Why Francis Really Quit Vlogging - The Wild Ones Podcast Ep. 10

[@beermonster1234]

The thing about Jimmi is he always has a great answer to every question.

[@GmailNexus]

hahaha

[@BigBailBikesandBeer]

jimmy is clearly a clever bloke with plenty of life experience.. they work great together

[@graemetunbridge1738]

... except when Francis beats him to the words.

[@eamartinez88]

The trip vlogs i hope will still exist. Literally some of the best content but can appreciate the larger team effort.

[@JordanPike]

Agreed. The bike packing trips are the best!

[@Cade_Media]

my fave too - francis

[@mwcalder95]

I’ve watched the Australia Bikepacking trip 4 times through!

[@eamartinez88]

@@mwcalder95 my girlfriend and I have watched them all. We were hooked on the US one with Justin. Checking everyday for the updates. Definitely has inspired us to ride more!

[@roblaidlaw2763]

Bike packing and bike trips!

[@j.c.7780]

Appreciate the candid talk about vlogging. It is like reality television - you get caught up in these "characters" and want to know more about their private lives, and you forget they are real people on the other end.

[@abstractgroove160]

This is such a great video. I've been watching since the very early days (I miss the guitar content!) and you guys are in no small way responsible for me falling in love with cycling. I must admit I do prefer and miss the old format vlog videos featuring different people and the documenting of the cycling community you were/are part of, but of course times change and nobody wants to be making the same thing over and over again. You guys deserve the growth and success 👍

[@brianstevens8390]

Hearing the story of the early days was so nostalgic for me. I watched those videos when they came out and they were the main reason I got so into cycling. Your videos quite likely saved my mental and physical health!

[@jonpoon3896]

I remember when Bike Fit Tuesdays was just chats on cafe rides with James. Recently, Chris Hall has been saying “good morning and welcome to today’s video” and singing the lift song. I follow different KZbin channels due to this. Alex Dowsett, Chris, Lawrence, etc Really cool to see where the channel has gone

[@thecornerflag7982]

This channel got me into cycling. I'm going to buy the Decathlon Triban bike in the next week. It was the first video I saw and now I'm such a big fan of your content. The podcast especially is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥Loved hearing your thoughts on community/content.

[@YorwerthHiraeth]

Really enjoyed this chat. Very open and honest. Felt really bad after commenting something prying a few months ago, then Francis posting a video about it... It was none of my business. The way you've changed the channel, specifically saying it's to reduce stress or to make things interesting again, shows a level of maturity I can only aspire.

[@aidanmahony1681]

Time flies, I didn’t realise I picked up with the vlogs so early in the story. I get that things must change, but I still wanna see more bike rides and adventures, I think you have done some exciting and funny content but also there’s been some stuff with emotional depth that a lot of other KZbinrs don’t film , I think you capture characters well. The trip with Nick Frendo springs to mind as something really memorable.

[@drijackson]

Love the honesty in this video. I follow you guys as an elderly new starter to cycling and really enjoy the content, entertaining and educational.

[@jergleason15]

Love this. Not often viewers hear the real story behind vlogger cycling life. Much of what Francis expressed is exactly what viewers know but just accept... Appreciate the vulnerability and transparency.

[@robertchandler587]

I find the bikepacking trips a highlight of the cade channel. You feel like your on the trips with the guys and they’re so much fun!

[@senasplage]

55:55 I am one of these people and I do miss Francis "adventures/vlogs" - my favorites videos are when Francis documents his tours for weeks. For the other videos you now produce (gears/reviews), well, there are already hundreds of them on youtube, so I am not watching them. Here is my honest feedback. I am sorry, I don't want to sound negative, but because I really _do_ like this YT channel, I wouldn't like it to change to a channel that has lost its identify. Time will tell, but so far, I am behind you guys

[@simonbrown2619]

I stumbled across your vlog during lockdown, promptly went right back to the start and watched every single video you’d ever put out. Pretty sure I’ve also watched every video since and maybe lived my life a little too vicariously through your content! Not only that, I’ve also followed Lawrence, Chris, Kiera, etc. after coming across them through your videos. Totally agree that you’ve built a community here and it’s great to see. Really happy that you’ve found a way to keep doing what you (both) love and can’t wait to see where CADE Media goes over the next few years. Big love guys! 💙

[@PeterSmithCA]

Was one of the ones that requested this, parts thereof or something similar. Really enjoyed it and learned a lot too. Thanks guys! Hope that goal comes sooner rather than later.

