are untrustworthy just as much as every government. A lot of double standards, backstabbing amongst them.

[@MelbourneMatty]

Wardog _ “...very rarely...”

[@shanehackett4683]

Yup Totally agree. All that shit we did in South America, particularly in Nicaragua, was totally on the up and up and was only about spreading democracy.

[@daveharris7734]

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[@MrSpot94]

The proper response: NO Thanks now gtfo!

[@GeneElder.R27]

Dave Harris give an example of a successful anarchy then. I’ll wait..

[@daveharris7734]

@@GeneElder.R27 my guess they didn't teach you about the French revolution.

[@masterneverwas3145]

Lol Gold Humour Love it :)

[@masterneverwas3145]

'It's like Trust Me', I am your elected official immune ! To the all to common human frailties of those typcially seeking excessive power, money and influence over others...

[@TheBushdoctor68]

_"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable"._ JFK - 1962

[@TheBushdoctor68]

@@cheneyhidalgo3973 They have. For decades now. And people (like you?) who fail to see that, or fail to acknowledge that, are the ones who make violent revolution inevitable.

[@chadalpha678]

@@TheBushdoctor68 yes because a man overdosing on fentanyl and meth who resisted arrest while his partner kept screaming stop resisting "George Floyd" sparked Mostly peaceful riots big oooof have you even watched the body cams???

[@chadalpha678]

@@TheBushdoctor68 www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf

[@Test7017]

@@chadalpha678 Blm are soros funded riots. Wake up

[@shrimuyopa8117]

Yah the problem is the revolution you are seeking is a communist revolution. Bring on the violence, we are not going that route of communism.

[@antonydrossos5719]

EVERYTHING I hear about Portland makes me imagine a Mad Max movie, but everyone's wearing brightly colored tights & matching shitty hair dye

[@neovenom9833]

Escape from Portland, in theaters 2022.

[@buttholesurfers741]

Underrated comment lmao

[@BuddyLee23]

Downtown is a little colorful during certain hours, but it’s mostly pretty harmless and hyped up to be way more intense than it actually is.

[@Shatamx]

@@BuddyLee23 Its a full blown riot. A little colorful isn't correct man. You know that.

[@BuddyLee23]

@@Shatamx aside from the graffiti which obviously lingers during the day, it's honestly pretty dead down there most of the time, but sure, its clearly had some wild times over the last couple months.

[@jone915]

*social media is the perfect tool for organizing the unrest.*

[@AjitB07]

And MSM lol

[@finddeniro]

Tunisia Tweeters. .oh kidding. ..

[@loganstolberg2743]

And is the perfect placed to get brainwashed.

[@jone915]

@@river4462 think we give people too much attention via social media.

[@jone915]

@Christine Felice no god

[@midwesternfellowship1237]

I agree we need more police training, as soon as we get more parental training.

[@dsbiddle]

Nah, that’ll just be hijacked by leftist authoritarians, too. But I agree that parenting is a huge problem.

[@midwesternfellowship1237]

@wasteddude911 they probably taught you to not attack the police. Thank them later.

[@billybatson8657]

Since most cops only make 35-60k a year how much training are they going to be able to do and still be willing to risk their lives for peanuts?

[@mikestein1024]

Richard_Head but how do we find people that want to take on the challenge of being a cop and everything that comes with it all the disrespect and everything they have to deal with for 40k a year ? What we need is parenting classes too , we cannot be raising children while watching tv it’s one or the other there

[@roronoarollin4849]

Abolish police I mean they don’t help people they show up after they’re needed

[@Avedisdrummer09]

"We very rarely organized things like this..." So like...they definitely do/did...just rarely...

[@Elfunko99x]

"...within the last week..."

[@jman19801]

History is supposed to be painful. That's how you learn not to repeat it.

[@jman19801]

My take is similar to Mike Baker. We should not be trying to outright whitewash all of history just because it makes us feel better. You have to admit the good with the bad.

[@vitriolicenema8397]

Ugh.. no dummy. Learning about the "real" history won't, nor has it ever, changed anything. People will still commit the same mistakes, they can't help it. You are probably overweight and wish to loose some pounds, and even though you know how you probably don't have what it takes to do so. In the same way we know what socialism will bring and yet we will end up implementing it here in the states. Facts, for all intents and purposes, are whatever the masses want them to be.

[@trippasnippa119]

Nobody learns how not to repeat it, the repetition of history is inevitable.

[@JonnyUnderrated]

no its not.history is what we make it, no god is saying it must be awful. its all us

[@jon-christiankaczor5384]

Exactly. The b past is history tomorrows a mystery

[@teddavis292]

There's no such thing as a "former" CIA agent.

[@jimsteinway695]

Lol! Great comment 👍

[@MKRocker2012]

Does it really matter?

[@dadson8524]

RED

[@gallowsradio]

@@dadson8524 that tittle only fits Bruce Willis...

[@nathandehoyos8796]

You know this personally?

