Pam Hupp’s victims discuss the TV show

[@terabyte6166]

I’m so happy for Russ…and, grateful for his cousin Mary and his family and friends, Joel Schwartz, Chris Hayes, the Post-Dispatch and Cathy Singer, et al….for their perseverance and never giving up!

[@igotbandaids]

I don’t see anything wrong w his phone call. Why can’t people realize he was in severe emotional shock and couldn’t evaluate what he was seeing. So weird they can’t understand.

[@jimpagano2343]

yep. after this situation first happened and the police honed in on the 911 call, I learned 911 operators have strategies to calm down a freaked out caller by asking for details like location, etc, but if the caller has a few seconds they will start thinking about the shocking aspect of why they called in the first place, and dispatchers call it a "refreak". A 911 dispatcher went through Russ' call and said she didn't hear it as "someone *acting* distressed, but someone that is 'refreaking'" kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpOzgHqrbK6pbJY&ab_channel=ChrisHayes

[@justinjones9579]

He was in severe emotional shock and he was high

[@canaryinacoalmine7267]

Prosecutor Cheney is responsible for that disabled man's death. She should pay the ultimate priace.

[@ShyAnn291]

Unfortunately there are people who have committed the crime who act the way he did, the difference being is he obviously did not do anything wrong! Edit: I was just giving an example as to why they were suspicious of him.

[@canaryinacoalmine7267]

@@ShyAnn291 I disagree with you. I do not think he acted suspiciously at all. That woman set him up and the Prosecutor acted maliciously.

[@beachstreet101]

The show accurately portrayed Pam. If you watch the real tapes of Pam you can see the eerie similarities.

[@victoriaomdahl9890]

Yes Renee Zellweger did a fantastic job. Honestly nailed the character. She perfected the ill vibe of Pam. You can really see her fake smile while she hurts you tone. Creepy woman. I had a friend like her once. She was making me sick. I finally ended up in the hospital. All the while acting like my best friend and co worker. She made me sick and robbed the company for thousands of dollars. Luckily she got fired and I came back to work. Cuz I would not work with her. She is still out there. I could never prove it. However I haven't been sick since she has been gone. So ya there are nutty wack jobs everywhere. Be careful..

[@boosqueezy2418]

i am very happy for them!!!! if anyone deserves some good in his life, it’s Russ.

[@danielledenis5160]

I'm so happy they found each other....they seem like really nice people

[@boosqueezy2418]

oh, and tell that evil D.A. that playing video games does not equate to committing murder.

[@debbiemenges6569]

I am happy for Russ, but sad that the girls and him don't talk anymore.💔 Maybe, people will start looking into our messed up judicial system more now. The family court is beyond messed up in Madison county Il. Making kids go to visit their abusers without ANY safety protocols in place. All about the lawyers making money, nothing to do with the best interests of the kids. Sad and wrong...😒

[@lizadivine3785]

Thank eating disordered tony Evers for every poopy thing that happens in Madison and good luck to ya.

[@julyann2010]

HAH!! Its been messed up since 1789!!!!! Corrupt for a reason, keeping the rich in power and the system flowing!! You should google how many rapists are out and abt in your area. Edit: sorry for being aggressive it just pisses me off too.

[@selfesteem3447]

😱😰

[@OttoMattak]

Wishing everyone touched by this case the very best. Well, except Pam. I wish her something else altogether.

[@blackjakko]

The fact that the police were consumed with getting Russ is seriously BAD, Corrupt, Incompetent and equally terrifying as Pam Hupp.

[@canaryinacoalmine7267]

That disabled man died because Prosecuter Cheney neglected to do her job. She should be in prison and be held liable for his death.

[@mswinner2473]

Exactly! That poor man!

[@sunnyadams5842]

Why do things like this just disappear?? This legal system is SO BEYOND broken. 😮

[@Artificial_Intelligence00]

Facts

[@Lizwindsor]

Pam comes off as Narcissist in the show, loud and clear.

[@sunnyadams5842]

She is a Classis!!

[@selfesteem3447]

Pam Hupp is a CLASSIC PATHOLOGICAL GRANDIOSE narcissist AND ALSO A CLASSIC PATHOLOGICAL GRANDIOSE PSYCHOPATH. FACTS. SEE SAM VAKNIN !!!

