FPV on an EDF Jet?!? Motion RC Freewing T-33

[@motionsic]

Thanks for the shout out Patrick/James/Motion RC! Head-tracking FPV in jets is truly thrilling, especially like the way you fly - low, fast and close to the tree line. Great flying! Great Fun! “Fly from the cockpit!”

[@MotionRC]

No problem 👍. I am sure he will check the comments later, but he spoke highly of the help he got from you.

[@motionsic]

Current FPV and Head-tracker vendors make people jump through hoops to set one up. Wish Motion can offer an HT FPV all-in-one plug and play solution - including pan and tilt gimbals (small enough to fit tight cockpits).

[@racerx600rr]

I really have enjoyed your inspiration building and flying of your FPV models!

[@alphamrc309]

@@motionsic I'll keep that in mind!

[@motionsic]

Alpha MRC If at all possible, please make canopy optically clear without orange peel effect. I’d love to keep canopy on if it does not degrade visual quality too much.

[@justanotherguy469]

Dude, you landed that FPV? WOW! I feel like I'm 12 years old again! You guys are great! Thank you!

[@MotionRC]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@alphamrc309]

I could land it in FPV, too, it would just he in 50 pieces, not 1.

[@alphamrc309]

It's insightful to observe how often the Major looks to the side to sight the horizon and his position in space. VERY impressive situational awareness and superb flying, as always!

[@motionsic]

Alpha MRC With the right head-tracker setup, ie. 1:1 camera to head movement, it’s completely natural to look ahead into direction of turn - just like full scale flying! I like how the major looks to the side during loops to check pitch orientation once horizon move below cockpit.

[@alphamrc309]

@@motionsic I agree, which is why Head Tracking is the only way I can fly FPV within an enclosed cockpit. On a wing or drone, fixed/wide is fine

[@Airguardian]

Agree. I do that all the time on my FPV Su-35 to make sure I have a mental position of where I am relative to the runway at all times. Particularly important if there are no-fly zones in the clubs where you operate which is more the norm than the exception ;)

[@matthewbrothers2823]

I like to have tilt, for looking over the top on loops and stuff like that

[@BlackPixxelDE]

This is awesome! I am flying FPV for many years, but with the scale cockpit view and the beautiful runway and taxiway it is the next level!

[@MotionRC]

It really adds to it all

[@MaxSupercars]

"Honestly this is one of my childhood dreams - get yourself small, put yourself in your favourite toy plane and go fly it!" 😂 Thanx for inspirational cool video! I must try it and fly my F-14 Tomcat and my all other RC planes... 😄

[@MotionRC]

Go get'em! The world is our oyster!

[@johnnydep8979]

Awesome pilot and i think he has done the world first FPV edf jet inside the canopy like the real deal. Took off, flew around and landed in one piece. Hats off 2 u sir.

[@MotionRC]

Thanks so much!

[@JustPlaneCrazy]

Love the iron eagle reference. I love how he is chatting doing head tracking and giving a tour out the side windows

[@MotionRC]

Patrick is a great teacher and so happy he doesn't mind flying on camera for us

[@AndrewFlyGuy]

Dat centerline discipline! Well done, Maj Croasdale. I really need to get on that head tracking FPV train.

[@MotionRC]

Thanks for watching Andrew....maybe that MiG needs some FPV

[@majesticness3609]

Absolutely love the "scale taxi way", adds so much more immersion to the flight

[@marcovandevelde]

I've been flying FPV planes for a couple of years now, it's supergreat. Tilt added to pan for camera is not per se necessary but makes it even more realistic. There's a little button on the headtracker so you can reset before the start to your "level" head position.

[@MotionRC]

Oh definitely, Tilt adds another level as well, Patrick doesn't didn't feel the need for it with his setup

[@davidclark2702]

That was fun, guys! Thanks!

[@MotionRC]

Our pleasure! Thanks for stopping by

[@badroosterrc]

Wow, that was incredible! It looked exactly how you described it from when you were a kid wanting to shrink down to get into your favorite jet or other toy aircraft. Thanks for the video, that was truly amazing.

