IS RAMY'S APOLOGY ENOUGH? | Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Nick Walker & Justin Shier | Bro Chat #79

In episode #79 of Bro Chat, Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Nick Walker and Justin Shier discuss whether Ramy's apology is enough?
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Important Time Stamps:
16:48 - Big Ram'y apology.
40:26 - The California Pro
1:16:01 - Rate Your Physiques

[@jpgrandi]

The clap originally had the purpose of helping sync the audio; you'd see the audio wave and identify the clap moment, and then sync that with the video frame where the hands touch

[@tedfloresisis]

Duddddde legit thank you for this comment

[@MrDevaney1]

I think Ramy owed an apology to Dennis James more than anyone, the man flew out just to support him and not so much as a message to say he wouldn't make it, so disrespectful

[@seifattia97]

Maybe he did but not publicly

[@pantelisdermitzakis]

Well I think Dennis has his more than fair share...

[@kevinhope5343]

Dennis snitched on him by calling him out publicly. You won't do that to your friends like that. If your friend is not responding and going through turmoil, which Ramy is as of now, you'd try to reach him in private and perhaps be crossed with him till he gets back. You won't throw him under the bus. Dennis did that on purpose to save his ass from the Manions. Having said that Ramy is still cool with Dennis but if I were him I would not be so much.

[@kevinhope5343]

@@filiproh2625 he could easily dodge the question or edit it out from the podcast. The folks here in the podcast always do that, don't they? If you are a friend, you would not do it publicly.

[@MikeD666]

@@kevinhope5343 all he really said was he didn't know what happened when I seen the interview with him with Cormier priest milos he said he needs to actually address it and not have him to do it 4 him

[@Chanrey1Legend]

If Iain and Melissa decide to have a kid, they should name him/her Lillian, like Lil'Iain 🤣🤣

[@Wozzy343]

Something that really impressed me here. Was seeing nick really voice his opinion and engaging well in the Ramy conversation. Since he’s a future Mr.O. Nice to know his head is on right.

[@horseios3655]

Nick's takes on any important matters aren't as sophisticated and intelligent as others on the podcast like Iain or James.

[@karlmeaden6868]

get out of his arse

[@omgitsmsj7150]

since he aint the future mr Olympia and its hunter. correction for u brada

[@SilentDr34m]

@@omgitsmsj7150 lol. Why come and hate on the better body builder?

[@omgitsmsj7150]

@@SilentDr34m nah brada it ain't about. i love nick and ama big fan too but damn some guys here way too random😂 so ama be random aswell.

[@guts4336]

every podcast with Iain needs to have a IOGIYG moment 😂

[@erclsr]

I want a IOGIYG shirt

[@zasiddfit]

What does this mean?

[@duncanyoung8239]

@@zasiddfit It's only gay if you're gay

[@zasiddfit]

@@duncanyoung8239 you’re a gentleman and a scholar

[@stevestokes6954]

Ramy is one of the most humble personalities we could ever meet. His apology was sincere and genuine. He missed a guest posing for God's sake. It is okay, it is not a humanitarian crime to judge him and crucify. It is quite sad to see this moral policing happening for something very minor.

[@kaizersoze2606]

Yeah I agree how many of us have not shown up for work in there life it does happen

[@mbarkbiba]

This thing was blown way out or proportion sure we all would have loved to see Ramy in Pittsburgh but in the grand scheme of bodybuilding it's nothing

[@stevestokes6954]

@@andrewfunston8271 Which friends did he screw over? Don't make things up. He apologized for not showing up and for his silence. It was Dennis James who threw him under the bus, he is the one who screwed his friend up for saving his own face. If your friend is not answering your calls, you will wait for the callback and not publicly shame him. Ramy was dealing with personal issues - whether it be issues with the authorities, family members' passing, mental breakdown or depression, whatever it may be it's none of your business. The funny thing is Ramy is still cool with Dennis.

