I'd like to see it, but it looks utterly ridiculous. He has a great imagination, but so many of his ideas are just silly. I prefer Holy Mountain and Sante Sangre to El Topo, but he's a long way from those days.
@DylanPank718 ай бұрын
It would have been bad. It would have been Zardoz/Final Programme/Starcrash bad.
@Unus1Mundus7 ай бұрын
Yes, it would have been a classic.
@hannibalburgers4776 ай бұрын
I just watched the documentary. It is basically an unimaginative persons imagination supported by actually talented people. It is absurdist for the sake of absurdist. He thinks he is "le-smart" and has a strong message, but never understood the ACTUALLY INTELLIGENT message of the book because HE NEVER READ IT. TO QUOTE HIMSELF "HE (r worded) FRANK HERBERT" why do you ask? To make his story "actually good", of course. T'ed his own son too.
@FrameVoyager6 ай бұрын
@@hannibalburgers477 yep! This script we made changed very quickly after a lot of research into the director. Just a lot of posturing and making everything some holy mission. No thanks 😅
@Ghost-27X6 ай бұрын
Imagine this guy playing the Emperor instead of Christopher Walken🤯
@m1000-n8w6 ай бұрын
He *barely* speaks English
@Ghost-27X6 ай бұрын
@@m1000-n8w Yea..🤯 but he's legitimately crazy😂
@kaneda73686 ай бұрын
@@m1000-n8w That doesn't matter lol. You give a guy who barely speaks english a script made by someone who does and you'll just have an accent to it. Which, in a story that takes place across the galaxy, an accent is not totally unimaginable.
@m1000-n8w6 ай бұрын
@@kaneda7368 A heavy, heavy Chilean accent would definitely pull people out of the story. Im sorry to tell you.
@jsm.2166 ай бұрын
@@m1000-n8w Christopher Walken already took me out of the film with his voice, one of the lesser casting choices of the villeneuve films
@toedrag-release7 ай бұрын
As a dune fan...im super glad it never got made. It was a literal pipe dream. Sounded utter ridiculous, it wasnt "Dune" it was a director tripping balls on LSD in the 70s being inspired by dune to try to capture his hallucinations.
@jonrahproductions6 ай бұрын
After watching the full length documentary about the film he would have made, we lost big and I really really wish it was made.
@johnmichinock7526 ай бұрын
@@jonrahproductionsIncorrect. This wasn’t Dune. This was some pretentious douchebag thinking he’s better than everyone else, tripping balls on all kinds of drugs. Jodorowsky isn’t the talent, the artists were.
@m1000-n8w6 ай бұрын
I think you're very boring. It would've been an interesting and surreal adaptation. An adaptation doesn't have to be 1:1, to be good. Have a look at Blade Runner, and the book it was originally based off. Very different, but still a great movie
@o-wolf6 ай бұрын
As a cinema fan it would've been an interesting car crash and certainly a better prospect than what David lynch cooked up Would it be on any way faithful to dune? Who knows probably not, but it'd be a complete trip and spectacle and that's always worth your time even if from only a curiosity aspect
@a.t.c.38626 ай бұрын
Well said. It would have nothing more than insufferable, pretentious kack - like the rest of his work.
@metal69488 ай бұрын
Just saying, a 14-hour "movie" can be cut into a 14-episode streaming series
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
Today for sure! Maybe not back in the 1970's. Kubrick had a similar issue with his "Napoleon" film
@shefalichow79176 ай бұрын
I would've been down with a day long showing, split in four with some breaks to get up and walk around.
@poppers73176 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager there was also a 5 hour mini series for "Das Boot" in 1981 which expanded the movie.
@neo-filthyfrank13476 ай бұрын
cringe, that would've ruined it completely. It needs to be one, a single whole, to be watched in a single sitting, the mainstream be damned
@metal69486 ай бұрын
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 Most sane people can't watch something 14 hours long no break.
@mrcrapucinno6 ай бұрын
i’ve seen the documentary and read the studio book for Jodorowsky’s Dune and honestly, in my opinion, it would’ve been such a bad film; the ideas it incorporated worked well on its own but to have called it a “dune” movie would’ve been an affront
@bobsbigboy_6 ай бұрын
Okay NPC
@mrcrapucinno6 ай бұрын
@@bobsbigboy_ 👍
@neo-filthyfrank13476 ай бұрын
all arguments against jodorowsky's dune are second hand justifications for being inherently dull and dim
@DanielLopez-ob9jz6 ай бұрын
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 No... Jodorowsky misunderstood Dune, he was not making the movie to make a Dune movie, he was making a movie to fuel his cool ideas, not the book's. While I believe it'd be a good movie, it just wouldn't be Dune and I'd rather it not be called that.
