Forza Motorsport (2023) vs Gran Turismo 7 - Nordschleife Comparison (McLaren P1 GTR)

[@MotoGamesTV]

With the circuit long as Nordschleife, it's quite difficult to make a good comparison where you don't see big time gaps between corners, that's why I had to split this lap into 3 parts. I also had to do some cheating and use sports soft tires in GT7, because I was driving to fast compared to lap times I did in Forza with racing soft tires. Other than that, the same time of the day for both games (17.25) and identical weather conditions (mostly clear - Forza; dry, and pleasant with a few clouds - GT7).

[@AutomotiveVP]

Yeah, this is the same with me. Good comparison, mate, and fair! It's the car wobble of Forza that makes it hard to keep up with GT7.

[@VariantAEC]

Is it just me, or does FM23's track look too narrow? Was that the case in FM7, too?

[@KikuraKun]

Will you do a biggest comparison on a bumper cam? I think you did this in GT6, AC, PC, and FM5 (?).

[@yorikofailure]

@@VariantAEC the curbs are just oversized in forza, though the dottinger hohe straight is definitely too narrow

[@VariantAEC]

@@yorikofailure Agreed, but there are other curbs that look too flat as well compared to what I've seen in real-world videos and in GT7. Seems like most of the FM23's version of the track is too narrow.

[@thenuvolari9834]

1:50 forza did em dirty for the infamous Metzgesfeld tree Overall Forza went for a more richer and dense vegetation effect to look more dramatic and Gran Turismo tried to guess where the trees and respective species are irl Check a Summer onboard video of the Nords and you'll know

[@olavofernandes7286]

GT7 did not guess lol

[@oi118]

​@@4thManonCross I saw a comparison on the Kireth channel, where he talks about the tracks in Forza and Gran Turismo. Forza seems to have more details.

[@4thManonCross]

@@oi118 well unlike Kireths Opinon Digital Foundry who did an actual critical research and study factually exposed that Forza add fiction details and shrubbery for looks and ignore real details & landmarks that actual real life and pro sim driver's use for braking markers. So pick what suits you, looks Forza) or accuracy (GT7)

[@AnnatarCarvour]

WOW great job getting likes and spreading misinformation . When in FACT YOU GOT IT TOTALLY BACKWARDS LOL kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGbPfJ2td7Vlosksi=EXgSMMne_Xps1VWC

[@kotarojujo2737]

More details doesn't make it more accurate dumbass ​@@oi118

[@andreasmoller9798]

Gt7 is more accurate, turn 10 tends to add a lot of fake objects, pd has always been better With attention to detail and go for an accurate approach

[@XboxStation-xh8cw]

If by "accurate" you mean by GT6 standards. Still using fake billboard trees. GT7 doesn't give the impression of watching real life. FM does.

[@jeffvelix]

@@XboxStation-xh8cw With a name like this I understand why you say s**t like that. Play GT6 or GT7 before say anything and look better at FM8, you will see many 2d trees in this game.

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@XboxStation-xh8cwgt7 track is accurate fm is not, gt7 does look a lot better than the new fm, i think you should revisit gt6 to relise how much better gt7 looks, fm also uses outdated car models gt7 only uses high quality car models

[@shakengandulf]

​​​@XboxStation-xh8cw marcus, is that you 😂😂 Changed ya name because you trolled soo much.

[@abuelb]

Nice cockpit action cam in gt7😂kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5fZpHyqjb6asM0si=5bpzaJLD6kbEVC9y

[@KikuraKun]

I see the jump on the crest at Flugplatz still exists in FM2023, unlike the updated ones in GT7. Edit: Also, more Trees™

[@sherlock_backs]

Bftgu

[@XR4turbo]

The Saving Private Ryan color grading on FM23 is just such a baffling decision

[@dargis49]

Agreed

[@serebro1love]

It's not standart colours, it's looks like nonHDR or bat weather choice

[@twosawyers]

Because it’s more accurate. Sunlight desaturates colors. This is just the way it is haters.

[@christtel1484]

Whoile for some ot may look like waahed colors, forza actually looks more natural and realistic lighting youd see in a raceday recording. Gt7 looks great but it looks like a crips game which isny very realistic. Both have their charm

[@vxyz5219]

@@twosawyers Uh, sunlight desaturates the appearance of colors? That is some of the wildest coping I've ever seen on this platform. Please, either get outside more often or visit your doctor for colorblindness.

