Fortitude Training | Shoulder workout With Dr. Scott Stevenson

[@hunterzolomon5159]

Followed fortitude training for the last 8 months. Results in size and strength have been phenomenal. Plus injury free :)

[@mountaindog1]

Thats a great combination!

[@GangstaBunniez]

Dr. Scott Stevenson and John Meadows are two insanely driven and knowledgeable guys. FT was definitely worth the read, and the access to the forums is an invaluable asset. Can't wait to start FT in 2 weeks!!!

[@RichardsWorld]

Mountain Dog was a peaceful beast. The Dr himself puts out a lot of good info.

[@priddyfit6331]

Really like it when you two workout together. So much knowledge.

[@mountaindog1]

thank you!

[@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife]

Coming back here to say thanks to both of you guys! Scott is an awesome dude and John’s wisdom will live on. The muscle rounds really help extend my sets at the end when I can’t add more weight as a natural. It’s a fantastic method!

[@whithartman1886]

The guest's you've had on your channel lately have been top notch! Learning so many different approaches to training from you and your guest's.

[@timfreckman5227]

I'm 58, so I am really getting stoked watching some Seniors tearing it up! Great video!

[@mountaindog1]

thank you!

[@mazaca10]

best bodybuilding youtuber , eveeeer

[@cameronjames3028]

I hope you realise how good the content you put out is johnny boy. You be spitting straight fire at as. Full credit to you my brother you deserve every good thing that comes your way

[@mountaindog1]

man I am trying...I hope people like it and find it valuable

[@mattb2955]

I just discoved dr. Scott about two months ago when i stumbled upon his muscle minds podcast. He's become one of my favorite minds in the sport. Besides his mind, his shoulders are out of this world!

[@thomasdietz579]

Dr. Scott Stevenson seems like a really great person down to earth

[@mountaindog1]

he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@scottwstevenson]

THANKS, Man!!!

[@thomasdietz579]

I am off from training from training because of some problem with my right shoulder. I had great size from pretty stable training (12-14 years) but know after the long lay off and the bad doctors not giving a shit (because its bodybuilding and its silly) my shoulder is still shit to say it straight. I am so limited in what moves I can do in the gym and I also have lost the drive from all the negative things the last two years off. I had a strong mind before, but i somehow lost it when I went through failure after failure in the gym. Could your stile of training/frequense do me good when I am so limited. I have been reading your site but I npt sure that I understand how a fortitude program is set up if it for like three day a week and those muscle rounds seems impossible because of my shoulder problem. Is ther any way to work around that ? Best og luck to you

[@scottwstevenson]

Thomas, I'd find an orthopadist / surgeon who specializes in athletes and see what can be done with your shoulder. I can't really say how your shoulder would do with FT per se (I don't know what's wrong with it), but one of the basic tenets is to NOT perform exercises that are painful or injurious to the joint... Just doing that for many will help with joint health, but those are most often cases of folks with overuse issues.

[@davidmyers8195]

RIP John you are missed but never forgotten!!!

[@joeexotic1207]

Dr. Scott Stevenson at the barber : Just fuck me up, fam

[@Cre8Thought41]

Good to see some great variations to work out routines to keep the mind engaged in building knowledge, muscle and having fun at least to a point. Some of those sets looked brutal.

[@raffaelecorrente1123]

I'm very close to Scott's ideas since I read bryan haycock's articles and decided to use some of his ideas. I started to train every muscle group 4-5 times weekly, about 25 sets/weeky/muscle. My problem is that I'm using full body workouts and the last muscles I train do not get a great workout. Looking on the web I see the fortitude training and I really loved the idea to have mixed days (heavy upper - pumping lower and vice versa). To be honest, I thought about this strategy but didn't have the balls to try. Now that I know that a very smart guy like Scott suggest this approach, I'll give it a shot. PS buy his book, it is great!

[@paulmurphy5510]

You’ve got to earn it!! ❤️ Dr. Scott

[@Shane-fe3fc]

Not only am I digging the video, the music is good too.

[@edwardfortae2350]

Ive used rest pause in thd past but never that long. Ill try this tonight. I like rest pause for intensity.

