Franchi SPAS-12 at the Range

[@BunkerFox]

I hear it's great for home defence, along with the Uzi 9mm and the phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range

[@displacedyankee7819]

No .45 long slide with laser sight??

[@B3RyL]

For home defence shotgun I prefer the Parncor Jackhammer. SPAS-12 has the modifier of +9 to Cool, but Jackhammer has +10 to Cool and Legendary rarity.

[@ArnoSchmidt70]

...and the Desert Eagle.

[@Ren505nm]

"YOU CAN'T DO THAT" "WRONG" 💥

[@Joedirt3349]

Just what you see, pal

[@kellanaldous7092]

Man the sound of the shells going into the magazine is so iconic.

[@just_zone]

The sound of the action is so iconic!

[@billy56081]

Tim Walz was trying to make that sound!

[@manitoba-op4jx]

half life 2 is free right now bc of the 20th anniversary

[@foxgloves321]

It sounds like a giant iron stamp being applied

[@Hysteria98]

Far Cry 2 once again the most realistic-sounding example of it. Not entirely there, but I recognised it immediately and it took me aback considering the amount of games I have heard this gun in but FC2 is the only one that audibly appears here.

[@henrya3530]

Having owned a SPAS-12 I discovered that the *size* of the shot was immaterial; what mattered was the *weight* of the shot in a shell. 1 1/8oz loads and above would work reliably and consistently. 1oz loads worked some of the time but were unreliable. Less than 1oz loads would not cycle the action. It may be more accurate to describe the SPAS-12 in automatic mode as a "recoil assisted gas operated" OR "gas assisted recoil operated" weapon which I guess makes it even more unusual.

[@ayegame2424]

I second these findings as well

[@scherry9198]

Thirded.

[@Jesses001]

The powder load seems rather important too. Not specifically with the SPAS, but semi-auto shotguns in general, I find 1oz loaded to 1200fps MIGHT cycle, 1oz loaded to 1500fps or more WILL cycle. Interesting enough, I found you could go too far. I had 2oz turkey loads that were rather hot, and some of the recoil operated shotguns would not pick up the next round. I suspect the bolt speed was too high so the magazine was not feeding fast enough. Shotguns can be such finicky things.

[@DRum886]

It really depends on what type of semi-auto you have, too. Inertia based systems can short cycle easily if you don't brace it properly. The gas operated ones much more ammo dependent like the SPAS here.

[@manitoba-op4jx]

makes sense

[@natedetailscars]

I always loved how this gun sounded in video games, didn't realize that heavy action actually sounded that way irl.

[@JPR3D]

Yeah same, the sound of the action is really distinct

[@bigguy7353]

A video isn't real life.

[@irishijo1]

​@@bigguy7353And neither are picture books, but they still provide an understanding of how things actually are.

[@dogevanzandt2889]

​@@bigguy7353goddamn dude shut up

[@dusty30328]

Yep, pretty accurate.

[@ChubbsterBrown]

Man I never thought the sound of a firearm’s action could be so delightful to hear. The cycling of the bolt and the clacking of the loading gate, ooo. Who’d have thought such a beefy “function over form” weapon could be so perfect.

[@fruitbat4429]

Tbf, while the SPAS-12 was seriously over-engineered, everything on it had a function. Even if that function, and yes I am looking at you Mr Hook, was a little wierd.

[@adamwebster9784]

Yeeeeeessss

[@WormsMaster100]

Rise and shine Mr. Ian, rise and...shine

[@classicbandgeek]

Wake up and.... smell the ashes

[@r3dmanMIC]

Today is the 20th anniversary of Half-Life 2. Good day to have this video.

[@rsmstudio4634]

I search this comment

[@rsmstudio4634]

​@@r3dmanMIC Ian knows how to post on time

[@Pilvenuga]

just like Jesus, you will know him by his first name

[@MedvedYevrey]

On the Jurassic Park theory, I am of the firmly held belief that he ditched the SPAS-12 because he was out of ammo not that it stovepiped. It was also loaded with high brass slugs, evident by the 3 singular holes in the glass, 3 separate shots heard over the phone and the last hull being seen in the action. This has been my TED talk, thanks for reading

[@alexsetterington3142]

Thank you I knew bird shot for dino was ridiculous. I think any 12 guage would be unless it automatic but at least slug is bit more realistic.

