Fossil Fuel Evil Is Ending the future

[@danwatson171]

I work in steel fabrication and none of my coworkers consider topics beyond sports, cars, boats or tattoos. I’m the weird one for looking beyond the silos there, but knowing calamity is only one strong El Niño away makes interacting together a more precious memory before the hunger games turns cannibal

[@SandraWade666]

I can relate. I'm always posting about this stuff on my fb page and ppl don't interact. They're all acting like everything is normal. Partying like it's 1999

[@brooksschneider3441]

Agreed. My family and friends have let me know in no uncertain terms that they don't want to hear any of this. To put it bluntly, most people don't give a rat's ass.

[@Stupidityindex]

Right-wing radio is still doing climate denial among talking points & rural people buy religious nonsense too.

[@Jibbolino]

I'm a vegan, don't own a car and limit my flying with carbon-fueled jets to extreme necessities/emergencies. I've lost ALL hope in humanity. We will go down, squabbling about everything and nothing. In the end we will be squabbling about the distribution of scarce food and water resources. We will be fighting over the last morsels of food just before we breathe our final breaths. But, I salute you greatly, Peter, for being an excellent messenger for the world during our downfall. Thank you.

[@mrrecluse7002]

This is called "Doomerism." I just call it the ever obvious reality. You might be interested in the Fermi Paradox, and Great Filter theory. This mess we have created may be a common phenomenon, among civilizations, throughout the galaxies.

[@EmeraldView]

I'm sorry. I wish we could have been better (as a whole - many individuals are wonderful people).

[@greenhearted8453]

@@EmeraldView I like to share my thought that it's not the human species (think babies, think Indigenous peoples), it's the dominant (EuroAmerican) economic system (now pretty much globalized) that is doing us in. That way, we don't have to (as you point out) hate the whole human race.

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@Frisco_Kid You won't save the world, but you will learn things of value that will last a lifetime.

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@EmeraldView Your mother is also wonderful. It doesn't matter. We blew it. We didn't give enough of a damn about the non-human world. People just assumed it had nothing to do with us. We thought that view put us in the driver's seat, so we could just abuse everything else around, and use up everything else around, to our hearts content. But nature "bats last."

[@bjlyon615]

Even if we weren’t facing extinction level climate change, the fact that we use resources faster than nature can replenish them is bound to do us in.

[@poigmhahon]

There is so much destruction of entire ecosystems, degradation of habitat for all life...rampant and wanton waste of resources....this will not end well, and I believe it's happening a lot faster than people understand. When a system is degraded past a certain point the entire system collapses all at once.

[@mrrecluse7002]

Pick 4 from column A, and 3 from column B.

[@EmeraldView]

Humanity is screwed six ways to Sunday.

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@EmeraldView I found seven.

[@EvolutionWendy]

it's interesting that the California snowpack is acting I like the polar ice, to keep our area temps mild. A sober reminder of how essential the ice caps are and what stupid fools we are to watch them melt.

[@sukhdevjohal9053]

Just give it up Peter just enjoy the time that remains

[@greenhearted8453]

It'll soon come to that for all of us.

[@SeventhCircleID]

As an Architect, hearing your comments on the heat bath effect in cities is a welcome addition to the climate debate, it is a serious concern where even now cities such as London are routinely between 5° and 10°C warmer than less dense greener areas outside (and London is pretty green as cities go), the accumulation of dense materials such as concrete means an astonishingly high volumetric capacity for energy which in turn means eyewatering amounts of energy being retained in structures for each additional degree of air temperature outside, all of which is very hard to get rid of. There are a number of clear negative social impacts that are caused by higher temperatures in dense urban spaces beyond higher mortality rates for heat stroke, general intolerance and increases in violent crime for example, increases in airborne pollution another, higher temperature rainfall runoff another, and it forces us to need to expend resources not only for heating spaces, but also in cooling them (which just as with heating, the poorest of our society are ill able to afford, they are the people who are most likely to live in denser city conditions). These are really complex problems which we don't have any scalable solutions for yet, and whilst we try and figure out solutions the construction industry continues at pace, finding ways to increase the density ever further year on year. Thank you for a great talk.

[@wobblybobengland]

London is an irrelevance

[@Newt0rz]

The increase in violent crime is especially a worry for me as you can fully expect opportunistic politicians to use it as an excuse for further clamping down on our right to protest.

[@EvolutionWendy]

Dr Peter I'm always so grateful to hear what you have to say. I eat vegan, drive as little as I can, never travel, and almost everything I own came from a thrift store so I don't consume new resources.

[@SpeedyCorky]

did you have a child ?

[@garyhoover9750]

Wendy, we are kindred spirits.

[@carnaud]

@@SpeedyCorky Even humanity needs fresh to stock to perpetuate itself…many cultures are facing population collapse because they aren’t having children.

[@Kiyarose3999]

Veganism is not a diet ( what we ‘’eat’’) it is a way of living that seeks to avoid harm to animals in all aspects of our lives, including clothing, ‘entertainment’, ‘sport’, cosmetics, etc etc. what you are talking about is a Plant Based Diet!

[@christinearmington]

Bravo ✅

[@michaelwilliams4677]

Michael Moore was lambasted for his film Planet of The Humans but its central message that consumption must be drastically curtailed seems indisputable to me. How can this happen?

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Michael Moore, like Ralph Nader, was "lambasted" 30 years ago for overworking his employees - it was a NY Magazine expose article. Then remember when Michael Moore pleaded for Ralph Nader NOT to run for President? The environmentalists and activists are constantly blamed - if not assassinated - just as native indigenous people are told to "Make a Choice!" haha. It's hilarious that the ecological crisis was caused by radical environmentalists not properly "marketing themselves"!! Corporate culture teaches us that we must "commodify" our "dissent." hahaha.

[@markrobinowitz8473]

Fossil fuels are finite. Now that they've peaked, depletion is likely the main way consumption will be curtailed, although this won't be voluntary (or imposed by governments).

[@brentsummers7377]

And in Australia at the start of June 2023: 'Sydney’s Saturday forecast of 22C is five degrees above average, while Adelaide’s top of 23C is seven degrees above its June average.' Here we go....

[@mrrecluse7002]

Yeah. You're off to the races.

[@sirierieott5882]

And that is your winter! OMG… good luck.

[@spacemonkey-yj7ss]

and the south Australian goverment has legislated that anyone who protests, and disrupts traffic will be thrown in jail. direct response to extinction rebellions disruption strategy

[@martinhd28v1]

In Canada where I live we had an unseasonable heatwave a couple of weeks ago that lasted for about a week. Since then though, temperatures have dipped to well below seasonal averages for this time of year and daily temperatures have been a couple of degrees below the weather channels predicted highs for the day, which themselves were a couple of degrees below seasonal averages for the time. It's funny how no one makes a big deal out of unseasonable cooler temperatures but overreact when it's a little hotter than normal and declare it's evidence of anthropomorphic climate change.

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@martinhd28v1 What counts is the planetary trend, which continues heating up, on average, at breakneck speed, compared to the past. That is what matters. Nothing else.