[@JoeyAgzBDA]

John, Scott, and JP in one workout. it’s 2018... why hasn’t this happened yet???

[@JoeyAgzBDA]

its me hmm seems like it’s working for them,...

[@stevena9231]

Joe Aglio for jp sure yeah but he doesnt have to be so close minded , and for matt ive never seen someone hold so much water in my life he looks like Pillsbury doughboy

[@JoeyAgzBDA]

its me I think you need to check out JPs forum if you think he’s closed minded. he has principles and techniques that he believes are optimal for sure- as we all do in one manner or another- but in those forums he repeatedly preaches about doing what works for you. As for Matt, it matters what happens on show day. I think it’s fair to say the improvements WILL be there. Take that to the bank.

[@stevena9231]

Joe Aglio fair enough

[@raffaelecorrente1123]

who is JP?

[@colaturkalures]

Dr. Stevenson looks like he slays.

[@scottwstevenson]

Favorite comment so far!!! LOLOL ;)

[@microtonalmilio5233]

I remember training in Tucson, Az at Gold's Gym on Speedway and watching Scott and David Henry IFBB lift super crazy numbers. That inspired me so much to be in the same room as those two. This was in 2007-2011

[@dcw.photos]

Literally just picked up Scott’s fortitude book and this appeared on my home screen. 👀

[@leoncooney400]

So jealous, i can't go heavy on my shoulders because of issues & a upcoming surgery.. but wow great tips.. keep up the good work!

[@redskool8498]

thanks guys have a good day ... †

[@mountaindog1]

you too!

[@sergiofortuna4054]

Man, will love to train with this two! Old school, with an arsenal of techniques. Simple badass!!!

[@mountaindog1]

thank you!

[@RichardRatner.1972]

Awesome, love the equipment & knowledge gain! Regards Richard U.K

[@dereksmallsuk]

Well worth watching

[@mountaindog1]

thank you!

[@BrianPellerin]

Found this video after listening to Scott talk on BPak’s podcast

[@karlodonato]

Def8nitely gonna give this a try on my next training day. Im thinking i can do this technique for leg extensions and leg presses.

[@Nekrocold]

Looks like rest pause on the seated lateral machine.Nasty burn when you do as many as you can,then take a small break,do a few more etc and I really like controlled slow negatives.

[@mountaindog1]

its fun!

[@Nekrocold]

I've noticed the caps to my delts have gotten rounder I think because of doing the slow,controlled negatives even when the weight is heavy and that machine is perfect for that.

[@scottwstevenson]

That's a great machine! :)

[@joshua_kuluris]

Liked before even watched but still will watch cuz love ❤️ both

[@peterdisgusting]

Bloody hard workout, pain is gain. You have given me great tips

[@MrDeanmfitz]

Mushroom tip

[@jarvishaney8390]

That was awesome workout

[@mountaindog1]

Thank you Jarvis!

[@muhammahashfaq1013]

great teachnics

[@sfield541]

Muscle Rounds!!

[@karlt2477]

Hell yeah! I've been doing Fortitude Training for 3 months starting my third blast. Loving and (Hating) every second of it! Intensity at it's best. #Scottstevenson and #mountaindog1 BEAST MODE! Very excited today as I've ordered my first tub of Recovery Factor X. Doing my bit to support the Granite Supplement Team.

[@mountaindog1]

awesome, thank you from both Scott and I!

[@karlt2477]

I've just posted my thoughts on Recovery Factor X on FB, well done Sirs - you've delivered. It's an incredible product.

[@ThinkBIGBodybuildingLive]

Nice! great video!

[@saif050]

i like it.. thanks

[@stuappleby6571]

Meadows looking huge!!

[@mountaindog1]

for a senior citizen!

[@Omar_87789]

Occhio a non fargli provare la metodologia Fortiture training che il signor Scott Stevenson ti chiede un altro risarcimento! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Adrian.56]

Good evening John, I noticed you were in San Diego and I would love the opportunity to workout with you.

[@markmitchell7812]

Dr. Scott looks like a ninja turtle when doing the reverse flies..lol. That back.

