Apple River stabbing trial: Prosecution questions Nicolae Miu [FULL]

Nicolae Miu was cross examined by the prosecution in the Apple River stabbing trial on April 9.
The state pointed out Miu's false statements in his interrogation video compared to what he testified to on Tuesday.
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[@paulbear5664]

Never talk to anyone until your lawyer is present. Everything is designed to entrap you. The best defense attorney I know has a simple rule - never ever talk to the police without your lawyer present - ever

[@MaisyMimi]

Is it Bruce rivers lol

[@tmcurly]

Well a lot of these folks don’t watch KZbin let alone read the comment section. They are clueless 😜.

[@AJ7813]

I am a LEO and what you stated is the absolute fact. Just say “lawyer.” Keep repeating it if necessary. However, a lot of people feel the need to try and explain too many details and information.

[@CatalinaFOIA]

​@@MaisyMimiyes that is my lawyer. Retainer is high but worth every penny!

[@barstad-9591]

This is absolutely NOT ‘entrapment.’ Not even close to what entrapment means.

[@kaynesovereign9372]

Regardless of where you stand on this trial one thing is for sure. This is a clear lesson in why everyone needs to mind their own damn business.

[@MikeyDebo]

Ain’t this the dam truth..!!!!!!!!!

[@lukejacobson9544]

And not to be rude to others

[@preexisted4780]

Agreed, except to intervene in a crime that is taking place.

[@bethford6884]

The defendant approached the teens in the river. He grabbed their tube, and he was clearly the aggressor in all of it. It was not self defense, he's a murderer.

[@UrbanHiker317]

Now how about when an older adult male physically assaults a smaller female teenager? Your daughter? Your neighbor? "Only thing for evil to persist is for good people to do nothing." Do you, but maybe not complain.

[@hockeynmma1992]

Nothing would have happened if people would just mind their own business!!

[@PositivitySpeaks101]

Exactly

[@melsafken764]

??

[@mcbillygoat]

Miu is a guilty murderer.

[@montefisto]

I think Miu's guilty, but I do believe that the 2nd group (especially that Maddie chick) really, really, REALLY escalated all of this. Which is funny (dark funny, morbid irony), as they claimed "oh, we have experience in bars de-escalating things, we can help"

[@player12mea]

since we all know, that’s not human nature so kind of ridiculous to say.

[@wildwest1832]

Nothing about this looks like self defense to me. He attacked a bunch of random kids that did not even do anything to do him. His response afterwards makes him really look bad though. No attempt to help. No sympathy. Never called 911. Never stayed to explain to cops what happened. The whole shock story is nonsense he clearly was unphased.

[@Sosozanyway]

Everyone talking about him lying, but so far every single person who has been called to the stand that was involved in the incident has lied.

[@Lilmsjaymo]

Including him

[@Sosozanyway]

@@Lilmsjaymo well yeah, I said every person called to the stand...

[@lacyrussell6688]

Some people don’t know how to read…

[@Sosozanyway]

@@lacyrussell6688 lmao right.

[@YourDadVR]

Yeah, but Mr.Miu lied about his knife. In the the interrogation video he said he took the knife from one of the kids. Then he ditched his knife after the stabbings & tried to play it off like it was one of the kid’s knives. I don’t think innocent people ditch their weapon like this & lie about it.

[@Just_another_nobody.]

I have followed quite a few trials like this in the past couple of years. What I have learned: The state is not your friend.

[@peace1963]

No kidding! You are their suspect they are there to specifically put you in jail.

[@Nohomiskis]

Yay! We’re learning precedent!

[@sistermaryfrances4480]

Why should the prosecution be your friend that's the dumbest statement I've heard in awhile they're trying to convince a jury of what you did

[@joseabreu-nn5cu]

STOP defending dumb teenagers. They harmed him FIRST.

[@JohnMoran]

@@sistermaryfrances4480 I'm guessing you support every war they push at you, right?

[@jeffruthe3258]

This is a perfect example of why you never talk to police. Whether you're guilty or not.

[@orangedrone]

He forgot that he didn’t remember

[@benedictcumberbatch4275]

Guy looks like Neagan of the walking dead.

[@henlohenlo689]

that's bad advise because it can add charges of obstruction which is illegal. should just obey cops and answer easy questions.

[@Peyton-bv1nn]

@@henlohenlo689 that is not true. You can request an attorney in a situation like this. You do have a right against self incrimination, you do have a right to remain silent. You find yourself in this situation, ask for an attorney. In fact, once you request an attorney, it’s a violation of your rights for them to continue to ask questions.

[@jaynedrayton9511]

they led him to believe he could have one but not til Monday. Shocking@@Peyton-bv1nn

[@kingduran007]

Every single person has lied in this case

[@tiffanytirey9747]

Exactly

[@RodolfoBarrera-y9r]

😂😂😂😂

[@missjddrage1111]

They were drunk and they don't remember.

[@pro-val5734]

the camera never lies

[@Tatti2202]

It’s been 2 years and they’d all been drinking

[@philipeli1192]

He has aged a lot in 2 years,stress is killing him.

[@kathy-ex8jh]

I agree

[@SaintBluri]

He lost a lot of weight from being in jail

[@Elliot0318-py2re]

He has lost a lot of weight because he isn't coming home and drinking multiple beers every night like his wife stated he did. He looks healthier here than he did then

[@PositivitySpeaks101]

And he lost a lot of weight

[@uncleswing4046]

He looks better imo. Thin and fit as opposed to fat.

[@Christy1126]

Why isn’t the cameraman showing the video? So annoying!

[@kathleenclark815]

​@@JackFromWyomingNo. It's because it's too gruesome

[@hoidoei941]

@@kathleenclark815Speak for yourself

[@shcaskey]

It’s on KZbin

[@lovewins7412]

Not as annoying as the prosecution whispering 😂

[@dougstaines986]

The trial is being broadcast for public interest, accuracy and education. All evidence must be shown or all those criteria are defeated. Show all the evidence!!!

[@divinecampos9703]

I dont feel bad for him either ... hes a grown grown man and made a lot of mistakes in this as well. Even liying himself ... just a shame . All of this .

[@melissatrujillo4896]

Everybody had just 2 beers in this trial....

[@hoidoei941]

Actually they measured alcohol levels. The least ‘drunk’ kid (the one who died) was already leveling 0.219 and that’s quite a lot

[@fuckoff505]

​@@hoidoei941he's making a joke that they were lying

[@perryrush6563]

The older brother admitted to 4 or so.

[@matthewfoor4487]

LoL just like when people get pulled over.. they always just had two beers. Gimme a break

[@Grammichal]

⁠@@matthewfoor4487 Law enforcement, said Mr. Miu had no appearance or scent of alcohol.

[@PNWJEEPER01]

This guy's attorney should never have let him testify. Holy crap that was a train wreck for the defense.

[@mortalclown3812]

It was his decision.

[@LoudestHoward]

He's claiming self defense which is an affirmative defense, he pretty much needs to testify to explain his state of mind and his side of the situation, no?

[@PNWJEEPER01]

@@LoudestHoward Yeah, I get that; and considering that all the lying and strategic memory lapses make him look guilty a.f. from the outset he didn't really have any good options, but man was that a $h!t show.

[@rawveganterra]

Yes after seeing the interrogation I knew he would not come across well on the stand I was shocked to see he testified.

[@rawveganterra]

Brain damage from alcohol and pharmaceutical drugs. 💉💊🙃😶🫥😑😥

[@fluffy2749]

no one has to remember they just have to watch the video

[@Lisa-vj6pz]

He was in disbelief that's what that smile was about

[@missjddrage1111]

There's two sides to the story.. and his does fairly make sense.. but I think he was too intoxicated and annoyed that the whole video plays out like he knew exactly what he was doing.

[@princejohn6560]

exactly, instead of listening to contradictory statements you can watch what actually happened.

[@AnaGarcia-cg4yo]

Yes and in the video you can see some spoiled intoxicated kids bullying an old guy that was the same … we need to know how to raise our kids, now they are crying cause they were stabbed , but at the time they were laughing and bullying and hitting a person … so sorry not sorry .. as a mom I would be so mad but honestly they were so wrong and there’s consequences

[@tiffanytirey9747]

​@@AnaGarcia-cg4yoI agree, they instigated the whole situation and made it worse. If they would have helped the man or asked instead of bullying. Then none of that would have happened.

[@banjax80]

Prosecutors aren't about finding the truth, they're about manipulating facts to win their case.

[@rharnevious]

To be fair thats what Defense attorneys like to do too

[@beckyg.9087]

Only old angry people agree with you 😂

[@banjax80]

@@beckyg.9087 and people with common sense.

[@jamesdoesitmatter]

​@@banjax80Or those who have seen both sides of the system.

[@Auuman]

And nobody​ agrees with you lmao@@beckyg.9087

[@kevincharbonneau5953]

Absolutely nobody had to die that day

[@houhou71]

Agreed. If the kids would have just shut up and listened amd helped instead of whooping around like drunken monkeys and attacking the guy, then nobody would have been hurt. Parents need to raise their children better and teach common decency again.

[@sayloth]

Fafo

[@gimpfoot]

@@houhou71yep! 100 percent correct!

[@MickeyKimsey]

@@houhou71or maybe if he would have just waited a few minutes for them to float passed and clear the area, not invaded their personal space, accused them of stealing his phone, assaulted a girl, oh and probably if he wouldn’t have brought that knife to confront them dam rowdy kids.. and him being drunk probably didn’t help his decision making, I guess he’s not a responsible adult, and he’s obviously not a reasonable person but at least he doesn’t have anger issues, he stabs multiple kids that were minding their own business until he barged in and planted himself in a perfect scenario to unleash all that built up suppressed anger while he’s drunk and found a group of kids having to much fun minding their own business.. yep but he’s the victim.. you people are sick. And you just heard all the same evidence and testimony that I did.. what is wrong with your comprehension skills, probably just your biases but really?