[@thatjackedwelder]

What sad is how blind you are to his behavior..

[@ddassif6697]

@@thatjackedwelder You are the blind one. Although I don't think there is any point in arguing about it this is ridiculous. You are just hating on him for the sake of hating.

[@summitgym82]

Thanks for the podcast (always!). I’ve had a rough day and watching this feels like relaxing with old friends.

[@karrerkarrer3236]

Ramy's public apology was as authentic as it can get! Life happens, people encounter problems, and people respond to problems in various ways. Ramy has never slandered anyone, he has always championed for Humility and Kindness all through his career. He was always the best example of sportsmanship and humanity. And now he is dealing with some personal issues. It's heartbreaking to see everyone tearing him apart like hyenas for something so easily excused. He missed a guest posing commitment and it's not a grave mistake or crime. What everyone is doing to him is simply unjust.

[@PMTCards]

I think the issue is less with the apology and more with it being like 3 weeks after.. if he was gonna say a whole lotta nothing but just a sorry, he coulda did it that weekend 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@silverfox7410]

@@PMTCards that's okay, people have problems in their life. He may be grieving, he may be mentally in a difficult situation, he may be facing issues in life to come to social media and talk about this. Why are you all making this so much more than just missing a guest posing show?

[@ybeats4718]

@@PMTCards nobody knows what he went through. May be he wasn’t able to do it.

[@PMTCards]

@@silverfox7410 well cause it’s just part of being an adult and a professional. I don’t personally care either way. I agree with Fuaud that he has been arguably one of the nicest people .. however.. when I had a love one die.. I had to call out of work.. when I’m sick I have to call out of work.. when I’m having issues at home, I still have to show up to work.. or I get fired or I get in “trouble”.. and so this is the equivalent for him not calling out of work during an important meeting/task

[@karrerkarrer3236]

@@PMTCards you are confusing your job with his. He is a sports personality competing in a sports federation. It is not in his job description to not miss any guest posing shows.

[@armandogarcia9772]

Huge fan guys keep up the good work!!!

[@steven96ize]

As a bodybuilder I have the upmost respect for Rami and what he’s accomplished. As a fan, I can say that he definitely doesn’t carry the torch the way the champ should

[@kaizersoze2606]

Exactly, and I think Americans just don’t get it either, I’m sure if he lived in the U.S. we would see and hear much more obviously but he doesn’t he comes off as a very conservative humble quiet middle eastern Muslim who happens to be able to pack on serious muscle and is a genetic freak. In the Middle East he is loved like no other. Mr. Olympia ambassador absolutely not but with good reasoning….

[@steven96ize]

@@kaizersoze2606 I agree completely and it’s nothing to take away from Rami or his career. I just think that due to his situation (him living in the Middle East) it makes it hard to promote the IFBB, a federation that mainly operates in the US.

[@mouniraboufadel7385]

@@steven96ize Egypt is in the Middle East

[@666MaRius9991]

@@mouniraboufadel7385 Technically speaking it's in Africa.

[@willthomas7666]

I agree on both sides to some degree.but when your a Mr olimpia champion and a "professional" there's a certain standard.and to show up with other ppl counting on you to be a "professional" and at the very least you let ppl know you can't be there and what's goin on..

[@silverfox7410]

First of all Ramy is not anyone's payroll to treat this profession as a job. The federation doesn't even provide health insurance for the athletes. He is a sports personality and he competes to win. His apology was sincere and out of respect. People should calm down and stop creating a big drama out of this.

[@RichardRatner.1972]

Thank you so much Fouad for the podcast today. Big love, kindest regards,as ALWAYS, Richard U.K

[@chrisneely3069]

Richard!

[@RichardRatner.1972]

@@chrisneely3069 Chris! Hope you're well buddy?

[@astonhickford7889]

This podcast is actually massive. I kid you not, a middle age mum in the supermarket had a hosstile hoodie on. Just shows it’s bigger than bodybuilding!