[@MedvedYevrey]

@ buckshot would work on anything smaller than a Triceratops in the first movie from a deterrent to outright kill

[@nicolaandria522]

Probably there is a deleted scene that explains the "mystery".

[@bosknight7837]

@@alexsetterington3142Buckshot would absolutely eviscerate something like a velociraptor tho,they’re not that big

[@FuzedBox]

@@bosknight7837 Even the movies' exaggerated-sized raptors would fall to some good double aught buck. The real things were so small that you could just kick one away like it's your neighbor's annoying chihuahua.

[@howiefuzz6894]

The "Clever Girl" intro made my day.

[@Tr4wnet]

I dont get it

[@martist911wasits-not-real4]

​@@Tr4wnetJurassic Park movie scene

[@chrismeandyou]

thought he we being quiet because hunting wabbits

[@Tr4wnet]

@@martist911wasits-not-real4 oh

[@Uncle_Roadkill]

Wrong hat

[@benjaminstudlar1630]

From a serious introduction, ammunition testing to bad-ass-single-handed-blasting, that would make even the terminator proud! Ian McCollum is a very versatile specialist.

[@asdf456ghj]

This is why Gordon freeman uses his pump all day. Actually today is 20th anniversary for half life 2, which was also featured in 'gun expert react' by ian. How coincidence!

[@Menaceblue3]

I heard half life 3 is coming out soon

[@sntslilhlpr6601]

Great docu on HL2 on the Valve channel rn. Great bunch of guys, still dunno why they couldn't quite squeeze out a 3.

[@bobhill3941]

​@@Menaceblue3I think Arnold Schwarzenegger used one in Terminator to kill the gun store owner.

[@creepyendy]

Half Life 2 is currently free to grab on Steam

[@ongoingrhyme57]

just in time for the hl2 anniversary!

[@MythicMagus]

An "infestation of Velociraptors"? That sounds like a crisis of dinosaurs to me.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

You might even call it a Dino Crisis...

[@junibug6790]

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 I would call it a Residence of Evil, myself.

[@silverwings21]

@@junibug6790 Better than being Alone In The Dark.

[@F3ST3Rfilms]

​@@silverwings21Not just any dark, Perfect Dark.

[@classicgameguides]

When the Parasite showed on the Eve of Christmas.

[@number23br]

Now you have to do The Terminator...SPAS in one hand and an Armalite AR-18 in the other!

[@jameshealy4594]

He'll need quite a few volunteers for that scene

[@ackwedamm_5623]

The mechanical cycling of the semi automatic spas is probably on the top ten most satisfying sounds

[@ABlaz3d]

As the owner of two Spas 12. A reliable way of getting them to cycle is to look the rated velocity on the box, My Spas will only cycle at around shells rated 1300FPS and above. Any lower or light, I will put into pump action.

[@yowie0889]

Have you fired both at once at some point (one each arm, hooks deployed)?

[@ABlaz3d]

@yowie0889 Yes

[@yowie0889]

@@ABlaz3d Outstanding!

[@glenstg]

Film that and put in on KZbin

[@ABlaz3d]

@@glenstg Done

[@PerfidiousAlbion1815]

You hit all the problems I had with Ammo when I owned one of these 35 years ago. High power hunting rounds worked fine in auto especially Winchester. Buckshot was limited in availability in the UK and we used Ely Alphamax, but the cases when fired were too long to eject when fired, and were designed for a hunting double or pump gun. Federal power shock and Ely short magnum BB worked like a dream…but expensive…

[@bibblebob]

There’s still a few 2+1 restricted guns that can be bought on SGC rather than FAC. I often wondered whether this could be used in semi with standard birdshot loads for clays (with the knowledge it’s only for the hilarity/handicap factor of using something totally impractical). This video answers that question!