[@dontdopacket]

@@MickeyKimseyfor real

[@sunshinerainbows3759]

The physical altercation… it was seconds, not minutes. It’s really nice to sit, removed from all emotion, and break everything down frame by frame.. but that’s not how the brain works. He is, in my opinion, clearly traumatized. This whole thing is awful.

[@Mary-f1k8t]

Definitely.

[@coleengogerty3852]

He isn’t traumatized. His demeanor is exactly the same as it was when he attacked those kids. He’s not crying. He’s not sad. He’s not even a little upset. He is just robotic and cold.

[@AdoreYouInAshXI]

@@coleengogerty3852 You're not a psychiatrist to say whether or not someone is upset. He could be traumatized and hate that the incident happened, yet not sit there a bawl like a baby. Just because that's what most women would do doesn't mean he is uncaring.

[@pro-val5734]

the adult could walk away and let it go. but this asshole just couldn't

[@heatherstafford7287]

Not half as traumatized as though those stabbed I bet

[@alexander9264]

He's not always truthful. This doesn't help his case.

[@sheiladikshit5110]

severe case of amnesia... he doesn't remember.

[@unyieldingrage1389]

⁠@@sheiladikshit5110y’all make sure make a lot of excuses for your kind about anything huh 😂

[@sheiladikshit5110]

@@unyieldingrage1389 they don't think it be like it is, but it do.

[@aayanrussell7972]

​@@sheiladikshit5110😂 that's ridiculous.

[@phuckyou6314]

@@unyieldingrage1389our… kind? You mean humans?

[@Jacelyn-tn6mq]

What is really disturbing to me is, when his friend approached, kids were bleeding in the water yet 911 was not called by the friend when he returned to his group. What kind of people are these?

[@wvrjl]

EXACTLY! Miu also has no problem recognizing his friend in the water, when he supposedly "couldn't see anything"

[@motogem1408]

It also seems he doesn't remember all the bad life threatening decisions he made towards others but yet he remembers every detail in what they did to him. Even if it was a lie. He still remembers only how he was brutally attacked, with no bruising or river rock marks on his body. It's weird how his memory works. He didn't even remember telling his group to leave, but he remembered being afraid of the guy in the forest holding a bat.

[@Jacelyn-tn6mq]

@@motogem1408 Exactly

[@paulnonaca964]

I didn't like how this asshole acted after and kept lying.

[@paulnonaca964]

​@@motogem1408he picked and chose what to remember if it fit his defense narrative

[@rahul-qo3fi]

Sad part is when I read these comments every one thinks he did this in self defense,but the defendant himself knew at the time that he was not acting in his defense, hence his actions like getting rid of the weapon, not approaching police forces , lying to deputes about the incident. Makes me wonder what kind of people are here!!😢

[@Mary-f1k8t]

It's called trauma.

[@deltron3030z]

Panic doesn’t make you guilty, dumbo-

[@PhilipOlson-dc8vm]

This is actually correct - if this was a straight forward fight for survival - you would want to tell everyone what happened and to ask for help to be saved and you would want to get authorities to capture and detain your attackers.

[@augustusgrim1446]

It's called fear of going to jail, because he knows he stabbed people. He was trying to avoid the potential. We have no idea whether it was because he was truly trying to hurt people or because he was defending himself. It's common behavior, if not honorable behavior for someone to fear when they kill someone even if they did it in self-defense.

[@justingale3463]

Literally none of that matters when there is a video showing what happened. He was scared no one would believe him and didn’t know there was a video recording to back him up.

[@RyanStapleton-ge2xm]

He's his own worst enemy for acting like he didn't know what happened

[@debidehm9129]

How many times have you done something wrong and tried to deny it? I’m sure everyone has at one point or another. Who knows what each of us would have done in that same situation.

[@jacquelinesoat4824]

OMG All the others remember everything differently or not at all.

[@triciac1019]

When people are in shock, they don't remember things. One of the surgeons that operated on one of the 17 year olds testified that that happens.

[@triciac1019]

One of the surgeons that operated on one of the boys testified that when someone is in shock, they don't remember things.

[@leelunk8235]

RYAN+ I DONT REMEMBER ANYTHING NOT EVEN WHAT YOU WROTE

[@Miss_Cherry]

I have no idea why people are siding with this guy. Those kids didn't go to him, he went to them. How about let them float by and then look for the phone.

[@robm4393]

I doubt he was looking for a phone.

[@BongzillaBrutus]

He was most likely worried the kids stole the phone or would I they stumbled on it first but doesn't want to say so. That doesn't make him guilty. I'll bet you've never been in a scary situation involving a mob or your life and it shows.

[@swisscheeseplease97]

Doesn’t matter. The kids are the ones who pushed him down in the water, and punched him in the face. He’s allowed to wander around in the water, looking for whatever he was looking for. The kids escalated everything and started the violence first.

[@a.N.....]

He had violence in his heart to stab people.

[@tugboat2]

Who is to say the kids were stopped resting like the man’s group…

[@CKing-388]

This man stopped a group of teens basically accusing them of stealing a phone that didn’t they steal.

[@sallychasen1793]

@@CKing-388 this man is pure evil. He intended to go looking for an altercation with these boys. I'm still very confused as to what he was thinking that day. Doesn't seem to be normal behavior but he probably wanted to impress his friends, or just emerge in the News, as a lone man who gets attacked in a river and used self defense. He wanted the fame of something like that, but I'm still wondering what his motives were. None the less, he thought he could get away thinking he did the world a favor by gutting rowdy teenagers. It just amazes me that he thought he was going to be okay and if you notice, he was still raging with anger during sentencing. I was sure he was going to blurt out something towards the Judge. He wanted to do this, he wanted other adults and law enforcement to side with him. He didn't value the boys as humans, they deserved to die, because they were drinking underage and he wanted people to know he exposed their sins. He wanted credit for his efforts of ridding the world of these devalued teenagers, during the trial, you can see his face searching for approval and recognition from lawyers, law enforcement and other adults

[@alinalindt4676]

​@@sallychasen1793Pure evil is raising a bully. Pure evil is making up a story about a person being a "pedo predator" and escalating the situation calling people to join you with bats for "help" 13 against 1.

[@sallychasen1793]

@@alinalindt4676 it was proven the 13 to 1 was a made up defense tactic. Not true. Obviously, you didn't watch the video

[@sallychasen1793]

@@alinalindt4676 Did you see the video, did you watch the trial? Miu lied at every question and even tried to manipulate the Prosecutor's questions. Miu eventually, although it was very painfully slow to watch, admitted to each accusation, but with a much painstaking process, between the attorneys. Miu threw the knife away after the stabbing. I watched this entire trial numerous times to see every detail.....For the life of me, I can't understand what his intent was, he had his hidden agenda, and I'm confused if he was trying to show off for his friends, of what a "versatile average man to defender of knives on the river Hero". I don't fault you for your opinion, but you have to acknowledge his lies on the witness stand and with LT Hart. I really want to to know why he thought he could do this, and walk away to his Jeep. He almost got away. People who are in self defense don't hide from law enforcement and throw the weapons away. Ariel should also face charges for lying to the Jury ,claiming he didn't see anything, when he was standing next to Miu while he gutted the teens. Maybe there's something left over in his head coming out of Romania, that he was conditioned to think killing was somehow okay, or approved of, if you're the adult. That's one point, I noticed that he felt entitled because they were "drunk children ". He thought Madison Coen "should correct the children ". All I know, is he's a VERY odd man with unusual thoughts of who should have rights to drink, use marijuana, or even be on the River. He thought he was the the Ruler of the town. The statement of Madison having "alcohol on her breath "....as if he was in charge and he could judge everyone. Miu has deep raging anger, you could see he was still very mad at sentencing. I'm surprised his wife wasn't butchered at some point in their marriage, she certainly wasn't safe with that man, and never knew it. She seems like a sweet simple woman, her life has been shattered, but probably she's safer now. I could see he had this in his mind, when he took the knife out. The Jury got it right

[@motomaiden]

Prosecutor can't do anything without co- counsel whispering hints. Terrible!

[@jameswagstaff3612]

Prosecutor is a ingnorant idiot defending bullies and their stupidity .MR HUI DIDN'T STARTTHE BS THE WANTABES CAUSED THIS WTF up.This is what is happening today. No respect, No trust Nohonrr No brains!!!

[@AMYV3]

Lol lol there are two people there for a reason to work together !!! This happens EVERYDAY in our courthouses, at the best trials Watch a random trial. Try OJ these are the best of the best and they be whispering the whole trial. Do research before you talk. 😏😘

[@micclay]

Because this case is so weak and should have never been tried.

[@DrBellaLJ]

Agreed. The other attorney should be doing the cross examination

[@hope4humanity222]

It was extremely disturbing to listen to co-counsel give him instructions! So corrupt!

[@StarleneJohnson]

I have met and worked with a lot of engineers and only met one with a "convenient" bad memory, regardless of their age. Mui is a mechanical engineer. He had time to walk away and not cut up anyone.

[@justsayin3600]

I'm surrounded my engineers, and have been for 30 years. You must live in the twilight zone. An engineer's memory is like any other person's memory, some good some bad. Nevertheless, I know from experience that when in a high stress environment, and the adrenaline is surging, a person's memory of detail will not be the same as sitting taking notes in lecture, with a text book with the purpose of memorizing detail.

