Serious Sam Advance is Weird

[@LoveatFirstHike]

What always confused me, that for as many FPS games that were on the older and far less advanced GBA, there were next to 0 on the 3DS. I thought for sure we’d get a Doom 3D and Duke Nukem 3D… 3D. It was plenty powerful enough for games like Quake, Quake II, Hexen, Half Life etc that were all perfectly playable with limited controls.

[@turtle_soda]

ikr like on psp there's 50 or so racing games and like 20 ish fps then on ps vita there was like 10 racing games and 3 shooters. what up with that

[@ScriptCatz]

@@turtle_sodawell it probably has something to do with the small install base of the vita

[@wusstunes]

The 2000s market was very different. Even if you look at the GBA, most of the fps games came out in the first couple of years, before it became clear that the main audience for gba was not that into FPS games.

[@NeedlesSweetToothKaneTheClown]

Should've called it Serious Sam The Advanced Encounter

[@Dimon12321]

16:45 "taste of their own medicine" Netricsa is probably referring to the Canon gun. It's not difficult to find

[@FrameRater]

What I'm referring to there is the message on the bottom right: "GAMEPLAY HINT - See if you can find any hidden areas on this level".

[@rex23AB]

While I cannot find much about any "Temple of Herkat", there seems to have been an Egyptian god called "Heqet" and according to the wikipedia entry named "Qus" there is a "Temple of Haroeris and Heqet", though no images or so are provided and I can't seem to find much else about it. This is likely just me grasping at straws but I found in interesting to look into at least lmao.

[@henrynelson9301]

“I guess this is fine for the Game Boy Advance”

[@Emberson-9000]

Oh hey, Civvie.

[@KillThad]

@@Emberson-9000 ...Hi, Cancer Mouse.

[@MegaManNeo]

I find 3D games on the Advance always to be a very interesting topic. Driver 2 for instance is a game I would consider quite a good port. But it is really difficult to pull off something that actually feels good too and Serious Sam seems to be of no exception. Maybe a 2D version like the early Duke Nukem games would have been a better choice.

[@thewholecircus]

If you like 3d on GBA, v-rally 3 pushed the thing to it's limits technically and is actually really good

[@TheBoneHeadClan]

I always found it bothersome that some "preservationists" like Amdrew Borman/PtoPOnline, and Unseen64, don't actually release builds/dumps of the games they find. They very clearly have playable access at times, but never share it with the rest of the world. Their not preservationists as much as they are publicized collectors imo.

[@FrameRater]

I know what you mean, but I've followed the guy for some time and he USED to release stuff. Eventually he got in trouble for it and stopped. This is his actual profession, at The Strong National Museum of Play in New York. Considering he could lose his job for stuff like that, I can't really blame him.

[@TheBoneHeadClan]

@FrameRater I suppose in light of that it makes sense. I'd say use an alias or release it through a third party, but I'd understand if he'd considered even that not worth the risk. Still though, there's probably a way. And I kinda feel like it defeats the point for someone in a position like his to even make videos then, because then it's just a tease, and the build will never be publicly released because "his hands are tied".

[@pass_]

speaking of 3D GBA games, I recently discovered tony hawks downhill jam on GBA which used polygons and it looks like a snes super FX game, still pretty impressive though

[@GeekGamerGui]

It's really surprising to see certain titles released on GBA in 3D, when you think the machine was not designed to achieve such performance. Stuntman, Driv3r, SSX3...

[@postalplayingpyromain]

literally just got into your serious sam content a few days ago and saw the last upload was 2 months ago and i was like "he needs to come back its been 2 months" and than this drops right under my nose lol

[@radioreactivity3561]

17:30 Yeah, you're probably right. I got the same humming noise, picking up items when I did some corruptions for this game, it also just said "UNKNOWN" after picking them and nothing happened. Also, I a few times I got the music with instrumentation originally intended by the composer. There are bunch of interesting things I got while corrupting, but the game is super unstable, when doing that.

[@Danominator]

Pseudo-3D on the GBA is a really interesting subject to me. It's a shame they couldn't pull it off super well here, there's actually quite a few games that have. Great video Frame!

[@wonphi]

It was fun for serious sam fan back in the day, before smart phones and more advanced portable gaming hand helds.

[@shiki8437]

Glad to see you back!! saw your last vid comments so hope you doing well recently. just a quick question tho, is there a chance that you reupload the weapon analysis to sub channel? i thought it was a interesting short vid series so it kinda sad to see they gone.

