The Untold Story of the ABANDONED Batgirl Movie

[@FrameVoyager]

Which ABANDONED movie should we cover next?

[@phenomenonfilmworks9876]

Gore (2017) might be an interesting one but it comes with the baggage of Kevin Spacey

[@FrameVoyager]

oooof, true. That whole thing is a bizarre story in it's own right

[@michaeltorumedia]

The Fantastic Four and Yellow Submarine

[@FrameVoyager]

@@michaeltorumedia the 90s one? It's on my list 😏

[@michaeltorumedia]

@@FrameVoyagerYes the 90s Fantastic Four film. Awesome can’t wait to see it 🎉

[@darkwoods1954]

Such a shame Keatons Batman was wasted on this and Flash. He should have been given a Batman Beyond movie as a finale to the Burton universe. Every Hollywood studio seems to be so out of touch now, no understanding of their franchises or characters. Or audience for that matter.

[@ms.carriage6867]

no. The nostalgia for his Batman isn't there. If it was a more recent iteration of Batman say Bales version then you have a draw. Keatons Batman is too far removed from more recent superhero films to be relevant and his Batman is never bought up.

[@darkwoods1954]

@@ms.carriage6867 Bales Batman is too recent and the actor too young for batman Beyond though. Ideally a Batman Beyond movie would draw an audience for being an interesting and good movie in and of itself. Keaton being there would just be for the older fans but more as it would make sense for the story. Not just there as nostalgia bait to try and sell the movie.

[@kalybnielsen4183]

I agree, it seems the studios care very little for base material or what their fans and audiences want. It's like M-Men First Class, Mystique being a good guy, they only did that because of who they picked to play her, an actress with absolutely no depth and looked totally creepy, when she died in Dark Phoenix, I actually cheered, in the theater. Most of these movies do pretty well, but if they would follow the base material, at least some, I think they would do so much better, the majority of people going to watch them are comic book nerds

[@ms.carriage6867]

@@darkwoods1954 Judging from The Flash turn out there isn't much of an audience for Keaton as Batman anymore. Bale would work with a few tweaks to the story

[@darkwoods1954]

@@ms.carriage6867 I think it was the movie itself that didn't draw an audience. I love Keatons Batman movies but I didn't bother going to see Flash as it looked bad and like Keaton was irrelevant nostalgia bait in it.

[@BigHitter88]

I got the chance to play a firefighter in this movie (the directors wanted professional firefighters to keep it authentic) and the scenes I got to work on were amazing, the movie was also going to introduce Robin to the DC Universe. Got to meet a lot of the principal cast and they were all buzzing for the movie to come out. It's a shame really, with Brendan Fraser winning an Oscar it would've only elevated the movie

[@nosadonions3231]

It is good to have professional fire fighters around with such an expensive dumpster fire.

[@scruffynerfherder4666]

Bullshit

[@adrianstjrnfldt]

@@nosadonions3231 wrong

[@nosadonions3231]

@@adrianstjrnfldt Muhahaha

[@crashazoid]

Did you get any glimpses as to what Robin would look like in this universe?!

[@TheBermudaMan]

Considering the initial screening of BATMAN V. SUPERMAN was supposedly a big hit among Warner Bros. executives, I can't say I really trust their perspective of what "unreleasable" is.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Batman v superman wasn't as bad as the josstice league that filmed sucked ass

[@aydandraws9444]

Don't forget how the Flash was apparently "the greatest super hero movie they've ever seen."

[@rialightwood-bane6347]

@@aydandraws9444 i mean i didn't see it so they may be right. we will never know

[@Christian39521]

If they considered those great, it scares me of this one is.

[@disregardthat]

@@theoutsiderjess1869 I agree, but it's like comparing diahrrea and solid poop. both of them should be flushed

[@benjaminjackson8663]

Very bold of Zaslov to hide away an unfinished film instead of allowing it to be finalized and released for public opinion. If they really wanted to save money on an unreleasable film, they should've cancelled The Flash.

[@FrameVoyager]

For real! Like, there were several films that you could say the same thing about. Def. just trying to push blame elsewhere

[@LuisSierra42]

It's good that all of DC is flopping rn. Executives are just absolutely f*cking themselves with these erratic decisions and it shows they are totally out of touch with reality

[@davidbranch1077]

Right, Batgirl on that motorcycle is more kooler than a fool running in slow motion. Batgirl is a much better character, not to mention all support characters among her.

[@ethankleinman1067]

@@davidbranch1077 Lol she's definently not cooler than the flash. I think your getting a little ahead of yourself here.

[@anarex0929]

You thinking is like a child. Think why they did it as business man. Its cheaper to write it off as a tax break than throw more money into it. They also dont want to mention the anti woke movement had a hand in kill it. Good for them, the anti woke movement is getting popular.

[@mrfoxly6833]

I actually live in Glasgow, part of my daily routine involved walking through the Botanic gardens. So I remember when they sectioned off an area of the park, presumably to use the abandoned underground train station there. It was quite the sight, and after they were done, I checked the station to find they had thoroughly cleaned the place, removing all the rubbish and plants that had accumulated there. To put in all that hard work, only for some bigwig to just toss it all away… it just isn’t right.

[@marscaleb]

Brenden Frasier as Firefly? Gotta admit, I'd want to watch that movie.

[@jameshowlettii761]

I recall the majority of the online community gearing up to hate this movie long before it was to be released and then, when it was suddenly cancelled, everyone suddenly *_wanted_* this movie.

[@georgeporgy7568]

They wanted it to hate it.

[@MrClassicmetal]

That sounds weird to me. If _everyone_ wanted it, then it would've been released.

[@jameshowlettii761]

@@MrClassicmetal not necessarily at all bro. It worked with the Snyder Cut but that was a precious rarity.

[@MrClassicmetal]

@@jameshowlettii761 In that case a version of the movie was released for the public prior to the Snyder Cut though.

[@georgeporgy7568]

@@MrClassicmetal Think Morbius how people convinced them to rerealease it with a meme.

[@Darkstar77_1]

Warner Discovery claimed so many IP's and projects to tax write offs, it's criminal. Final Space was the one that hit me the hardest.

[@Kenkenny82]

I was about to say exactly that. It pisses me off so much to have lost such a great show.

[@sainttrai]

As a filmmaker this makes me furious! I hate money grubbing executives like David Zaslov

[@FrameVoyager]

It's a little peek behind the curtain of why studios really are creating their own messes.