[@schmerzmeister3980]

Boycott the NBA / Free Hong Kong

[@etacbro7031]

All pro sports

[@schmerzmeister3980]

Etac Bro The NBA receives $6B from the Chinese Regime. The NBA apparently have new Slave Masters. Either the NBA are slaves or whores, both are illegal.

[@etacbro7031]

I just want to relax and watch a game without political bullshit. Sports should be about sports.

[@etacbro7031]

@Randy Porter I'm done with Gillette razors also, they want bash men for being alpha. They want you to wear skinny jeans and talk about your feelings. 😊

[@JudgeDredd_]

Millionaires and Billionaires do not care about these pedestrian squabbles. At least I wouldn't if I were rich. I'd be in a champagne shower with my girl and 5 hooters bitches right now eating hot wings and paying homeless people to fight to the death and the winner would get to have sex with all the hooter chicks, a used mustang from some backwoods lot and 25K cash

[@jamesbiberston1618]

Hey Joe, had to reach out to you. I have just started watching you on KZbin. I am 58 my mom is 96, my Wife and I move from New Mexico back to California where she is living. Her mind is very confused. When I turned your show on, it amazes me to watch how intrigued she is and how involved she is with your show, no matter who is on. Any way thought you might enjoy hearing. Keep it up when your able.

[@Johndoe-kw5zr]

Should’ve asked him about the CIA flooding the country with drugs and blaming it on cartels

[@DoubleClutchProductions]

Next time my car needs an oil change I am just going to defund it.

[@nicholasamos5466]

Please never say this out loud

[@LosBerkos]

So the oil is police personnel in this analogy.

[@JC-dy7tf]

You can just talk about it everyv3000 miles, do it with shitty oil at 10k, and wonder why things slowly break-down..don't consider moving to an electric car

[@jalexwheeler7751]

"Used to be a hell of a place." Now it's just Hell.

[@user-bkey]

“when you want to be more grounded in investigations you need to follow the money” COMPLETELY agree with this. whenever I want answers on why things are the way they are I try to follow laws that allow things and money

[@taitsmith8521]

If the CIA or FBI cared about that rhey would have assassinated Bush and Cheney.

[@jarhead21100]

Until you are dealing with extremists. Then you have to follow the power.

[@marcyfox9508]

people dressed in clothes currently made in sweatshops trying to cancel history

[@saysflushable]

That is funny...true....but funny

[@NinjaThatLongboards]

Nobody is trying to cancel history, they're trying to acknowledge the things most people never learned.

[@augia5051]

@@NinjaThatLongboards things like what?

[@NinjaThatLongboards]

@@augia5051 the Tulsa race riot/destruction of black wallstreet, the US breaking every treaty made with native Americans, the fact that Mt Rushmore is carved into the Sioux equivalent of Eden, the actual death toll of the trail of tears, the fact that every confederate state explicitly mentions preservation of slavery in their founding documents, the real breadth and extent of Jim Crow laws, housing discrimination and segregation fueled by racist federal mortgage lending practices and redlining, CIA coups in South America and the number of fascist dictatiors we supported

[@magnus08f250]

anarchy deluxe how uneducated are you? Black Wall Street? Do you mean where a white girl was raped then 11 white men were murdered so the white community retaliated? And bank loan discrimination? The whole reason for the economy collapsing was because the government forced banks to give loans to minorities who were not qualified. You seriously need to educate yourself and quit getting your info from twitter. I’m embarrassed for you.

[@kerodfresenbetgebremedhin1881]

It is kind of scary how everyone has unanimously agreed that the act, however deplorable, had racist intentions.

[@jacobdeem8187]

Kerod Fresenbet Gebremedhin I noticed that also

[@j.kol3491]

Have you seen the leaked video of the officers camera while arresting Floyd? He was crazed and those officers were extremely professional up until Floyd repeatedly asked to be on the ground. He was screaming “I can’t breathe” long before anyone touched his neck. The officers were more than reasonable. It sucks it ended with his death but we were all spoon fed a load of racism bullshit

[@lowkeyliberty7105]

It's amazingly sad that the full truth pertaining to the most divisive incident in modern history was suppressed for this long. We had the totality of the footage from the Rayshard Brooks incident near instantly.

[@jacobdeem8187]

bruh momentum you are correct. I have not

[@trollnips9405]

Everyone who? I agreed that it was wrong a messed up but never agreed he was killed because he was black. He was killed by shitty policing. There's a white guy who died the exact same way that Floyd died but no one talks about it cause he was white.

[@TheAxe4Ever]

It is absolutely ridiculous to apply today’s standards to people from 200+ years ago.

[@daegueric]

Standards pertaining to what?

[@TheAxe4Ever]

Eric N. Everything from what would be considered social norms to laws etc.

[@coolpeopleit]

Ghengis Khan is an excellent example of that. Although he killed many people, it was a very different in it's time to more modern governments like the Soviet Union. Khan conquered a huge territory and became the effective sovereign over thousands of cities. In that time, it was very normal to punish a city which didn't obey it's ruler by putting it under siege or executing huge numbers of it's people. It would be more difficult to argue Ghengis was an angry tyrant when you compare him to the regime's he overthrew, which also killed people without much regard for their lives.