[@justsam100]

I mean, it makes sense. It was never intended as a hunting or sporting gun. It's military hardware, designed with military grade ammunition in mind.

[@MrCyphermonkey]

The hook may also be handy if you also have a ballistic shield on your other arm.

[@604116]

That was actually part of the sales pitch for the High Standard Model 10. It's shown in the brochure, along with a dozen other ways you use a free hand while holding your special one-handed shotgun. I wonder what was behind this being a trend in the '70s.

[@manitoba-op4jx]

@@604116 idk why it went away. if the original dawn of the dead is any metric a free hand is really useful

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

@@manitoba-op4jx Revolvers are far more typically used for riot shield applications nowadays, from my knowledge. Lighter, powerful with the right loading, can use right up against target, doesn't have a long barrel to grab at close quarters, and you can actually aim with it with a shield up. Assuming they even have a gun, as a lot of the times they have a baton, taser, or just the shield for actual riot usage.

[@simtexa]

Or for dual-wielding them while blasting your way through very large numbers of PMC troopers in slow-motion

[@Laundry_Hamper]

That sound is so incredibly good. Actually, both sounds are, automatic sounds badass, and manual mode sounds maybe even more badass.

[@FIUMan-tk4iz]

I've owned a SPAS-12 and a Benelli M3. My analysis was that the SPAS-12 was a flashier gun but the M3 could do everything the SPAS-12 could do but with the much better, more comfortable Benelli stock. The SPAS-12 got sold off and the M3 is still in my collection.

[@ash.7470]

the sound of the bolt cycling is so satisfying when it works

[@paleoph6168]

3:17 To further build on that theory, despite stovepipes being usually easy to clear, Dr. Grant likely did not have the knowledge on such, so once the shotgun stopped working, it was no longer fight for him, but flight. Source: IMFDB (there is even a screenshot showing said stovepipe in the page) And to add my own explanation, there's the fact that the raptors were already breaking through the windows. He was better off escaping with the rest than attempting solve the issue.

[@AJadedLizard]

I just take issue with Muldoon stocking the Park with loads that wouldn't reliably cycle the shotguns, especially since in the novel he has them outfitted with what appear to be Carl Gustav Reccoilles Rifles instead.

[@CornishMoose]

That assumes the SPAS-12 was his choice, like in the book it could have been a case of Hammond forcing him to downgrade the arsenal. The other thing to consider is that Muldoon may not have worried about the rounds not cycling, as he could just use (and train others to use) the shotgun in pump mode.

[@AJadedLizard]

@@CornishMoose At that point you'd be better off with a pump action to begin with, though. What's really odd is that the Wranglers are also seen outfitted with M16A2s in the opening sequence. If it were me, I'd probably prefer that to _any_ shotgun, even one loaded with slugs, as the ones at Jurassic Park seem to have been (if you look at the bullet holes in the glass, it looks to me like single projectiles).

[@bennettfender9927]

@@AJadedLizardActually for large animals a shotgun with slugs is far more preferable than the 5.56 rounds that the m16 uses.

[@AJadedLizard]

@@bennettfender9927 The M16A2 has a substantially higher capacity and rate of fire for only a marginally worse amount of imparted energy. The M16 is also a substantially easier to fire and load than any shotgun.

[@davidpyle7333]

7:30 ATF just reclassified the SPAS as a braced-pistol ...

[@martist911wasits-not-real4]

They'd ban booger hooks if they could ​@ImBlackjackYo

[@Blackpapalink]

Hopefully we get Brandon Herrera as ATF director... It will be glorious if that came to pass.

[@Brewhahh]

1:07 holy moly mono audio. only comes from the left

[@tryzmsotryll]

dude i thought it was just me nobody else mentioned it

[@bobjackson4287]

"The 12g auto loader." "That's Italian, it can go pump or auto."