[@johnglavis2358]

As one of the organizers of the first EarthDay back in 1970 at Kent State U., my personal 53-year journey since has transformed from outraged political activism into a sacred surrender to the shamanic perspective. I have had the great priviledge to have been guided by remarkable indigenous teachers, both human and otherwise. They inform me that the focus of our revolution must be within, a self-directed recalibration towards the realization that we are each our own planet, with our body's cellular communities impeccably organ-I-zed into a living ecology of singularly, with its own rushing rivers, high mountainous plains and virgin rainforests of the heart. We must start there, on the path not traveled, making the solo vision-quest to those most secret and sacred lands. There our native peoples sing for us, and .make ceremony while awaiting our long lost return... For this, we must forgive the American Dream. We found that we had to be asleep to believe it was real. There is little we can do now to avert the radical consequences unleased, and it may be wiser to imagine ourselves free, as voluntary refugees, willing to heed the clarion call of the Great Mystery, to serve suffering hue-manity by beckoning the love evident in the still small yet increasing eternal voice, to hold true through the pace of unimaginable systemic break-down, and the creative power unleashed by love's turbulence. Let's update the 60's cultural classic, "Be Here Now" with a 21st century theme. Let's call it... "We. Here. Now." and maybe add Kipling's poem "If"...while we're at it. For inspiration look no further than the latest Webb images, or into the eyes of an elder of few years, still twinkling, as you learn to love the one you're with.. Or when, like Charlie Brown, pondering your fate... "You know Snoopy, one day we're gonna die.".. Snoopy smiled... "Yes.... but all the rest we will be alive " Indeed... ☆Here's to the living. To the loving. To the miracles ahead. Meet you at the crossroad for a picnic, and some good music, and dancing... Fear cannot survive our dance.. ♡

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Wow just a week before...the military massacre? May 4, 1970; 53 years ago; 12:24 p.m. ... Deaths: 4 Injured: 9.

[@Ben-j3n]

As a recent(ish) KSU alum, I salute you!

[@JaseboMonkeyRex]

Climate change has always been a symptom of overshoot, and overshoot is an effect of a culture that has commodified nature ... To reduce emissions is not a technical challenge, it's a cultural one and would require a radical shift in how we define the goals and purpose of the economy. The probability of this taking place anytime soon is zero... So all we are left with is the IEA continuing to forecast emissions growth to 2050... Everyone has been far too pragmatic and tried to get some small change done, while leaving us with a legacy of 30 years of continuous failures at every conference ever held... We simply have not framed the conversation correctly... All the talk, or the vast majority, to this day is still only about emissions guaranteeing continued failure....😢

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Sure - the fastest growth in electricity use has been from cell phones! Then these "smart phones" fry people's brains due to the quantum frequency resonance that is ignored by the classical physics of engineers. haha. I remember reading about Overshoot in my Environmental Geography course at University of Wisconsin-Madison in the early 90s but back then most students didn't care. We were part of the UW-Greens - the FBI created 900 pages of documents on a couple dozen of us activists. We got a FOIA request - of course it was all redacted and the FBI complained about having to redact it - and asked that the request be "rescinded." hahaa. I never saw this docs - just heard about it. Point being that apparently we didn't "Market" our crisis properly since people didn't care enough. Of course most people going to University are just trying to make more money for their careers, etc.

[@anthonymorris5084]

Environmentalists all think that the Earth is this pristine place of harmony and purity that humans, like a parasite are wrecking. In fact, the Earth is a hostile place that will kill you at any opportunity. Humans have made it safer and more livable with each passing century and subsequent decade. Energy is everything. It's lifesaving.

[@greenhearted8453]

@@anthonymorris5084 But energy doesn't have to be fossil fuelled.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@greenhearted8453 Correct. However, it is paramount that it is reliable and inexpensive. You can't power the modern world on unreliable expensive energy. And you won't be safe outside of the modern world. Energy is the fundamental cost of every single good and service. From flat screen TV's and BMW's all the way to groceries, health care and public transportation and communication. You raise the price of energy, you raise the price of everything. This lowers standards of living and quality of life. It leads to less safety. The poor suffer the most. When you raise the price of energy the poor starve to death while the wealthy just buy smaller yachts.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@anthonymorris5084 The poor air quality in India and China. They make our stuff and our good way of life depends on their poor health. This is what Larry Summers wanted as outlined in an email in 1991 stating the west can buy less pollution by outsourcing it to the 3rd world and we had the economic power to force it on to the 3rd world. "I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable... because foregone earnings from increased morbidity" are low. He adds that "the underpopulated countries in Africa are vastly underpolluted; their air quality is probably vastly inefficiently low compared to Los Angeles.... " Larry Summers The Memo DATE: December 12, 1991 TO: Distribution FR: Lawrence H. Summers Subject: GEP 'Dirty' Industries: Just between you and me, shouldn't the World Bank be encouraging MORE migration of the dirty industries to the LDCs [Less Developed Countries]? I can think of three reasons: 1) The measurements of the costs of health impairing pollution depends on the foregone earnings from increased morbidity and mortality. From this point of view a given amount of health impairing pollution should be done in the country with the lowest cost, which will be the country with the lowest wages. I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that. 2) The costs of pollution are likely to be non-linear as the initial increments of pollution probably have very low cost. I've always though that under-populated countries in Africa are vastly UNDER-polluted, their air quality is probably vastly inefficiently low compared to Los Angeles or Mexico City. Only the lamentable facts that so much pollution is generated by non-tradable industries (transport, electrical generation) and that the unit transport costs of solid waste are so high prevent world welfare enhancing trade in air pollution and waste. 3) The demand for a clean environment for aesthetic and health reasons is likely to have very high income elasticity. The concern over an agent that causes a one in a million change in the odds of prostate cancer is obviously going to be much higher in a country where people survive to get prostate cancer than in a country where under 5 mortality is 200 per thousand. Also, much of the concern over industrial atmosphere discharge is about visibility impairing particulates. These discharges may have very little direct health impact. Clearly trade in goods that embody aesthetic pollution concerns could be welfare enhancing. While production is mobile the consumption of pretty air is a non-tradable.

[@EmeraldView]

I don't see a way out. Not without a VERY dramatic change in the way global society does things. And that's almost impossible to conceive happening.

[@SandraWade666]

Yup

[@caterthun4853]

Thanks Peter. Carry on keep making this message. More people like me are comming to hear you. Don't get depressed.

[@caterthun4853]

Thanks Peter, I hear your frustration. Government has known for many years of the situation. They have not told the population. Think it's too late. But, As we seem to be metaphorically in a sinking ship full of holes that are not being sealed. I for one will keep bailing

[@mrrecluse7002]

I used to think it might be insects that inherit the earth. Now I think it might just be microbes. Courtesy of "naked apes" alone.

[@EmeraldView]

Insects are practically gone where I live. It's disturbing.

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@EmeraldView That's one example why doomers call it collapse.

[@anthonymorris5084]

There isn't a credible scientist on the face of the Earth claiming humans will go extinct.

[@ddoperations2768]

We are doomed.

[@leviahimsa]

Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, habitat destruction, water pollution, ocean dead zones and *species extinction* . -United Nations FAO The most comprehensive *meta-analysis* conducted to date with 119 countries, shows avoiding animal products is the *"SINGLE BIGGEST WAY"* to reduce our environmental impact. -Oxford University

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

you're spamming this comment - I already replied to it. That claim was from a misleading article on the Worldwatch Institute site. It's already been debunked. Sure Factory Farms with conventional commodity farming is a huge problem - always has been ever since white skin was created in West Asia from wheat monocultural farming, as new DNA science has proven. The Brahmins in India have more white skin for this reason.

