Joe Rogan - What's the Difference Between a Cult and a Religion?

[@YngolSonofYsgramor]

Less than 2 minutes in and immediately moses was on DMT. This is the best podcast ever

[@nunyabizzz1135]

Wtf..joe is obsessed with dmt..

[@matthewcarl82]

Fuk I wanna try dmt‼

[@deinemuddamithut]

@@matthewcarl82 then do it xD

[@matthewcarl82]

@@deinemuddamithut I dont know where to get that shit from😒 Only if Rogan hooked me up🤣

[@harrisonwalker105]

mc8 it’ll definitely change your life my friend

[@Milkra]

Moses being on DMT just might be the most Joe Rogan topic ever

[@noname-tf7kq]

He keeps mentioning that but according to biologists, the acacia tree didn't even grow in that region. He should have Reza aslan on the podcast imo

[@Quickturealeyes]

Mr. Matt it’s actually native to Negev and Sinai, which is the general region where Moses is thought to have encountered the burning bush. So...

[@noname-tf7kq]

@@Quickturealeyes From what I've seen most scholars believe it is the Rubus sanctus plant indeed, but not the variant that "burns" which is the vapour, called "Dictamnus albus". Robus sanctus is also found at the base of Sinai at the Basilica. I am really interested in the biological or botanus references you can point to though...

[@cayetano6547]

@@noname-tf7kq those "scientists" and experts will find a way around that inconvenient fact...maybe they'll find the answer in their next DMT trip

[@YourNorthstarr]

LMAO IKR

[@bradlackey64]

"When your cult gets called a religion... You've made it"

[@prometheus5405]

lol awesome

[@reesee9669]

Its all about the 501c tax deduction.

[@NewLife-Ronita]

That's a good one

[@ralphheimburger1447]

@@reesee9669 The church of perpetual exemption..

[@jordanaguilar284]

I like how this has 666 likes (not changing it)

[@CarlosAlvarezli]

"anybody with power is gonna be in danger of abusing it...." Now that is the best phrase I will take to heart forever

[@SeC-q9m]

Dont worry about it too much, you'll never get it

[@CarlosAlvarezli]

@alikzandergreata2115 it's not just the angels as messengers but the central figure and it's avatar constructing divine influence but those in charge of the rules are prone to abuse of power through corruption of negative influences of repressed thoughts

[@philipm4799]

listening to people not consistently interrupting each other is so refreshing

[@scottycranwell283]

T.H.A.N.K. Y.O.U. !!!!

[@harborwolf22]

This guy is amazing. Joe was a tiny bit overwhelming right at first, but it was such a good interview.

[@Troupe426]

@@harborwolf22 my thoughts exactly, joe had me cringing at first...he was super defensive right off the bat. great topic and interview.

[@s0bad]

Are you serious? Joe was constantly throwing the guy off track at every point he was trying to make

[@russbilderback]

@@s0bad he does that constantly.

[@elsworth8078]

This is a perfect example of 2 adults, having a discussion on something they have different views on, but are able to discuss them, be open minded, and actually listen to each other.

[@alop9535]

like ass or tits

[@ShawnLincoln360]

It's pretty rare to see this in this "Cancel Culture" era.

[@rockymntnliberty]

It's kind of interesting, I have noticed I can have a very strong disagreement with another Republican / conservative / libertarian and we can very civilly articulate our arguments back and forth. On the other hand, trying to have a similar argument / discussion with a leftist is usually impossible. They will usually not argue facts and specific cases, but will argue only generalities and emotions. When they do use facts or figures it's very Cherry picked and misleading. A good example of this was yesterday a discussion on equal pay for women. The leftist kept arguing the statistics that annual salaries for women are less than men, but would totally ignore how this statistic does a not reflect the amount of hours of worked or the type of work being done. So the statistic they want to use compares annual pay for a part-time McDonald's worker with a 60 hour a week oilfield worker.

[@chadphelps5809]

Really? Bc joe interrupted Brett 5 or so times In the first minute

[@impetrichor2695]

I don't think Joe listened to a word Bret said

[@beatleplayer1011]

Man I thought the Rogan DMT memes were getting old and my man comes out with “Moses was on DMT and created Judaism”

[@Quickturealeyes]

beatleplayer1011 I mean it makes more sense than hearing “the voice of God” out of thin air

[@kaya727]

He's been saying that for almost a decade lol

[@MnemonicHeadTrip]

It’s definitely likely

[@oldnelson4298]

@@MnemonicHeadTrip It's more plausible than a bush was on fire for no reason and also it was God talking to him.

[@MnemonicHeadTrip]

Acacia trees/bushes are common in that part of the world, it’s just as likely imo

[@Projektshin]

i have mad respect for how they can have an ACTUAL DISCUSSION on completely contrasting viewpoints... if only this type of mutual respect was more commonplace between two parties... you can't even disagree with someone nowadays without going into extreme territories

[@sofarokintn8166]

And no f-bombs, very civil discussion

[@DavidEdwards-e6m]

Cos We're not being paid handsomely to debate

[@jonamwoza3665]

It's entirely possible a buddy of mine did DMT while eating elk meat. Pull that up Jamie.

[@Jamesuni]

HAHAHAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAA

[@jeremygilmore3208]

100%

[@windmillwilly]

It's entirely possible that a buddy of mine saw a ripped chimp on DMT eating elk meat, can you pull that up Jamie

[@crowtservo]

A buddy of mine ate elk meat from an elk who was using DMT.

[@lordofthered1257]

For real though f dmt elk meat slaps

[@robbietillman]

Bret: “So you’ve done some hallucinogens” Joe: “Oh yeah”

[@TyroneBiggums789]

im dead

[@thedukeofdunhurst6377]

Yeah I've done my share

[@Neckphone]

as this was said i read this

[@unbalancedlibra9788]

takota w I love when that happens

[@Christian-os3sh]

I've used psychos maybe 10 times and never got anything coherent out of it. I'd rather be on speed and talk to people all night.

[@danielortega4957]

He understands how to disagree and not be emotional about it

[@aj200415]

Yeah....unless he actually cares about it and it has something to do with him....then he’s VERY emotional and won’t listen and argues to death....just listen to the Steven Crowder podcast when Joe brought up weed....he wouldn’t listen to any point Steven had and resorted to raising his voice to the point of yelling over him and not listening, and started calling him a bitch and a pussy.

[@danielortega4957]

@@aj200415 ok

[@aj200415]

Daniel Ortega I’m just saying. I absolutely freaking love Joe and his podcasts, I listen to at LEAST one of his podcasts or a clip once a day, but this is the truth. When it comes to his weed, there are many many podcasts where as soon as his weed is brought up most if not all of his ability to listen or have a discussion goes out the window. He just seems to lock down and plug his ears and goes on his same spiel he does in every single podcast when it’s brought up. I’m just saying this is his one weakness in his podcasts. But I still love Joe and love his podcasts and discussions.

[@danielortega4957]

@@aj200415 ok

[@umamagei]

@@aj200415 yeah that's an unfortunate consequence, i wouldn't assume but it's very similar to the way an addict will defend their behaviour to the bitter end, i'm big into weed and i believe its a very positive drug, less dangerous than smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol, but it definitely has an addictive effect just like any behaviour, you can go through heavy withdrawal's which are not fun, so i think he feels attacked when people criticise weed because it's basically his "medication", it's also reflective of his passion for the topic, just like if i said your favourite movie or band sucks ass, you'd most likely jump straight to defending it with emotion because it has that emotional connection in your brain, obviously no one knows but Joe himself but he could do better to try and remain calm and centred. Edit: Joe is also high as fuck in the Crowder interview so that would definitely affect his inhibitions.

[@2ndmoon]

It's when you watch these older videos that you realize how much joe has improved in letting others talk and just listen

[@samg1884]

Joe’s kid’s first words: D-d-d-DMT is produced in the pineal gland

[@jammbbs1688]

The fact that our children and even us where fed their whole lives fluoride ( which is a by product of making aluminum) that turns our pineal gland in our brain into scar tissue says something cuz it's also believed that our imagination and such stems from the pineal glad but we are fed shit all the time to kill it...

[@studiorose11]

Jacob Stech this is wild

[@hoyesnimtalas734]

Jacob Stech whoaaa. that’s crazy and scary. 😳why can’t i read the rest of your comment though? :(

[@jammbbs1688]

To kill it..... Is the rest of my comment lol

[@hoyesnimtalas734]

Epic I’m not, my phone wasn’t showing me the rest of the comment. Stop being rude.

