Colin Cowherd - The Strong Will of Michael Jordan and the Power of His Brand

[@sargonian12]

Any teammate of MJ who ever complained that Mike was “mean to them” should just throw their rings away.

[@louisstrong9405]

I agree. Them damn championships heal all wounds

[@m3xic4n91]

You can say that again.

[@joshjones9749]

Notice his best teammates, Pippen and Rodman, never had a problem with MJ being mean lol

[@Zdkim]

MJ is respectable in how he overcame things... and he didn't shift blame, he didn't point fingers, he didn't have a victim mentality.... he pushed himself and others to achieve greatness. I think that's why his teammates don't say anything bad, because they understood where he was coming from beyond his character flaws.

[@absofnlootly7094]

and he never threw any teammates under the bus in front of the media.

[@chickhearn4ever779]

Very important statement. Jordan critics these days always point the finger , claiming 1-9, even though that 1-9 came at the beginning of his career and he overcame it. I find that much more respectable than winning, losing, winning, losing and having a career that is a rollercoaster.. Nobody can claim to be on a consistent growth pattern except Jordan. Not even Kareem. I won't even mention Lebron, because most of his team accomplishments are finals participation awards (silver medals), oh an a bronze in his first olympics. On a tangent though, Jordan did lead a team of college olympic players to beat NBA hall of famers. Had he not been in a cocaine circus bus team, he would have achieved more, at a faster rate.

[@tangaraspeedgoda7436]

True

[@dcgrrl321]

Colin Coward actually started this video with that BS? This woman wants a man to be a man that is not defined by an utterly ridiculous bullshit definition of masculinity. Not the kind that thinks draft dodging Cadet Bone Spurs in the WH is tough because he’s mean to ppl when he’s risking nothing! And one more thing Colin, sometimes I want to eat somewhere that my mate picked and sometimes I want to eat what I picked. If your wife needs you to decide where she eats every time you eat out, she needs to figure out who the hell she is.

[@trejones9751]

G Talks when people ask about your leadership and u answer the question that’s not feeling the need to let everyone know about your leadership, thats answering the question. If what you said is true jordan took that and multiplied it by 10 with this docu-series. Hell colin literally took a jordan quote where he is talking about his leadership IN THIS CLIP lol

[@evilkodrix3208]

MJ was always the ALPHA😎

[@eddycherestal8208]

This documentary is gonna make the NBA players tougher.

[@Chessbox09]

I hope so

[@zogood3495]

Hopefully

[@FOECO_J.R.Zoning]

How? They don't make the rules. Jordan caused the league to be this way.

[@KNByam]

Yes, because the next time Harden throws himself on the ground he gonna hear it.

[@JohnDavis_90]

@@FOECO_J.R.Zoning how?? Not flopping. That's a step

[@bgb946]

See the human side of such a strong person like Jordan is amazing. Seeing him breakdown just from talking about it shows how much of himself he put into the game.

[@therealdannymullen]

Was telling my wife that. I LOVE seeing his "human" side, like when he broke down talking about pushing his teamates and called for a break. Like, it actually does hurt him that people think he was mean. You could see it in his eyes, he approached teamates like a father figure - the "you might think I'm mean, but I'm just trying to push you to be all that I know you can be" mentality.

[@seanldean4213]

MJ is a symbol of excellence,that's why his apparel stands the test of time... period!...

[@shadowwarrior2030]

Good point. Michael is the truest definition of high standards.

[@peterstark4562]

That's the reason why his name is being used as an adjective or used to describe the best person in a certain profession (jordanesque / the michael jordan of .... ).

[@Chessbox09]

Very true💯

[@xudongliu7232]

Two thousand some years ago, Confucius said "己所不欲，勿施于人" ("What oneself doesn't want, do not impose to others"). And in that quote of Jordan, he said "I never asked my teammates to do something that I didn't do." What a beautiful coincidence! I find tremendous peace in that.

[@LpCruz11937]

"Thats you. Cause you never won anything" Damn thats hard

[@RealMrGreenTeaLatte]

Stonehall Studios I thought it was because you never "wanted" anything.

[@LpCruz11937]

@@RealMrGreenTeaLatte I'm pretty sure it was won considering how competitive he was. Its a powerful statement at least in how he delivered the message.