[@fwfs]

(loads a shell) "Hey! You can't do that!" "WRONG!" *BOOM*

[@tuomasvattulainen476]

T 1👍

[@eddavis1832]

My two most memorable days of owning a SPAS-12: 1) The day I bought it, 2) The day I sold it!

[@longshot7601]

When the choice was a SPAS-12 or a Benelli M1 Super 90 I made the wrong choice by going with the SPAS. After a year I realized my mistake and sold the SPAS and bought the Benelli which had gone up in price. Guns are like girlfriends, don't get them just on looks alone.

[@daneaxe6465]

Totally understand what and why you're saying that.

[@hoilst265]

So, these are the boats of guns?

[@Zayphar]

This is right at the borderlne between cool and stupid.

[@snape1464]

I think there is actually some overlap :p

[@BlackCat-tc2tv]

Cupid? Stool?

[@GARDENER42]

On the cool side are cupid stunts, whereas on the other side... 😁

[@604116]

Any sufficiently advanced stupid is indistinguishable from cool.

[@daneaxe6465]

I was hot for a Spas when it was introduced.....until I got to handle one. Total reject. Too heavy, too bulky, too untested by time, too clumsy, terrible ergonomics and TOO MUCH money_$$$$$.

[@ibannymous]

The hook also allowed a LEO to hang the shotgun from the cruiser's bench seatback and hang at the ready for instant use.

[@TW-SB]

This, hands-down, is one of the best channels ever. The quality and quantity of your content is amazing.

[@YouTube.Is.Run.By.Terrorists]

Ian is out here doing *all* the gun side-quests.

[@Oddball_E8]

It's too bad KZbin is doing everything they can to kill off channels like this. (And that's coming from a leftist pro gun-control guy)

[@DreadNought0255]

That last shot triggered a memory of a Jurassic Park game I played a decade ago called Trespasser. You played as a female journalist after a plane crash if I remember right and the game's gimmick was that you had full control over every part of your arm that you used to interract with the world. The other arm was broken so unusable. To aim any gun you picked up you had to manually bend your wrist and elbow to see down the sights.

[@Stealthgato]

Man, I instantly thought of that as well. How wobbly it looked when Ian one-handed it was just like I remember the game. Internet high-five!

[@AshleyPomeroy]

I had that game. There was a key that tried to align the sights but it was janky as heck. And most of the guns were G3s and other long rifles that the main character - voiced by Minnie Driver, before she was famous - could hold one-handed all day long, because she was superhuman.

[@Pilvenuga]

@@AshleyPomeroy a long rifle like a G3 is pretty easy to fire one handed, given sufficent upper body strength. doing so, accurately is something i've yet to see though no matter how experienced or strong a guy trying it is

[@alexsetterington3142]

I looked like would be so cool to me as a kid but couldn't get it working properly. I remember picking up a revolver and she says "hmm heavier than I thought it'd be" and I think picking up some kind of Mac or Uzi and starting on raised helipad and a code box on fence or gate. That is about all.

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

I remember a comment on Ian's AR-18+180 video that described it as being like a cult film that a generation of directors took influence from, but basically no one else actually watched. Trepasser is basically that for video games.

[@theshotgunscientists]

The problem with the fiocchi exacta buckshot is that even though it says 00 buck, it’s actually 9 pellets of #1 buck, giving you a payload of under an ounce. And while the box says 1325 fps, if you chrono them in a 18.5” or 20” barrel you’ll see they are moving a lot slower at about 1180 to 1220. In other words, they are very very light loads.

[@randomfaca]

so thats how Gordon Freeman could shoot a spas12 while climbing up stairs

[@asdf84421]

Thank you for your service

[@illegalclown]

I kinda regret not getting one of these when I would see these used in stores 15-20 years ago. They were cool and I loved them in movies and games, but everyone online was saying how terrible they were. I had the money, but at the time I felt I could get something better for the price. I was more into surplus, but I could get a better top of the line shotgun for less.