[@FrameRater]

I should get around to that eventually.

[@SeriousSam691]

​@@FrameRater Now why were those Samalyze videos deleted? Is it the same as all the others, that you eventually became unsatisfied with them? If so, I'd like to respectfully ask why you feel the need to delete (or in the case of the SS3 PS3 video and probably a few others, trim down) every video you no longer like or are no longer proud of. You can remake old videos if you feel you can make them better, by all means, but I guarantee you a lot of your viewers, including me, would love to revisit the old ones sometimes. I know a lot of deleted videos get reuploaded to FRCHIVE, which is nice, but not all of them get that treatment (like the original Advance video, and the Samalyzes). Would keeping the old versions of these videos on this channel cause harm to it algorithm-wise? If you really wanted to "cut off access" to them, wouldn't it be easier to just unlist them and leave them in a playlist? I just want to know.

[@puranichu]

I searched about that Yusup Dalmaz guy once cause I was listening to Outrun music and saw it get claimed by the same dude, and most of his "albums" are titles from PC98 games. The rabbit hole kinda gets messed up once you search more about him as his FB page is filled with messed up stuff.

[@bouncingbluesoul5270]

Nothing really on his FB that is 'messed up' or what I'd call messed up.

[@rosiemcdamsel]

I once had an OutRun gameplay video get claimed by this guy. When I counterclaimed, I was surprised to see it actually got released, considering the guy starts acting really childish when the real creators of his stolen music come at him.

[@bouncingbluesoul5270]

There's not a lot of info on the development of this and NE. And we also don't know how Climax got the license to make SS games.

[@joeyparkhill8751]

Frame, The Screamin' Kamikazes have pitched to me a potential intro to your future Serious Sam videos the only way they know how: AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! FRAMERATER!!!!! *KA-BOOM!*

[@mariowario5945]

All I have to say is, this game has a banger title song.

[@slenderminion2229]

Here's another small thing to note about Advance: Each level actually has three different passwords associated with them. These correlate to the three difficulty settings. For example, Praetorian Fort has NORTHERN for Tourist difficulty, FILLY for Bring it On! and MIRROR for Serious!!! Depending on which one you use the game will load the appropriate difficulty for each level. The very first level also has passwords attached to it, even though there's really no point in using it since you can just start a new game.

[@WinXP_SP1]

this just feels like a slightly upgraded version of the PalmOS game.

[@Purplox]

Some day I hope Sam and Duke will be in a crossover game.

[@luparindes4081]

Like what 3d realms is doing between phantom fury and SIN yeah that would be sick

[@Savayone]

They did actually crossover... Into a MMO Diablo clone. Does that count?

[@luparindes4081]

@@Savayone its good they do other stuff yeah. But i feel they can do better then an mmo to be honest

[@YN-im5qn]

Umh... Sam is found dead in the Egypt level of Duke 3D World Tour...

[@luparindes4081]

@@YN-im5qn yeah but that is an easter egg not cannon or related to the story at all. Sam games use duke as an easter egg alot

[@ZenoPopo]

I still remember how you got telefragged in this game on stream years ago

[@FrameRater]

=D

[@jking4854]

Ahh, playing Serious Sam Advance and other handheld emulated games on my phone, good times. 17:43 Maybe if Rome was possibly meant to be first, then this was that enemy's introduction and they would "return" in Egypt? As for the TNE video, I will note people found the Bee enemy model.

[@RConTRSMC]

great documentary, this is true dedication also the SE1 remake seems interesting and i hope it gets finished someday taking not too long

[@cubescihist6737]

Wait, the SE1 remake?

[@keganmemestar4465]

I'm surprised that someone hasn't attempted to remake this game in gzdoom or similar game engines.

[@FrameRater]

Always wanted to start something like that myself but I'm not familiar with the tools.

[@keganmemestar4465]

@@FrameRater It would be surprisingly easy with some of the tools available today. Honestly, the hardest part would be getting clean rips of the in-game textures and sprites.