[@MotionRC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@matteotivan3414]

Love how the view of the camera in the canopy is just like the real one

[@MotionRC]

He set it up well for sure

[@DavesRc]

I'm all in, gotta do this myself. Wow that was an experience.

[@MotionRC]

It's really cool. It looks so strange from line of sight too as he looks like he's going to hit the trees

[@JeffsCustomRC]

Felt like I was actually there guys, awesome flying as always, thanks for all the hard work👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼

[@MotionRC]

🤙

[@hamiltonshangar]

Bro this is awesome!!! Amazing flying!

[@davidsnyder238]

Very cool, enjoyed the "RIDE"!

[@MotionRC]

Awesome, thank you!

[@rcman7753]

This was awesome! Great job guys.

[@MotionRC]

Thanks so much!

[@Mrtcoltpilot56]

Very interesting. Would be neat to try that out. Great flight to by the way.

[@MotionRC]

Adds a different experience entirely

[@NICHOLASRGLORIOSO]

Tim Toutant You should put DIS On your Turbine Jet hey!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@fpveverything7129]

So awesome you guys did a video on FPV!!!! This is awesome!!!

[@MotionRC]

Thanks Alex. We love it all!

[@RCPlaneReviewer]

Cant say how cool this truly is!!! 😅🤣🤣👍

[@MotionRC]

You just did! ;)

[@maxun1]

Just a fantastic fpv pilot.

[@MotionRC]

hahaha, and he's been doing FPV for about a month

[@6Sally5]

Hey Maj Patrick...the guys at Flite Test constructed a chair with a functional stick, throttle, and pedals! This would be right up your alley! Thank you for your service. [Salute]

[@MotionRC]

That would be cool!

[@racerx600rr]

I saw that! It would be an awesome upgrade!

[@MotionRC]

@@racerx600rr if you roll up to CCRC with a full cockpit set up, that'd be amazing

[@halroofner4069]

Very, very cool!!👍👍

[@MotionRC]

Thank you very much!

[@Rider95king]

One word guys you're all awesome it's just fun to watch you guys fly such amazing jets no matter if it's FPV or not and I do think those tree line are pretty scary or maybe it's just normal perception from viewer angle of view . This FPV setup is really something interesting to try on my own jets . I really wish in future we can order custom built FPV jets from Freewing .that would be so cool.

[@MotionRC]

That would be really cool!

[@comfort_in_discomfort]

What a great idea on the second channel FPV to give rides. That would be really cool.

[@MotionRC]

Great for events. Get the kids who grew up on video games more involved

[@royalanania3306]

Beautiful 😉 jet and the view is Majestic

[@MotionRC]

Thank you very much!

[@tunaflights7258]

I fly the T33,Avanti and the FMS A10v2 all Fpv and you are 100% correct about landing being more difficult. Although you make it look easy

[@racerx600rr]

Well thank you sir. It was not my prettiest but it will do.

[@wei48221]

This is awesome!!

[@MotionRC]

Thanks so much!

[@roythurston7799]

Like how you give a little tour

[@LWJCarroll]

Thats interesting to see rotate only for a more simpler system and still get a great view around. Thanks Laurie bNZ.

[@LtDavidB312]

I’ve seen a few people do FPV on both prop and EDF birds. One of the most impressive is still the 8-year-old video of someone’s Eurofighter Typhoon which sadly ended in a crash. I cannot tell you how badly I would like to see more large RC planes/jets that are sized for people who want to put pan/tilt setups in the cockpits for the most immersive experience!

[@MotionRC]

I think our latest FlightLine Warbird caters to FPV so well and I plan on setting it up soon. The OV-10 Bronco has a huge windowed canopy.

[@LtDavidB312]

Motion RC Looks I have some investigating to do!

[@JustEnoughRC]

About time someone else caught on!

[@MotionRC]

Hahaha

[@JustEnoughRC]

@@MotionRC installing fpv on my new f5n right now infact.

[@victorrcjets7660]

Nice flying Patrick, although I have not done much fpv I did okay when I did try it. But it would still feel weird to transition everything to fpv.

[@MotionRC]

It always good for something a little different sometimes

[@jerrywillfong5770]

Just did the maiden on my T-33. Great airplane. My first EDF.