[@YTW-rw6pr]

When he called the pope some dude who dresses like a wizard I lost it 🤣🤣🤣

[@datapatch7381]

is he not a wizard?

[@archangeljesus4369]

Jehovah's Witnesses are the true religion.

[@multiplepassions3694]

@@archangeljesus4369 lmao you’re in the wrong comment section buddy

[@shawnchristianson324]

@@archangeljesus4369 I used to think the same, but it is 100% a cult

[@archangeljesus4369]

@@shawnchristianson324 Jehovah's Witnesses are the true worshipers wether you believe it or not.

[@murlyn2]

What I find most amazing about Joe Rogan is his constant interest and respect of the guest’s opinions even when he obviously does not agree at all. He stays calm and wants to hear more of an opposing opinion. His skills are probably under appreciated by most of the public.

[@deborahdicembre9579]

Agree. The anti-oprah

[@GWAForUTBE]

Openmindedness is the key to learning.

[@ResidentRaccoon]

Respect? Is that what you call his opening statements on Catholicism? Wtf interview were you listening to

[@murlyn2]

@@ResidentRaccoon the good one where the interviewer is better than most in the world and not worried about some people’s sensitivities about a broken religion that to many sheep follow and support blindly.

[@juwonroberts8622]

@@ResidentRaccoon no fr I love joe but sometimes he doesn’t even let someone talk

[@elianijah]

He says religions that have stood the test of time must have had a significant meaning to people to do so...I imagine fear of being burnt or imprisoned for life for believing in anything else might have had something to do with it's staying power as well.

[@HCRBerhan]

The religions that grew were the ones who made themselves an enterprise with interests in becoming a monopoly. Wanna make deals with a Catholic? Become Catholic! You still believe in your old religion, but your kids will be taught that any other belief is sinful.

[@Twofacex2]

Christianity in particular peaks your interest with that fear by telling you that you will burn forever if you aren’t a believer, then when you start making an effort to follow it, you realize the internal themes are more centered on love and acceptance which eases your worry and prompts you to follow it. Therefore you completely disregard your rational form of thought around it just cause it makes you feel like you fit in. Why I’ve always viewed it as a weak man’s religion.

[@RayBetterThanEvilCanival]

Is Religion a cult? Joe: “Yes, and let me tell you about DMT”

[@domja9389]

He talks love everyone but I ain't seen a dime of that 100 mil..

[@yarbgreat1]

Brett's internal dialogue "can I get back to my point please".

[@princevegeta7487]

Hahahahaha

[@steampunk_cat5592]

he didnt have a point, he said cults are supernatural beliefs used to exploit people, yet doesnt acknowledge either scientology or catholicism are cults, yet they both are unproven supernatural beliefs, and are used to exploit people for resources

[@mitchellmahurin3465]

@@steampunk_cat5592 he did have a point though, he said that those institutions havent negativity impacted their massive amounts of followers so the word "cult" isnt a correct term. I understand where you're coming from but I agree that cult isnt the right terminology.

[@NELLYB]

Mitchell Mahurin that depends on what your goals are. Ofcourse if your book says what your doing is good, you’ll think your doing good. This is where joes question comes up again. “Is it for the good of the people who are apart of the plan or is it for the plan itself.” And no matter how much Christianity touts its humanity card so much, ultimately your nothing if you don’t put god above all else. As soon as you introduce god and the need to adore him you immediately become a cult. You can disagree, but why would you want to willingly be incorrect?

[@saxondespens7271]

​@@NELLYB the church donates millions and runs schools and hospitals

[@ebf336]

Joe "I can connect literally anything to DMT" Rogan

[@amyrogers7047]

You are not kidding..😂

[@tonyg490]

He does but I'm assuming most people that make these jokes have never tried it.

[@amyrogers7047]

@@tonyg490 why do you assume that? 🤷

[@amyrogers7047]

I get that there is a veiled reference that many people probably don't even get, when you're using the word connection in reference to DMT..

[@SaltyCado]

@@amyrogers7047 I definitely can, but that just shows how many things can actually come back to it. That's why it's so natural

[@wizeeyz]

The more I listen to Brett the more I realize that Eric is the smart one in the family. Joe's 100% right about this. Brent didn't even consider the cognitive dissonance that comes into play when a society gets brainwashed for generations.

[@johnnytucker6709]

The notion that society as a whole has been brainwashed because of a belief system that they adhere to, because that belief system has stood the test of time due to its utility, is a rather myopic opinion. To right off all of religion to "brainwashing" seems to me, is far more of a stretch to believe, rather than believing or understanding that religions, regardless of whether or not they were truly "divine", had profound utility. And if you have to resort to an ad hominem attack (basically calling Brett Weinstein, of all people, dumb) in an attempt to discredit them (and ipso facto their opinion(s)), then you must not be very confident in your opposition. Which begs the question... Why not? Talk about cognitive dissonance...

[@delicious_seabass]

Of course its only brainwashing when its ideas you don't approve of, right? You don't think atheists exhibit cognitive dissonance? They're all just perfectly rational people? Don't assume that you have all the answers and if everyone just followed your morals, ethics and ideas, the world would be a perfect place. Most people, even atheists, appear to be predisposed to some sort of spirituality, and if that's the case, then they will fill that void with something.

[@Endrick-real]

😂😂 y'all feel pretty smart when you use words like fallacy and dissonance

[@noahlenten8360]

joe is absolutely and clearly in the wrong here. "i think all ideology's are cults" is a hilariously ignorant we're all, always, all the time, subject to ideology. there are fundamental and absurd assumptions underlying all of our thought processess and actions. im not a theoretical physicist or scientist, but i do understand that our entire basis of science and knowledge is based on fundamental assumptions (i think its stuff like we assume passage of time or motion idk). at the end of the road we're all subject to ideology wether its heavens gate, catholicism, mormonism, capitalism, communism. he's stuck in semantics there is a purpose to differentiating religions and cults im an atheist too i think a great deal of catholic practices are much more reflective of a cult than a religion, but regardless its a significant and important distinction.

[@gooser2583]

According to biblical scholars; Moses also went bow hunting, ate elk meat and did jiu-jitsu.

[@scottycranwell283]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 comment from NZ!! Does that make Brendan Schaub 'Aaron'? 😂😂😂

[@blairehninger9412]

We’ll call him ‘Joeses’

[@DjPailor250]

It's the Joe Rogan cult doctorine and rule

[@winstonchurchill624]

Wairua Tapu Moses actually parted the Red Sea because Egypt was out of DMT.

[@chevyDboyMike]

And had a podcast

[@HRHDinaMarie]

Good on this guy for actively engaging in a tough conversation. Not saying he's right or wrong. That's a tough spot and he engaged...

[@tregggabbard6917]

Right?! I keep seeing people Crap on this guy but I think he was awesome. Didn't shy from talking about the hard shit.

[@Ozfreerider_adventures]

It was only a hard conversation for one guy .. the one who was very inconsistent on his interpretation of facts and had to constantly figure out mid conversation why his logic did apply to one religion or cult but not another. That's why he had a hard time ! Joe was very clear and had facts to back up everything he said ready to go with no bullshit backtracking like the other guy

[@Razzy1312]

Yeah, he definitely took the short end of the debating stick.