[@TotallyNotKanye]

But james gunn cancelled it in 2022

[@carlospointofview]

Then you should be mad at the movie. The only reason why it existed in the first place was to make money. It’s not because WB loves and cares about the characters 🤷‍♂️

[@FrameVoyager]

@@carlospointofview because Warner Brothers has been a really good judge of what makes money in the past decade?

[@carlospointofview]

@@FrameVoyager I never said they were, but let’s be honest superhero movies are made with the sole purpose of making money. Regardless if they are blockbuster or flops.

[@Seattletyy93]

My heart goes out to the Directors. Their names on top to be viewed by the public as making such a bad movie it was scrapped. Because they won't say definitively, the public will always view it as such. Feel bad for them. It might even be the case but at least some people could have loved it and defended it. Currently, there's no other optic to the public other than it was trash.

[@Concreteowl]

Blaming the crew and cast for a financial decision was abysmal.

[@samuelrumsey7830]

Just imagine the actress who played batgirl how she feels?😢😮 she got to be a superhero in a movie, but not only does she not get too, but no one else is able to see how it turns out.

[@niallodohertysfx]

I worked on the batgirl movie, im actually in this video at 15:55 and again at 16:05 😂 there were some great set pieces in it, im sure it wouldn't have been any worse received than a lot of modern superhero movies, but unfortunately if WB want to make movies to keep in vaults its their money 🤷🏻‍♂️ good video!

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

I'm guessing that the story was so bad that the execs were afraid it would not only lose money, but actually damage the brand... sort of like a certain marketing exec at a certain beer brewing company.

[@MegaMagicdog]

@@Nyet-Zdyes It wasn't just that - but also the intent to replace Batman and Superman with Batgirl and Supergirl. That's what the initial intent for the Flash film - to reset the universe and have the women take over the DC films. Luckily, people weren't playing the woke game anymore.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@MegaMagicdog So THEY were planning to try the bait-and-switch crap, too... like Marvel and LucasFilms? Doesn't surprise me... most especially not with what they've let CW do to their franchises. Which ALSO doesn't surprise me, considering who/what has been running those franchises at CW. Those intersectional lemmings (like the "Mad Goose Wizard") are swimming for the proverbial cliff as fast as they can.

[@strozombie.01]

​​@@MegaMagicdogactually that idea was scrapped and Keaton was to temporarily replace Ben Affleck until an Infinite Crisis movie would reboot the DCEU. Ultimately that better idea was all scrapped too my James Gunn in favor of a Flashpoint/New 52 style reboot. I wonder if it fails as well will WB do a Rebirth style re-reboot. Going back to the Snyderverse but keeping certain elements. A Crisis movie could bring back both film universes to fight a multiversal threat then resetting everything (again) but by merging it all into a single continuity just like the comics did. Keeping what worked and trashing what didn't. It would be confusing but still EPIC as phuk!

[@ms.carriage6867]

@@Nyet-Zdyes The story wasn't bad per se it was very muddled and mid. The synopsis of it is out there

[@one_man_community]

They're apologizing for pirating their own movie??? That is so sad.

[@quinnaguirre8289]

They never had a chance to sadly.

[@jdranetz]

They tried to pirate a movie Warner paid for.

[@J0SHUAKANE]

They didnt pay for anything.

[@axl_is_alex]

Ive always been a DC Comics fan, and was pretty excited to see this flick cause of Brendan Frasier his come back with Doom Patrol and things I bet he was gonna crush Firefly...sad to know we will never see it.

[@carpenter1138]

WOW, I've never seen this before - As of 10/12/23 with 80k views The "Most Replayed" spike is actually your comercial read for Frame Voyager with the internet Troll - Good work on the Troll - he is a dashing character ;-)

[@zzay3345]

The only film they were producing that i was actually looking forward to was cut and turned into a tax write off. Meanwhile the 3 other films that all were supposed to restructure the DCEU flopped miserably.

[@ethankleinman1067]

Damm you were actually looking foward to seeing this film?!😂

[@zzay3345]

@@ethankleinman1067 I like Batgirl, and I like Brendan Fraser.

[@randallflagg3700]

@@ethankleinman1067 - I sure was, it was pretty much an adaptation of Batgirl: Year One (2003) by Chuck Dixon and Scott Beatty, and I adore this 9 issues miniseries... Firefly (Ted Carson's incarnation) played by Brendan Fraser was an incredibly intriguing casting and I was really looking forward to it, plus we would have gotten our very first live action Killer Moth since the 1960s Batgirl pilot, so it was a big deal for me since I love that villainous duo! There was also JK Simmons as Jim Gordon, and Michael Keaton as Batman, what's not to like about it if you're a DC fan?

[@akilbrazier1421]

@@zzay3345 I also like Batgirl and Brendan Fraser, but it was obvious to me that the movie was gonna suck and then flop as a result lol.

[@Houswal]

By looking at and listening to those "directors" you kinda understand why the movie was going to be shit.

[@javebjorkman]

You guys just keep getting better. Loving this new series!

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it!

[@syckles]

Unlike the Snyder cut, Batman fans were protesting FOR this to be canceled.. 😅😂

[@user-bz7hz4jl1t]

Fr it looked like a CW show. If you’re going to make a Batgirl movie please do it right. Hopefully in the future 🤞

[@TheTechnoPilot]

Wow, as a filmmaker I would honestly argue it’s nothing close to piracy for the creators of the film to want to retain a copy of their work. While I know this is sadly not the intensely corporate version of copyright we sadly need to live with, moralistically this is truly despicable. The fact that the studios can without warning pull all access, that I would argue is creative thief!

[@FrameVoyager]

It makes sense that it's owned by the studios, but yeahhhh. That video of them seemed kinda interesting, almost like they were told they had to apologize or something lol

[@qhorton6743]

​@FrameVoyager i got those vibes as well

[@tyrant7583]

​@@anarex0929 LOL! I swear most people who comments on KZbin are severely mentally ill. Your telling a man who ACTUALLY works in the field he's naive and should watch some TV to get educated like you. He's actually out in the world working with real people. Not sitting around out of shape watching documentaries online. You have ZERO real world experiences just videos you watched. So pathetic that loser's now consider watching online videos as real life experience.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

Personally, I don't see any reason that a "filmmaker" deserves any more rights than any other person involved in making things...