@xFuzzyxPicklesx6 ай бұрын
@@bobsbigboy_ same opinion copy and pasted. i wonder what youtube video / tweet they saw for that opinion
@onstr5 ай бұрын
Holy Mountain changed my perspective on what movies could be when I saw it as a kid. Seeing him interpret Dune would have really been... something. I think even as a "bad film" it would have at least been worth watching.
@WTFisTingispingis6 ай бұрын
It's pretty obvious that H.R. Giger's influence was blatant with the Dune movies we DID GET, at least with the Denis Villeneuve movie. Geidi Prime looks like a planet Giger would design.
@Dularr3 ай бұрын
Funny they claim Geidi Prime was based on septic tanks.
@larkstonguesinaspic4814Ай бұрын
it's much more cleaner and less detailed but yes it is pretty close in terms of how disturbing and dark it is
@zukacs8 ай бұрын
There is a really cool full lenght documentary about this story, fun watch before the Dune2 comes out
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
Yeah! Great documentary, though we do push back a bit on how they portray Jordorowsky and the impact the film actually had.
@huliniswhoiam6 ай бұрын
What's the name of the doc? And where can we watch it?
@FrameVoyager6 ай бұрын
@@huliniswhoiam you can watch it on Amazon prime I think
@huliniswhoiam6 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager and what's it called?
@FrameVoyager6 ай бұрын
@@huliniswhoiam Jodorowsky's dune lol
@Lxx00Jxx006 ай бұрын
When considering who'd be the artist to the Final Fantasy franchise, Square originally wanted Möbius instead of Yoshitaka Amano. I never imagined how would that be until the 11:53 illustration on this video.
@willmfrank6 ай бұрын
Frank Herbert: "Jodorowsky's script would have been ten hours or more..." George. R. R. Martin: "Umm..."
@rachel_rexxx8 ай бұрын
This was interesting, I vote for more lost Hollywood films
@DerekSaysTink4 ай бұрын
The Holy Mountain and every Jodo work changes you. Pure art.
@HeribertoEstolano8 ай бұрын
I've known a lot of small country town artist that make terrible art and tough themselves great genius that the world wasn't ready to understand yet. And they all sounded exactly like Jodorowski on that Documentary.
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
Could be my cynicism, but yeah that kind of stuff immediately makes me think it's all bs and just for show. To me it's just a way to make your art look more self important than it really is. Which with Jodorowsky, from all of our research every story had to be this massive ordeal or some holy mission, which half of it you couldn't tell if it was truth, hyperbole, or just an act.
@AGamingEntity5 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyagerdude you went into his career wrong, if you had discovered The Holy Mountain on its own you'd realise this guy's a genius
@CNC-Time-Lapse8 ай бұрын
Great video. Also, I love your random transition into the Squarespace ad. I feel that was is a plausible scenario. lol
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
I legit had no better ideas for it haha. Felt just as likely Pink Floyd did that as Jodorowsky talking to diving beings
@EVIL90006 ай бұрын
It's pronounced fremen, not freemen
@GonadTheBarbarian6666 ай бұрын
Rhymes with semen?
@anthonythorne87088 ай бұрын
Whether or not Jodorowsky's film was faithful to the book or not, his planned film would have been of interest. His earlier works certainly were, and his subsequent graphic novels have been as well.
@rameshdevasi67208 ай бұрын
spiritual wisdom of jodorowsky is beyond even the original dune, hope his official film remake of incal comic complete before he died. most hardworking creator ever, his book "The Spiritual Journey of Alejandro Jodorowsky" is my favorite
@rameshdevasi67208 ай бұрын
just found out that Alejandro Jodorowsky, 94, Working on A New Film!, look at the dedication.
@paulhunter67425 ай бұрын
Who in their right mind would sit through a 14 hours movie? The longest ever event l had seen was 8 hours stage production of Nicholas Nikoby at University of Kansas in 1980s. And that required two days since split into two parts.
