Former TOP 500 Support Wants to Learn...MERCY? | Overwatch 2 Spectating

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[@Illusion517]

A doom flaming the supports every time they don't magically save them from over extending, I can't believe it!

[@FredGreen182]

11:46 "Are they going to nerf Phara when they have the Transformers collab or are they gonna do it prior because they recognize players are not enjoying playing against that?" Oh, poor past emongg, he doesn't know they were actually gonna buff her, lol

[@buddytheratmore7540]

how did they buff her when they removed all damage from the concussion blast, now making her do significantly less damage as a whole, making her worse

[@FredGreen182]

@@buddytheratmore7540 The 30 dmg in the concussion is not the issue, it's that her dmg radius is gigantic, and concussion moving you around making extra hard to kill her, now they buffed concussion with a bigger radius and more knockback. So primary fire dmg is still great and she has an easier time moving you around preventing you landing shots on her, that's why it's a buff

[@SimplyChanGaming]

@@FredGreen182yeah as a high masters phara I was upset because the 1 shot combo is a lot harder BUT I did not realize how much more movement you get from conc 😂😂

[@hihiglug]

Even if they're only just learning Mercy, their rank is very apparent because of their positioning/game sense Looks very different from my bronze/silver games. I think this person did a great job

[@crazykid67034]

honestly this mercy played pretty well considering they used to main ana. definitely better than any mercy play ive ever made

[@VideoKingist]

Chat, is the pre- or post-married Emongg?

[@eliserss]

pre

[@megachung456]

You can tell by his aura

[@namelessbliznew1926]

If he got married he would be exhausted 😂😂😂

[@tankdjsims]

He said it in the video at 19:39

[@user-qo8qn6mc2r]

It's preemongg

[@DaLoserisYou]

If this match was before the patch then the Mercy wouldn't have been able to see how low the Bap was at 9:48. Gotta remember that you have knowledge that the players don't due to spectating.

[@tevildech5497]

Hey!! The Mercy/GodGriffith here! I'm sorry I wasnt able to attend the stream. You did help me yo learn quite the bit as I noticed later on that my risk taking came from me just sort of not respecting my enemies. Which ruined my ability to pull these things off as I ranked up. However at this point ive fallen into gold 5. Which frustrates me and just makes me feel like Mercy isn't a pick that you can really climb with anymore. I miss the game like it used to be. But perhaps thats just me dwelling in the past. Thank you for helping me improve ♡ While my rank doesnt reflect it as of now, I feel like I am doing more consistent, less risky and better :] Also the Chat made me feel way less bad about my age and I lobe you guys so much ❤

[@Zokalar]

I will add a side note to not forget that there's a very considerable delay with your beam breaking once you break line of sight and if you peak at any time during that it will reset the delay, use that mechanic to avoid peaking more then you need to as you can be punished for superjumping in the open a lot depending on the comp and rank. You don't always need to constantly hold los on your beam target because of this. You can also jump backwards on mercy once you reach the apex of the flight too, you might know this but I never saw you use it. I use it to be reach someone out of range that desperately needs help and quickly put myself back into cover that's not as deep because of the delay I mentioned as it also counts for range. Overall though you have very good movement, beam management and game sense, mercy is a hero that absolutely relies on what your team is doing and it's rough sometimes. I like the understanding that you can finish off out of position and low health targets yourself.

[@tevildech5497]

@@Zokalar Oh shit! Yea the flying backwards is something I wanna implement more, but nowadays I fumble a lot more with my hands than I used to bnrjnbvfd. The delay is a good idea actually, I am still getting used to timing and stuff, sometimes I even ruin my rezzes by getting too far away. And due to my ana mannerism I just often wanna dps when I shouldnt heh

[@catcofi]

idk if you're looking for more criticism but another thing is you dont always have to super jump and be in the air 24/7 especially if they have any type of hitscan!! (example: at 9:47 you rez'd and did a superjump, leaving yourself open for the cassidy to kill you, instead rez, and use ga to reposition back to ur team) use your surroundings to take cover! you can also cancel your GA to refresh the cool down faster if you need to keep up with a teamate and have your GA cooldown to reposition. if you want to maximize mercy, learn her rez techs, such as super jump rez, slingshot rez, etc. you can find mercy parkour maps to practice this all over the custom game section or join the mercy parkour server! as a start ur doing very well, mercy is incredibly difficult to climb ranks with so dont be discouraged!

