Four Centuries on the Seabed, The Dresses from the Palmwood Wreck I Museum Kaap Skil

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Museum Kaap Skil

Museum Kaap Skil

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@ahill4642
@ahill4642 Жыл бұрын
It’s nice when we hear of precious history being revered and appreciated and preserved for all. 👏🏽
@stillme4084
@stillme4084 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing. Timeless beauty. Craftsmanship, art. Just WOW!!!
@janetteevans4492
@janetteevans4492 Жыл бұрын
This is truly amazing, that fabric is like none other 4:34 I would love to go to this museum to see it someday
@violetvotes2024
@violetvotes2024 Жыл бұрын
It must have been a terrible loss for the woman who owned these treasures. Imagine wearing that beautiful silver infused dress! She must have glittered, sparkled and shined under the candle light. A beautiful dress to dance in. How sad she must have been to have lost it. I wish she could know how we are marveling at it and treasuring it now!
@jaleach123
@jaleach123 Жыл бұрын
What would be even more incredible is if a portrait turned up showing the woman wearing the actual dress. The chances of that happening are miniscule probably but how great would that be?
@sabine4759
@sabine4759 Жыл бұрын
"Terrible loss"? A loss, I suppose! But remember those were rich people living at the costs of their poor citizens and peasants they were constantly exploiting! Normal people wore second hand clothes , those were handyman, construction workers or employees who were not poor in the sense of the word! But the poor people didn 't wear "clothes" , just pieces of fabric stuff and had absolutely nothing to eat! And those rich nobles didn 't feel any remorse for treating them badly and exploiting them ! So don 't talk about "terrible loss"! Shortly after the sinking this rich lady surely had another precious gown of her own!
@derekrea4876
@derekrea4876 Жыл бұрын
@@sabine4759 You would be correct for some lower class people. However, at that time, in that region, most people were not that badly off. As for the attitude of the rich, I think you are sadly also correct. Religious convictions would mean frequent donations to the poor though, buying their way to heaven, sort of. We are generalising a fair bit though. We are also assuming the lady owner either wasn't on the ship, or survived the wreck, which isn't at all sure.
@derekrea4876
@derekrea4876 Жыл бұрын
You are assuming the lady owner either wasn't on the ship, or survived the wreck, which isn't at all sure.
@tacticutie4277
@tacticutie4277 Жыл бұрын
​@@derekrea4876 There is another video of this dress where a letter was written: Experts on the English House of Stuart found a letter written on March 17, 1642, from Princess Elizabeth Stuart, who mentioned that her sister-in-law Henrietta's baggage ships had gone down, carrying vessels from her private chapel, as well as the clothing of her ladies-in-waiting. So it sounds like this was just packed up to move from one place to another after the owner had already arrived at their destination.
@elizabethsloan3192
@elizabethsloan3192 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a pattern and construction diagrams on this!
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Sadly no patterns or diagrams are currently available, as the textile research results are not yet ready for publication.
@justinwhite6787
@justinwhite6787 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I kept wanting to see more of the Clothing and less of the curators :) What a find!!! Makes you wonder what else must be out there!
@Tinuviel788
@Tinuviel788 Жыл бұрын
@@MuseumKaapSkil Are there possibly any plans to publish the patterns and the findings of the research once it's complete, then? It's fascinating! Truly, what a find!
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
@@Tinuviel788 The School of Historical Dress is working on it 👍
@Tinuviel788
@Tinuviel788 Жыл бұрын
@@MuseumKaapSkil Oh wonderful, thank you so much, that's such great news!
@georgemacdonell2341
@georgemacdonell2341 Ай бұрын
I love the fact that you found a time capsule and a very special one, imagining society at that time.. .
@tefany5500
@tefany5500 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely magnificent info. To have a peek inside some of the most intimate history of kings or queens, aristocrats are even owners of a textile co is so fascinating. The eccentricity of the era is so remarkably captivating!!! WOW
@chocolatefrenzieya
@chocolatefrenzieya Жыл бұрын
Four CENTURIES? How are they still in such good condition? Amazing!
