Fox Stevenson: You Will NEVER Use Clipping The Same Way Again (with A/B Tests) [Get A Loud Pro Mix]

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Sol State

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@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Fox's Splice pack is currently #2, lets help him go #1!! bit.ly/FoxSplicePack I suggest his snares
@aptudo
@aptudo 2 жыл бұрын
Terminology clarification for aspiring producers: Saying something sounds "dynamic" means that its energy level fluctuates (generally to have a greater impact on the listener). This definition holds true whether describing a song, a mix, a beat, or a solo instrument. Playing two single kick samples and saying one sounds more "dynamic" because it has a higher perceived loudness is a misuse of the term. The first kick sounds louder (and harsher) than the second kick. The second kick sounds sharp for a split second and then sounds deep and thumpy through the tail. You could argue that the second kick actually sounds more dynamic. But that's not even a typical use of the term. Most producers, if they listen to a track and say the kick needs to sound more dynamic, they mean that there should be more variation in how hard the kick hits, such as between accented and unaccented notes, or in different parts of the song. I hope this helps.
@mcgritty8842
@mcgritty8842 8 ай бұрын
Homie, dynamics are used to define the difference between the loudest and softest parts. When something is dynamic, that means it has varying loudness. If a kick needs more dynamics, you compress it to accentuate the attack which creates the dynamics. Just wondering where you got your degree to be acting like you are the know all for “upcoming producers.” People don’t need your bs when Fox Stevenson is a already a professional
@aptudo
@aptudo 8 ай бұрын
To think it took two years for someone to have enough decency to defend a creator’s honor in the face of my disrespect. Kudos, my friend.
@dhanushbalakrishna7300
@dhanushbalakrishna7300 3 жыл бұрын
At this point, every producer watching Sol's edits be like: Sol,.... ma man .
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hah thanks my man!
@Twat2024
@Twat2024 3 жыл бұрын
"Can you hear this distortion?" *on the background donation* *YEAAHH!*
@cashew_music
@cashew_music 3 жыл бұрын
sol state is channel that changed my way of producing like crazy
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully for the best ;)
@cashew_music
@cashew_music 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolStateMusic 1000%
@CLaw-tb5gg
@CLaw-tb5gg 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so weird coming from a rock mixing background watching EDM production stuff. Because with rock you’re so insanely careful about everything and EDM is just like DRIVE THE MASTER LIMITER TO -1 LUFS CUZ IT SOUNDS COOL LOL
@deadlyrobot5179
@deadlyrobot5179 3 жыл бұрын
@@MassHysteriaHD man I love culprate, do you know a place that I can watch him produce music.
@AirArtStudiosOfficial
@AirArtStudiosOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Believe me it’s not as simple as you think, so many techniques required for both genres!
@MassHysteriaHD
@MassHysteriaHD 3 жыл бұрын
@@deadlyrobot5179 Not sure. He does classes sometimes. I'd search it on KZbin. Culprate masterclass
@deadlyrobot5179
@deadlyrobot5179 3 жыл бұрын
@@MassHysteriaHD thx :)
@squids24
@squids24 3 жыл бұрын
"I just added 12 OTT's to this bass, sounds pretty cool"
@GatitoLetal
@GatitoLetal 3 жыл бұрын
We need more Fox Stevenson videos please Sol. These are Pure Gold
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you (and always appreciate feedback)!
@baxoutthebox5682
@baxoutthebox5682 3 жыл бұрын
EPROM has some of the best streams I’ve seen. Not many out there but he’s a master of sound design (heavy use of granulation) and production.
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Will check em out, thanks!
@baxoutthebox5682
@baxoutthebox5682 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolStateMusic you’re going to mine some real gold from him! He posted a few livestreams on his channel and a user named José Le Magnifique posted several other livestreams that aren’t on EPROM’s channel.
@baxoutthebox5682
@baxoutthebox5682 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolStateMusic something that blew my mind is how he resamples his beats through a granular synth. I think it’s in his “sound design” livestream
@blehm_7403
@blehm_7403 3 жыл бұрын
@@baxoutthebox5682 there’s two called sound design on his channel, one called breakbeat and the other first stream, any idea which one has the granulator thing? thanks!
@sharktheprez
@sharktheprez 3 жыл бұрын
This man needs a de-esser on his mics fx chain lmao
@dragon-id5uj
@dragon-id5uj 3 жыл бұрын
blown away by how many ppl in the audio industry neglect this sort of thing in their videos haha
@takumane666
@takumane666 3 жыл бұрын
he needs a fcking high cut filter at 15k at least there is so much garbage happening when he talk...