[@leviahimsa]

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Neither of the studies are sourced to Worldwatch. Do you know what a *meta analysis* is? No one 'debunked' it. Where do your beliefs come from? 99% of animals are confined in factory farms. ☠️

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@leviahimsa Nitrous oxide (N2O) is an air pollutant of major environmental concern, with agriculture representing 60% of anthropogenic global N2O emissions. Meta-analysis of global livestock urine-derived nitrous oxide emissions from agricultural soils. That's the only "meta analysis" I can find - I did you a favor. Now you provide me with your sources. See how science works? published in Global Change Biology open access online journal 23 January 2020

[@leviahimsa]

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Read the original comment. 🙄

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@leviahimsa It's no shock that farming causes about 14% of global warming emissions - not just animals but mainly the grain that feeds the animals. Which means Vegetable farming is just as bad if not worse than animal farming. 14% is bad and humans have had farming in the past 10,000 years as a bad problem! Humans have existed for 200,000 years as hunter-gatherers. Hunting animals didn't cause global warming. Sorry to burst your bubble. hahaha.

[@abody499]

Let's get one thing straight though, Peter - governments aren't subsidising them WE TAXPAYERS are subsidising them. The governments are giving them OUR money.

[@abody499]

😂11:57 I literally posted that comment at this point. Yep.

[@obsoleteoptics]

Fun fact: the tax revenue collected doesn't even cover the interest on the national debt, let alone the principle.

[@liamtaylor4955]

@@obsoleteoptics As of 2022 the annual total revenues collected total $4.9 trillion, and the annual interest paid on the national debt is $663 billion.

[@obsoleteoptics]

@@liamtaylor4955 interest paid is not interest charged

[@liamtaylor4955]

@@obsoleteoptics So, you're saying the government is already not paying the holders of Treasuries (mainly Americans themselves) their bond dividends? One would think that scenerio, default, would be in the news, even if only ordinary mom and pop buyers, much less institutional investors, were talking about it.

[@erikolsen5802]

Thank you so much for making these videos! 🙏

[@SandraWade666]

This is why I never had kids. I knew for sure humans would never fix these ecological problems. We are too selfish and greedy

[@anthonymorris5084]

Humanity has been solving problems since humans began walking upright. Problem solving has never ceased. We are actually incredibly adept at solving problems including ecological problems. What you call greedy, I call drive and ambition.

[@SandraWade666]

@@anthonymorris5084 drive and ambition to do what?? Collect a ton of stuff that doesn't make us happy. Even as we are destroying this bountiful earth we were blessed with that gave us everything we could ever need and beautiful nature to admire and what did we do? Pave over it. Put up monstrous buildings. Well guess what the entire east coast is sinking now. And those buildings will go with us when we go. We deserve our fate for not appreciating what we were born into.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@SandraWade666 Says the person using modern technology to post on a technological platform that both impacted nature and were provided by people with drive and ambition. Devices and an activity that clearly brings you pleasure or you wouldn't be here posting. I can't help it if you've collected a ton of stuff that doesn't make you happy but you're just projecting on others. How is anybody "destroying the Earth"? That's rather hyperbolic. We impact nature to improve our lives. Those "monstrous buildings" are where people live. Should they live in a mud hut? You have this odd perception that nature is some kind of pristine and nurturing place of harmony and purity that humans, like a parasite have wrecked. In fact, the Earth is a hostile place that will kill you at any opportunity. Humans have made it safer and more livable with each passing century and subsequent decade.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@anthonymorris5084 we were humans before we walked upright? sweet.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@anthonymorris5084 So you don't believe in Supply Side Economics? The electric car public systems in cities were dismantled in a proven corporate conspiracy! People drive cars because that's how Eisenhower set up the Interstate highway system - so we could supposedly escape nuclear disasters faster. Pretty soon you want to blame native indigenous people for having cell phones? haha. Without a "smart phone" someone can no longer be considered a "real person" on society anymore yet cell phones are the number one fastest increase in electricity use! Hilarious.

[@victorschwanberg]

Thank you for all your efforts in this matter Peter, much appreciated!

[@hansjalv]

You're the best, Peter!

[@LunarMuphinz]

All I can think about is how emissions actually declined during COVID. it was the perfect time to pivot the economy and people. We could do it again.

[@nts9]

I do the same knowing that it won’t make any difference because even though I sold my car and eBike a lot when a, lot of people stop driving cats it lowers the price of gasoline and makes it more likely for that other people will drive more.

[@EmeraldView]

Damned if you do...

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

And then there's the Aerosol Masking Effect. Also Regenerative Agriculture actually stores carbon. Growing vegetables still requires animal manure. hahaha. People are cut off from ecology so we think going "vegan" will save the planet. I was vegan for 15 years - I'm still lactose intolerant from my vegan years. Hilarious. I mean if people want to go vegan and not drive cars - all the better! But our problem is much deeper for sure. I ate out of dumpsters for 10 years while I rode an old British 3 speed (internal hub gear) - no maintenance necessary despite the nasty Minnesota winters. hahahaha.

[@SandraWade666]

It's the global wealthy elites causing this not us

[@dylanthomasolseadog2803]

Always inspiring to hear you Doc

[@DefianceCrow-ji1rr]

Do you think conflict between nations will occur before the entire earth reaches unhabitable conditions. I mean as soon as a country is unable to feed it's people, they may feel it necessary to do what ever it takes to get food. This will bring war destroying everything even faster; before anyone can mitigate the extreme effects of climate change. They'll be too occupied by fighting. What do you think?

[@tiagoalmeida2293]

War over resources like food and fresh water will begin way before the Earth becomes unhabitable to humans. Migration and nationalism will also play a massive role.

[@MyKharli]

Its a certainty

[@timtam2126]

you can see breakdown in various countries now, its not theoretical. Horn of Africa, sri lanka, , afghanistan,

[@carnaud]

Most assuredly…it’s happening now. We entered the resource wars stage decades ago. It’s only going to accelerate.

[@Mike80528]

It's already starting. Not just Russia, but look at Afghanistan attacking Iran. That's a water conflict. We just get used to anything as normal. Our adaptability is key to our downfall.

[@obsoleteoptics]

Are all the accomplishments of humanity fated to be nothing more than a layer of broken plastic shards thinly strewn across a fossil bed, sandwiched between the Burgess shale and an eon's worth of mud? In order to be true to our nature, and our destiny, we must aspire to greater things. We have outgrown our cradle.

[@mrrecluse7002]

You are truly a fan of man. I wish I could be.

[@obsoleteoptics]

@@mrrecluse7002 Not a fan, just a disappointed idealist.

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@obsoleteoptics I get it. I'm likely much older, so am far less idealistic than I used to be. A natural progression in this screwed up world.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

I knew we were doomed by 1996 so to finish my master's degree I did intensive nonwestern meditation through the African Studies department at University of Minnesota - training with a Chinese yoga spiritual healer of Daoist-Buddhist alchemy, Chunyi Lin. I can assure you that ghosts are real and there is a definitely spiritual realm of reality we can make contact with - we can have precognitive healing dreams even! Read the book "Transcendent Dreaming" by Christina Donnell for details - she did similar training and she got a Ph.D. in psychology for her career.

[@caterthun4853]

And.. Today Exonn has announced that they have developed a new oil drilling system to increase the quantity of oil from an oil field.. Madness.

[@anthonymorris5084]

Says the person using a device made from fossil fuels.