[@daegueric]

I'm just wondering about 12th century Asia versus Western Europe during The Enlightenment. TheAxe makes a point that only reaches so far. Much of what informed The Enlightenment still seem like good sense. I dunno...what do you think? www.history.com/topics/british-history/enlightenment#:~:text=European%20politics%2C%20philosophy%2C%20science%20and,Reason%2C%20or%20simply%20the%20Enlightenment.

[@coolpeopleit]

@@daegueric You still couldn't apply today's European standard's to the Europe's Enlightenment Standard's. The enlightenment was the beginning of the formation of the scientific method, but not it's final form. A lot of the innovator's working on it had the money and resources to sink into an education and to sit around writing a thesis which is very different to today's idea that everyone should have access to higher education in some form, in fact our culture pushes degrees as a prerequisite for many jobs. The judicial system in England and the US would look very different from today, as the standards we hold are very different. The link you provided doesn't deny that, it's just a summary of what the enlightenment was. It doesn't outline the differences between society then and now, as that wasn't it's purpose. Personally I think society is progressing it's laws and equalites faster than ever before, eventually leading to a divide between the populace and legislation.

[@footofjuniper8212]

"It seems so organized." -- How to pretend you're just figuring out what you've known for years.

[@bemotivated8443]

This stuff doesn’t just spring up, BLM may not have a leader in the usual sense of the term but they are organized and (using their own words) are trained Marxists

[@MayorSom]

@@bemotivated8443 surprised you didn't edit your absurd comment to include your second fav buzzword "cultural marxist" 🤣😂

[@jeramysteve3394]

@@MayorSom it's not a buzzword. The figurehead patrice colors admitted to being one.

[@jban9827]

hes constantly high on weed hes not very bright

[@danielcampbell7908]

Good job Joe, thanks for bringing up Lincoln. Never erase history.

[@NotAnnaJones]

Daniel Campbell Joe’s only off by 100 years... haha

[@rantsinpatwa]

removing statues doesn't erase history...

[@leeshepherd4775]

Never trust the msm

[@idmhead0160]

Yeah, especially the ones filled with CIA people.

[@deazults7397]

If you see this I hope you have a very nice day. AMEN

[@vinslungur]

@Joe Stably You too brother, you are both very much appreciated.

[@lknmjh]

You as well

[@jaykob1968]

"Your never pure enough for the self righteous mob" love that line

[@dannyboy3163]

So tired of grown men who can’t say what’s actually in their mind because they’re afraid for anyone to maybe not like them

[@negativeindustrial]

If they just called criminals “criminals”, this twenty minute conversation would be only five minutes long.

[@BAROMETERONE]

Or more concerned about protecting their income stream.

[@dongargon763]

They are afraid the left wing media will destroy their careers and lives ,joe knows how much trouble wrongthink or speak can get you ,the media and the blue check mark nut jobs will come for you ,an allegation does enough damage if it’s repeated enough

[@BAROMETERONE]

@@dongargon763 Sadly accurate. Compromising the truth and holding back deeper understanding. Although I would say this kind of smearing happens regardless of political leanings. It's more about people with integrity vs people without it, that are willing to maintain their false narrative at any cost. Or others that see an opportunity to attack the truther to gain brownie points or some other cookie from the camp that push the false narrative. Too many people have forgotten integrity and courage (or have been compromised to not recognize it anymore). It's what makes the world better IMO.

[@MrRolyat98]

“She’s an odd duck, that lady”. That’s an understatement

[@macklang5722]

@Brian Ross 9rth o8. 6aa3323

[@guyspicks5308]

Rogan: Abraham Lincoln lived in the 1700s, when people wrote with feathers! Schaub: Correct.

[@morelhunter3966]

“100% oh 100% bro.”

[@RizztrainingOrder]

Ahhhhhhhundred percent *exaggerated nod*

[@jasoncooke7849]

I think you’d be surprised.

[@incredulouskirk]

The question isn't how to improve policing, it's how to improve the behavior of citizens.

[@OuroborosChoked]

Want to get rid of cops? Stop committing crimes. Leftists: That sounds _hard._

[@smallmouthfreaks7609]

Exactly.

[@gabmarcipan4573]

I love how every cia/fbi agent looks so stereotypical

[@eddefy22]

Yeah, movies really ducked up the perception in which we view spies. You don’t want a guy stands out, you want the guy to blend in.

[@felipealem6590]

He looks like a CIA agent. Lol. A 52 year old 180lbs White guy. He is Probably 5'9-6'0. He looks like an agent. But who cares a long as you are A good agent its all good.

[@youtubemoderationtaskforce5583]

He looks like a combination of Brian Regan, the comedian, Kevin bacon, the actor, and someone else I can’t think of right now.

[@ukwoodcarver]

felipe alem Seemed a bit wet, don’t you think?

[@jetpipe28]

Ok boomer

[@runswithraptors]

There is a statue of Genghis Khan. It's located in Ulan Bator the capitol of Mongolia and happens to be one of the largest statues in the world.