@milton14486 ай бұрын
Dune needs a 14 hour high budget series treatment. These move just leave too much content out
@troubadour7237 ай бұрын
There are basically three types of sci-fi/fantasy: 1) Fandom -- utilitarian, reactionary, RPG-based, militaristic. 2) Grounded -- basically a gentrification of the genre. Made for critics and award committees. 3) Visionary, surreal, unfettered, psychedelic -- Jodorowsky, Metal Hurlant, lots of 70s sci-fi. Niche, sadly dormant, but with lots of terrain left unexplored before receding in the blockbuster era. A more open-minded public would embrace or at least support ideas like Jodorowsky's. But the general public has been successfully conditioned to embrace monetary-based spectacle over art. Exploratory artists are perpetually out of favor. It's hard to light a spark in a vacuum.
@newworldman21126 ай бұрын
Crap is still crap even if it scratches that anti-middle class pretensious itch.
@johnernest58435 ай бұрын
Have you considered that maybe some of that stuff from category might be a bit shit to a lot of people?
@Matthias1296 ай бұрын
Saying you have to assault your wife to have a child but than being upset that a foreign country assaults* yours for resources is pretty contradictory. I'm sure there's more to the man, though it's a very rough first impression. *I'm using the dictionary definition of the word Jodororsky used here, that I can't use because of YT's well-intentioned, but messy, policies.
@hrr5976 ай бұрын
🤓🤓
@Matthias1296 ай бұрын
@@hrr597 Sorry I didn't make a tiktok for you to understand. Or would a crayon drawing be more your speed? I made sure to get you flavored ones. 😊
@amdi89666 ай бұрын
@@Matthias129just shut up, dork 😂
@gerardleveque35685 ай бұрын
The teem of artistes that Jodorowski put together for Dune, is what made the success of Aliens!
@hvitekristesdod6 ай бұрын
Denis managed to make it psychedelic without overdoing it IMO
@swaslaukinonome6 ай бұрын
Slight disagreement: Dali was mostly an actor. Also a Fascist and a chauvinist.
@davehandelman28328 ай бұрын
The greatest movie never made. Someone needs to make an animated version of this word for word. Like NOW.
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
Like the spice DAO crypto bros? 😂😂😂
@Calypso6946 ай бұрын
I honestly really hope we get his dune someday. Yes yes we have his Jodoverse comics that are basically his Dune repurposed but it’s not “dune” ya know? It would have been a total trip sure but an insane fun one no doubt that I think fans are too hard on.
@SuzanneYoungblood-lj3eb8 ай бұрын
Absurd!!!!!!!! 14 hours sounds like a good start, why not double that!
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
It's not the 14 hours that's absurd 😉
@SuzanneYoungblood-lj3eb8 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager LoL
@theconcreteshamans6 ай бұрын
Cant wait to put all this information into AI and finally get to see the 14 hour movie
@huliniswhoiam6 ай бұрын
Are you going to pay the creator to use that's the whole argument with AI and why people are upset
@AGamingEntity5 ай бұрын
It won't be his though it'll be what pretentious teenagers think his idea would have been
@SK4M_Freal8 ай бұрын
So is this a documentary about the documentary about Jodorowsky's mental attempt at Dune in the 70's? Cool, ill settle in coz he had some ludacris but quite clever ideas. I love Dune so id have took a 14hr long movie.🤯
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
It's sort of side by side with it but we don't cover Jodorowsky with as rosy a lens towards the end as the documentary did. So we have similar info, even some clips from the doc , but a very different outlook on the whole thing
@Ale-mv3gr6 ай бұрын
I love Jodo so much.
@davida.rosales60254 ай бұрын
Absurd? Only a 14-hour movie would make it worth it.
@FrameVoyager4 ай бұрын
It's not absurd because it's 14 hours
@ThePatrikable5 ай бұрын
Since the current two version 5 hour total mess is still uncrophendial for anyone new to the universe it couldve been a great idea.
@payasita016 ай бұрын
it could have been one of the movies of all time
@johnernest58435 ай бұрын
"Oh hi Baron"
@sirfrancois88886 ай бұрын
I'm a huge fan of Alejandro and my one wish is that someone gives him an unlimited budget for one last epic project to make a film version of incal.. how amazing would that be?
@Kaden106 ай бұрын
This movie would've been f***ing bonkers, Jodorowsky is a mad man but the best kind of mad.
@Themagiciangr8 ай бұрын
Is there any way to read the copy jodorowsky sell because i heard before that they were similar to fake script but i havent found any source
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
Well they were and then he released one himself that was the same thing essentially. I have that somewhere in our notes but I had to use the waback machine to view it. There is a lot floating around out there though
@LongreyBowling29 күн бұрын
Am I the only one seeing Thunder Cats in some of the concept sketches?