[@tevildech5497]

​@catcofi Thank you so much for the feedback! Yeah I feel like trying to maximize airtime has been biting me in the ass a lot lately. I didnt know that cancelling GA affected the cooldown thank you for sharing that! And good perspective on the Cass, that might be why I have a harder time playing when my enemies do a littoe better. I am not used to playing behind covers cjrnfnfn. I genuinely appreciate the feedback and I'm gonna take it in like a Sponge and will try to implement it into my gameplay >:3

[@h3artromanc3]

Honestly I think you did really good playing mercy, your movement was great. Just a side note imo maybe don’t super jump all the time bc that’ll make you easier to shoot, but everything else was amazing 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

[@TifancheOW]

I play a lot of mercy and the one way I learned how to have good positioning and survivability is through the concept of 'positioning like you're hiding from a hitscane and repositioning like you're running from a flanker. Basically you don't want the enemy to see you and you don't want them to get to you.

[@Leuhim]

Mercy do be slinking

[@TifancheOW]

@@Leuhim lmaoo, yeah!

[@tevildech5497]

Yea I noticed during this game that a lot of times i tried to get myself OUT of danger, I got basically INTO enemy lines. Since this VOD i focus more on making it feel a little like Dead By Daylight cnndnc

[@SpectraSkittle]

Imagine a world where the effects of ana nade were completely invisible to you. Blizzard has the worse UX team I've seen in 20 years.

[@Real_MisterSir]

Good fundamentals, definitely above general plat -but still some mishaps here and there that actually end up losing you round-winning team fights. First example is at 9:42 where the enemy rolls out on Ball to stall. Here it's very crucial that you do NOT give up on your own win condition, which is to maintain a hard offensive presence to ensure that the people who can actually turn the fight, are not allowed to just easily walk out of spawn. The Ball existing on cart does nothing for their win condition except extend the timer a little -and crucially, you do not do much to prevent the ball from stalling either. That Ball is not going to kill anyone on your team who are pushing kart, not on his own. So your job is to simply make sure the Ball is on his own, and you do this by hard pocketing your Bastion who is currently presenting the rest of the enemy team with a wall of damage. Make sure Bastion doesn't die. Make sure his bullets do as much damage as possible. Make sure the enemy are not allowed to get out and assist their ball or overrun the Bastion. Don't throw away the major offensive advantage you have, just because a Ball is contesting point alone. You leaving Bastion allows the Bap to come out with lamp and window and turn the fight -and you did this just to help your Reaper and Ana deal with a Ball.. Reaper and Ana. Arguably the two heroes in the game best suited to deal with Ball. Where your utility is needed, needs to be not even a thought, it should be a backbone of your playstyle that you only deviate from if a greater enemy win-con becomes apparent unexpectedly. You end up winning the fight, but this was a 90% win, that suddenly got turned into a 50/50 for absolutely no reason. If you want to climb, you need to be the carry hero in the sense that you do your job better than everyone else are doing theirs. You need to be the wall that does not allow the enemy to recontest in an otherwise disadvantageous fight for them. Be the opportunity denier. That's the mindset you need, which you have in your fundamentals, but you need to press it further. In general, another tip is to not let your offensive heroes get baited into thinking they have a Mercy pocket, if you're just gonna hop over to someone else after a few seconds. Commit to the pockets when there's significant ground to be made, and let your other support keep the general team up in the meantime. Your main utility is allowing a high-pressure ally to get away with murder for free, to always give then the advantage in duels, to always ensure their presence has to be respected so much that the enemy team can't even be allowed to straight-line their engage to the rest of your team without being punished the whole way there. Your kit at its core is pressure, amplified. And pressure also to a high degree comes down to consistency over time. Allowing a Reaper to take mad off angles and basically never be at risk of losing a duel because he is strong and the Mercy behind him adds a multiplier to this effect, let him run rampant any chance he gets. Same with the Doom if Doom is the one who's doing most of the pressure -like in the very beginning where the Genji is miles behind the Doom and basically just traversing the map, you need to be in between the Genji and the Doom so you can assist Doom in his offense, and use Genji as an escape tool. Don't be behind the person who is behind the person who is applying pressure. Ever. Mercy uniquely has the mobility to be where pressure is being applied most.