[@MotionRC]

Awesome Jerry! Glad it went smooth

[@alphamrc309]

Good place to start, Jerry, congratulations!

[@jeffarab4947]

Wow so cool that is really exciting I want to try

[@MotionRC]

You should!

[@jasongregory3950]

This is awesome... FPV is really getting where it needs to be. It does add a whole nutha level. Now models can be offered with optional FPV ready canopies.. hint hint...

[@DadsRCHangar]

That’s very very cool. Unfortunately I cannot use normal goggles because my pupils are wide or something. So cannot have one picture as to say. Major is a great pilot to fly FPV inverted. When is it your go James 🤓

[@MotionRC]

Making my own T-33 canopy to formation with Patrick soon!

[@MaxSupercars]

@@MotionRC That will be a cool video! 😃 More cool would be to fire like in laser games. Plane would shoot a beam and another one would have a sensor for beam hit detection... 😝

[@motionsic]

@@MaxSupercars Yes! Motion are you listening?!

[@shelbyseelbach9568]

Fantastic!

[@MotionRC]

Thank you! Cheers Shelby!

[@bitogre]

I want to see a video of flying a F-14 Tomcat FPV. Love the idea of doing it tandem with independent systems.

[@MotionRC]

Patrick is on his way to getting there

[@brownsamurai3070]

Great video! Gives me some ideas for when my Yak 30 arrives. Thanks for the great price of the ARF version, oh, and the tax free plus free shipping! Damn, when I was a kid, G.I. Joes were 12 inches tall and the closest thing to a RC airplane was that POS COX on string that you spun around until you got dizzy. Nice to be living in the future, but still have the mindset of a kid 😁

[@adrianusseto1737]

Awesome.. thanks for sharing.. So this is what it's like to fly a jet fighter on VFR good job ! (flying without the help of instruments ! LOL)

[@MotionRC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@grumpyrse]

Awesome !!!

[@MotionRC]

Thanks!!

[@HolaACchillin]

This is so cool!

[@ChainsawFPV]

FPV makes everything better!!!!

[@MotionRC]

FPV for sure is fun

[@michey7822]

This makes me excited with fixed wings again...

[@MotionRC]

Awesome! Good to do a little bit of both

[@jetman899]

MotionSic has a really good vdo on this type of flying.

[@Dan-ru2pz]

Awesome video, love the accuracy of your flying at FPV, can't help but notice you have hooked up your runcam to the BEC voltage. I recommend wiring into your flight battery, so you can see when you need to come home. That's what I do, just haven't EDFed yet.

[@MotionRC]

Thanks for the tip!

[@Dan-ru2pz]

@@MotionRC no need for a timer when you have an OSD 😁

[@reeceengineering3560]

Dream come true

[@bobturner3388]

If you had DJI you'd of found that jet! Great video! Motion sic are an awesome group with a top of the line pan and tilt system!

[@JustEnoughRC]

Fpv everything!!!!!!

[@johanveltheim4331]

Put together real-plane pilot (fast jet?) skills and head-tracking FPV and the result is jaw-dropping. A true revelation. I may need to look into FPV for my planes...

[@MotionRC]

It adds another level for sure

[@reallifeacecombat6131]

This is pretty sick. Does motion sells the full set up to pull off something like this?

[@MotionRC]

Not everything yet, but we will in the future

[@motionsic]

Motion RC Would love to see an all in one plug- n-play Head-tracking FPV solution from you guys!

[@alphamrc309]

@@MotionRC Soon, friends, soon! Let us know what if you have any specific requests

[@motionsic]

Alpha MRC High definition FPV or bust. Really hard to tell what buddy plane is doing with low res analog setup. And wireless Head Tracker in the goggles, either connected via blue tooth to TX or transmit directly to vtx/air unit on-board. And small pan & tilt camera mount to fit in small cockpit.

[@reallifeacecombat6131]

Alpha MRC definitely need high res if I can play ace combat in real life I’d pay top dollar for high res with no glitches

[@ddfwaj]

Very cool! I just purchased another canopy for my Viper that I am converting to a DJI HD system. I was going to get a FS Trinity 3 axis head tracker module but I am interested how the Major was able to look side to side. Couldn't tell in the video but was he using a turn knob? Seem like that would be difficult to do while flying? I have seen mods on some radio's where they put a stick or roller on the backside of the radio.