[@carlaazevedo.teacher]

It was probably a move based on what Snyder did w/ JL. I remember reading that he had a copy (or the original files) of what he had filmed and that was part of the pressure the RSC people did to get his version. WBD most likely cut the directors' access to avoid that.

[@phonglu7329]

can you blame the the executives i mean look at the batgirl costume can you blame them really?

[@LaughingPsycho]

The production company treated the extras so badly that the agency I'm with refuses to work with them on anything again.

[@charlespuruncajas9663]

I think only two things to consider: - Warner apparently likes to lose money, come on, at least companies like Paramount had the guts to sell movies that didnt worked well at screen tests (like Cloverfield Paradox or Annihilation) to Netflix at least recover the money. - Even when the film wouldnt go anywhere, seeing Brendan Fraser back in action movies would have worked

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

The advertising, distribution, and screen rentals alone would have easily exceeded double of what Warner had spent on the film. There was already a cold reception to it's impending release. The studio could have easily lost $200 million if released worldwide could have cast an even darker cloud on subsequent superhero film endeavors.

[@orlock20]

@@PhantomFilmAustralia Netflix doesn't advertise programs outside its platform and there is no distribution costs either.

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

@@orlock20 Of course it does. Advertising occurs on many different platforms such as almost every social media, as it does advertise on billboards, magazines, newspapers, and telecommunication companies. It is also a major purchaser of people's private information to monitor interests and viewing habits to make sure you know about a product.

[@jhenson1618]

The Batman (1966) TV Series came out 6MO before the Batman (1966) Movie by the way. The movie was not first as stated in this documentary.

[@FrameVoyager]

Yeah that was my bad in the edit. On our script it was that way but it was accidentally switched. Sorry about that!

[@TotallySearch]

Don't forget about the stunt double who is sueing Warner Bros for almost "dy1ng" from this movie, brutal

[@FuglyStick]

That's dumb reasoning. Whether the film is released or not has zero bearing on a potential settlement.

[@IanM-id8or]

I was so disappointed that this movie wasn't released. Batgirl has always been one of my favourite characters

[@jerry2968]

I am dissapointed in what happened tor 2 reasons. The first is Batgirl/Barbara Gordon is one of my favorite female characters in comics and I would love to see a good live action version of her on the big screen. The 2nd is why the hell would WB film an entire film that they didn't deem worthy of release does the studio not review scripts and plans before they green light projects for millions of dollars. I guess making decisions like this we can see why WB is millions of dollars in debt.

[@DaveMiller2]

You never know how good a film is until it's filmed. A good script can be poorly executed.

[@fnsmike]

Any media that gets used like this as a tax write off should immediately enter the public domain. We just paid for it, give it to us.

[@DaveMiller2]

We didn't pay for it. Studios and investors paid for it.

[@marquisehebbler9471]

@@DaveMiller2but a tax write off is the government stepping in and covering it. If you’re a tax payer, your dollars went towards it 🙄

[@DaveMiller2]

@@marquisehebbler9471 No. It means that the studio took a percentage of the cost of the film off of the tax they owed. They paid less in taxes. We didn't pay anything.

[@cthulhutheendless1587]

Never going to happen. Even if Batgirl just released quietly onto Max, the film’s presence would be a draw to their streaming service and thus they’d indirectly make some money. Releasing the film in any form would be benefiting financially from distribution, therefore preventing them from collecting their beloved merger money Edit: I’m not even sure if Batgirl will EVER enter the public domain. The character sure will, a few decades down the line, but since the movie was never released, it may just sit in a vault for eternity

[@DaveMiller2]

The movie was not even close to being finished. The filming was only 75% done. No special effects work was done and the background score/music wasn't finished either. Tax break aside, it would take tens of millions or more to finish filming and do the effects and editing. Leslie Grace won't come back either. Batgirl is gone and will NEVER be seen. The only thing that might happen is someone at WB leaking a copy of the rough footage that they have. That's the best you will get and that is a slim chance. Who knows, WB may have deleted the files. The directors don't have anything. It's LONG past time to move on from Batgirl. This film and the circumstances around it are nothing like the Snyder cut.

[@ahdvd]

Bit of a long one, but hear me out - here’s my theory on why Batgirl was scrapped - the casting of JK Simmons as Gordon AND the casting of Michael Keaton as Batman. Because of these two casting in the same movie, it did not fit either narrative of the two active versions of DC universes that were currently active at the time David Zaslav took over Warner Bros. During the production of Batgirl, DC at WB was in a horrible state. The heads in charge were having a civil war over how they were going to proceed with shows and movies set in the DC universe. The Arrowverse (apart from the Superman & Lois series, which despite being on the bubble was coming back for a 2nd season at the time, and was confirmed to be a different universe to the Arrowverse) was coming to an end. The DC app shows were winding down. Matt Reeves ‘The Batman’ movie had been fairly successful in setting up a new Batman (which was originally intended to be a Ben Affleck Batman movie set in the Snyderverse with Bruce Wayne facing attack from Deathstroke - as setup in both versions of Justice League in a cameo played by Joe Manganiello, until Reeves was brought in to replace Affleck as director and retooled it into his own version of Batman, recasting the role with Robert Pattenson as a different version as well as casting Jeffrey Wright to the role of Jim Gordon). Whats more, because The Batman was a success, the go ahead was given to create a show exclusively for HBO Max, following Colin Farrell’s Penguin, set in that universe. As the DCU, what would become known as the Snyderverse, was not performing as successfully as producers hoped, despite them forcing out Snyder from his Justice League movie (I believe under the guise of using a family tragedy as a reason so the executives didn’t look bad) and bringing in Joss Whedon fresh from a (somewhat) successful stint on Marvel’s MCU Avengers movies. Some eXecutives at DC/WB hated Snyder’s versions of the universe and its characters - after the disappointing performance of Batman Vs Superman, they sprung into damage control mode, removing Snyder from JL as mentioned, and radically altering David Ayer’s upcoming Suicide Squad movie, bringing in music video editors to re-edit the tone of the movie, add in numerous hit songs to create a movie to sell a soundtrack album inspired by how successful Marvel had been with a similar soundtrack release to the first Guardians Of The Galaxy movie. When Snyder tried to come back, they did everything they could to prevent him from finishing his cut of Justice League, until they were overruled by their then owners at the time - AT&T, who were looking for more material for the HBO Max streaming platform. So I believe a plan was hatched with the upcoming Flash movie, which used elements of the Flashpoint story,, with Barry Allen accidentally changing the past resulting in Bruce being killed instead of his father Thomas Wayne, and Thomas Wayne instead becoming Batman. So in the chaos of the DC civil war, they changed it, taking the opportunity to bring back their preferred Batman, Michael Keaton. What’s more, I bet they intended to KEEP Keaton once Flashpoint ended., getting rid of ‘Batfleck’ once and for all. Is it starting to add up yet? Batgirl was collateral damage, a casualty of in-fighting at DC/WB with elements trying to erase elements of the Snyderverse they didn’t like. Then along comes David Sazlav - taking control of a company with a brand - Batman - a very lucrative brand, but one that is starting to maybe suffer from brand liquidation through too many active versions in recent history (7 different actors - Keaton, Kilmer, Clooney, Bale, Affleck & Pettensin- in movies, a version - albeit using a version of ‘Hush’ in The Arrowverse, an older version in Titans) there was just too many at once that everything was getting muddled - which is what happened in Batwoman. The casting of the 3 characters of Barbara Gordon/Batwoman, Jim Gordon, and Bruce Wayne/Batman seem to be from 3 different versions, which would just confuse an average audience. I believe this was an attempt to right the ship by removing so many multiple versions of the same character, and Batwoman did not fit any of those versions because it tried to fit to 3 different ones at once.