[@darkangelazure]

Ghegis Khan killed so many people during his conquest that it changed the levels of carbon dioxide emissions and 16 million people can trace their genetics from the Mongol conquest. I would suggest the Khan of Khans series by The History Guy it was riveting & very entertaining!

[@votdfak]

He killed outside Mongolia. Also, not one person gives a fuck about Mongolia.

[@JosephMuin]

@@votdfak Not one?

[@votdfak]

@@JosephMuin Only people making false comparisons with confederate generals. Like Joe does. Do you see any Wehrmacht statues in Germany?

[@votdfak]

Randy Porter then move those into museums, don’t feature those racists on town square

[@jamesseeker1538]

Another side effect of large groups is that the lowest intelligence individuals often become the standard of thought and then they're led by the loudest, often with some sound bite.

[@debramoll7]

So, true. destruction of property is wrong. But why are they blaming Antifa, and Antifa aloney? There are others (with a white supremacist agenda) that are causing damage and rioting. Also, a lot of this destruction is just young men who are misguided and unfortunately, have too much testosterone and too little thinking/respect; and they exist on all sides and and in all corners

[@ksepton]

@Freya Valentina "White supremacy is not real..." Really? You are saying that white supremacy does not exist? Are you kidding? www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2020/08/11/how-a-new-administration-might-better-fight-white-supremacist-violence/ My guess is you don't know about "umbrella man" either: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYObq3yhl9p3e7M&feature=emb_title Turns out, he is a white supremacist: (Here's a quote from the following article: "The tipster identified the man as a Hell's Angels member, and said he "wanted to sow discord and racial unrest by breaking out the windows and writing what he did on the double red doors," reported the Star Tribune. According to Minnesota Public Radio, community members have long suspected that outside extremists were trying to inflame tensions at demonstrations against racism and police brutality in the wake of Floyd's death, with some Twin Cities residents reporting seeing "white supremacist and other far-right imagery on vehicles that came into their neighborhoods during the protests."") www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/28/896515022/minneapolis-police-reportedly-identify-viral-umbrella-man-as-white-supremacist

[@kennethprice8710]

That's exactly how Hitler's political career started in the early 1920's hired by the German army to investigate Bavarian political groups he ended up joining 1 of them and began agitating in public against communist and jews,National socialists were right wing but,their methods were the same as today's Antifa/BLM.

[@mrroberts9230]

The things you are describing do not sound like supremacy at all. What is supreme about those things? Can you please stop calling white criminals, white supremacists? It’s like calling white criminals “white humanitarians”, Isn’t it? Black supremacists and white supremacists are not racists. There is nothing supreme about racism. Words have meanings.

[@jbnoneya386]

I could watch these two all day, I love em. Say what you want about Baker but the guy is smart and knows what to say and how to say it

[@scottmcdonald2046]

Very calculated answers. Not saying he's wrong, but you can see he is choosing words pretty carefully.

[@seosamhfiannachta434]

Conflict has always been part of the human experience. Nations have fought nations, nations have had civil wars. Since the beginning of time there has been slavery throughout the world. There are millions of people in slavery today. Nothing seems to of changed. All the conflict we have right now is not going to change as long as we have large groups wanting to injure one another. We have had long periods of peace in the past. We can have it again if this destructive cycle can be broken through reconciliation and communities learning how to live together even with the differences between us and try to live in a spirit of love and respect. Americans of all different backgrounds and believes are still living in peace now.

[@negativeindustrial]

If they just called criminals “criminals”, this twenty minute conversation would be only five minutes long.

[@NinjaThatLongboards]

The problem with that is people think burning the flag is illegal, nobody knows whats criminal and whats not.

[@dakotajourdan2526]

@@NinjaThatLongboards burning the flag isn't nearly as bad as burning down a city

[@nitacutler4274]

Abraham Lincoln had 38 Indigenous Lakota people hung in Minnesota. Their crime? Defending their home and families.

[@nwcoastlife]

Answer: it had nothing to do with George Floyd. They just co-opted the narrative for their own purposes.

[@wildmaninmt]

Daniel S all these protests were pre-planned, waiting for a police incident. The leaders would fly in and start the trouble. It is obvious they had terrorist cells each of these cities

[@jman75234]

and what are their purposes?

[@observer1906]

They want a civil war based upon the plight of black people so they can create complete dominance over the people, as the parties fight and come to arms for their side of the story, nobody turns their head to lead and attack the real enemy pulling strings behind the curtains, while the market dollar’s value crashes, we become more submissive as we think of a time that was simpler before covid, our comes a false leader with a false message, “things can go back to normal, just take this vaccine, money is digit” the streets will start to calm as we have the option of “normal life” by then the people have already been given to the great deception.