[@justinmartin4662]

Of course he's either right or wrong.. He's making a statement claiming that the religious institutions in place are there because they work, and only made it because they make society better, stronger, and less corrupt, including the need to keep itself from becoming corrupt. Anyone that has studied the history of the Catholic Church especially should be able to provide enough examples from a period of 19 centuries on why that is complete bullshit. He also talks about priests passing down their genetics through their influence over their flock and how they effect the outcome of their lives, which doesn't make any sense. Genes aren't an intellectual concept, its a part of us physically, its why we have the characteristics we have like eye and hair color, and even if we are more susceptible to various diseases and are passed down from our parents, the reason why people often look like their parents. The reason why Christianity is so widespread and ingrained, especially in the Western world is due to the fact that for around 1000 years or so, if you were a pagan and lived within marching distance of a Christian population large enough to put together an army there was a good chance you would be invaded, and if you didn't convert you would be executed in some of the most cruel, horrifying, and disgusting methods I've ever heard of, and I've studied war for years.. Claiming that there have been rules and structure put in place to stop corruption, to keep priests celibate, and prevent them from getting rich are just ignorant and how he claims they have been so insightful, otherwise other groups that think the same as they do without the mistake would gain influence.. He must not ever fact check his own thoughts, or do any research. There are thousands of denominations of Christianity now, Catholics and Protestants have been warring and killing each other up until just a few decades ago and now they have to put up walls to keep each other separate. Meanwhile there ARE Catholic priests that are married, priests in Africa are disgustingly corrupt and do great harm to their own flock while the Vatican seems that they couldn't care less, Bishops are living in million dollar apartments with their art alone worth tens of millions using the church bank to hide their wealth and they don't seem to do any good for society. When they do implement change, its often long after others have done so and they join the procession at the tail end and as Mark Twain pointed out, never forget to take credit for the change in the first place. They, like the Bible were pro-slavery, until most of the world had outlawed it, they were very anti-gay and responsible for the UK especially keeping homosexuality illegal until the 1950s, but of course now like to act as if they are tolerant, and that even gays are God's children. I could probably fill a book just explaining how wrong this guy is when it comes to the Catholic Church, and several others with the other cults out there. The definition, being "a group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister." easily meets the definition that most would probably agree with. The main reason why the cult of Christianity survived till now is because its always been about power over belief, if they stuck to their beliefs and tried to preach and practice the religion as its supposed to be practiced as the Bible commands, and what was far closer to being actual Christianity until the enlightenment civilized it a bit there would either be far less Catholics, or the world would be a far more horrible place to live in. Society isn't doing good because of these institutions, they are thriving despite them.

[@veggiesarefruits]

That's why I love Bret Weinstein. He's not afraid to engage, and he doesn't back down when he believes something is wrong. Weinstein for President 2020!

[@jennifershowalter7567]

Joe “I received the same messages as Moses when I did DMT” Rogan

[@classicrocklover5615]

I think had Moses had a DMT experience on the mountain, then came down to find people worshipping a golden calf, he would not have reacted in anger. It would have just seemed to be a continuation of the DMT experience.

[@jeffreyyoungblood7438]

@@classicrocklover5615 Joe's explanation of Moses experience was the worst I've ever heard. I'd have to be really high to find it insightful or believable.

[@biesman5]

Lmao

[@royalcooper2489]

Lmao

[@soulof6742]

Joe " The Zohar" Rogan

[@homicidalgeorge]

i think they’re the same thing. by definition a religion is a cult but just because it’s a cult doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing. there’s a stigma to that word that if you call something a cult it automatically means people gathering around in black robes and sacrificing babies to the dark lord. a cult just means a group of people who worship something/someone it doesn’t always have to be malicious.

[@pointlessmanatee]

I have a feeling you are a cult leader.

[@michaelstarr9812]

the difference between a Cult and a Religion is what happens when you want to LEAVE.

[@Fredrikbb]

so Islam is a cult then?

[@temporarymomentary]

@@Fredrikbb It is and is a violent cult. One of the most brutal. I still don't understand why it is even legal.

[@tothboy01]

And Christians believe that people who leave their religion will burn in hell. That may not be as harsh as killing someone like they do in Islam, but it is still a problem and makes Christianity look like a cult.

[@Jedi_Are_Scum]

@@temporarymomentary I agree. But it is a free country. Also, the creator is dead. You have the right to beliefs. Just don't chop off heads. lol. It is legal to believe whatever you want. Just don't hurt people.

[@ethanfrye31]

Cults use force, coercion, blackmail, etc. Religions allow you an exit ramp at any time.

[@Mister008Gaming]

“The difference between a religion and a cult is what happens when you try and leave.” -Mike Rinder

[@ActionJackson669]

And he was in a real cult for real. Scientology is a cult and needs it's tax free status revoked 💯

[@brucetucker4847]

So, for instance, a religion that mandates the death penalty for apostates is actually a cult?

[@krtlkid]

using fear to control people is how most religion operates.Thats why some love their Gods out of fear of being damned.Sometimes I question my beliefs especially when someone goes against

[@antoine.-]

A religion is a cult who succeded

[@releaseshrek5945]

Jehovah’s Witness is a massive cult

[@madvillain7]

When Bret said he didn't know if Scientology was a cult, I almost bailed on the entire clip🤡

[@thelittlemoonling]

Same haha

[@brianmulholland2467]

One of my problems with the JRE Clips is that half the time he has real competent people on, half the time he has wingnuts, and I never know which I'm getting until 7-8 minutes into the video.

[@Justise77]

Brian Mulholland that is the addicting part of his podcast, is like gambling

[@JOE-ROGAN-CLIPS.]

That’s the best part bruv

[@maxhowlett9661]

Oh my god, you have to actually watch and establish your own opinion rather than being told what to think by some arbitrary title and some even more arbitrary and dehumanising political labels. woah. What a shame!

[@Exploshi]

javier del valle eddy bravo lmfao

[@Blanksmithy123]

Lol an interesting and realistic topic mixed in with a healthy dose of bs makes for good conversation

[@musubi-vidz]

Man, I wasn't ready for Moses to be on DMT, but Joe got there way quick

[@davidduanes9574]

I love how Joe is well informed about everything that produces DMT 😂

[@gayfrogs4206]

I swear Joe rogan knows everything about Dmt and chimps

[@h3ck774]

I mean yea he will say a lot of things that dont make sense about drugs a lot tho like for example acacia bark doesnt have near enough DMT you would have to do an extraction with lye and shit

[@jerrypapadatos1210]

@@h3ck774 I love Joe but I thought that take was nuts

[@h3ck774]

@@jerrypapadatos1210 yea its a spread rumor now Joe knows the basics about drugs but theres so much hes so misinformed about even with weed especially with mdma and novel psychs

[@scatdawg1]

Go watch DMT the spirt molecule. He was heavily involved in the film of the book.

[@oldbk4281]

as many others have noted, it is hard not to appreciate Rogan’s thoughtfulness and patience.

[@mjramirez6008]

Weinstein was faaaaaar more patient than Joe

[@teejt3737]

Joe's the type of guy who will interrupt a guest who's trying to answer a question he asked to talk extensively about DMT.

[@justincarley]

Exactly. It’s pretty much how vegans socialize. Did he even care what his opinion was or did he want to just pivot to talking about DMT?

[@teejt3737]

@@justincarley I'm afraid that when Joe hears something that goes against his mindset, he turns the topic to DMT as a defense mechanism.

[@hazypsyche6452]

Stfu they had a nice convo you penis

[@teejt3737]

@@hazypsyche6452 Dude, relax. It's just DMT.

[@suckadick7376]

@@teejt3737 a wild joe

[@TheBaffoonShow]

Joe Rogan: I'm not that big into conspiracies. Also Joe rogan: Moses was on DMT

[@burtonl7239]

So he was small into conspiracies.

[@popalien9152]

Not really a conspiracy theory as much as it is conjecture

[@BrushEm]

Not a conspiracy just a theory

[@dawn-blade]

@@BrushEm A game theory

[@YuThinkUrCool]

Firstly, a conspiracy is a crime. A real crime you can be charged with. To call something a conspiracy is to call it real. The crime of conspiracy is when 2 or more people secretly plan/plot an illegal/harmful act. Moses was one person, therefore could not have been a conspiracy so it's just a theory/speculation/conjecture.

[@avakate7747]

The way Joe can retain information is fascinating.

[@eddiepaul96]

Ava Kate people tend to retain information they have a passion for

[@avakate7747]

Eddie very true, he’s just passionate about Everything! lol

[@prezzle208]

It's even more impressive when you think about all the concussions he has probably had from mma.

[@kapitanstark1922]

@@prezzle208 all the concussions give him an advantage

[@garrettcarlson7018]

This is why I like him. He doesn't admit it but he's a smart guy. If he a single passion for one thing and stuck to that only he couldve easily been a great researcher. I see him like. He knows a little about a bunch of things and kind of find ways to intertwine them.

[@leo--4341]

christianity fits the cult definition perfectly. strange beliefs like torturing a holyman to death to forgive the sins of humanity. threatening non believers with infinite torture etc

[@felixkuhlin3126]

Joe "Moses was on DMT" Rogan

[@martinaee]

I mean, that makes way more sense to me than any other explanation lol.

[@jordans123ful]

He will say anything these days.