[@msum23]

wish Forza would add some deeper colours, it all looks washed out... like the gamma has been raised, everything has a white filter

[@dargis49]

Track is in the middle of the German forest

[@DeanT1987]

Yes the game itself always looks washed out and I don’t get why, it’s washed out and has this reddish tinge to it but I will say this the tree line looks much better on FM it actually has detail and reflection where as GT7 looks super dark in the middle of the day idc where the sun is you should be able to see leaves and not just black

[@JustMamba]

If you play on pc use reshade or if you have a nvidia card use the game filters. I really wish gt7 was on pc so I could compare myself, but since I only play pc I'm not even going to speak on which is better like some of these fan boys in the comments lol

[@SlammedZero]

Yup, I totally agree. It's one of my bigger gripes about FM. I'm on console, and I've tried adjusting HDR, turning on/off Dolby Vision, etc, and I just can't seem to get the colors to pop out. It's weird because I think the Forza Horizon games look much better than Motorsports.

[@msum23]

@@SlammedZero I was really expecting this to look at least as good as FH5, that's on another level. I thought they shared tech, it should look as good. That looks photoreal, this doesn't. FH5 has so many more graphical options on PC too.

[@JackMaslovLive]

The steering wheel animation and movement is so much more realistic in Gran Turismo and I'm kind of disappointed that Forza still hasn't adopted this realistic and quick moving steering wheel. Makes it feel disconnected from the actual car.

[@dr.kostakious3370]

I cannot really decide, both are great games with pros and cons, I'd play them both and appreciate them for their beauty and not really pick one over the other

[@microteam4]

That's the spirit

[@Corny1210]

Great take

[@Thorfinn0607]

motorsport 2023 is a great game?

[@dr.kostakious3370]

@@Thorfinn0607 It’s definitely not perfect, but it’s nice to play it casually after a long day of uni lessons. It ain’t no FM4 though…

[@maniac4658]

Exactly, fanboys defending one plastic box over the other doesn't make sense. At the end of the day, if you have fun playing it then it's good. Period.

[@NOWAXWORKS]

At this rate, if Forza were to feature a moon stage like GT6, let there be no doubt that Turn10 would add as many trees as possible.

[@FedericoFroebel-dw4je]

You're just mad that FM has a higher level of detail on this track.

[@VariantAEC]

​@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je Most of the detail in GT7 goes towards the realworld track obituaries, which FM23 decided to replace with... writing that doesn't exist irl.

[@GREENY_SO]

@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je More trees ≠ higher level of detail

[@FedericoFroebel-dw4je]

​@@GREENY_SOFM has higher level of detail in everything: trees, track detail, etc. But let me remind you the Nordschleife is 99% trees ;)

[@FedericoFroebel-dw4je]

​@@VariantAECGT7 still looks bad with those fake billboard trees, no matter how you try to flip it

[@real_Zuramaru]

forza: *adds a bunch of nonexistent details on the tracks*

[@Jare_Jaralho]

Show some of this details

[@udontknowme1654]

​​​@@Jare_Jaralho Those are a bunch of flags, uncommon places of tents and crowds, inaccurate graffiti on the road, and a bunch of apex lights at night (that's all so far)

[@XBOXisWeakAF]

forza looks like cartoon mobile game lol

[@EarthBatTV]

Could you do a comparison between FM7 and the new FM. They said they rescanned the entire track and I want to see if it's true

[@MotoGamesTV]

I will, but I can already tell you that they didn't www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/1arbu6a/nordschleife_copied_the_same_wrong_curbs_of_fm7/

[@AutomotiveVP]

Not trying to plugging here, Just 100% all they have done is change the texture, already working on the evidence and video.

[@FedericoFroebel-dw4je]

​@@AutomotiveVP"not trying to plugging here" of course you are. You have an entire YT channel 100% dedicated to hate Forza Motorsport. You always cherry pick anything that may seem negative while omitting all the things that are great in FM. You have admitted yourself to be a GT7 fanatic, but you take it too far with this imaginary "battle"

[@VariantAEC]

@FedericoFroebel-dw4je Proving Forza hype is all an orchestrated show. All your comments are clearly wrong, but they have 3-6 likes even after being just posted. How is that even statistically possible? It isn't. We see through it.

[@KikuraKun]

​@@FedericoFroebel-dw4jeTake it what you will. BFTGU game is still a sh*t game. A lie

[@davethebaron]

Why is every car sound in FM8 so watered down?

[@rickywilliams-g3n]

forza looks like it was captured without a filter on and GT7 looks like they put an poliarized filter over the lens giving more clarity. both look amazing , i LOVE GT7 forza looks to be a bit more "alive". The car sounds a little more raw in forza (oddly enough as GT7 cars usually sound much better this time around) the track looks a little more true to life in GT7 but both have good visual representation. The only thing you cant tell is how the cars feel across all of the surfaces and elevation changes.

