FPV Acro Freestyle Basics! Pop, drop, manoeuvre, catch.

Let's get back to basics! I hope this helps out some of you out there wanting to get into freestyle acro with your miniquads. In this tutorial we look at how to set up for many popular manoeuvres by some of todays top FPV pilots. If you would like to see more basic tutorials like this, please let me know. Have fun and fly safe! NJ ** My setup info below **
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Quick note: i should mention, at 4:30 i mention the two higher revving motors are driving the roll around the axis, in fact those would be the opposite side (which the did slightly earlier in the manoeuvre). What you're seeing here is the opposite motors kicking in to regulate that roll rate. It just bugs me when i realised and already uploaded! So i thought i'd mention it :)
Betaflight 2.7.0 (first flight after upgrade, Looking damn good!) on controller RW - Airmode
SPRF3 (4K looptime)
Little Bee 20A - flashed with Multishot@4K (MS 14.5)
EMAX RS 2205 2300kv
QAV-R
4S 1400mah Multistar 65C gold spec
HS1177 FPV camera
GoPro 3 Silver
DAL Prop Q5X4X4 Quadblades
F1PV custom angled QAV-R camera mount. f1pvtech.com
X4RSB
Taranis X9D Plus (speaker upgrade, 6 pos switch upgrade)
Fatshark attitudes + faceplate
Controller Rewrite on 2.7.0
RC rate = 1.0
RC Expo = 0.60
Yaw Expo = 0.20
Rate Pitch and Roll = 0.55
Rate Yaw = 1.3
Super Expo = 40
Deadband =3
Yaw Deadband =10

[@KPV_UK]

That's gotta be the clearest explanation I've seen yet. Subscribed

[@NJ-Tech]

Karlos FPV thanks man, really appreciate that :)

[@lf5133]

Wow! great explanation for a new learner. The graph charts of sticks and rotors were an exceptionally helpful visual. You nailed it for me as far as filling in the gaps in my trial an error process. I'm 62 yrs old and my older brother says my brain won't keep up with the speed these things are flying. As in I won't be able to process the speed of the drone quick enough to ever be a good enough pilot. I'm certain your vid and others like this will help me prove him wrong. Thanks bro.

[@NJ-Tech]

Larry Faucett hey thanks Larry what a compliment that was! and I'm really glad it's helped out. damn right you can prove them wrong, keep me posted how you get on! Cheers, NJ.

[@IDriveAnAudi]

This is some very high quality instruction! This is so well illustrated and the way you break it down is really easy to grasp . Your teaching as well as the production quality of this video will definitely keep me coming back for more. Thanks!

[@nithinrajkotian5346]

This is the best explanation I ever seen in KZbin. I really appreciate your time into making this. This is really helps us to get to know more about the manures.

[@supergrooover]

thx for the clear explanation! I just got into fpv flying last week, dont even have my goggles yet, but practicing in the sim and doing a bit of LOS flying with my rodeo 150. Being a paragliding instructor i appreciate how difficult it is to explain things properly and wanted to say you did a great job.

[@NJ-Tech]

Thanks my friend i appreciate that! KEep it up and you'll sail straight into your first FPV flight im sure :) Cheers.

[@BJMoorhouse]

Love this! Exactly what I, as a complete newbie, need to get me started with a good foundation in what appears to be some of the basic principles.

[@marioburgener1323]

ou i just bought a quad on saturday and looking for training videos, this is by far the best I've seen, ill get back to those videos as soon i have the flight basics. Thanks.

[@NJ-Tech]

My pleasure, thanks!

[@jlarson42]

Finally someone explains how these tricks works in a way i can understand. The slomo playback and narration is so helpful. Thanks :-)

[@danielmetcalfe5985]

Wow I’ve been watching loads of sticks tutorials and this has been the best by far I’ve seen it’s really hard to watch sticks and fpv footage so slowing it down shows exactly what you are doing ! Excellent I hope you do more !