[@tevildech5497]

Thank you for that deep analysis! I compared your feedback with the gameplay and soaked it all up. I really appreciate the effort you put into explaining this for me ♡ I will do my best to implement these things into my gameplay 🫡

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@tevildech5497 I'm happy you found it useful! Your foundation for playing Mercy is really good, both from mechanics and understanding the game in general and your role in the team. I'm sure if you just practice one element at a time you'll shoot up in rank :) glhf and may you receive waffles in the near future :>

[@alovelypenguin_]

This was the most in depth but not mean comment. So wholesome! ty for the advice; I'm not the person but I love playing mercy (not a big fps person) 😊

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@alovelypenguin_ Thank you! Only good vibes here :> glad you found the advice useful!

[@RuleInsanity]

They were awesome! The Doomfist can take a long walk off a short pier with their terrible take and should have switched at several points, unlike the Mercy

[@timelordtori]

There were some pretty sick mercy parkour moves here. Awesome movement and value for “learning mercy”

[@Waffl3B1T]

ALRIGHT SO!!! Today’s video, we’re watching a plat 4 supprt……

[@SuperVincent0000]

Support on PC. So, i want to learn Mercy, I know, sounds weird "learning mercy" is an odd concept to many people.

[@juveintheusa6261]

Emongg I like videos like this where they’re actually good at the game, I much prefer it to so many bronze/silver spectating videos.

[@aaron-qy2me]

Comparing my teens to my thirties, my aim was exponentially better back then. Precision movement with my thumbs on a controller has become significantly harder with age. I could see how PC players may not notice as much. Since they use more than just their thumbs there's more ways to compensate.

[@HeyItsAmandaJ]

I'm a Mercy main and boy do I get flamed by tanks :(, the positioning is great btw!

[@AngrySecs]

Mercy doesn't provide a lot of healing is the problem, especially with the dps passive. And if you don't have good DPS to take advantage of her damage boost (which in metal ranks you probably wont) mercy just isn't a good pick.

[@HeyItsAmandaJ]

@@AngrySecs I have to agree, Mercy just isn't a good pick right now, I've been trying new supports and feel like they bring so much value to each match. Thank you for the info!

[@brendaloera7157]

I’m a mercy main too. My highest rank is diamond 1, now I’m plat with the new rank system. I got there just only playing mercy(sometimes switch kiri to tp during overtime). And let me tell you the amount of times I’ve been told to switch! But it’s just a game and I wanna have fun being a little bee 🐝 so just ignore those tanks. Or do what I do and when they swap to Ana or something I’m like who’s Ana? Never heard of that character? Shuts them right up lol!

[@ObsidianQuasar]

“MERCY NEEDS TO SWAP!” *proceeds to also not swap themselves*

[@djinscar2304]

I mean they won, while the enemy tank kept swapping and still lost. It's why in reality of ow2,tank swaps dont matter, while if this person went ana, bap, kiriko, moira, lucio, Illari, etc they would've won much easier, because those dps were not making use of that damage boost enough to make mercy valuable.

[@Maidandthepocketwatchofblood]

I love watching their movement. Holy...you can really tell they have the gamesense and general knowhow.

[@tevildech5497]

Thank you ❤ I love Mercy Parkour games. I feel like that helped a little cnfnfmf i can reccommend those

[@Maidandthepocketwatchofblood]

@@tevildech5497 Oh I am not a Mercy player but you might convince me to practice her lol. And you're quite welcome. Good luck getting back to Top 500.

[@AngelxMp3]

as someone who’s relatively new to overwatch, the prock and spire icon needs to be added to brig because at first i had NO IDEA she had other heals than the repair kits

[@h3artromanc3]

Honestly in my opinion playing a lot of mercy she needs to stop super jumping all the time, her super jumping all the time will make her easier to hit but over all her movement is pretty good!! And her not healing some of her teammates is good too so their other support can get their ult fast too!!