[@rumpleforeskin9543]

Alcohol

[@MMorrow130]

And the kid could ah e walked away instead of being cut.

[@joetyrrell7589]

No matter where you stand on this case we can all agree this prosecutor sucks, “right”?

[@pugachevskobra5636]

Nah. I think you're incredibly incorrect and borderline stupid. He got the defendant to admit to lying multiple times in under an hour and overall he seems angry, temperamental, untrustworthy and violent. That's the mark of a great prosecutor.

[@John-zz5gt]

Correct

[@basiahellwich3505]

no, that is your opinion, you cannot assume your opinion is everybody else's opinion, you are not in my head nor the other people here watching the trial & commenting. I actually think the Prosecution did a very good job, I also think the Defence did quite well, Miu, in my opinion failed miserably & the Prosecutor did a great job, exposing him & the lies, he doesn't remember but admits these things happen, he just doesn't remember them. This is not a football game, it's a stabbing, killing on the Apple river on a sunny afternoon. You don't know the person, neither do, I however do have an opinion about carrying weapons, why did he walk away leaving 1 person dead, another almost dead, and other stabbed victims, he left a trail of blood, death & chaos? Now it's up to the Legal team to unfold the events of that day & the Jury to decide whether the evidence proves guilt, innocence or a hung jury, it's the Defence's job, no matter whether the defendant is guilty or innocent, they have an obligation to defend their client, to the best of their ability, they are doing a marvellous job, they are both doing a great job.

[@John-zz5gt]

@@basiahellwich3505 He can have an opinion. He's says the prosecutor sucks. So why get emotional. It's his opinion.Go to your cry room.

[@TodaysDiscipIe]

Correct

[@dianamgallagher]

The way the prosecuter says, "right?" after every single question is annoying to listen to.

[@DarkFox2232]

It is called "leading", and should not happen.

[@TheRiverwolford]

It's because he wouldn't immediately answer the question. Because he's guilty as sin.

[@coreypearl5506]

Now it's all I hear lmao

[@mr808steelers]

@@DarkFox2232 That’s what I was hearing

[@HoneyB1329]

@@DarkFox2232 Its cross-examination, leading is allowed during cross

[@Fcreceptor]

Let’s be honest here. This is a case of “when assholes collide”. Throw in alcohol and other intoxicants, and this whole ordeal was just a shit show waiting to happen. I think he was near the kids looking for the phone and they got an attitude with him. They felt like being assholes to some older guy and eventually he thought they were possibly holding the phone to fuck with him. He wasn’t sure if their behavior was locker room behavior or intentional so he kinda messed around by flipping their tubes around. They got up and everyone started surrounding him, taunting him, and bullying him. Of course he could have walked away, but if you watch the video they essentially keep trailing behind him as if he’s trespassing. He appeared to be grabbed by a couple people and ended up hitting that girl. You don’t see her be “hit”. At that point he’s shoved into the water and assaulted. That is when it appears that he starts stabbing anyone who comes up on him. Again, alcohol really played a role in this whole saga and is a clear example of why alcohol is truly one of the worst examples of a drug you can intake in public. Nothing good comes from it. No one is innocent here.

[@staceyritchie7100]

Same thing i said...i think maybe those kids started this whole thing

[@censorme7826]

Totally agree with your observation!

[@a.N.....]

So negligent use of knife led to a death and multiple stabbings? Lol not a reasonable amount of force.

[@shaffti7701]

​@@a.N.....if I'm getting my ass kicked by a mob, I'm grabbing a weapon.

[@andrewadams8601]

Yeah, this is pretty much it. What sucks is if he hadn't dropped his snorkle and goggles, I'll bet he would have moved on pretty quickly. He came into the area because he thought the phone might have been there and maybe the kids had it to mess with him, but he didn't want to leave because he knew his goggles and snorkle were there.

[@suitejodi]

If the comments are any indication of the verdict, this will be a hung jury.

[@ninajasmine2219]

Victim blaming...is disgusting and he lied from beginning

[@JohnMoran]

You are also victim blaming. And the others also lied from the beginning.

[@swisscheeseplease97]

The teens were not victims. They were taunting, malicious, instigating, unhinged lunatics who pushed an older man into the water and punched his face and then tried to hold him down in the water. The kids were instigating the WHOLE time

[@TharaLetzISLANDER]

@@swisscheeseplease97101% created a monster…well good wonderful kids who acted worst than idiots

[@icephoenix1024]

What the teens did was clearly wrong but Mr Miu took it to the next level, not just threatening with knife but actually stabbing teens... He could have just defended with arms or run away... Come on people, we cant justify stabbing people (teens) over mostly words and some mild physical altercations from the teens... Its very unmanly to start violence over words, specially when it comes from teens. Even adults need to learn to control emotions also. Mr Miu should take the guilt and the consequence like a real man and I think he will but remember he lied a lot in the trail, which is a big indicator of what he did was over the top and to aggressive for the situation. That being said, I think we all agree on that the teens need to learn proper behavior, respect and humility. And also, I think Mr Miu should learn communication skills also, if he had respectfully communicated what he was doing in the first place, then maybe the teens would understand the he was looking for that phone and not for underage girls.

[@revekat2053]

Respect is earned. You don’t automatically receive it based on your age.

[@Charmander009]

@@revekat2053 in America yeah they don’t respect elders, but in other countries, we always respect elders that they don’t need to earn it. If I was there, things would’ve gone different. I would’ve just said hey let me help you find your phone sir. I wouldn’t of been like “oh my God get away from me creep”

[@user-eu1rh2nm8j]

​@@revekat2053Why? Why not assume every living being just deserves a basic lvl of respect? Until they proven otherwise?

[@Sincerely_SweetAesthete]

We dont know what this man could have endured as a kid or what have you, i have to investigate his background. Hes had to have been through trauma of some kind.

[@zackkazco2098]

who the fuk does this DA think he is asking why defendant didnt leave after maddie the instigator told him to "leave"? Its not her River or property.

[@nataliecrupi1933]

And she put her hands on him.

[@tomsanger5548]

Its not his river or property to lay hands on their tubes & legs either

[@1998rayray]

​@@tomsanger5548 So it's their right to bother someone who is minding their own business? Lol can't make this stuff up

[@6468May]

He should have left at any time but he chose to engage with everyone

[@SoCalDreaming87]

Nobody acted right here. It is a very sad outcome, but I would be intimidated too by a horde of drunk kids descending on me.

[@echoecho1913]

Manslaughter and aggravated assault seems more likely than 1st degree murder and 4 counts of attempted 1st degree murder. And I feel some of the young men should have been charged with assault & inciting violence. Possibly charges relating to use of alcohol and illegal substances. Both sides could have and should have walked away from any confrontation early on.

[@bobzelley5100]

If the young adults were not illegally drinking - drug use, they may have not had wilded , hastled and attacked the old man . Wilding with youths is a fact and fueled with booze and drugs ...

[@KattEyl]

Yes but only one side sustained multiple knife wounds and death.

[@derekthehalfabee7942]

@@KattEyl The loser of a fight has no bearing on who was at fault in the fight.

[@ruthd7274]

I completely agree. I can't see that this was pure self defence, but I don't see any intent to kill.

[@ChiefsWin316]

How are non of the kids being charged with any crimes? Everyone should be charged, might send a strong message through this country.

[@sirluisray1974]

Ive been jumped by 7 people once. You just react. You do not see faces just shapes and the sounds are unrecognizable. Easy to say should of could of would of. When you're not the one getting smacked around.

[@BabyShark-kd9jl]

I hear you. I've been in a similar situation.

[@mykorner]

Exactlyyyy!!!

[@sleepingthroughthewar]

for real all these people who have never been surrounded and physically assualted (or even just taunted and pushed around if you want to minimize it) they have no idea what its like and they say they would have reacted calmy and just let the berating happen bro people literally have no empathy and im starting to notice its the ones who are always claiming to be the most socially conscientious etc

[@conchhead1]

This man was not ambushed or jumped. This man initiated a confrontation. This man used a concealed knife. This man is refusing to answer the questions. His smile is evil and he claims “I’m not smiling” it is a sneering.

[@BabyShark-kd9jl]

@@conchhead1 He was jumped. He had a knife in his hand and they jumped him.

[@chikensaregood9500]

All of this over a phone that wasn’t even his…..im sure he’s regretting not walking away 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@angiejorah]

All of this was over a video that Jahwan wanted to go viral. He fed the DRUNK AND HIGH mob FOR THE CULTURE.

[@chikensaregood9500]

@@angiejorah yeah but he’s not the one sitting behind bars

[@francesholliday5427]

@@chikensaregood9500 Not literally, no.

[@Ivan.A.Churlyuski]

@@angiejorahthe older man should have walked away from that culture not jump into the middle of it with a knife. As an older man, that’s what I would do, not go to prison for the rest of my short life. But hey, you do you.

[@angiejorah]

@@Ivan.A.Churlyuski If only Madison and the other screaming woman who put their hands on him wouldn't have blocked his path back to his group. He tried walking away. The mob was out to get him no matter what. Mui had no choice and had to defend himself. Enjoy seeing an innocent man go to prison for the rest of his life for self-defense against 12 drunk and high screaming and laughing people. I wonder how long and how many of them would have kept punching him while he was down had he not defended himself. 2 women and 4 or 5 of the men put their hands on him before he stabbed anyone. Fact.

[@arkeam9292]

His conversation with Cops is super damning. Throwing away the knife is super damning.