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
This is one of the issues that has also puzzled researchers. There are dozens of wrecks in the vicinity, but none of them have yielded any textiles in a presentable state. Even a woollen sock in an advanced state of degradation is a rare find, leading to the conclusion that local underwater conditions are very detrimental to the survival of textile fibres. So what’s different here? We suspect that the gowns were exposed to almost no oxygen for centuries, and oxygen is a prime driver of decay. They were stored in heavy chests, while the wreck itself was submerged beneath the sediment for most of its existence, only recently washing free. In that sense, the divers were likely at the right place at the right time, before further decay could occur.
@chocolatefrenzieya
@chocolatefrenzieya Жыл бұрын
@@MuseumKaapSkil Thank you for the breakdown! What incredible good luck!
@myrawells5691
@myrawells5691 Жыл бұрын
Incredible! How beautiful! Thank you
@EsmereldaPea
@EsmereldaPea Жыл бұрын
​@@MuseumKaapSkil- were they any remains found with the ship or is it presumed that all/most survived? Had the shop been identified?
@StacyL.
@StacyL. Жыл бұрын
I think it has to do with the silver that's sewn directly into the garment. Silver is a natural preservative and may have given some sort of antimicrobial benefit to the garment. 🤓
@katharineharrison9091
@katharineharrison9091 Жыл бұрын
Everything Emmy de Groot said touched my heart. That it was an emotional experience
@kokonana4086
@kokonana4086 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how the fabric stands the test of time (and sea water)!
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 Жыл бұрын
I can't say for sure here, but in general, objects under water that are completely buried by mud stand a very good chance of staying in much better condition than one can expect otherwise. The Vasa is a good example.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
This is one of the issues that has also puzzled researchers. There are dozens of wrecks in the vicinity, but none of them have yielded any textiles in a presentable state. Even a woollen sock in an advanced state of degradation is a rare find, leading to the conclusion that local underwater conditions are very detrimental to the survival of textile fibres. So what’s different here? We suspect that the gowns were exposed to almost no oxygen for centuries, and oxygen is a prime driver of decay. They were stored in heavy chests, while the wreck itself was submerged beneath the sediment for most of its existence, only recently washing free. In that sense, the divers were likely at the right place at the right time, before further decay could occur.
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 Жыл бұрын
@@MuseumKaapSkil Whatever the case, it is a truly glorious find!
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 Жыл бұрын
@@MuseumKaapSkil A case from NYC comes to mind. When they were building out into the Hudson River, the were doing some excavation work along the existing shore and the uncover wooden beams that were centuries old but just like new. The conclusion they made was that the mud had blocked out all the oxygen that might have penetrated into the wood. And that makes me think of another case. The state of New Jersey once had magnificent stands of white cedar trees that were old growth timber. During the 17th century these were mostly all cut down, but during the 19th century it was discovered that cedar trees had been falling over into the swamps for centuries, and that if one dug down into the mud once could pull them up and they were as good as new when in some cases, they were a great many centuries old. Sometime a couple decades ago I was talking to a man who had helped construct the foundation for a nuclear plant along the Jersey Shore. We discussed the cedar trees and he just nodded and said that when he was drilling preliminary test bore holes, on several occasions he found pieces of good quality cedar among that material taken up by the boring. He said that was found about 70 feet down in the mud.
@user-oj5bw7sl8p
@user-oj5bw7sl8p Жыл бұрын
@@thomasjamison2050 Wow!
@alisonmary1443
@alisonmary1443 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful to see. A body doesn't last that long under the sea but a dress does! Thank you for sharing.
@cherylsmith4826
@cherylsmith4826 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the closeup of the silver weaving- lovely
@marley7145
@marley7145 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the English subtitles!
@barbe847
@barbe847 Жыл бұрын
Would love for museum and Industry to recreate these finds like this dress to get a better glimpse into 17th century high fashion or nobility life.
@emmaorlich7427
@emmaorlich7427 Жыл бұрын
This would be absolutely wonderful! 🙏🏻😍
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Sadly no patterns or diagrams are currently available, as the textile research results are not yet ready for publication.
@kathryn1050
@kathryn1050 Жыл бұрын
How extraordinarily wonderful this find is. Thank you for filming of it.
@bowiekt
@bowiekt Жыл бұрын
Adored this soo much❤❤❤❤❤❤being a textilist/seamstress/ all passions art and history ! Thank you!
@remkeveerling6108
@remkeveerling6108 2 жыл бұрын
Wij gaan in februari naar Texel, vooral ook om deze vondsten! Geweldig om straks te bekijken!
@debbiebrewington7635
@debbiebrewington7635 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Originally a very beautiful gown I’m sure!!!