[@bemotivated8443]

These things are all planned look up BLM’s list of demands

[@PaulGaither]

When I say I am in the center, I mean some of the following: I support gay rights and trans and all of that. I support the second amendment and gun ownership. I support a woman's right to choose. I support free market capitalism. Read "Industrial Society and Its Future" and the very start of the book rightly dismantles leftism. Yet when I look at conservatives, I cannot help but ask why the same party that asks for small government and encourages personal responsibility and self reliance and all that... is the same party that wants the government to have to power to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body who you can marry and so on? Both sides disgust me for different reasons, and whenever people try to sucker me into talking politics, it is very interesting to see their reaction as they nod and wake up to the bull shit I point out about how both sides have things VERY correct and other things insanely wrong. Both sides do incredible good for our nation while also actively doing things to undermine our future. Regan supported a strong national defense program and took a hard line on communism... while defunding mental hospitals and allowing the nation's infrastructure to crumble around us and cause rampant homelessness as the mentally ill and put out on the street. Clinton preached "it's the economy stupid" while signing NAFTA,which has done what might be irreversible harm to American workers and aren't countless jobs out of the country. Can we not find some middle ground where we can maybe cut spending on the military industrial complex that Ike warned us about and funnel that money into social programs like mental health clinics and after school programs and NASA? Can we also have strong boarders and fair immigration laws? I hate it when I want to support fiscal conservatism, only to find out that our leaders who share this view also use racial slurs over the phone and back rooms and try to keep people of color oppressed. What are we to do? This is why we cannot have nice things.

[@fitchef40]

How about our right to not choose to get vaccinated!

[@brainwash480]

I'm curious, what leftist politicians besides AOC, Omar, Pressley, and Tlaib do you have to base your claims on that both sides are doing incredible good but undermining our future? I don't see a lot of leftist politicians in our federal government today, just a bunch of center-right libs.

[@aaronthoming8192]

I'm a centrist as well, its just that I see "a women's body, women's right" as a euphemism for killing another individual who has a right to live. Other then that, agree with a lot you said.

[@PaulGaither]

@@brainwash480 - I appreciate your question, but I am not going to write an essay here, despite how long my first post was. I already sourced a great read for you, "Industrial Society and Its Future". That is not the only thing and do not agree 100%, but it will better answer your question. Secondly, we can talk about the local levels, county levels, district levels, state levels and federal levels. For example, look up "Crisis in our classrooms" and what is happening in Portland Oregon. It is not the same across the nation, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening, and it is the direct result of leftist policies.

[@PaulGaither]

@@aaronthoming8192 - That is fair and we can have that debate as a society. It is not as cut and dry as people want to make it out to be. Do you define the division of cells as human life? If so, would the removal of cancer be an abortion? Would the amputation of a limb be abortion? I think that is ridiculous for me to compare, but it is the first step in the talk, as early stage pregnancy is ONLY the division of cells. As a second step, nature has its own forms of abortion in al species including humans. That is essentially what a miscarriage is in simplified terms. Is the mother murdering her child? Should she be arrested for that occurring? If not, then where does one draw the line between natual abortion and induced abortion? I don't want to get into it in too much detail here, but let me assure you that is is not nearly as simple as your initial reply seems to try to make it. Even the supreme court ruled on abortion at different terms of pregnancy, and the science continues to come in. Oh, and while I have your attention, the subject of stem cell research is crazy as well. "Scientists at major universities and government labs have quietly been using fetal tissue for decades. They say it is an invaluable tool for certain types of research, including the study of eye diseases, diabetes and muscular dystrophy. Nevertheless, some agree to talk about it only if their names and their universities’ names are withheld, because they have received threats of violence from abortion opponents. Companies that obtain the tissue from clinics and sell it to laboratories exist in a gray zone, legally. Federal law says they cannot profit from the tissue itself, but the law does not specify how much they can charge for processing and shipping." Essentially, there are hospitals around the nation which profit from abortions. At what point does a doctor stand to gain financially from encouraging an abortion over procedures or options to keep the baby when a desperate mother is seeking advice? It gets really messed up.

[@ivangreen7591]

There is a very large statue of Genghis Khan in Mongolia, he is a National Hero.

[@zachinthehat1707]

#cancelmongolia

[@shanehackett4683]

Genghis Kahn won tho. He was a conqueror. The Confederates weren't just Slavers and Traitors, they were losers.

[@CalebD3232]

He built an empire in one lifetime, that started as nomadic steppes tribeman, and all that encompasses. Read up on it. His accomplishments are insane.

[@johnappice4619]

Shane Hackett They should replace Confederate statues with Christopher Columbus statues that guy was a winner

[@Bradlifer]

@@johnappice4619 that's a joke lol

[@jetpipe28]

Finally some sanity.

[@Brosky1998]

This guy is glowing so much I had to turn my brightness all the way down

[@franktaylor7978]

Sometimes joe should learn to read people. This man was about to say some important things and joe talks over him.

[@Bobby.2000]

Was just thinking exactly the same thing!

[@mikekoch9810]

Joe took $100M to censor certain topics or shape them in a way to fit an agenda. He’s changed so much in like 5 years.

[@Xykaru]

@@mikekoch9810 Yo hook us up with a background to this info

[@boTCavalry]

Peaceful Hooligan just watch his old shows.