[@ark14700]

Unfortunately the P1 sounds a bit fake in FM, especially for the cockpit view

[@4thManonCross]

So in other words you had to use street sport soft tyres on the p1 in GT7 to compensate for the inaccuracy of Forza's tyre model not being able to match the realistic simulation of Gt7 with racing soft which is comparable to real life...... I get you

[@H3llfire320]

Doesn't the P1 gtr come with race tyres?

[@dargis49]

What are you even talking about?

[@4thManonCross]

@@dargis49 read the pinned comment or video description that moto games left on this video

[@iPh1l1pp]

They placed far too many tents and spectators at positions where nobody should be standing except flag marshals.

[@dargis49]

Did they? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rl7aaZqAhZJsfcUsi=tee2uC-D7ypH3doz

[@joekorsan8425]

The sound sounds flat in FM like there’s no dept to the engine, but that’s just my opinion.

[@alqilae8733]

i get what you mean, but gt7 sounds like it was recorded in a chamber or something

[@joekorsan8425]

@@alqilae8733 I can see that lol

[@tonivaisman5493]

You can feel the speed in Forza, more then in Gt ( My opinion)

[@michaelvelez6699]

By the FOV i think the game have between 90 to 100 in GT7 can have between 75 to 60.

[@michaelvelez6699]

In that we need to see what FOV are setted

[@felipeazcoaga91]

you didn't played gt7 for sure

[@BillyProGamer31]

​@@felipeazcoaga91He says it's his opinion, PS fanboy

[@tonivaisman5493]

In Gt7, it looks as if the car is standing in the same place, and the track is moving, while in the Forza the speed is increasing, you literally feel it. Maybe I'm the only one who sees it that way.

[@TheProfessorJunior]

4:45

[@elazotacunaos4752]

Delaying this track in Forza just to recycle it from the previous game. Some people are confusing placing more random objects throughout the track with detail and realism. It's okay for an arcade like Grid, but not for a "sim".

[@dargis49]

This looks nothing like Forza 7 nurburgring. There's a ton more detail on track and on the side of the track. Get your eyes checked

[@elazotacunaos4752]

@@dargis49, that's why I pointed out "placing more random objects".

[@HikariSakai]

is it just me or forza looks faster in terms of sense of speed?

[@jiska111111111111111]

Yes different fov. But iracing is the worst its like looking 5x rifle scope or something

[@shakengandulf]

The sense of speed is over the top. Looks like your going 180kmh when doing 100kmh.

[@jiska111111111111111]

@@shakengandulf it just depends on the fov. Want speed or better overview and view ahead. Should be adjustable

[@HikariSakai]

@@jiska111111111111111 FOV is adjustable in Forza unless you meant GT

[@namesii1880]

@@jiska111111111111111 You can change your fov in iRacing too lol. But people generally run lower to recreate a more realistic feel.

[@UknownDriver]

I don’t know what looks better or looks more realistic but the sense of speed is really good in Forza. Hopefully it comes to PS5 one day

[@olavofernandes7286]

GT7 version of nordsllife is realistic

[@XboxStation-xh8cw]

​@@olavofernandes7286the FM version is the most updated.

[@thenuvolari9834]

You are the first person I heard would like FM23 on PS5 lol, no offense tho

[@UknownDriver]

@@thenuvolari9834haha well, I would like to experience it and if Forza comes to PS5 that means the next Horizon will also comes to PS5 because we need more open world racing games. Looking forward to TDU SC

[@FedericoFroebel-dw4je]

​@@olavofernandes7286no is not. Looks like a (outdated) game. FM looks like real life

[@mmuttt]

forza car sound is so unrealistic even the dash screen of p1 doesn't look like anything like that tree replacement is so random and second kreuser(idk how to speel it) is so different from irl and much more feels like fake nurburgring from rfactor 1

[@kiyoshisan9425]

I love the sense of speed in Forza but the rest GT>>>

[@kami3877]

I'm incredulous how much more beautiful the FM is, you realize that the physics of the cars are superior and the depth of the map the textures and modeling of the map are better and the main thing is the global lighting, the turn10 engine is very good at the level of unreal engine...

[@SaJInonSinonSniperBreakinLove]

個人的にグランツーリスモが良いですね。 ケーニグセグがグランツーリスモに収録されたら物凄く興奮しそうですね（？？？）

[@D3Vlicious]

Forza's somehow looks like FM7's version but with new textures representing the latest graffiti on the track, but overall it feels more like the same geometry from that game.

[@Snerkler1]

I think the scenery and track look better on Forza, the car looks better on GT7. GT7 looks slightly more ‘cartoony’ with its over saturation. I’m a PS5 user with GT7, never played Forza.