[@Dimon12321]

@@keganmemestar4465 You can use emulators to view the visual memory and, if not extract the sprites, at least, print-screen them and outline them in Gimp or Photoshop

[@grongy6122]

Yep, that Yusup guy sure is a pain in the аss. He copyright claimed so much music over the years, for many retroplatforms. Actually i saw him on telegram chat, texting using google translate it seems. He tried to claim that the music he stole is from some sharp x68000 game... while the original author was reading this lol. It seems to me he's just some mentally ill person who discovered a copyright claim function of smth. And because youtube and music streaming services don't care about some random music track written for zx spectrum like twenty years ago, he keeps getting away with it, making life harder for original composers and game reviewers

[@Dimon12321]

And YT doesn't feel like doing anything about it

[@mon0light]

those remasters are a cool idea, i wouldn't hesitate to play more of original serious Sam story and they would certainly make for a better experience than three gba version for example

[@SeriousSacor]

where Serious Sam DS

[@atlassarnosian555]

where Serious Sam Tiger Electronic

[@III-------------------Ill]

where is Serious Sam on the Palm OS

[@NaoPb]

Where in the world is Serious Sam

[@Fabricio37500]

Where's that Sam who's serious

[@cheeseydoodoo]

where serrus semen on atari 2600

[@mr.tie-rex9577]

My first exposure to first-person shooters is 007 Nightfire for the GBA.

[@almipopp5152]

Awesome video and great coverage. The bizarrely prevalent "toxic skin" (and equivalents) continues to fascinate me. I wonder if Serious Sam Advance can be beaten with zero kills

[@EarthboundX]

It does seem like an odd choice for the GBA. A FPS known for having massive amounts of enemies on screen all at once, on a system that can handle what looks like from this video, 6 to 8 max on screen at once?

[@ZacharyLamb-rc8qb]

8:39 Sam: “AAAAAAAAAAAAhhhh you’re self!”

[@ricln5464]

There's something so charming about your videos that i cant really describe man. Is a mix of being funny and relaxing

[@FrameRater]

Just as intended. =)

[@Isaacfess]

Great overview and presentation as always Frame! I remember emulating this as a kid and expecting the entire PC game to be on GBA, nope lol.

[@mahdichowdhury7001]

yes another serious sam video, hold on I thought you wasnt going to do serious sam anymore; that being said iam really happy; this is another great video. I know you said you will not talk about the siberan mayhem dlc and other people have done it but I am still hoping in the future you talk about it {they still have not updated the console versions to include the PC update}. Maybe when they release serious sam 5 or something lol. My first video i saw of you was taIking about that awful serious sam dlc and I really liked it. One thing I was thinking to perhaps talk about more obsure shooters such as blood; or maybe even a duke nukem 3d feature where you go though the game and mention key parts {not everything}

[@FrameRater]

I've loosely hinted at ending Serious Sam videos in the past but Sam fans know that this franchise is a curse that keeps hold of you forever.

[@MrOmegabrian]

Damn it Frame. Seeing a new video of yours coming up in my feed always puts a smile on my face. I really enjoy the topics you cover and your demeanor is just fun. Thanks.

[@AdahnFlorence]

Damn the title could've been "Serious Sam Advance is Seriously Weird."

[@thebluedoom]

Does anyone know where to find serious sam advance gold edition? I cant seem to find it anywhere

[@KappaCow]

Is that an internally stored rocket in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

[@ChaseMC215]

If your secrets are this hidden, then clearly there is a problem with the game's design.

[@genyakozlov1316]

Many Doom secrets are no better, SS Advance just has a problem with lacking a secret counter of any kind.

[@migueldias8546]

With many things in our society, when there is a market, companies appear out of nowhere! For music strike, this is a classic! Those companies exist because they do a job that would be painfull to do for each artist, but by doing it, they are making money, taking a cut, and everyone is happy... But because it is human made, errors are made, and because it is automatic, errors are amplified (if no one is paid, there is no cut to be taken).

[@FrameRater]

Is this a bot because it's strangely off-topic. If you're relating to the Yusup music claiming thing, dude's just straight up stealing.

[@migueldias8546]

@@FrameRater It is about making money, not being fair...

[@FrameRater]

So you wouldn't mind if I took your work and monetized it? And if it got popular and made me loads of money, you wouldn't be upset? You wouldn't want any of that revenue?

[@migueldias8546]

@@FrameRater I am agreeing with you (we are on the same side) but there is a general misconception that the artists or KZbin are striking videos right and left. There was a legit problem (people should benefit from their creation) but all I am saying is the job is done by companies that do it because there is money to be made. Most of the requests (probably way above 95%) are not the artist asking for it, it is the companies doing it by themselves, and saying: “this KZbinr used your song, so we are getting the revenue from this video on your behalf, and here is the cut”. This is why it is so cold and why there are so many problems…

[@FrameRater]

Oh alright, sorry for the misunderstanding then.