@mxbass4888
@mxbass4888 3 жыл бұрын
its not just top end or s’s it’s from his breathe because he’s not using a pop screen
@mcgritty8842
@mcgritty8842 8 ай бұрын
Why yall care? If talking face to face that’s how it would sound… just accept the imperfect audio
@samuelivascu7633
@samuelivascu7633 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, to those people who don't really think this is useful: Stan has a very unique work/production flow and this mixing style really fits his sound, but there are some incredibly useful bits and bobs in here. Eg.: try 50% soft clipping your snares and pushing them into a limiter with the kick by 3db. It's so punchy, especially in genres like DnB and Dubstep. You do you, but this for example worked for me. Also, clipping before limiting is again a universal thing that is fucking mental.
@amazingcori
@amazingcori 3 жыл бұрын
I am learning so many solid skills from your videos recently. especially considering that i'm living in south korea and we got no proper community for music production what soever, i really appreciate it. thank you for sharing!
@altermachina
@altermachina 3 жыл бұрын
You just found yourself a KZbin Channel idea bro ! ;)
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that! And thank you internet!
@JustinNathanielAdams
@JustinNathanielAdams 3 жыл бұрын
What a golden nugget this channel is
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank uu
@hTfvmGNrIZ
@hTfvmGNrIZ 3 жыл бұрын
Some of these streams that Sol will clip and make videos out of, i have been there on twitch watching. This stream I remember and I completely missed this part. Nice work capturing these moments and sharing them. Even if you think youre paying attention there will always be something you miss.
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Even rewatching my videos at different times i'm STILL learning new things too.
@hTfvmGNrIZ
@hTfvmGNrIZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolStateMusic there will always be something to learn! that is the truth! keep it up man link your support site i will happily donate to your channel
@hTfvmGNrIZ
@hTfvmGNrIZ 3 жыл бұрын
this clipping video taught me a lot and helped me transform my sound design, my mix, my loudness.... idk its great when you discover the reasoning and the method - then thoughtfully applying it to your mix.. so thank you for that.
@howir0n1c2
@howir0n1c2 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I never even thought of using clipping to gain perceived dynamics without changing the measured dynamics. Great video as always!
@colinmitchell1287
@colinmitchell1287 3 жыл бұрын
Many masters are clipped by very very expensive units that add a nice jump out the speakers pop (distortion) that is not audible but allows for dynamics to still be perceived (as loud) without destroying the mix and making the limiter/s work hard pushing down transients causing some unwanted saturation. You can clip with many things to saturate stuff. Compressors, amps, distortion units, tape. If the unit clips, it's worth hearing what kind of saturation it can achieve and if it's useful. 'clippers' especially good ones are usually for more control and versatility because they usually have thresholds you can move, instead of having to crank gain into a unit so it clips.
@pham4925
@pham4925 3 жыл бұрын
Basically the difference between amplitude dynamics and spectral dynamics. I don't know if those are real names but! I'm suggesting that in a same volume situation playing contrasting frequencies can still be perceived as dynamic.
@wordierword6
@wordierword6 3 жыл бұрын
fucking christ if fox had a masterclass i would pay for that in a sec this man knows so much
@dp_297
@dp_297 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite channel on youtube right now! Love the content, thank you. Keep it up please
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@Hogboy345
@Hogboy345 3 жыл бұрын
1:00 first one sounds so much better lol, who wants a "soft" snare?
@dirkchurlish4074
@dirkchurlish4074 3 жыл бұрын
And it's ALL about context. Fox isn't really touching on any of the real issues that clipping and dynamics relate to, which are more contextual in nature
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
For DNB, i much prefer the clipped snare. Important to consider context imo.
@davidasher22
@davidasher22 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed a few people questioning his use of the word “dynamic”. By definition dynamic means energetic. In music the term is used for volume. We say a song is dynamic when it has a range in volumes like in classical music. But when he says a single snare or bass hit has dynamics he isn’t referring to dynamic change. He’s referring to its energy and perceived volume.
@itshedz
@itshedz 3 жыл бұрын
Fox Stevenson is a Legend!
@clicktrack2936
@clicktrack2936 3 жыл бұрын
ooh I sparked some controversy that made it into a Sol State video. cool! :D I still disagree though. Would highly recommend the plugin Perception AB for doing loudness-matched before and after. Decide for yourself if clipped sounds better.