[@Mentski]

The problem with Batgirl is that it's existence in DCEU "canon" relied on the Flash's original ending staying in place (Supergirl replacing Superman, and Michael Keaton's Batman turning up when Barry returns to the future, replacing Batfleck). The thing is, the people in control were replaced midway through production and decided to change direction, Keeping Affleck and bringing back Cavill's Superman (hence his appearance at the end of Black Adam). Flash got reshot, so did Aquaman if rumours are correct, but Keaton was so fundamental to Batgirl's existence that it was just cheaper to write it off, I think. (To the people shouting "Why couldn't they cancel The Flash?" Movies are often presold to cinemas. When you've gotten to that point, you're pretty much locked in, and it kinda HAS to come out.) ....Then James Gunn came in, decided to spin the DC movies into yet another direction and Flash's ending got reshot AGAIN (The George Clooney Ending). Talk about throwing good money away after bad.

[@cthulhutheendless1587]

That’s a good point about presales, but I personally doubt WB cared about continuity enough to scrap an already-made film. They’ve been breaking continuity for years, after all. They did it as a cynical tax write off, nothing more, nothing less.

[@mcarp555]

Note: The Adam West Batman TV show actually spawned the film, not the other way round as you suggested.

[@SashaAmess]

Wait how did you not mention the Birds of Prey tv show Batgirl/ Oracle, that costume was epic!

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

It was the Alicia Silverstone costume, repainted.

[@SashaAmess]

@@DrFranklynAnderson I know, that repaint changed everything! And that cowl is what Alicia Silverstone’s really needed

[@-Mister-_._-Sir-]

Hot take here, all these fucking movies about bat family fail because their either kill batman, make him irrelevant, or have him somehow not help. A good way to do these would be a series of movies for each bat family member as a showcase, dealing with their own villain in search for batman who went missing. Then all culmination with batman movie, which also would be a reveal of who is cast as batman. This way everyone gets their time to shine and also have it make sense. Cause lets be real, there is a reason why almost no one gives a shit about new cap america after we already had steve rogers.

[@edschelchang6123]

But what about Miles Morales? They literally kill Peter early in the film but Spiderverse is still successful

[@DaveMiller2]

WBD cancelled Batgirl for the tax write off, but also because the film was started under Hamada who was planning to erase the old DCEU/Snyderverse. Initially, after Discovery took over, WBD was going to go back to the old DCEU instead of Hamada's erasure, and Batgirl didn't fit into that model. Between that and the money, they decided to axe Batgirl. WBD later went on to reverse its' decision and abandon the DCEU with the Gunn reboot. A bad decision that has brought them nothing but grief. DC seems to be cursed, and Warner Brothers seems hopelessly incompetent.

[@jonfreeman9682]

Trust me WB doesn't need any write offs. They have hundreds of millions of losses. No further write-offs needed.

[@crazyrabbits]

James Gunn et al. also wants to erase the DCEU... or rather, the parts of the DCEU that weren't directly under Gunn's directorial thumb (i.e. Peacemaker, The Suicide Squad and Waller). It's already caused a schism in the hardcore fans, half of which liked the DCEU (or perhaps, the Snyderverse timeline that was more-or-less done with ZSJL) and half of which want a fresh start. If WB were deadset on cancelling Batgirl just because they didn't like the direction the previous executive regime was going in, they would have been better served cancelling The Flash, a film that spent nearly as long in development as the entire CW series of the same name, was subjected to reshoots and money thrown out to cover Ezra Miller's legal troubles (long past the point where it would have been economically-feasbile to do so) and lost so much money that there are claims it's one of the biggest box office flops of all time. And that's not counting the other movies they had/have in the pipeline (Shazam 2, Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2), the first two of which were flops as well. If theatre deals were a concern, they likely would have lost less money breaking the contracts versus the wash they got with it getting out into the wild. If timeline problems are an issue (as the film was apparently set post-Flash with Simmons as Gordon and some weird hybrid universe where Keaton is still Batman), just call it an Elseworlds tale, do the barest minimum to make it watchable and dump it on MAX.

[@DaveMiller2]

@@crazyrabbits It was far from finished when cancelled. It would cost close to $100 million to finish. And being a tax write off they would have to give that tax break back to be able to release it. But yeah, the studio has been complete idiots. They've made a boatload of bad decisions regarding DC.

[@BakariFisher]

Gunn reboot is their best chance for success. He made arguably the best franchise at Marvel with the most unknown characters. The Guardians stole the show over at Marvel, what do you think he can do with Superman/Batman? Bright Burn was like a FYou to DC and it was better than 90% of what DC has put out

[@DaveMiller2]

@@BakariFisher The Guardians worked because they had the Marvel Momentum behind them. Everyone was engaged in the MCU and didn't want to miss an episode so to speak. Marvel was on top of their game back then, unlike now. Had Marvel made the Guardians as a stand alone film and there was no MCU, it wouldn't have done nearly as well as it did. I think Iron man, Spider Man, and Captain America were better franchises. Some of the others were as good as Guardians. I don't have hope for Gunns DCU. Guardians are my least favorite MCU franchise other than Captain Marvel. I thought The Suicide Squad was terrible. And I thought Peacemaker was trash, especially that JL cameo. Totally disrespectful. And I don't care for Gunns 8th grade toilet humor. Superman doesn't look good to me. I Don't know what he will do for Batman so I'm not sure about that. Supergirl might be good. Too early to tell. The Green Lantern Film has promise, but also too early. If you ask me, WB snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Twice. Studio incompetence has been their entire problem. I thought Zaslav would fix it, and at first it looked like he was doing it, but then he blew it. Now I don't think Zaslav cares about DC. He just wants to sell WB and get out of the mess. DC fans live in the house of pain.