[@GunnyO326]

Everyone was having problems with them likely because everyone were likely trying to run the cheapest Wal-Mart bulk birdshot through it. I could never understand why anyone would pay a premium for a top tier gun and then try to run the cheapest ammo money can buy through it. This is what happened with the FN FNP-45. People paid 1200+ for the gun then tried to run the cheap WWB through it. WWB .45 is slightly out of NATO specs and won't properly fit in the FNP, which was designed around NATO spec ammo and is why we now have the FNX series.

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Buying silly guns is a credible investment strategy 😂

[@illegalclown]

@@tomwinterfishing9065 Yeah, I have plenty of silly gimmicky guns that I bought for fun or because they were cool. They were cheap though, or at least of good quality if they were expensive. At the time the SPAS wasn't super collectable. I probably spent the money on an SVT or early SP1 AR.

[@dunkelgelb7744]

8:55 - "Urraaaaagh. (*BLAM* *BLAM *BLAM*) Hooo." - Ian McCollum, 2024

[@simtexa]

One of few weapons made that both sounds, looks, and works as well IRL as it does in video games.

[@Harry_Ballzonya]

The sound of that action is iconic

[@terryjennings2356]

As soon as you started to demonstrate the hook, I started screaming "Get a second and dual wield them!!"

[@cormoran2303]

In the JP footage it looks like Alan at least switched to manual to try and cycle the shell, but may have actually been out of ammo.

[@thatfordguy2268]

I've also notice on the game "Dead Island" when you use any pump action shotgun, it mimics the sound of the SPAS. Right down to the cash register ching when charging rounds😎

[@AliasArkine215]

Thats not a forgotten weapon thats the best shotgun ever made and i will have one one day i swear

[@shawnc5188]

4:56 I read this box as “@uck and Peasant”.

[@PosranaRegistrace]

You are not the only one😁

[@Se7enBeatleofDoom]

Officer Tenpenny's last stand against CJ and Grove Street families.

[@coreymerrill3257]

if you simply want a top folding stock for your 870 or Mossberg , Choate machine and tool makes them and a variety of other stocks for a variety of firearms that are surprisingly high quality.

[@patrickcarrillo714]

Pumping the action on this beast sounds AWESOME very intimidating

[@kingbertie]

Really interesting weapon revues. Watching them is always time well spent. On the subject of the 'hook'. In a gun mag article I read from way back around the time the SPAS 12 was first being revued, the purpose of the hook was described as being to enable stable one handed use when abseiling... a 'cops chasing robbers in a getaway car shooting out of the window' scenario was not being suggested as a potential use at that time.

[@Stealth86651]

I hope that Jurassic Park reference always stays with the SPAS 12

[@tychothefriendlymonolith]

Or the "its a f___ing anti aircraft gun Vincent" from Snatch.

[@Marcelis]

@@tychothefriendlymonolithgreat film.😊

[@yowie0889]

@@tychothefriendlymonolith Sol: Tyrone's done a rally driving course, aint you Tyrone? Tyrone: Course I have

[@adamwebster9784]

I cannot get over how COOL that action sounds!!!! I can't believe it is real!

[@My-Pal-Hal]

That Is A Fun Gun 🤗 Pump was for ejecting failed rounds, and for slugs.

[@jollyjohnzz]

Thanks

[@bobhill3941]

The SPAS 12 was so cool in Jurassic Park, but even moreso, it's been a staple of videogame arsenals for over 25 years (mostly as a loadout) A friend of mine had a copy of Goldeneye with all the cheats and we were playing it summer of '97 and the SPAS was "the semiautomatic shotgun" I used it again in '99 in The world is not enough and GTA III in 2004. It was always configured in game with the stock folded over the top of the receiver with buckshot in manual mode. (Interestingly, the forearm was light green and perforated) As demonstrated by Ian, manual mode was used by police to cycle light "less lethal" loads. I saw one for real at a gun show in 2008.

[@martin2514]

Its the legnth of the shotgun cartridge. Some say 67mm case, however if you measure it its not. It mainly happens on the cheaper ammo. Slightly longer ones too. As long as you run the right legnth shotgun cartridge, the gun runs fine. The same issue happens on the Benillie M3 SEMI AUTOM PUMP shotgun. Its not always the power of the cartridge.