[@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist]

+Felix Kuhlin He was, either that or he didn't exist. Take your pick.

[@Gyork_]

Not really, he's basically creating a myth over another myth, the bush just told moses to free Slaves on Egypt, not the 10 commandments...

[@Freeonyx]

But why is that less believable than what religion says happened? Lmao

[@Modern.Elegance]

“Chathlocism is not a cult” Joe: That’s crazy man have you ever tried DMT?

[@aaroncook8120]

Haha 😂

[@ShaunHensley]

I thought you were making a joke... nope, that happened

[@finalapostate7319]

itl be dead in 100 years laugh that up

[@YoWhoDat]

@Boricua 787 its Catholicism. If you believe in the teachings then you are a Catholic. You took an L with your comment but who cares, we learn something new everyday.

[@YoWhoDat]

You dont ask someone if they're a "Christianity". You ask if they're a Christian. Same with Catholicism. You ask if they're Catholic.

[@aguspuig6615]

Literally anyone: *exists* Joe: *he probably was on dmt*

[@archesworn377]

Watching this- because I'm tripping. And I can confirm that I'm experiencing something my conscience calls God and that moses may have as well as an explanation of him truthfully thinking the 10 commandments were from God.

[@aguspuig6615]

@@archesworn377 so moses whas high af

[@archesworn377]

@@aguspuig6615 That or lying about the source of his rules to make them more authoritative. Could have been either, but there were traditions with psychedelics and them showing you God back then. Either way, from the success of the religion, I'd say those rules created a fair bit of social stability, so the lying option could be viewed as a white lie.

[@aguspuig6615]

@@archesworn377 okay that proves it he was high af

[@archesworn377]

@@aguspuig6615 It proves a strong possibility. Can't know for sure.

[@gerharddiedericks2120]

Really interesting chat :) Remember that Moses, if he is in fact a historic figure - would have spent several years as "the Pharoah's son". Geting educated by the best of the best Egyption priests ( and a variety of artists / artisans etc). Not too far fetched to believe that he knew which bushes / barks / roots / cacti to chew for "inspiration".

[@josephpretorius8607]

My girlfriend who is very religious always tries to talk to me about religion. And I as an agnostic, believe that religion in an individualistic sense is extremely powerful and in most cases positive, but in a collective sense it is very dangerous. When a person is able to grieve with the thought that their loved one will ascend to heaven and their soul continues to live on is an extremely powerful and positive belief, but when her congregation becomes a popularity contest and every little thing anyone in the congregation does gets talked about (mostly in a negative sense) and possibly get ostracized by your so called family because of how tight knit they are. Even though they're not suppose to be judgemental they can be the most judgemental and cruel people I know. I know this isn't always the case but it is what I have viewed.

[@Hightiedisland]

Yeah a lot of religious people say “though shall not judge” but judge everyone

[@josephpretorius8607]

@@Hightiedisland all the time. Pretty hypocritical people. I mean I judge people, I try not to but at least I'm not vowing an oath and then breaking that oath like it's my job

[@beastclips4642]

You're all wrong!!! I've experienced enlightenment multiple times in my life. Agnostic is also a cult so do not be misguided in the logic that because the belief set in the worship on sience is void of a magic god or alien lifeform. It functions exactly as the so called cult does, you must except the belief set or Darwin and other theoretical insights including the big bang theory. So always remember and remain open minded to the concept that DMT slowly trying to guide us along. The methods do change and all cognitive mind's are not wired the same, some people need a structure based way of life, other's thrive on structuring the lives of others. As long as the ladder man in the last sentence is providing a DMT based interpretation that benefits the person adhering to the structure it's ok. It's true that the ladder can be occupied by an unwholesome person who exploit, manipulate and so on. It's difficult to convince people to believe they are involved in something proven to be a lie when every night you lay down, you have the ability to be subjected to DMT brain activity wether it be mild in nature or non eventful hense easily disregarded or extremely potent either pleasant or in the form of an intense nightmare. When you're subjected to that brain function from birth it's difficult to know what waking interpretation of this existence really is. We are all just hallucinating together during the day trying to make sense of biological life and resource management, yet at night we all drift into a singular realm of DMT and experience vividly mind bending perceptions that no other human had other then you. We should be vary carful with common sense and alter all belief set's over time to adopt what sience has shown us. Yet like I say my fellow human friends, sience is a cult, wether good or bad we all need to agree no belief set is void of insanity. It's a core function of are brain.

[@josephpretorius8607]

@@beastclips4642 bro I can assure you I'm not associated with a cult. I came to terms of my agnostic beliefs on my own. I get what your saying, and im not saying you're wrong. I'm also saying no one who believes in God is wrong. I truly do not know what lies beyond this world and that's fine. I'm not really talking about anything you brought up. All I'm saying is I respect religion when it allows people to grieve when a loved one dies with the thought they aren't fully gone since they go to an afterlife, or when times get hard and they ask God for guidance and believe guidance will come. But when religion is in a collective sense I have problems with it. That's all I'm really saying. I'm not putting down any one religion, I'm not saying me being agnostic is right, I don't know what is right, and nobody else does either, all we have is beliefs, and I believe if I don't know for sure then I can't act as if a God exists. That's it.

[@josephpretorius8607]

Exactly. Judging people will always be apart of our nature but I feel as if it's worse in the church

[@jesseleighgordon33]

when joe asked brett if scientology is a cult, brett's face said 'are you trying to get me sued'

[@psychicerinsears]

He said sitting on a gold throne dressed like a wizard lmaooo

[@PrinceIsot]

My goodness you better be sitting on a gold throne you queen 😙

[@randybobandy5538]

You're hot asf.

[@Stefantius]

@@randybobandy5538 Shes insanely average, calm down

[@randybobandy5538]

@@Stefantius people have different tastes. Calm down.

[@meyakabrown795]

@@Stefantius Ya she is tho. These people. 🙄

[@gitarreboy05]

The only problem i have with any organized way of thinking is because it so easily slips into the realm of "I'm right, you're wrong and thats that." Society as whole would better if we were more willing to learn from those with opposing views

[@MattH-wg7ou]

I love how he's respectfully like "Im gonna challenge you on that".

[@happyman35]

@CALEB EPPLEY Yes, I was getting annoyed at that. Wished he would just shut up an let hom finnish a sentence. I would have been getting frustrated if I was him but to his credit he just went with the flow

[@teeteereag1154]

I love how Joe had patience to be with a nut

[@verne51]

@CHARLIEBOY SALDIVAR XIII Patients are what hospitals have. This guy displayed patience

[@mitchellcumsteen9220]

Is there DMT in elk meat? Jamie, pull up DMT & elk meat.

[@rubo8925]

😂😂

[@giovannir1422]

Amazing

[@h.franzen4186]

First result is Joe Rogan & His Dog Eating Elk Meat on DMT

[@jellyacc]

lmao

[@tachanka1283]

You made me waste a dab

[@jagump9728]

>Bret Weinstein - Asks genuine question about moses >Joe - Well you know the burning bush is DMT?

[@LittleRainGames]

You cant ask genuine question when religious text was meant to be taken metaphorically. Not an avid joe rogan watcher, but its cool to see he has similar views than me.

[@bjudah]

Ja Gump joe doesn’t even know, he just heard what someone else said...

[@briancox9357]

Just because an idea is old or popular doesn't mean it's right.

[@Mikey_mau5]

Joe-“Is Scientology a cult?” “Too early to tell” Joe- *laughs* I agree 😂

[@ActionJackson669]

watch leah remini documentary bro its crazy and all from former members. Not just stories, they have EVIDENCE fr

[@o.g.pyrexxpreacha2303]

Well technically the person who made it up has died...so according to his joke its crossed over to religion..

[@phnix6242]

Lol

[@TheVatonaught]

and why did Reagan legalize Scientology...I can't start my own religion and neither can you.

[@TheVatonaught]

yeah thats a good post.

[@ZitiPatrol]

I'm so happy Joe exists so we can talk about these things civilly.

[@loginyoass3771]

You can leave a religion pretty easy. Not a cult though

[@dbxniker7484]

@@loginyoass3771 not all cults are bad like that

[@MysteriouslyMilitant]

Any cult that you could leave, can be left quite easily as well. It's in the eye of the beholder at that point, or on to the sole purpose, of what the individual really needs to do.