[@bicibugscolo9550]

I really enjoyed hearing the thought process behind becoming Cade Media. I'm relieved (in spite of the podcast title) you are not dumping the adventure vlogging. Your banter in this discussion is so much more engaging than the stilted, forced presenters in another cycling channel I quit watching. Can't wait for what the synergy between you two will come up with next. As for revealing too much of your personal life, I could never do what you dare to. I even hesitate to comment, in spite of the fact that probably no one will read it.

[@leeandrews3074]

I’m just watching this now. It’s excellent, I’m practically making notes here on creating content and I’d like to send you both my first one shortly. I remember messaging Francis maybe 5 years ago from Aldi in Gateshead (where I lived at the time) asking about how he does it - it’s just great content! You deserve so much continued success.

[@xnoideawhatimdoinx]

I had no idea it's been so long! i remember watching the vlogs shot on the One Plus! The Bikepacking through Death Valley was great content!

[@exmormonsongbook]

Jimmy is a drummer?!?! Hell yes!

[@derekhobbs1102]

I've watched all of your podcasts, but your channel is the only one that I've managed to watch more than three podcasts, even including channels where I actually know the hosts in person.

[@kevinbarkema1666]

Love your podcasts. It’s cycling but not too over the top with training nutrition and power meter talk. It fits me like a glove.

[@shrkys4]

Thank you both for the content! As a cyclist during lock down you guys kept up my spirits and gave me stuff to look forward to, shout out to bike fit James as well. Listening to you both is like listening to a chat with my friends…I wish you the best!

[@jedisdad2265]

Long watch but worth it. Can’t wait for your next EPIC ride video. Loved the ride across America

[@Scohen415]

As a long time follower I am sad to see the vlogs go. And its true that the characters in the videos were key points that I looked forward to. If Chris was in a video or you were gonna do one of the hot chili rides I always looked forward to those. And of course getting more invested in your personal life because I was seeing it as reality tv. Watching various relationships starting and ending. Im glad you are looking to find a better balance now and look forward to the bike packing taste of old Cade videos in the future!

[@kevinlyon9501]

Interesting and insightful look into the background of Cade media. Can fully understand the homework part had several days of that this week.

[@JourdainColeman]

All very interesting to hear! Thanks for sharing 👌🏼

[@stuartpotter4923]

Super insightful show this week. Really interested in this from a business angle. Great to hear that there's some bigger things on the cards. Subscribed to the people and now watch for the content.... if that makes sense. Good one guys, keep it up!

[@brendavane9148]

Interesting to hear Francis talk about the channel as I have pretty much watched every one over the years. What a ride, no pun intended.

[@TallMarketing]

You've had such a big impact on my love of cycling. I've really kicked on watching you guys over the last few years and learnt so much from your videos. I'd echo liking to continue seeing content of you out cycling or on trips, but only as you feel happy doing. Your private life is no business of mine.

[@dneedham8302]

This was a great show today guys. Your comments on focusing a KZbin channel towards a "brand" instead of a person really hit home. I think that is great advice. I just finished up Cavendish on Netflix. Top notch, Very emotional. Keep up the great content 👍

[@AlunG28]

Thanks for talking about all of this guys! As fan for a few years now it was really good to hear.

[@gregpestell3626]

Great to have this insight to what you're now doing and did in the past. Thanks guys

[@blackenambaa]

Absolutely superb podcast & insight - really enjoyed that and completely understand the motivations to broaden the scope of the channel. Great work.

[@safehands8889]

I really loved this video. It was great hearing the why behind cade media, the back stories and your journies growing the business. It'll be great to have another in 6 months or year reflecting on this video and what you've achieved! (I am biased as i run a business with a friend so i like this sort of content).

[@AndrewBrown-em3ti]

I selfishly miss the vlogging days but totally respect your reasons for moving on to the new format. Good luck with everything going forward.

[@bambicyclejerk952]

I like both aspects of the channel. Love the new stuff is ace and I always enjoyed the vlogs. I started watching about 2015 when I got back into riding after watching the redhook vlogs and watched ever since. Really hope it all works out the way your hoping. Heres to the future

[@rolexrolex095]

I started watching you Chanel like a few weeks ago and am already maybe 50 videos in. I don’t even have a roadbike and don’t plan on getting one. I love your chemistry in front of the camera and your humor!