[@trvpnest]

i second this!! she superjumps way too often - in metal ranks she can get away with it but in high elo she'll get published for it. superjump should only be done when absolutely necessary cus it leaves you defeneless in the air for 2.5s

[@flawlessorca75]

The only thing I would add to this is- being a mercy lover, I try to pick one person I want to mainly support, a secondary person (usually the other supp) who I will constantly be checking and then finding value in between. If that makes any sense at all haha. Before, I was just trying to support everyone - like this mercy, and while thats sometimes okay, for my mind if I have a focus- then find value elsewhere, it helped me climb. The opposite end of that is only supporting one person - which is never helpful.

[@akkiko]

26:17 the Doom killed himself here. The minute he put himself out of Ana's LOS there was no coming back from that without a Q. So many times in a Mercy/Ana support combo I watch the tank put themselves in a situation where they losethe bulk of their healing support and eat dirt. The fact Ana even tried to nade him once he went behind the wall too lol

[@shioramenrabbit]

This player is already, at minimum, a masters mercy, I think if they wanted to be higher they could. Sure, you could've swapped off, and sometimes that's all you can do on Mercy if you truly are getting no value because of your own team comp, but you had lots of reasons to stay Mercy and were doing well on her. Also, I'm petty asf so the first time that someone asks me to swap in a toxic manner is the last time in a round I even remotely consider swapping but uh, my mindset is the reason I am stuck in Diamond so don't listen to me necessarily.

[@tevildech5497]

Petty squad here! Yea before the Doom went to bully me I even CONSIDERED swapping. But then I was like. >:( Now I wont do it anymore grrr. Also thank you for the compliment 🥹 I play A LOT of Mercy parkour when I'm bored fnfncfnfn

[@BrazenBull91]

Being your own harshest critic is an awful way to learn. You do not possess the experience to coach yourself. It can only take you so far. Keep up the good fight my guy! 🤟🏼

[@sethescope]

I think what "being your own worst critic" means is always expecting yourself to be better than you were before, never settling for good enough. it doesn't mean having all the answers or always knowing exactly what you did wrong or should have done; it just means always looking for ways to improve. sometimes friends will say things like "no, you did fine!" and "nah, there was nothing you could have done to change the outcome" and stuff like that, but if you're your own worst critic, you don't say things like that to yourself. note: this doesn't mean you are mean to yourself! being mean to yourself is counterproductive. knowing that you're always capable of more and capable of better, however, is a productive way of approaching things.

[@BrazenBull91]

@sethescope yeah, I get all that. But the guy said himself, "It's the best way to learn." All I'm saying is, it's not the best. It will only take you so far. I really liked the last paragraph of your reply though man 🤟🏼

[@tevildech5497]

Hey its me! The mercy! I am indeed too harsh on myself sometimes. I hardly ever blame a death on my teammate, usually I just flame myself for them or brainstorm what I could have done better, tho yea. I am working on it because it really sucks the life out of me sometimes

[@BrazenBull91]

@tevildech5497 it also sucks the fun out of the game, and makes you tilt, chill 🤟🏼 (and gg btw)

[@S4KUR4K155]

with the dps passive, why not do it like ana nade and have a colour that the bar changes to like red or something

[@mfraye12]

Doomfist playing into mauga complains the mercy isn't swapping. That's the plat overwatchest that plat overwatch has ever been.

[@jennie7]

As a mercy main, people who yell the most for heals are usually the worst players in the game. If you’re a mercy, give yourself grace… you’re probably not doing as bad as some people say

[@laovers]

i haven’t watched the video all the way, and it’s not like i’m any better at mercy (masters peak on console) i feel like some of their super jumps are not needed and are just putting them in even more danger. its ok to play cover and not super jump all the time. they have good escapes though

[@BitBox_US]

EMONGG I wanna see some more scrims!!

[@RawrMeowmix23]

My husband can't play Mercy and specifically asks me for tips. Some people just can't play her. It's normal!

[@jox97]

As a mercy main, 18:26 this rez was so unnecessary.. u dont have to get every rez as mercy, if its risky and not worth dying for it then don’t go for it.