[@NJ-Tech]

Thanks! There are about four more on here, and im looking at doing some new ones some time soon.

[@bobturner3388]

Fantastic! Finally a well made,easy to understand educational video on freestyle Fpv !!I sincerely mean this Thank You! I subscribed to your videos and can't wait to see what else you have!

[@NJ-Tech]

thanks for the kind words Bob, more in the pipeline

[@vincents3334]

Exactly what I was looking for. Step by step explanation to practice until it becomes natural. Thank you. Subscribed.

[@digitalmojofpv6217]

Have to say one of the best videos I have seen so far showing detailed info on how to do some these moves. Thank you so much, I am still flying los and trying to make the transition to FPV and acro but it is a slow process since I don't have a spotter to help me but at least I have plenty of area to fly in.

[@NJ-Tech]

thanks man I really appreciate hearing comments like this. keeps me driven to keep doing them :)

[@digitalmojofpv6217]

Yes please keep it up... I started building these quads 6 months ago and just now really getting the time to learn how to fly and any info is such a big help to me... I get really excited when i can apply someones knowledge and better my skills or future skills.. Thank you

[@jamesmanderson5311]

thanks that really helped me out . i have to rebuild my quad now because i didnt know what i was doing i was trying some of these and i was doing them all wrong!!! i cant wait too rebuild so i can try like you showed it thanks

[@NJ-Tech]

glad it helped :)

[@willd.8040]

Fantastic explanation.. Subscribed and hoping for more of this kind of video! Bravo!

[@NJ-Tech]

Thank you! Glad it helped :)

[@ferdinandf3208]

Thanks for the post, more than a year down the road, this is still a very good resource for beginners like me.

[@NJ-Tech]

thanks for the kind words, glad its helpful :)

[@ILLBEDRONED]

Stumbled across this and wow glad I did! Awesome tutorial, well explained! Stick overlay and slomo great visuals! Another new follower! Thanks and stay safe!!👊😎👍

[@NJ-Tech]

Thank you sir, appreciate it!

[@PERTHWESTOZRC]

Thanks for such a great acro 101 tutorial on how to fly race quads.. Something I'm looking forward to getting into soon, subbed

[@NJ-Tech]

Most welcome and thanks for the comment :)

[@bitsinmyblood]

Great. I'm new to FPV and this confirms what I've been observing in really impressive acro/freestyle videos. Great video!

[@NJ-Tech]

thanks, hope it helped out! :)

[@bitsinmyblood]

NJ Tech yeah I've got less than 20 hours in, so I think I'll wait until I get everything tuned and some more experience. it's really tough. if you'd like to track my progress, check out channel. I'll be posting videos of my learning.

[@ChrisM-yr5tt]

Thank you very much very informative video. Showing the stick positions were very helpful. I just subd. I have been flying small quads and a phantom 3 for 1.5 years. Just bought the Walkera 150 rodeo to get into fpv. I am planning on getting the fatshark dominators after I get used to LOS flying with this little racer.

[@NJ-Tech]

+Chris M thanks man, glad it helped.. Welcome to the addiction ;)

[@FunFactorRC]

Sub'd, I am learning acro. I appreciate the explained visuals. I feel that I can now understand and see what I need to do and I hope the transition to actually doing it is smoother because of. Thank you sir. I'm gonna go check out a few more.

[@NJ-Tech]

Fun Factor RC Welcome. Thanks for the comment! :)

[@suubierex9396]

Very clear and easy to understand; cant wait for my Echine Wizard X220!

[@barbelmeister]

I love your explanation - so I subscribed! Thank-you.

[@NJ-Tech]

Thanks :)

[@selcukdoganhoca]

one of the best teaching videos! thanks

[@NJ-Tech]

Thank you! and you are welcome :)

[@testtesttesttest183]

The best explanation in the world!!! Thank you so much!

[@NJ-Tech]

Thank you man ☺️ glad it helped. Happy flying :)

[@annasarahkramerfazendeiro8030]

Great explanation, thank you! I will definitely watch the rest of this series and hope to improve my inferior flying skills.