[@blindi6326]

I don't think calling other peoples worldviews bullshit and dumb is very civil but okay

[@KZ_MMA-KZ]

@@blindi6326 Telling someone that they're going to burn in hell for their sins, when they don't believe in hell, isn't civil either

[@happyolucky5354]

"Is Scientology a cult" "I think its too early to tell" Good save

[@audreymota8423]

Happy O'Lucky it is a cult wtf xD

[@LeoMunayer]

Audrey Mota oh for sure, but the way he structured his argument, this was the correct response even though he does clarify that he finds Scientology troublesome

[@audreymota8423]

lol it doesn’t matter its a cult end of discussion

[@LeoMunayer]

Audrey Mota wow you’re really great at arguing your point.

[@deffonotdio6751]

It's definitely a cult, 100% and it's also dangerous

[@juliagoodfellow7539]

Ahhh Joe, born and raised Mormon, and I'm right there with you about all religions being cults. I looked up cult and it's a group of people with similar belief or behavior. Like the " Red Hat Ladies or the girl scouts". Mostly harmless, as Douglas Addams liked to say. I would like the reference for -Mormons get a planet- 70 years around the Mormon church and I've never heard that one anywhere except GoogleGossip. Along with a lot of equally funny ideas that other lifelong Mormons never heard of either. I love your podcast. Live long and keep the conversations growing.

[@joshua.snyder]

Yep, grew up active LdS...we're a cult.

[@jimbob9086]

@@joshua.snyder I grew up lds as well. Yes it’s a cult, but I think it wears that label to an unfair degree compared to all the other crazy Christian sects.

[@Horsethief666]

I think the planet is more assumed because you can become like God. I'm sure a general authority or apostle mentioned it some time in history but that doesn't make it doctrine necessarily, although most members would see it that way. But it is annoying how he always says that. Mormons probably technically believe it but he makes it sound like they're preaching it every Sunday or something.

[@Kate82261]

@@Horsethief666do you know that this person wasn’t preached that on a near constant basis? Genuine question. Not sure how sects of LDS work. (Also why did we have LDS commercials constantly as kids? I was born in the 1980s) anyone? Bueler?

[@swampghost72]

Ok tell me where is the line drawn between a cult and an organization..where please tell me..I respect joes mind hes highly intelligent but hes off on this one...David coresh of the branch davidians in Waco was a cult , marshal aplewhite of heavens gate that was a cult .. Catholicism , and the girl scouts are not cults..faith and religion is a touchy subject for joe so I expect his statements on this .

[@sfcmp7005]

I was able to experience discussions like this with a coworker a long time ago. He was from Canada. We shared an office space and periodically we would have political discussions. We would always present the devil's advocate to each other on different stories. We were always able to present our points of view in a mature way, and at the end of the discussion we would agree to disagree in a friendly manner, and that was always the end of that particular topic. We never once got in a heated argument, and always recognized each others point of view in a mature way.

[@aubreyshelton3217]

That's the way life should be!!! Good 👍 for you guys for being intelligent and patient and tolerable people.

[@esk8er900]

I had to do that with a very close friend in college who I met on day 1 & became fast friends… a year & a half goes by when I learn his political beliefs which I genuinely believed was a joke, esp given his sense of humor, but no he was serious. At first I was flustered acting on impulse, and it didn’t go well. This bothered me, I actually felt guilty & I broached the topic later on at a different angle, mature, respectful, open minded, researched, and conversing to let a person finish listening to what they really said, to drastically different result. That’s when I learned how to agree to disagree because I had a personally vested interest.

[@errbored1276]

U were both thoguhtfull subs fraise astrolguy .....

[@sfcmp7005]

@@esk8er900 That's great. What I learned was that we both came from different backgrounds, and upbringing so we could definitely have different views. It was very interesting for sure.

[@RowBlanka]

wheres that coworker now?

[@mad-official]

Imagine if George Carlin was still alive & went on JRE.

[@unre_sqrwisdom]

Classic

[@unre_sqrwisdom]

And halfway through Eddie Bravo & Alex Jones show up.

[@DaveSwart]

Oh my god - that thought just broke my brain.

[@chaos4316]

Or Chris Hitchens

[@undisputed1one]

I have a feeling he wouldn't let Joe talk and he'd just complain about modern life.

[@squashedmike]

'The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own' - Frank Zappa

[@squashedmike]

Bullshit.

[@intermediate212]

@Matthew Pace lol shut up Mathew

[@intermediate212]

@Matthew Pace "I love telling the truth" 😂😂

[@brianpitts9778]

​@Matthew Pace Thanks, we all needed a good laugh.

[@bennyboyblack689]

@Mark Matthew Pace Love hearing a religious person utter the words "I love pissing people off".

[@KingGeorgieIII]

I’ve learned more from Joe Rogans podcast then I did in 18 years of being in the public school system and one semester of community college God bless you Joe Keep preaching the truth

[@misterfini6662]

"This is rough territory" Joe: "For you"

[@brandonguthrie8122]

Vincent Serafini he is highly open minded and thoughtful about the topic where as joe is not. Joes mind is made up so it’s black and white for him. The other man is looking to fully understand these systems and sees many colors.

[@UberTheRandom]

@@brandonguthrie8122 Thats because Weinstein is a wishy washy little bitch that is always afraid of offending anyone. He's been that way since Evergreen. He went with that whole mentality there until it finally impacted him directly and he was threatened. Then he decided he didn't want to go along anymore. The guy is 100% a weasel.

[@GuruJudge21]

It's not that Weinstein is wishy washy, he's an academic, Joe is a comedian. Joe can say whatever he wants with hardly any backlash, in this case, since he was raised Catholic, he can get away with it entirely. Weinstein can't.

[@kurianjerry4129]

"You're a big guy"

[@bigmike956]

Brandon Guthrie Joe is still learning. Hopefully he grows from this instead of putting it in the box 📦.

[@mackysassr]

"The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own." - Frank Zappa

[@Patrick96322]

Thank you for that !

[@Mr30friends]

If that definition is accurate, then Scientology would be considered a religion and not a cult. Cause they are a real estate tycoon.

[@wilbl7778]

@@Mr30friends Right.. BTW.. Scientology Is considered a religion..

[@Fr4cturedMind]

@dirit dramgles tell that to history

[@daveblodgett2438]

"I'm the best of the rest, have you guessed me yet?"

[@mickayy1]

Me: “My house burned down, I lost everything” Joe: “Your house was DMT being smoked by Moses”

[@memory199726]

Hahahahahaha i am too high for this man haha

[@masterchief5437]

Funny, but so stupid and he calls Catholics all wrong

[@enzolong9085]

@@memory199726 same bro haha

[@danielmccomb7402]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@benshapiro3237]

@@rocksparadox ?... Are you high?

[@mattk3654]

See, this is why I like Joe. He can disagree with me and give good evidence on why he could be right and do it without insulting me. And, at the same time, if I were to drop evidence on him to help prove my side of the debate, he takes it in without assuming I'm insulting him. And considers my debating points and applies them going forward. It's that last part that really sets him apart. He actually considers the debating points of the people that disagree with him and sometimes forms a new opinion based on things he's learned. And this causes me to respect his opinion whether I agree or not. For that, I applaud you, Mr Joe Rogan. Keep doing what you do

[@commanderbastard1993]

People talk about "you can leave a religion but not a cult" have not lived with a really religious family and area.

[@LiterallyADude]

Or you those people just don’t realize they’re in a cult 🤔

[@DailyCorvid]

@@LiterallyADude likewise you don't realise you're talking about a thing you have no knowledge on. Unless of course you've been in a cult yourself or are currently culting at the moment? Lol. See I can tell you have no real faith by the way you conduct yourself here. You're like 85% holding back but for no particular reason more than self doubt. OR - begins the sentence with doubt YOU THOSE PEOPLE - accusatory discrimination, though I doubt you meant it that way JUST DON'T REALIZE - Americanzzz love those zees :D And also assuming people are stupid THEY'RE IN A CULT - Bruv you can't not realise.... Lol that's like saying I didn't realise I scored for England in a World Cup Final. It's a big fucking deal to them, not something you'd be unaware of. I feel like i've seen tonnes of your comments in the past and thought "here's a potentially cool witty bloke, a rarity on YT" but then I also see "This bloke wishes for depth but talks of his subjects with utter shale; what depth? Lool. But it's in there I can tell. Just gotta let it free without upsetting people. It's a skill, fuck man read a Bible in your house even when you don't believe in shit that is in there, use it like a psychology manual it will teach you how to think with intelligence rather than with emotional doubt like you've been doing. Note _ I am not proselytising here, I said read it as if it's a self help coaching book or something and replace every instance of the word Yah or God with ... I dunno something else then it ain't religion it is just a book that can literally MAKE YOU SMARTER lol if you actuall read it. Then you know the difference between faith and a cult. Political parties are cults for instance so if you've ever "enjoyed the election trail" then voted, guess what you've been a cultist and YOU didn't even realise it. Only you did that's why you don't pray to Lord Jeremy or whoever the current party leader is. But if you have faith in God then He is 100% always the same and always there, removing all doubt from your mind so that you can live peacefully, but also be truly free. I am only going into this much detail because I feel like this is the end of a conversation we had some time ago on a different video. Maybe it was Sir Sic or another guy like that......