[@mountaindog1]

I'll start calling him Donatello and see if he responds:)

[@JeeYaoKuneDo]

Scott and John, if you see this post, I'm very curious about your thoughts on rest-pause sets as a staple in a program. Scott - In DC, it's a cornerstone, but why are there no traditional RP sets in FT training (as far as I understand it)? Is it because RP sets (3 failure points) done consistently is too taxing on the CNS? And that's the reason you do Muscle Rounds instead? DC followers get really strong doing RP sets, but are Muscle Rounds (with 1 failure point instead of 3 in a DC set) a better option for longevity and just as viable a cornerstone for progressive overload and hypertrophy? Wondering if one could successfully do a DC upper/lower split using MRs and Loading sets instead of RP sets. John - I know you included RP sets and cycled them with other intensity techniques in some of your older programs. But why do you use RP so sparingly? (Not talking about rest-pause resetting the weight, like your Smith Rows) Thanks in advance, mad muscle scientists!

[@scottwstevenson]

YEs- the MR in FT was conceived to shift the stress to the muscle vs. CNS and other systems (endocrine, immune) that are taxed as the CNS is pushed too hard.

[@drnaderafshari8226]

So at the end, what do you think about this style of training John? Your opinion is more valid than anyone else for me.

[@mountaindog1]

Well I like the cluster sets/muscle rounds because you get more high quality reps then you would get doing a traditional set. For example lets say you did a weight you could barely get 8 for. Now what if you did, 6, then rested and 6 2 more times. You will get more volume out of it. So I think it is a great way to add quality volume.

[@navoyvincentfitness]

Im not sure if it was mentioned in video, but how many rounds ? For example the machine laterals, after i do the 6, do I do another round? Or call it a day and move on to the next exercise?

[@Drummersteveable]

Navoy Vincent 6 rounds. Reps on last round determines weight for next session

[@scottwstevenson]

After the 6th set of the MR, the muscle round is over. :) Only 1 MR for given exercise, but, depending on the volume Tier you use (a function of how well you recover), you might do several MRs for a given muscle group (but different exercises for each MR). :)

[@luisraulrecinos5393]

Meadows condition look like dorian yates is the best... Saludos desde honduras one more subscrip

[@mountaindog1]

I love Honduras!

[@RomuloJogaib]

But when to implement this kind of training 4x6 10" rest in between sets. When?

[@mountaindog1]

message Scott and he can give you accurate parameters

[@scottwstevenson]

Fortitude Training is four day / week system. On the last two days of the week you'd employ Muscle Rounds. (Roughly ⅓ of your training is MR-based)

[@tatyanacanales569]

Is it doing too much to work quads in the late morning and work glutes/hams at Night on same day?

[@mountaindog1]

Nope! go for it!

[@tatyanacanales569]

mountaindog1 awesome thanks!

[@ckgoh]

Brutal!

[@paulgoetz586]

Miss you John RIP

[@meelimorenoo]

Hi John, may I ask you please how often do you recommend incorporating this kind of training?? Lets say one week fortitude training and how many weeks later?? Thanks🤗

[@mountaindog1]

I use the muscle rounds you see sometimes as part of my 3rd phase in my workout. The end of the supramaximal pump set.

[@scottwstevenson]

Many guys will alternate between John's programs and FT. Ideally, you're switching things when you start to plateau, but advanced guys, from experience, may see this coming and do, for instance, one of John's programs (~12 weeks) and then run a couple FT blasts (about 4-8 weeks each in total with the reloading "Cruise")

[@asanahmad8167]

"I even cheated a little bit and I still didn't get it" absolute legendary.

[@michaelcohen5417]

Did you guys do this workout with the previous chest workout in the same day as the same workout

[@mountaindog1]

yep

[@colaturkalures]

Coach, when will you colab with Jason Blaha?

[@2Clairvoyance]

You guys looking lean AF!

[@mountaindog1]

not too bad eh!

[@2Clairvoyance]

What time of year do you typically start cutting?

[@rolandoxiv6934]

jonh would you recommend this shoulder routine after 3 ( lets say normal ) exercise?