@ReneAlex7 ай бұрын
I don't know, but my bet is that a Dune movie directed or produced by this guy could easily be "The Room" of science fiction.
@Buf0376 ай бұрын
This man has clearly never seen holy mountain. You can call jodorowsky crazy all you like, he’s clearly very a very talented director if you’ve seen any of his work. Especially good at making things visually appealing, and with an amazing plot already written for him? I don’t see how it could be anywhere near the room.
@ReneAlex6 ай бұрын
@@Buf037 yeah the amazing plot in the book that he explicitly did not wanted to read... I mean, in LATAM there is this ilk, this stereotype of wise guy, con man, that is infamously inexplicably talented, mythical in their abilities but they never get their master pieces done, because some evil force, company, government, money man, family, tragedy or any other long list of excuses keep them to finish their "work" they live out of their mythology and usually have a cult following... I'm not saying that He is one of those... But he has that ring to it, he even have the sexual misconduct allegations and all. Idk, everyone is free to appreciate the work and ignore the man I suppose.
@Buf0376 ай бұрын
Having never read his script for dune im not sure what he meant when he said he was raping frank herbert. Was he going to majorly change the plot? or just make things visually interesting in a way that frank herbert definitely did not envision? I actually don't know, he said he loved the book so i would assume he wouldn't change too much about the plot. He may be one of those con men, but it doesn't change the fact that he made many great and influential films. That is my point, he is no tommy wiseau, you can criticize his character all you want, but his work is good.
@ReneAlex6 ай бұрын
@@Buf037Well, conveniently we will never know what that movie would be like, because Jodorowsky's Dune will never be; and that will make that non-existing movie a legend a myth, an infinitely potential achievement for him and his fans forever. Again, ppl are free to appreciate the work and ignore the man. At least The Room was made.
@johnernest58435 ай бұрын
@@ReneAlex Lynch's Dune will always triumph over Jodorowsky's Dune because at least it got made
@sylnz977 ай бұрын
I'm glad we didn't get his Dune and instead got Alien out of all this, it's a win win situation
@vincemays75996 ай бұрын
This man is a walking contradiction lmao. He wanted to evolve dune into his own vision but refused to rename it into his own project and vision. He’s a tripping plagiarist who can’t even plagiarize properly because, well, he’s tripping balls
@johnernest58435 ай бұрын
It's the ego Bro assembled his own charismatic following by perverting the concept of the Dune story, while also living out Herbert's warning of not trusting these types of charismatic farts
@Ssspaceform8 ай бұрын
Why absurd? Isn’t something like LOTR a bit under that? And this would have been waaay better.
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
For the runtime of LOTR or LOTR being absurd in of itself?
@igguilloda43833 ай бұрын
just saying "chilean by birth" so casually comes off as rather dismissive of Jodorowski"s chileaness. As he demonstrated in his two most recent movies, being chilean was formative and is more than an accident of history for Jodorowski. but like many talented people from small countries, he went to seek his fortunes elsewhere.
@junyawannabe7 ай бұрын
you would kill to be one day in jodorowskys mind. don’t disrespect the man
@FrameVoyager7 ай бұрын
I in fact would not like to EVER be in his mind. No thanks. No disrespect given above what he has publicly declared himself.
@theconcreteshamans6 ай бұрын
These kids today don't know how esteemed we held artists back then. We wanted weird and shocking. And controversial. It was something to aspire to.
@FrameVoyager6 ай бұрын
@@theconcreteshamans Good for you. Not someone worth apsiring to in this case. H.R. Giger? Yes “Moebius”? Yes Dan O'bannon? Sure But Jodorowsky isn't someone worth aspiring to be. His public comments and publicity stunts in the past and present to make his art appear more "important" are not worth emulating. If that's the "shocking" us kids just don't understand anymore, you guys can keep it.
@hrr5976 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager 🤓🤓
@johnernest58435 ай бұрын
Bro why is every Jodorowsky defender such a dicksucker? He selling you drugs from beyond the grave or something?
@roc78806 ай бұрын
I wish seen the movie even if unfinished.
@hdgehog66 ай бұрын
Jodorowsky's DUNE would have been a shit-show! He said it himself - that he didn't give a fuck about Herbert or the story.