[@jon-christiankaczor5384]

Well it kinda is Joe's podcast

[@freespeechless380]

This guy is a CIA operative. Still operating

[@The_General_Zubas]

"Former" CIA

[@Stickybobby]

@Jorge M. Canavati it's not like the movies my man

[@kingoftampa]

In Poor Taste i think it was just a clever Godfather reference

[@theyaregone]

Once cia they never quit

[@papaluskask999]

@@The_General_Zubas "We cheat we lie, we steal ." Mike Pompeo & CIA. Why would anyone believe this guy & his bullshit????

[@fighm]

"Well we very rarely organized things like this.." ..bruh

[@joshuajones634]

Mike totally owns the rest of the conversation after the first 20 seconds. Interesting to watch how he navigates the conversation.

[@nathanhernandez2812]

Wow. They didn’t mentioned “Operation Mockingbird”.

[@DhrSalim]

This was a mockingbird operation named MK Rogan

[@bucktownxxx]

You better stop talkin NH....LoL.... Mockinbirddddd >:)

[@parmesan3739]

No, the majority of the Confederate monuments were put up to commemorate the 50 and 100 year anniversaries of the Civil War, not for intimidation purposes. The guest was right that many statues were put up to help heal the country. Believe it or not, taking them down is picking at scabs. Many of us still honor our ancestors, and it's causing a lot of pain and anger taking them down.

[@Nandoswitharando]

You honor slave owners and racists? That’s part of the problem

[@TheGosslings]

It is valuable listening to the enemy. "He who knows himself and his enemy will win."

[@SeanStPayne]

If ppl would teach their kids to respect authority....nevermind...parents dont even teach their kids what authority means

[@SeanStPayne]

@Jeremy Honeycutt this is why i support abortion all the way up to the 99th trimester

[@tmac8892]

Lincoln with a feather in the 1700s wrote the magna carta.

[@AC-rp6fl]

t mac and the bible!

[@1666jordan]

Young Jamie shot that text under the table real quick when Joe said Abe Lincoln in the 1700s lol. Good friend!

[@brandonchapman4922]

You saw that too 😉

[@paulstella8443]

That was my first thought. Good shih

[@paulstella8443]

Richard Miller - who’s not relaxed here? The original commenter noted that Jamie was a “good friend” to remind Joe of his mistake. The rest of the comments, including mine, are all in support of the original. I think everyone’s relaxed here except you.

[@scoopwiththeloup9970]

joe interviewing his handler lol

[@wjgoh653]

hahahaha...cool!

[@JD24230]

If Lincoln could see 2020, he’d have sent em all back.

[@joerodriguez3002]

Hahahaha so dumb.

[@dvg4104]

Did he kinda foresee the disaster that would happen, and he was in favor of repatriation of the former slaves.

[@KevinsDisobedience]

“Well...we very rarely organized stuff like this...”

[@granttoye5852]

"What it should have been, was a protest that meaningfully affected people's lives" "Trying to judge people of the past by current standards" amazing! This interview might be the best one he's ever done.

[@reaganbaby2847]

I take it that these guys haven’t watched the FULL BODYCAM VIDEO? Everyone need to watch the full video!!!

[@BillyJoe71]

I know right.

[@BlueprintsForHeadaches]

Why though ?

[@reaganbaby2847]

Blueprints For Headaches why haven’t they watched it?

[@BlueprintsForHeadaches]

Reagan Baby no why does everyone need to watch it ?

[@reaganbaby2847]

Blueprints For Headaches because it’s evidence and the media pushes propaganda. Everyone needs to do their own research. Everyone needs to watch it!

[@ProWebster]

20:09 lol this aged perfectly

[@alexmacdiver]

Why break into Court: "To destroy someones court records"

[@alexmacdiver]

Bill Gates Wrap Sheet . . .

[@sashmiel6566]

Federal court deals with corruption on state and local levels.

[@ronaldhansen3499]

Wrong, sure, may be true with zero historical frame of reference, but the center is now "Moderate Republican".

[@AnnaMishel]

The is a saying that “some people just like to watch things burn”. They’re part of the Dark Triad.

[@joeduff8761]

The joker

[@jac9301]

If you're going to post quotes a least Google them.......it's from Alfred in batman.

[@colinfoster7655]

Lincoln offered to not mess with slavery in any state that returned to the Union by January 1, 1863. Emancipation was merely a tactic in an overall strategy to force the South to heel, and then even at that he did not want them punished or crushed further once defeated. History is more complicated and fascinating than most realize.

[@stevenmennella7579]

Hey Joe, check out Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals", then you may understand their mindset and methodology.

[@daverlb]

Good call! Likewise 8 steps for social control... we are literally at the door of number 8 right now, having completed every other.

[@jesseterrell9354]

Probably only 1% of the rioters know really why they are there and what they are trying to do that means the vast majority have no clue they are what the leftists call useful idiots.

[@immanueldarjean5050]

Plenty of white supremacist jacking peaceful protest. Faux news and donald chump don't talk about that tho!!!