[@RealMrGreenTeaLatte]

@@LpCruz11937 Yep, You're right. I checked ESPN quoting it themselves and they captioned it as "won".

[@tangaraspeedgoda7436]

Truth is hard

[@aaronmeade1546]

Damn Colin on his MJ now and telling everyone how it is.. idk if he's always been like this but it feels like he's not talking out of his ass anymore

[@LpCruz11937]

I wanna leave a like but 23 likes felt right

[@MrCHITOWN247]

Colin always liked MJ...he just like to ruffle some feathers....for example saying LBJ is a better passer...shooter...rebounder. (his statement not mine) ...But never said LB was a better player....All Along Colin said MJ is the GOAT...He just like to stir things up and it works....Right now there is nothing to talk about accept that documentary. Long live the 🐐

[@seanldean4213]

He's been slobbing on LeBrons nut sack for years up til this docu started...smh...guess he got tired of the flavor...🙄

[@stoniptfosupersonic]

@@MrCHITOWN247 sry man but thats wrong. He was talking how lbj was better player then mj for yrs until the last season when lbj missed the playoffs. Than he realized its to late for lbj to catch mj so he switched sides, AGAIN.

[@cyber6sapien]

@@MrCHITOWN247 Not sure how anyone with a fully functioning brain could say LBJ is a better shooter than the greatest midrange shooter of all time. Colin and all these sportscasters are told by their employers to ride LeBron's knob all day long because he is the current face of the NBA. But as soon as a window opened up for these sports companies to start directly make money off of MJ again, they come clean about who the TRUE GOAT is! Plain and simple!!

[@smokesmitty1]

Cowherds wife took care of his morning wood so he spitting facts i get it now

[@williamcampbell1499]

😂😂😂

[@jonathanblaze1648]

Taking out the trash = Morning BJ.

[@nunyabusiness7927]

That's hilarious. :-)

[@leonardobraynen1524]

YOU must be married too, huh? That was funny btw.

[@BijinMCMXC]

What is wrong with you people lol

[@Destiny-ps6cs]

MJ was competitive and winner.

[@MichaelKing-bd7il]

Michael Jordan is real no fake like LeBron James

[@wchan6755]

Amen

[@meeee500]

What makes lebron fake . I actually think lebron is more of a man than Mike could dream of being lebron steps up and stands up for his community/ people he takes on social issues pushes the culture forward. But This is why he is king . Please jordan will never be more of a man than lebron.

[@One_Black_Panther]

Yo, u guys love having Lebron in your mouth. Yet still yall claim u don't like him? How does someone u don't like take up so much space in ur mind? Just curious as it's weird behaviour.

[@jayemz7384]

Cellytyree so it’s only sensitive blacks that hate Jordan because he didn’t stand up for them! What do you expect MJs a NBA STAR at the time he never signed a contract saying he will start getting involved in “POLITICS”! Lebron james only got involved with that because he wanted the spot light nothing more FACTS 💯💯🔥👌

[@karljaysondalus9438]

@@meeee500 LeChina

[@ifareaged]

Physics has Einstein, Sport has MJ, some people just leave such a deep impact they'll never be matched. Not surprising Jordans are still the #1 shoe in sport

[@tangaraspeedgoda7436]

True !

[@pakpala1]

My physics teacher is still #1.. MJ will not be MJ without TV, internet etc.

[@JakeJon]

Collins PREACHING out here today!!! Ps. The debates over before it ever begun. Even the kids are silent. MJ Is the GOAT until someone else knocks him off. And LBJ isn’t even as close as Magic, Kareem or Kobe.

[@gelosuarez115]

Jake Jon Nick Wright not giving up the fight. He emphatically put MJ as the 2nd greatest last night. that clown

[@JakeJon]

See It 2wice that’s what’s up! Maybe we’re old fashioned and we just believe that championships do matter and you have to beat the best to be the best. I do love LeBron ad what he stands for BUT he didn’t beat Kobe and he said It himself before the all star matchup that Kobe (whilst he was in his prime) was the number one player in the league and he was number two. Now Kobe is obviously not playing the only way he can beat him is to get six championships and then he’s in a conversation with Jordan. until then I’m not interested in that comparison.