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sparking this! Totally fine to disagree!
@Pikermanertjie
@Pikermanertjie 3 жыл бұрын
The point is that after clipping, the overall input volume decreases in the meter so matching the input before and after would be have to be pushed to the same level which happens to be quite louder. I love how he put it "infer how loud something was" changed the way I think about clipping. Nailed it.
@kingyonkobeats411
@kingyonkobeats411 3 жыл бұрын
I used similar technique using GVST Gclip, it's a free plugin. If your Kick peaks around -9db then clip it at same volume then turn up the gain like 6 or 9db and listened to it closely because it's sounds louder but peaks the same volume at -9db.
@Hexspa
@Hexspa 3 жыл бұрын
First off, Mr. Stevenson seems to be an accomplished musician and engineer. That said, I listened to his music on KZbin Music and found it lacking in punch. It's indeed limited but I think there's a way to have both consistency and transients. Maybe parallel dynamics and distortion are two ways and judicious transient designing is another. In the example at 2:59 where he compares an unlimited mix and the limited one, he could've turned down the snare and boosted the overall level. Then he wouldn't need to smash the whole thing so much. This way he could retain dynamics while having higher RMS level. A lot of this is taste. If you like flattened, crispy records then that's your prerogative. I think that, instead of an all-or-nothing approach, we can both not fear limiters but also let in a little level dynamics for more punch and deeper depth.
@edelpino-music
@edelpino-music 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Context is also important. Folks tend to compress to hell or clip just for the sake of doing it and not really paying attention to the effect in the whole picture of the production.
@Hexspa
@Hexspa 3 жыл бұрын
@@edelpino-music And then there's the argument that the newer generation grew up on smashed audio so they actually prefer it. I feel like I'm somewhere in the middle - I don't like riding my volume when listening to Dark Side of the Moon but I also like to feel a little kick in my headphones.
@tilda140
@tilda140 3 жыл бұрын
So refreshing when someone knows wtf they're talking about(your comment) . I like seeing him work and the information he shares but I would never dream of working like this.
@iFeelGlee
@iFeelGlee 3 жыл бұрын
god i love fox stevensons mixes.
@anonymanonym6472
@anonymanonym6472 2 жыл бұрын
This and good eq + sat makes the difference in DnB/Dubstep
@lusiselmascapo
@lusiselmascapo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this and all the videos you've been giving us 🧡
@OverdriveMusic
@OverdriveMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Love his track High Five! Had it on repeat for ages!
@tasenova2717
@tasenova2717 3 жыл бұрын
I always limit my hihats but I use this bit crusher plugin called krush to make it sound fatter and then you still changed the velocity of the notes it's hitting so even though it is always hitting -12 or -15db before limiter, it sounds dynamic and much more lively, and kicks are always clipped just sometimes less so than others
@jon0830
@jon0830 3 жыл бұрын
please keep up the good work, very much appreciated it
@loicvalenti
@loicvalenti 3 жыл бұрын
hey this is a super good video thanks man !
@elliotjensen605
@elliotjensen605 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Can someone clarify what the "clipping/folding the snare into the master" tricks is? Just clipping the snare so it doesn't trigger the master limiter?
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
The master has a clipper on it, he's just boosting the volume of the snare into that master-clipper till it folds into the waveform nicely.
@elliotjensen605
@elliotjensen605 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolStateMusic ahh thanks
@Gnurklesquimp
@Gnurklesquimp 3 жыл бұрын
Even aside from the dilemma of the battle between snappy transients/room in the mix vs. a wall that smacks you in the face and can sound more ''dynamic'' for it, dynamics aren't just overal amplitude either, it's also the freqs it's coming from. It reminds me of things a lot of rappers do, you'd think a straight pulse on the lead element of the track would sound straight and boring, right? Until you consider all the expression that can go into what looks like a straight pulse from one perspective, maybe you rhyme every third word for a polymetric feel, then you alternate two rhymes in a different pattern to end the polyrhythm, while saying every second word louder for an upbeat feel, while raising your general pitch every last 3 8th's of each bar, while adding some of this there, doing some of that there etc. And all that is bouncing off the groove of everything else, just like how one note sounds so different over the course of your harmony. That's another thing I learned, I LOVE colorful harmony, but certain colors are locked behind leaving stuff out, think of some exotic pentatonic scales etc. The point is, there's unique grooves locked behind things that some would think automatically make things less groovy, and this applies to so many things just like dynamics and note selection, there's no hard rules in music and the best course of action can seem contradictory to your goal, guidelines exist, but they're not universal and definitely never the only way.
