Forza Horizon 5 is Stunning - Xbox Series X/S Hands-On - A DF Direct Special

[@frankie5821]

I’m not even a car guy but I’ll always jump into Forza, it’s so good.

[@evanstein3011]

Me neither, but I'll only jump into the Horizon games because they're simpler -- the vanilla Forza is definitely more for the car guys.

[@jebfrost5357]

Same

[@50H3i1]

I'm not a car guy but I'm addicted to racing games

[@shadowstrangler1]

@@evanstein3011 same Horizon is really good. Not a fan of Track based Racing.

[@BDreGaming]

And there's nothing else to play on xbox

[@theworldeatswithyou]

Astonishing what you can get out of Series S

[@gtavshortclips4740]

This is only the beginning. Wait until forza motorsport 8/horizon 6. Series s will shine even more

[@ruprekt1979]

Another amazing showing from Series S. The value for money of that machine coupled with Game Pass is quite astonishing.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

those guys at playground are wizards. 1080p with 4xmsaa and these superb graphics is no easy task.

[@MadX8]

@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe They did work very well, but the Series S isn't as weak as people think. Hopefully more devs will take the Series S seriously in the future

[@MG-fb2fr]

👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

@@MadX8 tell that to square Enix over guardians of the galaxy lmao. Its like they didn't even try for the series S version which is sad

[@azizjacko3222]

@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe yeah i saw that, quite ridiculous

[@MichaelXboxEvolved]

Definitive racing game of the year

[@nahuelnapoli]

GOTY

[@jeremybrown9611]

@@nahuelnapoli Think Halo might get that, but I wouldn't be surprised either way

[@VerticalStrafes]

@@jeremybrown9611 Halo releases too late for game of year at least from the game awards

[@annoyingasshole3324]

@@jeremybrown9611 Halo game of the year wtf lol

[@ZombieZifiction]

that's not saying much... the only other racing game was cruisn blast lol

[@goob8945]

Knew this was gonna be fantastic when the devs showed off so much gameplay so early. You could tell they were proud of and confident in their work

[@alexsilva28]

Always a good sign to see gameplay before hand

[@dougrasmussen151]

Well they should be looks amazing Cant wait to see how it runs on my 3080 lol

[@goob8945]

@@alexsilva28 unfortunately these days there are some exceptions. Battlefield 2042 for example; I have no idea what build the trailers are using because the actual beta fell very short

[@jeremybrown9611]

Playground Games always bring it bruh, can't wait to see how Fable uses their Engine

[@vincevirtua]

It was awesome they did that. Reminds me of what they did with Cyberpunk 2077.

[@LOSTBHOY88]

Sony really need to invest some money into making this sort of game. We have nothing like this on PS unfortunately. It’s the reason I bought an XB1 years ago just to play Horizon. Will be picking up a Series X for this too, it looks astounding

[@MMoer]

It goes both ways. I would like if Xbox could get a game like God of war.

[@sparrow56able]

this is the ONE thing xbox has lol

[@chaiNeOfCreaTivItY]

Yeah but still you have so much great exclusives so you cant have it all

[@kanpeki3033]

@@MMoer what a generic third person story game?

[@teach9023]

​@@MMoer May be coming with Hellblade 2. Seems there's a chance we get our first look at the Keeley's Award Show.

[@davidlr97]

Very glad to see that the Series S version retains the 60fps option

[@oldcet5277]

it will always have 60fps, thats what it promissed

[@davidlr97]

@@oldcet5277 I didn't know they'd promised that, but I'll be glad to have the option either way

[@gourab-2129]

@@oldcet5277 LoL you forgot GotG and AC Valhalla

[@muki2694]

@@gourab-2129 valhalla has been updated 60fps but I know what you mean sometimes it is possible that the optimization from other studios apart from Microsoft is not so good at least at the beginning

[@exiledrabbit]

I cannot wait to see what these guys and girls do with Fable.

[@oLoSTo44]

ditto

[@BubbyKai]

Yea I think fabled is blessed to be made in this engine I'm excited

[@SanjiSmutje]

Not same devs though

[@ThatOneGuyFromSchool]

@@SanjiSmutje it is

[@justablindman1443]

@@ThatOneGuyFromSchool different playground studio, they do use the same engine

[@Lord_ofcinder]

ps5 fan here and man oh man this game truly is beautiful

[@paulgal]

I’m a PS fan but I bought the series a and have a ps5. With the ultimate game pass it’s a no brainer to have both.

[@braiaposts]

Gamepass is really amazing. I love the PS hits, But in this gen i got a SS and the gamepass, and it's very funny that i have sooo much games.

[@Lord_ofcinder]

@@braiaposts see the thing i dont understand is why is everyone saying in this gen i would get an xbox over ps5 ? This gen has just started and the ps5 has released more games. if anything the best way to enjoy both is get game pass for pc and a ps5.

[@selnor1983]

When Digital Foundry use the words "I'm totally blown away" you know we are looking at something truly special. I can't believe the visual density and fidelity of this game. And it's completely locked framerate. Welcome to next gen finally.

[@Neilos-sd6ti]

Amazing it will also run in xbox one

[@yoyo-nf1ww]

EXCEPT for the LOD popping still a few meters away like old-gen titles..

[@matthewadams9025]

@@yoyo-nf1ww you gotta be blind asf

[@danielallen7384]

I wouldn't go that far. They claim 8k on the series x but it's not capable of native 4k 60 on this game.

[@GJG0420]

@@danielallen7384 it's running at 4K 60 in performance mode on series x

[@rcng086]

Playground games is the best developer Microsoft has right now. I'm anxious to see what they can do outside of racing

[@Superhornet331]

Fable :o

[@xboxrules8472]

Turn 10, 343 Industries

[@tomanderson2006]

@@xboxrules8472 343 is shit

[@Tyranniod]

This game looks absolutely amazing. I don't even really like racing games but it just looks so good.

[@gustavomoraes8454]

Playground Games is Microsoft Game Studio nº1 by far!! Horizon series is a masterpiece!

[@Rapunzel879]

Asobo isn't an Xbox studio. Yet. But yeah, they're definitely up there with the best.

[@jcZo23]

It's a driving game, no such thing as a masterpiece in that genre & there's tons of far better racers on PC.. Xtards just don't have shit to play & hype up mediocrity at every turn

[@danielanane246]

@@jcZo23 touch some grass

[@chosenone3527]

@@jcZo23 Gran Turismo 1-3 are masterpieces though

[@Youraveragegamer_97]

id say obsidian 2019 outer worlds 2020 gounded 2022 avowed 2023 outer worlds 2

[@Schizm1]

As owner of Series S that is plugged to my PC 1440p monitor I would be fine with the games giving me 1080p/60fps with this fidelity for the rest of generation. Amazing little machine.