[@The_ScapeGoat]

Not really. Neither of those things proves he wasn't defending himself

[@arkeam9292]

It proves he's a liar, and that He didn't feel legally justified to do what He did.

[@kountryedge]

​@arkeam9292 No, unless you go through something like that, you won't know the feelings and adrenaline one is going through. Even innocent people have admitted and sent to prison. You have NO IDEA what he was thinking or feeling.

[@mystery_to_history]

@@The_ScapeGoat he cleaned the blood off the knife and dumped it... then he put on glasses and a had and returned to his group and acted like nothing happened

[@arkeam9292]

When You're forced to use deadly force in self defense, U don't leave. U surrender to cops yourself and any weapon you may of had to use. U don't have to tell Ur story to the cops necessarily.... but U definitely don't lie. U have a right to remain silent.

[@ConsciousConversations]

How weird that Americans so often feel sympathy for the accused. I know there is little faith in our legal system here but it does not mean a grown, armed man with loud mouth drunk teens, as he identified them immediately afterwards, has the right to claim self defense. He expertly used a weapon against a group of drunk teens and gutted one and slaughtered another. He stabbed two others and then washed up and lied about what happened for days afterwards.

[@duststorm2699]

Linebackers,college ball. Tall kids.

[@NunyaBizness2.0]

If this were your husband, father or grandfather you’d see it very differently, I’m sure

[@tomsanger5548]

You could ask the people you are mentioning about unarmed black people being shot & killed by police. This question was presented to college students as to how many this happened to in I believe 2019 & they would say hundreds or 1,000. The actual number was 19 & the vast majority were fighting with the cop trying to get his weapon or taser. Out of the millions of police interactions there were less than a handful where the cops were at fault but the narrative pushed by the media & activists is that cops are blood thirty & go looking to execute innocent blacks. Ask people about Kyle Rittenhouse & a lot of them will say he was a white supremacist who crossed state lines in order to murder innocent black protesters. A frightening percentage of Americans believe these insane narratives & now we have this case where people bend the facts to support their equally insane narrative.

[@shanesooth6267]

Speak for yourself.

[@1greatNorthwestmom]

As an American, I do not have any sympathy for Miu the accused. This was not self defense it was murder.

[@loriknight6993]

They try to analyze this frame by frame as if every millisecond could be stopped and thought out as it happened. It just doesnt work that way.

[@skeletalsounds_]

That’s literally the prosecution’s only hard evidence. They gotta make every frame count if they wanna get this man charged with 1st degree murder. Grasping for straws for sure

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Exactly.

[@Jennmorris03]

Yeah because in a murder trial, you don’t want to slow the video down to show when he pulled his knife out and when he murdered someone. It just doesn’t happen that way. You have to play the video at full speed. That’s the most unintelligent ignorant remark I’ve seen yet.

[@twinkletoes6290]

That’s what they’ve done for every witness. The defense attorneys did the same exact thing.

[@Jennmorris03]

It COULD have been stopped. To not analyze every move would be stupid. He could have walked away. HE initiated the entire thing.

[@crabbyphucker1696]

He's getting caught in too many lies guilty I change my mind

[@bhowish]

He contradicted himself like 60 times between defense and prosecutor

[@sigmar40k]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with how many people are now defending a guy who disemboweled a seventeen year old, stabbed a tiny teenage girl, and murdered another kid. What the fuck is happening to peoples' brains? How is everyone turning into an absolute soulless sociopath?

[@OtDawn]

I commiserate with you, they protest for Hamas. Thousands in the streets protesting for the mad beasts of Oct 7th I can't understand it.

[@millie663]

Right? I'm so confused. Like it's FIVE people he stabbed. How can that be defendable by so many people. I could see it differently if it was one person and he retreated. But he attacked all of them violently with deadly force. Yes he was threatened and everyone was in the wrong but that doesn't absolve him of this act of insanity. People defending him and completely villainizing the teens/young adults have some messed up logic.

[@daniellebutler6533]

Well Said!! This is so insane!!

[@HONGRYGORL]

@@OtDawn What?

[@JamesStreet-tp1vb]

​@@millie663"He attacked all of them." So, they were just lying around, lounging on the sand and he walked up and attacked them? Is that what you're implying?

[@LeniDell]

Shall I point out this guy didn’t just STAB. He did maximum damage on PURPOSE. He KNOWS how to fight. He twisted and dragged the knife in them. I’d bet money this guy is a trained ex military or private militia from Eastern Europe/Ukraine/Russia…. and let’s not forget there’s been on and off fighting and now war. This guy is playing dumb. He knew exactly what he was doing. Nobody was gonna insult HIM. He’s guilty of murder and attempted murder. He deserves life, no parole. At the least. He’s a liar.

[@sarahjane9692]

As I'm around 40 minutes into watching this video i think it was a bad decision to let him take the stand. Any good lawyer would've told him not to take the stand, unless he insisted on taking the stand.

[@gsustime]

He only says I don't remember and he still got exposed for lying

[@catherinewinkeler8587]

Defendant's should never take the stand. Your attorney will tell u that. Some just insist on telling their story.

[@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211]

As potential future jurors, our job is to look beyond BS, including bad performances by defendants whose lives are at stake, and understand the facts of the case, and make a solid decision. For instance, the prosecutor focused on his “anger scale” because the ONLY hope they have to winning is that he was “angry” and started stabbing people. For us, we know that given the mob he was surrounded by, he needed to defend himself after they repeatedly attacked him, especially after calling him names, and that being angry doesn’t wave his right to self defense. What, should he be happy while defending himself? Should be scared? Yes, he should be scared, but you can be angry and scared at the same time.

[@eeeeeeeeee10]

@@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211you can be angry and scared at the same time, or do you mean can’t?

[@oyetequilla5728]

I Agree. His attorney should not have allowed him to testify. They are masters of taking a testimony, twisting a story/scenario and saying, right? Right?

[@user-ew7jv2sz9w]

The attorney is so annoying. Only says right and correct 5000 times.

[@jayc4743]

Right?

[@sandihulbert5902]

To me, it’s leading 🤷🏻‍♀️😑

[@briansmith5293]

​@@jayc4743👍🤣

[@JG0en187]

@@sandihulbert5902 🤦🏾‍♂️you can lead on cross… so yes the prosecution is asking leading questions at times.

[@tammi3121]

The defense is 2... agreed?

[@jdemartini9807]

Listening to this cross examination, and the other testimony, I’m a little confused as to why he was found guilty of reckless homicide…seems like it should have been intentional homicide.

[@absolutebackhand7294]

What a blunder by the defense to put this man on the witness stand

[@AJ-sb8qk]

In all honesty, they probably didn't have a choice in his arrogance, he probably insisted against there council

[@palace927]

Surprisingly, it worked for Kyle Rittenhouse.

[@geralddonnely9844]

@@palace927 That was a true case of self defense, and he didn't try to hide from the facts of what happened, in fact, he immediately tried to turn himself in.

[@absolutebackhand7294]

@@palace927 he was being shot at by career criminals, not mocked by teenagers

[@JG0en187]

They had to after the interrogation video was made available. This is the same attorney that got Kyle Rittenhouse off he’s doing the best he can with what he’s got.

[@justice-jb5ld]

Even as this bully testifies, we can see he has a real bad temper.

[@IsaProudParent]

This guy made the ultimate mistake of taking the stand and waiving his right to remain silent

[@meholder7570]

I think it will help him. He's not scared to tell the truth, and he's well spoken, compared to the kids.

[@briannavacca5083]

@@meholder7570he cannot get his story straight at all

[@carolwilliams894]

@@meholder7570the truth doesn’t look good for him.

[@kamivenus753]

​ @meholder7570 lol yall see what yall want to seem the video shows this guy being aggressive first lol

[@ChiefsWin316]

​@@briannavacca5083ya all the kids lieing he def shouldnt have taken the stand, but you basically have to if your going for self defense.

[@wildwest1832]

Its amazing how much he cant remember. He ignores 3 or 4 kids bleeding out and dying and floats back down the river lol. Just another day

[@carolinegammage4598]

This man child became angry and he used his knife to hurt and kill and calmly walks away like nothing happened. Stop blaming the victims that came to get this pos to leave teens alone. This man simply could have left everybody and go back to his group. Guilty!

[@justsayin3600]

​@@DJ-769Don't forget this man was punched in the face and head.

[@yehheapsmadaybut]

​@@justsayin3600lol didn't even have a mark, welt or bruise. He was slapped not punched

[@KeepItSimpleSailor]

“Teens”? 😂

[@Perdu...]

​@DJ-769 you forget to watch the part where he storms up to the teens and fucking grabs their legs?

[@le34585]

His lawyers should've never let him on the witness stand

[@BabyShark-kd9jl]

It was his decision.

[@WindTurbineSyndrome]

I agree. The prosecution was drooling at the prospect.

[@jplxlabelle1681]

He knows that now. Like everyone who's ever made this mistake. I've made this mistake twice, though both times it was the only way to introduce evidence they were trying to block. Twice. Both times sucked and didn't go the way I thought it would. You only think you can. Even a second rate prosecutor can talk circles around an average person. Because the average person isn't all that intelligent.

[@Janet2508]

If the lawyers advised the defendant not to take the stand why did he do so because he's not looking good. He either has a very bad memory or was seriously drunk.

[@unyieldingrage1389]

Why? Can’t handle your “usual suspect” looking bad on stand?

[@krisr3493]

Wow he should not have testified!! I was on his side before but now I don’t know. He has no regret or sympathy of the young boy dying… wow

[@lashannon3668]

Thank you for that observation! He doesn't seem remorseful at all!