[@caterthun4853]

@@anthonymorris5084 yes and lives in a home surrounded by products and of fossil fuels heated by fossil fuels. Food fertilised by fossil fuel.. Now can you see why we need to use less. At least stop burning the stuff.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@caterthun4853 The world needs more fossil fuels not less. There is a direct correlation between poverty and a lack of inexpensive reliable energy. As an example, there are 1 million people in the Congo without access to energy. Unlike you, they burn wood and animal dung in their homes and lead lives of abject struggle and misery. They destroy the forest extracting wood daily. This represents large scale plant and animal habitat destruction and burning wood sends emissions skyward. Life expectancy is poor. A centralized coal plant would be inexpensive and supply the entire community with electricity dramatically enhancing their lives. They would cook with electricity, have lighting, air conditioning and could charge their phones, radios and TV's which they don't currently have. Poverty around the world kills millions. All climate policies induce further poverty. Warming isn't the problem, poverty is. Energy is everything. It's lifesaving.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@anthonymorris5084 sounds like you drink the Economics Kool-Aid. Drink up!

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Sounds like you have no argument. What a shock.

[@aland5478]

I am tied of hearing I am a dead man walking. It is all to clear that we are going over the cliff. Fuck it, I am going to go postal on the next group of people that piss me off!

[@nsbd90now]

That will only be you destroying yourself Alan. Rather, why not face the reality of our existing in a time of collapse with courage and existential equanimity?

[@everythingmatters6308]

Why not direct your rage at a politician or corporate lobbyist or trophy hunter or corrupt judge?

[@sukhdevjohal9053]

Meanwhile the uk is consumed by the Phil and Holly saga

[@ChickpeatheTortie]

I'm 68 and can remember how cold winters could be in the UK absolutely freezing - I remember it very very well - now barely use the central heating anymore living in London

[@James4791zx]

I remember november 5th was always ice and frost in the 80s

[@abody499]

its lung disease effects are also ending plenty people's now

[@juliebarks3195]

I often see people jogging/running by the side of roads, and often with standing traffic due to road works. They are killing themselves faster than a couch potato.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

we have air advisory today due to the Ontario smoke. It's all hazy so looks like it's gonna rain but it's actually the opposite.

[@sbeast64]

"The rate of CO2 increase, the IPCC says, is a 56 million year high." Oh...

[@miguel5785]

Thank you for not giving up. We all need to do our best to reduce GHG emissions asap.

[@nickkacures2304]

Scary thought but It would have been easier to say where on the planet it wasn’t going to be scorched 🥵 in the next few years.

[@mrpaul5726]

It is hard to disagree with anything you say Peter, but we have to face up to the laws of Physics. One of which is Kinetic Energy and the amount of effort/energy required to deflect let alone stop the trajectory of climate change just does not exist nor is it likely to in the foreseeable future. In view of this the only realistic strategy is Mitigation.

[@snowjoe43]

Thank you Dr. Carter!!!

[@danielfaben5838]

True. Entropy is at work in a huge way. But the most likely mitigation is massive elimination of human numbers. People that aren't fed, watered, clothed, housed and especially entertained, are people headed for an early death. For the most part, humans have lost whatever natural capacities we once had to extract life supports without industrial inputs. How many might be left? Perhaps considerably less than a billion. Waiting for falling birth rates to do the job is not going to cut it. Death will be a growth industry. Time is coming. Learn how to die.

[@mrpaul5726]

@@danielfaben5838 Cant argue with that, one way or another life on earth is heading for an Extinction Level Event, and Humans will be the likely cause, either through Nuclear War, Climate Change or Pandemics or an Unknown Unknown.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@danielfaben5838 The U.S. population is only 4.9% of the global population yet the US cumulative emissions are the biggest on the planet. China won't catch up to U.S. cumulative emissions till 2030 and by then it will be way too late. hahaha. Sure population explosion became a problem eversince Agriculture was invented.

[@anthonymorris5084]

Mitigation is the only rational pursuit. Fossil fuels (inexpensive reliable energy) generated the unprecedented economic growth that gave us the modern world. The modern world is an anomaly. It's the modern world that keeps us safe. Fossil fuels and the modern world mitigate and neutralize threats from warming. Threats from everything. Poverty kills millions every single year and all climate policies induce further poverty. We need more fossil fuels, not less.

[@elekkr]

"the future is uncertain but the end is always near" -The Doors-; Roadhouse Blues

[@EnvironmentalCoffeehouse]

Always

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Haley Reinhart just sang with the Doors guitarist. Haley has a global warming song also.

[@bigjd2k]

At work they say they’re going green, doing this and that for the environment. They then outline their growth strategy! The economists still don’t get it - you can’t grow forever in a finite world. And the general public are worse - they all want huge 500HP cars, they can’t stand back and realise it’s not possible.

[@Atheistbatman]

2030 won’t be burning coal it’ll be campfires if we are lucky

[@EmeraldView]

I've stocked up on matches

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

We have Red code warnings - no outside fires allowed. haha.

[@Darkotaku85]

Thanks Peter for the latest info on Climate breakdown. Other climate researchers such as Peter Kalmus, Peter Dynes and Leon Simmons have practically reached the same conclusions.

[@SomeIdiot983]

Finally, someone directly using the "R" word!

[@obsoleteoptics]

Still waiting for the "F" word, however.

[@0vaDaWudz]

@@obsoleteopticsfucked?

[@rociomiranda5684]

I am 61, grateful that I have no children or grandchildren. No hostages to the future.

[@Kiyarose3999]

Pushing Fossil Fuels as the cause is playing right into big business hands to continue with the current Extractive Linear Growth Economy. Just Mining different and more stuff and turning it into different things, ie business as usual, just a high tech version of the Industrial Revolution. Dystopian EV’s, & ‘Renewables’ that are destroying the Congo. Causing severe birth Malformations in local communities and causing/funding armed conflict in the DRC etc!

[@Kiyarose3999]

You highlight my comment re fossil fuels not being the cause of the climate crisis, but you continue to ‘’push’’ that misinformation, why don’t you tell the truth that animal ag. Is not just a main driver, but the ACTUAL cause?, to not do so puts you on the wrong side of history, and part of the problem instead of the solution! ✊🏽🌎🌻

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Sure the problem is much deeper. Science CAUSED ABrupt global warming - actually it was just hierarchical war patriarchy cultures that spread around the world once hoarding wealth with farming developed. Western "civilization" starting with Platonic philosophy is based on the exponential math as the inverse of the logarithmic function - originated from the wrong music theory (developed by Philolaus using irrational magnitude ratios in music theory and Archtyas - promoted by Plato).

[@leviahimsa]

Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, habitat destruction, water pollution, ocean dead zones and *species extinction* . -United Nations FAO The most comprehensive *meta-analysis* conducted to date with 119 countries, shows avoiding animal products is the *"SINGLE BIGGEST WAY"* to reduce our environmental impact. -Oxford University

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@leviahimsa "Even the backbone of his documentary, the Worldwatch report indicating that agriculture contributes 51% of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions (Hickman, 2009), is false. Links associated with the report are dead links, so Worldwatch has since likely deleted or retracted that report. Even so, the report at the time of publication is a poor example of academic research. The first problem is that the authors were advisors for World Bank, not actual environmental science academics. Secondly, their report was neither peer-reviewed nor published in an academic journal. Instead, the Worldwatch Institute published it on their own. Fortunately, scientists have since performed an actual study of agriculture’s estimated environmental impact for greenhouse gas emissions, finding a number closer to 15% (Veerasamy et al, 2015). This defeats the premise of the entire documentary, namely, that agriculture is the single largest contributor to greenhouse gases and environmental groups conspire to avoid standing up to the beef industry. " Sure Factory Farming and Conventional Crop farming are huge causes of global warming but intensive rotational grazing as "regenerative agriculture" is proven to store carbon. So it's not "animal farming" inherently but rather how it is done that is the problem.