@zeotex2851
@zeotex2851 3 жыл бұрын
Stan is a master of his cwaft 💝
@whitex4652
@whitex4652 3 жыл бұрын
You have an URL to download that cwaft plugin? Can't find it...
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Love his attention to detail!
@zeotex2851
@zeotex2851 3 жыл бұрын
@@whitex4652 Heres a vid on how to install it, Stan uses basically only cwaft (TM) on his master: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moLaZapvjMyLmbM
@Hogboy345
@Hogboy345 3 жыл бұрын
I think for the style of music he makes limiting it to hell probably sounds fine. Would not apply this thought process to most genres though.
@setmabl1381
@setmabl1381 3 жыл бұрын
Same thought
@erikmccauley2088
@erikmccauley2088 3 жыл бұрын
Dubstep makes my ears bleed. I appreciate the technicality of it but generally speaking I hate the mix downs the artists put out.
@calvinschatzke5899
@calvinschatzke5899 3 жыл бұрын
@@erikmccauley2088 yea, that's one of the main reasons why the artists who invented and developed dubstep all hate skrillex. There is an awesome movie in yt: "all my homies hate skrillex" Reeeally worth watching!
@Hogboy345
@Hogboy345 3 жыл бұрын
@@calvinschatzke5899 Original dubstep records had real dynamics and they still sound great.
@calvinschatzke5899
@calvinschatzke5899 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hogboy345 exactly. I LOVE those deep n dark tunes. I mean.. Music is about creating tension and release. Without sweet dynamics u miss one of the major attention leading formulas. ^^
@Vegan_Kebab_In_My_Hand
@Vegan_Kebab_In_My_Hand 3 жыл бұрын
Been doing this, agree that it's a great technique
@EL_Aura
@EL_Aura 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I was talking to him during this stream! ayyy!! Suuuch a good stream! Double Edit! This video is what I wanted to clip from twitch! amazing thank you!
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@howtowi-fi3229
@howtowi-fi3229 3 жыл бұрын
Fox🦊 is always on point 💯
@calvinschatzke5899
@calvinschatzke5899 3 жыл бұрын
On some elements it's really necessary but not on everything. U would destroy the nice dynamic contrast and end up with an amateur mix. But having a clipper right before the limiter in the mastering chain makes the limiter work sooo much better if u know how to use it . But the kick's & snare's transient for example should trigger the limiter most and that's why I think they should preserve enough transient information. DON'T join the loudness war, friends. Lets making some art instead.
@HKMOfficial
@HKMOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
that part^^^ this guy gets it
@franzkano8851
@franzkano8851 3 жыл бұрын
Nice info!
@partypopofficial673
@partypopofficial673 3 жыл бұрын
3:06 what track is that? are there any sessions with that one ? sick!
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what the track is, ask Fox on his Twitch
@CBPM_
@CBPM_ 5 ай бұрын
Baphometrix also proves this (in a good natured disagreement with Dan Worrell) where Bapho uses a Clipper on every track and Clips to Zero Db. If you use KClip you can also easily test the clipping since KClip has an Auto Gain function so the volume decreases whilst you push the signal into the clipper, and then you can reset the volume. This helps isolate the clipping vs just more gain.
@Barnet310
@Barnet310 3 жыл бұрын
Hold Your Colour (Noisia Remix) just look at the waveform and then you’ll never worry about over clipping/limiting again
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Noisia are next level!
@dijjidog
@dijjidog 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you know but noisia actually helped fox with his debut album
@sony_mdr7506
@sony_mdr7506 3 жыл бұрын
While this is excellent information, it helps my productivity when I don't think about this type of stuff. I just tend to overthink everything and the "mixing" side of things really mess with my musical flow. For me if it sounds exactly how I want it, its a success, doesn't matter how I got there.
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Good advice, I've heard many great producers not focus on the technical side of music until the SONG is done
@addpatternmusic1109
@addpatternmusic1109 3 жыл бұрын
great video! love it
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@marcinklimek8065
@marcinklimek8065 3 жыл бұрын
This is knowledge...