[@TheHippieCowgirl]

Anyone with even a crash course in psychology would say that everyone deals with trauma differently.. Russ’s phone call did not seem off in the slightest. This was confirmation bias all the way with the police and prosecution. Very much looking forward to seeing the outcome of the prosecutorial and investigative misconduct investigations. Get em.. slime sometimes wears a badge and holds an office.

[@DM_21]

The Noor Jasmine channel presents an excellent video reviewing the Pam Hupp story. I thought that you might want to watch it.

[@MarylandLawGirl]

Has Askey ever expressed any regret that she sent the wrong person to prison?

[@meme7262]

No I see her interview she will not admit she made a mistake

[@ObvPhotography]

If you watch the newest dateline “The Real Thing About Pam” you realize Pam and Leah are two of the same. She says the Luis murder has nothing to do with Betsy’s murder. I can not stand her!

[@haleyjade6853]

Absolutely not. And honestly, even tho she’s never actually come out and said it, the way she talks in interviews seems like she’s still saying she sent the right man to prison. I mean, now with all the new information we have you’d have to be a fool to think Russ actually committed this crime. Yet Leah seems to act like she still made the right choice. It’s very bizarre.

[@sunnyadams5842]

​@@haleyjade6853It gets boring and repetitive, these Narcissists and the Narcissistic systems we have in place. We need to stop arguing about stupid stuff like gender and solve some REAL PROBLEMS!! NO offense to anyone struggling with Gender Disphoria etc, it just needn't be SO FRONT AND CENTER in the public discourse.

[@Juju-l3o]

she’s so stubborn she never admitted it

[@thaissilveira207]

I loved the show. Amazing acting. Renée was perfection. The funny aspect made me more scared. We don't expect someone bubbly to kill you. Watching the show I didn't think she was/is crazy. The funny aspect made her eviler and terrifying for me.

[@anarizmoore]

I just made a comment with similar thoughts...

[@tld8630]

Totally Agree 🎯

[@LuzMaria95]

I agree‼️

[@victoriaomdahl9890]

I think the light cartoon vibe is like what's going on in Pam's head. Just la de da no thought or care to the lives she destroyed in her wake. Its mind bending. Especially Russ and Mariah. So many people suffered and had their lives completely ruined. The DA & judge and original cops deserved the defamation 💯. In a discussion we pondered how many other people may have been shafted. Russ had an army of angels on his side bringing justice. How many don't.

[@Shan-ShanH]

I hope that the jury members who convicted him can’t sleep at night. For the rest of their lives.

[@ssmele]

I’m just grateful the truth came out, and he’s free again!

[@All5AJz]

Lots of things get left out when making a show from reality.

[@lizadivine3785]

I wish Carol and Russ never ending happiness!

[@rainbowsunshinekitty3953]

What's the show? Where to watch?

[@vanessapyo7331]

It’s called The Thing about Pam & I watched it on Hulu (6 episode miniseries).

[@brieladitty125]

It’s also on NBC if you have cable. 😉

[@MarylandLawGirl]

And Peacock with far fewer commercials

[@rainbowsunshinekitty3953]

Thanks everyone!

[@creativegirl9710]

yeah, Rene Zellwinger was really good! I don't know how she kept a straight face while playing such a weirdo.

[@Myperfectshell]

What a crazy story. The snow was great!

[@gailjohnson2761]

I am so glad he has some one…….second chance

[@DanysDollHouse]

I don't think the thing about pam read as funny knowing the real story you literally see the wheels turning in her head u see the calculation and coldness....i think it was accurately depicted bc in essence this story is sooooo crazy if it wasn't documented it wouldn't sound real

[@lindsayeller8649]

Russ deserves a good life. I'm happy he and Carol got their happy ending.

[@vl-c7079]

The show was great, Pam is crazy as f****

[@sunnyadams5842]

It's so sad. COrruption is rife!! The stories about murder and mayhem are no longer about the criminals and their victims. Those are often pretty straight forward stories. What following True Crime has revealed lately is that the intrigue comes in trying to figure our where the corruption in the judicial process stepped in and fucked it all up. And why. ...

[@StaceyJoy14]

Man, Pam was really a thorn in Russ’s side for a looooong time. But it looks like one good thing did come out of it, setting these two up! Funny how God works

[@DM_21]

The Noor Jasmine channel presents an excellent video reviewing the Pam Hupp story. I thought that you might want to watch it.

