Former Rugby Legend Claims Ireland are the best in the world, NOT the Springboks…

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Former Rugby Legend Claims Ireland are the best in the world, NOT the Springboks…

[@aidenoleary7406]

In fairness who cares? Do we not all enjoy the game of rugby? We are in an era of exceptional rugby. I as an Irish fan am happy to be alive for it. We will go the SA in the summer and I cant wait just to enjoy the rugby. This comments section would do better to have a bit of respect for each other on both sides. We are lucky to be witnessing this era.

[@johnjames6620]

I agree. My question is why would a person have a need to make such a comment. As a South African I wouldn't say that we are better or worse than say NZ. All I would say is that we have a 50% win rate in RWC's compared to 30% for NZ or other factual statements. The other alarming thing, from my perspective is that many of the NH team have SH imports. Any team can be "the best" if they import "the best" from other countries.

[@kerrylass2]

@@johnjames6620 He is a welshman whose side was facing Ireland in the 6 Nations and so he had an agenda in saying that.

[@johnjames6620]

@@kerrylass2 The RWC is done and dusted. SA are the World Champions. The desire to now try and diminish SA's win reflects an inferiority complex. Comments are made like the June tests will show whose the best, which suggests that Ireland is trying to "own" the RWC through ways other than winning it.

[@galwaycitytoday3144]

Oh come on! Because a former Welsh legend of the game said that” in his opinion” Ireland are the best team in the world, you start inferring attitudes on the Irish as if we said it. I think it’s you who are insecure. Maybe it’s because Ireland appear to be the only team you can’t beat. 🤔

[@PB22559]

The reality is there is nothing between SA, Ire and Nz. When they play each other they're 50/50 games.

[@Jungleant310]

100%

[@gordondarker4073]

Correct but the trouble is a lot of the Africans can't read .....this guy is Welsh not irish

[@johnjames6620]

@@gordondarker4073 We can read very well. Until a team stops importing players from other countries and wins a RWC (or at least gets to a RWC final), such comparisons are futile.

[@JakeLegear]

Ireland didn't play anywhere near their best in the WC, statistically , or phyically.Ironically, I think they wanted to get that quater finalist tag off their backs so much, that they forgot to play. Today's Ireland is much more powerful, mentally, and they are free to play a more expansive kind of rugby. Better than South Africa or New Zealand when it matters? Not sure, but this incarnation of Ireland would have beaten the AB's at the WC, and they had already beaten SA, so Davies has a point, but the WC is the test. It is a test of doing things when it really matters. And SA deserve to be world champions because they did it when it mattered. Ireland are getting better, but they will have to win the grand slam and then beat one of either SA or New Zeeland again to make people question the world order.

[@johnjames6620]

They need to win 4 RWC's to challenge SA and NOT import SH players!

[@christianmccann9400]

Boks lost last 3 games against ireland .. lets aee how the 2 test games in SA go to decide !

[@johnjames6620]

The games were away games and sometimes at RWC a team strategically elects to put in less effort in a pool game so as to prevent injury and prepare for the kock-out stage. The 2 test games in SA are also irrelevant as far as "best team" is concerned, for many reasons (like will the teams be at full strength, will the depth of the teams be tested and so on). A further matter is the issue of imports. SA could no doubt strengthen their team by bringing in imports like a lot of the NH teams do.

[@johnjames6620]

Why should we? Firstly, the games SA lost were away or pool games. But if you really want to use the tests do decide, then at least don't use imports! Where would Ireland (and Scotland) be without SH imports!

[@andreheynes4646]

Nothing will decide it until the next world cup...many teams beat SA before the last world cup but we still took the toughest route and still defended our title.

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Yes, let's see what happens. This time you have to travel to our part of the world ,)

[@evanh8749]

As a Springbok supporter I'm definitely biased... ... But what is your measurement for the best? WC wins? Tournament successes? Win records? Duration of win records? Player depth? Head to head records? In my opinion: I think Ireland are certainly the best consistent team at the moment... But have lacked enough squad depth (or trust in their squad) to sufficiently rest key players in a tournament scenario. NZ & South Africa are the best team's in terms of squad depth, while they both lack the same consistency all year round that Ireland have shown, they end up playing so many more players, managing player hours and combinations, and could each likely field two squads of world quality. All three countries are top quality at the moment, and great things are expected of all three going forwards. But only one is currently the defending world championship. And although they are going through a rebuild process, need to respect the achievements for at least the next 12 months.

[@22grena]

Who won the last game is probably the best indictor

[@subbie5498]

​@@22grenawell who won the last game against nz twice who won the last game between you guys exactly😂

[@karlosdeevs]

@@subbie5498twice against you guys? it was a one-off 4pt game, what planet are you on?

[@nkosinathimazibuko2561]

@@22grenawould you say the same thing between Ireland and New Zealand?

[@corcaigh]

Let's be honest, if any two of these three (Ireland, ABs, SA) were playing this weekend, we would have no clue who would win. You could throw France into the mix despite their current form, and I still would not bet my house on the result. Stats say Springboks are number 1 team in the world rankings and world champions. It's hard to argue with this. On the other hand, many in SA that would point to the stats now when they are on top, are the same people that ignored these same stats when Ireland were on top for years before the World Cup. I think it's fair to say that there were four evenly matched teams at the top in the World Cup. Other than the dip with France, I don't see what's really changed.

[@nkosinathimazibuko2561]

Depends where they playing. IRELAND ARE NOT BEATING US IN SOUTH AFRICA AND WE NOT BEATING IRELAND IN IRELAND

[@ariakayleighjordan9847]

France will find it's rhythm and form just because they've had a few bad days doesn't rule them out as they are another great team as well as the other 3 South Africa , New Zealand and Ireland

[@jcgeldenhuys2084]

I really think he meant that they are the best team since the WC as our SH teams are yet to play. I wouldn't read to much into it.

[@joh1602]

Who cares if any one is number 1….they still have to face the Boks

[@celticlofts]

Ireland did and they beat them.

[@subbie5498]

​@@celticloftsand lost to nz

[@jadenphilander8799]

@@celticlofts against a boks team who rested key player in that game

[@22grena]

Who did South Africa last lose against? Which team did South Africa lose against in the World Cup?

[@Jim_Cpe]

Don't worry poppet, some day Ireland will see beyond the quarter finals....