[@d7jab]

Although the format was totally different, the questions asked were the things I didn't realise I needed to know about you both. It's great you are sticking to your core values and not making content for the sake of it. Great work guys keep it up.

[@grahambell9831]

An very honest and insightful talk gents about all things on your " team" channel. It has been, is currently and I'm certain will continue to be, an exceptional, fun, informative, engaging KZbin channel. Keep up your superb work " team cade media" - hopefully based in the Toon for many years to come. 👏👏👏

[@wpalmer5547]

Great insight into all the behind the scenes stuff and issues. I subscribed years ago but have liked the Cade Media changes and been extra motivated to watch. I like what Jimmy brings particulary his scepticism of some products and advertising, pointing out how many gains are pointless/marginal to 'normal people' riding their bikes. I also like that the channel features budget options and encourages a just a go have fun philosophy, cycling in general seems to have gone incredibly high end at a time when people's disposable income is shrinking. :)

[@Radelbande]

That was great insight for me a a content creator in the cycling realms. Thanks for being so open about your plans and sponsor relationships.

[@TommySaucierPlourde0]

Full love for you two I really enjoy the authenticity the you both working real hard to get. Keep on doing you're things because their great!

[@johnclement4781]

Love you guys and LOVE Cav … I would suggest you three are the reason for my continued love of cycling 🚴‍♀️ ❤

[@petertreadway]

Oh man, what an episode this is! I felt every word of you guys describing the dilemma of vlogging. It really is a double edged sword of constantly trying to get something produced every week, whilst trying to be as creative and relevant and relatable as possible, whilst also making sure the information your putting out is of good enough quality and worthy of people's time. As you suggest, that sometimes dictates or at least leads to oversharing. But on the flip side of that, I think giving little bits of yourself up at times really helps build a community, because people aren't generally willing to reveal stuff about themselves unless they feel they're getting the same back. I don't know if that's naive or if maybe I'm just too new to vlogging and KZbin in general, but I've definitely noticed my videos getting more comments when a small slice of my personal life has been revealed in a video. As Francis says, I've also (thankfully) not had any detrimental experiences from that yet and people have generally been very positive. Time will tell if that changes.... Also on the point of making money, it's really interesting to hear your perspectives on sponsorship, ad sense and other revenue streams. I love making videos and would ultimately love to do it full time, however the only way to do that is to start making money from them, but how can you do that on a large scale and stay true to what you want to make videos about? Not really a concern for me just yet, as I still have a couple of hundred subs to gain but it's definitely something I think about a lot. So much to think about and unpick from this one episode though, that I could go on for ages... but I won't! 🤣. Big ups to you both for discussing this so openly and honestly. Really great chat. 👌

[@worryingcyclist]

Massive fan of what you do. Love the new format. Started watching you during lockdown and have loved every minute. So honest, funny and inspiring 🙌. From Devon and live in Norway now. Please come and do some bikepacking here. It’s a real hidden gem! 🚴‍♂️🇳🇴😊

[@hixyhicks]

I love the fact you both seem to get on well,your honest and the content is very good .

[@michaelhayward7572]

+1. Russ @ Path Less Pedalled - great channel. This Old Shovel is often worth a watch with great restos. And Blue Lug for bike builds. Another recent discovery -Tim Fitzwater... Keep Cycling Weird...as Bikemonger UK says.

[@marksmith566]

Been following you for years and while I don’t really enjoy or even watch the “product or bike fit etc” videos. I absolutely love the bike packing adventures, cycling vlogs and these podcast. The thing about Jimmy is he makes good kit 👌

[@lifeincycling]

Enjoyed this a lot. I first came across your channel when I was watching a GPLama live video (he was on Zwift - during lockdown maybe? not sure) you were doing an everest in Zwift at the same time, he saw you on Zwift's Nearby list on right and sent you a Hi message which led me to checking out your channel. I then watched quite a lot of past videos/vlogs from the channel which got me hooked.

[@chuckbassification]

Loving the podcasts guys. Following Francis from the early days. Found it fascinating as I wanted to move to London once I graduated so loved seeing you pop around on the bikes everywhere! Hope you keep it going, would love a live podcast in the future? Maybe at backyard? I'd buy a ticket!