[@sunnyadams5842]

​@@DM_21Thanks for that. This case has finally made it's way to the top of my head. Was looking for good coverage. Thanks❤

[@DM_21]

@@sunnyadams5842 you're welcome!

[@jc6229]

I've never heard anyone say "evidence" the way this guy does.

[@anthonysears871]

Wow. They are not under feed!

[@sunnyadams5842]

😂😂😂 good Amer'cans

[@sunnyhutton1260]

I'm wondering if there were any suspicious deaths before Betsy that Pam may have been responsible for. Best wishes to Russ & Carol, God Bless you both.

[@margyb7469]

Her mother died. She had dementia and it was made to look like and accident, yet Pam was there that night. Her mother also had high levels of sedatives in her system. Pam and her siblings got a $100,000.00 each from the estate and her mother also had a 1million dollars live insurance.

[@sunnyadams5842]

​@@margyb7469I don't know the deets of this case too well yet, but if history shows truth, insurance scam murderers are not usually one offs. Bad luck just seems to follow certain people.. Like fires and stomach pains around them all the time!! Suss to US!😮

[@Shan-ShanH]

I would like to see the response of Pam’s actual victims family. Because they’re making a joke or a satire out of what she did in this series. I’m offended for the actual victims.

[@sunnyadams5842]

Oh grow up!! And lighten up. WOKIE offense is so last decade.

[@Artificial_Intelligence00]

@@sunnyadams5842 Stop making up words Pam

[@niamhyniamhy8198]

I don't know that I could help an actor reenact the worst moment of one's life

[@anarizmoore]

I actually thought the TV show great. I took it seriously. The comedic overtones was appropriate even though good and innocent people lost their lives, the tone made it less overwhelming to watch.

[@violette80]

What a lovely couple! I hope Betsy watches over them ❤

[@kathy282009]

This guy went through hell because of pam and those two "daughters " how ungrateful really. Good luck Ross

[@paulettebollinger9938]

cops just get so focused on the person, no evidence to convict him so bad.

[@sunnyadams5842]

The cops get focused on solving the investigation and moving it on to another dept. It's bullshit and it has to stop!!

[@sym3125]

I hate that him and his stepdaughters don’t have a relationship anymore. It’s sad for everyone

[@sunnyadams5842]

Stop!

[@sgringo]

WHO IS CAROL MCAFEE?? You briefly mention that she met Pamela, but that tells us nothing. 🤦‍♂️

[@beewalk34]

Poor Russ❤

[@sunnyadams5842]

What do you MEAN?? LUCKY RUSS!!

[@louisejones798]

Wow wow wow wow. I the the nut had some help. Look closely at her son. His elevator doesn’t go all the way to the top😂

[@ToshaRaeNailed]

It came off that she was a narcissist

[@sunnyadams5842]

You got it true first time!! Go to the head of the class 😂

[@Artificial_Intelligence00]

This man spent years in jail because the police and D.A. refused to prosecute a Karen

[@Michealst1]

Im sure the amount of not guilty people serving sentances in jail would shock you all.

[@sunnyadams5842]

We all know, everyone in jail.is INNOCENT 😇 of course!!

[@Artificial_Intelligence00]

@@sunnyadams5842 Stop it Pam

[@raquelwilhelm719]

Omg poor Russ this is so sickening

[@peggygibbons479]

Russ should never have to buy his own beer at any place ever anymore! And I hope he bought his sweet new girlfriend a new tooth :)

[@songforseptember4697]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm dead

[@edrrobb1988]

Wow

[@sunnyadams5842]

Can he buy me some too?? 😂

[@randygalvao4962]

Show was good….great story how things worked out for Russ and even better he did only 3 years instead of 10 or more until retrial….

[@mswinner2473]

Poor Louis and poor Betsy!

[@spencerburrows624]

Lmao. WHAT???? I can't believe they are together

[@jamier3089]

Glad he got out of this mess Pam Hubb got her carma 😂

[@lvlysticgirl]

I'm sorry, but all of your friends don't all lie for your the same way. This guy had multiple alibis and a receipt from Arby's making out impossible for him to commit the crime. There was no dna evidence either. Poor guy. And it just goes to show, innocent people get convicted and go to pridon. Some never get out.

[@waqarkhalid3331]

Go cousin Mary

[@aleahberylaine5311]

The comedic tone was needed. The show was so dark and did a great job at making Pam an unlikable killer. She is sickening on screen I can't imagine irl.