@okdk7
@okdk7 Жыл бұрын
The pattern looks almost celtic ( at 02:24 ).. Amazing and thank you for sharing.
@carolyngraham2003
@carolyngraham2003 Жыл бұрын
i am curious as to why the colours and form of one dress are beautifully preserved while the second dress is much more distressed. Were they stored differently on the ship or is it due to a difference in the fabric type? Anyone know?
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
They were stored alongside each other and thus in similar conditions, so that likely is not the reason for this big difference. Our working theory is that the silver is to blame: silver oxidates (rusts) in marine environments like most metals, and the silver on this gown is very deteriorated. This has had a strong impact on the silk fibers, as rust tends to demolish everything it touches. The other gown was more ‘plain’ and barely featured any metal accessories, which ironically led to a better survival.
@carolyngraham2003
@carolyngraham2003 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for satisfying my curiosity.
@paulakimmel3280
@paulakimmel3280 Жыл бұрын
Utterly fascinating! Makes me want to study these and recreate a dress!
@MegaLivingIt
@MegaLivingIt Жыл бұрын
Really impressive job of preservation. 🧡
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 Жыл бұрын
Super mooie vondst, Gelukkig hadden de duikers het boven gehaald, Stel je voor dat het verloren was gegaan . Ben zeker van plan nog eens naar Texel te komen en het museum te bezoeken.
@marjoriecoey3418
@marjoriecoey3418 Жыл бұрын
You can still see the costly weave of the fabric❤ how wonderful!😊
@drissboukili6194
@drissboukili6194 Жыл бұрын
Unieke vondst,dank aan de duikers!groet uit Maroc.
@JoeEsparza
@JoeEsparza Жыл бұрын
That is amazing! Great job on the restoration/conservation!
@janeday9148
@janeday9148 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know what happened to the boat & passengers,it looks like a terrible tragedy happened
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
The archaeological work currently does not point to a certain disaster (like fire or war), it is evident that it a horrible tragedy has happened. A terrible storm is the likely culprit, which can result in ships capsizing or crashing into sandbanks.
@oppositeofh8
@oppositeofh8 Жыл бұрын
simply incredible, thanks for sharing this with us.
@merelhoekstra7330
@merelhoekstra7330 2 жыл бұрын
Heel mooi deze jurk ❤
@catherineleslie-faye4302
@catherineleslie-faye4302 Жыл бұрын
OK I clearly need to put your museum on my bucket list... I want to see more of those dresses.
@emmaorlich7427
@emmaorlich7427 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you like to visit the German Museum in Nürnberg one day. They got clothes, too, but older than this dress (i would love to see it!).
@catherineleslie-faye4302
@catherineleslie-faye4302 Жыл бұрын
@@emmaorlich7427 Yes that would be nice.
@nancywysemen7196
@nancywysemen7196 Жыл бұрын
durability is a remarkable and awesome characteristic. outside of rocks and metals and the planet so far-a hint of heaven.
@stormdancer0
@stormdancer0 Жыл бұрын
That copper color!! The only adjective I can think of is astounding. I really would love for someone to study the dress and create a sewing pattern for it!!
@emmaorlich7427
@emmaorlich7427 Жыл бұрын
It would be great to sew a completely new dress and show it on a puppet! 😍
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Sadly no patterns or diagrams are currently available, as the textile research results are not yet ready for publication.
@emmaorlich7427
@emmaorlich7427 Жыл бұрын
@@MuseumKaapSkil But they will be one day? 🙏🏻🥹
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
@@emmaorlich7427 The School of Historical Dress is working on it 👍
@sandfly60
@sandfly60 Жыл бұрын
Lovely. Thank you for the video. I find things like this completely fascinating.
@dianapenn950
@dianapenn950 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Yes, that really is very amazing. How close, indeed.
@trishexploring1508
@trishexploring1508 Жыл бұрын
I loved seeing this but I sure wish you had shown the garments for a little longer on the screen instead of the people talking. Don't get me wrong, I loved the information they were giving,I just would like to have more of the artifacts.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback. We will definitely do that in a sequel! On our website you can find many more photos and information on the finds from this ship. Maybe you'll find it interesting? kaapskil.nl/en/files/file-palmwood-wreck/
@trishexploring1508
@trishexploring1508 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@paulapridy6804
@paulapridy6804 Жыл бұрын
Such Elegance. How wonderful!