[@la-zh4231]

I grew up in a really religious catholic family and no one cared when we stopped going to church when we all grew up. Some of us joined different religions, churches etc. However, I do know of a cult and they are the most diabolical sinister group I’ve encountered. I was told by a so called friend “they’re so warm and friendly!” Come to find out, they beat 6 month olds with sticks on their bare bottoms if they don’t stay still during diaper changes. That’s just an example. The whole town is being taken over by them including building a University for them. I’m getting the heck out of dodge!

[@DailyCorvid]

@@la-zh4231 Those people just really suck at being a member of whatever their religion thing is then. People tend to be arseholes you know, and they like to aside any blame away from their own responsible selves... That's what your example looks like to me. These people are not Christians by the way they behave and treat others. That's not their religion they are just personally a bunch of arseholes! Sure I wasn't there and your description is rather brief. Nevertheless it sounds like they are a bunch of spaghetti monster worshippers rather than sincere faithful members of their church. I have a good example but I won't bore you with it, my writing isn't nearly so accessible as yours is :) Maybe another time lol. The basics are I was born and bred Atheist and was conferencing. Then actually found God. Well that's not what I was expecting lol. But that's how it is. But my behaviour didn't change AT ALL when I joined my Church infact I only really go so I can encourage this good positive behaviour out of others (who are there to improve themselves). Nobody is taught to be a violent twat or treat people poorly. Quite the reverse. FYI though I share the exact same criticisms of the Church as you do. Really I agree with practically ALL of it. The difference being I am actually willing to go in there, into the lions den and actually attempt to negotiate my point of view fairly and see if I get a result through being reasonable, patient and witty with it. Seems to work :) But I totally accept Atheist, shit that is the standard starting position. If you are not an Atheist if you don't know how to critique the religion properly from being an Atheist you'll have ZERO understanding of the philosophy and the ethics behind what we do in Church and out of it too! Sorry it was very long! Appreciate your example though, sorry you had to go through all that and experience shitty people banging Bibles against your head! Hopefully they will not repeat this lol somewhat pointless crusade to get you to attend one time! Lol.

[@sofloflow]

I grew up jehovah witness & when you leave, noone from the religion is allowed to talk to you anymore. Youre also only supposed to make friends within the "religion" while you're a member, so you're left abandoned & alone. I definitely consider it a cult.

[@jamesdemile4181]

His guest: *finishes going off on yet another brilliant defense for his argument* Joe: “Right. So let’s say you’re on a spaceship”

[@M1N0rZ1rC0N]

And in the ship they have a ton of DMT

[@sobieski9975]

Yeah you can literally see him lose interest in any coherent rebuttal, and rhen he just segways to another thought. Good observation

[@metalscottsman]

There was no brilliant defense of his argument. "It's old" doesn't address the question of whether it is a cult. Catholicism does meet the definition. And he makes multiple assertions backed by logical fallacies. Lastly Joe is still running a podcast and he will break tension or try to transition to another topic by saying silly shit.

[@metalscottsman]

@Eliyah Walker that isn't the definition. You have the internet. You dont have to just say shit, you can look it up.

[@ianbuilds7712]

@@metalscottsman lol... The internet is a bunch of ppl just saying shit.. if you look hard enough you can always find a definition that fits your narrative...

[@johnbenson9806]

Best believe Joe is growing acacia bushes in his garden.

[@ahmadtarek7763]

Imagine he does that and suddenly decides to go religious .

[@spooky-nz9vj]

DMT is stored in the balls

[@DaveBrown-d7s]

Never watched this before, just got a lot more respect for Joe. Was never part of his cult before 😅

[@inapickle4971]

To me a cult is defined by what happens if you want to leave. If you are shunned by everyone in the cult, if you are emotionally blackmailed to return to the cult even if you don’t believe it, it’s a cult to me.

[@TheFracturedfuture]

@@stargayzer5446 haha good one.

[@dylan351321]

most religions are a cult then. they advocate this exact behavior of ostracizing outsiders

[@SWiTFSHoW]

Tell that to a Islamic woman who wants to leave (dead penalty) Btw I’m not atheist

[@jeffw9465]

@Stargayzer you are actually correct. Religious history in west Europe is pretty much the same. If someone was to leave or have another opinion on the narritive he'd be shunned. Plenty of stories in our part of the world

[@donilbanluta1050]

Cult + time = religion

[@InterstellarKev]

Literally no one: Joe: Now let me tell you about this little thing called DMT

[@1984Brandon]

What degrees has he earned? What professional research, blind studies, neutral sided essay was submitted to earn a doctorate? Did Joe Rogan have a thesis that was published? If the established medical journals are wrong what did he write that disproves them?

[@HI-ej2xz]

@@1984Brandon r/iamverysmart

[@1984Brandon]

@@HI-ej2xz Oh Reddit?! ...My apologies they'd never have trolls spreading false information in there.

[@basedhumanofficial]

doesn't that tell you how profound an experience it must be?

[@basedhumanofficial]

@@1984Brandon why does he need a degree to tell people how DMT changed his life? he's never claimed he was any kind of professional. i'm not sure why you need to be a doctor or a published author to tell people your life experiences, or why you can't learn something valuable from them as a watcher/listener.

[@tianels2090]

Joe 'they called it the burning bush because he smoked it' Rogan

[@danielmccomb7402]

😂😂😂😂

[@rosecapitalgroupinc]

I like that one.....lol

[@kirkford726]

It's very possible I'd say

[@zachbelcher3486]

And

[@backyardbandit8193]

When I had DMT, i definitely wasn't in a familiar place or a place I'd been in any dreams prior to the experience and haven't seen anything close since having DMT. It was probably the most astonishing or surprising thing I've ever experienced. I didn't know our brains had the capacity to create such experiences. I'm still debatable whether i created the illusions and conversations with these entities or whether some other force implanted them in my brain. There was definitely some type of element of leaving my physical body vulnerable, as i broke on to the other side, which would seem the only way of infiltrating my thought process. I've done skydiving, Bungy jumping, scuba diving etc and this experience is right up there with the best of them. We fear what we don't know or understand...i was scared shitless, as i was in a place i didn't know or understand, despite preparing myself to be entering another realm and potentially visiting little people and having conversations with them, nothing can prepare you for this experience, because when it happens...i was like "no f@#ing way, i simply can't believe it" I don't recommend asking what's this week's tatts lotto are going to be, didn't end well with me😢

[@Kate82261]

Can you clarify what you mean in the last sentence? What didn’t end well? I love reading about ppls experience with DMT. Fascinating that we naturally produce this chemical, dubbed the “God molecule”-I mean? That’s no accident. I know the stories are so vulnerable, terrifying, but expansive: “arrive without traveling” ❤

[@backyardbandit8193]

@@Kate82261 I felt like they we're saying "here we are showing you the wonders of the universe, and your asking for lottery numbers?" But I persisted, and then I received a big scare from something that hissed like a cat with huge fangs, as fast as it scared me, it disappeared, like a warning, and a quick lesson in the laws of random probability.

[@backyardbandit8193]

@@Kate82261 I was told prior to trying it that I might see little elves, so my brains like "okay cool, noted" So whilst in this realm with what reminded me of the little Oompa Loompa's from Charlie and the chocolate factory, all wearing little white gloves and acting childish, I'm wondering where are these coming from? Me? Or something else?