[@maynardburger]

Weird shift, cuz Forza used to always get criticized for having oversaturated 'stylized' look to it compared to GT. Forza corrects on this big-time and goes for a purely natural look and of course people still complain about it(not saying you, just others). I think in many ways, there's just so many GT fans out there who will always find a way to put down Forza.

[@henkstols9326]

I believe Forza will be the finished product in about 6 months, its already getting better and the Nurburgring addition has improved it vastly. Comparing it to Gt7 is always nice to see but they 2 different approaches to simcades, Forza has always been about driving and atmosphere and GT is mostly realism. I will say the GT fans struggle to admit that Forza can be very good at times and even in this video seems very realistic and alive.

[@HandlesSuck123]

I don't think anyone struggles to admit that Forza can be good, its problem is that it isn't consistently good. Forza's highs are right up there with what GT offers, but its lows are really low.

[@KainSanders]

Agreed

[@xanderoerlemans5933]

I like playing forza now but the car upgrading system is really bad and it crashes sometimes the graphics look at bit weird but the physics are really satisfying

[@rosaria8384]

Disagree.

[@ace20016]

Forza Motorsport version of the Nordschleife look more detail than Gran Turismo 7 version. But there is a problem with the FM version though. Too many trees! So I’m not incline to say Forza Motorsport’s version clears over Gran Turismo’s version. I would say it’s a tie between both. -Gran Turismo player

[@olavofernandes7286]

Actually gran turismo 7 is accurate

[@dargis49]

Gt7 only wins in lighting. That's it! Forza is better everywhere else on this track

[@olavofernandes7286]

@@dargis49 nope its not now 😢

[@KainSanders]

I like both games. And Forza and gt7 has flaws and pluses.

[@imt558delux]

​ Nope. Nurb is more accurate in GT7. even graffiti on the track aren't so accurate in Forza as it is in GT7

[@derrickbarnes8122]

Forza has good lighting on the track and environment, but why do the cars look like they’re glowing or plastic!? Despite not having ray tracing, GT7 cars look like a generational leap past Forza.

[@HamzaSaleem-ez6dl]

Also compare ams2 vs fm nordscheife

[@williamsuharja29]

I don't think rl Nordschleife could be that crowded like in Forza lol

[@M5BLLHM]

its crowded in track days and wec < endu race

[@JR-mh8uq]

@@M5BLLHMDie WEC fährt nicht auf der Nordschleife und solche Fahnen und sonstigen Quatsch gibt es dort in Wahrheit nicht.

[@ShojiYoon-nt7uo]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4momq2oq9uVpM0si=ZecjzJwiJM1r6s76

[@markusl1306]

Am ende muss man die Balance aus RL und was der Nutzer will realisieren. Und forza hat sich die letzten Jahre mehr dem jüngeren Publikum zugewandt. Ich finde diese Art mit Zelten, Begalos und Horizonflair ok. Würde auch gerne die PS5 ins Haus holen, leider brauche ich dann eine neue Fanatecbase. Und das wird mir zuviel Arbeit mit umbauen. Beide Varianten haben ihren Flair, ich bin auf ACC gespannt wie es da aussehen wird

[@JR-mh8uq]

@@markusl1306 Ich weiß ja nicht welche Fanatec Base du hast, ich kann meine für PS5, XBox und PC nutzen, ich benötige für die Xbox lediglich ein anderes Lenkrad.

[@lYDKMlGTHTKY]

The colors looks on forza much more realistic to me. GT always looks like someone payed to much on the color saturation. So that it always look like the tele tubbie land

[@mcrgrooves]

Looks like they rotate on a centre axis and its the track thats moving in the rear view at the start

[@MacGarenRS]

Graphic > GT7 Physical > Motorsport

[@bagusaditya7599]

why sound very unrealistic in forza and the car always spitting fire ? 😅

[@michaeljimenez8784]

It’s a dragon inside

[@christtel1484]

Assetto corsa p1 gtr sounds exactly the same as forza and funny enough has lots of backfires. Kunos did a good job with their product soIm not mad

[@ManuelOrbeaOtaola]

I would say just on car lighting and rendering GT7 has the leap. Rest forza

[@B-A-L]

What is your opinion on the trees?

[@rockwellpatterson6646]

One is a colorful cartoon (almost cell-shade) and then other is plutonic.

[@laurentlaurent-og7mh]

gt7 best 100%

[@gabrieltenguan4470]

​@@B-A-Lfuck the trees, they're the least important element on a racing game

[@ronkie15]

I like Forza lighting more because it’s more realistic I get polyphony wanted a anime feel to the game but I prefer the more realistic approach as far as the lighting and coloring

[@GREENY_SO]

GT7 is obviously better, but the contrast is better in Forza, the areas in the shade in GT7 are way too dark, especially the trees, for example at 6:28 the dark areas in Forza are more realistic. With that said, I think this time of day and weather always looks dull even in games with good graphics, I'm curious to see how they look in different time and weather. Also, is Forza using the normal P1 dashboard?