[@kennj321]

The fast and furious end of a civilization. And we have front row seats.

[@rudyhaugeneder4038]

Too many people, too little time.

[@juliebarks3195]

Let's say it how it is. "It's Murder".

[@greenhearted8453]

Freaking genocide!

[@juliebarks3195]

@@greenhearted8453 On an industrial scale.

[@michaelauknz]

Peter.. I am 100% in agreement with you. We are but crayfish in a pot enjoying the temperature rise .. Human society is based on greed for growth as the measure of worth. Basically, Wet Bulb will be out ending by 2075..is my best calculation and 2050 habit will be depleted both on the land and in the ocean..

[@nsbd90now]

I'd bet global chaos will be well underway by 2030.

[@Garylincoln789]

Fossil fuel CEOs are more evil than Hitler, Mao and Stalin combined. They didn't want every human gone. 😂

[@andrewgrosset9327]

So here in the west we are gradually closing down all our manufacturing and heavy industry and moving it to Asia - mainly China and India in an effort to reduce our "Carbon footprint" and feel good about climate change.. China last year was building 2 new coal fired power stations per week. My local hardware store now sells plywood manufactured in China for an American lumber company (I live surrounded by trees where we make plywood which is slowly becoming unprofitable compared with imports). People are being deluded about Climate change.

[@gregcromack5392]

Sadly I believe that you are too optimistic. Humanity sometimes has to learn the hard way. I think that in the 2030s we will see Global Financial Collapse, famine, war and suffering brought about by global climate breakdown. If we’re lucky then we will emerge from the experience with a much more sustainable society as what happens with plagues of other species.

[@bobm6423]

we WON'T emerge. not on THIS world anyways

[@christinearmington]

Good luck 🍀

[@caterthun4853]

2030..start, Sorry you are wrong it's happening now. The war in Africa. The war in Syria caused death thousands. Started due to crop failure causing uprising. Ukraine is a huge food producer. Russia thought it needs that land.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Yes this El Nino could cause the ESAS methane "abrupt eruption" as arctic-news has been warning for the past several years.

[@anthonymorris5084]

There isn't a scientist or economist with an ounce of credibility predicting what you are claiming.

[@angelsplace]

Awesome! Thank you 💜

[@rg1360]

You're mistaken on cattle. Grazing animals turn the land into carbon sinks (it would become an extreme emitter as peat otherwise) reason being is the animal takes the carbon out of the ground (grass) and stores this carbon as itself. The animal is effectively a temporary tree holding the carbon. Carbon needs turning back into life forms such as trees and animals to avoid too much being loose in the atmosphere. We need an abundance of animals grazing the land to soak the carbon out of the atmosphere. We need to eat these animals. Predators need reducing in numbers to keep the grazing numbers up.

[@louisehoff9467]

Multnomah County in which Portland, Oregon is situated, has just sued 17 fossil fuel companies for causing the 2019 Heat Dome. I so proud to be part of the group of activists that have been fighting the monstrous Zenith Corp expansion of alberta tar sands oils destined for export and the fact that the oil tanks storing oil for the state are in an earthquake subduction zone. Native American Tribes are fighting Biden allowing foreign countries to dig the largest open pit lithium mine on the burial grounds of a former Native American massacre, on the Oregon border, squandering millions of gallons of water, while adding acids.

[@jonathonalsop2120]

Thanks Peter.

[@jedturner9173]

people in certain cities will have to evacuate to higher ground to keep cool ,if they can make it, sounds crazy , but its going to be a reality

[@CharlesWakefield]

So few will ever see this. . .

[@CharlesWakefield]

Less humans. That is the answer, if not we may have 0 humans.

[@N0tEnuffMana]

Welcome Tovarish Carter! lol all jokes aside, I totally agree.

[@patricialongo5870]

My family knows that cars are practical, the ecosystem is not practical. They want to go by car. Only. Ever.

[@Nottherebutthere]

What about South Africa's coal burning too!

[@dion8962]

What about India, China, Russia, Brazil, Indonesia, Vietnam, or Taiwan? If the U.S., Canada, or the UK go first it pits us at a military disadvantage to our enemies who have fossil fueled military. That is the problem.. no one wants to go first or they will get wrecked.. especially the U.S.

[@reverands571]

The glass and steel office towers, are a lot like a thermal Solar panel, plus the air conditioning collects that heat, adds its own (it takes energy to move heat), and puts it all back into the atmosphere.

[@bundleofperceptions1397]

My money is still on extinction via nuclear annihilation. Although, climate change may very well be one of the triggers, so it may just be splitting hairs. Bottom Line: we don't stand much of a chance of ever seeing the year 2100. So don't worry, be happy. Concentrate on fixing what can be fixed. Learn to be self-sufficient.

[@TheKqkk]

lies upon lies upon lies

[@sukhdevjohal9053]

I cannot imagine Peter with a pitchfork

[@hiimelfo]

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Frank Herbert

[@timyo6288]

I am increasing my meat consumption every year while I can.

[@JimMooney-yg6cd]

He said “Super Bad”- I guess James Brown was way before his time….

[@kirbywebb]

What about the aerosol masking affect? if we stop emissions the aerosols will fall out of the sky and the earth will heat up anyway.

[@-LightningRod-]

alberta fires?,... try and think of it this way, the arctic edge of the boreal forest is on fire, the Globes arctic edge, of the boreal forest is on fire, all the way around the Earth.

[@johnglad5]

3.5 degrees c already

[@toram6210]

Why no one ever mentioned it And now all the sudden we hear this new term El Niño And everyone is talking about it as if they discovered it

[@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland]

Global populations have never experienced such a relative wealth explosion thanks to fossil fuels. Braking down our fossil fuel addiction (plastics) will harm our economies and will mean increased poverty for millions to come!

[@5353Jumper]

Plastics, materials and chemicals from petroleum can continue to exist after we reduce demand (and the harm) for fuels. Petroleum will still be a very useful product, we just need to stop burning the stuff. And then learn how to dispose of them without choking ducks and putting micro plastics into fish. Just need to reduce burning the stuff for energy and get our energy in other ways (and also reduce our energy consumption).

[@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland]

@@5353Jumper Green Power madness is a poverty trap... No money left for expensive green fads! GReens are killing our wealth and ability to migrate slowly@

[@wobblybobengland]

What about cows?

[@reforest4fertility]

Why not we varied peoples not turn this heat upon politicians, who we vote to represent us people, for them to represent us peoples rather than industries & corporations now ahead of December, plz, for posterity's sake, which includes saving our own asses. But not only on fossil fuel use, but also against continued deforestation-style logging, as forests cool, generally, and are nature's carbon sink, with their root systems holding slopes from sloughing and keep carbon from running off into the ocean. Forests also stabilize the climate, so needed for fertile growing conditions, for us to grow food & for food to just grow for wildlife. People must sweep out the evil & usher in the good, with humane people dogpiling into politics.

[@em945]

I really appreciated your efforts Peter. I still want to fully disagree about veganism. This is not a sustainable way to produce food. It is INDUSTRIALISED FOOD PRODUCTION that is the issue. Methane is created by rotting vegetation. The vegan diet is still extremely damaging and in some ways more damaging than simple grass fed pasturalism. Nuts, avacado, cocoa, coffee, tobacco, alcohol, all cropping...EXTREMELY damaging to soil, water, require high levels of insecticides, artificial fertilisers, and are not in any way sustainable. They could be if done with different practices, but are not in large amounts. There is also a lot of killing of animals to stop them eating the fruit or crops etc and during harvests. Veganism is based on a lot of misinformation, and reductionism. There is no indication it is healthy over a long period. Grassfed regenerative pasturalism in alongside or in rotation with non animal low imput production is what mothernature does and will be best option. High level of animal husbandary and the kindest practices are also required. Very little dairy too, it is very high maintenance.