[@subbie5498]

easy response new zealand who last to nz last😂

[@Slayer-kx5fz]

Boks last lost to Ireland!! But the bigger question is, who last lost to Ireland in a world cup final?!!..... NO ONE!! They haven't even made it to the semi's!!! 😂😂🤣🤣😭😭

[@22grena]

@@Jim_Cpe The truth hurts doesn't it. How can SA be the best in the world but have lost to Ireland only months ago and in the World Cup too. To be fair though you don't talk like a Saffa. Are you English?

[@22grena]

@@subbie5498 Except we are talking about two other teams. You poor NZ's the only thing you are famous for is rugby. Without that nobody would ever notice your nation. BTW you lost the World Cup final 😄to the team Ireland beat.

[@ryanlawlor7862]

Ireland dont have silver ware?? Is the RWC the only comp in the world?

[@leeroyarendse5302]

The biggest one that matters and determines who the best is. 🎉

[@karlosdeevs]

@@leeroyarendse5302 they all matter, each to their own..

[@jacqloock]

Yes

[@nspocter4710]

Certainly the most important

[@karlosdeevs]

No

[@helenaville5939]

The Springboks won the recent World Cup. But in that same competition they were beaten by Ireland. Since 2004 the Boks and Ireland played each other 12 times, with the Irish winning 8 of those 12 encounters. And finally, The Boks have been unable to win against Ireland since 2016 - nearly 8 years !! Based on all these facts, I don't think it's far-fetched for him to claim that Ireland are better than the current world champions. What's the definition of being better than the world champions? Being the only team the world champions are unable to beat !

[@jksinorbit]

Pfft... Ireland' can carry on being the best when it doesn't matter.

[@Slayer-kx5fz]

Everything you've said means nothing. Its not about beating the champions its about being the champions. It's about winning the competition, not beating one team. That's what the Boks/NZ do! Ireland and the Northern teams need to learn.

[@subbie5498]

before rsa didn't take ireland seriously the main goal was championships and wc losing to ireland didn't matter at all also our last losses were in recent times the boks between 12 to 17 were awful also you forget we always travel to the north to give you guys a chance how many times have ire beaten sa in sa exactly not much also a win in 2016 is insignificant as we lost to italy that year and we won the series anyway we didn't need to win.

[@geoffnelson6756]

SA are so inconsistent, always excuses when they lose, most used excuse is we didn't have Pollard for that game, hardly the best in the world when they need miracle kicks from the halfway line to avoid defeats, England were about 8th in the world at the WC, if not for an error from Steward and a dubious refereeing decision SA would have been out, beaten by a fairly mediocre England team, I would say that was a lucky break rather than proving themselves as the best.

[@LeMerch]

Ireland are better than the Boks.

[@superbowljoel01]

It's not a big deal. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Thus is like listening to the unending inane debates on American sports shows about who the "GOAT" is for the 10000th time. No one will ever agree and the debate rages on until the end of time. Technically, Ireland do have silverware: reigning six nations and grand slam champions, which they're likely to repeat.

[@quaziforus]

He is entitled to his opinion. SA meet Ireland soon enough.

[@Natedawg38]

Meh. Ireland made some lousy decisions at the world cup which was the difference in the end. They didn't rotate, they didnt take points and they didnt use subs. Its not a shock they lost. Its a shock they didnt anticipate this in the first place. They need to watch how sa played their games in the wc. Ruthless rotation. Brutal decisions. Playing the same team over and over was asking for it. Im an irish fan btw.

[@BaconPancake165]

Don't forget Ireland may have beaten South Africa, but they lost to the All Blacks who South Africa had beaten twice in a row🎉😅

[@benitolonard4441]

A beating B and B beating C doesn't mean that A beats C

[@keithjulie7873]

@@benitolonard4441 Yea, but 4 - 0 still means 4 - 0. Try explaining winning 4 World Cups for the current World Champions, the Springboks to the zero of the Irish - I'll wait...

[@georgerice4207]

And don't forget Ireland beat South Africa in the 2 matches we played them

[@geoffnelson6756]

Boks fans are schizophrenic, on one hand they say only one thing matters, iee. winning the WC trophy in one game every 4 years, no other games, victories, titles matter, yet they also say lets see in July who is the best, those games favour SA due to conditions and altitude, but by their own standards those games shouldn't matter, truth is if they win any game it proves they are the best ( such as the warm up game v NZ) if they lose, it doesn't matter because they didn't have Pollard that day, its hilarious to hear the nonsense coming from boks fans and pundits.

[@PB22559]

They're also forgetting they lost to Ireland and only won the QF, SF and final by 1 point. They way they go on, you'd swear they were hammering the best sides on the planet.

[@geoffnelson6756]

@@PB22559 Agreed, also in all 3 games dubious refereeing dictated the outcome.

[@stimbhoqo]

​​​@@geoffnelson6756 Aaah shame guys do you need some tissues? 😢 It must hurt to to be rated the best team in the world but choke in the world cup QF 😢😢... Even England made it to Semi Final mate, life isn't fair 😢

[@stimbhoqo]

But don't worry, Six Nations is your opportunity

[@johnjames6620]

Not at all. Win or lose in July does not change 3 things, being (1) SA are 4x RWC champions, (2) Ireland has never got past quarters and (3) Ireland imports players whereas SA does not.

[@bfitz111]

Just so ya know....nobody here thinks we're the best in the world. One thing that's happened over the last few years is we've starting playing our own brand of Rugby rather than trying and failing to play and english game or a kiwi style game or a springbok style game. We have proven we can beat any team on our day but RWC determines who's the best. Twill be a fun summer tour for sure lads 🎉🎉

[@helenaville5939]

Silly comment. Brown-nosing much?

[@bfitz111]

@@helenaville5939 what just cos I'm not a hostile little troll? Get fucked

[@davidvaughan4480]

When you get angry that someone has a differant opinion to you ,you really have an unhealthy problem.Winning the world cup only makes you world champions, the best side in the world is obviously subjective NZ ,SA,IRE FRA can all beat each other and no can predict those results.Complaining about referee decisions ,all sides can do that!Jonathon Davies was a wonderful player in both codes and merits his personal opinion .Who did you play for?

[@nkosinathimazibuko2561]

South Africa are world champions, it’s not a matter of opinion, they are the world champions, they are the number 1 ranked team in the world. So sorry, it’s opinionated, it’s usually what happens when you win world cups, you can only do it, if you the best team

[@johnjames6620]

But why the need to say this a few months after a RWC? Sound like an inferiority complex!