[@abnerramos7797]

GT7 💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@BURZT_YT]

The fm car looks like a plastic toycar💀

[@mgsan4702]

From $ store 😢

[@admittedbeast1596]

and gt7 looks like a old ps game and not as realistic when it comes to graphics like look at the colours from both games forza looks way better

[@BURZT_YT]

@@admittedbeast1596 1. It looks better in HDR 2. They didn't try to go for ultra realistic graphics, they have there own graphics style / art style 3. This is not even close to a PS3 game, u make it sound like u have never seen a PS3 game in your life

[@gamingeuphoria7928]

Lmaooo if gt looks liek a old game then forza is looks even worst because digitsl foundry shows other wise... lmaooo clown​@admittedbeast1596

[@BURZT_YT]

@@gamingeuphoria7928 fr

[@Codebylanre]

Great Content man, i know a lot of work went into this cause it is a very solid content!!!

[@ChimaeraCarnage]

Both look equally great in their own right tbh

[@zaentyt837]

One is accurate, the other is not. Enough said

[@rosaria8384]

One isn't right in every aspect

[@MrAndersie91]

Why does the brightness seem to be set to 175% and the contrast set to 50% in Forza?? 🤷🏻‍♂️ It looks so soo washed out & the colours look "faded"...

[@MotoGamesTV]

It would be great if you could tell me where I can find those settings in the game, because I only see brightness and it's actually set to 0.40.

[@MrAndersie91]

@@MotoGamesTV I literally have no idea.. Havent played Forza since Forza 3 lol, but any video i have watched of this "ground up" Forza, they are all the same, poor colouring & washed out/faded

[@MotoGamesTV]

Well, that's how Turn 10 did this Forza.

[@henkstols9326]

​@@MrAndersie91I see the colour as more accurate to real life then GT7 intense colours which make it look like NFS from 2012.

[@MrAndersie91]

@@henkstols9326 Wouldnt say the colours are more accurate in Forza compared to GT7.. Polyphony Digital are a lot more orientated at being accurate & correct with their detailing and replication In Forza the colours all seem washed out, and at various points the track, in direct sunlight, appears to (nearly) go very light grey, if not white..

[@rokiller9110]

You only have to see second 0:09-0:11 to understand why Gran Turismo have more accurate tracks, look at the kerbs, 2 meter tall kerbs on forza

[@Blas4ublasphemy]

It's like I'm seeing double, four Nordschleife circuits!

[@twosawyers]

I keep hearing the accuracy of gt7 yet I’m looking at almost the to absences of road markings GT 7 in comparison to FM.

[@Mitch2k93]

Because the markings are faked. They add details that don't exist in real life

[@R4M_Tommy]

More =/= more accurate.

[@evilformerlys4704]

There's because the track had been resurfaced since 2005, most of those markings haven't been there in almost 10 years.

[@rosaria8384]

The road markings in FM are questionable at best

[@abaeta]

Really? Cockpit camera to show the track and enviroment?

[@diewolfv.h1538]

Gaudy

[@giothestupidass4136]

It's the sole purpose of comparison videos

[@speedgoat7496]

Reason I don’t play Forza, is the bubbling water sound when you corner. What is that about? Turn10 please fix this you don't know how bad this is at making the game look and sound broken.

[@05DonnieB]

Tires??

[@flame_101]

You mean the curbs? That's how it sounds like irl and both games

[@speedgoat7496]

​@@05DonnieB Yeah tires screeching just sounds so wrong, immersion breaking.

[@speedgoat7496]

@@flame_101 Yeah tires screeching just sounds so wrong, immersion breaking.

[@xero6774]

bro doesn't know that tires make sound when you drive at 120 mph

[@D_LGND]

I was always wondering why the Nordschleife felt off in FM7 compared to GT, ig I wasn’t the only one who noticed

[@giveaway6314]

Do comparison with real footage. Probably both games track are a bit outdated now

[@Haroldzomber]

en el minuto 1:45 miren los arboles de la Derecha del GT 7 se nota que le cuesta a la consola cargar esos detalles

[@BillyProGamer31]

Es normal que pase, además, tu no estarás viendo los árboles mientras conduces...

[@devinpagan2731]

Is this car worth getting in GT7?

[@joe74509migo]

Yes, it is exciting to drive. Also, one of the Hypercar trio to collect: La Ferrari, Porsche 918, McLaren P1

[@KikuraKun]

​@@joe74509migoIdk if I remember, didn't Porsche built a track variant of a 918? LaFerrari and P1 had them. It seems Porsche didn't built one.