[@richardm3023]

I might be interested in watching this movie, if it were free, and I was laid up in the hospital with a broken leg, and I was heavily drugged with pain killers, and ...

[@devin_leary]

I've met someone who has footage in a folder from the movie. He helped with production. It's a shame.

[@FrameVoyager]

Sad to see something like this a lot of people worked hard on get arbitrarily thrown away

[@devin_leary]

@@FrameVoyager They worked with WB and not for. So the footage wasn’t locked for this person. Though, they only have RAW files of it. That’s all I can really say but I will say there’s still footage out there!

[@FrameVoyager]

@@devin_leary It wouldn't be the first time a film that was never released got to see the light of day haha

[@foxthebox3067]

Man, it would be a shame if that got leaked...

[@killustrator]

They knew it was shit.... so they cancelled it. The end

[@Hexterguard99]

Good call by Zaslav to cancel it, the test screenings showed that it would have bombed at the box office. However I wish that Flash was cancelled as well.

[@Ocarina654]

Did you miss the part where there was one early test screen with a rough first cut? These sorts of test screenings are hardly an indicator of the final product. It's a way for the filmmakers to help shape that final product into being the best version of itself it could be. Now, it is POSSIBLE that the movie was gonna be garbage. But it's also entirely possible that the movie would have been fine. There are a mountain of really bad comic book movies that all got to be released theatrically. Whether the movie ended up being bad or not, it should have had a chance to be released, if for no other reason than the effort that so many people put into making it.

[@aaronbryant8074]

It was a rough cut, but 90% of what they had was intact for what they had from the actual shooting script. Their "additional work" would have consisted of color correction, minor cgi additions and film scoring. The problem was execution in filmmaking and the foundations of the script itself The one sequence that was going to require an additional full reshoot was the final action/chase sequence where Batgirl is after Firefly before he can ignite gas lines in the sewers of Gotham City. It was just horribly shot. You couldn't tell anything for where the characters were in regards to Firefly's plan actually succeeding, the action and stunts looked incredibly, incredibly cheap and it was topped with writing for characters making unbelievable dumb choices or reveals that came completely out of nowhere. Like the end of the "chase" where Firefly "just knows" Barabara Gordon was Batgirl all along even though they never shared a scene together before the ending. The reshoots for this sequence alone would have cost an additional 3-4 million at least if not more Adding to the problem was the fact the writing of Barbara Gordon was just horrible. The character had no integrity, substance and just came across unlikeable. She turns on/judges everyone at one point or another in the film, even Jim Gordon. With barely any evidence or detective work, one bit of information leads her to think Jim Gordon has been corrupt for YEARS. So Barbara then equates to him also lying to her about every other aspect of their relationship...only for her to find out 20 mins later she was completely wrong...but never apologizes for treating Jim horribly when she did automatically assume he was guilty And that's just the tip of the iceberg on what issues this film had...

[@Ocarina654]

@@aaronbryant8074 If you were actually at that screening and saw all this then that is a compelling report! I'm willing to believe it, my issue is just that, as far as I knew before, no one had come forward with this information!

[@jonfreeman9682]

Test screenings aren't accurate alot of times. They're like critics. If critics praise the show then it's probably average. If critics think it's irredeemably bad then it's likely not bad at all and pretty good. Critics and fans are usually opposite.

[@Eli-as12]

Damn, this is the first time I've ever heard of a cancelling of a movie would lead to an investigation by the government. Like that's so bad to have as part of an industry's history because the government have gotten involved

[@gregorygilbert5550]

Utter garbage movie concept, glad they scrapped it. Too bad Disney hasn't made that decision with new Snow White. Flash being scapped should have happened as well.

[@marcomacias3960]

wait, didn't Batgirl already have a film debut? what about ''Batman & Robin''? that film had her

[@Teasebag]

I always wondered, could WB just release the film for free? Can’t pay tax on losses if you don’t sell it right?

[@v1nigra3]

Even if they don’t get earnings, reputation is still the other important part, the movie will still get reviews and would be a backlash on the brands that participated

[@DaveMiller2]

It isn't done. Some scenes are unfilmed. The effects are not even close to being finished. It isn't edited. The score and sound need a lot of work.

[@9aqiraa]

@@DaveMiller2how do u know

[@DaveMiller2]

0@@9aqiraa It was widely reported after the cancellation news.

[@kongwubba81]

Compare this to "Release the Snyder Cut" is inappropriate. They were not the same.

[@KigreTheViking]

Luckily we have the absolute masterpiece that is "The Batman" by Matt Reeves. It's so good i almost cant believe it got made.

[@FrameVoyager]

Right? I was actually not at all interested when they announced it but when I saw the cinematography and the actual attention to doing something stylistic, I was sold.

[@closeredge5198]

FACTS...it should still be getting talked about

[@Space_Toasty]

People need to shut up about this nonsense. No matter your sex or race, as long as You're the one that can do the job the best

[@FloatingWhales]

There is a lot to consider here, but arguably it is very fair to say that if the test screenings had been positive, if the movie had been as great as everyone involved claimed, then it wouldn't have been scrapped, and certainly not for some tax reasons - the P&L here would never make sense since superhero flicks can rake in tons of money, and even at a break even point it would make more sense, would have to look at the tax deduction specifics to make this calculation, but even for USA's lax tax laws I don't see this as being logical. This was also on the back of Brendan Frasier's return and Keaton as Batman again, which would certainly have gotten tickets sold just for that. I have a feeling that not only was the movie far worse than what we realise, it possibly contained content that made executives fear that it wouldn't sell in places like China & India(huge markets for superhero content). Good to keep in mind that the WW2 and Black Widow had performed poorly and with lackluster reviews criticising story and messaging of both films - to put in a different perspective, the two most well-known established female led hero films that had recently come out, both didn't do well. Imagine if Batgirl had similar story-beats, or message-beats, someone might see parallels and think well that didn't go so well last time. So... If we assume that the studio had an unsalable product, which after marketing costs and general distribution, they knew would never break even, then it would make sense that they would scrap it for a tax deduction. However if the film was sell able for a profit, it wouldn't make sense, also considering the negative backlash this had on the studio and company.