[@briochepanda]

4:55 What Pheasant-?! Unfortunate finger placement there for a moment. 😅

[@hoilst265]

He's not a pheasant ducker - he's a pheasant ducker's son.

[@simtexa]

Funnily, the hook thing would allow you to dual-wield SPAS-12s like the protagonist in Trepang 2 (although in that game, they are only used pump-action)

[@Yupppi]

I think this video demonstrated to Ian why in so many occasions you could see people cycling SPAS despite it being automatic. Seems like you need proper cannon balls to cycle this one.

[@DSS-jj2cw]

I never understood how the zookeeper in Jurassic Park thought a 12 gauge was enough stopping power to stop a Velociraptor. (Actually a Deinonychus)

[@davemcdaniel4856]

In the book it's because Hammond refused to allow Muldoon to have anything better. The thought was each dinosaur cost tens of millions and he didn't want them hurt. Most everyone got air powered tranq guns. Near the end they found Muldoon secret stash with high-powered auto rifles, grenades, and used then on the raptor nests. The movie tried to nod to the book as much as possible.

[@DSS-jj2cw]

@davemcdaniel4856 Thanks! Interesting.

[@JasonJones-zn2os]

00, 000, or Slugs would be perfectly adequate for Deinonychus. Proof positive: Shotguns are for birds.

[@SnoopReddogg]

I never got the whole premise of Jurassic Park. Why protect a potentially invasive feral pest once control of the park was lost. Too much of an animal rights ideology going on there for this committed duck shooter

[@deknegt]

​@@SnoopReddogg They were on an island and the weapons they had were already there. Except they only had the lightest of weapons, because the assumption was that the park was perfectly safe and containment could never fail. It's an actually interesting plot piece that has some bearing in real life workplace politics, where an executive overrules the expert's recommendations because they're led both by hubris (it can't fail) and greed (the dinos are more valuable than the people) rather than practical knowledge (You need to be prepared for every contingency)

[@5metalacid1]

-Special- …….ah *_Sporting_* Purpose Automatic Shotgun 😉🇮🇹

[@Kr0nicDragon]

Aahh good ole “recreational” ammunition, I keep it right next to my recreational sword and recreational flame thrower.

[@mpetersen6]

Along with the recreational mortar.

[@lardomcfarty9866]

Are you saying people can't shoot recreationally? Or what's your point?

[@distalradius8146]

I have a recreational sword. I have a friend with a recreational flamethrower. I have another friend with a recreational mortar (but no HE, sadly).

[@metalgeardull8279]

Here so early, the thumbnail is missing.

[@randroid1019]

same lol

[@DavidCowie2022]

I saw it in the first 15 minutes. No thumbnail, but I still had adverts. EDIT: "23 minutes ago" and now there's a thumbnail. Boring! EDIT 2: Hours later, there's a proper thumbnail on my Xbox, but still a grey rectangle on my iPad and iPhone.

[@azrifmatsaman9845]

same here, thought the vid got 404' lol

[@TheRogueWolf]

The thumbnail is hiding in the tall grass.

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

It’s a new tax☹️

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Love the Robert Muldoon reference at the beginning

[@alexsetterington3142]

The former N.Z prime minister? I never realized that was the hunters name.

[@jeremywells9019]

There is also a consideration with these for running different loads at the same time. For example a breaching shell in the chamber, which runs pumped then switched quickly to something that runs semi-auto for clearing rooms after breaching etc. You could run things like signal shells manually loaded as needed on the empty chamber then switch to semi after pumping the empty out.

[@Paughco]

You gotta say, "I'll be back." when you shoot that thing with the arm-hook feature engaged. OK - the three coolest shotgun/firearm-type weapons are the SPAS-12, the High Standard Model 10-B, and the Remington TAC-14. I saw your famous "chicken wing" video on the TAC-14, and thoroughly enjoyed this little adventure with the SPAS-12. How about a trip to the range with a Model 10-B?