[@jesseterrell9354]

Immanuel Darjean lol that’s few and far between bud

[@immanueldarjean5050]

@@jesseterrell9354 Its actually more wide spread than thought. The FBI just made a large report about it. Most protesters are wanting change, it sucks when some (black, white or purple) make trouble. Mostly young losers of any race !!!

[@zane2664]

Imagine trying to explain to Abe Lincoln about gender pronouns, intersectionalism, and critical race theory. He would of allowed the South to succeed and moved there.

[@robertmcgrawmcgraw6246]

Makes ya wounder what their teaching the kids cause they know nothing about history .

[@darenmiller2218]

Thomas Shelby said it perfectly. Politics is like a circle. Go far enough left or right and you’ll end up in the same spot.

[@lowkeyliberty7105]

Abe Lincoln 1700's? Lol Edit: Jamie saved him lol

[@BlueprintsForHeadaches]

Oh like you knew without googling it yourself

[@lowkeyliberty7105]

@@BlueprintsForHeadaches Uhhh, what? If you don't know about when Lincoln was president there's definitely a LOT you don't know.

[@BlueprintsForHeadaches]

LowKey Liberty bruh stop lying we all know U googled it

[@lowkeyliberty7105]

@@BlueprintsForHeadaches Hahaha. I appreciate your troll attempt. Did you know that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson both died on the same day? And it was july 4th of all days. Either 1824 or 1826, can't remember. John Adams isn't talked about much but he never owned a slave and is the reason we have 2 chambers of congress to prevent concentration of power by one political party. Certain things about American History are just commonly known.

[@BlueprintsForHeadaches]

LowKey Liberty touché

[@seanself75]

If you forget your history you are bound to repeat it. Those statues mean different things to different people. They are reminders of lessons you have learned from the victories and failures of the person memorialized. This is literally insane.

[@dominicwalker1899]

I heard a quote which said "People who rewrite history, are hoping you forget history, so they can repeat history"

[@Nandoswitharando]

How is taking down that statue forgetting history? We don’t have history class in school anymore? Libraries? Google???

[@carltrano1325]

“Wellll We very rarely organize things like thisssss” lmao that’s Exactly what you were doing.

[@kensurrency2564]

Sounds like an admission

[@journeyman378]

Keep Abraham Lincoln but get rid of Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis!

[@nikko.lottsahcocc6917]

It’s all just fkn concrete my man... there’s much more important real issues out there that need us Americans to address.. chasing old statues is absolutely pointless and will not change anything (as we can now see) .. knocking down statues is exactly what the elite social engineers and their politician lackeys want you all to be doing.. much better for the mob to be going after concrete statues of dead men who did bad things than the CURRENTLY ALIVE BAD MEN WHO ARE FUCKING OVER THE UNDERCLASSES! ... They are rubbing their hands together like birdman!!! Wake up!!!

[@journeyman378]

@@nikko.lottsahcocc6917 absolutely, but if you gonna get rid of some, get rid of traitors!

[@journeyman378]

@Scott Bromberg if we gonna put u Lee we might as well put up Hitler! What's the difference?

[@journeyman378]

@Scott Bromberg Lee comitted treason!

[@journeyman378]

@Scott Bromberg TREASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ultimanecat3091]

Joe “I’m 0.01% Mongolian” Rogan

[@aurora3067]

We all are

[@simonemurray1345]

God damn mongorians tore down my chitty wall!

[@RaginPooh]

We all are. 😂

[@dougfreeman4960]

"Abraham Lincoln lived in the 1700s"-Joe Rogan

[@mafistowaltz4857]

The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided Not to see - Ayn Rand

[@robertsludock]

Everyone's nervous these days, Ronald McDonald hired six bodyguards, and that was just to protect his buns! -Bob Hope

[@mikek6658]

Love to see whole interview but will NEVER give spotify a dime

[@chrisdab-]

You don't need to subscribe to Spotify to see the interviews. They are free on their platform.

[@mikek6658]

@@chrisdab- didnt know that. Thank you

[@smutler9850]

Glad to see Joe "I used to have a bit about Iraq" has cut out the middleman and gets the message directly from the CIA :-)

[@Irockskinnieslol1]

Joe “Abraham Lincoln lived in the 1700’s, give the guy a break” Rogan

[@Irockskinnieslol1]

James Smith lol I don’t disagree with joe’s view on Abraham Lincoln, I’m just poking a little fun

[@nathanmelton1376]

@James Smith I think his point is that Abraham Lincoln lived in the 1800s, not the 1700s.

[@bungalowwil]

@@nathanmelton1376 Correct.

[@benp4877]

Beat me to it. Damn it. Well played.

[@felipealem6590]

This guy talks in circles.

[@THamm-xt8jm]

First Last it’s true though this dude adds too many words to his dialogue

[@christinajackson3461]

I think this is the beginning of the end of The JRE. Now that's he's being coerced into having who "they" want on his show it's going downhill fast.

[@felipealem6590]

@@christinajackson3461 I was thinking the same thing. He needs to go back to his origion. More Interesting guest and less bullshit artists. This agent straight bullshiter.