[@nkosinathimazibuko2561]

@@johnjames6620 thing is though, South Africa have been world champions though, they defended the title. We are world champs for 5 years now champ

[@johnjames6620]

@@nkosinathimazibuko2561 I agree with you. Its petty to try and diminish our success by making such claims. And the test series is irrelevant as far as who the best is! Teams aim to peak at certain times, just like any athlete does. Also, I have to question is the use of imports. If you want to be the best, at least use your own countrymen.

[@ChristianVonWielligh]

Practically, there's not much between the top 4 or 5 teams in the world. Any one of these teams can beat one of the others on any given day. But there has to be a system to rank teams, which will always be somewhat flawed (because of certain factors such as different comps, uneven WC pools, one team faces another team more often, etc, etc). According to the system that World Rugby employes, the Springbok team is currently the best team in the world, and that is what we must accept and acknowledge. We cannot say that because they lost to Ireland in the pool stages, that Ireland is now the best team. Remember, Ireland lost to the AB's, and even if they had won, no one could garuantee them a place in the final anyway. The ranking system doesn't take games into account between Ireland and the Springboks exclusively. The WC allows a loss in the pool stages and WR officially ranks the Springboks at no1. It is what it is. At least give the Springboks some credit for their hard fought achievement. As rugby lovers we should act sportsmanlke and guard against becoming divisive.

[@TheContrarianMind]

Personally I believe Ireland is the best team in the world, between 2019 WC and the 2023 WC South Africa had a 62% win ratio to Irelands 82%(highest in the world), in addition to South Africa losing twice to Ireland in the same period. South Africa are world champions but they are not the best team. winning a singular competition is just that. Using the following metrics should provide real insight into who is the best International team. 1. World rankings 2. World cup performance 3. Win-Loss records 4. Points differential 5. Consistency in performance 6. Continental championship performance 7.Quality of opposition 8. Player talent and depth 9.Coaching and management 10.Head to head records 11. Style of play 12. Club level All of these must be factored in to determine the "best team" in the world. Its not as simple as saying because SA won the world cup. Ireland win at least 7 or 8 from the above metrics. These are my reasons anyway. That said, You're only as good as your last game. the Top four can beat each other on any day.

[@robjt8889]

Agree my friend, The would cup draw was absolutely terrible to be honest, wasn't a fair reflection of some teams. World rugby are to blame for that.

[@karlosdeevs]

this guy👆

[@jadenphilander8799]

@@robjt8889 Springboks won it and they had the hardest route in the world cup and were in the same pool as Ireland...dont make excuses. Just say you can't perform on the highest stage in rugby.

[@Cltissier89]

​@@jadenphilander8799 💤..... Triggered little man.

[@KarlHanover]

I am an Irishman and the truth is that SA deserve the respect of being the world number one - back to back RWCs is undeniable. That said, I think there is a hair's breadth between SA, NZ, IRL, and FRA (despite current 6N form) at the moment. In the RWC: FRA beat NZ; NZ beat IRL; IRL beat SA; SA beat FRA - any game between the the four is currently a toss up. They are all excellent teams, and on their day will win.

[@stimbhoqo]

Most definitely, anything can happen on the day.... I have huge respect for Ireland, they're definitely in the top 4 and can beat any team. What's bores me are these disrespectful comments....

[@johnjames6620]

No one doubts that anything can happen on the day. That is why it is necessary to delve deeper when asking who is the best and here one needs to look at things like RWC success, squad depth and the reliance on imports.

[@BobH-eh8wu]

I think for the fact that South Africa won the World Cup they deserve to be seen as the best team in the world. It’s only right. Having said that, when Ireland and South Africa play there is barely anything between them and Ireland have had the upper hand in recent years. So basically, South Africa are world champions and have done it back to back which is extremely impressive and then Ireland have an extremely impressive record of 39 played and 41 won or something. I think things could have been different for Ireland had they rested their players in the pool stage because that definitely had an impact on their performance in the quarters. I don’t think it changes much from an Irish perspective in terms of their ability level. They were slightly off and New Zealand had a great performance. And if New Zealand Ireland and South Africa play each other it’s always going to be close. But you’re right it is a ridiculous thing to say Ireland are the best team in the world when South Africa are champions. This coming from an Irish person too. Well done on the World Cup win.

[@MrMond-pc5mw]

Ireland did not say that they were the best in the world, a Welshman did, whose team are playing Ireland in Dublin tomorrow so don't get your insecure knickers in a twist man! Ireland are trying for a back to back slam or at the least win the Six Nations (They did it last year!) which is no easy thing. Chill out will ye.. From an Irish man (born in SA).

[@cloudtorqueglobal6804]

There is no "best" team in the world. As spectators, we have the luxury of watching some awesome (or, for the Kiwi's - Owesome) rugby at present (how I hated watching the AB's win win win win) and on the day, almost any of the top 5 (maybe 6) teams can beat any opponent. 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 is the current sequence and nowhere in this is the clover; that then suggests that Ireland is equal to Namibia, Italy etc. when it comes to the big games when it counts most (teach the pundits that winning a battle does not imply winning the war).

[@donfalcon1495]

Who said South Africa and New Zealand are not world class? He never said that! For me New Zealand are the best team in the world. They beat Ireland in the World Cup and had one brain freeze moment in the World Cup which cost them the final! Yes South Africa are a great team but winning 3 games by 1 point in a major competition requires a decent dash of luck. That’s one refereeing decision away from these results being reversed! I’ve yet to hear a South African fan acknowledge that! Ireland have plenty of silverware! You seem to believe that 1 competition every 4 years is the only reason to play rugby! If Ireland win the series in South Africa this summer, will South Africa still be the best team in the world?

[@karlosdeevs]

Probz not

[@nkosinathimazibuko2561]

That’s a huge IF mate, but all the best in coming to win here😂. I personally never seen a Northern Hemisphere side win a series here, but hey, they did it in New Zealand, so I guess they capable, but if you were to ask me…HIGHLY UNLIKELY😂

[@donfalcon1495]

@@nkosinathimazibuko2561 for me highly likely, only time will tell!

[@ariakayleighjordan9847]

I agree Ireland are the best in the northern hemisphere ❤

[@johndevoy5792]

Sorry to say, but I would agree with the ex-Welsh Referee.