@amdi89666 ай бұрын
That doesn’t mean it would’ve been bad. I mean, bookworms like y’all would’ve shit yourselves but nobody cares 🤷🏻♂️
@robertmiles1603Ай бұрын
id like to see it but i wouldnt want it to be 14 hours. u could probably flesh the whole idea out with no more than 3 tops
@empyrean-jamelgreaves80346 ай бұрын
All I hear is we could've gotten an unprecedented film in scope and scale and instead got the cramfest of Lynches Dune..... man that is SAD
@EliasValadez-pu1iqАй бұрын
3:29 That’s… an opinion
@kamandi13626 ай бұрын
Shame the three hour version wasn’t made. I’d have loved to have seen Giraud’, Foss’, and Giger’s designs brought to life with Pink Floyd’s music. I also wouldn’t have minded it if Jodorovsky hadn’t directed it. There’s definitely something of the dark about him. Note how he throws up certain gang signs in the photos in this video.
@FrameVoyager6 ай бұрын
I think studios wanted to make it in some sense, but from what it seems like I think they were all very wary of working with Jodorowsky. You can't really blame them
@snakes34254 ай бұрын
LSD is one hell of a drug
@opensourceradionics6 ай бұрын
why do you hype a not-made movie so much?
@FrameVoyager6 ай бұрын
Lmao, I didn't hype the movie up, jodorowsky hypes this movie up 😂 we're probably one of the few to question this film
@quadmaxx4829Ай бұрын
jodorosky is a total badass
@Real_Boye6 ай бұрын
Lmao mediocre dudes always downplaying great artists
@adrianr878 ай бұрын
It's pronounced Yodoroski. 😊
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
You know, I tried to do some digging into it and everyone pronounced his name different lol. I went with the one that sounded more Chilean to my English speaking self 😅
@adrianr877 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager after I wrote it I realized you very likely spent plenty of time researching just the pronunciation lol
@thevis54656 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager It is a polish name, not a chilean one.
@DavidRivera-p1h4 ай бұрын
wtf Alejandro....
@nicolasdragas8 ай бұрын
did you read The Seven Lives of Alejandro Jodorowsky for this?
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
Parts of it. Watch like over 70 interviews with Jordorowsky over the years as well. Ended up re-writing the script several time the more research we did on him.
@nicolasdragas8 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager I have a lot of his books and have seen him you did a great research
@katherinealvarez92168 ай бұрын
I wonder if they'll get to God Emperor of Dune
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
In the new ones? Sounds like he's only going one more book or movie after this next one
@katherinealvarez92168 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager I think the director said that they want to do a movie on the Benne Gesserits.
@shreddurst53976 ай бұрын
Max is doing a Bene Gesserit show called Dune: Prophecy. Iirc Villeneuve said he would like to do a movie for Messiah but not go past that.
@benpowell4733Ай бұрын
I belive that walking dead and the other side crap would come out to 48hrs
@olliski28026 ай бұрын
Jodorowsky seems like an occultist weirdo.
@AaronLitz6 ай бұрын
It would have been a _horrible_ adaptation of _Dune._ Jodorowsky loves to do weird stuff just for the sake of being weird. And since far more people watch movies than read novels, that bizarre "adaptation" would have supplanted and buried the novel in the popular consciousness, basically ruining _Dune_ for pop culture. Even as a result of Lynch's _Dune_ how many people think that Paul Atriedes actually gained the supernatural power to make it rain on Arrakis at the end of the story, and believe that Paul actually _was_ the Chosen One savior of the Fremen, instead of the intentions of the novel as a _warning against_ charismatic leaders like Paul?
@mordreddelavirac6 ай бұрын
It just occurred to me, Jodo could use AI to make his movie in a couple of years.
@NintendoConsoleGamer6 ай бұрын
Everyone swears this movie wouldve been the second coming of jesus, but after watching the documentary about it I'm incredibly glad this pervert's work never saw the light of day.
@alessandrobaggi61296 ай бұрын
The th7mbnail would be more classy and less clickbaity if you used some illustration based on the books. Yes, i'm an "old man yelling at cloud" and i don't like this newer Dune version...
@donmagulon6 ай бұрын
Yeah so after reading this comment section I come to a conclusion that you guys really rather have nothing than something. Its not like you pay for it in any way.
@oliverstianhugaas74936 ай бұрын
Absurd boomer movie, glad it was never made as it would just be another drunken disaster from the 1960's - 1970's.
@currentofthesnake84866 ай бұрын
Even if this project had been created in their gigantism, it would be nothing more than a Holy Mountain on LSD. Or Holy Mountain Part 2. And in the end a product of its time. Just like all of Jodorowsky's films are a product of their time. And the adaptation would have ignored the crucial point, namely the criticism of the charismatic leader. That's why the film would be completely out of date for today.