[@MotionRC]

He had head tracking on his goggle for just the pan, but not the tilt. Didn't feel the need to look up and down. He talks about the setup in the video

[@motionsic]

@@MotionRC When your buddy starts pulling G's during dogfight, you will realize the need for tilt to keep bandit in view...

[@lancebbowman]

I've been flying my L39 like this since I got it:)

[@alphamrc309]

What FPV setup are you using?

[@lancebbowman]

@@alphamrc309 Runcam Eagle 2 pro, small 3d printed pan and tilt with 2 9g servos, RMRC 600mW vtx, fatshark goggles with headtracker installed, Taranis X9D+, 1MaH 2s battery, two matching Fatshark omni antennas. Easy:)

[@alebo62]

Firat time I saw Patrick without Sunglasses and his famous hat ... 😎😉 Nice video and flying!

[@MotionRC]

😁

[@TheManicblade]

Awesome! I fly my Freewing F14 Tomcat FPV...used to fly analogue like this but recently switched to DJI digital and MAN WOW! My F-14 also fires missiles (model rockets mounted on pylons and activated using a Turnigy receiver switch). Must get my act together and record and upload a video.

[@MotionRC]

Wow, be careful firing projectiles from an rc aircraft. Not sure you should upload that. But I would love to see how the Tomcat looks under the goggles!

[@MotionRC]

@@krotchlickmeugh627 with laws and rules. Firing a projectile from an RC aircraft is not advisable.

[@REDROBRCFPV]

Has anyone found the KZbin channel mentioned at 1:40 ? This is a great vid guys👍

[@REDROBRCFPV]

Ok found it kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3etYpWVftqri9E

[@NabiL_Lam]

This looks to be amazing experience. Would be better with the DJI HD FPV system

[@MotionRC]

Definitely! Can't beat HD FPV, But HD FPV can beat up your wallet

[@NabiL_Lam]

Motion RC yeah very expensive but worth it!

[@zozolione]

DJI HD nääh..no Headtrcker and no mic on TX so no sound for me must have for full expirience ..

[@NabiL_Lam]

zozolione you can get head tracking module separately and 3 axis cam mount

[@lac3rbi]

Hi guys amazing flight, i wuold really like to do it my self could you tell me which camera, vtx and goggles do u have?

[@racerx600rr]

Goggles are fatshark focal V2, vtx is immersion rc F band, and camera is the runcam Phoenix Oscar edition

[@Pandacat80]

this is so cool. perhaps one day we can have RC plane dogfights with real bullets

[@MotionRC]

Maybe not real bullets but an IR Lazer Tag type system that records hits would be cool!

[@delboogieduc]

“Weeeeeeee!!” lol awesome

[@MotionRC]

Best KZbin name ever

[@matthewbrothers2823]

This is why I have a second fpv unit for the back seat of my T28 so a second person can look around while I fly both with with head tracking.

[@matthewbrothers2823]

I may do a setup on my F4 with twin systems

[@MotionRC]

That's awesome, we will have to do it in the Tomcat!

[@matthewbrothers2823]

@@MotionRC heck yeah!

[@mdriyasatali]

Nice

[@MotionRC]

Thanks

[@aircapitalcustoms8048]

What kind of head tracker were you using? I didn't see a cable running from your goggles to your transmitter, was it some kind of wireless set up? I saw where you said your pan servo was plugged into the plane's receiver, so I assume it must be going through your transmitter somehow. I have a pair of goggles that doesn't have a head tracker built in so I'm trying to determine the best way to do it.

[@racerx600rr]

I’m using fatshark focal V2 that were made to wirelessly bind with Spektrum radios. It does away with the wire but the system isn’t perfect, and it loses connection from time to time but it is nice to have no physical connection.

[@getwrecked483]

Fpv is way to go!

[@MotionRC]

Sure is!