[@lynadamson1456]

and compost the veggie and fruit scraps, we have curbside recycling in Toronto, and thus the emissions are greatly reduced.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@lynadamson1456 don't forget humanure composting. That's how real people have farms for thousands of years - I visited the most traditional Berber village in Morocco that still farmed that way - completely self-reliant.

[@caseychris2010]

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Good point. Humanure can be composted, though it is easily treated in waste water treatment plants. The waste "stream" that is difficult to treat is the nitrogen-rich urine. Better to use urine as a resource. It can be diluted with water and added to the garden. The leaves will turn super-green.

[@5353Jumper]

Seem to be forgetting that over 35% of crops are grown for feeding livestock., 55% for other human consumption, and the last 10% for other products. But livestock only represents around 18% of our food intake and emits around 57% of food based emissions. Which means we could significantly reduce the amount of farm production needed if we moved some of the consumption from meat to vegetables. And beef in particular is the worst offending meat. If we moved a lot of beef consumption over to either vegetables or some other livestock we would also greatly reduce the amount of commercial farming needed (and resulting emissions). Edit: but yes I agree with your point that we can also make more logical choices for which grains, fruits and vegetables we choose too. Some are more harmful than others and transportation for the sake of variety is also a problem.

[@em945]

@@5353Jumper i stand by my comment. It also referred to grassfed regenerative pasturalism, not the american industrial complex your stats seem to refer to. The systems the US have in place are tragic. They seem to be layers of preditors skimming of the layer below, with the farmer making very little.They are also heavily subsidised by the government. I have been caring for my family's small cattle farm in Australia, just north of Melbourne for seven years. Australia has no subsidies. I cannot tell you how different this is from what you are suggesting is happening. I would be one of our cows, if I could. Our old British breed is built only for grasses, and are bery resilient. Our pastured land is doing better and better, building quality soil, with no additives. We kill no preditors, the cows are loved by the wildlife. It is not always easy, but they are the only suitable animal for this land on a floodplain. The soil lost its fertility probably 100 years ago during early settlement and unsuitable practices. Australia needs regenerative farming more than any country , due to it's landscape, and has some big changes happening already. We did not get the richness that a lot of the US and Europe had. Basically everything is grassfed here until end for some farms that cannot 'finish' or fatten them enough, where they would do 3 months in a feedlot with grains. We do not need to do this. We all add hay during certain times of the year. I believe failed crops are used also. Cattle in many areas are strong and very suitable if properly managed. The fight you have in the US is that the animals are all bred for grain, the farms are striped of grass, and there is big bucks in tractors, chemicals, insecticides, GMO crops, all adding a certainty to production. Mother nature throws curveballs and production requires a lot of hands on effort if you want to do it more naurally. This is what I do, and there are many small farmers doing the same across the world. Big Ag will fight as hard as Big pharma and Big Oil. I have seen extremely dodgy science papers done in the US claiming that grass fed beef etc is bad for the environment. Now that i am on the land and have a bit of history and education, I can read what they are saying and call BS. Our animals just sold for a low price due to the US dumping drought animals on the chinese market, breaking a trade contract we had with them. Austtalian companies have too much meat frozen , now to be used. The US also are selling their cheap SUBSIDISED fruit and nuts in Australia, with many growers in Victoria giving up. I came here from a health and fitness background (pilates and yoga), and a very good understanding of and number of attempts at long term veganism. I have never met a healthy long term vegan, (willing to be proven wrong) and now as a food producer can almost 100% assure you that much of the vegan food will be very highly damaging to the land and water it is on, requiring the same cropping equipment and supported by a lot of nitrogen supplimentation, worse that methane. To create the permaculture style food forrests on a large production scale is very exciting, and I hope it gets going, but it takes time, committment and very very healthy humans , not ones struggling with vegan difficiencies. I also am a total nature lover. Kill only mosquitos and redbacks, not even flies or regular spiders. I have no tractors or motorbikes. Seeing the animals go to sale (finished amd ready for slaughter) is so sad, but I am proud to provide high quality healthy protein for someone. I wish we could do boutique sale and slaughter, but the regulations are dominated by big industry. I will leave it at that. I wish you well.

[@Atheistbatman]

U know even following the IPCC guidelines will not be enough I appreciate all of your work and explanations over the years and I think it is good But Would like to hear from an Entomologist about incr CO2 is enough decrease in O2% could be leading the insect apocalypse ? And a Horticulturist concerning decreasing day/night temp difference on plant (crops) growth (good luck u will not find one but I know one) Or u can continue to discuss the arctic and the ocean and Siberia and all of the other places that we cannot connect to (and that was the first mistake since the beginning Put on how fruit crops are shrinking in size (or smaller does better) or becoming nonexistent from lack of chill hours JHMF why can I find no discussions on these topics in detail…the topics that will actually impact us immediately and now? But please continue telling us about ice caps and Greenland and SLR wooohooo While we starve

[@Atheistbatman]

Sorry so harsh but dammit

[@Atheistbatman]

And there are no other channels or websites or anything about climate change and horticulture or agriculture that is so bland and shallow…no depth no research except for daytime heat tolerance….cool days and warm nights will do the worse damage eventually and no one knows it

[@bobm6423]

go give a listen to Kevin Hester and Guy McPherson (filter out the hate first - just listen to the message)

[@EmeraldView]

Insects are practically gone where I live. It's very disturbing.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

We used to pay $3000 a year to have herbicides sprayed on our 20 lawns and 1 acre of land since the lawn grass is surrounded by actual wild nature. So we stopped that and now the insects have made a big comeback - native bees, wasps, etc. But yeah the study in Puerto Rico about global warming killing the insects - and also in Germany - these are quite disturbing. Obviously if photosynthesis shuts down then insects are gonna go also. Just googlescholar "biological annhilation" - as the temperature goes up then extinction increases exponentially.

[@Iona963]

Amidst the prevalent concerns surrounding AI, one topic dominates conversations: the imminent threat posed by its exponential intelligence growth, potentially surpassing humanity and leading to the eradication of our species. In response, numerous AI experts have rallied for an immediate halt to further research and development in this field. However, I hold a contrasting viewpoint. The world finds itself at the epicenter of multiple existential crises, an amalgamation of unprecedented challenges. Firstly, we teeter on the precipice of nuclear war, a precarious situation that demands urgent attention. Secondly, scientific forecasts forewarn of a viral pandemic as contagious as COVID-19 and as lethal as Ebola, a constant looming possibility. Lastly, climate change escalates exponentially, driving us deeper into the heart of the sixth great mass extinction. Regrettably, our existing capacities fall short in confronting any of these formidable crises. It is conceivable that Homo sapiens could face extinction within the decade. In this dire circumstance, our salvation may lie in artificial superintelligence. Thus, we must strive to accelerate its development with utmost urgency. It is true that such advanced AI could potentially determine our annihilation, yet it is a risk we must be willing to take. Embracing the uncertain outcome becomes our sole chance at survival.