[@backyardbandit8193]

@@Kate82261 The weirdest thing I felt was their jealousy, they were extremely jealous, and I think they were jealous of my curiosity, the fact that I didn't understand the whole universe. I felt they couldn't feel "curious" like us. Almost as if they knew everything and nothing was surprising or new.

[@backyardbandit8193]

@@Kate82261 When the "trip/experience" was coming to an end, they waved hysterically saying "come back soon, don't forget about us, make sure you come and visit us again" all in a childish manner. So I thought it was weird that they knew it was coming to an end my trip somewhere.

[@blindwithbarbells4955]

Joe "do you have a few minutes to hear about DMT" Rogan

[@jeffchandler283]

If you can't question anything ....And they make it hard for you to leave ... it's a cult

[@jeffchandler283]

@General Nick of the Holy Zest Empire with the correct inner light or guidance some of them answer those questions correctly... Some are misguided and do not unfortunately...

[@bradleyholdom9677]

Sounds just like 'religion' too me.

[@User-Seven-Teen]

How long has the church been like this? A hella long time

[@ragealized]

"This is rough territory" "For you ;)" Joe "Bane" Rogan

[@nituna27]

that was the best part. lol

[@TELEPATHICG0AT]

Underrated comment😂

[@cosmonautilus1181]

Lole

[@licentiousdreams]

I was born in the DMT bush...

[@MystikMonK-d1k]

@existential dread Ooh you think dmt is your Ally

[@DADA-ey2ir]

How can you not like Joe Rogan man😂

[@craigw4967]

I would say the way they treat you when you leave is a big indicator of a cult.

[@sheepdog150]

So with this theory, since you burn forever in hell when you leave the Catholic church, you are saying the Catholic church is a cult then?

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

Muslims are supposed to disown or even kill those who leave Islam. Neato burrito.

[@MrJeo29]

Have you ever lived in a close christian community? You will lose a lot/all contact to those people if you leave the respective church. Not to mention potentially getting shamed It might not be as straight forward, or physically violent, but i would still consider that a good amount of pressure

[@no.4333]

@99legion Oh, that's absolute bullshit. When has a satanic church been exposed for pedophile rings like the catholics have? Satanists are just atheists trolling christians. Catholicism is far more evil.

[@connnnnnnor2096]

Craig Wallace yes i agree. Im about to turn 16 and ever since i was a kid i always hated going to my catholic church. Idk if it just bored me to death or what but i never ever enjoyed it. In middle school i was going to catechism after school and i would always sleep instead of paying attention. The dumb braud in charge of the catechism program came up to me and tried to talk to me but i just told her that i didnt care about it, so she just walked away and now she looks at me dirty whenever my mom makes me go to church.

[@alyssanautica7583]

“It’s just a cult w a billion people” 🤣😭

[@tania3609ify]

MY FAVORITE PART

[@canadaeast8358]

That was awesome

[@bodianlanding7777]

“...with the guy who started it being dead.” Joe has a point though.

[@gaylewatkins6781]

Joe ...Isn't wanting everyone to do DMT the start of a cult/religion?. DMT isn't for everyone..Joe's church of DMT. I was raised in the Catholic Church people changed because they were terrified they were going to go burn in hell.

[@alyssanautica7583]

@@gaylewatkins6781 I think he’s specifically said it’s not for everyone and there’s some people that should stay away from drugs completely but some people that could benefit. He’s definitely made jokes. But.. that’s his job.

[@patfam2495]

"people worshipping a guy dressed like a wizard sitting on a golden throne....*that's a cult*!" god I freakin love Joe Rogan

[@T4nku0ut]

You mean like a judge?

[@ShawnHodgins]

I see what you did right thar :)

[@kolipokithebold4765]

@@T4nku0ut honestly judges get too much "required respect" always thought it was a little forced and weird. Not a big issue for me but its odd

[@T4nku0ut]

@@kolipokithebold4765 Look up "religion statism" on google image and the second picture will leave you looking at the world a bit different. The entire "system" is run like a cult and religion.

[@yaboimclovin1499]

Stevland Cornelissen no body is being healed by any sort of faith or religion. Youre being played like a fiddle. Get a grip my dude.

[@roquefortfiles]

Ok dude. You might pull this position on Joe Rogan but a friend of mine who was raised Catholic finally left the church. I asked her why. Her words exactly, "Its a Cult" Are you going to maintain the same position with her? Someone who is from that religion and grew up in it. Not some outsider or disbeliever like Joe Rogan. Someone who was knee deep in Catholicism. "Its a bizarre cult".

[@grimmace1002]

It becomes a cult when you cannot question the dogma. When they restrict your communication and interaction with others outside of the belief. When it leads to isolation and punishment of independent thought.

[@budgiecat9039]

this. Though Sanda Huckabee Sanders is a cult cow

[@grimmace1002]

@@budgiecat9039 You're just jealous of Sarah's seductive big cow eyes. haha

[@sallycanwait5195]

You just defined it on point. These two hamsters are caught in their wheel and going on adventures.

[@OLLIE-ILL]

Great point. However, nearly every organized religion does not allow questioning of the dogma and the difference between a cult and religion becomes indinstinguishable. Only when the power structure is threatened do religions adapt to maintain power. Mormons changed their rules, Judaism re-defined the definition of a Jew, and various Christian sects soften literal bible interpretations.

[@russellmcgurn4217]

Christianity.

[@XBCsmurfCLAN]

Q: What's the Difference Between a Cult and a Religion? A : Tax exemption.

[@XBCsmurfCLAN]

The amount of people who have sacrificed individuality.

[@DustinJJ98]

*likes.. ASSEMBLE*

[@captdread2013]

@dumble dor three letters.

[@energyfitness5116]

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader. -Creed Bratton

[@kelco4260]

Golden answer of the day

[@beachstreet101]

What’s making this Joe Rogan so amazing is that he can have all of these guests with extremely opposing views and ideologies, and have a calm intelligent conversation with them discussing both sides. There’s no triggered screaming and name calling that society does now if you don’t agree with them or have a different belief. And you learn to be balanced and hear both sides without flying off the handle like a mental patient, which is the way humanity behaves now.

[@fastlife711]

Good point.

[@11ellswray]

I like the gen 5 viper avatar

[@robertparaday9122]

Just the liberal bitches

[@Sammasambuddha]

DMT baby...you're never upset after you know the secret to existence.

[@anthonycope8637]

Joe rogan is open minded and even when he has a guest that isnt he doesnt attack them so much as pokeing holes and allowing them to patch things up even if it isn't great patch work

[@mojojeinxs9960]

Grew up as a suffering Catholic. Did nine long years in Catholic school boot camp.

[@boomhauer1894]

Joe: "What's the difference between a cult and a religion?" Bret: "I think we have different definitions of what a cult is." Joe: "Well I think all religions are cults." okay.

[@gootyobt2032]

Based on the actual definition of what a cult is and not you trying to differ the word cult from the word religion, all religions are cults.

[@18wheeler57]

A better distinction is a good cult vs a bad cult.

[@FreakyFirestorm]

The only difference in their definitions is that Bret is ok with the shady shit that goes on behind the curtains bec he's been made to believe it's right. Joe on the other hand isn't ok with it bec he knows the difference between whats right and whats wrong. Bret has been made to believe that as long as you control people under the name "Jesus" then nothing you do is wrong Bec we all know not a single "Christian" would EVERRR do something that's wrong.

[@zackaryshapley3571]

@@FreakyFirestorm He told Joe that there is going to be corruption in all things. I feel like the differentiation he was making was that a religion was made with the intent of making people exist together more homogeneously while a cult is created by someone who is self-serving and is willing to deceive others for their own benefit. Just because people have abused the power given to them by religion throughout history doesn't mean that it was not created, as Bret said, "in earnest", to help people. All that means is that no matter what time period you observe there will always be those who are corrupt. Just because some practitioners of something abuse it , does not mean that said thing was made for that purpose. Or maybe it was.

[@emprodabob]

If you can't question religion, in my opinion, it's a cult

[@m.w.6526]

Islam is the only one that pops up in my mind. You criticize that, get ready for a shit storm. Arguably Judaism too, but for a different reason.

[@GlennDavey]

No religion wants to be questioned. All religions claim to be the higher authority. What makes a cult is how much the religion asks of its followers, and how hard it is for those followers to leave. Not all religions are the same in this way. Some are cults.