[@balrogdrums]

Awesome! How is the head tracking working? And what are the costs for These experience (without the plane)? Best regards from germany

[@themaddestbomber]

duuuuude finally brrro !! I've got fpv in my E-flite F15 cockpit but I don't have the swiveling maneuver stuff man can you paLeease tell me how to make my camera move around like that

[@MotionRC]

You will need a pan and tilt mechanism (google it). Then you would want goggle that allow head tracking. That links up to the pan and tilt so when you move your head the camera moves with you. We will eventually carry these types of items but google is your best friend at the moment

[@themaddestbomber]

@@MotionRC thank you so much for the reply, you guys are the best ... btw, I've had really good luck finding clear plastic water bottles with usable sections that make good canopy replacements.. soon my freewing 90mm Raptor will have fpv in the cockpit as well.. thanx again guys, ttfn.

[@rchiro]

I am used to a pilot feeling? That looks like fun

[@MotionRC]

Patrick flies C-130s for the Air Force as his day job

[@brucedent5402]

Totally awwwethome! Me likey!

[@billylozito1789]

i know this vid is 2 yrs old but if the companys that design and make these models need to engineer for more battery capacity so the edf jets can be flown in more than 5 minutes! it sucks to get only such in the air then in a short timeya gotta get back in just as you start to enjoy it!

[@deadbeef576]

I equipped an FMS F18 with a runcam and it makes flying and landing much easier

[@MotionRC]

Nice work!

[@deadbeef576]

@@MotionRC Wait till I modify my Freewing F14 with this and the sensors for altitude and airspeed!

[@bohan9957]

May I ask which field is this? it's gorgeous.

[@MotionRC]

This is the Cobb County Radio Control Club in GA

[@deadbeef576]

I am gonna modify my Freewing F14 with a Runcam in the campod underneath the nose, just like the pod of the real F14. Then an airspeed sensor, variometer connected with the OSD input of the camsystem to display airspeed and altitude on the video footage. And the best thing about the Runcam, its the Split version which sends video on 5.8ghz to the receiver but also records in FullHD on the onboard sd card.

[@BlueridgeAcres]

most excellent

[@MotionRC]

Thanks Robert!

[@BlueridgeAcres]

@@MotionRC unless he has a twin, i think Pat bought my P51 a long time ago

[@racerx600rr]

Robert Sprague I might have a twin. Not sure I’ve purchased a mustang from anyone besides a manufacturer.

[@BlueridgeAcres]

@@racerx600rr amazing!, another Pat and full scale pilot that flew C27 Spartans, etc.

[@jettechdonatkins]

sweet guys! what real planes did you fly Patrick? thanks!

[@racerx600rr]

I’ve flown Cessna 152-172-182, piper Archer, Navy N3N, Waco, RV-8, Turbo Commander, L-39, T-6 Texan II, king air 200, C-130

[@jettechdonatkins]

@@racerx600rr very nice Patrick,I'm a retired licensed A&P('18)after 40 years of doing it in Wichita,Ks.,worked foe a large cessna dealer,cessna factory and bombardier/learjet service center, I've worked on most any Cessna,Beech and most other general aviation plane and most all the corporate jets with the bombardier challengers being my favorite.Have a ton of experience on the garrett turbo-props like the turbo commander uses as well as a lot of pt6a and piston engines.Love anything the flies and makes noise.Not rc is my passion.You flew some nice planes!Thanks man!

[@giuliom8520]

Yeeeehaaaa!

[@justanotherguy469]

Gentlemen, is there any way to integrate 2 cameras and merge into 1 image for a more realistic 3D effect as you can do with a cell phone and 3D goggles?

[@MotionRC]

Not that I have seen yet

[@FPVDiverBomber]

I started making my own fpv planes, experimental airlines Ed, Then bought and fpv’d warbirds,,, now I want my first edf, to fpv,,,thinking of the 80 mm Sabre??? Or maybe the F16 70mm What would be you suggest for my first fpv edf? Currently dive bombing 3D printed bombs in my fpv T28

[@montypython8978]

Very Nice. Where is your field located? I am in Wisconsin.

[@racerx600rr]

Cobb county GA

[@thinano]

Please, could you tell us what are the references of the FPV and radio equipment you are using here ?