[@NJ-Tech]

thanks! I hope it helps out and have fun :)

[@censrd]

THANK YOU, this is what I've been looking for in "how to fly" videos, clear narration with easy to see stick movements... PS what app do you use to record and display your stick inputs and motor speeds??? Another happy subscriber:)

[@NJ-Tech]

The Sweep you're welcome :) it's called the blackbox . betaflight and Cleanflight have their own versions available in the chrome app store. your flight controller needs a database chip on board to log the info though. something to read up on before you dive in.

[@Tiz777com]

Very well explained! Thanks for sharing!!!

[@NJ-Tech]

Cheers! :)

[@johngraboski]

Outstanding! A whole new world for me. This rocks!

[@NJ-Tech]

Thanks :)

[@johngraboski]

Without any training I tried something like a roll today... looked maybe like flying spaghetti...

[@winstonnugara5226]

Just starting out - this is an awesome tut! Subbed!

[@NJ-Tech]

Thanks very much :)

[@TomFrajer]

Thanks! I will start soon with ACRO mode on my Tiny Whoop :) Now I have one month training in stabilized mode and just started flying 270mm drone stabilized. Once I learn basic ACRO techniques on Tiny Whoop I will flip the switch on my 270 drone and never return it back :)

[@NJ-Tech]

let the fun begin! :)

[@cineskies114]

thanks for your explanations!!

[@NJ-Tech]

welcome :)

[@CozziFPV]

these vids are awesome thank you !

[@NJ-Tech]

Thanks Adam, hope they help :)

[@Hamel40]

Thank you so much! Very well done.

[@JSKCKNIT]

Thanks for the great tutorial.

[@NJ-Tech]

hope it helps! :)

[@takoza5396]

thanks bud ! great vid i sort figured it out ...trail and error but nice to get some rly decent pro info ! ^^ thanks budy

[@NJ-Tech]

+takoza Thanks, appreciate it! :)

[@takoza5396]

yw budy ;-) credit where credit is due ;-)

[@ianchambers9693]

Awesome piloting skills... gonna try this soon with my F210-3D :D

[@NJ-Tech]

+Ian Chambers 3d! Nice :)

[@hamsterfpv6461]

Great tutorial, subbed!

[@NJ-Tech]

thanks :)

[@darkocerda3345]

Thank you for all your tips. :)

[@dleivam]

awesome, the best explanation ever.. subscribed!

[@NJ-Tech]

David L. thanks man. glad it helped :)

[@sharonotm]

great as always! thank you for sharing 👍

[@NJ-Tech]

+sharon otmazgin thanks Sharon, appreciate it! Still waiting for your next video ;)

[@elir5590]

Very Helpful, Thank you

[@pablisito]

I just learn something. V.good video. Tomorrow will be practicing theories. Thanks

[@rasc-travel]

great explanation thanks

[@NJ-Tech]

+copterio no problem and thanks :)

[@DashzRight]

Amazing video.

[@NJ-Tech]

thank you :)

[@lukeparkinson2686]

where did you get that Frsky neckstrap? also your vids are wicked man helped me out with many questions that i had!

[@Bonkers122]

Great Job man!

[@NJ-Tech]

+Bruno CarmoFPV thanks brother! :)

[@PFStH]

very nice! that hubsan sounds great

[@NJ-Tech]

+Ben Martinez lol!! yea this X4 is a beast

[@PFStH]

NJ Tech the only problem is you drive your car like that too ! Back next week yo

[@NJ-Tech]

+Ben Martinez i have never inverted my car! Only in my dreams...

[@serjioautoexec4092]

thank you man, good vid!!!

[@NJ-Tech]

+Serjio Autoexec thanks :)

[@GeorgeCooper_LoneWolf]

Cheers pal very helpful.