[@AdrianMoses-f5s]

Best teams win world cups they don't stop at quarter finals

[@RabbitholeIsrael]

it is about world cups, nothing else. inbetween is preparation time. Doesnt matter if you look awesome during preparation time but fall out the bus every world cup. That is ireland for you. Doesnt look like they are preparing for the next world cup. You can see the springbok coaches picked almost half the team new players. bringing in alot of new young talent cause they are already eyeing the next world cup.

[@Darren_S]

It's silly performing well on tests that don't matter much and bragging about it but keep on failing the final exam. If you fail the final exam you just aren't good enough, period.

[@gordondarker4073]

Who's bragging

[@neilmontgomery3470]

In terms of win rate he's right and by some distance too.

[@Darren_S]

Winning the games that don't matter 😂😂😂

[@johnjames6620]

Over 50 years? With or without imports?

[@vuyisatwani1036]

Ireland is the best team that never made it past the Quarter final in the World cup and France is the best team that never won the world cup😅

[@helenaville5939]

And South Africa is the best team who can't manage to win against Ireland for the past 8 years. A team that keeps choking against Ireland for 8 years cannot possibly claim to be the best team in the world.

[@stimbhoqo]

​@@helenaville5939aaah shame do you need some tissues? 😢 It must really hurt to be rated best team in the world but choke in the QF of the most important tournament 😢 but don't worry Six Nations is your title 😢

[@stefannag2015]

If you're gonna go back years then that doesn't help your point, you realize that right? What is the overall record between Ireland and SA? Case closed, and then there's 4 world cups, Ireland would need 10 lifetimes to be that elite, I'm going by the fact that's nearly how many world cup quarters they've crashed out of.@@helenaville5939

[@darraghmorgan3203]

I would have to correct you there my son, Ireland have plenty of silverware, just not the World Cup yet.

[@leareilbuys3311]

A lion is not concerned about the opinions of sheep. Hierdie Julie word hulle behoorlik op gevok😂

[@christianmccann9400]

Isn't the bok .. prey to the lions .. lol

[@subbie5498]

​@@christianmccann9400the bok eats clovers

[@LeMerch]

SA can’t beat IRE so he has a point.

[@subbie5498]

@@LeMerch they will when they come here get ready to be silent whe n we thump you this year

[@karlosdeevs]

@@subbie5498you mean shamrocks, get ur facts right dummy😂

[@José-j9y3b]

Nothern hemisphere pundits and fans all talk just like tehe english national soccer team fans ,but when it comes to winner takes all. Like the springboks they disapear or all they ve got to show is sour grapes.

[@kerrylass2]

For the last time it is NOT coming from Irish commentators but in this case a Welshman saying this and others who are NOT Irish (heard an ex-Scottish player saying this too recently). These people have an agenda in saying this as their sides are facing Ireland in the 6 Nations..

[@Slayer-kx5fz]

Let them continue in their delusion. The 4 years between World Cups are not only about consistency and winning every game, but also about the ability to build a World cup winning team. You dont play the game to beat one team, you play to win the ultimate competition. Its not just about beating the champs on the day but rather becoming champs through the highest competition in the sport. ✌🏿💛💚🇿🇦

[@LeMerch]

Is that why South Africa can’t beat Ireland with a four year run up?

[@Slayer-kx5fz]

@LeMerch No. Ireland has been pampered and lucky when playing against us. Call it "the luck of the irish"😋 with crucial decisions going their way(which i will not go into/time&space). Pampered cos up until recently, the IRFU was scared to bring Ireland to SA, which is why they are playing us for the first time at home in decades, if ever, later on this year. This means we don't get to play ireland often, which puts us both at a disadvantage, but Ireland always gets the home game with one neutral game at the WC, giving them the home field advantage almost always. In any case, like I said, it's about proving yourself through the highest comp, which is the World Cup. Boks 4, Ireland 0000000000. That's a zero for every cup they haven't won, which is all. I rest my case. ✌🏿💚💛🇿🇦

[@eirehere3026]

U should be annoyed at the Welsh guy. The Irish said nothing.

[@johnjames6620]

@@LeMerch Firstly, they were all away games for SA and Ireland uses imports. Field a true Irish side and then see!

[@LeMerch]

@@johnjames6620Ireland doesn't use 'imports'. Obviously you're pretty uneducated on this. There are Irish guys born abroad, why can't we accept they want to play for Ireland? There are project players taken and brought up through the Irish system and made into the world class stars they are now thanks to the Irish system. Nobody comes as an 'import' and just starts playing for Ireland right away. You have to be a stupid idiot to think like that.

[@duncanmcdonald6872]

Pure nonsense, Ireland have never got past the quarter finals, South Africa have won the last 2 world cups, need I say any more

[@eamonmoore5761]

I love South African rugby , nothing between sa Ireland New Zealand and France with DuPont , but your logic is absolute rhubarb , try harder do better 👍🏻

[@nkosinathimazibuko2561]

World Cup trophy mate, that’s what between South Africa and the other countries, it’s the World Cup

[@wannabeegonnabee2593]

the springboks lose games on purpose !!!! they could win all games if they wanted to but then world rugby would get a excuse to exclude us AGAIN 🤣🤣🤣please explain that to JD🤔🤔🤔

[@jmo8934]

He’s entitled to his opinion. It doesn’t have to attract vitriol. Personally I think the WC showed there was very little between the top 4 teams. France have not reacted well to their loss in a home WC and Ireland have reacted in the opposite fashion to their elimination. Things can move on quickly as seen by France dropping off badly and Ireland play SA in SA in a two test series in the summer. That will be a good marker. NZ also did really well in the WC and could have won it and now have Robertson in charge.

[@johnjames6620]

The issue to me is why does Ireland find it necessary to import players?

[@nkosinathimazibuko2561]

Another thing we got to consider, and I’m not taking anything from Ireland, but the other teams in the Northern Hemisphere are just BAD.

[@warfit3716]

Quiet right, The Springboks won the RWC therefor best team in the world.. Till Ireland make it out of a QF, sit down 🪑

[@Mr.RB123]

To be the best u have to be the world champions not the six nations champions 😂

[@suffern63]

I see there is a sticker describing Davies as a clown,I don't know if it is clickbait but I won't be watching the video to find out.

[@geoffhogan4831]

This northern hemisphere perception reflected by world rugby when picking world team, world player, world coach of the year . Solution.... Show It on the field in July 2024 at Loftus, Cape Town.....