[@Comuzzy]

Glad big companies still have in mind people who don’t want to spend half a grand on a console. I know it’s not altruism since they aim for profit, but it’s nice that everyone can have a chance to enjoy those games. Glad you’re enjoying yours too bro.

[@RyzenZegend]

And the Series S looks Beautiful!

[@salemsaleh9577]

That Remedy developer said Series S might be problematic now but with next-gen games and engines things should get better. Just the aspect of SSD-bound world streaming should minimize the memory limitation which is probably the biggest limit the S has. Other aspects would like help like when S sells more it will grant more incentive to optimize, and when the cross-gen era is over devs will have more time and focus for the S. There are also other features like the RDNA2 ones and XVA which should also allwo for more CPU-GPU overhead.

[@pgr3290]

1/4 the resolution for 1/2 the price isn't exactly amazing to me, and tiny storage to boot. 100GB this game, that's nearly 1/3 the available storage on a Series S gone with one title. Makes better sense to save up and buy a machine that'll last and offer better value. Series S is cheap, but that isn't the same as good value IMO. I think it'll just struggle later on in the generation too with ever poorer performance and weaker support especially from third parties. Owners will want rid of it for upgraded hardware, just outlaying more money. But whatever you think is worth the outlay....

[@Schizm1]

​@@pgr3290 I have gaming PC so there is no console on the market that can give me the same graphic fidelity. That's why price and performance of series S is amazing for me. I can play all the titles from previous xbox generations that were never released on PC and also I can still play coop with my buddy who owns series X but no gaming PC. As far as resolution goes? Don't really care. 60fps is way more important for me.

[@lorankatoran8856]

Really like how they used the Series S here. Well done Playground

[@zbosh]

Same

[@lorent0591]

Yea, a lot of the time the series s gets left behind

[@SpagmanAus]

This looks simply stunning. Can we start talking about how much more excited for their Fable game this makes us??? 😀

[@Sal3600]

this is my thought process anytime i see forza. i just think of fable running on the same engine!

[@Fablebrooks]

Fable is going to be great

[@RJH755]

True, at this point Playground is like Xbox's version of Insomniac with how many high quality games they put out!

[@imadetheuniverse4fun]

It's a racing engine, just because it looks stunning here, doesn't mean it'll translate to a completely different type of game. Especially with what we're seeing here and how good it looks and performs, it means that there are countless optimizations (read: specializations) made and they've no doubt taking advantage of the fact that it's a racing game in many ways. TIme will tell how well they can translate all this to a TPS RPG.

[@0-B1]

@@imadetheuniverse4fun it's not a racing engine it's a physics engine that just so happens to have cars trucks ect

[@sokol5805]

4x MSAA at 4K? Damn that Xbox is a beast.

[@lorent0591]

Series s 4x MSAA at 1080p for only 299 aswell

[@cynical9469]

Timestamp please

[@sokol5805]

@@cynical9469 16:55 and 17:03

[@cynical9469]

@@sokol5805 thanks

[@braiaposts]

@@lorent0591 SS IS the little beast, SX is the big. XD

[@tonygeddes9558]

This just looks unbelievably good. A Masterclass.

[@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube]

Yeah, and Seems like it looks great mostly in series s too 👍

[@tonygeddes9558]

@@TheKayliedGamerChannel-KZbin Yeah I have series s - have PS5 in lounge and pc upstairs but wanted a game pass machine for lounge so bought an S couple of weeks ago. Very pleased with the little fella! Liking it a lot.

[@coleG112]

This game is proof that as long as you do things right, all you need to do is pull back the resolution and the Series S is right up there with the X. Any dev that says otherwise just doesn’t want to/hasn’t put in the work to do it. Density was great, frame rate was great. All it needs is scaled back resolution (and I’m sure there’s other things under the hood that change).

[@Zakurablade]

I really feel once the xbox one one x ps4 and PS4 pro are out of the picture devs will put more work into the series s.

[@M4L1KG]

How do you change the resolution

[@coleG112]

@@M4L1KG The devs do it, not us. Set the target res to 1080 instead of 4K. It’ll output to 1080/4K as needed, but the actual rendering resolution is a whole different thing

[@antbrooks1625]

PS5/4 needs something like this. Call it Gran Turismo World or something lol. Anyways, this is incredible. Playground Games/Xbox Game Studios deserves a round of applause.

[@TheDomLouis]

@@Dr904 I loved MotorStorm!! Underrated how fun that was!!

[@SoldierOfGodrick_]

@@TheDomLouis hell yeah, punching dudes off their bikes was hilarious

[@supermadkid]

sony had the driveclub devs but shut the studio down and turned off the servers. those devs eventually went on to make dirt 5 and i believe one of them is now working at playground games on fable as a lead engine designer or something

[@alexsilva28]

@@Dr904 Now that's an idea

[@antwango]

Motorstorm and Driveclub IPs are there to be used by Sony… Both motorstorm and driveclub allude to this huge festival of driving or being apart of a car meet…. The very first motorstorm hinted to a this festival type thing but it was never expanded I don’t think by evo… love evo…. Sony have lost their arcade racer that Sony always have for every gen and launch… I get it, I get why Sony and other companies have done it.. Sony used to have ridge racer and damn do I miss namco arcade games… motorstorm when it got to ms3 was beginning to ape that other car game… not blur but that other one lol where you triggered explosions and set pieces…. Motorstorm and Driveclub are IPs that Sony could revive… no need to reboot or remaster as there is no narrative… both titles imo have better names… and I think the reason why Sony didn’t want evo working on a GT spin off… I can see forza horizon outshining forza… and just looking at the carnage in horizon and the wide expanse etc only make me wonder what a motorstorm on ps5 by a Sony studio would look like… car games are notoriously easy for making visuals look amazing early on…. Sadly I don’t see Sony trying to squeeze an open world racer into the market against forza horizon the crew and need 4 speed… not yet anyway….

[@rotaryperfection]

The level of detail and lack of pop-in is next level.

[@rotaryperfection]

@BEASTFRAG435 Well there's res scaling going on to keep the frames locked but it's really high quality. Regardless the image quality is next level for a console.

[@VerticalStrafes]

@@rotaryperfection it’s native in quality mode

[@TeamMD0]

Halo should take notes .