[@NJ-Tech]

no problem and thanks :)

[@coasterchi]

Awesome video and well explained! What program are u using to sync the blackbox data with the gopro footage? I've got a Vortex 250 which has a black box and I also want to sync some footage. Thanks in advance!

[@NJ-Tech]

+renesebastian hey thanks :) it's the cleanflight blackbox app which you can pick up free on the Google app store where you get the cleanflight configurator. It's a chrome based app.

[@florianw.3852]

Wow great Video. I like this videos a lot. Is it OK to use the 250mm frame for freestyle

[@NJ-Tech]

Florian W. Any size is fine. All the principles are the same :)

[@tntneon]

great video. wonderful. Be Blessed

[@NJ-Tech]

+tntneon Thanks man, appreciate it!

[@rf2632_]

Thank you!

[@robjuanamo7563]

great vid mate

[@NJ-Tech]

+Juanamo FPV Thanks my friend!

[@Lyrixnl]

Great! Will be trying some "acro" my self soon :D

[@NJ-Tech]

+Lyrixish enjoy! :)

[@thegreatmechanizedape8262]

awesome video, you should have way more subs than 7K.

[@WorksopGimp]

Great tips

[@NJ-Tech]

cheers :)

[@jamesmanderson5311]

what about the walkera f210

[@NJ-Tech]

what about it?

[@redogg2749]

Great Vid! Very informative, Looks like the Cardington Hangers in background? round corner from me if so...😆

[@NJ-Tech]

Redogg Damon correct! Are you part of the bhbc multirotor group on fb?

[@redogg2749]

NJ Tech No? But i would love to meet up with some fellow fpv'ers and maybe learn to fly freestyle. I have just finished my 215mm 4s build. 😆

[@NJ-Tech]

Redogg Damon go join the group and mention you've chat with me. We organise lots of meet ups. There is a good number of us round this way

[@redogg2749]

NJ Tech Thanks, have done. Would be great to get some tips and tricks. 😆

[@checkeredflagfilms]

Thanks. In the trick you're rolling on the 'frame' axis. Do ever demo the same move by combining a bit of yaw so the you're rolling on the axis of the camera angle?

[@NJ-Tech]

Yes that's possible and actually part of keeping a centred inverted yaw which I have a few tutorials on. The second of which I discuss more in depth. If you're feeling a little lazy there is a setting called camera angle mix which applies this for you on the configuration page, though there is a tiny bit of latency added, nothing you'll likely pick up on though.

[@checkeredflagfilms]

@@NJ-Tech Yes, I've heard about that setting in BetaFlight. Are you aware of anyone that has done a comparison, real world comparison with/without that setting implemented?

[@NJ-Tech]

@@checkeredflagfilms yeah plenty have tried it and some keep it on. Personally I prefer to have it in muscle memory for certain manoeuvres as for some it would be undesirable.

[@rebeloftheskyfpv6947]

Great vids to help us out thanks 😎 can I ask what cam angle you have ? As when I do a roll I end up like 90 deg from where I started ? Would this do with angle of cam ?

[@NJ-Tech]

+rebels of the sky I use about 30 degrees up-tilt on my FPV camera. Rolls should actually be easier with 0 degrees up-tilt so im not sure why you are finishing 90 degrees off? make sure that you are clean with your inputs of the manoeuvre. If you are touching the pitch by accident during the roll, then that would cause you to finish in a strange position.

[@rebeloftheskyfpv6947]

+NJ Tech yea prob me need more mussel training thanks !

[@ddfwaj]

Awesome vids! I have been flying quads off and on for about a year but just got into Freestyle a few weeks ago and having a hell of a time with it. I downloaded FPV Freerider to get more comfortable with it but its not very accurate (don't ask LOL). What do you recommend for a good sim?

[@NJ-Tech]

Dennis Forbes thanks man :) my favourite is actually hotprops which is free, but does require the most setting up to feel right.

[@AlexCastignani]

thank for your video!!