[@JakeJon]

gelo suarez Nick Wright thinks he’s slick he loves to use stats out of context to push his agenda. He’s an absolute genius at manipulating the narrative. But it wouldn’t work with me I’d love to sit down with him and have the GOAT debate

[@pauljansen1137]

"Air Jordan" is a brand that stood the test of time for 35 years already..MJ is one of the most well known athletes ever..This guy became a billionaire with his brand..to my generation he is some kind of a sports God (up there with Maradona to us soccer lovers!)..He is the all time sports legend if one is to take all these factors into consideration!

[@francescorogazzo6263]

To add credit to what you say, I'm from Naples, I've witnessed first hand Maradona greatness, and his comparison with messi is identical in every aspect to the lebron-jordan debate....80 and 90 football WAY MORE taughter than today

[@Chessbox09]

Soccer fans view MJ in the same way as Maradona? Wow that’s impressive

[@francescorogazzo6263]

@@Chessbox09 yes, Maradona and Jordan have in common the tought mentality in a toughter era,a controversial personality, a God-like effect to the people ,and a way to play the game that become a prototipe for the Generation to come

[@pauljansen1137]

@@francescorogazzo6263 agreed Francesco!!

[@pauljansen1137]

@@Chessbox09 like mr. Rogazzo said..it's like a MJ/LeBron discussion..so i have to be carefull about that lol..there are people who claim Pele was the best, others say Messi or even Ronaldo..matter of generations!

[@yaboy1414]

People call Jordan Trash with Jordan’s on Lmao 🤣 Issa Fact 💯

[@nostalgicgamer1363]

Lol

[@goated3285]

Who the is hell grown still buying Jordan’s? Buy the time you are 25 you should have own most of them seeing how he recycles releases. If u haven’t move on to designers then you still immature.

[@ericjordan6059]

@@goated3285 .... Wearing designers is immature

[@yaboy1414]

Russell Westbrook Fan since 2010 😂😂😂 u winning 💀💀💀

[@tangaraspeedgoda7436]

Jordan is the man! His career is like the ultimate spiritual journey right in front of our eyes !!! Thank you MJ..

[@booshine187]

Mj is da goat. Luv from brooknam

[@solephonic]

the air jordan 3 is iconic design wise. it's a work of art.

[@jackterman2387]

Colin “my wife is proud of me for taking out the trash” cowherd

[@1POLOCEE]

Jack Terman and being a multi millionaire lol

[@MarcTheSparcTV]

I can tell this really hit home for you Colin

[@o0oStillWeRiseo0o]

Just got my Fire Red Jordan 5 in the mail and ordered gym red Jordan 1 lows today!

[@sargonian12]

Why am I a part of generation Z wishing I could experience the 90s?

[@vick82sydney]

Pretty simple to me why it still sells... he is the GOAT.

[@Frostshokula]

4:50 Colin channeling Jerry Seinfeld 😆

[@gavinoctavien1400]

Them threes can’t help you when they ain’t falling in and that’s why Steph froze in the finals a couple times.

[@noeljohnson1069]

He froze but Atleast you got to witness him winning 3 titles while you were sitting at home 😂😂

[@EverythingHappens4AReason]

Whoa is Colin over here dropping some legit woke bars I’m shocked

[@truthteller5521]

Django Bravo Nah, this the opposite of woke. Woke is for the broke people.

[@EverythingHappens4AReason]

Jason Martinez what’s the opposite of woke bro tell me 🙄

[@balachow]

michael impacted the culture so much, the young ones doesnt even realise it is part of their life now

[@eugenereeves418]

Jordan's are so NAME BRAND kids buy Jordan's who don't even have a clue who Jordan is or look like🤷🏿‍♂️

[@yaboy1414]

Big Facts.

[@DaviMourao]

Yeah, I think he's missing that point a little bit. A lot of people just know the name or the logo, not necessarily who the man/what it means. "Jordan" is not a special edition inside of Nike as a Lebron or Kobe shoe is, but pretty much it's own brand.

[@JohnDavis_90]

That always happens in time with brands. Who started Balenciaga? Gucci? Reebok? KIDS buy Jordans cause that's what adults buy and have deemed the sneaker standard. Jordans are Forever

[@forevergooner4400]

True

[@tbus809]

I loved this guy and what he brought to the game, an the NBA a pioneer. Now I respect him even the more because now we see the actual fuel of the fire. I'm sorry that that uniqueness is now few and far between now because of how the game is played. The 80's and 90's was the best era in NBA history.