[@nicksouth5976]

Are you doing just 1 "muscle round" per exercise? Are you doing 2 to 3 sub-maximal straight sets as warm ups?

[@mountaindog1]

we were doing a few sets of submaximal work leading up to it

[@scottwstevenson]

Yes, submaximal warmups and maybe 1-3, depending on the exercise and previous work. (Might be just one for biceps or 3 for legs press). Only 1 MR for given exercise, but, depending on the volume Tier you use (a function of how well you recover), you might do several MRs for a given muscle group (but different exercises for each MR). :)

[@nicksouth5976]

Scott Stevenson Awesome! Thank you sir!

[@scottwstevenson]

You got it!

[@paporomanroman5304]

See great👍

[@ahmaddzulilmimuis4488]

I once read a book, there it says that there is a way to manipulate newbie gains even though we are not in the state of newbie gains. ie by not eating protein at all for 8 days, then on day 9 we eat directly with surplus calories and protein is very high, then all the protein we eat will be absorbed by the muscles and we will experience a significant gains. (during fasting protein we keep workout as usual). Is that true?

[@scottwstevenson]

That was the principle behind the ABCDE diet years ago (to some degree). I've never seen that extraordinary kind of a rebound effect demonstrated scientifically nor anyone had great success trying something so extreme. There is something to say for a post-show rebound effect, but but whether one can couple several fo these together to actually have NET progress forward is a different story... (Cybergenic and Rebound Training were two other programs based on this idea - googling them will get you some opinions. :) )

[@matheusbuniottoa.2557]

Can I use fortiude training as an intermediate? Or its just for advanced bodybuilders. Thanks

[@mountaindog1]

intermediate for sure, just pick correct tier based on Scott's recommendation in book

[@scottwstevenson]

Yes, for sure it's OK for intermediates. (The Volume Tiers allow you to custom to recovery ability, as well as the autoregulation built into the program. :) )

[@matheusbuniottoa.2557]

Thanks Scott!

[@scottwstevenson]

You got it!!!

[@Joncka]

10:40 That guy in the background is training to fight the mountain.

[@fitnessbeyondtime9183]

how doi get my hands on the ebook john?

[@mountaindog1]

drscottstevenson.com

[@scottwstevenson]

www.fortitudetraining.net :)

[@amytavmukherjee]

What is the song name? Please, I need to know...the instrumental song @3:20 onwards

[@Xemantic]

Anyone?

[@mountaindog1]

not sure - it was free music

[@Batflapers]

What is that tasty jam at 6:50?

[@mountaindog1]

free music - not sure. Id rather blast Pantera

[@ShreddedASMR]

Seriously, that shit was sick as hell! Especially that riff right at 7:20, got the blood pumping!

[@seanwu0624]

It’s rest/pause right?

[@scottwstevenson]

Muscle Rounds are a kind of cluster set, as are DC-style rest-pause sets...

[@sheldoncooper8199]

He calls Scott Stevenson the smartest man in Bodybuilding, When he himself is a very very good trainer.

[@bentleyisaiah428]

@Lorenzo Andrew Yup, been watching on Flixzone for months myself :)

[@alh4268]

What are tiers?

[@mountaindog1]

it is how much volume you do, it's a system Scott uses to determine sets/volume

[@vndrevlves]

I always watch everything in 1.5 speed. Not on Scott's videos tho, I wanna make sure every word he says is burnt into my brain.

[@drewsky1008]

Is your friend wearing cobra grips...?

[@scottwstevenson]

Harbinger lifting grips. They hold up much better than Versa Gripps (which I go through in

[@kalibmaxwell6394]

John you look like you got the Ohio River going through those arms

[@mountaindog1]

lol!!

[@benb.4515]

FT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST “””INVESTMENT””” ONE COULD MAKE. I FELT LIKE I HAD ROBBED SCOTT FOR THE AMOUNT I PAID. IT IS A PIECE OF GOLD

[@luisillo1987]

I forget how huge John is.

[@MEL-ti2sp]

I see people are still doing overhead press. This goes to show you how the fitness/ bodybuilding industry it's still in its infancy.

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[@johnkid9573]

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