[@ObiAmajoyiSrMD]

That’s dope. You should have asked her to hit a front double lol.

[@benjaminbruno9007]

Was it enough, is this some sort of joke? It was just a guest posing. I believe Ramy and it was a very genuine and heartfelt apology. Were you all as harsh on Phil when he went after every teenager on the internet, spoke like a thug with all profanity after winning an O, tried to sue KZbinrs, called Shawn Rhoden a donkey, and so on? The list goes on and on. And I don't even want to go into Shawn Rhoden's reign - the guy was about to go to prison and he had more going on but everyone wanted him back badly. Things happen, it is life. Ramy is a good guy, it is okay.

[@ulimuller7892]

clapping as the video take starts can be incredibly helpful as you (as the one cutting the video) see in the audio where the take starts. the peak in the audio line is like your bookmark

[@bjmw93]

I'm 100% with you Fouad, about how hard everyone is on Ramy. He deserves criticism, but he's unduly shit on. Doesn't help some other youtube pages have been dumping on him for years. But, I gotta join the "everybody disagree with Fouad" podcast. Don't hold in gas in front of someone you live with, french toast, and definitely drink milkshakes. Love the show boys!

[@oskarwiegaard]

You just KNOW toxic masculinity shit went down when the podcast is less than 2 hours with these guys. I love it. Should start an onlyfans where you sell the cut clips xD

[@robbiewalker8403]

There was a hard edit point when things started veering towards "you're only gay if you're gay" 😂

[@oskarwiegaard]

@@robbiewalker8403 right before they made picks! When justin changed room too

[@momsPITA]

lol $10 a month just for little clips like that when cut out. Only fans can see it Yes sir

[@ShadowDancerr]

Toxic masculinity? So you mean just plain masculinity

[@cemsari8212]

Toxic Masculinity...🤷🏻‍♂🤦🏻‍♂

[@miamidolphinsfan]

The farting convo - this is why I tune in to watch its comedy GOLD

[@loganslocum4799]

So consistent. Thank you guys ♥️🏆

[@johnbenjamin98]

Great podcast today! Thank you uncle Fouad!🙏🏼

[@oldchudmuffin7313]

I would pay to see what gets cut out of this podcast lol

[@GBimboG177]

Thank you fouad and the guys for the podcast. This makes my whole week. Soo grateful

[@shainnorris5447]

Why isnt nick jokes anymore

[@sahastrajitsingh2646]

I like Ramy. I was just relieved to see his video , knowing its most probably not a health issue. Everything else can be taken care of. As a champion , he is conducting himself the way he deems fit. I hope he deals with whatever the issue was. No need to let us know .

[@kollinday7035]

This episode had me dying. The first 10 minutes were gold 😂

[@jacobcallaway32]

I was the one who Summer said thought Justin weighed 200lbs😂😂 Justin if you’re reading this you’re huge and I love you

[@BroderickBrodie21]

Nice to hear Justin it’s been a while, thank you gentlemen love you all.

[@skylife9688]

I got to meet Justin in the prep room at the Cascadian classic last weekend. Super nice guy. My girl placed 3rd in her category. All in all a great weekend. You guys rock!

[@ROGUESILVER]

Ramy has been doing this since he got the title. That’s where the “outrage” is. He hasn’t done anything as mr Olympia. It would be different if he actually had done something in the past. This is why people like me are just like keep it moving I’m not beat for another excuse.

[@majdeddinzerti3490]

I think you guys are missing something very important and that is where he is from and the restrictions that the government can have on his movement, can you imagine if he wanted to go and planned everything and when he went to the airport they told him go back home and do not inform anyone or there will be consequences and that shit happens unfortunately.

[@MichaelWilliams-yg9ik]

@@majdeddinzerti3490 He can do some social media content from anywhere in the world. He is Mr Olympia, people want to see how he trains, how he eats etc.

