Formula Short-Track Racing - Lime Rock F5000 - Grand Prix Legends

[@tennisday8845]

Thanks Jake! That was informative and fun! Wish I could sim race like you! I appreciate the plug, too! -Brent (Argyle1968)

[@snowblindburd]

I can't remember if I've mentioned it before but I absolutely love how you edit the replay footage into the race so smoothly.

[@rogerc1596]

Dang GPL is still going strong.. I can really appreciate these, living in NZ, we still get to see F5000s driven in anger, whilst the tracks have changed a bit from the fast flowing old school tracks,they're still hugely impressive to see, hear and feel as they thunder around a race track.

[@ZuhlJin]

Dude thanks for mentioning this. That's really interesting and cool racing. Great stuff to watch this afternoon.

[@joshjackburns]

Do they / did they ever race at Highlands ? Because even though I’m not a Cromwell local, it would still be cool to see them there because of the Layout

[@rogerc1596]

@@joshjackburns I dunno I can't comment on the mainland tracks,I'm local to Manfeild and was closer to Pukekohe/Hampton Downs pre 2020. Caught them at Hampton downs a few times,the last time I went they opened up the long back stretch wgich was really good cause they're hitting a good clip by the time they reach the braking zone. Sorely missing motorsport currently with no speedway or race meets.

[@joshjackburns]

@@rogerc1596 yeah, I live in Dunedin so we still have speedway events but that’s it at the moment

[@rogerc1596]

@@joshjackburns I tell ya,my missus and I would love to get to the speedway again. Missing our usual Saturday date nights.

[@BillyStrangeAutoModels]

I definitely go in waves of what I like playing/driving.

[@TheMDJ2000]

Formula 5000 has recently been revived in Australia, called S5000.

[@C.I...]

I love the head movement from the outside (it was so amazing watching replays with it for the first time, seeing the drivers transformed from wooden props glued to the cars into real humans), but I think adding more movement to the internal camera makes it a bit overdone (especially the spring on the end of a spring type effect) - personally the original movement looks perfect to me, maybe the extra front-back movement is good though.

[@WynnofThule]

Jake's voice is like jazz for your soul 🎷🐛

[@Someguy1785]

James Garner also co-owned (or sponsored) the American International Racing Corvette team in 1968. They qualified 1-2 in the GT class at Daytona, but didn't finish. They were prepared for Sebring, but a conflict in management resulted in the team running Lola T70 coupes for the rest of the season. I did a little research and couldn't figure out why.

[@edwardburek1717]

The mind still boggles that mods for Grand Prix Legends are still keeping this sim fresh. Head Movement gives a certain dynamicism (if that's a word) to the event. The liveries of the various cars were worth having a look at - did anyone else notice that some cars had Firestone decals yet were running on Goodyear tyres, and vice versa?

[@jamesbehra2690]

Very well done and narrated as always.

[@roberthanson579]

Awesome! I watched Jerry Hanson (orange 44) (no relation) and Tuck Thomas (yellow 88) running F5000 and SCCA FA at Brainerd and Elkhart Lake when I was kid. Thanks for this vid, man. It feels kinda personal. Also, remember that you can't run Lime Rock on Sunday (local ordinance... sorry). 😁

[@DannysDiecastDisasters]

Great stuff mate, I love driving the F5000s, I did a brief history recently on my other channel with the F5000 pack fior AC. They still race them in town here.

[@Nickyy64]

Southpaw’s video was super interesting. What a classic circuit. What could’ve been.

[@johnhrichak3451]

1968, first roadrace, f5000, blown away! Be accurate!

[@alphasixty1316]

"Kink with No Name" is the name of my Ennio Morricone tribute band. Whaaaa,,,, Wha wha. Finishing music was apropos.

[@IndianaJoe3]

I've always wondered what an F1 (or similar) race at Lime Rock would be like. Thanks for the show!

[@whatisabercowich]

Grand Prix Legends content is always appreciated! You got me into GPL nine years ago (time flies) and I have never looked back. Great to see your channel kick off in popularity lately. :)

[@b0nel_]

Classic Motorsport Hub moment

[@ThePanzafahra]

If only we had timed our series a little better lmao

[@kevingrignon5341]

You deserve more recognition for these videos. You do a very good job explaining everything and showing everything that’s happening. I never feel lost when watching your videos and I really enjoy your content. Keep it up, man!

[@PunishedV]

The camera mod is pretty cool. You can really feel your stomach lifting at the top of the crests.

[@MrLahey-er9sz]

absolutely gorgeus

[@froggothedoggo5997]

F5000 was also raced in NZ/ Australia

[@ZIGAG1999]

i finally was able to install GPL off of a tutorial i saw the only issue was the tutorial didn't show how to get the mods and tracks for GPL so i currently have no content.

[@mtbben11]

That looked like a lot of fun. I don't have the 69 Mod yet but I think I need to get it. Love the addition of the occasional external shots.

[@pjludda4323]

Mmmmmm...The Sounds of these cars...Like a single-seater Can Am...Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

[@robes4442]

Jake, could you please make a video where you drive a few hot laps around the Nürburgring Südschleife (‘67 version) in Asetto Corsa in a 1960s Porsche 911 or a F2 car? Would love to see some proper laps around that track.