@user-qh5nm7di2r6 ай бұрын
All this inspiration, but we got the dustbin soulless drag of Villaneuve ruining yet another franchise. We truly are in the end times. I hate what they gave us, what they keep giving us. It's a living hell.
@tomebasic28436 ай бұрын
What a load of nonsense. Villaneuve's Dune is awe-aspiring
@user-qh5nm7di2r6 ай бұрын
@@tomebasic2843 It's all the easiest tricks with none of the charisma or substance. It's a hotair balloon of bullturd, dusted with glitter and SAND. Enjoy your celebs.
@amdi89666 ай бұрын
Old man with shitty taste 🤷🏻♂️
@johnernest58435 ай бұрын
Man if that adaptation is enough to ruin your outlook for the future then I don't know how you wake up every morning
@user-qh5nm7di2r5 ай бұрын
@@johnernest5843 It's a showcase for popular faces and imposed attitudes. There's zero charisma on screen, no humanity. Ever take a look at the concept art for a number of sci-fi/fantasy movies? It's like they just lifted it straight from a portfolio of that junk. "Technically good" but totally lacking in its own juju. Hallmark card flick. And anything unique in Villaneuve's was just lifted from Lynch's. It's a joke.
@Vicenteprz6 ай бұрын
i wish one day AI could bring life to this project
@winstonschwarz16366 ай бұрын
I'm like super unglad that this film was not completed because the new Dunes are like rilly long perfume commercials stuffed with silly globalist messaging. The Lynch Dune is however a work of art compared to those awful films. Just like music, film was quantifiably better in the Seventies. Corporate Hollywood has indeed raped the source material. And, Herbert was a right-wing author and the themes in the original book are at best right-wing and at worst fascist. Eff all to do with a counterculture.
@amdi89666 ай бұрын
Oh shut up 😂
@johnernest58435 ай бұрын
I swear you weird contrarians all follow the same deranged script of new = bad!!! , old = good!!! Whatever you say, buddy. The world will keep turning.
@jayr81346 ай бұрын
I'm glad this guy didn't get to make it, he sounds really phony & he makes pretentious garbage like a lot of the auteur European directors. This is the guy that made the trash 'The Holy Mountain'
@darwincity6 ай бұрын
Michel Seydoux, whose career would then drift towards sport team management, being the great uncle of Lea Seydoux, who plays Lady Margot in Dune Part Two.
@greenman61416 ай бұрын
Nepotism lives !
@endergade31836 ай бұрын
I watched the documentary on his Dune and at first I thought, ‘what a creative mind’. But the more I watched it, the more I was disturbed by his behaviour.
@FrameVoyager6 ай бұрын
That exactly was my process while making this video haha
@RoachDaDoggJr5 ай бұрын
weak
@clifb.35215 ай бұрын
i agree, on the surface its a fascinating idea, the deeper you dig the more his "madness or passion" is less interesting
@NithinJune6 ай бұрын
2:35 listening to him speak french with a spanish accent is throwing me off 😅
@zelo32386 ай бұрын
ah yes, a movie that thousands of people would want to watch, but only 8 would actually end up watching.
@neo-filthyfrank13476 ай бұрын
that's why it would've been the best film ever made
@tivrobobo6 ай бұрын
I’m the one of those eight 😂
@chiwhiner6 ай бұрын
Kind of like that Terry Gilliam Don Quijote movie that finally saw the light of day. Far more people probably saw the documentary about it.
@spaceriot236 ай бұрын
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 stop glazing bro
@CC______8 ай бұрын
I don’t see how you can say it was solely the work of the artists. It was Jodorowsky’s vision that brought it all together.
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
It's not that he didn't have a part to play, but the affecting part of this all seems to be around the artwork. Which he did well in getting talented artists, but my premise was the Dune film itself didn't inspire sci-fi it was the artists from this project that were extremely talented and went on to make movies in science fiction namely "Star Wars, Alien, The Terminator, Flash Gordon and Raiders of the Lost Ark" that they mention among others. I just find this a bit absurd and see it as a usual tactic of his throughout his career of adding importance to his projects, that while may have been great, were not these industry changing spiritual revelations that he makes them all out to be. That's all. Nothing against this version of Dune, I just think he over embellishes a lot and we showed that throughout the video.
@seanhewitt6036 ай бұрын
Huff glue much?, Frank Herberts' work was poddys?