[@MorbiusTheMenace]

Still need to finish the VR games. Didn't even realise they had a gba game for it :o

[@AstralPhnx]

Wow old intro suddenly. That was a bit of whiplash

[@SilveryFJ]

Even other music from other games was stolen by Yusup Dalmaz like some Special Stage theme that was actually composed by Yuzo Koshiro for instance. From the "album" that had that stolen song, the music is more or less an NES-style rendition, not PC88/PC98 which USES Yamaha-branded FM sound chip. It's like Yusup Dalmaz can't understand the proper definition of a music style. Oh, that Yusup Dalmaz still throws a fit to this day when he sees the latest soundtrack announcement that is made by Very OK Vinyl. Lastly, those who do music-related derivative works like making arrangements/remixes for instance ALWAYS give composers of the original songs the credit in a proper way.

[@Chihiro_Fujisaki]

Very interesting stuff! Hope you’re having a good day, Frame!

[@jojotoofor9eight766]

Didn't you do a Serious Sam GBA video already??

[@FrameRater]

It sucked lol

[@Fabricio37500]

​@@FrameRaternah man, it was fine! I remember being so sad when I was wanting to rewatch it just to find out it had been deleted... Thankful for this one now 😅

[@joeyparkhill8751]

​@@Fabricio37500 as Homestar Runner said, it was "BA-LEETED!"

[@Dimon12321]

@@Fabricio37500 I was willing to rewatch it too. But at least, this new video is great too

[@lymb3914]

I don't think I'll ever have the patience for it, so I'm glad to get insight into this game. Always loved Serious Sam, though, at its core, it's just about blasting enemies. Shame the GBA port was more wonky than fun.

[@Macedonski51]

Serious Sam Advance video ? Now that's a Serious Fact. ;))))

[@smashmaster12]

NEW FRATER YEAAAAAAH Great video!!! I love these deep dives into weird GBA games

[@JomasterTheSecond]

Oh hey, the old intro's back; that's unexpected.

[@psyOPNA]

Is it possible to emulate the game in higher resolution?

[@FrameRater]

Sure, that's what I did here.

[@psyOPNA]

@@FrameRater Well that's unfortunate then lol I thought something more would be possible.. like what duckstation does with upscaling

[@zekromfan1]

So we got Serious Sam GBA before Serious Sam 2, I see how it is. Jokes aside, this is a very interesting case of a port. Considering the hardware one would assume it would work perfectly fine, but nope. Isn’t it funny that the Palm OS version is overall a better product than the one released on the much more popular piece of hardware? And correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the GBA a more powerful system when compared to the Palm OS? I can’t help but wonder what happened behind the scenes with both of them to cause such a massive gap of quality between them.

[@ZeroTheHunter]

Oh it was matt simmons! I loved his work from the game spongebob super sponge!

[@Sharpedo43]

I wouldn't call the Yusup Dalmaz case "trivial", because it's actually quite a serious problem (no pun intended). The guy is literally stealing obscure music and uploading them to KZbin's copyright database so that it identifies as his material, when it clearly isn't. It's also a problem because this can effectively discourage anyone from uploading a run for Serious Sam Advance, unless you want to let Dalmaz monetize your video for revenue that should really go to Matt Simmonds. I had to remove my own non-commentary playthrough for the game myself, because the music plays loud and clearly enough for the copyright system to deem it non-transformative. And while I'm not getting any copyright strikes for the video as it is, I just refuse to allow a thief to make money off of my video for works that don't belong to him. In fact, I find it incredibly obnoxious that his antics haven't been exposed enough for him to have some form of consequence. Instead, the guy's just chilling while claiming whatever he can get his hands on. And strangely enough, the guy even has an Official Artist icon on KZbin? With only 200+ subscribers? Isn't that suspicious? I thought you could only get that the same way you get the Verified checkmark, by having over 10K subscribers or something around those lines. Either way, there needs to be a way to report this guy. 😑 Also great, now that you mentioned Sailor Moon in a Serious Sam video, now I can't unsee Usagi wielding a minigun. 🤣 Anyway, nice video. It's always nice to see someone have a soft spot for this game. 😌

[@eternalsword1999]

Ah, the follow up to one of your most interesting videos dude, enough so I bought myself a boxed copy a few months later to go with my birthday gift at the time, an emerald green GBA SP.