[@rotaryperfection]

@@TeamMD0 Halo was originally built specifically for Xbox One and started dev back in 2015. 343 and MS didn't even have the Series specs till over a year later. Horizon 5 was built specifically to take advantage of the Series specs because they started on that game in 2018. Playground admitted this during the reveal at E3. Sony did the same with Horizon Forbidden West as it was built from the ground up to take advantage of PS5. People keep trying to compare Halo, but Halo wasn't originally designed to take advantage of next gen. Now 343 did upgrade the engine during development to Slip Space and had to revamp the game to make it work better on the old hardware. I suspect that when the RT update goes live in the future that we'll get a more gen 9 aware version of the game because right now, it seems it's running in One X back compat mode with increased frames. The really is if this was a TRUE 9th gen game, we damn sure wouldn't be getting a 4k120fps mode. That should tell you its currently an 8th gen game.

[@iris657]

looking forward to an indepth video on the pc version with optimal graphics settings. but very happy to see the frame rate is perfectly stable on the consoles, makes me less worried about whether my pc will keep above 60fps minimum at 1440p.

[@leonvrd]

the optimization in forza horizon 4 is incredible, it even runs pretty well in integrated graphics cards, I'm sure they will keep that in 5

[@xAfroMetalHead1990x]

John’s disgust when Alex called the Bronco, “that truck” LMAO

[@Gaudine]

Alex laughed when Rich said the Xbox Series X is a brute force of a machine. I’m guessing he wants a £449 machine to perform like a £4000 PC.

[@Cblan1224]

@Misaki yes, you win the performance per dollar argument. No, you won't be brute forcing anything with a zen 2 apu from 2019

[@DV-ou1yu]

@@Cblan1224 ☹

[@PositronCannon]

@@Gaudine That's not how I understood that bit. He laughed as Rich said "and things will change on the other platforms", which in this context is the Xbox One since that's the one that can't "brute force" anything. The "brute force" bit from Rich is most likely in reference to how the game has to run on last gen consoles so the Series X has a ton of overhead. I think Alex was laughing at the thought of the sort of downgrades that will be required for last gen compared to that.

[@alexsilva28]

@@PositronCannon I thought so too

[@theblubus]

"......did you just call the 2021 Ford Bronco just-like 'that truck' ?" My exact response when he said it

[@Kielyoutube]

So good that the X is native 4k and S is native 1080p. Should be how all games are optimised for both systems. Not everyone has a 4k TV

[@lorent0591]

95% native.

[@VegitoBlackityBlack]

5% dynamic

[@kostasbousbouras2654]

Dynamic in performance mode.

[@russelllapua4904]

I have a 4k tv and the S, games still look great.

[@Radical1994]

@@kostasbousbouras2654 both native if only u listened

[@Zakurablade]

Game looks amazing on the series s great job to the team.

[@wolfgangaero]

Digital Foundry sounding like they need a cigarette after this sex of a game 😂😂

[@osirmolar9614]

For a moment there I thought u were talking about the band... Great band though, u should check them out.

[@EMMANUELMG1989]

@@osirmolar9614 I thought the same 🤣🤣🤣 I love that song

[@EMMANUELMG1989]

I love "Apocalypse" from Cigarette after sex

[@detroitsmith313]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alexsilva28]

I'm considering getting an Xbox for this and Halo. All the coverage I've seen for this game has been extremely positive.

[@KvVortex]

trust me you wont be disappointed

[@FormulaProg]

Get yourself a series S they’re so cheap now, don’t know where you are but in the UK they are selling under 200

[@JohnDoe-pu5gk]

Halo is dogshit.

[@zainmushtaq4347]

me too, with Game Pass = the ultimate budget-friendly next-gen combo 8D

[@donovanduffus4616]

@@JohnDoe-pu5gkdid you not see the reaction people had to the flights?

[@0hMyGandhi]

This has always been one of my biggest gripes with so many racing games: The car models look incredible, but the environments are almost sterile and lifeless. It really bugged me with the last few Gran Turismo games, where they seemed to still be using Mario 64 tree sprites, and everyone's excuse at the time was, "well, you are going so fast, you aren't really going to notice them anyway." This game somehow manages to have gorgeous cars and absolutely breathtaking environments. What an incredible achievement.

[@cmdr101z8]

Well, the difference also is that GT is a simcade, so you’re racing on a track. Forza Horizon is an open world game so you have more ability to slow down and admire the scenery

[@LaoShimazaki]

only can imagine how well fable is going to look 😍

[@jcZo23]

Don't hold your breath

[@sean7332]

@@jcZo23 ?

[@brunomiiguel]

Séries S is really smashing any PC build for that price tag and even slightly higher. I like it. If it came with some very basic Windows 11 capabilities I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[@lorent0591]

Can a €450 pc even beat it ?

[@bnbnism]

Yea but the storage issue with the Series S is a huge scam and it's a waste of money better getting the Series X

[@antaxticii5600]

@@bnbnism point is, u ain’t getting anything at that price point for even 80% of what series s has as of 2021.

[@legozfordayz]

PCs have always been overpriced, now that the power gap between consoles and PCs is getting small it’s becoming apparent how much people are getting ripped off. A PC for the same specs of a PS5/XSX is $1500 USD and this is without a 4K monitor (+$500).

[@cynthiaandoh9575]

Definitely. Consoles always have really good bang for buck hardware. My PC can do more but for just straight-up gaming, that $300 Series S is competing with my $800 build.

[@shaneosullivan8546]

Can't wait to play this. 400+ hours in fh4 and still playing. Just checked, 607hrs and 5mins. Didn't expect that.

[@WheeledHamster]

You don't have any other games?

[@RobRuiz805]

@@WheeledHamster the game is that good. I've spent hours just driving around doing speed traps and building up my skill chains

[@shaneosullivan8546]

@@WheeledHamster Loads of them. It's easy over two years to play that length of time. How many people put thousands of hours into Cods or fifas in one year?

[@fordio1979]

@@shaneosullivan8546 for sure, I've got 1100 hrs on warzone

[@shaneosullivan8546]

@@fordio1979 I'd say my son has that on Overwatch and I know one guy with 2k hrs of Destiny 2. Fair play to you I'm impressed.

[@7777mikail]

I'm a PlayStation fan but I have to admit that this game looks so cool

[@7777mikail]

@@naimarecordsbcn I will not say I’m a fan because it’s the only Xbox Studio that I really like with Arkane and I never had an Xbox (always PlayStation). But I have no hate for Xbox unlike some of my fellow PS owners, just love for gaming (there are idiots in both camps tho)

[@piotrbiaas8119]

I wish they add 1080p quality mode, because I want fluidity and graphics at the same time.

[@Ex0ticViru5]

1080p @ 60hz might be available on the Series S.

[@mrfrancy0154]

@@Ex0ticViru5 will be available

[@CasuallyLit]

Yeah quality graphic settings on 1440p or a dynamic resolution would be dope.