[@NJ-Tech]

no problem, thanks for the comment :)

[@BrigzyFPV]

Very helpful, I am just starting with FPV and have just managed to get a grip on Acro, (just posted a new vid of it) and looking at how to start pulling basic aero's, chopping throttle in the roll etc is something you might not think to do instinctively but now I will when I try it. I have rolled in Horizon but not Acro, it's the thought of... "will I be able to come out of the trick in control" or not? With Acro it's so different, it won't (obviously) arrest the roll when level... I think I will do with some height until happy. Thanks again, really good vid, what is the program you are using to show us your video, it's a great way to display and explain your tricks. One question, is it common to have your Failsafe kick in when you are FPV'ing? Like when you fly slightly behind something solid? It happened to me twice the other day, both times it activated when I went close to out of sight but not fully. My latest vid has one at the start and one at the end, both show it Dropping and crashing, both Failsafe, just wondered if it's common? Or do I have a problem? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYfSe4RoobGEgc0 Thx again from Kiwiland!

[@NJ-Tech]

you're welcome, yes failsafes can happen when you break line of sight to the quad behind some more solid objects, so fly cautiously and try to not put large objects between you and the drone as it can block the signal enough to cause a failsafe. Happy flying! The program is called blackbox.

[@kwak_rc9792]

Great video dude. Gonna try this tomorrow. sub'd

[@squidwerd1981]

What are you using to get the overlay on the flight video? Would be nice to be able to do some post-flight evaluation of my stick throws.

[@NJ-Tech]

its called bletaflight blackbox explorer. Your flight controller needs to have an onboard flash in order to log the flight info/inputs etc. You select it to record via a switch in the modes tab of betaflight. Then you can download the file from your flight controller and drop it into black box explorer along with a video file of the flight. You then line up the start of the blackbox with the audible arming beep from your video and youll see everything going on with the sticks as well as a heap of info about the PID controller over the top of the video. There are quiet a few videos out there on how to set all this up.

[@rl2769]

Subbed! You fly like a boss!

[@NJ-Tech]

ah thanks brother! :)

[@rl2769]

I’ll have my walkera f210 by the end of the week and my plan is to only practice acro mode until I get the hang of it. I don’t wanna get complacent in horizon mode , I’m gonna take my time a learn to fly fully manual from the start. I think will be better for me. Thanks for the reply.

[@NJ-Tech]

no worries! Yea just take your time and as i said in this video, nice and high so you have loads of recovery time. You'll be ripping in no time ;)

[@paulterl4563]

Thank you.

[@ggweslie4145]

thank you for your work! i will Subscribe now

[@NJ-Tech]

:)

[@LineAnimation]

Excellent HowTo....Thank you!!!!!!!

[@NJ-Tech]

welcome :)

[@LineAnimation]

+NJ Tech You have explained it very well and that is a talent...very well done.

[@JaxTellerRC]

Awesome!

[@NJ-Tech]

thanks :)

[@JaxTellerRC]

NJ Tech No worries (0:

[@DONTBLINK]

this is great, I'm going to practice this rolls in the lunch break. Thanks so much for the help. I kinda had the "Ahaaaa" effect on the throttle with this video.

[@NJ-Tech]

DONT~_^BLINK thanks for the comment. Glad it helped clear some things up! take your time and have fun :)

[@DONTBLINK]

NJ Tech it was awesome, first time in airmode, love the hangtime, ypur throttle guide really helped. looking forward for the other trick videos once I feel save with the rooms. Subved your chanel, great stuff

[@jester3265]

Slick video!

[@NJ-Tech]

thanks :)

[@MikkelNal]

Nice video😊 you got it one extra sub

[@NJ-Tech]

Thank you! :)

[@fotoamgamgfoto3695]

why not full throttle while flip? fc would give thrust only to right side motors and faster flip with some flying down of course for a while?

[@NJ-Tech]

+FotoAmg AmgFoto the flight controller is acting like a mixer. If you ask for full throttle and flip it will be powering through the flip way off its axis. Much like a small powerloop. If you try it you will see :) to keep a tight flip close to axis you must bring the throttle down.