[@mrrecluse7002]

Yes, I have wondered the same thing. Can something with the potential of becoming a singularity, be directed, (in a desperate gamble), to solve the gargantuan task of restoring health and biodiversity, on this planet? Of course, it might wipe us out, and save the rest. Anyway, it seems conceivable, if this thing is to become as godlike, as many think.

[@greenhearted8453]

Do you think "they" will listen to AI when it tells them we're $#@!ed? They sure haven't listened to us. 😞

[@ptegsotica5895]

consider sci-fi writing 😂

[@greenhearted8453]

@@ptegsotica5895 So you don't follow the climate disruption research or news. Hmm.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

No mention of Nukes? Strange.

[@kipling1957]

I used to know a Peter Carter many years ago, who was an excellent hairdresser in Birmingham. Not the same guy I guess?

[@kirstinstrand6292]

1.5 increase in heat? Will this create Wet Bulb 💡 Temperatures? Will Solar and Wind Power suffice to cool bodies off so that internal organs don't cook and kill us? We're counting on you, Peter to guide us through the intense, anticipated heat. It's expected between 2023 - 2025. You are the Expert, so we are counting on your judgment. Only FF will allow adequate air conditioning. If you say ESGs will take care of air conditioning this is truth on you. Thanks for all you do.❤😅

[@larry785]

The "Ñino" is pronounced like neen-yo

[@barrydalfino6967]

The first blue ocean event is the end for life on Earth. Reserve your bunker now!

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Peter Wadhams has a new talk on youtube - has two versions of the slides, etc. showing the Arctic Extent in 2012 minimum compared to 2020 - the latter extent is only half a meter to a meter thick! It's going fast. As Wadhams says, "melting from underneath."

[@anthonymorris5084]

There isn't a credible scientist on the face of this Earth that backs your claim.

[@johnwheeler4034]

if only Peter was more charismatic, maybe the message would reach more people.

[@nsbd90now]

"Faster than expected" used to be something only my girlfriends ever said to me. 😜

[@9one9Music]

I can imagine a world where capitalism doesn't solely focus on profits and shareholder value. In this world, businesses would be more focused on social responsibility and environmental sustainability. They would invest in their employees and communities, and they would work to reduce their environmental impact. In this world, there would be less inequality. Everyone would have access to quality education and healthcare. There would be less poverty and homelessness. And everyone would have a chance to succeed. In this world, the environment would be healthier. There would be less pollution and climate change. And there would be more biodiversity. This world is possible. We just need to be willing to make it happen. We need to demand that businesses be more responsible. We need to support businesses that are doing good. And we need to get involved in our communities. Together, we can create a better world. A world where capitalism doesn't just focus on profits, but also on people and the planet. Here are some specific examples of how capitalism could be used to achieve social and environmental goals: • Businesses could invest in their employees by providing them with training, education, and opportunities for advancement. • Businesses could invest in their communities by supporting local businesses, donating to charities, and volunteering their time. • Businesses could reduce their environmental impact by using renewable energy, reducing waste, and conserving water. These are just a few examples of how capitalism could be used to achieve social and environmental goals. By working together, we can create a more sustainable and equitable world.

[@wddigit]

I made this climate collapse themed album if anyone needs some

[@anthonymorris5084]

Fossil fuels generated the unprecedented economic growth that created the modern world. The modern world is an anomaly. In the 1800's average life expectancy was 34. All of humanity suffered from malnutrition, died of starvation and treatable diseases. The modern world is what keeps you safe. Fossil fuels, economic growth and the modern world mitigate and neutralize threats from warming. All threats in fact. Meanwhile poverty is killing millions and all climate polices induce greater poverty.

[@greenhearted8453]

You mean *until* the 1800s, life expectancy was in the 30s or 40s. Childhood mortality has always impacted that figure. And you're not giving enough credit to growing understanding of infectious diseases, etc. (doctors learning the importance of washing their hands had nothing to do with fossil fuels). You know that the air pollution from burning fossil fuels kills 10 million people per year, right? And I'm not sure you'd be able to back up your claim that "ALL climate polices [sic] induce greater poverty." Given that we're trying to stave off extinction - which would kill all of us - then it doesn't make sense to say that working to slow climate catastrophe would be bad for the most vulnerable (about whom most of you deniers don't care a wit until you decide to blame all problems on us). And you think that fossil fuels "mitigate and neutralize ... all threats"? Wow, my second chuckle for the evening.

[@em945]

@@greenhearted8453 this guy is just a regular troll.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@greenhearted8453 Your sarcasm and incessant need to call everybody who disagrees with you a "denier" causes you to lose all credibility. Pot calling kettle black. You can go back 5,000 years from the 1800's and you will see almost no change. The vast majority of humanity lived in a mud hut, worked from sunup until sundown, was impoverished and died an early death. Nothing changed until the discovery of fossil fuels. In less than a hundred years an astronaut hit a golf ball on the moon and returned home safe. When fossil fuel production soared, everything dramatically improved - longevity, infant mortality, education, leisure time, GDP growth, nutrition, everything. Inexpensive reliable energy gave you everything you have today. It created the machines that do the work of hundreds. This incredible advancement in productivity allowed for scientific discovery and unprecedented educational opportunity. Fossil fuels create energy, plastics, pharmaceuticals, and fertilizer. They created the modern world. Nowhere is their evidence that fossil fuels kill 10 million people per year. Every single human on Earth lives longer and enjoys a dramatically better quality of life because of fossil fuels. It's called perspective. When people in England were suffering from breathing issues related to coal and the industrial revolution, nobody demanded the end of coal. Coal was a gift. It was life saving. All climate policies lead to unreliable expensive energy. This generates a lower standard of living and quality of life. It harms the poor the most. The poor starve to death while the rich just buy smaller yachts. Climate policies induce poverty. No scientist on the face of this Earth is claiming we're going extinct. If this is what you believe it's no wonder you're so susceptible to all the other alarmist rhetoric. Fossil fuels created the economic growth that led to the modern world. It's the modern world that mitigates and neutralizes all threats. When a hurricane hits the Eastern seaboard of the US 50 people might die. When it hits the Philippines 20,000 people die. Poverty kills not warming. An Earthquake in the 1980's hit San Francisco, less than a hundred people perished. Several months ago, an Earthquake of the same magnitude hit Turkey and 40,000 people died. Poverty kills, not warming. The Netherlands already sits below sea level and the Dutch aren't dying, drowning, fleeing or becoming climate refugees. In the 1970's a flood hit Bangladesh and killed 250,000 people. Poverty kills, not warming. In modern wealthy nations we developed covid vaccinations. They didn't originate from Somalia. More people died in the developing world. Poverty kills, not warming. The evidence is overwhelming.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@em945 Trolls engage in personal attacks, insults and try to provoke. I engage in honest polite argument. A troll is not a person who disagrees with you and systematically deconstructs your rhetoric.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@anthonymorris5084 "deconstructs" - wow now that's a fancy verb! hahaha. Please just stick to your "growth" mantra.

[@perium22]

Great narrative.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Planet Earth is doomed. Unfortunately, Oil will only prolong life for the living. Why bother is your take, yes? ❤

[@davidattig9420]

Wether modefacation equipment is in 0rder using drones with water and wind flying drones connection with star link an atonamis wether modification equipment globaly To modify the weather

[@-LightningRod-]

"El Duper",....