[@jiska111111111111111]

​@@KikuraKun918 RSR stayed in like prototype phase

[@ronkie15]

Idk if it’s the best car I got but I do like driving it

[@synek03]

Interior lighting looks so unrealistic in GT7. Drive a car in sunny day and you'll see, it's too dark.

[@olavofernandes7286]

Sun's position

[@synek03]

@@olavofernandes7286 drive a real car and you'll see how looks sun's position in real life

[@andrewnessy8810]

Se nota que FM esta más detallado, parece más estrecho el circuito pero cuando corres varias veces ya no lo parece.

[@petemaddox1716]

Just wondering how many the people banging on about accuracy have driven the circuit in real life?

[@evilformerlys4704]

They can compare videos taken from in car collection and use that. It's not that hard, so care to insert the other foot in your mouth?

[@petemaddox1716]

@@evilformerlys4704 wow didn't know watching stuff on the internet made you a prominent expert on something, thanks for the info 👍

[@Takhrod]

stop cocksucking midza midsport

[@rosaria8384]

There's just tons of evidence that point out to how wrong Forza is. Lots of people have already driven and shared their experience.

[@rockwellpatterson6646]

GT7 is truly the best overall driving simulator. Xbox has always been for kix n shiggles

[@FILNAT2011]

Doing my ocd in, the difference in the dashboards read outs

[@antaresstrigon]

FM, usa menos brillo en el coche, por la suciedad al correr este mismo (Coche), en GT7 no se genera tal acción en carretera, por lo del ambiente, en FM es más real en los colores, ya que si se fijan bien en los árboles en la vida real usan un verde más apagado y no tan verdoso como lo muestra el GT7, para destacar hay que tener en cuenta que GT7 usa más oscuridad para ahorrar memoria en gráficos, en cambio FM usa más luz para usar más gráficos, ya que la Xbox Series se lo permite, esto lo pueden notar en las carreras de noche, GT7 se queda con carreras más oscuras y menos focos (Según esto, sería real), en cambio FM coloca focos de luz en las carreras, para mostrar más el coche y así usar mas graficos en sombras y luz. Creo que en esta parte es una tontería juzgar un juego como el FM por colocar focos en algunas carreras, lo encuentro mucho mejor, así muestra más tiempo el coche que se usa. Los 2 juegos son buenos en su aspecto propio, pero hay que seguir esperando hasta las ultimas updates para recién tener claro cuál es el mejor, GT7 aun le faltan updates, y FM recien salio, así que le falta mucho pulir con las updates. Saludos.

[@kotarojujo2737]

2d tree with accurate placement > 3d tree but incorrectly placed and make it denser

[@Shadowb4n]

From the looks FM looks much prettier, got real summer trackday vibes. Regarding track difference both of these seem lackluster in comparison to AC...

[@iPh1l1pp]

But Forza is not bad. But is overtuned. To much stuff. Higher tress. Looks more than real.

[@B-A-L]

How come the trees are different?

[@mrebear9758]

Because Turn 10 couldn't be bothered putting accurate ones in.

[@simonsiderrien2509]

Moins stable sur Forza motorsport 😮

[@のーまるぱーそん]

Forzaは色褪せすぎだしGT7は彩度高すぎだけど、森の感じがForzaは本当に森の中にある感じだけど、GT7はただ単にコース脇に木が並んでるだけって感じがする でも路面の質感は圧倒的にGT7の方が上だな

[@dargis49]

Can't believe I'm saying it. Even though Forza still looks washed out as hell. Forza wins this battle. Track is much more alive in Forza.

[@olavofernandes7286]

Nope it does not

[@barebarekun161]

If alive meant adding stuff that not supposed to be there on and around the track, then Forza just lost it. They tried to put FH5 festive treatment on the track, and it looks ridiculous.

[@abuelb]

​@@barebarekun161you know what looks ridiculous? GT7 cockpit action cam😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5fZpHyqjb6asM0si=5bpzaJLD6kbEVC9y

[@ailabyuhphage08]

yeah sure more alive but less accurate IRL: Nurburgring was infamously called "Green Hell" or "The Graveyard" for some reason. The Turn 10 comes and turned it into Nurburgerkingring lol

[@bpowick]

Although Turn10 tends to add elements to tracks that aren’t there in real life, I do like that Forza’s tracks feel a bit more lively than GT’s because of it. They’re both ridiculously good looking games though and I’m lucky enough to be able to play both of them.

[@lexxro87]

Honestly, no. I played both games and GT7 is far better then Forza, i was shocked how bad Forza was graphic wise and not to mention the physics. A friend who only played Forza and never GT was completly shocked how good GT was compeared to Forza. I was expecting way more than that from Turn10 but lets see what they will do in a year or so.