[@GPLaps]

Hey Rob, great suggestion. I did do a video a little while back where i raced some formula junior cars there, maybe ill do some others soon! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHSmnp-OnLlof6c

[@robes4442]

@@GPLaps Yes, I saw your Formula Junior video, but that uses a different version of the Südschleife for Asetto Corsa, which is less accurate in terms of the track layout than the ‘67 version (the one that also comes as part of the ‘Gesamtstrecke’ combined circuit). I’d love to see some proper hot lapping around the ‘67 version, which is definitely the closest to the real thing.

[@VonBlade]

I can never catch slides with head movement. I've a perfect (nearly) sense of the back end when my head is locked forwards, but with movement I've no idea where the car is.

[@GPLaps]

I have the same problem if i use the glance settings. For the movement I have it set to 40% Intensity, and then Glance is 10% with speed at 25%. Overall I find the geforce simulation actually helps, the glance by default spoils it though.

[@stefankoopmans2200]

Yeah reminds me of the days I played LFS, I also needed a locked view (also with an extremely high fov, probably because I was Quake minded, played that with fov 120+ in the 90's). Years have passed and now I can't stand locked view, it's boring, I need the head-movement to tell me what the car is doing... weird right? (I use iRacing's default settings and RealHeadMotion for Assetto Corsa, AND correctly measured FOV on tripples). Btw I won't ever use any glance settings, that's just gives a very awkward feeling. It's better to use something like TrackIR on a single screen because you are in direct control of your viewing angle it won't feel so disconnected.

[@mikemorgan8895]

Hey Jake, you ever run Project Cars2? I just watched a great video of the old Indy cars on pc2. Wondering if there are leagues that run them?

[@canadiankrispybacon]

New home page, the tarmac background blends in with the text, making it hard to see..just thought I would let you know.

[@GPLaps]

hi, what do you mean homepage?

[@scottl.1568]

Paul Newman's home track....

[@TatsukiHashida]

2002… I was one year old

[@daviemanuel093]

Can you do a tutorial how install the 1967 mod or the other mods?

[@MrWalshy73]

Can you put a link to where all the mods are and where I can get the base game which works with windows 10

[@ReasoningOwl]

Where does one download mods for GPL? And how are mods installed?

[@froggothedoggo5997]

You should try the Assetto corsa f5000 mod by Bazza

[@Villoresi]

Looks like a good time. How closely related are these to the Thundercars? And thinking about tracks more in your neck of the woods, have you been to Palmer Motorsports Park? Thinking of this video and the Thundercars, it was either ErikGPL or GrandPrixYannick who took those beasts around the Lime Rock Mountain Circuit.

[@nate567987]

witch thundercar?

[@Villoresi]

This is the video in question: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXK0cpifnZ50e6c

[@nate567987]

@@Villoresi the stuff in that mod is made up as like a 70's CART

[@Villoresi]

@@nate567987 Those sound like V8s though, not Offenhauser 4-bangers. Also, there's no indication of turbos. Doing a whole series of image searches, the closest visually still seems to be about a 1970, low-wing, F5000 car. It looks like the Indy Cars took till around 1972 to pretty uniformly embrace wings, and by then, the car shapes were generally more refined than what's in that video.

[@nate567987]

@@Villoresi that was from the read me that came with the thunder cars mod

[@touyube2470]

If you're so keen on gp legends currently maybe some more 1966 season? It's not like its been almost a year since you started and more than a month since the last one or anything crazy like that.

[@GPLaps]

Next one up is the Targa Florio and its taking me a while to sort out the mods/performance.

[@touyube2470]

@@GPLaps oh wow! I had no idea you were planning on incorporating it into the 66 series will that be a world sportscar championship race?

[@nate567987]

@@touyube2470 it was round 4 of that year so yea

[@Gringle_]

he'll yeah.......lime rock babey..........

[@hayeslewis]

If they're F5000 cars why do they have DFVs, sound like DFVs, and rev over 10K?

[@happyloaf]

I think gpl made a, huge mistake by focusing on the 67 cars. If they had the same tracks but used the 65 cars a default amd had the 67 as an expansion more people might have been able to get into it or at least keep the cars on tracks.

[@Villoresi]

It's a simple case of the '67 cars being considered more iconic, and therefore a better vehicle, marketing-wise, to sell the game to begin with. Also given what else was available back then, I think even the '65 cars would have been a handful given what people were sued to in sims at the time.

[@happyloaf]

@@Villoresi I get they are more iconic but they are so hard to drive that many people back in the day with a joystick never stood a chance. Hell even with a modern Logitech wheel and hundreds of hours in sims, I am barely able to keep them on track let alone race past the mid field with the ai. The learning cliff is so steep that most people who picked the game up out of curiosity will stick with it

[@Villoresi]

@@happyloaf Hence, my second sentence, which was to say, I'm not sure that even the '65 cars, back then, would have been "easy enough" to not still have the same problem to almost the same extent. Let's face it, that was kind of the age of, "If it's harder to drive, that means it must be 'more realistic' to how it actually was." One wonders, if they'd started with the '65 cars, would they have simply made them as hard to drive as the '67 cars are now?

[@happyloaf]

@@Villoresi I don't know? For me it is the 65 mod seems to be the sweet spot of drivable and race able without worrying about spinning every turn.

[@TheGreatIndoors1979]

First! Grand Prix Legends!