[@jessie-111]

You dont know if he has any regret.. when your getting charged with murder all you have time for is fighting for your life on trial. It takes everything out of you.. he may have regret and guilt he may just not be showing it bc it will make him look even more guilty and he is putting all his energy in this trial.. He won't ever get to fully process it until trial is over imo.

[@lashannon3668]

@@jessie-111 right, as you don't know if he's a cold psychopath, who feels nothing either, right? It's all speculation.

[@JessLBreen]

@@jessie-111right I’m sure Ted bundy had remorse as well

[@tedlambert12]

Why would you have regret or sympathy?

[@brooksblogs5403]

Goggles in his accent probably sounded like "girls" to the drunk and high boys.

[@jeffp862]

That’s a good point it’s possible !

[@mgmarrow]

He could have said anything and those bullies would have picked on him anyway. There's no excuse for that menacing gang to attack him.

[@brooksblogs5403]

@@mgmarrow agreed...I think the judge messed it up by gatekeeping the video and not freely giving it to the jury. Hoping for a mistrial on those grounds. We can defend ourselves from any and all physical threats.

[@BlGGESTBROTHER]

@@mgmarrow What videos are you guys watching? Because from what I've seen it's clearly Miu who starts the altercation and is the first to get physical.

[@glassjester]

@@mgmarrow They were looking for a fight, and they got one. And lost.

[@josephrainbolt3849]

He lost my support around 1:14:00 when he straight lied to the cop in cuffs in the squad car saying he didn't see anyone injured and he saw the fight and wasn't involved. He won't be able to recover from and defend that this alone could be the reason he's convicted. You can't stab multiple people and lie about it when it's on video to a cop. Bad move lying.

[@sarazink2237]

How can the body cam be used as evidence when at that point he is only being detained? I’m not saying it’s no big deal that he lied but how can it be used in court ?

[@plohg]

@@sarazink2237they dont have to read miranda immediately

[@stevelarios317]

He’s in shock and scared he may have done something wrong. He’s probably reacting without even thinking. It doesn’t change the altercation in the river. He was attacked and he defended himself. Was it justified? His peers will decide.

[@randal_gibbons]

Misleading the police after the incident carries little weight, otherwise they would have made it a separate charge. He's on trial for what the state charged him with.

[@justingale3463]

Literally none of that matters when there is a video showing what happened. He was scared no one would believe him and didn’t know there was a video recording to back him up.

[@tarajohnson679]

How convenient he doesn’t remember any of the lies he told but anything that helps his case he can recall. That’s not suspect at all. Lies are hard to keep track of but the truth is always easy to remember.

[@atchmon902]

I've seen the full video. It's out there on shock sites. The guy on trial looked out of his mind. But its obvious the recording was started and happening after some other altercation had already occurred. The guy was about to leave or quit, until the second group showed up and attacked him.

[@celticwarrior777]

Aw really. Where can the full video be found then exactly?

[@dropdeadDeb]

That's not 100% correct.

[@paulmurphy7106]

​@@celticwarrior777Try "Kaotic" or "The YNC". But a word of caution. There's some very, very bad stuff on both of these sites. Everything that happened to these kids is like watching an episode of Sesame Street compared to some of the horrific things I've seen on both of these sites. So heads up!

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Shock sites? It’s on youtube lol!

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@celticwarrior777​​⁠​⁠ It’s on this same channel, man. “GRAPHIC CONTENT: Apple River Stabbing Released”

[@laffing247]

He keeps forgetting that his narrative is that he was terrified. He repeatedly describes his feelings during the incident as “annoyed and frustrated” Showing his true colors- an idiot liar and a senseless murderer.

[@marklittler784]

Suppose being fisted three times affects your thinking.

[@sallychasen1793]

Horrible individual...He went to their tubes to instigate a situation where he could eventually stab them, because he was angry at them for drinking...He also thinks he is very savy at the first part of the prosecution, he gets slowly taken down to the liar he is. He wanted a situation, he caused one , so he could come out of it with a self defense plea. Unfortunately for him , someone filmed him killing people

[@marklittler784]

@@sallychasen1793 Their initial treatment of him in response to his foreign accent is an absolute abomination.

[@sallychasen1793]

@@marklittler784 he's a pathological liar. His accent should be long gone, his twin brother doesn't act like that. He's 54, and came here as a young teen, he needs to drop the charade. He's playing stupid and fragile and he's anything but. Remember he has nearly 2 Masters Degrees, all the "stupid" is acts of manipulation . Remember, he went to college for a very long time, and has been in the USA the biggest majority of his life. Watch him during the prosecution, before they ask him what his injuries were, he starts with tongue/cheek movement, so he'll be ready for the question. Then, when asked about the width of the river, he catches himself again, because he let it out that his group was 100ft (then he catches himself) from the boys. Miu deliberately went to get a confrontation going, he just wasn't socially savvy enough to realize everyone has cameras these days. Miu thinks his stupidity of saying "I don't remember that conversation " will just get him right out of trouble. He got 20 years, should have gotten 80, but he lost the trial, his job, his income, his house, his wife, and his dog...plus all the respect of his friends and peers. He'll never be employed again, and I hope his stay in prison is super miserable for him.

[@kaylynhill4337]

At first i thought he was in the wrong, butno I fully believe that both sides were wrong and he maybe felt threatened by all these young men and the outcome was tragic...This is what happens when you to act big and bad to look cool for your friends..sad outcome either way

[@cheshirecat6518]

Regardless of who started it, he went for the kill. He didn't show them his knife, announce he had one, or command them to get back. He used lethal kill shots against unarmed young people, even young women, and didn't even try to leave when he had his entire back in the clear. For that he is guilty according to state law.

[@Sweetpea064]

He ran up and tried to flip the boys off of their intertubes. He was the aggressor from the start.

[@TheSkunxMcgee]

What about the young woman he stabbed? She wasn’t with the group of young men!

[@connielikens3415]

You are so right!!

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

The young adults were firmly in the wrong, period. Incited a mob, and then acted as a mob. This man is innocent.

[@jasenbach2793]

He takes out a kife cause a teenage girl pushed him ? Wow.

[@tinasilvercat6923]

He took out a knife because there was an angry mob around him.

[@KellyMorris-x6k]

He heard what they was calling him he knew what was going to happen he had to defend himself

[@palace927]

She is 22 years old.

[@rachaelcrisler6084]

She shouldn’t have touched him. She wasn’t a teenager. Women are not victims. We are equal. That means equal consequences.

[@tomsanger5548]

No she took hold of his arm to get his attention & he didn't seem to have any problem with that since he said his fear level was 1 out of 10. He then turned looked at her defiantly said he stood his ground, pulled the knife & then admitted to pushing her. This opens it up to all the witnesses saying he punched her which may be true or not but does open it up that he was the one to first begin an actual physical assault.

[@luciennetaylor4608]

You can see why kids were weirded out ,when he thought they had cell phone he bull rushed them them, pulled on their tubes basicially not bothering him til he messed with them

[@kristee2947]

He is Guilty!!

[@PhysifistEngineering]

​@@kristee2947nope. Self defense.

[@Cynt12345]

@@PhysifistEngineeringso You would have handled this situation exactly as he did??

[@mashmashk22]

​@PhysifistEngineering it's not self defense when he had opportunity to leave and no one else had a weapon or intention to seriously injure him

[@PhysifistEngineering]

@@Cynt12345 I'm a United States Marine. I've been trained to defend myself from perceived or real physical threats. I have that legal right. You can be a victim all you want. You have the pleasure of casually observing this situation from the comfort of your home. I'd love to see your reaction if in the water and surrounded by 13 angry intoxicated young people that were pushing you into the water, hitting you while accusing you of being a pedo.

[@mfranck1]

That confession in the car where he says he thought a fight happened but wasn’t involved… mind blowing. 🤯

[@ImaJWalker]

Veterans call this " Tunnel Vision" .... Mind Processing things under - pressure.

[@mfranck1]

@@ImaJWalker this isn’t tunnel vision. This is outright LYING. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@batmanwins5701]

Yeah dude thought he'd get away with stabbing a bunch of people on camera. Total psycho.

[@PRODRXSKI]

Yet thats not what happened ffs​@@batmanwins5701

[@cindyk6411]

He knows he's left many living witnesses with his by now signature stab wounds on thier young bodies that are on their way to the hospital to be surgically repaired and will never be able to forget his face .😮This slew of lies removes all credibility . His own group indeed knew he was over with the teens as well. They warned him not to go over there a couple of times. His wife obviously knows he doesn't handle the booze and can become aggressive she wanted him to stay away and knew he'd be of no assistance, finding anything but trouble. The fact that he drank lots was the only truth he told. "I think we all were drinking alot"

[@RobespierreChelsea]

The defence lawyer must have been scratching his head when Miu responded that his fear level was 1 out of 10, and then crept up to 3 out of 10 just before pulling out a knife.

[@melb2258]

He’s been confused since the day this all happend😅 he’s got the scale all wrong, in his head less is more, higher is less 😅

[@ChiefsWin316]

He didnt say his fear level was 1 outta ten, use your ears next time, he said his anger level was a 1 outta 10.

[@humanbean3]

@@ChiefsWin316 not true. he said this earlier when the defense was questioning him.