@updownstate
@updownstate Жыл бұрын
Wonderful in every way.
@Truckerchick04942
@Truckerchick04942 Жыл бұрын
Wish they would have shown MORE, up close details of the clothing and the type of stitching used rather than showing the people who were talking...couldn't understand a word they were saying anyway.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Hi Jan, we will post more video's on the details of the clothing soon (with English subtitles).
@Truckerchick04942
@Truckerchick04942 Жыл бұрын
@@MuseumKaapSkil I look forward to that, thank you for letting me know.
@AngelavengerL
@AngelavengerL Жыл бұрын
This is super interesting! I wonder if the history bounders like Bernadette Banner have seen this.
@stephannerudder9349
@stephannerudder9349 Жыл бұрын
Would like to see the plait pattern shown on the dress that they talked about, it was lightly shown
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Thanks for you interest and feedback @stephannerudder9349 On our website you can find more information and pictures: kaapskil.nl/en/discover/collection-highlights/the-wedding-dress-from-the-palmwood-wreck/
@LisaG442
@LisaG442 Жыл бұрын
Cloth of gold and silver were reserved for royalty I believe. There were strict rules concerning dress among the classes. So even a very rich Merchant couldn’t array him/herself in the clothes “of their betters”. These dresses may have been bound for a royal woman as a gift, if she wasn’t on the ship when it went down.
@janetannerevans2320
@janetannerevans2320 Жыл бұрын
wish they had done recreations so we might see what they looked like on someone.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Sadly no patterns or diagrams are currently available, as the textile research results are not yet ready for publication.
@paulapridy6804
@paulapridy6804 Жыл бұрын
How exciting! I almost wish I was a textile expert just to know better what I am seeing😮
@IamSquirrel
@IamSquirrel Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. I must stop at this museum during my future travels.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome @Iamsquirrel Texel is a very interesting and beautiful island tot visit! On our website you can find more info on the museum and the exhibitions in English if you like: kaapskil.nl/en/ There is also lots of info on the Palmwood wreck: kaapskil.nl/en/files/file-palmwood-wreck/
@IamSquirrel
@IamSquirrel Жыл бұрын
@@MuseumKaapSkil WOW! Thank You! I didn’t know that the island existed. Dutch is cool with me. I have 2 Dutch ancestors (grandparents)from Amsterdam. They were part of the colony that settled New Amsterdam aka New Netherland. They lived on Bridge Street! I will follow your links.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
That's interesting! ​ @IamSquirrel Thanks for sharing 👍
@tracypaxton1054
@tracypaxton1054 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!!! I'm seeing it but I can't comprehend how something so fragile can survive all that time on the see bed.
@Purrytat49
@Purrytat49 Жыл бұрын
Amazing history found,well done and appreciated.
@AnneSpeeFrickus
@AnneSpeeFrickus 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Prachtig filmpje.
@patricialewis1464
@patricialewis1464 Жыл бұрын
Comments are closed so I cannot ask the question. Where and how was this found please?
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
@@patricialewis1464 The dresses were found near the island Texel in the Wadden Sea (Netherlands). More information about the ship wreck can be found on our website: kaapskil.nl/en/files/file-palmwood-wreck/
@awakenyewhosleeprealityisn4860
@awakenyewhosleeprealityisn4860 Ай бұрын
@@MuseumKaapSkil I imagine that it’s always an amazing experience to uncover a new piece of our past, but such a fragile and ephemeral thing as fabric? Under water? Almost unbelievable!!
@witchdiaan
@witchdiaan 2 жыл бұрын
Geweldig !!
@cield3987
@cield3987 Жыл бұрын
Where was the ship from and where was it going to? I'm wondering about the story of the dress. (I live in the US, my last name is de Groat, a derivation of de Groot. I love listening to the accents in this video even though I don't understand the language.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
It’s always very difficult to determine the origins and destination of wrecked ship from this period, as there very little in the way of writing or engraving left on the wreck itself. It’s usually a question of looking at the ship’s construction methods (in this case, very likely Dutch, from the Amsterdam region), and the main cargo it was carrying. Though most of the cargo was not salvaged, the main goods (boxwood, ceramics, mastic and aniseed) that were seen all strongly point to the Mediterranean region. This suggests that it was Dutch merchantman returning from that area. This would mean that the gowns boarded the ship somewhere along that route (with or without their owners). Its still just an educated guess, as anything was for sale on the Amsterdam staple market, but it is the working theory at this moment in time.