[@Ray-dl5mp]

That’s a good point. If you could eliminate pop in and increase lod with lower resolution at 60 fps - that should be an option if it’s doable.

[@piotrbiaas8119]

@@Ex0ticViru5 that will be 1080p fluidity it will look like 4k fluidity on xsx. I m telling about xsx with max graphics settings with 60fps at 1080p.

[@Deedric_Kee]

This is my first time actually getting to play it. It's the only reason why I got an "XSX. Good video as always 👍🏽

[@sj4632]

The whole Horizon series is a work of art.

[@JohnnyOrgan]

Having seeing how good it's holding up on the Series S, I have confidence my Ryzen 2700/RX 580 combo will make this game look great at 1080p. Let's just hope they're up to snuff for Elden Ring too...

[@ImIncluded166]

The series s runs flight simulator just shows its capability what it can actually really do

[@glock4455]

Considering that i run wreckfest at 120< fps in 1080p with everything maxed using a ryzen 5 2600/ gtx 1060 6gb (which is pretty comparable to your setup) i'm pretty confident FH5 will run just fine if it is as optimized as wreckfest Funny thing is i can run NFS shift 2 (a game from 2011) at no more than 70fps due to the lack of optimization lol

[@austinidkneededtomakeanewa6303]

@@glock4455 I don’t really know much about computers but will a 1660 super and a ryzen 3700 with 16 gb be able to run this good do you think??

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

@@austinidkneededtomakeanewa6303 Yea, it should.

[@austinidkneededtomakeanewa6303]

@@PixelatedWolf2077 do you think I’ll be able to run 60 FPS and stuff??

[@infernonine]

The wait is driving me nuts. I have vacation from work from the 6th till the 17th. I’m gonna be on this like crazy.

[@Elwaves2925]

I asked my boss for time off and he agreed straight away. Thankfully, my boss is me so it was really easy. ;-) A week tomorrow as I type. It's preloaded, so fingers crossed for no launch problem.

[@infernonine]

@@Elwaves2925 I hoping for a perfect launch too I’m a bit nervous because it is on gamepass and millions are gonna be trying to play.

[@Elwaves2925]

@@infernonine Understandable, especially as it's rare to get a big game launch with no issues. As long as it's playable and doesn't crash, I can live with it short term. Fingers crossed and all that for both of us.

[@paulmertens5522]

I would have welcomed a 1440p120 mode. To me, that makes more sense than a 2160p30 mode in a racing game, especially if the quality mode has motion blur applied to it, effectively decreasing the resolution.

[@klipseracer]

There is a lot of pressure for games to 'look good bro' so I understand why they did that. Plus, not many people have 120hz displays still and as that gets better, they can still release a 120hz mode later on.

[@VegitoBlackityBlack]

@@klipseracer Still tho

[@prettyboytwink]

If we could get a setting to disable MSAA..

[@raptorhacker599]

What? It's 30fps?

[@jimtrotman85]

@@raptorhacker599 Quality mode 30fps. Performance mode 60fps.

[@FazeredTube]

So excited for this. It is the reason I bought a Xbox One to add to my PS4. Game Pass and FH5 is the reason I bought a Series X as my main console.

[@vincentthereaper1196]

I’m a PlayStation guy but this looks jaw dropping and fun as hell, Xbox is a more powerful machine so cheers to you Xbox owners, this looks like a masterpiece.

[@thisguyoverhere6601]

I only have a PS5 and this looks like it's a generation ahead of GT, visually.

[@NoisR]

not only graphics but all forza horizons are awsome games alot of fun and good performence. dont forget its on xbox and pc

[@SC0RPI0NFURY]

Looks like a fun arcade racer, i can't wait to play Gran Turismo 7 on PSVR 2, that is gonna be insane

[@Baldur452]

@@SC0RPI0NFURY Racing fans are eating in the next 12 months. Forza Horizon, GT7, ACC next gen port, Grid Legends, NFS 2022, F1 2022 and Forza Motorsport.

[@NoisR]

@@SC0RPI0NFURY dont know why people think forza horizon is an arcade racer. if nfs are arcade racing games any forza title is far away from being arcade in terms of handling feel

[@braiaposts]

So proud of my SS. The 4k version of PC and SX IS absolutly amazing too.

[@osopotato1698]

Playground Games are Wizards! Top 3 MS owned Studios!

[@sugarbait]

Top 3 period!

[@VariantAEC]

I would argue they are Microsoft's top studio. Not top 3, but #1. They're consistently making quality titles and add-ons and they make games in a genre I actually enjoy which helps. But seriously even taking out my personal preference no other developer MS has makes consistent improvements to their engine, games and of course the overall visuals in my personal opinion which is based heavily on objective facts. All that praise for Playground Games out of the way. They really haven't improved visuals that much from FH3 the game does look better and the of course FH4 runs much better on PC than FH3, but ultimately I'm not seeing massive changes in the visuals outside of the environment the game takes place in. It's good to hear XSS is running the game at 1080p60. It's a sign my PC will do the same and hopefully with all settings (sans RT) maxed out.

[@sugarbait]

@@VariantAEC Top 3 studio in the whole industry!

[@ImmAaronn]

@@VariantAEC i think they're incredibly talented, but I wouldn't consider them their "top studio" simply because they've only made 1 genre of game, which is racing (forza horizon). Depending on how they do in other genres will define their efficiency and diversity. If they smash fable out of the park like this then I'll definitely consider them as one if not their top studio

[@VariantAEC]

@@ImmAaronn By that standard, MS has no top studios. The Coalition has only made TPSs, 343 has only made FPSs and Playground and T10 have only made racing games.

[@GamerDesdeLos90s]

Absolutely stunning! Specially "that truck" right Alex? jajajaja! Thanks for the analysis guys, cannot wait to play this one on my Series X and OLED.

[@Squishmallows24]

2:16 the landing looks and sounds so satisfying in the gameplay videos

[@honestxboxgamer]

I would normally put 60fps above any visual enhancements but because I am hoping to get a LG CX or C1 during Black Friday, I might put the visual enhancements above fps on this because Forza's are still so good at 30fps and the visual enhancements seem worth keeping for this game but of course will see for myself how noticable the differences are.

[@farazmalik9439]

The 30fps mode here looks almost... dream-like.

[@beardalaxy]

As long as you've got motion blur, racing games at 30fps are totally fine and can even seem like the speed is faster. I just prefer the smoothness, but it's one of those things where you don't NEED 60fps for it to look and play well.

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

I Have a cx and i guess i will play with 60fps. An oled looks so much better in hdr that every LCD is laughable compared.