[@wiersandlines]

it boggles my mind that they cancelled this movie instead of The Flash. After all of Ezra Millers bulshit I wouldn've thought they'd bury it.

[@MrWisdom7]

Let's not kid ourselves. The movie would have bombed hard. The DCEU was a hot mess and wasn't ready for a Batgirl movie yet. I wouldn't mind seeing it streamed though. Just to know what could have been.

[@akilbrazier1421]

Yea I agree. I’d definitely watch it for free out of curiosity just to see how bad it really is lol. And they weren’t ready for a Blue Beetle movie either, cause look what happened with that lol. It was a good movie but not enough people cared about the character or trusted DC enough to give the movie a chance. Batgirl is a decently popular character, but she’s not BatMAN. And with how badly the brand has been tarnished, no movie NOT named Batman or Superman was gonna do well. Not to mention Gunn didn’t help when he announced the reboot. He killed any kind of hype that those movies had. But that more applies to BB and the 2023 DC movies, of course, and not Batgirl.

[@t.k.1319]

@11:54, one of the directors is saying “there were no scenes, there were no reshoots.” Reshoots cost money. WB didn’t want to spend any more money on Batgirl. Not for reshoots, distribution, marketing. Nothing.

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

I love when you make those cool intros and set pieces. That add so much more to the high-quality production and top-notch editing of your videos. This channel is going places. :P

[@FrameVoyager]

Appreciate it! I like to add some fun stuff for series type videos. This one had some great stuff!

[@andrewhasseler7131]

There seems like some things wrong here, even a casual fan like myself wld know. 1st, wasnt the Batman 66movie after the 1st and 2nd season? 2nd, Batwoman showed up in the tv show birds of prey wwaayy before the latest cw version...

[@FrameVoyager]

Yeah I got the movie and show mixed up in the edit accidentally and didn't catch that I had done that. The scripting for it we had in the correct order. My bad!

[@andrewhasseler7131]

@FrameVoyager i remember in the beginning of the early 00s birds of prey w batwoman it had batman briefly in the intro. I always thgt it was weird they let batman appear in such a terrible show

[@Wizard_Level_1]

What a shame. This movie has some really cool practical stunts, it's street level, it's not full of CGI, it looks like a continuation of the Keaton Batverse. This should have been released to streaming, or syndicated to CW or something.

[@DanielRundellpnw833]

Warner Bros has been making alot of bad choices lately it really upsets me

[@ConradSpoke]

Maybe it's a bad idea to hire two Moroccan/Belgian drug-worshiping party boys to direct a classic American creation.

[@Reedith]

Oh my God I had no idea that the batwoman CW show got three seasons I don't know whether to be impressed or annoyed we all know it should have been scrapped after one

[@anonygent]

That's as many as the original Star Trek. It's horrific.

[@strozombie.01]

The 1966 Batman TV show aired first then they made the movie the following year. Not the other way around...

[@thomasemory4352]

I thought that sounded wrong

[@ravenbom]

Everytime I read an article about Batgirl and saw screenshots, I 100% thought it was a TV show. It didn't look like movie-quality outfits (yes, I've read Batgirl from her mid New 52 reboot to the Batgirl of Burnside and loved the new look and character change) and I assumed it was just gonna be a new direction for the Batwoman show. The only thing that shocked me about the cancellation was that it was supposed to be a movie. I mean, the darker Synder-verse is just not really the best universe for that lighthearted version the character was based on.

[@crazyrabbits]

They should have just done a Batman Beyond movie with Keaton.

[@raythackston1960]

Glad it was canceled. Last thing we need is more garbage from Warner Brothers. More great movies with actual stories and less woke BS.

[@ChrisKat]

Thank you for highlighting details publicly covered in interviews and articles. One day the actual untold story may be told and not just alluded to in a clickbaity-title.

[@FrameVoyager]

You're very welcome 😘

[@squatchit5700]

I was going to subscribe, but after watching the video I changed my mind since I already knew this info, I'm sure their other videos are also click bait.

[@FrameVoyager]

@@squatchit5700 lmao, "clickbait" 😂 I'm glad you knew the info but not everyone did. If you think this was clickbait, what are you even doing on KZbin? 💀💀💀

[@narcisosanz8137]

​@@squatchit5700getting the fuck off in silence is always a good option.

[@Itslizzylulu]

I didn’t even know that they were gonna do a Batgirl Film, I always love batgirl as a Kid, Yet I was sad because it was my favorite superhero, and I feel sad for the Actress Leslie Grace and the other actors who were casted in the film.

[@ms.carriage6867]

I've read the synopsis for Bat-Girl and it was definitely a mid streaming film imo. It would have done fine on streaming but would have died in cinemas like Shazam, Black Adam and The Flash did. Why the overly specific focus on cancelling Bat-Girl from WBD remains a mystery

[@jonestownkoolaid371]

Get real. The movie was trash, so they shut that shit down. And of course, no actor or directors are gonna bad mouth it. They still want to get future work. If this movie had potential to make a decent profit it would of been released. It was trash and no one wanted to take the fall for it being trash. Why do you think it went through 3 directors. The best director would of been joss whedon, but he seen it for the pile of dog shit it was and tapped out.

[@Shoup1155]

I'm just so happy they made a great decision here........................

[@JelloFluoride]

It would have sucked. Most things coming from the land of nepotism do.

[@S.A.N.503]

Pretty frustrating because I was actually looking forward to seeing Batgirl. And all the little behind the scenes stuff that I've seen, or just on set photos and in camera work all looked pretty good. They had really cool, grungy set designs as well. What a waste.

[@rekeesefil]

"John strainer seems like a guy who understands sarcasm" John: .......FALSE!

[@8lec_R]

DC just keeps shooting itself in the foot.

[@FrameVoyager]

For real though! Fascinating story

[@akilbrazier1421]

Not really. They actually did the right thing here for once.

[@MrRomanweb]

The issue with the film is the same horrible issue with the failed TV show. Hence, one of thousands of cringe inducing, eye rolling lines, " I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work." Oh brother. And I would contend that the disdain for the film during the test screening went beyond the idea of an unfinished film given that most test screenings are unfinished films. Audiences are given that the heads up before they view it.