@mieperdepiep6145
@mieperdepiep6145 Жыл бұрын
Nobody knows..... Rich people, says the dress. And another rich dress.... A lot of ships are sunken overthere in those times. The people on Texel speak Texelsdutch, ;-) .
@lenoreleitch5297
@lenoreleitch5297 Жыл бұрын
Where were these dresses within the ship? Were they in trunks? Floating on hangers in a cabin? Would be interesting to know how they were found and where they were situated within the wreck.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your interest! On our website you can find more information about the wreck (and the other finds from the ship): kaapskil.nl/en/the-palmwood-wreck/ In the follow-up video on KZbin, the first part also tells more about the location in the wreck where the finds were made: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aam4Zp2OjM11l6M
@akeleven
@akeleven Жыл бұрын
Please, we need to see an illustration of what the dresses looked like at the time. Where was the wreck found? What other items were found with them?
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your interest! On our website you can find more information about the dresses, the wreck and the other finds from the ship: kaapskil.nl/en/files/file-palmwood-wreck/ In the follow-up video on KZbin,there is some more information about the wreck and the other finds as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aam4Zp2OjM11l6M
@denisedavies5859
@denisedavies5859 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, excellent find.
@rrc2859
@rrc2859 Жыл бұрын
What a treasure!!
@cynthiaholland13
@cynthiaholland13 Жыл бұрын
Is everyone in the speaking the same language? The accents sound so different to my ear. I love the way the lady speaks
@secretgarden3555
@secretgarden3555 Жыл бұрын
💝Welches besonderes Glück für die Nachwelt auch wenn es für die ursprünglichen Besitzer ein trauriges Ereignis war. Ich kann die Freude der Forscher nachempfinden. ein echtes Full House bzw. Wrack ;-)
@rabbitgregory9289
@rabbitgregory9289 Жыл бұрын
Any guess on (1) how much the dresses would have cost and (2) how much time it would have taken to make the dresses? Thanks.
@clairey6407
@clairey6407 Жыл бұрын
What an incredible find!
@celticlass8573
@celticlass8573 Жыл бұрын
Equally as important I think, is to cast a thought to the hard-working and incredibly-skilled people who made these garments. Imagine spending months working on your portion of this dress, only to have it go down with a ship.
@torsten1163
@torsten1163 Жыл бұрын
Faszinierend!
@edwardmcdonough6525
@edwardmcdonough6525 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see the complete piece on a mannequin . Amazing !
@RhondaReally
@RhondaReally Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! ❤
@shirleynitka5030
@shirleynitka5030 Жыл бұрын
knowing that this masterpiece used to be someones wedding dress, gave me chills. Now I have to wonder if it was ever worn. Possibly she was traveling to her new home/country. So sad.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Research has shown that it was probably a wedding dress, but it could have been meant for an other special moment as well. What we do know is that it must have been one of the most unusual dresses which a lady from the higher social classes of Western Europe would have worn in her life. The dress was suitable for special occasions such as engagements, coronations and marriages. If it was worn as a wedding dress, the bride would have been the dazzling centrepiece of the marriage ceremony.
@davewilson9738
@davewilson9738 Жыл бұрын
Incredible and remarkable!
@grose2272
@grose2272 Жыл бұрын
Stunningly beautiful ❤
@eldermillennial8330
@eldermillennial8330 Жыл бұрын
Did you fill the display case with neon?
@nw8000
@nw8000 Жыл бұрын
Is there an English version of this?
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
English subtitles are available @nw8000, you can click the cc and gear icon on the video to get them. On our website you can find information about the dresses, the wreck and the other finds from the ship in English as well: kaapskil.nl/en/files/file-palmwood-wreck/
@barbaramcspadden8655
@barbaramcspadden8655 Жыл бұрын
In 1985 the treasure hunting crew of Mel Fisher found the 1622 wreck of the Nuestra Señora de Atocha in Florida waters. Early 1990s they still were recovering remains which not only included $450 million worth of gold, silver and other precious loot but among the other artifacts were slave shackles bound with perfectly intack hemp rope.
