The ULTIMATE Long Range Hunting Rifle?! - .300 SUPER WSM

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

I love seeing people get as excited to use our products as I am to make them! There is about a 15 to 20% chance I cut the rifling into that barrel! Great project, guys!

[@joshhomer4367]

Good stuff. You guys need to do a 20” or 22” 1:8 .308!

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

@joshhomer4367 As far as barrels go, if you order it, we will make it.

[@chipsterb4946]

@@MTMILITIAMAN7.62I want to thank you and your co-workers for the .308 Winchester barrel for my Fix rifle. On the second outing I got a 0.6” 5-shot group and a 0.52” 6-shot group at 100 yards with Federal GM factory ammunition. That is the most accurate rifle I own now, and I haven’t even started handloading for it. Did just get some Alpha brass…

[@duckwacker8720]

​@@joshhomer4367not really

[@RG-pd1ro]

got a 6 ARC based on ryans input, now after the tikka episode and this video, i might end up with a 300 WSM too! Fave podcast to listen to while I fix cars all day

[@mikekropidlowski1237]

I also just put together a 16" 6arc due to Ryan, he is a terrible influence.

[@dionysis84]

Hahaha, I’m just finishing up a 16” 6 ARC build. I think it’s the perfect cartridge for an intermediate AR build with a mpvo & piggyback dot. It packs more punch & distance than the 5.56 but you don’t need to use a different lower & not nearly as heavy as an AR10. I also had a custom all carbon tikka done in 300wsm specifically for elk. It’s just about perfection honestly.

[@Honkers716]

I already own a 300wsm but I got a 6 ARC also. Pull the trigger

[@BigTuna8504]

Perfect shooting form by both and really phenominal accuracy. I love seeing the guys show they aren't just commentators, they are the real deal.

[@44regzula]

O my gosh I love this episode. I've been eyeing up those 212 LRX bore-riders for a hunting rig build since I first saw them earlier this year, and you guys nailed it

[@ryancloward7394]

Can we PLEASE have an episode of Ryan just absolutely nerd out for a whole episode about the Sherman wildcats.

[@EternalClimb]

This is literally the exact rig I want to build! So excited to see what kind of velocities you're getting!

[@mattcomchoc2957]

Finally a channel that acknowledges Clear ballistics is NOT gelatin. It is not water based like gelatin and muscle tissue is, and therefore projectiles designed specifically to open up when striking water based tissue will often not perform well in them

[@Dylan-jw8if]

100%. Clear gel will always produce under-expanded bullets compared to 10% ballistic gel (animal based).

[@DavidTibbs-t6f]

I had a rifle custom built to these specs 5 years ago. 300 wsm on a long action, HS Precision stock, kreiger heavy barrel 1:10 twist with brake, jewel adj. trigger set a 4 oz. Vortex 5x25x50 Viper PST gen 2. The heaviest round used has been 200 gr Hornady ELDX. Handloads 5000ths off lands and grooves. Hold roughly 2” group at 1k yds. I’ve been using the 300wsm platform since 1997. Best game rifle I’ve ever owned.

[@keithprinn720]

what game requires such grunt? and how difficult to get a tag or cost to go to Africa or US game farm?

[@DavidTibbs-t6f]

I did not build it for hunting. It was built to shoot distance. This rifle weighs about 13-14 pounds. So, you will not want to lug this thing through the woods. With the glass it is closer to 15 pounds.

[@bfries555]

@@DavidTibbs-t6fyou said it is the best game rifle you've owned

[@rm70x7]

@@bfries555😂

[@365maga1]

🤔​@@bfries555

[@hugtango]

same concept with a 7SAUM basically applicable to any short action mag cartridge. but good to see the 300WSM coming back, let's not forget that Charles Greer : Charles Greer "chuckgreen" drilled a remarkable 2.862″ 100-10X group, beating all known 1000-Yard HG 10-shot records on the books. Greer’s .300 WSM can rightfully be hailed as the most accurate 1000-yard gun in history. He was using 220 grains berger hybrid. HE is the man behind that type of 300 WSM almost 4 years ago

[@edwardabrams4972]

And that’s why after 60+ years of hunting reloading and collecting hundreds of rifles I use the 300wsm in a Sako for my hunting 🙌

[@hugtango]

@@edwardabrams4972 nice 👌🏻

[@ItossSallad]

Tikka 300wsm was my first rifle, still have it but I've changed some things over the years. Its been my primary hunting rifle.