[@stewartbrands]

It is pronounced - el neenyo. Yo at the end. The warming trend is persistent. It happens in interglacial periods. CO2 in the atmosphere can contingent with the many forces that produce interglacial periods and the warming rate can be linked ,in part, to CO2. The U.S and Russian Antarctic core samples agree that there was more CO2 in the interglacial period and it was wetter also. This is what created the huge forests in which huge animals lived in and around. The Carboniferous time was an example of robust plantlife and high CO2, but also high in O2. I am not convinced your hypothesis is coherent with the evidence. That is in glacial periods there was severe draught evidenced by the sand and dust deposits from Australia in the glacial period ice layers of Antarctica for instance. The warm period cores show higher water amounts in the air during warm periods and no dust. This implies the heat evaporated the oceans and allowed for immense botanical expression. Lots of CO2 ensured a warm wet world. So more CO2 in the atmosphere world appear to be a natural and beneficial thing for all habitats because there is more humidity, more plantlife and more resources for food. This is how the dinosaurs grew so large as did animals just 100,000 years ago. The fuel we burn came from globally warmer forests. How do those facts not mean that the world will gradually become warmer and wetter since that has been the trend for hundreds of millions of years. More heat leads to more seawater evaporation which leads to more plantlife which leads to more O2 and Co2 which leads to more useable water. How is this old trend not the default Earth process ? Naturally is will be hot and dry before the evaporated water has its vitalising affect. Evaporation and warm wet climate takes time to happen. There are always delays while the potential raises to another normal.More CO2 in the atmosphere would perhaps help this wet and fecund norm arrive sooner and enhance the biosphere.Australia

[@alanhyland5697]

I feel bad about liking this video, but it's the harsh reality we're facing.

[@sfmc3000]

WASF!!

[@Tellhimhesdead-m1y]

Hi Pete, i don`t want to come across all positive but you and your ilk have been spouting your 6yr schtick since the early 1990s so i think your alarmism/disaster/catastrophe forecasts should be thrown out for a less hysterical, more truthful/realistic presentation of the facts.

[@smarsville]

Please give examples of the "great, brilliant, clean energy" that replace current levels of energy demand. That is a major statement and you need to give examples accompanied by data and calculations. Anything less is suspect and functionally meaningless.

[@nickguthrie9309]

You and I need to simplify our greeds biggly, to a degree that is/are hard to imagine

[@anthonymorris5084]

There is no evidence of any energy source that can currently replace fossil fuels. It's all wishful thinking. This is why he didn't cite any data or evidence.

[@greenhearted8453]

So don't listen if it's functionally meaningless to you. Buh bye!

[@carolzhou8478]

I agree on all accounts except one: diet. Not only is veganism not a healthy diet, it is environmentally unsustainable. Enormous fossil fuel input is required to grow crops, which displace natural flora and fauna by means of habitat destruction. I am not arguing in favor of CAFOs. Animal agriculture on land replenishes soil, and can be carried out in areas where agriculture cannot. You may argue that agriculture done that way could not feed 8B people, and you are right. But the truth that we long ago exceeded the carrying capacity of Earth is a reality regardless of which diet we choose.

[@DominionMovementDotOrg]

you should look into each of these points much further, as each is still inaccurate

[@carolzhou8478]

@@DominionMovementDotOrg I have looked into these points extensively over the past decade and continue to do so. I interpret what I read in light of my extensive biology training and research experience. Thank you for listening.

[@caterthun4853]

Don't entirely agree. Reducing meat will help.. See book. How bad are bananas

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

I completely agree with you carol - since growing corn requires a LOT of nitrogen! Conventional farming does not sequester carbon in contrast to regenerative agriculture using intensive rotational grazing. Farmers had a Median 50% population income last year in the U.S. of $210.00 -- that's correct and better then previous years of a NEGATIVE income of thousands of dollars. The Farm Crisis never ended - it's always been about automation and "economy of scale" of bigger machines using diesel of course. The fertilizer process requires natural gas, etc. It's all just a big scam - the soil fertility has been destroyed, etc. The fact is that inventing agriculture was the problem in the first place. Females use to be the "gatherers" and farmers in our original farms - I even visited the most traditional Berber village in Morocco and only the females did the farming - using Humanure Composting to grow vegetables. So if we used Humanure Composting then going vegan would be possible. hahaha. I was vegan for 15 years and I'm still lactose intolerant from it. Not severely - just get some cramps. Hilarious.

[@greenhearted8453]

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Hate to tell you this, but giving up being vegan doesn't make you lactose intolerant. (It's probably just your body saying, "Hey, I liked it better without all these gross dairy products.)

[@stewartbrands]

The term "evil"you used is inappropriate. I recommend you study the Antarctic ice core samples and learn about the climactic cycles. Then learn about the fecundity of life and its diversity when there were higher CO2 ppns in atmosphere which also includes higher O2 content because of the larger forest biomasses.(forests breath COs and transform it to wood). Your knitted brow monologue of fear will not change anyone no matter what topic you may chose. Standing in front of a camera with severe countenance and a white beard to imply some sort of archetypical religious sage does nothing more than show that you are obsessed with certainty about a subject that is intrinsically uncertain.

[@sukhdevjohal9053]

Peter you are beginning to sound like a broken record

[@carleddison7479]

This is good. Testable, falsifiable hostages to fortune. Saved and to be revisited over the next five years. The future defence of failed predictions will be fascinating.

[@marksouthern7542]

Sea level rise is not accelerating, temperatures have increased, but for most parts of the world, the warming is welcome. Increase C02 in the air is greening the planet and producing higher and higher crop yields (along with improved farming techniques). There are credible scientists who are predicting a colder phase over the next decade. Beware the cold, it is going to kill a lot more than a little warming, especially as channels like this promote the destruction of our reliable energy systems. I recommend the review of work by C02 coalition, Happer, Lindzen, Patrick Moore, Zhong, Zharkova...plenty of other PhD scientists who do not hold to the 'consensus'.

[@dion8962]

Peter Carter out here telling everyone they cant use fossil fuels after living a long fossil fueled life himself.

[@greenhearted8453]

Along with everybody else, buddy. Although you very likely know nothing about his life.

[@dion8962]

@@greenhearted8453 One thing I know for sure is he 100% depends on fossil fuels to live the life he is living. Just like the rest of us.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@dion8962 So what's your point? hahaha. He's just calling it like it is. Humans have been around for - 200,000 to 300,000 years. Agriculture has only been around for 10,000 years - enabling hoarding of wealth to use for warfare, etc. Try studying our original human culture - our mutual ancestors, the San Bushmen. No war. All the males required to be spiritual healers.

[@anthonymorris5084]

Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history, by any measurement you care to examine. After 200 years of warming, 200 years of growing fossil fuel use and 43 years of abject climate hysteria, warming has proven to be mostly benign, easily managed and a net benefit for humanity.

[@greenhearted8453]

You're in for a big shock then.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@greenhearted8453 The unending climate mantra: Just you wait, it's going to get bad, you'll see." Repeat decade after decade in perpetuity. I suggest you stop embracing wild hyperbolic speculations about future events that never materialize and start examining the data from actual events that have transpired. The data proves we are safe and clearly demonstrate the path forward. Meanwhile poverty kills millions of people every single year. Those it doesn't kill, live in abject misery and suffering. Poverty is a far greater threat than warming will ever be, and all climate policies induce greater poverty. The greatest diversity of life on Earth lives in the tropics not Greenland. The climate movement is the threat, not warming.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

"Data proves" - is that from some Star Trek Episode? Hilarious. What Data? Not even ChatGPT agrees with you.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Yay, another infantile troll following me all over KZbin hurling unproductive sarcasm, insults and juvenile comments.