[@GRIMMY106]

Just to throw it out there south africa did not care to win the game ireland because there was a possibility that we might have played them in a final. And did we really lose against ireland with 11 points missed at goals and robbed from a try in the last second. Ball was out when the ref called the game when SA was on the try line. Come on. Ireland is good but come on you have to perform when it matters. They can stuff their cuboards full of six nation trophies but they will not be the best in the world.

[@TineBeo]

NZ beat a jaded Ireland when NZ got to rest against minnows AND Ireland beat SA when both were fresh. Unlucky in the WC as we know.. I agree with Davies. Best in the World for sure.

[@markisaacs5277]

You so correct we still have the prove who the best team in world, and Ireland on paper yes😂😂😂😂

[@eamonnoneill1340]

South Africa are ranked as the best team in the world no doubt about that but Ireland definitely play the best rugby of any international team the tests in July in South Africa will finally decide this debate

[@hopeaguero7460]

Early signs of dementia creeping in ignore him.

[@jameswyatt4443]

South Africa don’t dominate in between World Cups because they experiment more than any other nation. Hence why they just won back to back WCs, they were the best prepared.

[@avelamasuku660]

This time it's even scarier coz the Boks upcoming young players are just world class talents the potential is insane South Africa just produce monsters 😮😮

[@LeMerch]

Ireland also experiment. Stats show it

[@Chris-vw8yj]

When was the last time SA beat Ireland?

[@davidroseitg]

Ireland are brilliant, they beat NZ in NZ, they beat SA last 3 times they played, beat NZ , 4 out of last 6, in summer we see who is best now. World cup is only every 4 years, SA were best in world at end of world cup

[@Mr.D104]

You couldn't have said it better bro...

[@1jacquesnel]

If Ireland played the top 4 ranked teams to get to the final and win the final, I would agree, but they did not. Springboks played in 4 world cup finals and won all of them. We missed 2 world cups before we were allowed to be part of world rugby, the one before 95 we had one of the best Springbok teams ever and if we were to have played that tournament, we would have had 5 world cup victories, maybe even 6. Just one more thing, the 2024 Springbok team will be scary - front with very good and hungry young players and backs with serious skills and speed. They are at the Boks Alignment squad now. Rassie will be in the oppositions heads soon again.

[@LeMerch]

Yeah you lost to Ireland in the last wold cup but let’s talk about 1995 😂

[@jadenphilander8799]

@@LeMerch frogs still haven't gotten over it. First its France robbed then its springboks doping.

[@1jacquesnel]

, and Ireland lost to New Zealand the team we beat in the WORLD-CUP Final, so what is your point?

[@benitolonard4441]

@esnel Point is that South Africa needed another team to beat the team that they couldn't beat to win the cup. That's two WCs in a row that its happened.

[@1jacquesnel]

@@benitolonard4441Man you need to read up on how a tournament works. You can lose in a pool stage but not in the quarter or semi final or even in the final if you want to WIN the World Cup. This is something Ireland has to learn, maybe then your team will get to the Important games in the world cup tournament. Beating the Springboks in a pool game means NOTHING if you loose in a quarter final, then you go home. The team that Wins the FINAL are the WORLD CHAMPIONS for the next four years, nothing else matters, except if you are the SPRINGBOKS, then it's 8 years. Not even the current world ranking can change that.

[@TineBeo]

Also..The WC is still just one competition. The draw made a shite of it this year as well. Ireland won a series in NZ and Beat the Bokkies 3 in a row. One loss to NZ can't cancel that out soz. Ireland are the best team in the World at the moment.

[@johnjames6620]

Why you have so many SH imports? Why can you NEVER get past a quarter-final?

[@MrChenjinyuan]

Why bother with interim measurements. 6 nations does not have the same quality as RWC. The only signicant measurement is who is the holder of the RWC after every 4years. Everything leading up to that is just a dress rehearsal. Imagine many consider this the best Ireland team ever! Yet they still never made it past the quarter finals. If that doesn't sober u up nothing will.

[@Rasperdan]

A KZbinr calling people names..... lets check his subs. 5k subs aaa that explains it. Grow up dude.

[@Darren_S]

What has his amount of subs got to do with anything? Did the video upset you?

[@Rasperdan]

@@Darren_S Calling people names is not a good fit for a KZbinr or even a man. That's why I posted the comment.

[@Darren_S]

​​​@@RasperdanI agree he shouldn't have called him a clown, but that was a clown comment from Davis. How can you judge who is the best in the world if you haven't seen the #1 and #2 of the RWC play yet? It's just silly.

[@Rasperdan]

@@Darren_S I agree you can't judge but you are allowed to have an opinion. That's all it was.... an opinion.

[@pasekammako1976]

i think the West will always wanna tell the people or make the people believe that an ideology is more important than a fact. i mean what is the reason to have World Cup, an ideology is to belive that playing more games makes you the best even though most games are not important .. the answer is to be the best in the world n thats a fact not an ideology... south africa is the best team in the world no one can deny that fact.

[@eirehere3026]

Y u moaning about Ireland. They said nothing. But my money would be Ireland in July.

[@colinhulett8139]

Very well put my friend!! I think as South Africans, we have to see our selves as the comment was made bellow, LIONS! History shows it, the rest of the world do not like it that an African country can be the best. haha. Nothing has changed in history!! We even gave them a head start ('87 ~ '91) haha. I re-watched the Semi and Final just last week. It was great to see how the refs did not get influenced by the French crowd and this kind of behaviour. I remember after the Irish game vs the Bok in the WC, I smiled, you could tell we were on it and that was not a concern, we left a number of points out there. I did see afterward on (Squidge Rugby), how the Irish had to cheat to beat us. Amazing, not even a talking point, but the world were all over the Boks for their splits on the bench. haha.

[@RabbitholeIsrael]

the boks definitely didnt want to beat the irish. It was evident when you look at the choises they made during the game. For instance they just stopped competing in the lineouts suddenly for the remainder of the game. Although they were dominant in lineouts when they competed.

[@annger8163]

Omg sour grapes Ireland beat you fair and square no matter what KZbin channel told you otherwise 😂😂😂😂

[@RabbitholeIsrael]

@@annger8163 nz beat you fair and square and you didn't even make the top 4 😂😂😂

[@anotherstormer]

The margins are non-existent and I for one welcome that. Fair to say any of the top sides can beat the other on the day and the "best in the world" tag isn't what it used to be when NZ were so dominant ~2010 - 2020. If anything SA performs better with the underdog tag and saying Ireland are #1 is fair enough if you ask me. They have the highest win % of the last while.