[@hugtango]

@@ItossSallad ahead of its time 2001... winchester knows how to design cartridges.

[@MichaelRandall-f1o]

Love my 300 wsm. Built this gun on a Remington 40 XBR action. With Rifle basic 2 1/2 lbs trigger on a Hogue over molded stock. My first group with 150 grain Nosler boat tail .700" . 180 grain Nosler Accubond going 3024 fps. This is my Elk round and rig.

[@gerardgoubel4169]

Le 300 wsm est surtout fait pour vendre du fusils, le 300WM avec canonnerie de 61 cm( 26 ”) excellent

[@andyweis5974]

Prob the best episode of cartridge talks ever! I own several rifles chambered in 300wsm. I'm interested in load data and what you guys used for powder. Also c.o.a.l. would be good . Some ppl don't realize how much goes into shooting this far. Keep up the good guys.

[@joshhomer4367]

Later in the next episode they mentioned just seating to edge of the bore diameter step

[@mikekropidlowski1237]

I'm glad that im not the only one watching the countdown, 67 other gun nuts waiting for this to start.

[@Accuracy1st]

I started this project in 2022. Have several 300WSM-Long now. It's excellent. 200 grain Federal Terminal Ascent around 2960 fps.

[@user-iz7zy7rx9t]

@@Accuracy1st why make several of the same rifle?

[@EternalClimb]

Barrel length?

[@Accuracy1st]

@@user-iz7zy7rx9t One is a Tikka, the rest are one rifle action - Terminus Zeus QC so I just have multiple barrels. One reason is different barrel contours, lengths, twist rates. I'm using Brux, Bartlein, ACE, and K&P barrels - all cut-rifled. So all I have to do is change barrels to continue my testing of different bullets and weights. So far, there's NO need for anything faster than a 9 twist for the 300WSM-long

[@Accuracy1st]

@@EternalClimb 24

[@edwardabrams4972]

@@user-iz7zy7rx9tWhy NOT😳 Can never have to many guns for one thing🙌 and you can test the loads with one gun and hunt with its twin without wearing out your hunting gun👏

[@chrishoff4729]

7's the key number! I love your subtle quotes from classic movies.

[@kentuckywindage222]

My shooting partner is running a 300 WM Lapua brass, Vithavuori, Federal Gold Medal match Mag primer, launching a 215 Berger Hybrid @3200 fps give or take. Kelbly action, custom reamer, Trigger Tech, Manners stock, Bartlien barrel, custom break. This rifle has been a shooter since day one. 1¼ " group, (3 shot) high ridge @ 725 yard's. At 1000 yard's shooting water filled milk jugs my 308 Win. 175gr SMK @2725 fps punched the jugs shaking it. We found the projectiles in the bank on the backside of the jug looking like banana's in shape. The 300 WM on the other hand was bursting the jugs of water and jumping 3 to 5 ft in the air. He has taken a few whitetail at that exact 725 target in season. Recoil is actually rather light. I should also mention the Bartlien barrel is a 30 incher. Still this set up with a NiteForce ATAC is absolute candy to look at and if the trigger man does his part, a laser to shoot.

[@gerry6.8]

Absolutely love the footage of the bullet's vapor trail 16:10. Cool build, I also think the 300 WSM is the best of all the 30 cal magnums.

[@Northernmormon]

I'd love to see some talk on the 358 Winchester as well. Maybe breathe some life back into the old 35 bores 😊

[@smoakngun]

I am really enjoying your content. The 6 ARC video was incredible. This video was its equal in every way. You cover the technical aspects in an entertaining way. Please keep them coming!!