[@bobcat1933]

He flipped the scale and screwed his client. This is what happens when you over coach your client and the client isn’t given the go ahead to just tell it in your own words. He’s over thinking and giving short answers. Just talk and let it out. Unless you are being careful but at this point you should just be speaking in a raw form about what you did and what you saw and what you felt. He can give king answers but he’s trying to be calculated and that comes across as deception

[@mg5393]

@@ChiefsWin316 Settle petal

[@jeanniestegner9915]

He looks annoyed and overwhelmed testifying more than he does during the video IMO

[@maddii34u]

This 💯

[@dtrez3866]

In the video, he is drunk as a skunk. He told the cops that he had "been drinking all day".

[@angiejorah]

@@dtrez3866 Miu was drinking beer. The mob was drinking beer, vodka, and smoking weed.

[@Rachel_Ryder]

I was on his side til now. What a pompous liar. He just buried himself.

[@7zforce]

Hard to believe anybody could ever be on his side. The video screams this dude is a nut.

[@Rachel_Ryder]

@@7zforceI had only heard a synopsis of the case and viewed a portion of the video, and I was focusing on the fact that he may have been afraid for his life… after hearing the lies to the police and his demeanor on the stand, I stand corrected. Guilty as sin.

[@REPR100]

Just because you lie to the police like almost all of the witnesses have done, it doesn’t change the fact he was still acting in self defense when he was attacked

[@Rachel_Ryder]

@@REPR100 certainly you’re entitled to your opinion, but it doesn’t sway mine. Other people’s lies don’t excuse mine, yours, or his, and more importantly the lies indicate guilt, in my opinion.

[@mightymommom5888]

Poor decision to put this guy on the stand.

[@Musicgranny]

The look on his face when asked why he didn’t back off and he replies “I was standing my ground” shows his mindset

[@tomsanger5548]

Which by the way is NOT Wisconsin law. He then admitted he pushed Maddie which was the first act of assault.

[@rawfoodphilosophy7061]

@@tomsanger5548 its now called the maddi push

[@robertduncan8400]

@@tomsanger5548not the first act. The first act was the females putting their hands on him. And when the one female continuously pulled his arm. It may not be severe but still, you can not touch people you don’t know without permission.

[@dalton1328]

@@tomsanger5548no the first act of assault was when he “tripped” onto there tubes grabbing the teens legs.

[@BillyBriskets]

@@tomsanger5548 Wisconsin Statute 939.48 is a thing though. You're allowed to defend yourself from physical harm by using force in Wisconsin.

[@sunbeatpillow3749]

Just to let everyone know, Wisconsin isn’t a stand your ground state. So, this case was muddy from the start.

[@MrShanester117]

That’s 100% wrong. And in fact the entire United States has stand your ground laws that have been in place for 200 years

[@boomnews815]

And there is no duty to retreat. Muddy indeed.

[@Nohomiskis]

@@boomnews815there is reasonable action to retreat when the facts are presented. It’s not just ‘you don’t gotta retreat, and standing your ground is not law’. That’s dumb. They’ve defined reasonable self defense requirements. The main debate is the level of deliberate culpability on the suspect, which that burden of proof has been lowered with the addition of lesser charges. 1st and 2nd degree negligent homicide (attempted as well) and disregard for human life is within the jury rules.

[@JP-ec9rl]

It's not stand your ground but there's also no duty to retreat. This prosecutor might have been able to prove aggravated manslaughter but he's drowning under murder one. He's never going to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defense because what leads up to the point where they shark attack this guy is irrelevant to whether or not he was justified in defending himself. This defense lawyer is smart enough to convince the jury of that and this prosecutor is an idiot.

[@slimshadetree9468]

Cool, so why didn't those kids walk away since they were so "scared"

[@nancy95988]

We all have to remember all of this unraveled in about what 4min… beginning to end…

[@williamphillips2239]

EXACTLY! Those numskulls saying he should't have walked away so he's guilty are pathetic!

[@alanboody7004]

Think about it. The guy managed to gut another full grown adult, nearly gutted a female who was in the hospital for a month, stabbed two other people, and managed to kill Isaac. Nobody knew he had a knife and there's no confirmed serious injuries and the only thing he complained about was his butt hurting. Later, he claimed his throat did but never said that anyone until today.

[@theworldisavampire3346]

Omg EXACTLY. Having any of them try to explain why they did whatever is crazy because it happened so fast.

[@faithevolution552]

Jesus taught us to turn the other cheek...wow, now I understand why it's such an important thing for us to do... turn the other cheek when you are surrounded by a mob of people acting like this.

[@JG0en187]

@@williamphillips2239are you saying he couldn’t evaluate the situation, see he was out numbered and make moves to evac? That goes against logic he was being pulled away refused the out and chose to stand up to people he himself refers to kids. Everyone there that day was drunk and lacked common faculties. I don’t feel bad for him if he’s convicted. If he isn’t that’s fine too. At the end of the day his choice may have not cost him his life but he’s ruined what’s left of it.

[@nee_suhh]

I can tell most people havent watched this to the end when they present how he lied to the cops about not knowing what happened. That he "heard there was a fight" and that people "may have been stabbed". If this was purely self defense it doesnt make sense why he would lie continuously to the police AND the jury about any of it. He went to that group knowing he had the knife in his pocket and knowing he was going to use it. Before you say those kids were "asking for it" i implore you to watch him and listen to his answers. He's on video! "Oh i dont remember, if you say thats what happened on the video then it happened." Frail old man excuse, we've seen this with Joseph DeAngelo. It's bull and the jury knows it.

[@JoshuaNance-m8h]

Anyone that thinks this guy is innocent should be ashamed of themselves... If this was swlf defense he woyldnt lie about EVERYTHING

[@leelunk8235]

TRU

[@susancuello4073]

and people are Okey with this highschool boys drinking drinking alcohol at a public place. Laughing at, calling a man derogatory names I suppose is OK as well

[@Jimmy009-st8mm]

Old guy 5 , bullies 0

[@my3kidzada]

He thought them kids grabbed the phone and we're hiding it. That's why he targeted them.

[@mashmashk22]

Yes and they thought he was a creep but he turned out to be a psycho

[@frannyyyt]

Exactly he saw they had a phone in one of their necklaces and he lunged at them thinking it was his friends phone plus them making fun of him definitely hurt his ego so he was mad

[@imfawn66]

He didn't lunge to get his goggles before the went under one of the tubes

[@reelnative01]

They did

[@chuck7879]

Cap

[@LorJuT]

I mean it’s hard to believe he brought a knife intending to kill people

[@ToothFairy86]

Absolutely true. 1st degree murder is insane

[@12345fowler]

@@ToothFairy86 You have reading issues. He wasn't charged with murder.

[@beararms6945]

Why is this man being charged with murder for defending himself against an angry mob of people, holding him down in the water ?? And why aren't these kids not in trouble for perjury?? They clearly are lying. They had no reason to hold him down in the water , and who the hell helps to meditate by pushing the 50 year old in the back after they held him in the water by his throat? This man is innocent plain and simple this is self defense period. He doesn't belong on trial he belongs sitting at home relaxing. Those idiot's didnt want to get hurt or stabbed or dead maybe they shouldn't have did what they did .

[@dwizzle2132]

After he was detained he literally said he saw people yelling and fighting but didnt see anyone injured and doesnt know whats going on even though he just stabbed 5 people and kill 1? thats what innocent people say right?

[@somsomerson1576]

Yes its what this innocent person said

[@dwizzle2132]

@@somsomerson1576 if your innocent you dont lie

[@hakeaooda1549]

@@dwizzle2132 He knows he fucked up, but thats what a person who knows he might face a long time in jail might say, not necesserally guilty. The action happened, he stabbed people... being judged as self defense is really difficult... that guy making fun of him filming was his best chance of getting a fair trail and they didn't know it, neither did him. How people can't put themselves in others peoples shoes always surprises me... like a lack of perspective.

[@deltron3030z]

@@dwizzle2132If you’re in a state of shock you don’t even realize what just happened, amateur-

[@lizabethharrelson]

I bet you’d have a different opinion if it was your child or your kin that got stabbed on the river that day I’m sure

[@joycepayne3505]

He is guilty even if the teenagers were teasing him. He couldn’t control his anger, how can you stab 5 kids and just walk away? Throw knife away, clean hands in river, go about his day as if nothing happened!!! What !!!!

[@mortalclown3812]

💯

[@CarmenMartinez-cv5yi]

I agree 💯

[@daniellebutler6533]

Exactly!!

[@JamesStreet-tp1vb]

So attacking someone is now called "teasing?" Putting your hands around someone's neck is called teasing?

[@mostlypeacefulredhead2793]

Maddie’s behavior was despicable. I hope she realizes that she caused that entire situation.

[@ToothFairy86]

Who is Maddie?!? I need to look at more videos

[@japphan]

She was part in causing a nuisance, and a nuisance it would have stayed, if not for other people. Many were in the wrong. One killed someone. Let me guess, you have been annoying to someone, at some point in your life. I sure have. Luckily this guy wasn't there to start stabbing people.

[@Pr13to]

You are totally right. If the justice system were fair, she should have been the one in jail. I’m sorry for this man; he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got surrounded by a bunch of punks and a Karen. The fact that everything started with them calling him a creep is enough to know that these were a bunch of social media-influenced idiots.

[@joleenspelbrink3265]

She did!

[@nmsoccer222]

The black dude filming started the whole situation

[@erikaxchristine]

They charged him with first degree? They won’t win this one.

[@francesca6301]

They just added lesser charges at the end of his testimony. The judge allowed it. Talk about putting your finger on the scale of justice. If he's found not guilty via self defense, he'll be automatically not guilty on the lesser charges though.

[@apriladams6098]

They are talking lesser charges

[@NotWokebutAwake.]