[@neilmontgomery3470]

Let's be honest. South Africa could have lost any of the knockout games. They didn't but sometimes things go your way and sometimes they don't. There is not much of a gap between SA, Ire, Fra and NZ. Just be grateful things went your way .

[@johnjames6620]

Sure, but why has SA 4 RWC's (50% win rate) and Ireland never getting past the quarters and having to import players?

[@neilmontgomery3470]

@@johnjames6620 There is answer to that. South Africa along with New Zealand have been the traditional power house in rugby for a while. Occasionally, England or France would challenge the duopoly and make it to a final. Ireland are fairly new to top level, only about 10 or 12 years. Before that we were quite poor rarely winning the Six Nations, getting the wooden spoon 8 out of ten years in the 90s and rarely if ever beating touring teams from the southern hemisphere. We are really just getting started. South Africa are an excellent team but they did have a lot of things go their way in the run up to the final. England were the better team in the semi final and New Zealand had a one man disadvantage in the final. Just be grateful things went your way rather than abusing Irish fans.

[@johnjames6620]

@@neilmontgomery3470 There was no abuse. You made a comment, which you felt free to make and I responded. That's it. What I stated was facts. As the saying goes, facts do not care about your feelings! The point is, "things have gone" South Africa's way 50% of the time at RWC's! After a while, one must accept, that there is something more to it all than just co-incidentally "things just going our way". In this regard, I point out that a French professor put our success at the 2023 RWC to our team spirit which other teams were not able to match. I believe that one of the main reasons many teams couldn't match our spirit is because of their reliance on imports. In the SA team, Siya and Rassie et al know first-hand what Handre's or Eben's or Cheslin's everyday life experience and upbringing was about and vice versa. With imports this situation is not easily achieved.

[@neilmontgomery3470]

@@johnjames6620 Look I'm happy for South Africa but when you win 3 knockout games by one point you've got to be humble and admit things went your way. Sure Rassie is a great coach and Siya an inspirational captain but if you ask them they would acknowledge that good fortune played a part. South Africa probably has the best team culture and tremendous toughness but even then that is no guarantee. I am not saying you were lucky merely luck plays a part in close matches. For example it is highly unlikely you would have beaten the ABs if Cane had not been sent off considering you barely got over the line against 14.

[@johnjames6620]

@@neilmontgomery3470 Sadly, once again you diminish South Africa's success by saying that we wouldn't have beaten NZ without Cane being off the field. I point out the following: 1. NZ got a number of red cards during the 2023 RWC so it would seem that it was part of their strategy to play dirty / push the limits. When you do this, then certain things go in your favor (like injuring Bongi and only getting a yellow card), while other things do not go in your favor (like the Cane red card). 2. It was well known that SA was dependent on Bongi (with Marx out) and it seems patently obvious that NZ chose to risk a card offence in order to get rid of Bongi. With Bongi out, our line-out did not function, so their dirty strategy worked. Maybe, they should have got a red card for the Bongi injury! 4. The yellow cards of Siya and Cheslin went some way to neutralize the Cane red card and this is more especially when one takes into account the injury to Bongi which I believe was deliberate. 3. Some pundits believe that NZ's try came after a forward pass. Either way, they were fortunate that no forward was called by the referee in this instance. As far as winning by one point on 3 occasions is concerned, I point out the following: 1. One can view the glass as half full or half empty. So instead of saying that SA was lucky, one could marvel at their ability to control the game, especially in the closing stages and to thereby not concede penalties in the late stage of a tight game. 2. To my mind, the more games that SA won by close margins show that the margins were less about luck and more about ability to close out a tight game. As Gary Player famously said: "The more I practice, the luckier I get". 3. Many games are decided by close margins. SA beat NZ in 1995 in extra time, England beat Australia in 2003 in extra time, (3) NZ beat France by 1 point in 2011 and NZ beat SA by two points in 2015. SA knew that games were going to be very tight and developed a strategy to close out a game.

[@ritzemaritzema-xo4dz]

4 times WChamps. how many cup does ireland have? lol zero

[@NelsonGym]

They were not even the best on that day😅😅😅

[@LeMerch]

When they beat South Africa?

[@jadenphilander8799]

@@LeMerch yes, because Ireland were lucky springboks missed 11 points.

[@BruceMacgregorCampbell]

My fok, Magriet. The 6 July cannot come fast enough. This continual bleating on about Ireland being the best in the world is laughable . The reality is that perennial WC QF chokers have beaten a demoralised and fragile France and > Italy.. and now they are World Number 1 again?. This myth is going to evaporate like Irish mist under a baking African sun at Ellis Park. And again at Kings Park. Rassie will be playing this video to our Boks plenty before those matches.

[@Darren_S]

Exactly. The Boks broke the French spirit and they lacked Du Pont in that game. Then they go and beat the mighty Italians and now suddenly they are unofficial world champs. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@morrie1607]

my two cents .... in the ranking I have a concern unless we align the southern Hemisphere and Northern Hemisphere timeline meaning the competitions needs to run concurrently. After this 6 nations Ireland will be on top and when the Southern plays we will see a change. Secondly the Northern Hemisphere championships are already I think in their six seven rounds yet Competitions down south not even started.

[@AB-qp6yj]

I think you are missing the point. Sa were the world champions on that day. And that's it. And that's the same for any team. So JD is correct.

[@johnjames6620]

Why the need to try and diminish SA's success? Also, if Ireland is so good why do they import players from the SH?

[@FloatLikeABee]

In a game where everything comes down to one tournament every 4 years, you don't have to do any talking, you just have to win. Criers will always find something to cry about. The future won't remember them, it will just remember who lifted the trophy.

[@LeMerch]

What are you on about? The World Cup is the World Cup. It’s not who’s the best team a year later etc. It’s who’s the best team of that tournament. Ireland are easily the best team in the world at the moment. South Africa can’t even beat them, even at the World Cup. New Zealand just about beat them when they had a try held up, and Ireland played their worst game in 2 years.. it’s not black and white but some people are gonna be biased.