[@sperzieb00n]

does a multirotor also get some extra lift when it is flying forwards?

[@NJ-Tech]

multirotors have nothing aerodynamically to offer that helps with lift when moving. Like their helicopter cousins, they do become slightly more efficient in forward flight due to what's called 'transitional lift' across the rotors, moving into clean air. Hovering is actually the least efficient thing to do.

[@ziggyzbeak]

Thank you

[@NJ-Tech]

thank you!

[@thegreatmechanizedape8262]

in acro, when you put the stick center, it will rigt the quad? Or no?

[@thegreatmechanizedape8262]

NJ Tech thank you. I have only flown in horizon about 5 times. don't want to risk acro untill I know everything about it.

[@mrmurder75]

I have the basic flips and rolls down, but I'm going to learn how to roll out of them slower now as per your video. One maneuver I do want to learn is when you see a pilot (and you do it in this video too) is a loop. It looks like the nose points skywards and the quad climbs vertical and comes over to do a complete loop. I can do those all day long on my planks, it's easy enough, but I'm having trouble working out how they are done on a multirotor. It seems to my mind, it just shouldn't work!

[@NJ-Tech]

+mrmurder75 haha i know what you mean, and you do have to 'use the force' a little as you point skyward. But it's really about entering with a little forward speed, plenty of power and just enough back elevator, then keeping committed with the power/elevator until the inverted horizon comes into view, and yea it just feels unintuitive waiting as you come around, but it will be there and you will be lots higher.. Ill add this one to the list anyway :)

[@mrmurder75]

+NJ Tech that's great, thanks make. It's always helpful to us less skilled to see how the pros do it. I've just literally come back from the field. Really enjoyed it today. I almost got a loop out of it, unintended but a loop none the less. I found myself nose straight up and on the power, if I'd kept it in I think I would of done it (or crashed horribly) but I lost my bottle and pulled out of it. Maybe next time!

[@mrmurder75]

+NJ Tech oh, an as per your video, I taught myself to roll and flip a lot slower rather than just banging the sticks. Previously I was a little afraid to not do it quickly, I just wanted to get it over and done and get back the right way up. But today I've been rolling and flipping backwards and forwards, nice and slowly. It certainly looks better and smoother in the goggles that way, hopefully it looks good on the video too.

[@NJ-Tech]

great!! Yea it's that commitment thing for sure. So good to be flying again, feels like the wind has been relentless these last few weeks.

[@mrmurder75]

+NJ Tech yeah bigtime. Windy I can cope with, it's pretty breezy today here, but it's the constant rain! Blue skies today so I made the most of it!

[@Sam-w9des]

i do have one more question bout this quad. on flight modes is it just like on a heli? so example lets say I put it in flight mode 2 or 3 does that mean its idled up and throttle wont change when I flip it or do high speed flying it just maily turns throttle into pitch control? THANKS

[@NJ-Tech]

So the flight controller is in some way doing that, well actually its doing all the hard work! All the controls are active all the time. It's not like a Heli idle up where throttle is maintained at a set rpm as such but I get where you're are going with the comparison. When you front flip at a set altitude for instance, the rear motors are briefly spinning up faster than the front motors to bring them over the front (a front flip) whist the front motors drop rpm so as to not add resistance to that flip. When the flip stops they resume whatever throttle position they were at to maintain that set altitude. Now, conversely, say you wanted to do that same front flip whilst the quad was climbing at maximum throttle? This time the quad would see all motors are at max thrust so in order to gain that same front flip it can't generate anymore thrust from the rear motors so it just drop the rpm on the front motors to achieve the same thing. I hope that makes sense, but what the FC is doing is adjusting what thrust it has in any given situation to achieve what the pilot wants. Thats a very basic description mind, its infinitely complicated whats going on, as as well as that it has to maintain stability in the other axis and correct for external forces like wind etc. Its pretty amazing the more you think about it :)

[@Sam-w9des]

THANK YOU MY FRIEND I understand more now as I'm not a quad flyer or ever had one iv just been a plane guy but I was thinkin bout getting this quad for some fpv. I have the first gen dx7 so I thought bout getting a dx6e to upgrade a little bit. I really appreaciate your time and Thank you for the knowledge.