@gaiusflaminius48616 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager 1. "but my premise was the Dune film itself didn't inspire sci-fi it was the artists from this project that were extremely talented and..." - it was Jodorowsky who assembled these talents, and based on the revelations of these talents you cite yourself, he created a highly inspirational atmosphere that induced all kinds of creative ideas. You're treating this part mechanically, separating Jodorowsky from his team as if people are wooden figures endowed with certain qualities that show under any circumstances. They don't. I have experiensed that myself. The role of a spiritual figure, a mentor, a father, a sage, a maharishi and so on has been the perpetual topic throughout the perceived history of humankind. Your premise is shaky. 2. "I just find this a bit absurd and see it as a usual tactic of his throughout his career of adding importance to his projects" - It's not as much him supposedly adding importance to his projects as other people views of those. However, it has nothing to do with importance. It's about attitude, a subjective matter in itself. His brutally eccentric manner and obsession, sweeping away obstacles with little willingness to compromise, sent ripples in the water. I am neither for nor against that. I remain indifferent to one’s personality unless it leads to a prosecutable offense. Even in such instances, I prefer to distinguish between these two aspects. Why do you not? 3. Do I think Jodorowsky movie would flop or not? There's no way to know. Do I wish Jodorowsky made it? Absolutely.
@Aldo.flores6 ай бұрын
This “absurd” movie it’s actúa the most important movie on history, because of all that could be and specially the team Jodorowsky reunited were responsible of all sci-fi (and other genders) movies from the 80’s, 90’s and 2000. Actually the storyboard its still used by the studios as example to make the ones for new productions.
@leeprew8 ай бұрын
Even if the film itself didn't get made the amount of creativity and other projects this helped spawn is justification enough for it almost being made.
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
For sure! But I think the creativity belongs to the artists like H.R Giger, Dan O'bannon, Moebius, and others that actually went on to work on all of the sci-fi films it's credited in inspiring. A lot of the projects that it supposedly "inspired" are not really direct connections. Like with Star Wars, "George Lucas probably saw the Dune script." Is a usual line we've seen. So to me, it's more that the right creative talent got brought together at the right time and because of this project that failed, they now could go on together to make films like Alien or Blade Runner. You don't really see Jodorowsky follow.
@arcvideo6 ай бұрын
He was ahead of time , predicting serials in the style of game of thrones
@seanhewitt6036 ай бұрын
The precursor of all fools everywhere. To change a story is to tell a different story altogether. Twits like this should not be allowed to touch someone else's work.
@BigBossMan2576 ай бұрын
woulve been cool if it was done not as Dune, but as its own thing
@TheGoddon7 ай бұрын
But I am not at all sure about the ending of Jodrofsky’s Dune tho.
@VertisLee5 ай бұрын
Jodorowsky's Dune, The Great Film that will never be.
@ElRadioDJ9136 ай бұрын
It would be great if it were translating into an animated miniseries of Jodorowsky's Dune.
@IcarusLhooq-bc7uq6 ай бұрын
How many of the books did it cover and how much sid they get correct? They can be dnese in action and plots and metaphor and phislosphy. Joderowsky? Yeah the old sci one is so much better rtahn any other next to the original frank series of books. Dali helpe dmak eyhe sets though i thinj for that even older one that goes nuts way off story
@ProfessorChocolateCake8 ай бұрын
I hope you covered the band Magma scoring the music in the film.
@devomk8 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same, just wanted to check the comments;)
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
Meant too, but there were soooo many different elements to this one we didn't really stick around in the music part of it for very long. More just used that Pink Floyd story to show how each encounter was monumental in Jodorowksy's mind
@ProfessorChocolateCake8 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyagerIf you play the opening of the 2019 album 'Zess' over the animatic of the intended opening sequence for the film which appears in the documentary, it matches up perfectly. Also the song 'Hhai' lyrically fits with the Spice Melange concept since it's about the discovery of eternal life and was coincidentally written around the same time pre-production of the film would have started.
@antun886 ай бұрын
It's so sad how many people are applauding that this film didn't get made. I bet every Kubrick movie looked crazy on paper, especially 2001 space oddity. And the Shinning was completely unfaithful to the source material, yet it created a genre of horror.
@kg72196 ай бұрын
how are u extolling the virtues of kubrick but u cant even spell the name of his movies correctly??? this would have been a disaster like the lynch version hahahah and jodorowsky was a hack and a freak
@antun886 ай бұрын
@@kg7219 You don't have to listen to me. Watch an interview with Dan O'Bannon and what he says about Jodorowsky. And Dan is a great artist, unlike you, so he gets it. You saying he's just a freak is really not understanding art and how it is created. It would be like saying Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd is just a freak. He made Pink Floyd and forever changed other band members minds, led them into this new realm of ideas and artistic beauty. Later he completely lost his mind and developed mental issues. I also think this movie would be a disaster, at least in the box office. Jodorowsky lacked discipline and technical ability to make such an ambitious project for the mainstream audience.