@Makhwax
@Makhwax 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, fox became so slim :)
@Dark_In_The_Light
@Dark_In_The_Light 3 жыл бұрын
Although I enjoy listening to dance music, it's just squashed too loud, cause everyone wants their music heard above the rest. Music sytems have gotten so much more powerful that it's really not necessary, though. And listening in headphones puts your ears through hell. Cause the perception of the sound is dynamic, when its actually just a cacophony of noise for them to process. I'd rather make and listen to music that people want to turn up, rather than have it rhetorically loud, regardless of whether or not its good. I remember being in music college with a guy who made shitty dubstep, and he played his stuff ridiculously loudly to me, boppin along, and I was like "making it louder doesn't make it sound better". Many times I mix/EQ with a LOWER volume, because I can actually hear the vibe and dynamics properly.
@JeydetaJosen
@JeydetaJosen Жыл бұрын
Omg what a cool channel is this?!?!
@bemusi
@bemusi 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to hear the clipped kick and non clipped kick at the same RMS rather than just peak level. You can have two files peak the same but when the RMS is different the volume is perceived different too. The by squaring off the file of the clipped kick the RMS will be much louder but if level matched by RMS rather than peak it would be interesting to hear if the clipped kick still comes out more punchy? Great video!
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Would be cool for another video!
@teweone
@teweone 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@grantgibbs4803
@grantgibbs4803 3 жыл бұрын
Fox is in another league. a true master of his craft
@diegothepokemontrainer
@diegothepokemontrainer 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so crazy rn that a big record I see lots of DJs playing, Dreams from Morten and Guetta, I used as a reference track and I realized it has clipping when I zoom in to the waveform but I don’t perceive it. This video might really be onto something.
@oliscottmusic
@oliscottmusic 3 жыл бұрын
stream gang where we at
@DANYALLAYNAD
@DANYALLAYNAD 3 жыл бұрын
With some of these it would be good to get a short clip of one of their tunes at the start so what they are talking about is in context
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@melsoro7311
@melsoro7311 3 жыл бұрын
I knew clipping was the technique of gods as soon as I heard my first death grips song
@mayasur7315
@mayasur7315 3 жыл бұрын
Hands down one of the most educated dudes in the music scene🙏.
@CJMattias
@CJMattias 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to drop by and say, I've been using clipping exactly the same way since seeing this video.
@leandromagalhaes308
@leandromagalhaes308 2 жыл бұрын
ableton?
@ErickT_MX
@ErickT_MX 3 жыл бұрын
5:03 AMEN
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 3 жыл бұрын
How come I keep seeing that same pastel blue and pink background for titles, in different music production videos??
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Cause I edit the videos 😂
@marcosrotllan
@marcosrotllan 3 жыл бұрын
If i understood... Send whatever puts you on problems to the master for preserving the mid lows in the tracks
@shadowgauge3249
@shadowgauge3249 3 жыл бұрын
I think it might be beneficial to point out that you are dealing with actual recorded waves vs softsynths, as well as the fact that in some DAWs, you won't hear the damage done by clipping until you render it... And are you clipping the sound, or clipping the output... Because it seems like your saying you can clip your master channel and it's not a bad thing... While mixing in the red does have its benefits, at least if you dont understand sound dynamics, it's never ideal... However using a clipper or a soft clipper as an effect when everything is leveled correctly has great benefits to your sound... I just deal with having to explain this dichotomy to noobs constantly because they we watch a video like this and think your saying it's ok to smash there sub into the master.
@JeiShian
@JeiShian 3 жыл бұрын
damn I need to rethink my mastering... are there any stock ableton plugins that are good for clipping/limiting? I can't get good results for myself
@infektdubstep
@infektdubstep 3 жыл бұрын
Glue compressor with the range all the way down and the "soft" option on is an excellent clipper
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
G Clip is free vst, and so is clipshifter (from video)
@j.r.a.inthacut8148
@j.r.a.inthacut8148 3 жыл бұрын
Glue compressor turn on soft clipping and turn up the output
@ManpahulSingh
@ManpahulSingh 2 жыл бұрын
2:12 nope. It does not sound more dynamic, it just sounds louder. I also think that perceived dynamics exist. When we clip something that is dynamic, the dynamics are converted into distortion levels (louder parts get distorted more and quieter parts might not even reach the clipper threshold). So in short, if you are losing dynamics in amplitude, you are gaining dynamics in distortion (and energy). I totally agree with this. But this comparison of both the kicks and one sounding more dynamic than the first is stupid. Both sound wayyy different from each other. This does not sound like a fair comparison. (This might be wrong but worth a shot) I would like to propose a fair comparison: have both the kick samples levelled on equal loudness (LUFS) and then try to compare it.