@cynthiaholland13
@cynthiaholland13 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed reading that until the last sentence. As a black person knowing they had slave shackles just makes my heart sink
@sarojinichaudhury179
@sarojinichaudhury179 Жыл бұрын
​@@cynthiaholland13In order to dislike the last sentence , it is not necessary that one is to be 'black' .
@jontwest
@jontwest Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a tragedy that Africans have enslaved & sold other Africans (& others) for 1000s of years, & continue to do so. The British in particular did everything they could to stop Africans doing this in the 1800s, sacrificing 3000+ British lives, & an incredible amount of money. Although they helped many, ultimately the practice continues. Unfortunately modern groups like B LM & their massive corporate funders do literally *nothing* to end slavery.
@jamgart6880
@jamgart6880 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful and fascinating.
@Mikesbite
@Mikesbite Жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@Jjangbunbun
@Jjangbunbun Жыл бұрын
So fascinating its a true time capsule
@breenarnianwarhorse5051
@breenarnianwarhorse5051 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible. 😮✨
@johnlgasper2348
@johnlgasper2348 Жыл бұрын
Truly amazing thank you for sharing
@diane9247
@diane9247 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@E_LithaBeth
@E_LithaBeth Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this
@terpinator24
@terpinator24 Жыл бұрын
Wow! This is soo cool!
@ginojaco
@ginojaco Жыл бұрын
Remarkable and fascinating, how much more is there waiting to be found?
@a.abeyta6237
@a.abeyta6237 Жыл бұрын
Amazing find.
@gitfoad8032
@gitfoad8032 Жыл бұрын
5:19 - this painting is as top quality as this dress, stunningly good. Any takers for the painter/painting name? The more I look at it, the more a tour de force I see.
@zeitreisendernrw
@zeitreisendernrw 2 жыл бұрын
sehr interessant,viele grüße aus Germany
@meghill4537
@meghill4537 Ай бұрын
How did the fabric survive intact?
@andreawashnak630
@andreawashnak630 Жыл бұрын
Is there a book on the discovery
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
A voluminous report has been written (in Dutch) but it is currently sold out. There is talk of a sequel, but it's unclear if that will happen. We will certainly let you know on our website if there is more clarity. kaapskil.nl/actueel/nieuws/documentaire-en-boek-over-onderzoek-aan-palmhoutwrak-collectie/
@Radco2000
@Radco2000 Жыл бұрын
Did they see in the silver strips for the silver's antibacterial properties?
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
No, this ‘cloth of silver’ is all about prestige, glamour and ostentatious displays of wealth. It was hugely expensive and one of the biggest and fashionable eye-catchers available - truly a Cinderella gown.
@conmckfly
@conmckfly Жыл бұрын
Amazing!!
@eyeswideopen7777
@eyeswideopen7777 Жыл бұрын
Thats amazing that the material stayed put in salt water
@karengottschalk3555
@karengottschalk3555 Жыл бұрын
Why did these garments not disintegrate after centuries under water.
@elizabethlinsay9193
@elizabethlinsay9193 Жыл бұрын
They must have been wrapped or encased in some sort of material in a case or chest.which preserved them. That's my reasoning.
@fighterflight
@fighterflight Жыл бұрын
It was covered in mud and sediment shortly after sinking. From the CNN article about this and other Texel shipwrecks: “Many of the ships disintegrated over time - but the shipwrecks immediately covered in mud and sediment experienced a slower rate of decay.”
@lorenheard2561
@lorenheard2561 Жыл бұрын
Lovely!! Thank you to those who rescued all these historical treasures!!🤗💖And a big THANK you as well to those who love history and work so hard to preserve these articles!!👑🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
This is one of the issues that has also puzzled researchers. There are dozens of wrecks in the vicinity, but none of them have yielded any textiles in a presentable state. Even a woollen sock in an advanced state of degradation is a rare find, leading to the conclusion that local underwater conditions are very detrimental to the survival of textile fibres. So what’s different here? We suspect that the gowns were exposed to almost no oxygen for centuries, and oxygen is a prime driver of decay. They were stored in heavy chests, while the wreck itself was submerged beneath the sediment for most of its existence, only recently washing free. In that sense, the divers were likely at the right place at the right time, before further decay could occur.
@atievennik6497
@atievennik6497 Жыл бұрын
Misschien omdat er geen zuurstof bij kon komen? Atie.
@susancurrie2627
@susancurrie2627 Жыл бұрын
Incredible!