[@tq4142]

How much do you think those lg will be 🤔

[@XxViciousxX]

Actually just got a 48in Lg C1 yesterday switching back and forth at least in Forza Horizon 4 I can barely tell a difference in quality but can defiantly tell a difference in smoothness in the 120 FPS mode. But I like high FPS and smoothness over just pure graphics but that's of course just my preference.

[@kostasbousbouras2654]

Forza always looked amazing and this is the best one. The most obvious difference here is the tessellation, objects on ground look more real. In other things Forza Horizon 4 looks close graphically but as I said Forza Horizon always looked amazing anyway.

[@mohammedsadeq5392]

The Xbox era is starting with this gem of a game ; next is halo

[@redsident936]

It wasn’t really a showcase type of game but I personally think it started more with Psychonauts 2. Next is AoE4 and then this.

[@metallicafan416]

Maybe not everyone's type of game but Flight Simulator was this Xbox's big true next-gen title

[@budthecyborg4575]

Don't forget the Mini Fridge, a gaming industry first.

[@SC0RPI0NFURY]

@@metallicafan416 Psyconauts 2 is a multiplat game and Flight Simulator is a Microsoft PC game originally and game out in 2020 for PC. This will be Xbox Series X|S first triple A title but it's still cross gen with last gen console, not a true next gen title. Just saying :)

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@SC0RPI0NFURY Flight Simulator is the ONLY true next-gen game on the market today, everything else would run fine on last-gen hardware with some fiddling, Flight Sim flat out cannot run above 10fps on last gen hardware, at least not without turning off 90% of the terrain generation.

[@joshread3740]

Looks absolutely incredible. I won't lie, as a Series S owner, it hurts a bit that they were only able to get 1080p at 30fps. 25% of the Series X resolution is pretty rough. I think I won't really have much choice but to go with the 60fps mode, for the better motion resolution.

[@glenmcl]

KZbin compression. Better in person.

[@Fabiankxx]

Series S is a 1080 machine dude. Thats pretty clear by now.

[@joshread3740]

@@Fabiankxx I guess, so, but that wasn't clear when it came out when a lot of us bought it. It was sold as a 1080p-1440p console (presumably where 1080p is 60fps and 1440p is 30fps on a lot of games).

[@simonemuzio4376]

@@joshread3740 just like Series X and PS5 were sold as 4K consoles, when in reallity they reach such resolution (native) in just few games.

[@Oyuncu82]

@@joshread3740 It was worse than the One X and it was pretty clear that it is a 1080p machine. I don't even get why Microsoft released a worse machine than it's older gen.

[@kruger2635]

Im always curious about the resolution of custom decals...

[@OrionTheChonk]

In previous titles, they were notoriously low quality, but for Horizon 5 they specifically mentioned how much they’ve improved the quality of those decals. I cannot recall if it’s 4K, but it is significantly higher resolution than previous titles.

[@kruger2635]

@@OrionTheChonk I hope so man... I wont call my self a pro artist but i have made some cool things but always disappointed when added on a car.

[@kruger2635]

@Kaheeros I 100% relate, omce again not calling us all pacasso but when we are making these stuff its alright to have an OCD about things being symmetrical... Or anither thing is when you say copy from left side and paste it to right and everything is off... nothing fits and the measurements make no sense.

[@tandoodleys5252]

This has the be the squarest comment ever. Get a grip dude...

[@kruger2635]

@@prezidenttrump5171 Your one of the coolest guys I know, you clearly are not a fan of the forza series then.

[@xg3tbaxx403]

SERIES X IS A MONSTER💥💥💥

[@ashleyhorton1042]

30fps what a monster 😭😭

[@somethingdifferent9024]

@@ashleyhorton1042 There is a 60fps mode, what are you on about?

[@glenmcl]

@@somethingdifferent9024 he's a jealous fanboy

[@ashleyhorton1042]

@@somethingdifferent9024 with downgrades

[@epictroy]

@@ashleyhorton1042 like all Sony Ps5 games at 60 lol

[@wolf-wm2zs]

"Did you just call the 2021 Ford Bronco a truck?" XD

[@gustavomoraes8454]

Just laughing kkkkkkkkk

[@takob1794]

Just when i thought forza's graphics couldn't improve, forza horizon 5 made 4 look hilarous

[@Cedrinate]

FOR REAL

[@nathanlamarr7276]

It not that big of a jump compared to 4. Hilarious. No. It is a much welcomed improvement but again choosing to support the Xbox One isn't something I was looking forward to. Soon once support drops for xbone/x we'll see true visual impact. PC and XSX all the way. I mean we're dedicating 2021 games for 2013 hardware. Jaguar was shit when it launched... Looks pretty good though and I'm stoked.

[@Casomyro1983]

What? Horizon 4 still looks awesome in 4k. Even in FullHD.

[@takob1794]

@@Casomyro1983 yup, I wrote "Just when i tought the graphics couldn't improve" so yeah horizon 4 is stunning but if you see comparatives on youtube you will see the difference, horizon 4 is awesome, horizon 5 is just perfect

[@Casomyro1983]

@@takob1794 awesome sounds better than hilarious. thank you.

[@khalidhashmi9772]

This is hands down the best looking game this gen so far.

[@betonman9]

how can you compare this to for example demon souls? its different game

[@sebastian1929]

@@betonman9 Im still searching the part where he compared It to demons souls

[@lorent0591]

@@sebastian1929 lol what the hell

[@mitchboland9591]

Forza horizon 4 was already drop dead gorgeous. This is somehow still a full step up when it comes to graphics. One of the best looking games ever.

[@TheKindredblades]

That game looks absolutly insane. It is incredible.

[@A5hTriX]

Yeah looks incredible... in 30fps photomode 😂😂

[@ejs3589]

@@A5hTriX Lmao We got EXPERTS like DF praising the fuck out if this game, and then tehre is you, a random youtube user with this mediocre comment lmao!! It must be the pain of God of War going to PC and playable on Xbox via Gforce. Coping with the pain I guess, its the only thing that comes to mind after reading such a patehtic statement lmao!!!

[@AkakiPeikrishvili]

I bought Forza Horizon 4 when it came out on Steam this Spring, and playing through the first mission I had already teared up. The intro of the game and atmosphere was just fantastic. It seemed like everything I've been looking for in a game. Pandemic hit all of us very hard and with the disappointment of Cyberpunk 2077 we've all expecting to be a savior of gaming, seems like FH4 warmed my heart instead. Been playing FH4 pretty much everyday since that and usually chill listening to music and driving around 1-2 hours. Game's just fantastic. Made me upgrade my GPU from 1080 to 2070 too just in time before FH5 gets released.