[@kirlu50]

The question for most hunters is not which bullet and chambering. But whether you can make an ethical shot. I love the nerdery though 😊

[@danalove-q8r]

.300wsm fan since 2001. I ordered all my parts as soon as I saw the video. 1 in 8 twist from Bartlein Barrels, and a Lone Peak Arms rifle action. It's my 2024 Christmas present !! Great video. What reloading powder did you guys use ?? I was thinking H1000 but I also have some reloader 22...

[@Twistedoff2]

This is really incredible! A new cartridge that is significantly better, not just a bit different. I am wondering what kind of load work ups you did. What powder and charge, primer. Thanks again.

[@williambehrend5452]

So you know this means muckenhurn has to use this combo on his first elk hunt accompanying remi and mark for a trio of 300wsm enthusiasts

[@Saberlus]

I agree 100% with this

[@steeleaters]

Agreed, although he'll probably pull some magnificent falling block straight wall cartridge to shoot.

[@micmac6556]

Cant wait to see the full breakdown of this episode on the next podcast episode!

[@cc-hc1dr]

That's awesome. What was your case overall length? Velocity? Powder?

[@Jeffreyperez-rp6ow]

Great job guys !! Do you know what would make the Ultimate Cartridge Talk episode ? The .358win. Waiting, inquiring, cleverly hinting towards and basically begging for MULTIPLE, Consecutive months/episodes. Sincerely, jmp

[@boarwilde8805]

Great video. I would love to see a comparison between different types of target media. Especially balistic sope i remember an old rws hit/ evogreen ad which was pretty impressive

[@stephanlopez7640]

I’ve been looking at loading this for my 300prc so definitely excited to see your results overall! Curious as to what the OAL will be with the WSM as well.

[@gsnicholas8522]

Use a #9 Wyatt box so you can seat that bore rider out where it needs to be. With the Wyatt box and an 8 twist barrel, 3000 fps is easily attainable with a 300 PRC.

[@hoponpop7097]

Barnes lists a bore rider load for the wsm with coal at 3.475

[@Calvin-l6o]

Love you guys and all the content you produce! You always make me wish I was 35 yrs younger! Nebraska native!

[@donaldbougie694]

I have 2 300 wsm browning,one a-bolt-2 eclipse-m-1000,and other a-bolt 2 hunter fld,i like this 300 wsm very accurate,i have some receipes for reloads.Thanks for your video,i live in quebec,canada.

[@kylehosler9980]

Keep the awesome content coming fellas!!! Good work!!!

[@matttirado803]

I’d love to see a cartridge talks where you break down the different projectiles available and why you pick each one.

[@tommyj7087]

What is the COAL & velocity??? THIS is exactly what I have been looking for!

[@oldford71]

incredible stuff guys.. could we get the load data you used?

[@OliG-py1dx]

Wonder if this bullet would fit in a 30-06 or 300 wby with a longer action?

[@thepiedpiper-i7x]

Old news: around a decade ago, a guy in AB did the similar test at distances from 200 to 800 yrds if I remember right? He used a variety of bullets that were available at the time jn the heavier weights and none of the Barnes did open up past 300 yrds! All old-school lead-tipped bullets did open up at all distances though!

[@Jeffreyperez-rp6ow]

In 2 days !! On the bright side that gives you enough time to start on the .358win Cartridge Talk episode. jmp

[@js7127]

Or the .358 Norma Cartridge talk LOL!!! Would be fine with either, love the 35's

[@masonraley4585]

So the whole weapon was purpose built around a new projectile but how would you know if the rifle/barrel would like those particular rounds? We all know to try several loads when initial testing to see what each prefers but not here. You're the pro's- I was just curious

[@ryankoch3958]

The biggest reason we try several loads is because factory rifles have different twist rates and barrel harmonics, plus slight inconsistency’s in manufacturing tolerances in the throat and chamber mean it’s more of the style of bullet that you’re rifle likes. A heavy contour barrel and the big thing, the appropriate twist rate was used here for the 212’s so if everything was put together correctly there isn’t any reason it wouldn’t work. High end custom components really simplify the accuracy end and make load development a breeze, generally.