[@MotionRC]

Hopefully Patrick checks the comments later today and can answer you on this. Not sure off hand what he used

[@mortiogamer9149]

How you make the cam move with tour head movement? Crazy idea

[@MotionRC]

It's a system built into the equipment.

[@NICHOLASRGLORIOSO]

WOW! I feel like I have pulled 6Gs Here!! 🤣🤣🤣🙃🙃

[@MotionRC]

😂😂😂

[@josu_ch]

Bro's goin' Ace Combat

[@dragonlink2042]

VERY NICE FPV project 👍👍👍 BUT... I would eliminate the canopy rails in the front, they block the forward view way to much 😣😣😣 Having a single piece, clear canopy would improve the FPV experience of this plane so much more. Who cares if it was a little less scale, a clear canopy would make this experience 100 % better.

[@MotionRC]

Thanks for commenting. Great idea for sure, but personally I like the rails as it gives a more realistic feel to it.

[@tunaflights7258]

Like I said earlier that I have flown my jets Fpv and the head tracking modules for fat sharks seem to be difficult to find now a days. So, I recommend anyone seriously considering doing this and own fat sharks,start looking now for the head tracking module. This is a great experience but it still doesn’t replace the old fashion LOS flying as far as my experiences.

[@ThePaulv12]

Yeah and now what it needs is HUD telemetry esp an airspeed indicator.

[@racerx600rr]

I’m working on that. Looking for an OSD I like.

[@MotionRC]

Totally

[@ThePaulv12]

@@racerx600rr airspeed, flap position would be good. A landing gear indicator could just be a green LED on the dash in front of the camera in the field of view. A large antenna embedded in the vertical tail fin on the aircraft and an external antenna jack for head unit too l'm thinking.

[@racerx600rr]

ThePaulv12 all good ideas.

[@ThePaulv12]

@@racerx600rri don't know how you'd exactly do it, but the airspeed indicator should actually read the indicated airspeed of the plane like in a real plane. Using a gps is no good. It kinda needs to work off dynamic pressure like a real plane so you can actually control the speed of the plane regardless of what the wind is doing. This way you can land using the 'numbers' and know when to expect a stall and what speed to flare.

[@camomaster6316]

Throw the dji system in that beast!!

[@MotionRC]

We may have to. I am working on getting a setup in my camo T-33 to formation fly with Patrick soon. But that will be something I will have to do - James

[@camomaster6316]

@@MotionRC it's awesome! I'm yet to put one in an EDF but it works great in everything else. BTW love that you have a additional heli/drone field. If i took my fpv drone stuff to our AMA field the guys would chase me out instantly. Very frowned upon here. 🤷‍♂️. Great video!

[@Tcat421]

Man, I want to do that

[@pilotimodele4598]

👏👏👏...👌😉

[@MotionRC]

Thanks for watching

[@randolphsloan2263]

That is what I want in the F22 90 mm.

[@MotionRC]

Do it!

[@carnagefpv8256]

You guys should see my fpv inav 90mm 8s f22

[@MotionRC]

Would love to, and so would others, share the link!

[@edsonaraujorio-brasil6495]

Fantástico, sugiro por uma cobertura antireflexo preto sobre o painel.

[@AN-ce1nd]

Unbelievable

[@MotionRC]

Its fun for sure!

[@oneshot7609]

Hi James

[@MotionRC]

Hey Brentan!

[@domnuspike]

..and umm.. 🤔🤔 you have a runcam able to show voltage and time❔❓

[@oftenwrong.]

Money money money!!!

[@MotionRC]

Now I have the Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiases theme song in my head...

[@dorond6088]

Is Major Patrick Croasdale a C141 pilot in the air-force?

[@racerx600rr]

C-130

[@pontiacf]

Soo cool I probably get so airsick ...unfortunately

[@MotionRC]

Hahaha, It is better to be behind the wheel then a passenger for motion sickness purposes

[@MaxSupercars]

@@MotionRC Yeah... better to be a pilot than a passenger... 😃😃😃

[@gewizz2]

he sounds just like that drone review guy.

[@MotionRC]

Who and who?