[@Ahmedaphor]

“I like soccer, I think It’s really becoming something” -Colin As a huge NBA Fan from Canada living in Asia... I can say yea... Soccer is “ really becoming something!” LoL

[@sj4632]

It's not "becoming something" it's already the biggest sport in the world.

[@diegomagellan]

Don’t tell the Americans lol.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

Colin "I'm a man" Cowherd

[@eladllessur]

But some of the older generation didn't have that mentality either. Charles Barkley, Shaq. Lebron. I only seen it with Kobe, Magic, Bird, and Jordan

[@tashrif46]

I have to say Episode 5-8 are the high points of this documentary. You really do get to see the absolute best of the mentality of Michael Jordan

[@jasondaley718]

Colin has been leaning hard into his republican love A LOT recently I wonder why

[@stampede4107]

Liberals like compassion, equality, helping others. Conservatives like independence, hard work, maturity. We need both. Both have shadow sides.

[@drakefaden1464]

Mr So-n-So Conservatives like conserving their ability to make millions while their workers do the hard labor. That’s why they call Employers the “Capitalist” class and workers the “Labor” class. Because Jeff Beezos does not do 100x the work his employees do but he gets 100x the pay. He actually does less work then his employees. Conservatives are called conservatives because they want to “conserve” these positions of getting more money for doing less work then their employees.

[@tango400016]

@@drakefaden1464 And democrats claim equity but then start hoarding all of societies wealth for themselves.

[@stampede4107]

drake faden A lot of honest, hard working people also want to conserve the wealth and power that they have built up, even if it isn’t close to comparable to that if Jeff Bezos. If you gambled all you had on a small business and it ends up taking off and you enrich yourself, your family, your employees, their families and all of your customers, you wouldn’t want to conserve that success that you earned? Michael Jordan’s parents seem conservative, as does he. Charles Barkley is. Shaq seems to be as well, coming from a military family. Lots of people from all different walks of life fall in the conservative and liberal camps

[@danh.5998]

drake faden when’s the last time you were employed by a poor person?

[@LWH768]

This segment right here, just explained why Jordan is the G.O.A.T. (DCOG)

[@USeeMe2012]

Walt “Clyde” Frazier had his own shoe with Puma long before Jordan. He dressed fly as hell and drove a Rose Royce

[@Tuan-FistofFury]

Since the first episode of the documentary, his jerseys and basketball cards are going up in value. The demand is huge.

[@lastdance8800]

Very insightful Colin

[@tharealg.2728]

Micheal is even more likable.... He set a standard for his team and you just better wanna be a Champion if you are on his team... He might be able to clean it up a little but forcing all his team to lift weights is Epic and shows his total Will Power to uplift a team... Glad we get a chance to look behind the curtain and see what Exellence looks like....

[@Bigtimer58able]

Love your point , %100

[@cetinsadik7969]

Colin, I am in a leadership position in education. This segment has resonated with me so much. Great take aways. You have certain leadership skills that shine to my eyes. You know how to convince or influence people with your "assertive, aggressive, and charming character" We may throw a little bit of sarcasm in there too. Sense of humor mixed with intelligence appears to be dominant at times. We have seen that you are emotional too from your other videos. These are "good to have traits." To me, you demonstrate some parts of Michael's mindset too. That may be why you get to choose where you are going for dinner.

[@EverythingHappens4AReason]

Colin tryna red pill America 😂

[@OmarScruggs]

Steph much more athletic than given credit. Hes very atletic. It aint just about dunking

[@williamcampbell1499]

For once Colin is spot on about Jordan. But 'greed' is not good.

[@jayceewriter7826]

Brilliant ! You are spot on

[@RushedPhenom]

Colin nailed this

[@SunshineSurfsup1]

You nailed it!

[@oscardublina2782]

Mj is a winner ain’t nothing else to say he saved the league and still saving the league hand down the Goat 🐐 watch greatness

[@mdean5964]

Spot on

[@xjustinian995x6]

😂 dam colin you lost all your feminist and snowflake viewers with this one

[@paulcharles2457]

Bout damn time

[@Starlesslight]

The difference between Jordan and other players making deals with brands, is that Jordan essentially is a part of Nike. Other guys will make deals for a time with companies and eventually have nothing to do with the companies any more. Jordan will be a part of Nike forever.