@stevenswisher4339
@stevenswisher4339 3 жыл бұрын
Every producer on youtube: rule number 1 we do NOT clip, cannot be fixed never do it. Sol: yeah clipping adds dynamics 🤣 Love the videos bro keep em coming
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you understood the video
@stevenswisher4339
@stevenswisher4339 3 жыл бұрын
It was just a joke my guy, I enjoy your content
@edc-nq8tw
@edc-nq8tw 3 жыл бұрын
TRUTH!!
@ta-ya-music
@ta-ya-music 3 жыл бұрын
can someone tell the list of plugins he used to check the phase correlation and everything?
@djvoid1
@djvoid1 3 жыл бұрын
Don't think of trying to achieve super low LUFS readings as a necessity. Think of it as a 'flavor' or 'vibe'. "It sounds like dance music"... Yeah, a particular kind of dance music. If that's your jam, then it's your jam. IMO extremely compressed mixes are just as much of a fad as gated reverb on snares was in the 80s. It's a sound that belongs to a window in time (late 2000s-early 2010s) and had it's 'heyday' at that time (think Nero, Skrillex etc). If it suits your genre, then fine, do what you gotta do and squish that shit. If it makes things sound better to you, then do it. BUT! It's no longer necessary to squish every sound be competitive. You don't need to feel insecure about your mixes if you're not hitting ridiculously low LUFS readings. Beyond -8 LUFS and lower, if you're squishing out of insecurity, you're just throwing audio information away for the sake of numbers. The bigger the sound system, IMO the better a dynamic mix sounds (conversely, a more compressed mix will sound better the smaller and less powerful the sound system), so if you're making music for the club, for my tastes, I say keep it dynamic! Or if you like the sound of over compression, keep it squished. In other words, you do you.
@AURofficial
@AURofficial 3 жыл бұрын
OMFG I didn't know you can fit in a sub-frequency snare with a sub, is this magic or what? lmao
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I think you're missing the point
@AURofficial
@AURofficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolStateMusic Maybe I didn't get it haha
@antonioe.2396
@antonioe.2396 3 жыл бұрын
tip for you guys: Free Clip is a very good free clipper, hence the name Free Clip
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bud! Clip Shifter from the video is also free
@flyoverfredusa
@flyoverfredusa 3 жыл бұрын
wow
@synmaticmusic5494
@synmaticmusic5494 3 жыл бұрын
Carpenter Brut is a good example of how good limiting and clipping can sound. I still don't know how he does it lol
@twoserpents2457
@twoserpents2457 3 жыл бұрын
Mick Gordon as well. +1.5 on the master...
@synmaticmusic5494
@synmaticmusic5494 3 жыл бұрын
@@twoserpents2457Ah I see, thanks. That would explain why the volume is always ducking on spotify
@NVRSE500
@NVRSE500 2 жыл бұрын
@@synmaticmusic5494 do you have your volume level on loud? That setting essentially puts a compressor on your waveform and ducks dynamics. It really fucks up well mastered songs, so you gotta be careful not to have it on loud.
@NVRSE500
@NVRSE500 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck me his mixes are powerful. He gets everything to sound so crisp and sharp without them competing at all.
@synmaticmusic5494
@synmaticmusic5494 2 жыл бұрын
@@NVRSE500 I wasn't even aware of that setting haha. Thanks for the heads up!
@griffingibson4389
@griffingibson4389 3 жыл бұрын
What do I use to digitally clip? Just a limiter?
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Different sound, similar goal. Pick the sound you like more
@77377
@77377 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! (:
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome! You'll learn a lot ;)
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT 3 жыл бұрын
This video has an HUGE flaw, visually analysing dynamics by exclusively looking at the waveform instead of at a spectrogram. A spectrogram would have shown and explained the dynamics still present in a hard clipped sound.