[@bpowick]

@@lexxro87 Each to their own. I play both regularly and think both are great looking and fun to play in their own rights.

[@中村智之-l9v]

It is necessary to add normal p1 to gt7

[@diofelles]

I started out with GT1 on PS1 and played all of them up to GT4, and then switched to Xbox360 and Forza pretty much all the way up to FM6, but I have to say GT7 looks head and shoulders above FM7. One personal gripe I have about all of the FM games is they look and feel more "arcadey" in my opinion, and in this case something about the camera angle (in the chase cam) and/or blurring effects makes me feel like Turn 10 is trying to amp up the sensation of speed artificially. Also not a fan of the washed out look, but to each their own.

[@ki2y]

I've never attacked with a real car, so I can't judge which one is faithful to reality other than the video. Which one is actually real?

[@th3orist]

honestly wtf is with these colors in FM???? what are the artists thinking also forza getting a lot of the curbs wrong and dont get me even started on tree placement. i almost crashed because i got so confused where i was due to how different everything looked after taking certain corners compared to real life and other sims.

[@Massacre2jz.]

You don't dare to put a video playing in real time in forza and in GT, you put the replay so that GT tries to look the same as forza since forza uses ray tracing in both lights and audio and GT can't

[@MotoGamesTV]

Good thing that both games were played in performance mode.

[@Massacre2jz.]

@@MotoGamesTV You don't fool me, I have forza and it doesn't look like you show it in your videos, live it looks infinitely better,

[@MotoGamesTV]

And this P1 GTR sound is 100% realistic, all thanks to ray traced audio.

[@imt558delux]

​ Ray tracing on track doesn’t mean it has ray tracing audio. FM 2023 doesn’t have it

[@Massacre2jz.]

@@imt558delux Know before you respond

[@legendagamer]

In one hand, Gran Turismo 7 presents better visual quality in terms of car models (both interiors and exteriors), a better balance of colors and contrast, more realistic circuits in terms of representation, and better physics and car reactions. Obviously, the driving sensation in Gran Turismo 7 is also much better. On the other hand, Forza Motorsport has better sound, better ambient geometry, higher vegetation density, and overall, better graphics at the scenery level. I also prefer the sensation of speed and camera angle here.

[@kristianangeloni]

Better sound? Have you listened some comparison? They're butchering cars like the GMA T.50bor the Valkyrie. And in general, all post-launch cars sounds bad or mid at their best

[@ACGustaf]

Yeah even forza horizon is getting repetitive with the sound design new cars looks like they’re reusing existing sound models when playing Beamng i somewhat started to like the tire screeching sounds when powersliding not bad for a indie game its pretty well blended with the engine sound

[@legendagamer]

@@kristianangeloni I have both games

[@henrik5299]

​@@legendagamerNah dude you just can't say forza has better sounds, that's not true ...

[@AwesomeOne1086]

​@@kristianangeloniyou're absolutly right. FM don't sounds better at all. When I Heard the sound of the lengendary 787B in FM I was like WTF🤦🏽‍♂️ And all these flames give arcade vibes not sim racing.

[@MockingCat]

Gran Turismo has more vivid colors and a clearer image.

[@dainco08]

Forza more realistic and sense of speed.

[@pmayo7894]

Arguably, GT7's sense of speed is more realistic: important when tacking the corners.

[@iPh1l1pp]

0:22 Car Lighting is criminal good on GT7. Forza otherwise has higher track Details. But to much stuff out the track.

[@vyasrushi5177]

Higher tree density, not track details...both are very different things....GT7 absolutely dog walks FM if you pause and actually look at the details

[@jiska111111111111111]

Tbh not at all, hate the blinding huge gloom effect. FH5 had so sexy crisp sun reflection

[@jonasfermefors]

What really matters to me is how the handling feels - and I don't know which I would prefer there - but visually and even more audibly I prefer FM. GT looks and sound way more arcade-like to me.

[@markthegamedriver]

Forza looks like a gane from 2013

[@Stefy-8OO]

It dose not look good bur bruh "a game from 2013" i wanna se a game from that year that dose look better

[@markthegamedriver]

@@Stefy-8OO gta 5 older forza horizon

[@admittedbeast1596]

cap forza looks way better

[@norra0001]

Forza Motorsport look like we're looking from a gopro with a large FOV. It make the distance between the car and things in front of us inaccurate. We're condemn to play on first person if we want accurate field of view.

[@Massacre2jz.]