[@chey6975]

And he should. He made Nike popular when it was one of the brands.

[@lancehood7916]

Yes sir

[@odelljones6482]

Man I agree with you 💯 percent!

[@jacobbradley8290]

Mj was winner that's why we like him

[@SuperSonic_868]

Right off the bat with the marriage talk. Yes!! I love it

[@edithgandia847]

It's okay to like what you like. And I like MJ. I LOVE MJ! He's the best! He's the G.O.A.T.! He won't let you down. And that's ALL that matters! 👊

[@LpCruz11937]

The other half of changing the sport for MJ is how so many tried to copy his style and by happenstance created the defensive era of late 90's to late 2000s with almost every guard trying to inefficiently shoot mid range jumpers. He kinda recreated the physical Pistons if you think about it.

[@cyber6sapien]

The defensive era really started with the Pistons in the late 80's. They had success against the Bulls with their overly physical style of defense, which was later copied by Pat Riley's Knicks of the early 90's. The Knicks had the most success against the championship year Bulls by pushing them to 7 games in the playoffs at one time. The Knicks' physical defensive style was then copied by the Pacers and to a lesser extent the Miami Heat. The league then became overly defensive overall in the late 90's through to the mid 2000's. In MJ's absence, the league started to change the rules to make it easier for perimeter players to score. Major rule changes included removing hand-checking and implementing the defensive three second rule so that rim protectors could no longer camp out in the paint and protect the rim. All of these rule changes were a response to the fact that other perimeter players could not replicate what MJ was able to do on the floor, so they had to weaken the defensive rules to make it easier for them to score.

[@jhford1234]

Amen!

[@pentelred]

Mike Jordan became Master Chief of the NBA

[@benjaminmaximusblessmanjr991]

💯💯💯 real talk

[@Lamppostout]

I’m new to Colin Cowherd. Is it true he once said that if Michael Jordan played in the modern era he’d just be a good jump shooter?

[@Lamppostout]

Swing lol quite a 180 degree turnaround from that judging by these recent comments about MJ.

[@HanSoloBolo]

One thing I can say about this quarantine is that it is forcing this generation to see why MJ is the greatest to ever play. When Jordan was playing there was no argument from the media, the players or even the fans as to who the greatest was. There was no argument people just watched in aw. We might be several generations away from the person that will undeniably dethrone MJ as the goat. All the debating now is fodder for debate and conversation.

[@64kdawg]

Damn, MJ is goat af! Cowherd spitting 🔥. MJ is The Alpha dog.

[@mrdeveraux5891]

MJ THE GOAT. NET WORTH $2.1 BILLION DOLLARS

[@toddmichaelsen788]

Picking a good Thai restaurant is the manliest thing you could ever do. 😆

[@DTex]

I’ve always said...being asked if someone is a nice guy, or being asked if you’re a nice guy, is a question that’s loaded like a baked potato.

[@johnthick1225]

Mike made 2020 alittle bit better with everything that's going on

[@cedricbethea358]

Seeing Michael Jordan on free TV NBC every year was a big deal to me and my friends that's how we got into the NBA and Michael Jordan.

[@angelusgnz5784]

y’all do realize that admitting that MJ was the ultimate alpha male means that you accept that you are now the beta , right ?

[@jayjizzo5014]

Colin say he has no time for the wokesters but everyday he's on it talkin about Mister "WOKE" and best Justice Warrior LeBron James day in day out and now all of a sudden he wants to come into light because he see real masculinity he just needed to keep it 💯

[@jasondaley718]

Your comment is as dumb as your KZbin name

[@shinningserpent2]

jay jizzo LeBron is the most famous athlete in the United States you moron.

[@ygftucdhjb]

Stop changing the comments to the top of the page.. Wtf!!!

[@robertlan222]

The media presents us with all opinions from all sides. We can pick and choose witch side we want to listen to at any given moment. We shouldn't be upset that there is always some portion of the media that is presenting an argument counter to our own opinion. We should instead be happy that there is somebody out there sharing our opinion on whatever issue is up for discussion.

[@tylerestopinal9619]

I am a fireman shoutout💪

[@kennypalmer3000]

Mj is as real as they come because he is not all in the news like everyone else in the NBA he is just a private person he has provided that he's the goat hands down period...