[@huddolife4830]

I really hope the movie gets leaked, the special effects wouldn't be finished but we could still judge it on everything else

[@angusmacfrankenstein7227]

1:50--Per Wikipedia, "The film [ _Batman,_ from 1966] hit theaters two months after the last episode of the first season of the television series." I've heard this from other sources before. If I recall right, the movie was made for the non-US market, as an introduction to the series.

[@lennynero635]

Tax write offs surely have been a major factor for the decision to can Batgirl but the quality (or lack thereof) of the movie surely is as important a factor as the write offs. If WB had been convinced that the movie was going to a big hit, they surely would have released it. But they doubted that and did not want to invest another $100 - 150m into marketing for a movie of subpar quality. Bad Boys III definitely looked (at times) very cheap at pretty much the same budget as Batgirl (granted salaries of main actors were pretty high I suspect)

[@BakariFisher]

Them locking the 2 directors out so they couldn't back up or record the footage, saved us all. They thought they would leak the footage like Ryan Reynolds did Deadpool, but it would have most likely just lead to embarrassment

[@raspberries6992]

Yvonne Craig is a goddess! I had the privilege of meeting her at ComicCon, and she even signed one if my Batgirl drawings! She was kind and graceful, and just everything I could have hoped for in that fleeting encounter! Batgirl remains one of my all time favourite characters, but I owe that love to the original live action Batgirl! ❤

[@StevenCampsOut]

Yvonne was and will always be, My Favorite Batgirl!

[@davidanderson_surrey_bc]

Best super-hero theme song ever! "Bat-girrrrrrrrrrrrlllll.... BATGIRL!" [repeat once, and there you have it]

[@theunwantedcritic]

That Rolling Stones album that you have next to the Beatles didn’t come out until late 1970s 10 years later after the back road TV series

[@queazy03]

Warner Bros executives Ann Sarnoff & her lackeys Tobey Emmerich + Walter Hamada were going full M-She-U with Warner Bros properties. Not only were they the ones chomping at the bit to get rid of Snyder, they wanted to replace Batman with Batgirl, Superman with Supergirl, and of course keep Wonder Woman. They're also the ones who kept Dwayne The Rock Johnson from having his Black Adam versus Superman movie from coming to fruition for years, wouldn't even let him go on social media to hype it up. They even had that classic Hollywood move of replacing a white redhead with a black person for Batgirl. Everything I'm told about the people who saw the funeral screening of the Batgirl movie was that it was like a long CW show with one big set piece at the end. Michael Keaton's Batman was there to train Batgirl to be his replacement, because of course this is Hollywood. Just take a look at how they replace Iron Man with Iron Heart to gauge how successful that forced diversity "passing of the torch" is

[@aaronbryant8074]

It was just a prolonged CW episode but with even less likeable characters. And Keaton's barely in the film, only there for promotion honestly and not substance. He never has scenes training Batgirl, she just does everything herself...even though he knows she's Barbara Gordon and even tells it to her face by their 2nd scene together (which is literally one minute of screen time)...only for her to steal his grappling gun off of him somehow in the same scene

[@darktiger5202]

I hate when imaginary characters are race-swapped becai have to reminded of just how much some people do not want people who look like me playing "their" characters. When will they be our characters? Besides a lot of White characters were meant to be other races, but, as usual, people were afraid of what White people would say. This is supposed to be fun for everyone, not just White people.

[@IJustWatchYouTubeAllDay]

Did you just say sadly the Batgirl TV show was canceled? Wow dude that movie was trash everyone was happy when it died because it deserved the horrible death that it got.

[@FrameVoyager]

Turn of phrase lol

[@MrHumatang]

It couldn’t have been worse than the flash. This just seems like sexism taking over when tough decisions have to be made. Cancel the female superhero film because it’s not great, instead of cancel the dude superhero film because it’s actually bad

[@FrameVoyager]

Absolutely agree! It's pretty crazy that this one got cancelled

[@tallerwarrior1256]

Well the reason the flash wasn’t cancelled was because the film just was too damn expensive believe it or not. I also think that at the time of Batgirls cancellation it was still pretty marketable until of course everything with Ezra Miller came out. The whole thing was a disaster.

[@FrameVoyager]

@@tallerwarrior1256 True! But odd that they didn't cancel Blue Beetle as that was well into production at that point too. And to me batgirl seems way more marketable then Blue Beetle. But again, I kind of laugh because WB's track record suggests they greenlight good superhero films most of the time. Maybe Batgirl would have been a good one haha. Probably not but still just a fascinating story

[@tallerwarrior1256]

@@FrameVoyager I think the only reason I would’ve gone to see Batgirl was for Brendan Fraser. Also yeah it’s strange how they didn’t cancel Blue Beetle but then again the reason why was probably because the film was relatively cheap and the test audiences probably enjoyed it more than other films. All in all I think they should’ve just either put their remaining DC projects on streaming or just cancelled them all until Creature Commandos which will apparently now be the start of the new DC universe.

[@FrameVoyager]

@@tallerwarrior1256 funny enough I think blue beetle had a similar budget if not just a little more expensive. The BATGIRL movie was only an $80 million budget, which with superhero movies is like nothing

[@VascovanZeller]

I'm a project manager (IT) and I've seen my share of projects what SHOULD have been canceled but so much money has been spent (or sunk) into them that nobody has the balls to actually cancel them. It's not easy going to a team or stakeholder and telling them "I'm trashing all of your efforts" even when that would be the right thing to do. Now I know nothing about this movie and so don't know if this was the right or wrong call (or if it's even so simple) but I have to say from my career that it does indeed take a bold and courageous person to cancel a project when it's very advanced.

[@FrameVoyager]

I think the issue most people question about this decision is why cancel this and not other films that were clearly terrible light The Flash. But this was totally canceled because of financial reasons imo

[@mjtimko1]

I agree that The Falsh was terrible. I think WBD's mistake is that they backed that movie thinking if they kept pouring money into the pit that a usable product would emerge. They assumed backing a member of the Jusijce League made more sense than backing a side kick... no.matter how much money they had to spend. Once they spent 220 million they thought they had to somehow recoop those loses and they saw a tax write off and savings on residuals as a easy way to erase the financial strain caused by Flash. Where the Flash went wrong is they did not tell an original story. They tried to mash together to regurgitated ideas... Flash Point & Man of Steel. Problem is we saw both and we really did not want to see them again.