[@jfess1911]

The Short Magnums of the early 2000's really come alive when loaded much longer than their SAAMI specs. My main dislikes of the WSM series come from trying to use a big case while keeping the COAL to a short 2.86": most of the bullet ends up stuffed into the case and there is no section of parallel freebore in the chamber to assure bullet alignment with the bore*. I like the idea of using a long bore-riding section to load longer and properly align the bullet. *For those who don't know, both the 6.8 Western and 6.5 PRC were designed to fix those problems. Both used slightly shortened the cases of their .30 cal predecessors (300 WSM and 300 RCM) and a longer overall length + added parallel freebore to allow more of the bullet to extend from the front of the cases.

[@thepiedpiper-i7x]

6.8 Western is in fact the necked down 7 RSAUM!

[@jfess1911]

@@thepiedpiper-i7x Not quite, closer than the WSMs, but with a significantly longer overall length than the RSAUMS (2.955" vs 2.825"). TBH, I initially thought the same thing until I closely compared the SAAMI drawings. I suppose it would be accurate to say the 6.8 W was "heavily inspired by" the RSAUMS, which I had previously considered the best of the short mags in their SAAMI forms. Winchester had stubbornly avoided chambers with parallel freebore for decades and finally gave in on the 6.8 W.* The WSMs made the cases as large as possible, which meant reducing bullet projection from the case (head height). Win had always decided to just have a forcing-cone style chamber/throat. The compromise worked for marketing, since the WSMs held more powder and thus were faster than their slightly more accurate (or easier to tune) competitors. The magazine articles of the time fixated on that extra few fps velocity. * Well, the 308 Win had some fairly loose freebore, but it was based on the existing 7.62x51 and not really a clean-sheet Winchester design.

[@1bobharvey]

I have wanted to build a bullet slinger for that particular bullet for about a year... Good job guys.

[@Indarow]

That is an insane load! Massive performance at long range, excellent performance at close range and it looks like the recoil is relatively light! Monster load. Nice job guys.

[@stump3514]

Been looking for gel tests on this bullet for my 300 Norma

[@colemanpreston3462]

As a huge 6.5 PRC guy and a Barnes lover....pleaseeeee get Barnes to make a .264 platform bore rider! Im tired of cutting rifling out of my barrel to the point i cant shoot my low weight projectiles for varminting anymore.

[@KiLL3RabBit]

Ryan, Im going to need one of these and at least a general idea of load data for my next hunt

[@BadKarma.-]

Barnes has book data for it

[@carefulcasey543]

Am I correct in thinking you could run this setup in a Tikka without the expense of a custom rifle?

[@Sks1945]

All you gotta change is the bolt stop to the long action I think

[@billhendon1017]

Awesome thanks guys

[@rcflightseeker3488]

Good damn shots at those distances!

[@Midpackmedia1775]

Marc at Spartan Rifles did this 5 years ago. It was awesome

[@Glockshooter09]

For future testing you could just download the powder charge to get 800yd velocity and test at muzzle?

[@Freezer003]

That would partially neglect the rotational velocity element. Full load at distance is the best way to test

[@nickjaydar]

How did it feed from the magazine? I think you guys just fed it the whole time. Does it get caught or does the long action mag work well?

[@Honkers716]

Literally 1:20 into the video they explain this. 😂 I'm trying not to be a smartA here, but c'mon.

[@Honkers716]

8:00 also

[@tonydevich7937]

You fellas have cool jobz

[@kbowen2251]

Crazy idea... But what is Barnes made a 375 version so you could put a 375 Ruger in a Magnum length action for long range dangerous game like grizzlies or buffalo... Just a thought 😊

[@Poor_Boy_Precision]

So what was the muzzle velocity you ended up with?