[@Matt-cr4vv]

People also like things just being genuine. In a world where so many people back off on things and play it safe about everything for fear of people getting mad seeing an MJ who just owns what he did and the mentality he had and explains why he thought that way and has such passion for his competitive fire is just a level of genuine that has become almost non existent in todays world. Things of a prior age that may haven been seen more negatively are more embraced in a modern culture where people won’t hold strong to who they truly are all for fear of perception. And the final nail is that MJ may have been tough and demanded a lot but he demanded the same or more of himself and you hear that from every single player or coach he ever had. You never hear that he didn’t bring it. Every one of them points out that he was tough but that he brought it every single time and that he didn’t expect anything from somebody that he didn’t expect for himself. That’s a major key as well.

[@jmsflora279]

What is Nike paying MJ? He has to be the most underpaid athlete ever.

[@pooneyheat]

@Red HawK13 Excuse the poster😂😂🤣🤣

[@dapperdonmilli]

@Red HawK13 of $3 billion 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@chey6975]

I don't think Nike pays him anything anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he gets a portion of the sales from all Air Jordan products.

[@Jboooog18]

@@dapperdonmilli that continually pisses me off, he getting treated like a hoe. 150 million out of 3 billion, sheeesh

[@Frostshokula]

4:34 Keto dieters: 🤯

[@DelarryCarter]

Yall know Jordan image would be way different if he played during the social media era... Niggas act like that ain't a real major factor.

[@trdiopn5737]

Herd gets goofy when he starts pontificating. Amateur philosophy at its worse. Stick to sports.

[@ExodusPessoa]

I agree. His "Wall Street" analysis is ridiculous.

[@chicanopowers4938]

Jordan's shoes are comfortable; Lebron's shoes are clunky. Jordan brand is a quality product that stands the test of time.

[@KazenoniKakuremi]

Brett Favre? 🤣

[@Cue-B]

That's a hot take Colin

[@pentelred]

Adidas didn't turn him down, they couldn't afford to give him a really good deal. It's sad because adidas is low-key on of Mike's favs

[@DelarryCarter]

Imagine Jordan played the same exact way and loss. Then he Westbrook lol.. I guess winning cures all.

[@bewokelastdon7132]

Exactly

[@luzonrodante704]

Mj Consistency Efficiency Leadership

[@Jason-ue9ym]

The league has been trying to replicate Jordan. They even took defense out of the game, it’s not even a game anymore.

[@MrMark19148]

Colin: “I’m not here to tell you what to think.” Colin moments later: *Trashes youth and progressivism and endlessly pushes conservative ideology*

[@jasondaley718]

Yoooo I thought I was the only one that caught that lmao

[@howequalspeace]

Some conservative ideology is ok

[@i__skins__i]

Retro Jordan’s sell.... not any other brand of Jordan’s... they drop a pair what seems like every other week... Kids who are adults now that couldnt afford them as a kid flock to stores and online to buy them now.... they make a limited number which makes people want them even more... 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@CPSlayer]

Watch Sharpe take then watch this. Literally feels like Colin taking a shot at him

[@kmd1010]

Great content as usual, had to listen it again lol

[@anthonymilne8015]

MJ is the OG of influencers trande setter that’s why as a brand will out last most of these pros

[@natesmith8362]

MJ’s next shoes are top sales after this documentary....

[@goozy6790]

why. .its because all his shoes has stories and its all true. .it speaks on the last dance and when he start in nba. .its all true. .he maybe surpassed by kobe and lebron but the trueth is that they where not closed if he played earlier, did not resigned after 1st pit and continue played until 20 seasons. .maybe jordan has 10 rings and maybe he top the career points of nba. .

[@lorennerhus3611]

Colin “I like oatmeal” Cowherd

[@greatscott7003]

Remember when Colin used to devalue mj?

[@eladllessur]

Not to keep beating up on the younger generation of players, but i don't see the younger generation with MJ's mentality.

[@christianluu2994]

Is Michael's dad really a good guy? He taught his 13 year old daughter how to kiss when they were young...lol

[@MarcTheSparcTV]

Steph Curry would beg to differ🤷🏾‍♂️

[@nevelefilms7336]

Marc The Sparc he checked in with Ayesha first just to be sure