[@KusanagiMotoko100]

I barely see any difference between performance and quality modes, except for the frames per second.

[@Radical1994]

They both 4k native there slight changes like pop ins draw distance and RT

[@Psycho-zb4ee]

@@Radical1994 there is no RT during gameplay

[@Radical1994]

@@Psycho-zb4ee RT in forza vista if ur on quality mode

[@Ryan-yi5ro]

Are you playing it on your X now or watching a KZbin video? 🤦

[@jaigray5422]

Can't wait to see what they do with Fable if this is the kind of visuals they'll be pushing we're going to be in for a treat.

[@samclark3370]

Fable will look even better

[@metallicafan416]

Fable is using the same graphic engine I think

[@samclark3370]

@@metallicafan416 Next gen only. Will look better

[@orlanzotelfer4981]

@@metallicafan416 nah fable is using the next gen Forza tech engine that turn 10 is using for the next motorsport

[@danielredziniak2996]

THis isn't even the new forza engine, we will see it with new motorsport

[@caknelson2254]

Free on gamepass...Next gen isint just the box but the services.Way to lead the next gen, Xbox!

[@whatarerice]

Whilst I appreciate what you mean, the whole "free on Gamepass" thing is.. weird? We literally pay for Gamepass for games, it's not free lol.

[@VariantAEC]

@@whatarerice Not only that but games "free" on GP doesn't earn the developer much money for a sequel (assuming you don't buy any add-ons). GP is kind of a joke because there are still too few great *NEW* games available on the service especially great 1st party titles. That's mostly because MS is still not in the habit of releasing new titles consistently, but also because this is basically MS' only great 1st party franchise (No, I don't count Halo anymore though their latest could turn things around again).

[@joeydirt420]

Hell yea. Smash this game for 1$ on the PC and then back to my lovely PS5. Thank you xbox.

[@imo098765]

@@VariantAEC What do you mean, you need 1 AAA game to release every 6 months(7 months if its a $70 game) for it to be worth. You paying $10 per month so its 2 AAA games a year for it to be worth being signed up for an entire year. So value of NEW games is unbeatable. The next 2 months would have enough value for the entire of 2022 in terms of money spent. The developer doesnt earn much money, that is complete and utter bullshit, developers put their games on Game Pass because they get money from it. Do you think MS is holding them hostage to put games on it? They are getting compensated, some indie developers are saying Xbox pays for the entire games development, gives it free marketing and then they still get to sell the game on steam, gog, xbox etc. While Sony charges them $20K to be advertised on the homepage, while Xbox advertise them on the homepage and gives them money. Then others devs say, they have seen more sales since the game has been on gamepass and the franchise such as Yakuza is now a mainstream game? Do you think Sega isnt making money from the deal?

[@cruelwraith2games926]

You really don't have to pay for Game Pass you can pay for it with Microsoft points just like you can pay for Xbox Live gold with Microsoft points you can buy games with Microsoft points

[@marcosousaesteves]

Even the FH4 is still so damn good!

[@Jza-GZa40k]

Except the Map and Car sounds

[@ogkendrick6392]

Even FH3

[@Sheen334]

This game looks absolutely incredible. One of the best games visually that I've ever seen. Amazing.

[@jmoney1288]

Holy balls ... Did you guys just see the Halo Infiniteb campaign sneak peak? Gzussss, Microsoft is bringing the 🔥🔥🔥 this holiday

[@travistimms5054]

For sure and next year we might see the Zenimax acquisition start to pay off. Promising stuff.

[@davedestiny6155]

Xbox getting mind blowing exclusives,this is just the beginning 🥰

[@willwunsche6940]

Well now they own Bethesda... that's the crazy part. Best outcome Sony makes less of their games exclusive to keep Doom and Bethesda games from being Xbox only

[@stephen865]

yet its releasing on pc

[@-Grifter]

@@stephen865 it’s still an Xbox exclusive. People still don’t get it

[@titntin5178]

Well its not exclusive is it? In terms of consoles I have two PS5's and no Xboxes, but I'll be playing this game on a 3090 pc better than the Series x can deliver it... because its not 'Exclusive'. It is however one of the best showcases that the series X has some horsepower under the bonnet and I'm delighted for Xbox guys without a PC - its scandalous imo they have had to wait so long for decent next gen title that cant be played on their rivals system, but its here now and and anyone with a series X or indeed S, should be very happy :) As a gameplayer - I love to see such great titles coming out regardless of platform. If I didn't have the PC option, this would be the title that made me get a Series X to join the PS5 under the tellies!

[@davedestiny6155]

@@titntin5178 it's still xbox exclusive because you play it where xbox platform is,so also on pc,you won't be playing this on ps5

[@fenbops]

It looks phenomenal. I know I should play at 60fps but it looks so gorgeous and seems smooth at 30fps I’ll be tempted. Richard is blown away.

[@brianhartman4426]

You guys are doing a great job on these reviews, we appreciate your time and effort, keep up the great work.

[@rigoon290]

60 fps in the new console Generation is the best improvement i love it so much

[@nonipaify]

*laughs in 144hz*

[@squiddly007]

@@nonipaify Laughs at only spending $500

[@nonipaify]

@@squiddly007 your poor

[@squiddly007]

@@nonipaify Maybe or maybe I have a PC but want to play on my XBOX with my 65" HDR 4K TV sitting on my couch with a controller.

[@scissortongue5772]

@@nonipaify *you’re

[@xSuspect-7]

Holy shit, Forza Horizon 4 already consumed my life and this one looks even better

[@lorent0591]

Fh 4 looks 5 years old compared to this

[@sib0rg]

Quality mode looks so amazing. Definately how I'll be playing. The game looks so gorgeous.

[@Episode_13]

Only got full HD TV. So Perf mode for me

[@erkimann]

@@Episode_13 it’s the same resolution on both modes, but other graphical improvements on quality mode. And I don’t know if you know this but games looks better in 4K modes on 1080p tvs too

[@cihathalid1565]

2021 and racing game still playing at 30 FPS. ahaha

[@sib0rg]

@@cihathalid1565 True! But it's nice to have a choice 👌

[@Miadaskate]

Why wouldn’t you want the extra frames?

[@gogreengameon2146]

I need this in VR.

[@LordLiquidBaconII]

That'd be a dream, I'd love to play it in my Index.

[@solid_justice5855]

the only way i see that happening is on pc through a mod

[@sdo1840]

Sadly Microsoft not even looking at vr for the xbox consoles anymore. Is an option for PC though

[@narcopsy]

Eh, it'd be cool but can't see using vr for this game for very long

[@PatoChu]

you can play this on real life, its way more expensive flying to mexico and buying the cars. But it should be the same expierene

[@starrynight5633]

Forza has set the bar so high in the racing games genre. None is comparable.