@IanZainea19905 ай бұрын
9:27 dali was insane. I don't like that guy.
@writethepath83548 ай бұрын
I'm a fan of William Hurt's SciFi channel Dune and Children of Dune
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
I need to check those out. Realized doing this project I'd never watched them before
@writethepath83548 ай бұрын
@FrameVoyager that's too bad, you can search the birth* scene from Children of Dune, and even though that mini series clearly had a lower budget, that sequence captures a lot of threads coming to their climax
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
Nice! Yeah, I got to see some of those scenes while researching for this one. Plan to go watch it here at some point!
@TimothyMReynolds6 ай бұрын
Don’t you talk shit about Alejandro.
@FrameVoyager6 ай бұрын
Why not? Just showing examples of what he said 🤷♂️
@DavidLeidy6 ай бұрын
The events that followed Jodorowsky’s Dune project had nothing at all to do with Jodorowsky? It was his team he put together haha That’s the most ridiculous claim ever
@Culdune6 ай бұрын
Jodorowski created El Topo, and the Holy Mountain - two of the greatest films ever. The opinion presented in this video that Hollywood studio execs were justified in not trusting Jodorowski to make Dune is complete garbage. Go watch those movies and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. You'll also likely be an imaginatively enhanced person.
@FrameVoyager6 ай бұрын
The trust aspect has nothing to do with how good/bad those films were and everything to do with the things he said. Didn't call his films garbage, I just pointed out he says some crazy stuff. That could cost Hollywood's execs money if there was controversy over that.
@Culdune6 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager I didn't say that you called his films garbage. We're going to have to agree to disagree here. We all know Hollywood actors, directors, and producers are famously shown saying and even worse doing headline grabbing highly unethical things. Yet they're almost always allowed to continue with their careers after the dust settles. Jodorowski would have made artistic and pop culture triumph. It would have been psychedelic Star Wars before Star Wars. The big execs of Hollywood rejected his film because of the proposed big budget not because he was an impractical pervert.
@HamguyBacon6 ай бұрын
Dali was the worst part of the movie, they should have told him to f off, he wanted a stupid giraffe on the set. over rated garbage
@Tantraloverful6 ай бұрын
Jodorowsky was not a very practical and palatable man for the pragamtism- bent Hollywood studios' bosses, but what is clear that while the current 'Dune' is solid and reliable - it is pedestrian, art-wise - mediocre and unimaginative, visually dreary - dull in a few shades of gray (except literally a moment with the blue 'water of life' potion, the entire flm is a goo of off-white to faded beige to asphalt gray), with every space - whether palaces or cave dwellings - looking like delapidated boxy shelters, and flat acting, all dressed like with leftovers from the Lynch's film - once you look for comparison at what the visionary designer like Iris Van Herpen creates for instance - who should be the designer for such film; instead - nothing like a galactic saga happening 20 thousands (!) years in the future ought to be; for sure - nothing psychedelic or surreal, or mind-bending or peering into the thrills space and mind travel.
@johnernest58435 ай бұрын
Well let's wait for another 50 years for the "visionaries" that you esteem of to actually make a movie that exists in the real world and not just in the realm of fantasy
@electricforkshobbes48236 ай бұрын
I thought he was onto something until that bride part, utter quack
@SrWho12344 ай бұрын
VIVA CHILE
@katabasis99996 ай бұрын
Dali was a completely derranged and sick human.
@blankeon66136 ай бұрын
The greatest Sci-Fi film never made.
@JediKnight2078 ай бұрын
Original Dune is weird.
@FrameVoyager8 ай бұрын
Very haha
@JediKnight2077 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager I meant David Linch's version
@FrameVoyager7 ай бұрын
@@JediKnight207 Well that's true as well haha. David Lynch had both hands tied behind his back trying to make that film.
@JediKnight2077 ай бұрын
@@FrameVoyager What does it mean?
@ryanvandalinda123458 ай бұрын
Anyone know where one could read Jodorowsky's DUNE script online?
@HoustonSoto6 ай бұрын
As fascinating a film as it would have been, it would have tanked and no studio would ever support a big science fiction production again for decades. I don’t think Star Wars or Alien would have even happened.