[@justsomedude7556]

I came upon your channel when you were doing the 2 bikes 1 wheel chair you tube put in my feed 6 months or so after it had been completed. It fed me episode 40 or something, watch and immediately binge watched all 48 while I was on an all day meeting call. I obviously was not paying attention to my call 😅. I have since watched a lot of the old stuff. I enjoyed your Vietnam trip as well.

[@jeffholder1156]

Catching up on old vids. Great history lessons!

[@jonburnell532]

Fascinating video 👍 It goes a long way when your sponsors let you do mostly what you like, and knowing that as a viewer will make us want to be associated with that brand.

[@danielosman3134]

Great video guy’s! Really enjoying all the content you put out!

[@MorganTame]

Amazing hearing about both your journeys! Thanks for the pod!

[@t1p1may0]

I jumped on board with the Transcontinental videos and have been a regular watcher ever since. Would love to see you do some more videos or cover series where you're brought on board as a videographer but overall have really enjoyed all your content.

[@malcontent_1]

I'm sort of nostalgic that I was fortunate to have started following your channel before you got that first fixie & certainly before the Cinelli, including all the *_107_* rides.

[@RicQuintanilla]

I remember when I got hooked and it was the race vlogs. And the New York crit where you broke your elbows. And all the incredible personalities of the other racers. I rarely comment on here, but try my best to watch as much as i can.

[@RicQuintanilla]

It has been awesome watching you guys, Bike Fit James, and everyone else grow over the years. Like BFJ working at Sigma to his own shop. Atticus taking off. And it's been incredible.

[@renatorocha8274]

Great episode, love the channel. Was lucky to have found the channel at the start of the last american tour, even my wife started watching. I have a suggestion for future episode: everyone has been reviewing cheap bikes and cheap components, the top channels (GCN, etc) only care for the top end 10 000£+ on a bike, how about a series where you review mid market things where true value is and what to recommend around the 2000£ mark, which is still expensive but doable for must riders at some point?

[@ioplup]

I will say, the reason I started watching the vlogs (as someone who never watched vlogs before or after), was that you lived near me, and were a cyclist. I would see you out riding and it was cool to know what you and the strong riders in my local area were up to. But as that has ended, I've stayed for the personality. I did drop off a bit when you moved to Newcastle, but seeing what your up to now has brought me back

[@walkerbikes8]

Really great episode this week! All of your words of wisdom are invaluable

[@dcltdw]

Loved this ep! The other eps, not quite my wheelhouse, but glad others are enjoying them. :)

[@BigBailBikesandBeer]

Thanks for a great insightful podcast... Really entertaining insight into both your pasts and personal experiences

[@ross88mac]

Great episode. Really enjoying the podcast!

[@elliotthopkins8174]

I'm 10 years in Newcastle at the start of next month, having moved up from Bracknell (and on occasion Feltham) and I absolutely agree about the benefits of being up here.

[@maverickreevetattoo]

Great chat guys, love that you're down to earth enough to give the non you tube / small business folk an idea of what it's like! I'd love to help boost your wild ones income stream if there were some new items coming????? I have enough black tees in my life haha.

[@_Just_Some1]

Great podcast episode. I would like to see a vlog here and there.

[@paulscott4386]

i loved the vlogs, but not for the personal life stuff. As a local lad i just liked seeing you out in roads that i've ridden, or seeing places and routes that even as a local i've never ridden on

[@derekcravenPT]

Yours was the first KZbin vlog that I got into and it pushed me more towards road riding as mountain biking was taking a toll on my ageing body. I still prefer your on the bike videos to the studio based videos.

[@loridoll6503]

I still loved all of the past videos, especially cycling across America. I know things change.

[@stuarthines494]

it's been great learning more about you guys. keep up the hard work. Looking forward to great things ✌️

[@stuart-n6u]

Another great podcast. Really enjoyable keep up the great work.

[@rossevans7646]

Class as always guys

[@Zvent]

Gotta respect the decision to change the channel completely. Hope we get more cycling adventures tho because your bike packing trips are 10/10

[@JackofNothingess]

I've been watching you from back in the day, from getting engaged to Daisy to your partnership to Atticus and now as "Cade Media". Looking forward to more honest takes like this!