[@mikecox6170]

He dissed Manion. If I did a no call no show at my job, I'd be fired. Takes 20 seconds to pick up a phone or text

[@majdeddinzerti3490]

@@MichaelWilliams-yg9ik I understand but it's the same thing the Egyptian government is probably controlling everything he does specifically when he is in Egypt and you can check how the government is very strict about what content can be posted in social media I remember some youtuber filmed some street food and the police deleted the videos because they didn't like them and he had a license for the government to film and I'm not saying that is the reason but all what I'm saying this could be the reason.

[@wyattlightning6681]

Who fucking cares lol

[@panosathanasioy3402]

Dude that notification made me SO happy

[@6shutterproductions]

Thanks for the Friday content boys!

[@rachaelnugent]

i always thought the camera clap was so that you can see the start point from the audio spike while editing!

[@emilevaillancourt3302]

dont get lazy with time stamps

[@ayarimedamine4102]

This podcast made my prep easier ❤️love you fouad

[@ironheadhooligan]

Another good one bro..: thank you boys 🫶🙏🏼🙏🏼💪🏽💪🏽

[@w2sixpackchef]

my uncle works in film/media. So regarding "the clap" they do a clap before a clip for the editing process so they can tell when to sync the audio!

[@coltday4000]

I love all the guys but you for together today was great!

[@JPIQQG]

I think the clap might also help you in editing to see the start of the video or take. Clap is very easy to visually distinguish from talking, music or background noice on the audio track.

[@ConditionallyUsed]

Clapping on camera at the start of video help do audio sync. Video and Audio on different tracks, so when it is edited, the audio can be sync up to the clap.

[@johntommeraas6720]

Hi its the Pasty Prince here aka John Tommeraas III. Thank you for all the compliments and criticisms. Love the podcast and plan on making a lot of posing improvements

[@AdHdEntertainmentLLC]

The clap is for post production especially if your using different pieces of equipment like two cameras and/or a separate recording device to sync the audio in video production software

[@yousufibrahim884]

40:23 lol they cut that out 😂

[@MrUrban55555]

The clap before/start of filming originates from using external audio recorder apart from camera to sync the audio.

[@IronCelsius]

I remember meeting Iain at an Arnold expo in March of 2018. We had a full conversation without saying anything. He was busy eating a meal at a booth, while I was being nosy and staring at him 😂. Seemed like a nice guy after I said “you’re looking great man” ( I think he was 6 or so weeks out from a show). He smiled and gave a thumbs up, while eating 😂. Now he’s very well known by a lot. He’s blown up

[@joserecart3937]

Pople do the youtube CLAP to sincronize all the video and audio sources with adobe or another editor. If you have 2 or 3 cameras, you look for the audio spike and sincronize them before starting to edit.

[@wesselpretorius4345]

THANKS FOUAD. This is so much more entertaining than The Kardashians LOL

[@shanebaker3532]

Fouad I love them thin hoodies! I’m gonna need that in my attire!

[@scogotti7055]

“Someone farted?” “Yea, oh yea” 😂😂

[@MrBusy777]

“The more pizza I eat the faster I run “ 🤣

[@thedarkknightwillrise23]

Some people who are ranting on Social Media are mostly resentful about their lives !

[@thomasmorrell2737]

That's literally this show

[@thedarkknightwillrise23]

@@thomasmorrell2737 Fouad and Iain didn't Rant ! They just discussed the issue maturely.