@jmuzzyy
@jmuzzyy 3 жыл бұрын
ayy thats me at 2.35 :) Disagreeing with someone in the chat xD
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Niceee
@komodinotubesco
@komodinotubesco 3 жыл бұрын
I have yet to understand how some producers manage to reach -1.5/-2 LUFS in the drop (without destroying the track), for example on Jaron - Sonder or San Holo - bb u ok? (Lizdek Remix)
@ilya6355
@ilya6355 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently you can do it by having quieter parts of the track. Unlike RMS which measures loudness of past few seconds LUFS is calculated for all track (2-3 minutes) and if you stay under -14 LUFS overall (for most streaming platforms) , by having quieter parts you can have really loud parts for short amount of time
@j.r.a.inthacut8148
@j.r.a.inthacut8148 3 жыл бұрын
Check out how Skrillex routes and mixes his tracks
@NVRSE500
@NVRSE500 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilya6355 I find it hilarious how that one feature of streaming services has flipped the loudness war on its head, and made dynamic mixes the better choice again.
@Lumax96
@Lumax96 3 жыл бұрын
how would one only push the highs of the snare into the limiter?
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Multibland limiting? Not sure I would tho...
@NVRSE500
@NVRSE500 2 жыл бұрын
You'd have to use a multi and limiter on just the snare, or just engineer the snare sound beforehand to squash the high end but still have a punchy fundamental. I don't recommend it in general tho because a snappy high end is what helps give a snare its punch, as that snap essentially mimics the snappy sound of absolutely smashing a real snare drum. It tricks your brain into believing that the snare is incredibly loud because it has the sound signature of a very, very loud snare.
@touffedaviau8370
@touffedaviau8370 3 жыл бұрын
*plays a single sound* "That's dymanic" I don't think he understands what dynamics are... 😅 Very interesting video though 🤔
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I think Fox understands dynamics better than 95% of producers.
@Moleculardnb
@Moleculardnb 3 жыл бұрын
@Kofta Ball Transient -> Body -> Tail. Being able to perceive all of those in a kick rather than a flat body, that's when a kick is dynamic.
@touffedaviau8370
@touffedaviau8370 3 жыл бұрын
@@Moleculardnb That makes sense. But when he said "that's dynamic", it didn't sound (to me anyway) like we could hear all three more "dynamically" 🤔
@touffedaviau8370
@touffedaviau8370 3 жыл бұрын
I think sometimes he's just mixing up dynamics and perceived loudness
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisan_al-ghaib Thanks for explaining, if possible I will clarify in future video.
@samstandard4715
@samstandard4715 3 жыл бұрын
anyone know of any metering/visualizer plugins that look like the one hes using?
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
"schope" is similar and a bit cheaper, "sm exoscope" is free but not as much detail. DMG and Izotope have some products too.
@emiel333
@emiel333 3 жыл бұрын
At 3:36 😆
@fridmanator
@fridmanator 3 жыл бұрын
Kids growing up listening to fully compressed music teaching younger kids about dynamic. Sheesh, their grandchildren will listen to a Pink Floyd album and wouldn’t understand why the volume is changing all the time.
@AnymMusic
@AnymMusic 2 жыл бұрын
2:36 I've watched this bit over and over again and I still don't get it
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I think the point was loudness (aka compression) is kinda the sound of dance music. If dance music was super dynamic, like a symphony or something, it wouldn't sound as good.
@HumanBeingWithFeelings
@HumanBeingWithFeelings 3 жыл бұрын
5:14 could anyone kindly explain to me what he's doing there?
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
He's boosting the volume of the snare into a clipper on the master for maximum sub bass.
@HumanBeingWithFeelings
@HumanBeingWithFeelings 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolStateMusic hey thanks for the answer, so if I understand correctly the limiter is only shaving off the high frequencies where the transient is while the lows of the snare are being enhanced?
@OverdriveMusic
@OverdriveMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I clip snares quite often. And I like turtles 🐢
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
With a name like that, I hope so!
@eliyost6538
@eliyost6538 3 жыл бұрын
What clipper is he using?
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
ClipShifter i think
@sean.jamieson
@sean.jamieson 3 жыл бұрын
It’s LVC Audio’s Clipped Max. They make great stuff. Their Toned Max Eq is a Fabfilter killer for a fraction of the price.
@maxricemusic656
@maxricemusic656 3 жыл бұрын
it seems like you are using the word "dynamic" as if it means "loud" but it does not. Dynamic is how far apart in volume the quite parts are compared to the loud parts. A song can be more dynamic and less loud at the same time......
@moonofnanites9514
@moonofnanites9514 3 жыл бұрын
He says "digital clipping" when he means "hard clipping". Digital clipping is almost impossible to do under normal circumstances, when working in-DAW, most DAW's work with at least 32-bit floating point integers for internal audio, which means enough dynamic range for most practical work without true digital distortion.