[@MM-ux7kp]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn that was some good shyt

[@Bearwoods02]

Amazing plays, as a ps5 player I want to get to this stage of good 😅

[@Switch_X_Back3884]

Age has nothing to do with it. Well maybe some. But I seen a reaction time video with pro players bs average players reaction time. The Pros on average was quicker. But average players not thay far off. And in some 1v1s the Pro players reaction time was slower. So whats the difference? "Anticipation" they know how each Hero moves. And predicts where that Hero will go. Like Lucio for example. When he jumps in like a Mc Donald's arch. So don't shoot where he's at. But where he's gonna land. Kinda like doing pharah rockets. If someone is rumming forward while your in the air. You need to fire the rocket in front of them a little ways so by the time your rocket gets the there. The Hero they was shooting at runs right into it. They meet. That's the whole concept. Shoot where they are going. Not where they at. I even believe one of 76s voice lines even says that. Shoot where they are nothing not where they been.

[@Switch_X_Back3884]

And EVERYONE blames Support. I know this a Support player. Every game I lose. It's always a Support "Diff." Lol

[@ghutchison2464]

W video

[@bluefaygox23]

7:35 This is prime example of overextending. They didn’t have to push into the next choke but they did anyways. I love getting overly cocky and falling over because of it

[@Danishidiot3]

Mercy is fun

[@JOEBR0NI]

"getting older" could mean getting into his 40's not his late 20's-30's. Gen X gamers are a plenty out there man. Yes, his reaction times would absolutely slow down past mid-late 30's. 25 is usually the drop off area iirc.

[@ihopeyouredoingokay]

turning 25 this year im cooked

[@Batlas]

Becoming a boomer and losing my ability to aim in fpss hurt my soul... lol

[@Switch_X_Back3884]

Oh can someone tell me why us Moria Players playing as a "DPS" seems cringe by most? I seen a team that had a "DPS Moira" and they won. And told this teammate. Moira L. Like why? Damage is how you when. And btw, I play like this every game where I have more damage than heals. I beat a healing Moira everytime. I keep my teammates alive when needed and help damage and eliminate the enemy at the Sametime.

[@sethescope]

sticking too much to one play style is a problem because you're not adapting to your team's needs. now, don't get me wrong, if the enemies are dead or you're adequately distracting them so your team isn't being focused hard enough for your team to lose the fight, then not healing much can be the right move. if you are EFFECTIVELY relieving pressure on your front line by distracting enemy supports so your team can roll the enemy tank and dps, then that's a valuable contribution and it's more valuable than just sitting behind your tank and hoping your team does something. BUT if you're off in the enemy backline or something when your other support is a zen and your tank is falling over on cool down so your team is constantly losing fights and not able to play aggressively at all, that's when you're the problem. the biggest mistake I see support players make is being inflexible and doing only one thing because that's what they want to do or that's what they think they're supposed to do. as Moira, you need to know when your team needs healing more than your team needs the additional pressure. you need to play to help your team win the fight, not play selfishly. if you don't want to support your team by contributing value that helps them win the fight, go queue for dps.

[@akayy000]

EMONG U DYED UR HAIR?

[@CalicoCrow]

I saw a comment on another video saying that whenever he gets a haircut, he usually gets his hair dyed again as well!

[@clonetrooper2224]

Genuine question for Mercy players/mains out there, what about Mercy is fun or makes you want to main her? (idk how else to word it) Objectively speaking from a player who used to play all roles up to Diamond 3 and never touched mercy I never saw the appeal to enabling a teammate 99% of the game and not actively engaging in a fight besides flying in the air or an occasional res

[@brittsNAY]

For the same reason some people like MOBA games and some people hate them. And that goes for any style of gameplay. People like different things. Personally, I find playing Widow boring as hell compared to Mercy. Clicking heads with little movement required is so much less exciting than moving around and constantly being in the action. I may not be shooting, but I’m having to keep track of everything that is happening while trying to stay alive and keep my team alive. My Mercy games are almost always 10x more sweaty than my dps games.

[@DokuDoki]

I like the idea of a character who gets value without firing a single shot and outsmarts/outmaneuvers anyone tryhard pursuing them In Mass Effect 2 and 3 I always played the Adept class because you didn't ever have to use your gun if you managed your psionics well lol

[@Funay31]

"A former Top 500 wants to learn mercy" first 10 seconds Plat 4 Support

[@LuCyOW]

Yea and? That is not a contradiction. They used to be high elo in OW1 and are struggling now in OW2, which is why they are asking for coaching. Explain the joke pls.