@attilatasciko4817
@attilatasciko4817 Ай бұрын
Köszi - thanks : awsome stück .
@karaamundson3964
@karaamundson3964 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@Radco2000
@Radco2000 Жыл бұрын
Also, did these same antibacterial properties help preserve the dress?
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
The two dresses were stored alongside each other and thus in similar conditions, so that likely is not the reason for this big difference in preservation. Our working theory is that the silver is to blame: silver oxidates (rusts) in marine environments like most metals, and the silver on this gown is very deteriorated. This has had a strong impact on the silk fibers, as rust tends to demolish everything it touches. The other gown was more ‘plain’ and barely featured any metal accessories, which ironically led to a better survival.
@marcietorrence5361
@marcietorrence5361 Жыл бұрын
Of all the items brought up from the Titanic, the best preserved items were the ones left in a tightly shut leather case, such as a doctor's leather bag for his instruments. They must have found the dresses in a water tight leather trunk, but I don't think the archivers mentioned exactly how the dresses were stored.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
This is one of the issues that has also puzzled researchers. There are dozens of wrecks in the vicinity, but none of them have yielded any textiles in a presentable state. Even a woollen sock in an advanced state of degradation is a rare find, leading to the conclusion that local underwater conditions are very detrimental to the survival of textile fibres. So what’s different here? We suspect that the gowns were exposed to almost no oxygen for centuries, and oxygen is a prime driver of decay. They were stored in heavy chests, while the wreck itself was submerged beneath the sediment for most of its existence, only recently washing free. In that sense, the divers were likely at the right place at the right time, before further decay could occur.
@TheDowntownHermit-xj6rq
@TheDowntownHermit-xj6rq Жыл бұрын
As the fabric of this gown was woven in with silver. I think that the antimicrobial property of that metal may have retarded the degradation of the silk which also resists degradation. That and the lack of oxygen may have all combined to preserve the gown.
@jaytay8637
@jaytay8637 Жыл бұрын
Anybody know what the dress was stored in when on the ship, more circumstances of its being found on the wreck?
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your interest! On our website you can find more information about the wreck (and the other finds from the ship): kaapskil.nl/en/the-palmwood-wreck/ In the follow-up video on KZbin, the first part also tells more about the location in the wreck where the finds were made: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aam4Zp2OjM11l6M
@abraxasjinx5207
@abraxasjinx5207 Жыл бұрын
Is there an English dubbed or captioned version of this?
@operagirl84
@operagirl84 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a reconstruction of the dress.
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Sadly no patterns or diagrams are currently available, as the textile research results are not yet ready for publication.
@justdoingitjim7095
@justdoingitjim7095 Жыл бұрын
She said the silver wasn't woven in like they commonly did with silver thread, but rather built into the garment. I'd like to know what process they used to do this!
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
The cloth of silver consists of straight strips of silver that have been woven into the fabric. The pattern is shaped in the weaving process, by varying the quantity of threads drawn over (or underneath) the silver strip to suit the desired pattern.
@agnieszkaacka6733
@agnieszkaacka6733 Жыл бұрын
Amazing❤❤
@rebapuck5061
@rebapuck5061 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the reason for the silver. Doesn't silver tarnish? Is this a one use dress designed to impress?
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Exactly, his ‘cloth of silver’ is all about prestige, glamour and ostentatious displays of wealth. It was hugely expensive and one of the biggest and fashionable eye-catchers available - truly a Cinderella gown.
@jmmt1968
@jmmt1968 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, I wonder, have they considered making a replica dress so we can see it as it once was?
@MuseumKaapSkil
@MuseumKaapSkil Жыл бұрын
Sadly no patterns or diagrams are currently available, as the textile research results are not yet ready for publication.
@jsa-z1722
@jsa-z1722 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@ornellausai5236
@ornellausai5236 Жыл бұрын
Che meraviglia 😮
@GerardBoer
@GerardBoer Ай бұрын
Lag mijn jurk er ook nog bij ?
@wildestsquirrelwildestsqui5020
@wildestsquirrelwildestsqui5020 Жыл бұрын
It would depend upon the temperature of the water & whether it was fresh water or salt water with some acidity to it conserving the fabric integrity 🤔
@flamencoprof
@flamencoprof Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that the silver itself contributed to the preservation? Silver and most silver compounds are toxic for bacteria, algae, and fungi.
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