[@musantshangase4679]

Need for speed became unplayable for me after I had played forza Horizon 4 for the 1st time

[@ahmed6111]

You can tell that John is just blown away, completely and utterly.

[@glenmcl]

Poor John. Must have been hard to admit for that PS fanboy.

[@automata.]

@@glenmcl oh boy here we go. If you listen to the weekly direct he spends a ton of time gushing about the game which is likely why he's a bit more reserved here

[@MrWar2050]

The fact that it looks this good and It's cross gen makes me wonder how good will the games look like when thir only next gen

[@FenderUsa]

@@glenmcl it's time to grow up mate

[@PANTEHRAH]

Jhons face = 🥺

[@halcyon-ar]

It's time for a racing game to be GOTY.

[@samdixon3719]

ehhh, dunno about that chief

[@opaz3530]

Nah

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Possible

[@vintageoriginallegit]

@@samdixon3719 in a world where most triple A releases are filled with lies, unnecessary micro transactions, bugs/glitches, unfinished assets, and broken launches. Shouldn’t we be praising a game that is well polished, well made, pushes the envelop tech wise, smooth gameplay and innovative modes.

[@alexandrecl4331]

@@samdixon3719 Why not? Forza is clearly the best game releasing this year.

[@Hello-ig1px]

i wish Sony made cars in Gran Turismo as customizable as Forza. Also, i wish Sony would implement a clutch button like Forza does. When i had an xbox i was able to play Forza, i was able to put a Corvette engine in a Honda Civic and make the Civic AWD. My Civic was smoking lambos.

[@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137]

Isn't Gran Turismo an simulation game? And Forza is arcade racing

[@Hello-ig1px]

@@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137 idk i think horizon is more arcade but the other forza that is just called forza is also simulation. i could be wrong about this tho, maybe they are both arcade. however, that has literally nothing to do with what i said. a game can be simulation based and offer more customization. those things aren't mutually exclusive.

[@tahan9323]

@@Hello-ig1px you are right. Horizon is an open world arcade racer. Motorsport is a simulator. These games are produced by two different teams, in which, Horizon is an offshoot of Motorsport.

[@leonfrancis3418]

@@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137 Both games settings to turn them more arcade like or more sim like. That also has nothing to do with what what he was saying.

[@nightdriver7216]

Heaven forbid this desecration never gets to GT. Forza looks pretty but under the hood every car is the same.

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

15:15 This is so true. Tried it on my PS5 with any games that support both 30fps and 60fps. If I straight play at 30fps it feels okay or normal if that make sense. But if games allow you to switch back and forth between those 2 modes in game instantly, 30 fps will going to look extremely terrible.

[@Schwing27]

I know exactly what you mean. After playing a few games at 60fps now, I never want to go back to 30 again.

[@kishaloyb.7937]

Can't wait for the new Fable game that is being developed on this engine as far as I know. It's gonna look majestic and will probably run great too.

[@northfield3654]

Its being developed on the next iteration of this engine so it will look even better.

[@chrislair6832]

@@northfield3654 Is it really? I can't even picture in my mind how amazing that's gonna look

[@starmade9367]

@@chrislair6832 I heard they were using unreal 5 for fable

[@chrislair6832]

@@starmade9367 If that's the case then it's almost gonna be unrecognizable how amazing that game will look

[@spectralgaming3787]

@@starmade9367 Na they will be using an upgraded version of this engine, Forzatech. The same one used on the Next gen only Forza motorsport releasing next year.

[@oooo1110]

Forza series are just a masterpieces.

[@yoyo-nf1ww]

No really to me.. having played more than 500 hours, I see many flaws.

[@telefonbarmann4514]

The game looks ridiculously awesome. I'm not a big fan of racing games myself, but you have to appreciate this. We have a pretty great generation of games ahead of us!

[@StreetComp]

Brilliant move to take all these cars they recreate inside and out for Forza Motorsport and let us have fun with them in an open world. Woulda thought by now PS would have something similar with GT

[@taquito1561]

They did that in FH3, you could drive motorsport cars like GT3s and stuff

[@richiecassel]

To me it feels like PS doesn’t care about gt, its not a 3rd person story driven game, so its not really what they focus on now a days

[@taquito1561]

Wait, I hadnt understood your comment lol, but yeah, it's so cool that they actually made a better more popular series from making a spinoff open world

[@StreetComp]

@@richiecassel yeah I guess you’re right as kinda weird just how many big PlayStation games are 3rd person action 🤔 but still I’d be surprised if Sony doesn’t realize how important GT is

[@jcZo23]

Snorza is an arcade racer GT is a sim..

[@210gremlin]

(Based on KZbin videos) these are some of the best graphics I’ve ever seen in a video game

[@jcZo23]

Man you poor poor Xtwats have no idea what good looking games are huh smh that's what happens when ya simp for mediocrity for so long & fyi racing games are the easiest games to make visually

[@nuno3887]

@@jcZo23 stop bitching and enjoy a good game when you see it

[@OtakugameFR]

The Xbox Series S is a little monster ! IMPRESSIVE !

[@ImIncluded166]

And its gunna be a monster for sometime to come lol I mean it can run flight simulator just shows its powerfull

[@jakeh4voc]

You know what…. I reallllyyy think we should be able to compete against our modified cars. 😅 And ride with them in FH3 convoys! 😉 And have actual (varied) garages for several cars! 🙂

[@gamespate4784]

Yo that’s actually a sweet idea.

[@narcopsy]

Not very essential features, I'd rather them work on the game play instead

[@Justin-ym5ce]

Glad to say this will be my first Forza Horizon game and I can’t wait to max it out on my 3090, heard so many great things about the series

[@sean7332]

As someone who's not into racing games much I have played horizon 4 on and off since it came out and other racers never hold my attention

[@splitstrim]

unless you have no 3090 at all )))

[@Justin-ym5ce]

@@sean7332 hope this one will be good, they’re hard to hold my attention too

[@ahrlj24]

I just wish it was taking place in Japan or more urban environment. Instead of more open sparse region.

[@Justin-ym5ce]

@@splitstrim lol MSI Gaming Trio, actually wasn’t hard to get, was told I had to wait a month for my 3080 but said they were stocked with 3090’s so I just got that… sucks if it’s true that the 4090 will double the 3090’s performance next year just have to get that, sell this 3090

[@MrXmoda]

Looks beyond sick. Very excited.

[@kteej27]

Between this and Gran Tourismo 7. I'm in heaven.