[@tylerwilliams6022]

Anyone remember this being used in the Wraith? During the scene shooting up the cars in the garage. Use to love this movie as a kid! It was always on HBO in the late 80s early 90s

[@RIGman0497]

6:44 It's not quite cycling all the ωᗩ𝓪Δ𝔸ⓐ𝓐Ƴ 🤣

[@CooperHudgins]

The opening would’ve been better if someone appeared right next to you in one of those inflatable T. rex costumes😂

[@JordanFlayer]

it was discussed

[@martinfisker7438]

I love that in some videos Ian is nerding out about history in periodically correct clothes... in others he's shooting a spas 12 one handed

[@elitedavidhorne8494]

Ian never misses a chance for cosplay.

[@ComicGladiator]

Except the hook is specifically designed for one-handed shooting if needed?

[@Frankmiller05]

Task and purpose just made a "Clever Girl" reference today too😂

[@TheNinjaDC]

No joke. That stock unfolding scene from Jurassic Park was burned into my young, impressionable mind as a kid. And I directly contribute it as the root to all my interest in firearms.

[@edgarnewberry-cw4ld]

I bought a spas 12 at the Cincinnati gun show in 1980. I was in love with until a few months later when a friend bought the benelli super 90 M1 (which was a collaboration between Benelli and HK). The shine faded quickly from the SPAS 12. It's a piece of history now, but the Benelli M series shotguns shine on!

[@dlmsarge8329]

But still . . .. the look of envy on the faces of the other shooters on the range must have made it fun to own!!

[@stonehengeman]

Fascinating. I remember being trained on this and the consensus was “great for photos - useless for fighting”.

[@connorgoonman9500]

The feeding and extracting tribulations remind me of tuning the recoil rings on my grandpa’s old Browning A5.

[@sskuk1095]

9:03 Missed the opportunity to say "If you wanna be hooked to this gun!"

[@ElmoUnk1953]

1:23 Velociraptors, if I had a nickel for every velociraptor I engage daily… I wouldn’t have any nickels. 🤷🏻‍♂️😁

[@celtisafricana4984]

Clearly, you aren't a chicken farmer 🦖

[@ElmoUnk1953]

@ 🤣😂 I hadn’t considered that.

[@celtisafricana4984]

@@ElmoUnk1953 😁🐓

[@Oilcancap]

8:55: Guardsmen: but their talons are sharper than blades! The Commisar:

[@nmatters]

Yes! was waiting for this!

[@WolfoftheWoods02]

Bob Peck who uttered that immortal line was a brilliant British actor who should be remembered for the way ahead of it's time Edge of Darkness BBC drama show, in which you see him with a Sig P210 and a 2' snub .38 revolver and Joe Don Baker playing Darius Jedburgh who carries a 4' S&W Model 19. Hint Hint Ian do a show of these forgotten weapons

[@hydroplaneing]

Yep, I have one. “Stock sucks” is an understatement. Gives seriously bruised shoulder.

[@Ajibica117]

If you ever want to do some testing with an 18in gun that runs bird shot reliably and a bunch of extras, let me know!

[@donny8619]

That was a fun video to watch!

[@jakobperkin7417]

maybe the coolest sounding action ever. that metallic clang is awesome

[@hunter_0221]

I like that some of the main critique points of the weapon are its heaviness and unwieldy nature (which, I suspect, are actually the reasons for its popularity in Hollywood), but I gotta say that they worked around these issues quite well. The fact that you can shoot it one-handed comparatively easily just proves that.

[@ToddHavel]

This is where a pump gun shines, no frills just reliable. A benelli sbe2 will work with anything, very reliable after broken in, even 7/8 ounce loads. Amazing, very expensive nowadays. Having both pump and auto together, complicates your manual of arms. Non-lethal loads belong in a dedicated pump perhaps painted in a very identifiable color.