[@NJ-Tech]

Sam you are most welcome! I'm sure you would love it ;)

[@thebudtendercannabisclubla7173]

Thanks buddy and yes i suscribe 2 ur chanel wreely helpfull this vid!!!

[@NJ-Tech]

Glad it helped, and thanks for the sub :)

[@sgollega]

Hi NJ, I noticed that you are always moving forward without applying pitch forward all the time. Is that your camera angle or maybe your engines are mounted with some angle (lets say, 10 degrees?) I am asking that because I need to pitch forward more often to go forward than I have seen you doing. I am using 25 degrees on my fpv camera. What makes you keep going forward? Thanks for your help and tips!

[@NJ-Tech]

Hey there, so in rate mode when you set the pitch forward it should maintain that angle and keep moving forward with just thrust to stop you sinking. If you quad is needing constant forward pitch and wont keep its nose down when you let go then your 'i' term is too soft and needs increasing. If you watch my PID tuning video i talk about how to tune your quadcopter to get this right. I have no angle mounts, and i run a camera tilt of about 25 degrees. Hope that helps :)

[@MilanKarakas]

I have this log device, but can't use it because have no idea how to interpret data. What is the name of this visualizing program? Thank you in advance.

[@NJ-Tech]

its called the cleanflight blackbox explorer

[@MilanKarakas]

Oh, thanks. That is so cool.

[@max246]

very nice tutorial, I am getting into fpv and it is very hard to look into the goggles and fly around. I wonder if it is better to get pretty good in acro in line of view then switch over to goggles. also what kind of mode are you in? acro or air mode?

[@NJ-Tech]

Christian Bianchini both acro mode with air mode enabled. although it's a great idea to keep working on LOS skills, all it takes is time in the goggles to get used to it. start with good level circuits and just keep at it, it will get better with every flight I promise :)

[@max246]

NJ Tech ahah yeah I am ok flying in angle , and getting used to acro. already smashed few props and having a go every day. I am ok flying high but want to get some fine motion with low ground and obstacles. let's see..

[@BrigzyFPV]

Acro is Air Mode. If you switch to Acro it will display AIR on your OSD. I had the same question, I am also brand new to FPV and Quads. This is what I did and it worked great. Get used to your Quad in LOS (Line of Sight) flying but just in Angle and Horizon modes. Try some Acro but you will find it very difficult, I did. Flying Acro LOS is completely different and way harder than Acro in FPV. In FPV you have the advantage of seeing FROM the Quad so you can adjust attitude very quickly, not the same as standing there looking at it, that is very hard in Acro. Get LIFTOFF Simulator and practice Acro, then go out and lift off in angle mode, get moving and switch to Acro, you will find that after using the simulator it becomes natural and you will be surprised at how easy it is, must have some sim experience to work out how to fly Acro... I just did my first Acro FPV yesterday and it went much better than I expected, it's so much more fun... it's not that hard. Have a look if keen kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYfSe4RoobGEgc0

[@NJ-Tech]

Actually no, acro does not mean airmode. Acro means the level mode is no longer engaged (the accelerometers) and just the gyros (rate mode is its true name) are engaged. Air mode is a selectable 'mode' you can have permanently enabled or on a switch which works together with rate (acro) mode to give you full rates (movement in degrees per second) on your sticks extremes on pitch and roll at all throttle positions. There are videos explaining this in more detail if you search in youtube.

[@BrigzyFPV]

Sorry, I know that but what I was trying to say was, when you select Acro/Rate Mode it usually displays as AIR on your OSD, not Rate or Acro. I switch to Acro and also switch on and off Air Mode to keeps my motors running at zero throttle, which is what you are saying about airmode. Cool..