[@HYSTERIA-we6fg]

The more you pander to these people throwing tantrums the more they will do it.

[@andresespin3634]

16:14 we “very rarely” organize things like these

[@erikbynum1]

ITS HISTORY!!! Literally none of the people that are pissed experienced the things they’re pissed about!! They’re pissed about something that they’ve never seen first hand and only know about in story form!!!

[@fredsilversmith1032]

Well put!

[@leroywilson8568]

You’re stupid

[@erikbynum1]

Leroy Wilson that’s for sure!! But atleast I’m not a Democrat!! Things could always be worse

[@shadowman9661]

"I think the answer is somewhere in the center" Me, a centrist: 🤦‍♂️

[@doejohnathon3487]

The Khan not only opened up trade with China but he also opened up trade with the Middle East and he started the first reliable pony Express

[@meonimoon7849]

Yea Portland used to be a beautiful place!!!! Going down fast.

[@CherishLove2]

Why?

[@777jones]

sukt00 in Minneapolis we have fourth rate copies of your Portland leadership.

[@meonimoon7849]

@@sukt00 you forgot the increased homelessness and filth like human urine and feces and dirty needles everywhere.

[@fleadoggreen9062]

I wish I was young again! Idk if I’d be for or against the protesters,I just wish I was in my 20’ or 30’, just enjoy life ,exercise, first thing I’d do is dump all my friends, found out the hard way they were just bringing me down, not all but most

[@gregowen2377]

I'm sorry, I find it hard to agree with removing Confederate statues, under a false pretense that all these men were evil? Imagine if your capable union soldiers upending a farm, his family, his neighbors and burning years of hard work to the ground, while raping, beating, and killing those trying to defend all they know and love. Would one actually expect them to join the union army? Keep in mind there was no fast track correspondence at the time, so not everyone is to even know exactly what the purpose of the war really is, except they understand right and wrong! Now erase this farmer's (soldier) history and tell his ancestors what he fought for was wrong? Quite possibly not knowing anything of the politics, but recognizing clearly right from wrong! One can not apply our current internet capabilities with 1800s! In truth we can't fathom every scenario of the time, but of course what you pull up on your computer surly explains the evil south!! With no depth of thought and possibility your just judging things you cannot know! To condemn one general discredits all who died for reasons that clearly illude your imagination!

[@AnthonySforza]

I actually had ancestors who were brothers (Well, one was my ancestor) that lived in Kentucky and fought on separate sides. One (My ancestor) went to fight for the USA because it was "The right thing to do" and his brother fought for the USC because he was protecting their homeland... "Because someone has to."

[@gregowen2377]

@@AnthonySforza well said, Anthony. Nobody was wrong!

[@dariustee8478]

Joe thinks Abraham Lincoln lived in the 1700s

[@pbrad08]

Joe “Abraham Lincoln lived in the 1700s” Rogan

[@asherray4969]

Gahahahaha

[@TimWing23]

Have you guys heard of the beef between the Anti-Semite's and the Yo-Semite's?

[@BlueprintsForHeadaches]

I don’t even know what either of those things are tbh

[@TimWing23]

@@BlueprintsForHeadaches lol well an anti-semite is someone who has prejudice/hate towards jewish people. And Yo-Semite is a what Trump called Yosemite today. he pronounced it wrong so the media and twitter are having a field day with it. So I made a little joke

[@grubbybum3614]

@@TimWing23 if Twitter is having a field day, it's probably not worth anybody's time

[@IntoTheVoid96]

I'm going to call the black Israelites Yo-semites now.

[@TimWing23]

@@IntoTheVoid96 lol good one

[@MrBobbyz24]

Quit inviting a professional liar onto the show.

[@johnfarmer4099]

This show itself is about swaying public opinion. Guess who some of the sponsors are.

[@gizzad]

Yeah, Joe is getting a little questionable these days.

[@joshlips9661]

I love seeing Joe Rogan ads before the JRE

[@bobinthewest8559]

If you don't know history, you can't learn from it... and, "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it." (Not sure of its origin, but we've all heard that quote) So, yeah... let's tear down statues, and all traces of history, etc. Seems legit

[@DonkeyKongBMAC]

Joe “Abraham Lincoln was from the 1700’s” Rogan

[@REVERSESARCASM]

The Civil War should put most people to a different place in time. Why is the history learned in high school no longer common knowledge? The older l become younger people know less about the past. Is this normal or is this process speeding up. Perhaps one day in the future, the norm will be that people will not be able to remember what happened last week.

[@REVERSESARCASM]

Just knowing when the camera was invented would be a clue.

[@MrSaulTNutz]

Joe Rogan: I just don't understand As a multimillionaire, you never will either.

[@MrSaulTNutz]

@Andrew A Oh word? So people weren't buying houses in the 60's for $12-18,000? The price of everything has gone up. Wages haven't.

[@hacker4chn841]

Hot take: there should be a statue of James Longstreet in every town in the south. Look it up - he actually was supportive of the reconstruction efforts post and later served in several US government positions