[@hondolane3125]

This is what you want to sort out on the range. When I shot 2 and 3 gun competition with my Benelli M1 Super 90, I used 1 1/8 ounces of #2 lead shot over Hercules Red Dot powder. I found I had short stroking often at 17.5 grains of powder, but none at 18 grains, so I made my competition loads with 19 grains - a fairly stout small game field load, but with huge shot. That was perfect, except for one time when I was clearing the gun fast by dumping the last two rounds before discarding it to switch to my handgun. As I fired from the hip loosely while lowering the gun to a mat, the gun was able to "run away" from the bolt, and it didn't eject the last empty, it just fell shut with the empty in the chamber. The Benelli is more tolerant of that than a Browning Auto-5, but not, as I found, immune. I just caught a minor penalty, as there was no live ammo in the gun. That was just one of many invaluable lessons I learned (without real consequences) in competition and why I suggest getting into it for people who really want to be proficient. It is nothing like being on a bi-directional range, and it is a "game", so not as beneficial as many training courses you can take, but it's worlds better than just standing at that range booth shooting a target.

[@shawnr771]

A friend of mine had one of these in the late 1980s. His did EXACTLY what this one did in the video when he first shot it using target loads. When he switched to Manual Mode, it never fired in semi automatic again. He had failed to READ THE MANUAL. It clearly stated that the punp was to only be used in Emergency Situations. The manual stated the weapon had to be worked on by a certified gunsmith to replace the seals after using the pump. At the time in Washington state there were no certified gunsmiths. I dont know if he ever got it fixed.

[@markelliot1248]

Great video. Issue I have with it though is that the size of the pellets going downrange is not really a measure of the amount of recoil firing it will create, it is the total weight of the load and to some extent the powder. 30 grams of birdshot will have more recoil that 24 grams of buckshot.

[@Zakk_Zero]

"Clever girl." Well done. 🙂 Excellent boom-stick video. Thank you for making this. 👍

[@misiekmisuek4421]

Awesome as usual. Merci beaucoup.

[@BuffaloDoctor]

Vinny: "This is a shotgun, Sol" Sol: "It's a fucking anti-aircraft gun, Vincent!" - Snatch, 2000

[@yowie0889]

Tyrone: I didn't see it there. Vinny: It's a four ton truck, Tyrone. Its not as if it's a packet of fucking peanuts, is it? Tyrone: It was a funny angle. Vinny: It's behind you Tyrone. Whenever you reverse, things come from behind you.

[@peteraustin9057]

Funny that he kept going up the chain of larger and larger birds in terms of ammo, if he had kept going he would have technically eventually reached velociraptors

[@Azraith]

That "Ohhh" when the Spas failed to cycle when he was doing his big 'hanging out the door' impression is the most dejected I think I've ever heard Ian in any of these videos.

[@matthaught4707]

It's such a fascinating snapshot of the school of thought around fighting shotguns of that era. Yeah, we know better now, but the reason we know better is often that people tried throwing stuff at the wall to see what worked and what didn't.

[@billhacks]

I always assumed that the hook was to allow a free hand for a shield if needed

[@redcat9436]

This is one of the best episodes ever.

[@chrismccauley3158]

Thanks!

[@archpriest6]

It's called a Shepherd's crook, Ian. Shot a SPAS-12 with a group of USG reps when the gun was first imported back in the day.

[@Pilvenuga]

firing a shotgun one handed is the one universal flex everyone seems to think of independently no matter the situation they're in, at least with the SPAS-12 its somewhat practical

[@cynthiakoehne7004]

Yea I too was going to be Gordon Freeman; I was a Half - Life TFC admin in several clans at the time most notably TFC/DNA clan, boy do I miss those days!

[@Dorngrunder]

Haha the intro 😅 just took a fraction of a second to realize what he was doin😅 love it

[@Rileysworld727]

Ian shooting he spaz one handed is the most 80s thing ive seen all day

[@legitimatehumanbeing8746]

Ian, please never stop.

[@giarcsavage]

firing a SPAS-12 one handed: you've earned a gold star on your man card, with oak clusters for the snappy hat!