[@kavbyrne]

I laughed so hard the moment it cut from another IOGIYG conversation 😂😂

[@scogotti7055]

Happy Friday gang 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@thomasousby4546]

Brilliant that an actual example came up that proves Iain’s point is right

[@MrGoheels315]

I hope a Hosstile event comes to NC

[@alexanderpiole5795]

We should play a game when justin is on the podcast 10 push-ups for every time his internet cuts out lol

[@SeanNumalo]

Justin!!!!!! Missed him!!! Been too long! Literally laughed 5 seconds of him coming on 🤣

[@shanebaker3532]

47:13 “Noo she does not!” 🤣

[@delbz405]

we have just been spoiled with great ambassadors of the sport , the standard was set and Ramy hasn’t been up to that standard since winning , of course times are different but even engagement with supporters is possible through social media outlets but shit happens man

[@tmmnguyen4573]

Ian always makes the podcast with his "great" opinions

[@tonyaasb1299]

Seeing the podcast is only 1:48 long 😭

[@Brant_Dunn]

Can you bring back the timestamps so we can skip the ads?

[@SBLifts]

GOD DAMNIT WHAT WAS CUT LMAO

[@jadraad6171]

We love a Justin comeback

[@mmcnamara35able]

Nick's 4 ounce face is priceless 😂😂

[@Orionssj4]

Regarding Ramy I don't understand why his manager / assistant / consultant (anyone literally) didn't inform the show about his troubles currently, hence missing the posing. He is not by himself. But this is just my view.

[@tylershepard3225]

I think it’s shitty because he let dennis James fly all the way to Pittsburgh,and didn’t show up. He didn’t even call Dennis. That’s shows his character.

[@ahmedazzi4168]

The leaner iain gets the excited and agitated he gets and talkative he gets hhhh lol I love it 😂😂

[@Alive1495]

«I’m gonna eat a pizza the day before the marathon Im gonna effin’ crush them 🫲🏻»😂😂😂

[@JoEXG]

Okay okay ill pay the 5 😂 I need a podcast

[@yoinck__]

The clap is to synch the audio to the video

[@Evo-athleticOR]

This is a good group, Justin is a riot, such a cool dude. Ian and nick are always a great too, thanks for another awesome episode. I think Petar Klancir is going to be dangerous this weekend.

[@PurseANUL]

Yes!! Thank you best podcast ever

[@Txdc333]

A good comparison for Ramy not showing up is NBA stars sitting out games for rest. There's always fans that paid good money expecting to see their favorite player play that miss out on that, but the game still happens. The show still happened and Derek Lunsford wowed everybody in his place, people need to calm down.

[@RodPantaV]

Love the show

[@simonstingbaldo]

Nothing better than waking up to a new podcast out, thanks for another great one guys

[@Serpentboats]

why when Justin came on, i instantly thought the Lorax was on the show. lol

[@LusciousBodybuilding]

TBH in my opinion at Ramy's level he should be telling people in advance that he is not going to make it or at the very least the second he found out he couldn't make it juts announce it (i dont expect any details) but just not showing is unacceptable.

[@alexpills8182]

This is my favorite podcast 4

[@scogotti7055]

“Fresh shit air” 😂😂

[@igotcrabs101]

Can anyone post the name of the podcast epsiode that Fouad had a doc on and he was explaining the magnesium is something all guys should take? Wanted to give it a re listen but couldnt remember

[@tylerfreemont2311]

Just in time for morning cardio

[@valentinmircu]

Fouadd put time stamps on every podcast!!!!!

[@llucaristondoalzina2061]

I love how you cut the its only gay if you're gay oart lol

[@dakotasonney2142]

The way Fouad said "oh yeah". I went back it was definitely a fart

[@TwoWebersInTheShed]

The clap is to sync the Audio lmao

[@tashitenzin1597]

Justin’s serious sarcasm and jokes are out of this world.

[@Wolf-es1el]

It looks like ramy is going through alot of problems like last year he couldn't even train for 6 months and now he can't travel so we shouldn't be harsh on him

[@justis142]

That's how I'm looking at it he had issues last year where he couldn't train until June so we don't know what goes on in his world outside of bodybuilding and like the guys are saying he doesn't have to tell us what's going on his world outside of bodybuilding

[@Wolf-es1el]

@@justis142 exactly he may be having mental, family or political issues there

[@johnmaus3582]

God, I love Justin 🤣🤣🤣 “How many dudes though?”