[@jadenphilander8799]

@@LeMerch Its actually who is the best team for the next 4 years...Thats The Reason why the world cup happens...to see who the best really is at a tournament where there is an equal playing field. We cant see in between world cup who the best is. The SH has a different schedule to the NH. SH plays the NH at the beginning of a NH season and NH play the SH at the beginning of the SH season. So that means we wil never have an even playing field in between world cups. Thats why the world cup exists.

[@fmully1429]

The only people crying here are South Africans because people think that although they are world cup holders they may not be the best team in the world, how dare they have an opinion?

[@jadenphilander8799]

@@fmully1429 The problem is, not a single NZ pundit or fan is saying that springboks are not the best...It is Welsh and Irish fans and Pundits....2 Nations who have not come close to achieving what South Africa, NZ , Wallabies and England has achieved. Irish rugby history is a joke compared to South Africas. And the debate is so shit. The world cup is there to determine who the best team in the world is...the year after the world cup is a reset of the rugby cycle where teams rebuild, new coaches come, older players retire, its all rebuild for every team in the world...the only team who didnt have to rebuild was Ireland and Scotland...and they are celebrating wins against young teams that are under construction while Scotlanfld and Ireland are at their all time best....And yet while beikg at their all time best...still couldn't compete with the big teams om the world stage. The reason why man springbols supporters are triggered...is because the people who are saying they are not the best in the world are coming from countries like Ireland and Wales...and its just disrespectful because there are players in Tge springboks who have achieved more in their individual careers than Ireland have ever achoeved in their rugby history. Its like a Tottenham fan telling Real Madrid fans that they are not the best.

[@IUseTheCTKSMethod]

Like CZ said...4

[@l8on17]

Calling Jonathan Davies in your picture a clown I think is poor. You need to shape up your publishing to compete with the best, you’re way to bias, no offence, I won’t be subscribing until you learn to be less bias, really poor

[@KeiraIlze]

If he know South African's, he would have not made such a comment. This will only give Rassie and the team more motivation to demolish Ireland in South Africa later this year. I hope he is going to watch Chasing the Sun Part 2 to be released in March. He might then understand and maybe even get some insights into how "not to beat Bokke"

[@LeMerch]

Haha you remind me of all the delusional bok fans who said the exact same thing before playing Ireland in the World Cup and you LOST. Also, Davies is Welsh. Not Irish.

[@Giantd20]

Boks are such wingers, ireland have won 31 of their last 34, Boks are the luckiest team in the last 5 years, only won by 1 point in their last 3 games, ireland will rip SA apart in SA

[@Darren_S]

😂😂😂

[@karlosdeevs]

@Giantd20 could happen you know..

[@stimbhoqo]

Like that will get you any closer to winning world cup 😂😂

[@jadenphilander8799]

Why couldnt Ireland win the world cup with one point? You forget that Springboks missed 5 key starting players because of injuries and never had a hooker in the final...Whem they had their strongest team, they battered ABs 35-7, giving them their greatest defeat in history, thats by more points than you neat Wales. Know your place in this sport Pussio, you have no World Cup Pedigree and have never performed at the highest level and at the highest stage of this sport.

[@Giantd20]

@@jadenphilander8799 your greatest player was Ben O Keffee, Boks are mediocre team with the exception of a few weeks every four years, you can't win a rugby championship for love nor money have a win rate of about 50- 60% over 4 years, England played their final in 2019 against NZ,, and then NZ did you another favour by knocking out a team SA can't beat in over 8 years, so in reality NZ have handed you two world cups, so you know your place thay you've been the luckiest team in world cup history, without NZ you'd have two world cups with your mediocre team

[@Ballas56]

The rest of the world is entitled to dream - The Welsh has always been dreamers. Ireland can only dream about not choking.

[@helenaville5939]

South Africa can only dream about beating Ireland. Eight long years since they have done it. Dream on........

[@jadenphilander8799]

@@helenaville5939 And we will beat them. 8 long years but in that time we won 2 world cups, a rugby championship, a B&I lions series and gave NZ 2 Historic record defeats and Wales a Historic defeat in Wales and we are still going to win more. Playing shit NH teams that are rebuilding and are construction is no achievement. If Ireland wins a 6N this year, it wont mean shit because they are the only team that dont need to rebuild like England, Wales, France, etc.

[@patrickchilds2987]

Jiffy a welshman lobs a grenade in about who is best team t between Ireland and the Boks and some on here are getting all upset. If you wsnt to decide between the two set an agreed criteria on what makes a team the best. Of its rwcs then it will be the Boks. If you set to wins between the two sides over say the last five yeats then it will be Ireland. Or continues concurrent wins then its probably the all Blacks. Without agreement on what constitutes the best team then you will never answer this question. .

[@MarlonVan]

spot on my buddy!!! You don't need to apologise... we agree with you all the way!

[@georgerice4207]

The 6 nations is the hardest competition in the world and Ireland are looking to do grand slams back to back and under 20 have won 6 nations back to back 2 years in a row and look good to make it 3 in a row this year and Beaten finalist in under 20 world Cup were South Africa and New Zealand didn't count but don't worry we will be playing soth Africa in a test series very soon and didn't we beat New Zealand in a test series in New Zealand

[@Mr-Litch]

Well based on that I guess it's ok... for now. But I guess they really wanna forget four months ago

[@NS-nk9hf]

Let Ireland, France and the rest say what they want. Claim all the tags they want. The only tag that matters is SA 4 WC Champs, Ireland 0 😂😂😂😂😂. 2027 it will be Rassie vs Razor.

[@christianmccann9400]

He was Welsh..

[@NS-nk9hf]

@@christianmccann9400 read my post again....

[@karlosdeevs]

@@christianmccann9400😂true

[@user-mf1og3wu2s]

Itsnot be to number one who always the best its your performance on that day so the springboks beat alltop six in a row in that world cup it goes down who have BMT and ireland dont have it they are good on any given day but BMT they dont haveit and it goes with experience.

[@henryshen5445]

The three players who scored tries for Ireland against New Zealand are all New Zealanders...... they can't win many matches without poaching players from abroad.

[@user-bf8hv5fc5x]

My friending.... we never forget the choke

[@helenaville5939]

The 8 times South Africa choked against Ireland in the past 12 matches between them? Or do you mean when South Africa choked against Ireland in every match they played since 2016? South Africa just can't seem to stop losing against Ireland. 2016???? That's a long time trying to get a win.