[@joelclark2130]

Working on mine right now. We'll be At hunting camp when your video comes out. most underrated 😊😊😊 huntingcartridge, Three hundred w s m.

[@tombraley3212]

That’s about as close to giddy as we’ll ever see RM. great video!

[@WildGuyOutdoors]

WHOA,,, where can I get some of those custom barrel stabilizers you show at the 9:00 Min mark! Those are so cool. So multi fasceted with a wide use potential. THey might even work for fishing float bobbers for steelead!

[@CJ_Brown]

Just built some 6.8 westerns with the 155 grain Barnes lrx. Basically just a baby version of this

[@billhendon1017]

That was awesome!! Thanks guys!!

[@mikebutrie5147]

I wish you would have cycled a few from the mag. Loved everything else. Awesome video!

[@fattigla]

I find it impressive that those cheap tables held up all that gel.

[@Alan.livingston]

Chinesium

[@BadKarma.-]

How well do the lighter wsm loads perform in the 1:8 twist, thinking like 175-200s

[@markthegunplumber8376]

I think we need to see some LR targets. Because I can tell you right now the majority of customers I build LR Hunting Rifles for are going to be using Berger bullets for the long range accuracy. I can also tell from exp. Barnes and Nosler bullets are not on the list of LR bullets I would be using, ever.

[@rtpickett]

love the build and video.

[@stevegiguere1315]

I love the idea of a long action that can handle factory ammo and these specialized loads A+ idea. Curious if this bullet has an application in subsonic rounds for closer work?

[@petermurphy9854]

What are the benefits of this custom round over the 300 Norma that was built with this projectile.

[@Bigbuckz13]

Less powder less recoil

[@randallsreloads]

I can’t wait to have a lathe worthy of holding a reamer. I can’t wait to be able to custom throat, chamber, shorten and thread barrels. This was the perfect rifle nerd video!

[@edtheplumber5307]

I would like to see a comparison using a heavy stock. I don't know much about riffles, but physics would say a light stock/rifle would be less favorable

[@pablogarcia3231]

What bipod system are you using?

[@NomadicHacker.]

Still waiting on the 6.5 bc

[@onebadjack1313]

100%

[@kaseyowens3065]

Absooolutely

[@Paul-q3m7k]

Too many 6.5s already

[@ajdube9967]

156 Berger

[@coryk6839]

Rest in peace bitch cat

[@benbowditch9265]

Pretty awesome proof of concept and testing execution. Great work to everyone involved! That bullet is crazy long (1.866"), I'm seeing it would need a 1:8" Twist min. to stabilize. As cool as it is, a .25cal version would take it.. Hornady 138gr A-Tip (.695 G1) traveling at Mach Jesus. Less recoil, albeit more of a barrel burner.. Happy Holidays fella's!

[@charlesmullins3238]

My 135s over n560 went in the most perfect 3rd 1 hole I’ve shot. Peterson brass br-2 primers. 6.5prc round 3100 without lookin in my book.

[@seth094978]

That increased diameter at the rear may move the center of pressure somewhat rearward and increase stability, a bit like the feathers on a shuttlecock but less dramatic.

[@seriousfaith]

I've got a Mack Bros in 300WM....might be time for a barrel swap. The WSM is one of my favorite cartridges but my favorite 300WSM rifle is a short action.

[@timberghost9057]

Looks like a winner. Great job

[@raider75alljesus]

Would this work in a Tikka T3x with a different magazine?

[@craftmansnapon8035]

What’s the twist rate of the barrel?

[@jjmckay6man1]

1 in 8"

[@positivecarry07]

The size of those projectiles are amazing

[@matthieudangerous]

😮 my rum is going to love this. 💥

[@clinkerclint]

Are you single feeding?

[@matthieudangerous]

@ i bet i will be single feading this one. it looks very long. im shooting a 700 sendero.