I agree it should have been at least a lower degree murder charge. I'm afraid he will walk bc of the 1st degree charges alone

[@apriladams6098]

@@francesca6301 I personally think Old Nic is going to jail

[@francesca6301]

@@apriladams6098 and I personally think he has a good chance of being found not guilty.

[@cz1135]

Had he used the knife as a form of self defense, and by not stabbing a woman who was no real threat to him. What troubles me the most is he stabbed multiple people in a very specific way and not as a defense mechanism. He had physically gutted two people which is very specific and aggressive behavior. Yes the teens behaved horribly but in no way did that justify gutting two young men and also stabbing a woman. He took things to a level that should never have been taken.

[@roscoehall9970]

He sounds like a big kid himself "o they was bullying me"really you let 17-20 year old kids bully you

[@celticwarrior777]

He comes from a very different country amd culture. In Europe you will be in a fight running your mouth like that like those young men. He defended his life

[@Bink316]

Agree

[@Delilah101]

He won’t even admit to that being him in the video . Wow. Too much lies. At least be a little remorseful. You hurt people badly. Took a life. Like damn. He deserves some time for sure. I get they were talking shit but you ran up. You wanted to fight. “Kids being kids” as he clutched his hands together. GUILTY.

[@bikiniburger4376]

Oh wow, he should never have taken the stand. What a mistake.

[@kudjo24]

Why do people keep saying this lol, it shows the jury he's not a redneck killer like zoomers portray him to be, he's a feeble ethnic migrant of an old man who was defending himself

[@absolutelyfookinnobody2843]

Not really, got a murder put in jail for the rest of his life. I'm pretty sure he didn't have much of a choice in the matter

[@dklapec]

It's one side...listen to the defense examination.

[@madisynbrinsky9682]

@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 you always have a choice to not testify against yourself lol

[@madisynbrinsky9682]

@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 its a right

[@elenchusexperience1493]

There are a lot of confused people in the comments section. This guy is guilty as sin. Some defense is warranted, but not to the level of fatally stabbing people. Give me a break. I will be shocked if he walks from this.

[@jamieostrowski4447]

They tried to drown him.

[@elenchusexperience1493]

@@jamieostrowski4447 lol that’s cute if you actually saw that happening in the video. You would be doing better than his defense attorney.

[@TruthHurts2u]

That was not a stumble. The guy is a liar. He lied to the police about everything that happened from the moment the police made contact with him that day.

[@wvrjl]

His memory is incredibly selective. Goes away when it's inconvenient, comes back when it IS convenient, and FILLED with false memories aka LIES. Also, he NEVER mentioned being strangled because his LAWYERS came up with that lie. The 3-part picture of the victim "strangling" him, was literally at the time he was murdering the kid.

[@angiejorah]

At the time the "kid" put his hands on his throat he had the right to defend himself.

[@wvrjl]

@angiejorah - Didn't you wonder why the 17 year old's body & Miu's hands were blocked off in that 3-part picture that SUPPOSEDLY proved he was being strangled by the 17-year old??? It was because Miu was stabbing him to death AT THAT MOMENT!!! You can tell because you see that Riley in the background has already been stabbed. That's why her mouth is open like she's screaming and she's looking down at her side. What would YOU do?? Just stand there? Miu had ALREADY punched Maddie, stabbed Riley, and one other person. This poor kid just tried to push this psycho away and got killed for his actions. In fact, NO ONE had assaulted Miu in ANY way before he started attacking everyone! Miu also took his knife out LONG before he began the attack, just hoping someone would provide a justification for him to start stabbing. When they didn't, he punched Maddie, and started stabbing everyone. He did not know there would be video. You have to watch the whole video. In addition, at least 3 out the 5 or 6 people he attacked, didn't touch him aggressively in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER (before or after his attack), including the first 2 people he attacked. So NOTHING was self-defense for Miu. But for anyone who did punch or push Miu, that was obviously self-defense because he was stabbing everyone. And since Miu was the first person to physically attack anyone, it's actually the victims that are defending themselves, as much as they can by pushing him away or punching him. His defense team did a great job muddying the waters by cherry picking moments in the video where Miu was either "assaulted" or the "victim" an apparent assault. They didn't SAY the instances were BEFORE Miu started attacking everyone, they just let you assume it. The problem was, people only started pushing / punching Miu when Miu began stabbing everybody. Miu came over to them, refused to leave, initiated the violence, then took it up 100 knots. Then he casually left like he could have at any other time.

[@angiejorah]

@@wvrjl If you watch the video at .25 you don't see Rylee stabbed until after Mui got up from being pushed into the water, slapped, and punched. Rylee and Madison had their hands all over Mui. He didn't punch Madison. Madison lied and said she had pics of her face. The police are able to recover deleted pictures. The picture never happened. The drunk and high mob say that to justify attacking him in the 1st place. All of the people who got stabbed punched, slapped, had their hands on him, prevented him from leaving and tried to push him under the water. 100% Self-Defense against a drunk and high mob.

[@MichaelWilkinson-qf9ej]

This guy lashed out with the knife out of anger. He had plenty of opportunity to walk around them and go back to his friends.

[@paul9745pdb]

I’m so fallible. I watched the defense earlier and said he was being unjustifiably convicted. Now I watch this, and my opinion has changed. Don’t believe anything before you have the full story. Lesson learned for me.

[@motogem1408]

I completely agree! I was thinking "those teen boys are the aggressors". Now that I've heard almost all the testimonials, I'd say he GUILTY!

[@dtrez3866]

Respect due to you Paul. Some people will never see or know.

[@Tanishamarie6820]

Exactly

[@alxinldn11]

Humility has to be one of the best human traits - it's so refreshing to see such a self-aware person out here. Could not agree with you more Paul, this is a good reminder how fickle our perspectives can be

[@angiejorah]

I watched the whole trial. It is very sad day for justice since a man who defended himself against a drunken mob is going to prison for the rest of his life. He should be home with his family.

[@jaredthisdelle5617]

He should not be charged with attempted murder are you freaking kidding me i carry a blade and if i get jumped by 5 juvenile jerks and i fear fir my life guess what its coming out . Its called self defense

[@dalton1328]

jumped? your an idiot. the guy literally just said he “fell” on there tube. when he did he grabbed there legs. boom assault. he also punched the girl first. he admitted it. then proceeds to try to hide the murder weapon, leave the scene and not talk to cops. then he lies and says he went over to the yelling to see what was going on. he’s guilty. point blank period. old man couldn’t handle a little name calling and got pissed off and reacted. now he’s suffering. huffing and puffing up on the stage like a wimp. he assaulted the teens first and the girl.

[@dalton1328]

and you can’t assault somebody just because they verbally harass you and call you names. its AGAINST THE LAW.

[@brentbeardsley655]

​@@dalton1328you also can't knock someone down, punch them and have 13 people surrounding them in a menacing situation. We know how it turned out. He didn't. He didn't know what their intentions were. He knew if he fell in the river again they would be on him. He panicked because he was outnumbered and surrounded. Unless you believe this man chose to mess with 13 people for no reason.

[@taramay8174]

He charged the teens and was drunk and they asked him to leave them alone de4

[@A-privilege-not.a-right]

@@dalton1328. Did you not see the parts where they pushed him into the water on the video? How long would you wait until a gang of aholes kept putting their hands on you accusing you of being a predator? You just gonna wait and wish them love like a holy person?

[@spookydeborah1992]

I feel for everyone in this situation. As someone who has been jumped by three men at work, unprovoked (I work in an industry that leaves the customer on high alert), I can assure you that it is beyond terrifying. You are not aware of what your assailants are capable of, when they will stop assaulting you, or how the situation will end. I did not have a weapon on me and anytime I stood back up to get help, I was then pushed down again and punched and kicked, so I was in no position to defend myself - but with fear, adrenaline and pain coursing through your body, I can absolutely attest to how disoriented you get and how all train of typical thinking flees your mind. I was unable to think of how to protect myself properly, such as covering my head or vital organs, to give credit to the fact that you don't quite have all your faculties. Add 10 other people who are screaming and laughing at you, plus alcohol, and you get this case. He will have to pay for his actions that day, especially since multiple people became intentional targets, but everyone involved in pushing this man down and harming him should be held accountable for their assaults and aiding the situation to occur in the first place.

[@theimmoralcookie6344]

Exactly. The kids should also be penalized for harassing the man and putting themselves in danger.

[@Hdio99]

exactly has I see it, the 2 sides here were horrible, the group could not hold a better posture they responded like animals, and with this east type of people "nicolae" they are there for the kill when things are personal, that is more or less the culture take justice by their hands witch is criminal thinking and behavior and can be shown here, just the mindset of going to face a group like to give them a lesson with a hiden knife u can see the mindset...luckly I live in Europe and this concept of an individual carrying knives or guns is not present, but hey in Europe there are a lot of criminal to, so the gun does not make u a criminal, but it surelly helps to then finalize the mindset...and the group they are already almost adults at that time education has already had to be ingreaned , because when its not groups act like hienas...pure animal kindom madness witch was what was displayed here, its a pity this like Einstein one said, when u have a military kind of mind and atack is all u see, surely you have been given a brain by mistake...

[@zigsharko3602]

Except it was open space. He could've left the where the boys were. He walked up to them. Sad situation all around.

[@douglaschitwood1342]

I have been jumped before 2 times now. SemperFi America

[@markr.devereux3385]

That fact makes him the aggressor. These kids were right this old man is mental and dangerous and was a threat. Once he stabbed that young lady anybody had the right to restrain him. He left without a single mark. The law is clear and it corresponds to moral compass. You should never stab four human beings for yelling at you in a public park.