[@TheTechnoPilot]

It’s ALWAYS the wrong call to unanimously against the opinions of the artists involved cancel the project after the money has already been spent! ALWAYS!

[@jordanwhite352]

​@@mjtimko1I agree to this, but to more of a focus context, flashpoint from the comics is an actual amazing story. The problem is is it should have been like the third flash movie and or like a avengers style event that happens after a couple of flash movies and the first crisis movie or leading up to a crisis movie. Doing that as the first movie for this character. The huge disservice and like you said it felt like it was all these other movies but being a flash movie. Movie that just happened to have the flash in it instead of actually starring and looking at the character of the flash.

[@mjtimko1]

@jordanwhite352 Agreed. They should have done an original adventure first and possibly built up to Flashpoint if they ever wanted to do it. They could have picked Captain Cold, Captain Boomerang, Mirror Master or made up someone new. His origin story could have literally been told in the opening credits. "Hi, I'm Barry Allen. I was a normal CCPD forensic analyst until one night when I was struck by lightning. The lightning made me fast. Now I'm the..." Cue the opening title... THE FLASH in big bold letters.

[@joshuathomson1998]

It kinda suck that we will never be able see Batgirl even tho it probably sucked Big time

[@rafaelunplugged]

The media and audience would’ve murdered this film online if it released and didn’t hit their lowest of expectations though lol

[@FrameVoyager]

Hahaha probably

[@rafaelunplugged]

@@FrameVoyager it’s a can’t win world now haha. Would’ve love to see evil Brendan Frazier tho

[@FrameVoyager]

@@rafaelunplugged yeah that would have been cool. Tho feels like everyone always wants to get that villain role haha.

[@carrastealth]

2018: "Whedon left cause he couldn't come up with a vision for the film." That's kind of a problem... hiring a Director for a film before they even have any idea *how* they're going to do it...

[@CoopaCoop]

One director was getting married and the other was at a graveyard visiting his grandparents? Oh come on lol. Bit of a stretch there "This just in, The third director was boarding a rocket to mars when he found out the horrific news"

[@SharkNomNom-ns6qu]

Very unfortunate timing to find out for sure but life happens. Marriages and funerals do happen on the daily

[@eabutler6861]

its amazing the amount of people that want to see this garbage film.....

[@marsmars9130]

Saw the screening it was HORRIBLE! the biggest WOKE crap you could imagine, Be glad it wasnt released, same for Snow Brown Formally Snow White

[@mickiemousseau4850]

Having actually watched The Flash, I have to say I think WB made the wrong decision here and I honestly think it was made out of fear. Despite Wonder Woman being one of the better DC films, I think they didn't want a repeat of what happened with Captain Marvel.

[@MrBrutal33]

I think we dodged another woke bullet tbh

[@VideoDuffelBag]

In all fairness, this is not anything new. Scoob 2 was also cancelled and it was also in post production. There's also a movie Jamie Foxx directed and a Netflix film that were in post but they got cancelled and yet a big deal was made about Batgirl. My thoughts on why I will not bring up here and leave it at that. Honestly, given the movies we got with DC outside Joker and Nolan's first two Batman films, their track record isn't the greatest and Batgirl looked like more of the same IMO.

[@AMore429]

Saved us the agony of that masterpiece 😅

[@sandstormxx]

I really struggle to believe this movie was THAT bad. At it's worse it was no more bad than a slightly dull superhero movie, and plenty of those have been released! But it would have been someone's favourite movie, and it's a shame that it's never seen the light of day.

[@LoganMcNay]

I'm glad they canned it. If it's bad don't release bad work.

[@FrameVoyager]

And just to be clear here... We're trusting that Warner Brothers executives know what good content is?

[@jordanwhite352]

*cough*The flash*cough*

[@theartist359]

You forgot to mention batgirl's appearance in the Batman and Robin movie. I mean I don't blame you for forgetting, but if you want to be accurate then, you know...

[@LuisSierra42]

I feel sad for the people who worked on it but for what i've seen of the movie I would not watch it. The suit doesn't look good and it has generic vibes

[@FrameVoyager]

True but it is an origin story so maybe the suit is generic because she's just getting into it? Also, half the time they replace the suits in post anyways nowadays lol

[@JRKonungrinn]

I hope it gets leaked and sells tons of bootleg discs. F*** Discovery WB.

[@nope53926]

Probably for the best. My guess is the film was so aggressively woke it became a parody of itself angering both audiences.

[@jhmcd2]

One thing I hate when people talk about this movie is that, they make the mistake in thinking this was the only near or even completed movie to get shelved. No, in fact, its not even close, with some thinking the first movie to get finished but not released happened way back in the 1930s. Pluto Nash tends to be a good example. Even though it was released (and made $9 million dollars total) it was supposed to have never been released with even star Eddie Murphy having disowned the film long before it came out. Now yes, it did come out, but only after sitting on a self for years, and only because the studio wanted the loss for a tax write off. So even back in the 90s, this was a thing. In fact, KZbin has a number of never released films on it that got leaked after studios collpased. I think a few of the rumors were correct. 1. It was cancled because it actually wasn't that good 2. It was cancled because all of DCs female centered properties sans Wonder Women had flopped up to that point, and 3. They were going to reboot the entire universe anyway, so why finish making a movie that was going to effectively be trash anyway. But there was a 4th reason. Early rumors had it they wanted to reboot the origin for Batgirl in the newer Gunn lead universe. So they were going to essentually bring these people back, but with that new universe in mind...but I think that idea is DOA after The Flash. Honestly, and I know this sounds sexist, but the only reason anyone cared about Batgirl being cut was because it stared a woman at a time when women were supposedly not getting the screen time. That's why. There were dozens of other shows left on the floor by this one even and no one cared. But this is life in Hollywood, so despite people feelings being hurt, it's nothing new.

[@fuguestatetoo6789]

figured this fell under the "use-it or lose-it" clause. where studios will make a crap movie, and shelve it, in order to keep the rights to the property, and block other studios from picking it up, and risk them finessing it into a success.

[@plinden]

Whats up with that, so a female director should not work on a film with males? Like sex segregation Talibans?

[@scooblov]

9:42 that’s why they block you. Company makes a decision you don’t like? You tried to steal and bootleg your own film. You did work, but you also got paid and you know who bankrolled it, so who actually owned the product.