[@duckwacker8720]

Remington did a driving band on the Golden Saber.

[@salmonslammer9657]

The old pencil holing Barnes, lol

[@UNC2552]

Think this will become a thing with off the shelf manufactures? I have a 300 PRC, but would buy one if the ammo was sold as a commercial load

[@homeinthewhiteoaks]

Maybe someone can answer this for me ? Wondering why we don’t see new cases based on the 7x57 family in long actions? Would that smaller case not give room in a long action for longer high BC bullets, but have more powder capacity than the .308 case family?

[@halcyondiver]

Or a 358 Winchester lead balloon episode?

[@teddybaham]

Velocity loss causing this I have the same issue with the Hornadys. Accurate but I’ve lost deer at 400yds

[@angrysheepdog9744]

This episode should be called the biggest ever pile of gel

[@draconian6692]

How about an appropriate twist rate? Like 1:7

[@adamferbey263]

Does it feed pretty well?

[@ethancuny3913]

Very interesting characters it doesn’t get any love anymore really but to build the ultimate deal that’s getting right there with the 300 PRC is something to talk about

[@zebionchapman1440]

I’m wondering if the 308 win would work good with that same bullet in a long action?

[@Honkers716]

They already make a Reamer for a .308 FTR Bore rider

[@micmac6556]

Any feeding issues with the bullet so far out of the case?

[@ronpark3809]

Can you guys do a year end round up of the cartridges that came out over the year?

[@RockSpiders]

What makes this better than a .300 PRC? I really want to know

[@fedup3582]

Wasn't the original bullet first loaded into the 264 Winchester magnum, basically a "bore rider" type bullet?

[@jedperalta5280]

could this bullet be loaded in a 300 win mag?standard powder loading of coarse. been interested in these newer 300/7 prc style cartridges but still like my 300 win mag 200 grain eldx

[@davidmackee8575]

Great work guys and good shooting this i a great podcast 👏

[@lordhuck2689]

I hope we all learned something about the channels that just use the clear gel and not the ordinance gel.

[@user-iz7zy7rx9t]

Are there stock rifles in WSM that will fit those long length projectiles?

[@cristoffmaximus7484]

No. A Tikka would be able to do it if you swapped the magazine and bolt stop. However, the biggest issue is there isn't a factory 300wsm with that fast of a twist.

[@EternalClimb]

Definitely worth a re-barrel though!

[@Lucysdad66]

Yes just use less powder and seat the bullet alot deeper but they probably won't stabilizer properly unless you have a 1 in 8 twist.

[@jaydunbar7538]

I think the 300 prc is the only one with a fast enough twist factory, maybe a RUM would do to the velocity.

[@Squatchrocket]

Wowwww..... revolutionary concept. Nobody has ever ran a short cartridge in a long action wowwwwwww you guys are such leaders in the shooting world 😂

[@daytonstauffer8990]

I might have missed this. Did they mention the velocity they actually got out of this gun using the 212s?

[@Honkers716]

212gr run about 2700 out of a 300wsm. And they said 300PRC velocity. So that would be 2950

[@BadKarma.-]

2824 according to the chart they showed

[@AikensLake701]

What COAL did you target?

[@yvang478]

I shoot a 212 lrx at a mv of 2664fps thru a 20" 300 wsm 8t. Those bullets traveled through the geletin as if shot from 100 yards with minimal to no bullet arch affecting it.

[@Mike-rv4it]

Is there really any reason to use a solid copper bullet at that long range ?

[@BadKarma.-]

Well a lot of places are going copper only so yes. Plus the bullet performs as well as most cup and core

[@VMac-zh2qg]

So if I make/build a 300 WSM. Shoot a WSM and I could use a hand load to what you’re describing ? or am I missing something?

[@BadKarma.-]

Yes, a standard wsm can use this load. Will need a 1:8 twist and a medium or long action however if you want to feed from a mag

[@VMac-zh2qg]

@ wow sounds great to me. Hopefully they put those in a box soon.