[@mlafleurhua]

Very interesting episode. A lot of background on your evolution, and aspirations for the future. For sure a big undercurrent of the emotional upheavals for both of you over the course of the past few years. For the fans that have been along for the ride for a very long time, many things that were not central to the main themes of the conversation were not touched upon. Off the top of my head: the music content in the very early days; the arrival of James and Laurence; the time spent in the "studio" space near James; the time trying to make pro video content for clients; the key bike sponsorships, first with Willier, then with Scott; the trips to Vietnam and Australia; finally, touched upon is the really personal aspects of the vlogging content and the impact this has over time. Overall, the change in the channel is refreshing and opens new perspectives. However, something has been lost in the absence of the daily ride aspect of the vlog content.

[@markanderson7412]

Nice one lads, with the CAV doco. Would of been great to include the 2022 British road race champs, just due to him basically bossing it in those conditions, with no team and to prove he should of been at TDF last year also

[@nige_breaks_bikes9782]

Interesting to get a feel for making a business from a personal passion … clearly a lot of hard work that never stops … I’ll miss the vlogs but bringing in Jimmi has made a more balanced channel … keep on keeping on 👍👍👍👍👍

[@scottscrivner253]

Brilliant! Love you guys!

[@roblaidlaw2763]

A suggestion for a future video… cycling the islands off the west coast of Scotland. Isle of Arran is 😎🙌🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 gravel/ road, incredible place ❤

[@sanmiguel4019]

I always thought the reason Jimmi got ill in Spain was from eating all those Spanish donuts he couldn't get enough of!!!

[@Hribster]

Just want to say... I'm the one that came here from Decathlon video. And stayd! Best regards from Slovenia.

[@PhonesUP_Official]

Great video. Lots of great info.

[@michaelgraycycling]

Probably my favourite episode so far. Loved listening to you guys talking about end goals and sponsorships etc. I have a channel, and would love to know how you go about getting sponsorships with the products I already use. Have you ever thought about running like a “cycling youtube course” or 1 day event, where you talk to aspiring KZbinrs or even athletes about how to make youtube worth your while and how to approach businesses?

[@markjthomson]

Dates of significant Welsh holidays... December 19 must be one of them... #rugbymadnation I'm not a rugby follower but I know when the All Blacks got taken down by the welsh in '53. Nice work. Now back to our regular channel!

[@callumbucknall]

Really interesting video on what goes on behind the scenes!

[@rohangayle9130]

Plant looking better, hope it grows with your venture 😊

[@JohnMikeBikes]

I do hope the travel vlogs come back, but I do enjoy the current format as well.

[@michelgeneral]

Well done boys 🤙🏻

[@anatolianbump]

Really insightful podcast, really want to see you both succeed. The thing you guys are so good at is - in contrast with the GCN Top-Gear-for-bikes approach - is that you seem to ask: what if cycling was fun? Not knocking GCN I subscribe to them too, but you guys are much more likely to make me want to go out and have a ride for its own sake (and buy a Scott of course 😅)

[@BigBailBikesandBeer]

if its any consolation I have spent a fair bit of cash on Sun god and Attacus clothing based on your videos,, Both have led to further sales from friends as they love both manufacturers.. looking at hutchenson tires for winter as well.. Keep up the great content

[@pattyr8017]

When did the lift (elevator) song come in?

[@trentbryan8226]

Thanks for sharing pathlesspedaled, Russ will appreciate it, they have great content

[@mpgunawan]

Your vlog to Vietnam was the best ever

[@Mickthemove_]

I agree with a lot of what you say, but the Vlogs were absolutely essential watching for me and don't think i missed many in the 8 or so years, but now i just look at what it is about before i watch. That never happened before, you made a video and i watched it, then brought the silly 😀 "welcome to the video" T Shirt, the orange Cade Atticus top etc etc etc. I hope it succeeds Guys......

[@trev-trev]

Damn. Best episode yet.

[@adidasbadman]

Really good episode.

[@Ballacks101]

It must be a difficult balance. The reason why I’ve followed for years is because it feels a familiar place with familiar, likeable people doing fun stuff. I do enjoy finding out about the lives of Francis and his friends. I don’t enjoy a lot of the new format because I don’t really care which wheels are lighter or what handlebar width I need. But I do get the scrutiny on your life must be exhausting.

[@Zegadan]

I really love the content guys. At the begining of this year I return to cycling (urban kind.. w/e that means) and the passion in your videos really gets me in the mood for a ride, maintenance in my bicycle, and even when i dont have any road bike at the moment is enjoyable to watch you guys. keep the great work!.

[@cathschofield7488]

Totally agree about the abrupt end