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I think he means hard clipping in the digital domain, yes
@alaeifR
@alaeifR 3 жыл бұрын
All you can hear from his mic is like pfff ttssss kksss pfff
@TraxtasyMedia
@TraxtasyMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Does Loudness war still exi~?
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
on CDJs, yes!
@bhaveshtochabbra6853
@bhaveshtochabbra6853 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, this channel is free?? Id pay double the price of pornhub membership for this invaluable content.
@officialsentiment.
@officialsentiment. 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt understand the last tip
@tutunuitekanawa3940
@tutunuitekanawa3940 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus, I think this changed my life Hats off
@nexusobserve
@nexusobserve 3 жыл бұрын
Yup turn up the channels, it sounds good
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hence the cickbaity but true title, enjoy clipping!
@dox1755
@dox1755 3 жыл бұрын
Sol State never miss
@IPH-1212
@IPH-1212 3 жыл бұрын
feel like this one is only for edm lol
@Septurez
@Septurez 3 жыл бұрын
that snare hitting the master clipper with the kick is not really ideal for djing not a fan when those elements arent tight
@rent2386
@rent2386 3 жыл бұрын
homie thinks everyone’s a softie
@SolStateMusic
@SolStateMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Think he just REALLY like clipping
@wouterwouterwouterso
@wouterwouterwouterso 3 жыл бұрын
he uses the word "dynamic" wrong... i guess he means "it's louder", when he says it's more dynamic
@micro2cool
@micro2cool 3 жыл бұрын
No he means there's more perceived dynamics, it sounds dynamic when it isn't
@RyanMarshal11
@RyanMarshal11 3 жыл бұрын
@@micro2cool How is it "dynamic" when literally every hit is the same volume. This video is garbage, no offense to fox stevenson or sol state but this is setting people up to think clipping everything into the red is acceptable
@micro2cool
@micro2cool 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanMarshal11 Low frequencies take a lot more energy to have the same perceived volume as higher frequencies, so by squashing a percussive sound with a high then a low frequency, you will perceive the extremely compressed sound as still having some kind of dynamic range, even though it doesn't.
@wouterwouterwouterso
@wouterwouterwouterso 3 жыл бұрын
@@micro2cool dynamics are the difference between the quietest sounds and the loudest sounds... he uses the word wrong, but i know what you mean.
@lukekessler2503
@lukekessler2503 3 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: use analog clipping instead on actual analog outputs. Thank me later.
@thurofly229
@thurofly229 3 жыл бұрын
you mean getting over zéro in the daw ?
@lukekessler2503
@lukekessler2503 3 жыл бұрын
@@thurofly229 Nah, you’ll clip through the out on your analog gear before it even reaches the DAW. And there is a difference between analog clipping vs digital clipping: www.realhd-audio.com/?p=2181
@salbright83
@salbright83 3 жыл бұрын
Im not sure you are using the word dynamic in the correct sense… dynamics in music is the contrast between loud and soft…the varying levels of volume of sound in different parts of a musical performance. the more you compress, the less dynamic your song will be, because then the whole track will have relatively the same perceived volume/energy…think about modern pop songs when an artist sings vs whispers, or verse into chorus.. if the whisper has the same perceived volume as when the singer is belting out the chorus, then it isn’t very dynamic…(this happens when the whole song is over compressed) a extremely dynamic vocal performance will cause you to want to turn the vocal up during a whisper and cause you to want to turn the volume down during the belting chorus… this measurement is dynamics… the difference between perceived volume…. (High and low) If you compress the whole song then the whisper becomes the same volume as the yelling and belting… this is not very dynamic… the greater the Difference in perceived volumes is the measure of dynamics… if you just compress one sound the sound becomes less dynamic by default..( the quiet part of the sound becomes closer to the loud part of the sound, as the loud part gets squashed and the quiet part gets boosted, creating less difference between the too, thus, less dynamic… )
@EDAPE
@EDAPE 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think this dude knows what dynamic means.
@robbielinden448
@robbielinden448 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think you understood the video
@EDAPE
@EDAPE 3 жыл бұрын
@@robbielinden448 MB you don't understand what dynamic means either. Dynamics refer to the changes in volume of the material. This dude is playing kick drum samples, saying the compressed one sounds more dynamic. In as much as a kick drum dample can be dynamic, the compressed one is, by definition, less so. You might like it better. It may sound louder. But it is, without a doubt, less dynamic.
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