[@8CIC8]

Thanks

[@bfr5621]

Fuad on the motorcycle all day every day. Upload schedule ... Haha I know the fun. Just get a Sena helmet radio with recording option for you and paul. Than you do the podcast on the bike, that would be fun.

[@miamidolphinsfan]

I'm not an athlete but I do the clap but it's where I know to easily start the editing

[@swolluminatiofficial]

Iain definitely got the most bussy in high school 🤣

[@barrykitchen8200]

Father Fuad " Nick , ... Don't sigh Nick "

[@jakobkutela1615]

Iain amped up in prep, gotta love it

[@ethan0073]

Ramy was on his way to Pittsburgh and he was stopped at the airport. He has a conflict with the authorities in Egypt. Who knows, they may even frame for carrying steroids. So you all don't be too critical of him. He is more distraught by the fact that he had to let down everyone again and it has been taking a toll on him as he knows he will get penalized. It was unintentional.

[@nielvanderwalt1965]

lol is that why he took a month to apologise? gtfo

[@ethan0073]

@@nielvanderwalt1965 boohoo, would you have forgiven him if he had made the apology earlier? GTFO, he doesn't owe you an apology for anything. You have no idea, if he hadn't called Manion earlier. This is a public apology.

[@silverfox7410]

@@nielvanderwalt1965 apologize* .. and he apologized publicly for something very excusable. Do you want to send him to Guantanamo Bay for missing the guest posing? GTFO

[@silverfox7410]

@Sharknado Attack go and sue him for not showing up for the guestposing and apologizing late. You all need some jerk at the helm, who would piss off when you approach for an autograph . That's what you all really deserve.

[@nielvanderwalt1965]

@@ethan0073 he doesnt.... the fans that travelled and paid money and took time to go see him... well.

[@Sk.6789]

Tall Poppy syndrome is what Fouad and Iain are talking about, the minute someone starts to grow above the norm and stick out people want to chop them back down to size until eventually they become undeniable

[@Sk.6789]

I think for Ramy or any of the top guys as their fan base and popularity increases it’s so too does the number of haters. 5% of 100,000 isn’t that noticeable but 5% of 4,000,000 becomes very noticeable

[@SSneaks1515]

Iain is very easy to dislike. It’s his personality. This shouldn’t be a surprise to him I’m sure he’s dealt with it his whole life. Maybe he’s totally unaware of it. I don’t dislike him but I was the same way until I realized my surroundings and why I was getting the responses I was receiving. For example in the 10 mins of this video I’ve watched he’s cut the other speaker off everytime, always the first to make sure he’s heard, over talks people…. I bet u whenever someone has told him this in the past he says either the person isn’t credible or they re just a hater. It’s always something other than him looking into himself. I can speak this because I’m the same way and have come a long way. Trying to work towards not being like that. Also I don’t wanna hear oh he’s hyper or he’s an alpha male or hes this or that. True confident, intelligent, “alpha males”, don’t act like that. They listen and know how to assess the temperature in the room, not try to take it over. What do I know tho, I’m not credible 😂

[@alonsolira14]

I absolutely love his personality. Yes, he talks a lot. But the security he displays about his personality, sexuality and the way he builds up his opinions is legs- opening. Hahaha

[@Shockya2352_]

Anyone else get a lil triggered when they aren’t over 2 hours😂😂😂….u the man fouad 💪🏼 thanks for putting out content so consistently.

[@operationragnarok7452]

"You are in the sport of Bodybuilding, but you are not a Bodybuilder " best answer ever

[@AlphaRabbbit]

Another thing to keep in mind is that Ramy said in his video that he could not fly. There could very well be legal issues going on that he cannot discuss. Something to think about until we know the full story.