Why do you put the GT in replay mode? You should play gameplay in real-time and not put replays

[@jokerbrazil1]

This video is the same as comparing 2 televisions from different brands and one of them without calibrating the colors, brightness and saturation. I'm sure that if you configure it properly, you'll notice that Forza has better vegetation and richer details. But I've always liked the photo realism of granturismo , The car's bodywork really looks like TIN and not plastic

[@FranceIsPropertyofEngland]

Do the team at GT watch on board footage of actual GT racing. Do they understand racing cars sound agressive and loud, not like a buch of hair driers and hoovers.

[@318ci]

Well Forza lied again, there is curbs missing for example at 0:23 on the right side, just recycled trash. I feel sorry for everyone who bought this piece of shit game

[@dargis49]

I feel sorry for people who argue over video games on the internet like a fucking 12-year-old?

[@henkstols9326]

If you on Xbox system we play this as part of our subscription, has Sony let the PS people play GT7 since day one as well?

[@318ci]

@@dargis49 well still better than having a fat head of a 40 year old stuck onto the body of a toddler.

[@eugenelombard960]

Bwahahahaha. Nice try.

[@Keanu-p2j]

It’s one curb bro?

[@Ultra-Lightning]

Somehow they’re going the same speed yet gt looks very slow and stiff. Graphics wise its much better but I wish they let us have more sense of speed

[@danglesnipecelly13]

I just got a PlayStation basically to start playing GT7 it blows Forza away by a mile.

[@JasonB72481]

Both did a great job, this one I'm gonna give to Forza. The sunlight just looks far more realistic and the world looks imperfectly lived in. The saturation levels in GT are just too high. And the curbs look perfectly brand new, except for the occasional tire rub near the base of the curb. Forza's curbs have dirt and grime. The both did the interiors really well, they are slightly different models, so you can't really go like for like. I just don't know why in an open environment, that GT's McLaren sounds like it's in a tunnel. Again, both are great representations, and if you have either game, you won't be missing out. Great job by the developers. Great video comparison.👍

[@vyasrushi5177]

GT7 = 100% authentic to real life FM = add unnecessary trees and track side objects that aren't present in real life to fool kids into thinking it has more details 😂 Let's not even go into textures, sky boxes, lighting, car models, cause it's an easy win GT7

[@alexpanameno8450]

LMAO GT is everything else except 100% authenthic to real life, is more like 60% i dont see any pro driver using gt to be more competitive or training in this GAME to master a real life track , stop dreaming dude

[@imt558delux]

Nope. GT7 is far more accurate in everything. As Digital Foundry pointed that out nicely

[@retrogames3404]

GT always....💥🏆

[@felipeazcoaga91]

GT7 is a 9.5 game, any forza game can barely hit a 7. GT7 its better in every aspect, Forza is just generic bs focused only on graphics, and even, GT7 has better graphics tho

[@filipbieniek9323]

i believe that if forza had the same colour pallet as gt7 it would look way better, it looks washed up but it's not horrendous.

[@simracer792]

I wonder how different iracing and grand turismo, i never play grand turismo,

[@IsraelSocial]

i dont have play station only pc so points to forza

[@Dave20VT]

The gearbox is to loud in fm8

[@Exobator]

Forza the car moves sucks. It goes through all the turns sideways.

[@esplayerr]

GT 7

[@abnerramos7797]

My game favorite. GT7 The best realistc ❤💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@serial2663]

cars: GT7 environment: FM shading: GT7

[@markuskdk9445]

Tor wtlyglada bardzo podobnie ale Forza ma lepsze szczegóły otoczenia

[@z4520ft]

I have experience with both. Personally, in isolation they're doing the good job representing the track in their own way. FM never claim it to be real driving simulator so it's OK to add some 'spices' so that it will be enjoyable by console gamers. GT is closer to real life, can't deny the fact that their boss is also a pro racer and photographer so in some ways, it's better than Forza.

[@clive0494]

wow their boss is racer and photographer?

[@z4520ft]

@@clive0494 look up kazunori yamauchi. There's even documentary how gran Turismo started

[@rosaria8384]

​@@clive0494 yep, Kazunori Yamauchi actually raced in the Nurburgring 24 hours endurance, which just tells how much experience he has with the Ring.

[@michaeluhrmann9347]

The engine Sound in gt7 is more realistic ❤

[@BlackjackK7X]

GT7 makes FM look like its a generation behind lol

[@Cooperyan95]

Forza look like to video on cam, but only 3d model of car say for you "hey it's a game" in GT better 3D models of cars, forza is crying

[@abuelb]

Gt7 action cam cockpit view😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5fZpHyqjb6asM0si=5bpzaJLD6kbEVC9y

[@Shifty_Malone]

Do y'all wear sunglasses in Forza?

[@24hoursofSPA_Doge]

I do for gt7