[@horrido666]

Crazy to put this guy on the stand. He buried himself, and any chance he had.

[@networth00]

Nah, I think he's not guilty of redrum. He did lie to police and was horrible on the stand. The video says it all tho.

[@unyieldingrage1389]

Eh he’s white, probably get community service

[@shirleyavarell2674]

Why is he on the stand if he can’t remember anything.

[@413X-o4w]

Literally all the kids had conflicting stories.

[@justice-jb5ld]

So the jurors would feel sorry for this bully.

[@Moon_Presence]

You do realize, traumatic events can cause memory loss right? It goes to show how ignorant you are. Pathetic,

[@ravenharris1257]

@@justice-jb5ld The bully teenagers. Right! I agree.

[@jhaytee5148]

Of course he remember! Those boys and women who stand as witness are ones can't remember most of the incidents. All of them, they change their story after they talk to each other and after the prosecution talked to them. ALL OF THEM.

[@antonio-w6x3b]

The jury dropped the ball and failed .. these were punks who attacked a man who had no choice but to defend himself.

[@emmanuelp324]

🤣

[@shannonhart9374]

Did you watch this whole video? He ran up to the kid in the inner tube and started touching him and the kids saying whoa, whoa. None of those kids knew what his intentions were and that he was thinking the kid in the tube had his phone.

[@drynoodleyt5623]

he had a knife in his pocket while river rafting, pulled his knife out before any violence even happened in front of two women to say the least. watch the whole video next time bud

[@antonio-w6x3b]

@@shannonhart9374 Jury Dropped the Ball... The man was attacked by a group of Drunk, High on Drugs punks, ''Did you take any of that into consideration? ''Obviously Not''

[@sallychasen1793]

DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO AND TRIAL????????? HE ADMITTED TO EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!! Although painful to watch, he admitted to everything

[@faylestock4086]

Miu is constantly saying he doesn’t remember …this is all lies!!

[@stevelarios317]

True, but it doesn’t matter if he remembers or not. The video shows what everyone needs to know.

[@KrissyFace]

I missed a couple of witness testimonies but if I was on the jury, I’d find Mr Miu guilty. Not sure which charge but he chose to show bravado instead of walking away. Kids were punks though. Shameful!!

[@staymadcheaters5066]

you would find him guilty but you're not sure what charge? Grow up.

[@KellyMorris-x6k]

Watch the video. Not guilty

[@tomsanger5548]

@@staymadcheaters5066 He admitted to "I stood my ground" in a non stand your ground state & said he pushed Maddie & that was after he had the knife out with the blade open.

[@deemarie2408]

That's an ignorant statement, NOT having heard all points of view... why bother commenting if you don't care to look/hear all the facts... SMH

[@tiffanieoverby7803]

@@staymadcheaters5066yes because as of today we’ll end of today they added lesser charges so my assumption would be that is what OP was referring to

[@kevinfrench239]

I totally lost all sympothy when seen the video of him telling cops he heard someone got stabbed n he heard he matched description. He wasnt honest bout it when confronted at first .Shows guilt

[@kevinbuda7087]

shows residual fear.

[@REPR100]

Or fear

[@BubbieDesai]

He was scared!

[@coleengogerty3852]

@@BubbieDesaihe wasn’t scared. He didn’t show fear when he made zero effort to leave those kids alone. He wasn’t scared when he pulled a concealed weapon and went after the the girl when she had backed away and stabbed her so bad he drove the blade all the way into her. He wasn’t scared after he stabbed her cuz he continued to stab 4 more people even though he was outnumbered. He stabbed all those kids, walked back to his group and proceeded to continue down the river. Scared would be running out of that river and hiding. Not acting like he did nothing wrong. He’s absolutely mental.

[@Rachel_Ryder]

YUP. This is what changed my feeling from innocent to guilty.

[@dougiechilders2528]

They attacked him he had every right to defend himself. If people would just mind their own damn business this kind of stuff wouldnt happen.

[@shawn47240]

The kid he killed wasn’t even near the group. You tried.

[@connerswigart5397]

He walked up to the group knowing he had a knife then when being told to walk away multiple times to leave stayed there. After which he hit a woman which started the physical conflict. He wanted the conflict he was provoking it he knew he had a force multiplier and he wanted to prove a point.

[@terrysmith907]

After watching the police camera where he's lying about not knowing nothing that's going on is not a black out or shock. He's trying to get out of the shit he caused.

[@deltron3030z]

That doesn’t mean it wasn’t still self defense-

[@anne-michelefortmann5246]

He is a lier and if there was no video of the stabbing, he would have escaped the police. His anger flared up during the questioning. He has to control his reactions. He didn’t look sorry one bit when he looked at the video of the stabbing. He looked intensely at his handy work. He is full of shit.

[@sergeybrin1963]

@@anne-michelefortmann5246 He's guilty of lying and defending himself. Can we agree o that? We should not trust anything he says. Everyone else clearly lied. We should not trust anything they say either. We just have to look at the video. And in the video everyone is harassing him, surrounding him, he's not looking for little girls or hurting anyone and just wants to look for his stuff, he gets touched, yelled at, and he takes out a pocket knife and as he's being knocked down over and over he stabs people because he wants them to get away and stop. Unfortunately someone dies. I don't think he even wanted to kill anyone, I didn't even know until now that a pocket knife like that could kill people, I thought that's why there's limits to their sizes.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@anne-michelefortmann5246 Nonsense. It’s the exact opposite - if there was no video, this would have been a slam dunk case for the prosecution, which is exactly why Nic lied in the beginning out of pure fear that he’d never be believed with the full truth. It was his word against a Lord of the Flies mob of 13’s word, and they were already lying about him from the beginning with all the horrendous accusations they made against him and names they called him. Luckily the chump that started all of this (Cockfield) filmed it “for the culture,” which vindicates Nic acting in self defense. P.S. The word is spelled “liar,” kid. Not “lier.”

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@anne-michelefortmann5246​​⁠​​⁠ That’s absurd. It’s the exact opposite of your claim- if there was no video, this would have been a slam dunk case for the prosecution, which is exactly why Nic lied in the beginning out of pure fear that he’d never be believed with the full truth. It was Nic’s word against the mob of 13’s word, and they were already lying about him from the beginning with all the horrendous name calling and accusations they made against him - things that are the worst you can ever call a man or say about a man. Luckily the arse that started all of this (Cockfield) filmed it “for the culture,” which vindicates Nic acting in self defense. And there was no “anger flaring up” in Nic’s testimony here. Why are YOU fibbing so much?? By the way, the word is spelled “liar,” kid. Not “lier.”

[@ronnie4796]

Never heard a prosecutor say “right” so many times. Annoying

[@NatalieFromCA]

The prosecutor tried so hard to twist so many facts, to paint his particular “story” involving “the kids” 🙄. He was absolutely annoying as hell!

[@deannalynne1626]

You haven't watched many trials then.

[@REPR100]

Slimy attorneys love to do that, they don’t want your answer they want to create a bs narrative

[@asmallbitchybanana]

How about the obnoxious defense attorney saying “correct” every 5 minutes. Works both ways.

[@wereback3771]

Isn't that leading the witness

[@mybricksters9800]

He was so scared that he just stood there and pulled out a knife instead of leaving like they told him to multiple times. I would believe it was self defense if he started walking back to his group and the boys kept following him over there.

[@rawfoodphilosophy7061]

He was so scared that he charged at them and grabbbed their legs while they were sitting in their tubes. The fear must have been tremendous........or.........was he humiliated?

[@tinabrown9958]

If only he would've walked away, not lied, not attempting to fleed the scene. & more importantly showed any remorse afterwards 😮

[@Charmander009]

He is an alpha male. He couldn’t handle his ego being bruised. He didn’t like how they told him to go away. He wanted to make them pay, but in the end, he is the loser because now he has to live in a cage till he dies.

[@PaxDisturbia]

@@Charmander009 He may have fancied himself an Alpha because of his hunting and gun ownership and firearms advocacy as illustrated in his now removed social media page, but he is not. He simply was too proud to go back empty handed without snorkel and phone to his group and wife because he would have had to endure the shame of being backed down by rowdy, disrespectful, teenagers. So, he risked everything for a different outcome, and look where it ended up. What a foolish Delta of a man.

[@miss_dezire]

Yep, that ego sure did eff him up tht day..!

[@shamina1908]

He was so afraid that he didn't walk away. He actually came back and was ready to gut people over a lost phone that wasn't his.

[@Megalonysight]

@@GrandpaLinkWatch the video he runs up to them as he feels to make sure he has his knife.

[@saynomore2619]

Miu doesn’t know if it’s HIM in the video?! Are you freaking kidding me!

[@j.james-88]

One thing is certain, this guy didn't have a fair trial. From the lying prosecutors to the woke snotty judge. Every other statement or question from the defense was objected to and sustained by the state/judge. vice versa from the state. america in 2024... if you defend yourself, the govt will persecute you. We've seen it over and over again.

[@CC-uq4hu]

He probably disassociated from the event…I have complex ptsd from multiple events over a long period. The first time I disassociated.

[@Neil-ym8vy]

Playing stupid

[@zosukumakunene8761]

⁠@@CC-uq4huAaaaaaahaaaaa oh please he has more like “complex l-i-e”!!!! Gimmie a BREAK!!!🤣🙄🙄😂😅GTFOH

[@theresonlyonegod769]

@@CC-uq4huget the hell out of hear. If this is the case everyone has ptsd

[@HammerPaired]

Prosecution: “If your anger scale was a pepperoni pizza, how many pepperoni’s would be on your pizza?”

[@livea3596]

😅