[@maiyukitty6309]

what about it

[@tevildech5497]

I mean. I said I was Top 500 BACK THEN. Which sort of just explains that doesnt it? 😅 I even mentioned I had a hard time adjusting to OW2 And played Ana back then

[@Fanboy-hf1iu]

ngl but this VOD is pretty boring when you can't even find anything to criticize

[@tevildech5497]

No it actually helped me a lot. In multiple areas I was being way too agressive. And he did point that out when I rezzed wherer bastion was just being killed. It wasnt critique but it was advice which is usually super useful :3

[@Fanboy-hf1iu]

@@tevildech5497 Happy that it helped you. I just didn't found the commentary to be as fun or engaging to watch as his previous ones

[@Rurumeto]

Emongg, you CAN see if people have the DPS passive on them.

[@jackkovacs1756]

how

[@fkatwigswife]

from a first person perspective. you can't tell from an outside perspective

[@redpaw2153]

I can't stress this enough, I hope they never make the dps passive visible by healers (like you want it to be). That'd cause such an annoying meta. On top of that, the phycology of someone staring at the spot the debuff is instead of Watchung the game... just too many downsides for such a short debuff. On top of that it wouldn't even help the top 500... are you going to tell me you don't know if a tank or a dps is shooting the person you're healing. If it's a chaotic moment and you can't tell are you saying you'll be glancing over to see if someone has a debuff... come on

[@jackief03]

Huh??? Annoying meta?

[@redpaw2153]

@jackief03 well, imagine hearing "I didn't heal you because you had the debuff"

[@jackief03]

@@redpaw2153 that is not how it would work players need to know who has the debuff so they know who to prioritize (ex when someone is purple) it can be small but still noticeable 😭

[@redpaw2153]

@jackief03 and what I'm saying is it would cause way more harm than good. All I can see it doing is it would tell supports who not to waste heals on. You also have these people that pad stats, and they wouldn't focus on someone who has the debuff to get bigger numbers. Then my argument for the high end players, is they should know the difference from any tank shooting someone and a dps, so the debuff icon shouldn't help them

[@redpaw2153]

@jackief03 also the argument of knowing who to prioritize is the meta I'm talking about, if anyone ever said "I didn't heal u and let you die because you had the debuff" OOOR "I healed the other guy and didn't heal you because they had the debuff" I'd lose my mind... heal both, and don't be looking for a debuff, that's one more thing to draw people's attention away from the game

[@thoneycomb5796]

8:30 "Recognizing moira is out of position" she's... not though, she's in position, she JUST fell back INTO position, and the mercy died in the process. Emong you're not allowed to watch mercy vods anymore this was Awful 💀 shes just tapping control after every shift on cooldown after that too. How was this person t500??

[@MilkysRevenge]

Can i see your mercy gameplay since you're an expert on mercy :/

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

They were top 500 as Ana. It shows too. Way too kill happy as Mercy. Kept putting them in bad position almost everytime they drew the pistol. Also needs to work on that heal and damage boost a bit more. A few deaths at the beginning could have been prevented had she continued to heal instead

[@mannyj5862]

Amazing

[@tevildech5497]

​@Antonio-ys5zd honestly. I think youre right (i was the mercy btw) I felt like the "bigger" damage would be healed by my co-support as I used to basically have that job. Sometimes I get too carried away with trying to be active and get those visible numbers up. Plus yea. i feel like I didnt respect the enemies as much as I should! Thank you for the feedback :3

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

@@tevildech5497 the part I was specifically referring to I believe your other support was either dead or just cut off from LOS. Otherwise you did a good job mostly. Could have easily lost though had that Bastion in the end turned around so gotta be careful. Mistakes like those cost games more often than not

[@tiffanyv9446]

Im a silver support and its so exciting watching some *chefs kiss* mercy movement. My goal is to reach Gold this season. I got this! 🫡

[@sethescope]

I believe in you! just keep focusing on the basics and always ask yourself what you can do next time to help your team be more successful and you'll get there eventually. comp is a grind! it will take time but I know you can do it.

[@tevildech5497]

Thank you! I believe in you >:) you 100% got this