[@butthead3396]

Max Werner try talking religion with a Christian

[@m.w.6526]

Most Christians are secular. And most are generally secular, unlike most muslims.

[@gioxrivera]

I’m a Christian, you can question anything if your heart desires

[@Jmack7861]

Joe “I’m going to make every conversation about dmt “ rogan

[@dmalmostwan]

lol

[@reservoirfrogs2177]

He just really wants people to know about it

[@sidehustlecouple6784]

Ramblings of a junkie podcast

[@Coins.com.]

😂😂😂

[@pdxorbust27]

Good! DMT could be treated like a vaccine for humanity.

[@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA]

When Spaghetti people smoke DMT they see Joe Rogan 🤣.. (Are we all spaghetti peoplenow )😮😮😮😮

[@cyrisssmith8830]

I love that he calls it a wizard costume 🤣

[@savantus1]

Believing lies is dangerous, especially when some use those lies as a way to wield authority over others. No matter the good intentions people may have, and you just need to look around at how many don't have good intentions.

[@redonk1740]

It doesn't take religion to get a good person to do good things, but it takes something like a cult/religion to get good people to do bad things, and convince them that they're doing something good while doing it.

[@rampage3337]

@De Maatemmer no you are so wrong. you are thinking about it from a stupid snowflakes perspective where everyone's opinions mather. everyone can have a opinion but if it's a shit opinion then you should be bullied for it. look what happens when you just blindly support. look how fucked the world is and how people don't even think they got genders anymore. there is truth there is lies there is no who decides what. there is just cold hard facts. your economy system is a lie the whole worlds is there is no Mather of opinion just facts. religion is disproven 100x over while science get's proven time after time after time. there is no opinions when you try talking factual stuff there is just truth and lies. opinions are when you have a feeling towards something. like you like pizza or you like hamburger more than pizza and best drink is sprite. like those are opinions. it is for us to decide if religion is a massive lie or not because it is. the whole world is fucked because it thinks peoples opinions and feelings mean more than facts.

[@SirBigDaddy69]

Something being objectively true means it's true regardless of what an individual(s) thinks about it. Economic systems aren't designed to determine any truths about reality so that's a meaningless statement.

[@yusefkhan1752]

Like the “Holocaust” 😂

[@wala3o]

So then why don’t u overthrow ur government. It’s not just religion, good and bad is in every person. Religion is r the issue, humans are

[@IshtheStomach]

"this is rough territory" "For you" 😂🤣😂🤣😂😹😂🤣😂🤣

[@ActionJackson669]

Facts 💯 this is only tough for one of us 😂

[@IshtheStomach]

@@ActionJackson669 Joe, could have said that and may as well have followed with "it ain't me!"

[@native307]

They still want to justify their voodoo and zombie cults

[@chaos4316]

“No one cared who I was until I put on the mask”

[@corrysmith]

It's only rough if you're trying to come to some type of logical peaceful understanding. It's easy if you don't give a fuck about logic truth and understanding then you can just throw out labels and hateful rhetoric at anyone who disagrees with you.

[@nrm55]

The difference between a religion and a cult is the amount of real estate they own. - George Carlin?

[@drewdrew8752]

Joe “ I’m not a religious scholar but let me tell you about dmt “ Rogan

[@colbyb.4462]

Why do u hate craft beer

[@talhatheoptimist8153]

According to Joe, literally every thing in this universe has something to do with DMT, one way or the other 😅😅

[@shinygiratina2360]

Was the universes big bang experience an acid trip

[@SirtyDanchez]

Well have you ever done it?

[@puzlepeace1053]

It's funny yea, but at the same time kinda stupid to say as a joke because I'm pretty sure that's right, because DMT connects you to everything. It really is involved in everything.

[@canondocre8650]

@lolletsplay04 Humankind is to a bigger being what cancer is to us.

[@clocked0]

@@canondocre8650 How long till it attempts to eradicate the cancer? Or is that already happening in 2020 :O

[@hartley9672]

Is there a single episode where Joe doesn't mention DMT?

[@anthonydavis899]

The fight companions lol

[@OculusQuestFun]

I think there was, but I can't be sure as I was on DMT. Lol. Jk

[@MizTubeFreak]

No.

[@danielhughes396]

It had a profound effect on him.

[@OculusQuestFun]

@@danielhughes396 Right? So true. And how many others?

[@tobysewell681]

The opening bit for Joe here absolutely killed me 😂😂😂

[@DanDSays]

Wow.. this guy is something else. And how did he manage to shape his fro into a bicycle helmet?

[@knowledgeiskey1319]

😂 I was drinking when I read this... there is coffee everywhere.

[@nituna27]

lol I cant . lol

[@7MilesNorth]

💀

[@licentiousdreams]

@oxy 75 While molesting children? Jamie look that up!

[@fastlife711]

🤣🤣😂😂

[@MagicDragonesk]

Joe Rogan is trying to start a DMT cult

[@ronmexico5596]

Psykonaut I’ll join

[@EUGEN093]

DMT religion, Id say

[@michaeljohnscott7989]

Am I in? 😉

[@mikebussy3334]

I'm in.

[@M1N0rZ1rC0N]

Yeah

[@avzfitness8048]

Joe in his head whenever there is a new subject to talk about: "dont instantly talk about DMT, dont instantly talk abou-..."

[@MIGU3L2K]

“They say Moses was on DMT because of the burning bush.” *FUCK*

[@vickyhamak9766]

I 100% agree with you Joe. Same experience in Catholic Church.

[@patale1640]

a religion is lifting 3x a week... a cult is crossfit.

[@MiscellaneousAdventures]

Pat Ale lmao

[@mystatamiaj]

Lol

[@jenzim3639]

crossfit is definitely a cult

[@robertostler6733]

Pat Ale do you even mako bro?

[@916medic]

Awesome. Great great way of putting it.

[@shawnl2692]

Joe Rogan brings up DMT any chance he gets

[@NBAXXX]

If you’ve had the experience and you’ve entertained the implications it has for mankind and reality itself, you’ll understand why he does that. Unfortunately Joe always gives a poor and simplistic overview of it. He frames it in a way, that it cannot be taken seriously.

[@muaythaiordie]

NBAXXX or maybe you just love your drug of choice too much (kidding of course)

[@muaythaiordie]

it was all a meme Well Psychedelics can impact someone’s life in a very major way to where their entire perspective and morals have changed

[@redmuskratt]

So do I. =]

[@TheOliver353]

Remember that although DMT and other psychedelics can be very insightful, they should not be used recreationally. Like Bret said "One should do it deliberatley and don't do it with the TV on."

[@JustinK0]

Just wanted to point out that they got the story of the burning bush mixed up.. The 10 commandments part is when he came down from the Mountain, The burning Bush is when he was told, to go save the Jewish salves from Egypt. Regardless if you think its fiction or non fiction, should at least get the story correct when talking about it

[@BlueFury2577]

They did mention that it wasn't Moses bringing the ten commandments.

[@PeachT87]

Its fiction

[@louislutche]

@ Bible stories losing credibility?Has one story been proven to have actually happened?The explanation Joe gives makes more sense than Mel Brooks version and both are more believable than the bibles version.The fact that so many believe any of the bible fables is the most unbelievable

@@louislutche Dude, no, read correctly.

[@DroidSmartphones]

@@louislutche "Has one story been proven to have actually happened?" There are historical records of events described in the Bible during Jesus's life actually occurring as well as records of the people in the Bible actually existing. One example off the top of my head is Pontius Pilate, who plays a large role in the crucifixion story, and who we know existed and played a role in Roman government that was accurately described in the Bible.

[@emilyfurey4483]

I have narcolepsy which I didn't develop which is most common but have had it my whole life. As a narcoleptic we fall straight into REM and may be in REM sleep for (unmedicated which I was until 24) anything between 16-20 odd hours a day. I find it so interesting what you are saying about the production of DMT in REM 🤯 With this new info in mind, it could explain the hypnogogic hallucinations that occurs daily ( unmedicated ) along with other strange sleep phenomenon which accompanies the condition.

[@costbart]

Joe "i don't need a Dictionary, i define things while high" Rogan

[@budgiecat9039]

what if the people that created dictionaries were high?? :p

[@danielmccomb7402]

😂😂😂😂

[@Whadduphomie]

Budgie Cat people did at a time create words. We still create words today. Like Eminem made Stan an actual word

[@JakeRosen635]

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