[@user-bf8hv5fc5x]

🤫@@helenaville5939

[@malusivula8218]

Great response 😂😂😂

[@miguelberthet6723]

6 nations is the 3 erd tournament in importance, behind WC and RCH. 6 nations won 1 WC .Rugby Championship countries won all the rest. Ireland never semi. End of argument. This guy is lying to his listeners and himself. Alcohol , Age and concussions have a toll on reality. Have we ever seen a semifinal of a WC with all 4 nations being NH. We had all 4 be from the SH. History and truth will set us free.

[@ryanlawlor7862]

A welsh man expressed an opinion, get ovef it, saffas always very defensive and offended

[@karlosdeevs]

yh, always a hissy fit no thought

[@AizenIPlannedIt]

can't call yourself the best without a world cup to show for it

[@readesiun988]

Get it straight, he is Welsh not Irish

[@Kiljayden]

No point even making a video, everyone knows NZ and South Africa are miles ahead of any team in the world. Hopefully Auz catches up again in due time!

[@karlosdeevs]

but he did, just like all them folk bought it😂

[@Alias-gy3tz]

4 World Cup trophies vs 0 suggests he is delusional.

[@benitolonard4441]

Wow, the 2024 South Africa team has won 4 WCs. Was I in a coma or something? Is the phrase' at the moment' too complicated for you?

[@Alias-gy3tz]

@@benitolonard4441 They won 2... does that make you feel better? South Africa won 4 out of 8.

[@benitolonard4441]

@@Alias-gy3tz Pity you needed someone to tell you how your original comment was moronic.

[@juanayala4560]

GREEN AND GOLD❤ 🎉

[@geoffnelson6756]

Ha ha ha, brilliant, well said Jiffy, how to really wind up SA. I watched a recent video with the 43 SA players Razzie has grouped, they have a vast number of players to choose from, all big aggressive athletes, Ireland doesn't have that, they have to choose from a much smaller player pool and use skill and tactics to take on the bigger countries. SA had some good fortune at the world cup, they scraped 3 one point wins, I concede that the battled and fought like no other team, but without the boot of Pollard digging them out of defeats they would have been out at the quarters. SA are only no.1 as a team gets double points for winning the WC, Ireland achieved their no 1 by consistent results, Ireland are up on victories on France NZ and SA over the last number of years so definately deserve the no 1 tag. The WC is a prestigious title, but it is suited to the bigger countries who can sustain and rotate the number of games, so it is a particular set of circumstances es that prevents smaller teams from winning, more endurance rather than skill.

[@LeMerch]

That makes no sense. Ireland has twice the population of New Zealand ffs.. and 70 million diaspora..

[@geoffnelson6756]

@@LeMerchSo Ireland has a population of 70m? What are you smoking? Only players living and playing for one of the 4 provinces qualify for Ireland, rugby is the 4th most popular sport in a country of 5m, similar to NZ where rugby is the no.1 and National sport, yet Ireland can get to no. 1 and compete with the best, SA 4th most popular sport is hockey, where their best position ever in a world tournament is 10th, maybe Razzie could coach the hockey team.lol

[@helenaville5939]

If they are so good why do they keep choking when they play Ireland? Eight years (since 2016) trying to win against Ireland and they keep choking.

[@geoffnelson6756]

@@helenaville5939 You're missing the SA mindset, the boks don't 'choke' if they lose its because of the ref, or an 'experimental side' or they didn't have Pollard that day, you see the boks never lose or choke, so a loss is just disregarded and ignored which means they are always the best team in the world, selective memory.

[@jadenphilander8799]

@@geoffnelson6756 The Last 2 was experimental though. Rassie is known for that. Why do you think Vermeulen and other were sittimg in the coaches box against Ireland in the pool stage? Its a pool stage, that game was not a must win dammit. And they got robbed at the Aviva, even though it was not a full strength springboks team.

[@Darren_S]

NZ put a cricket score on Italy and they beat Ireland, but no...Ireland are the best. 😂😂😂

[@annger8163]

Ireland beat NZ “twice” in NZ. So your logic is really flawed.

[@Darren_S]

@@annger8163 NZ beat Ireland the last time they met while having 14 men on the pitch for 20 min. Also, why only go back to those 2 games where Ireland won. Why not account for the whole history between these 2 teams? So uhm...I think you need to check your logic.

[@subbie5498]

​@@annger8163so sa beat nz twice before the wc ire beaten nz in nz is history that was way before now and the wc

[@annger8163]

@@Darren_S let’s just look at the history of the last decade! I think it’s fairly even. Rugby is our “fourth” most popular game, it’s your number one game!!!! I think we are doing fine. Thanks for your biased analysis 👏🏻

[@Samuel-w7x3b]

spot on brother. Davis is Crazy

[@22grena]

Did South Africa beat Ireland in the World Cup?

[@karlosdeevs]

@user-cb3gk9ch9s *Davies

[@karlosdeevs]

@user-bc3gk9ch9s *Davies

[@marchennink]

The Irish are strong. I'm sure they'd trade 2 Grandslams for a world cup semi final. Just Bitter

[@nspocter4710]

No doubt, Ireland are the best team in the world right now. Also true that SA and NZ have not played a game so they cant be considered.

[@adriaanjagers9919]

They were lucky they beat us in the world cup that ball was out the Ref did not spot it😂

[@entmeister-general415]

NZ are the best team in the world imho to lose the final by just 1 point with 14 men was incredible with Razor I fully expect them to win the rugby championship and have an unbeaten year or two before the next world cup. Ireland cannot get it together at the RWC they always fall short against SH teams as their pack gets overpowered.

[@jadenphilander8799]

they had 70% ball posession and Sourh Africa didnt have a hooker and missed key players. Clearly the ABs performed better with 14 men, certain teams just look better and more balanced with 14en so lomg they have most of the posession like ABs did because they were being played off the park when they had 15 men.

[@bengormley2517]

this guy is very prickly....wow...we'll see in July when Ireland win and beat SA again.....

[@gerrykennedy9085]

The truth of the matter is he’s probably correct.

[@Frankabagnale33]

South Africa Technically won the World Cup, but disallowed try of the ABs in the final (according to World Rugby) was valid and should have stood. So in reality the ABs won. That same referee (Wayne Barnes =idiot) awarded 3 penalties against Ireland for ABs infringements. Without that 9 points it’s a completely different game. So yes Ireland is top 3