[@FrameRater]

Which video are you referring to?

[@eternalsword1999]

@@FrameRater your original Serious Sam Advance video, where you mentioned the pink GBA you owned as a kid.

[@FrameRater]

Ah yeah, that video was all over the place. I incorporated the best parts of it into this one so hopefully people aren't upset that the old one's gone. I don't understand why people liked it so much honestly. Just a bunch of nonsensical ramblings.

[@eternalsword1999]

Ah yeah, fair enough, I mean I personally thought it was pretty good, and I learned a lot about it's history, hell the OST from Matt Simmonds uncompressed sounds mint, I definitely think it's a decent game overall, kinda impressive for Climax Studios to even get it running on the GBA regardless of it's performance issues among other things.

[@AfterBurnerTeirusu]

I kinda like this one. It’s okay for the platform, but could be a lot better.

[@G.Freeman92]

Also my first SS ever.

[@iceboy5254]

This was my introduction to serious sam really

[@teh_supar_hackr]

Even more weird is Serious Sam for PDA handhelds

[@bunnybreaker]

I don't know if it's just rose tinted nostalgia glasses, but I first played Doom on SNES and this still looks painful to watch/play. Nice video though 👍🏽

[@TrollDecker]

Uh... link the fan projects, maybe?

[@FrameRater]

Neither projects have released yet.

[@YN-im5qn]

You found a mini secret. drive.google.com/file/d/1G9E0N_qGkSLNJyLL7Tk-Q5OewUV7hwWg/view?usp=sharing

[@StockpileThomas1]

I played through Duke Nukem GBA. It's good. Serious Sam not so much

[@mortenera2294]

I really wish we got Serious Sam games on the DS and PSP too, just because lol

[@thebrodator]

Would you rather play this or Serious Sam 4?

[@FrameRater]

I would rather play this for its charms, but Serious Sam 4 is overall a much better game.

[@isuki_777]

Serious sam 2 remake when?

[@rainbowspace994]

I was watching a FrameRater video rn lol

[@MrVariant]

5:55 fat girl shooter 😂 damn. Also reminds me of those fat zombie enemies in games. Guess it's a rule of funny

[@FrameRater]

What lol. Do you mean the Methug Soldiers? I guess they appear to have long hair on first glance but I believe those are tubes.

[@MrVariant]

@@FrameRater lol I thought they were boobs and a bra 🤣 thanks for clarifying. Just hilarious either way

[@kingnyandam2506]

I know you probobly wont read this comment, but you should do lets plays of serious sam custom maps on one of your different channels, would love to watch them

[@FrameRater]

I've thought about it, maybe when I have more free time to spare.

[@elieeee6]

Hey dude what happened you kind of went off the grid for a little bit

[@FrameRater]

Same as when I made the Sam 4 feature, took two months off. I spent the time attending to a lot of IRL responsibilities I've put off, like buying a car for one example.

[@SamikazeAtk]

I am a big fan of this one because it's funny

[@orchid9]

Yeah, FrameRater!

[@Vulpas]

Not a fan of this series, barely even like the genre at all. It's interesting to see it on GBA though, given the technical constraints and especially the limited controls.

[@Хорошийигровойканал]

Yeah framerater

[@luparindes4081]

If only croteam gave us official xbox sam version on pc the world would be a better place

[@captaintitus7711]

They should release it under the name "Comic Serious Sam".And put a bunch more differences than main game.That would be better.

[@Zippy_Zolton]

1 day after my birthday :D

[@Menace_Gaming_]

oh yeah

[@TreesPlease42]

Good good

[@mrbungle3310]

144p at its finest

[@absalomvera-qg1sv]

mmmm no is the best serios sam but

[@jesuschrist2449]

n,

[@frunk5623]

Amazing!

[@TieDyeShyGuy]

Protip - don't put a blue border on your videos. It made me not watch or subscribe.

[@FrameRater]

No harm if it deters contentious subscribers, lol.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

Lol what did the color blue do to you?

[@mrpiccionedivino5598]

​@@AnAverageGoblin it's a joke about the fact that previously the thumbnail had red borders making people think it was a video they're already seen