[@oooo1110]

You haven't seen nothing yet wait until Forza Motorsport. You will be 😲

[@yTcensored24]

The only franchise we can all say Microsoft has consistently done right with some minor fiascos like the sound engine in horizon 4, but for me the introduction scene for horizon 4 is the best of them all, the music, the cinematics, the weather changing...

[@sean7332]

This one's better

[@Comuzzy]

For me the worst part of FH4 was the map. Boring and really annoying when the snow came. I hope they scrap that idea for the rest of the series.

[@yTcensored24]

@@Comuzzy i also hated winter lol, but it was a good oportunity to use trucks and do offroad races

[@carlosmartinez3020]

For me forza horizon 4 was the worst FH game in the series, but looks like FH5 may be the best in the series. It's going back to FH1/2 which were my favourite ones so this could be the best in the series for me personally.

[@jfrazier8760]

I respectfully disagree, minecraft would be one. take two makes forza series, microsoft is the publisher, 🤔🤭. Although it can be said, the forza series has been consistent at delivering true upgrades and technologies to their gameplay and engine with each iteration.

[@StepOnLegos1]

The sun moved when he explained his experience in performance mode. Watch as the Bronco passes the lava in the volcano and goes around the bend.

[@griffgames9538]

3:00 Rich: "It's just so Rich." That's so Rich.

[@Chronokatan]

Not really a racing game fan but this has me hyped and can't wait to try it out. Looks amazing!

[@danielcowen2311]

The customization is really good in FH5, you can really find and create a perfect car for you. Also, you don't even have to race, there are a lot of fun sandbox things to do in Forza Horizon games.

[@sean7332]

They need to fix the pop in or something when driving it's very noticeable especially in the jungle segmant if they fix that the game would look so smooth

[@karl343]

It looks phenomenal, wheel support is meant to be improved. We're looking at a potential GOTY contender.

[@ImmAaronn]

Unfortunately racing games can't win game of the year I believe (could be wrong) but if so it will definitely be a contender for sure!

[@LinoOliveira92]

Absolutely any game can be goty. Only you decide what is goty. Everything else is some dumbasses opinion.

[@Comuzzy]

@@LinoOliveira92 GOTY will go to yet another 3rd person action/shooter game this year. I never gave much attention to that prize since last year, and since the moment Doom Eternal lost to best soundtrack to FFVII and best action game to Hades I know that shit is completely rigged lmao.

[@ajesus2490]

@@ImmAaronn I mean, in theory any game could win. It's just that racing games are almost always focused on one specific thing (racing itself of course) and it makes them "not good enough overall" to be considered GOTY contenders. Forza Horizon 5 actually brings so many different things to the table, not only technically but also talking about gameplay and content, that it could actually be considered a GOTY contender. Not saying it'll win, but it's certainly a contender for sure. One thing is for sure tho, the racing/sports category is an easy win for them this year.

[@miliyn17]

@@LinoOliveira92 sure any game can technically be goty but a racing game realistically likely won’t ever be since aside from visuals, not much has changed over the last decade I’m racing games

[@gtavshortclips4740]

Even if you play on performance they should do the garage 30fps so we get all the extra details on cars there as well

[@RyanGatts]

I love well-lit particles. One of the nicest looking parts of this footage

[@DavidHunter]

Looks fantastic on Series S which makes me happy. Such a great little console.

[@majesticcamels4198]

Metro exodus has entered the chat.

[@mareo187]

Forza Horizon made me appreciate independent music artists more and made me adore traveling even more ever since the first game. Even tho Horizon 4 didn't change that much I haven't been staying on a racing game for months and years outside of the FH series besides maybe Test Drive Unlimited 1, Need for speed hot pursuit 2, MC3, and 2005 Most Wanted, and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

[@dermonch7959]

That background music got me hooked, ngl...

[@SupaRush]

The Forza Horizon games are in a league of there own. A true marvel in video games.

[@fabolousjada5070]

Gt is better imo

[@SupaRush]

@@fabolousjada5070 Gran Turismo will hold a special place in my heart as well.. Think they standout in there own ways.

[@SupaRush]

@@fabolousjada5070 I also just think Gran Turismo isn't quite as average consumer friendly, because the driving is so realistic you actually have to hit the breaks around every corner and it isn't as arcade-like as Forza.. But still Gran Turismo is awesome and I've been wanting to play it again and can't wait for GT 7

[@ohhellnokamon4166]

Really wish we could get something closer to that quality mode running at 60FPS by rendering at a lower resolution. I always found that anything 1440p and above looks way sharp enough to me. Hell, even 1080p quality mode at 60FPS would have been a good balance IMHO. I mean this looks absolutely gorgeous and can’t wait to play this! Just feel that overrated 4K price tag is hurting the performance mode a bit. It’s a choice, and maybe they made the right call there after testing, but options would have been a great addition.

[@gtavshortclips4740]

I think 1800p 60fps with max settings would be good. 1800p still looks amazing on 4k screens

[@ohhellnokamon4166]

@@gtavshortclips4740 it does indeed. DRS down to 1080p with a high cap of 1800p coupled with their awesome dynamic settings technology might have had a fair shot at maintaining 60FPS using the Quality mode settings on Series X I in most cases rather sacrifice on resolution rather than visual settings in order to keep higher frame rates. I mean, yes, it does look stunning!!! But 30FPS although brilliantly handled here is IMHO not that well suited for fast racing games.

[@Radical1994]

@@gtavshortclips4740 they both 4k native

[@gtavshortclips4740]

@@Radical1994 yes i know, if performance mode was 1800p instead of 4k we might could have better graphics

[@Radical1994]

@@gtavshortclips4740 u won't see much difference the big difference is RT in quality mode in forza vista

[@lemonscent]

I wasn't really a fan of Xbox until I learned about Forza Horizon and Halo. As a playstation owner, I'll be buying the Series S for these 2 games :). Microsoft has nailed it and they are very fortunate to have a special studio like playground games who really do care about quality.

[@killed_by_the_architect-829]

No one believes you're a Playstation owner xbot you can cut the shit propaganda speech now.

[@eqjase]

As a loyal member of the DF community I must insist that John take a vacation. Let’s look at this objectively, he covers pretty much all the games everyone else does, he does industry leading retro content, the weekly podcast AND the live stream with devs.

[@hunterbowser667]

The thing is. He enjoys stuff. And won’t cover stuff if it hinders it.

[@Yodagamer1]

He actually is soon according to his Twitter. Well deserved tbh

[@hunterbowser667]

@@Yodagamer1 it’s so he can finish Psychonauts 2 lol. He apparently decided not to review it solely to enjoy it on his own time.