[@kamilgotz]

thx

[@airplanegeorge]

how do you feel about thumb vs two finger stick control?

[@NJ-Tech]

I spent the first 10 years of my RC time using thumbs, I went to 'pinch' after that when I was flying 3D helis and have done it that way ever since. I just felt like it gave me more precision. Though I think its pretty 50/50 across all types of pilots and pretty subjective. Give both a good go to get used to them is my advice, you'll soon see which you prefer.

[@airplanegeorge]

thanks, 50 % sounds good enough, after 40 years using my thumbs I think pinch might be a ruff transition. I've bean learning fpv drones and think I can see where pinch is more precise. maybe i'll experiment with shorter sticks.

[@itak1982]

Hi! How come you are using 20A ESCs with these motors and props? Wouldn't 30A be more usable with this combination? Sorry for a nooby comment :)

[@NJ-Tech]

remember they are 20a each so a combined 80amps nominal and can handle up to a ten second burst of 30 amps each for a total of 120 amps. that's plenty for a little 5 inch quad ;)

[@itak1982]

Thanks! I'm pretty new to the hobby and was just looking at the amp chart provided by Emax for these motors.

[@NJ-Tech]

+Gregor Ambrozic you also have to remember static thrust tests aren't like they will be in flight because unlike the bench, the quad won't provide as much resistance as it actually moves with throttle increase in the direction of thrust which reduces the load/current draw

[@itak1982]

OK, that makes so much sense. Thanks again :)

[@torstrup97gaming25]

Wat a bout walkera f210 3D ?

[@Sam-w9des]

what ya need elevator on a quad, I mean if u give it throttle it climbs right?

[@NJ-Tech]

You need elevator (or pitch) for the same reasons that you need it on a helicopter. If you can't adjust the pitch of the nose you can't direct the thrust to move forward. Ever notice a helicopter hovering is flat, but then when it moves away its nose goes down to start moving forward? Pitch is as vital to how a quad flies as it is to all fling machines.

[@NJ-Tech]

Above and beyond - 'sun in your eyes'

[@Sam-w9des]

u know I layed down last night kinda late and thought why did I ask such a dumb question lol im used to planes so for some reason I just wasn't thinkin when I posted guess the late nights are getting to me. Thanks for your comment

[@rexfarell]

Would it work with a mini quadcopter? let's say Hubsab X4 .)

[@NJ-Tech]

there are plenty of miniquads on betaflight that fly fantastically. The hubsan no, mainly because its a self levelling quadcopter, there is not rate mode on it. Plus the ones with fpv are heavy, it just doesnt have the thrust, unless you want to get serious with your mods.

[@davieb1969]

Hi, Is this Shocott Spring by any chance?

[@NJ-Tech]

it certainly is, well spotted ;)

[@davieb1969]

ah thought so, I couldn't think of anywhere else near Cardington like that; hangers are a dead giveaway :)

[@sohansunku1016]

what fpv tx are you using

[@NJ-Tech]

quanum vtx from hobbyking, nothing special :)

[@LukRC1]

Nice :)

[@NJ-Tech]

thanks :)

[@harrysmythers6815]

Where about are you based, I would love to find some people to fly with.

[@NJ-Tech]

+Harry_ Smythers Bedfordshire :)

[@wackywezfpv9335]

At last brilliant explanation with the slow motion, perfect for a 64 year old fart like me, keep them coming

[@NJ-Tech]

haha! You're most welcome

[@rogercligg2913]

Trick photography!

[@NJ-Tech]

lol!

[@shplayshiggty7537]

Pop, drop, and lock it

[@ambermeows150]

Great guide for a noob like me (:

[@NJ-Tech]

+Amber Meows ha :) thanks and have fun!

[@pennandy]

NJ TECH I see carding ton hangars lol I have a Bedfordshire group where we all meet chat and fly if you're interested?

[@LeoTheHuman]

"You know, uhm... you know..." (: