Frasier And Alan Speak Latin Thinking Olivia Doesn't Understand Them - Frasier (2023) 1x05

Frasier And Alan Speak Latin Thinking Olivia Doesn't Understand Them - Frasier (2023) 1x05

[@JS-dr1gi]

An example of why the writing is nowhere near as good as the original series. In the original they wouldn't have felt the need to have Frasier say "we're so smart, she definitely doesn't know Latin" You don't need to explain the joke, we get it.

[@flickrennels]

Agree

[@meisterlymanu5214]

Or iQs have fallen away so sharply, they need to explain stuff today.

[@donkeyears4704]

i think you missed part of what the joke was. the writers weren't clumsily showing how smart frasier is, they were setting up the joke later on when she gets the best of them and reveals she speaks latin. they doubled down on the punchline, albeit i agree it's not a very well written or acted one to be honest.

[@AmericanAnthropologist]

exactly

[@yolandahebert2350]

I agree. The line is a washout for its redundancy.

[@stephenbetley9596]

Anybody cringe when they see Rodney simping like this?

[@coolrank12]

Dave can speak Latin? Interesting!

[@staffordbryer8208]

Brilliant. OFAH 😉

[@DisorderedArray]

Loveleus Jubelius

[@davidmoncholi6746]

I love Alan

[@johnord684]

Is that Rodney Trotter lol

[@coolrank12]

No that’s Dave 😜

[@johnord684]

@@coolrank12 LOL cheers Trigger.

[@petercena9497]

Adam Parkinson

[@Inigo_The_Son]

If Frasier McSmartypants were better educated, he would pronounce Cincinnatus correctly.

[@marysketch4772]

That's funny.

[@joncarroll2040]

I think the best part of this bit was that their latin sounds much less confident and fluent than hers.

[@luckystarpiano]

😂😂😂this was soooo good 👏👏👏she showed these two in the end

[@michaeljohn1978]

Yes, that’s how it was written

[@graemesayer3068]

What's Latin for "Mange-tout, Rodders"?

[@FRODIII]

The title is misleading i thought she would reveal that she understood them...

[@welshpete12]

I love the invention for a word for buss !

[@johnsmith-xr1uh]

Alright dave

[@lizclegg7556]

In which bit of this clip does she understand Latin?

[@chrisstewart1999]

it's later in the episode.

[@danderson8463]

Haven't seen the new series yet. I really hope it isn't as awful as the clips I've seen so far.

[@Quagmagorag]

It is pretty awful.

[@freddielaker2]

I have to catch up with this. Nick Lyndhurst is one of our finest actor/comedians and this sketch with Kelsey Grammer sounds like a hoot.

[@mooncat.787]

You found that funny ?

[@marysketch4772]

Honestly, I keep watching each episode over. They are gems; so many fine things going on in each. Yea, Allen is flawless! I think Eve is pretty great, too. But they are all great. Olivia and her "Dance, bear, dance"" is such a classic! Even the minor character, like the plumber, is amazing. I like thinking about how they could get the best actors to come on even for small roles and how excited those actors would be to get the role. Just so much excellence going on there.

[@mooncat.787]

@@marysketch4772 Are you joking ? Serious question !

[@peteradams408]

Terrible, they should never have done this.

[@LeornianCyng]

Frasier never learns lol. Olivia screwing with them was excellent.

[@bobpourri9647]

I am American. While in Italy a while back, my wife and I were talking (in American English) as we hiked a path near the sea. As we passed a gentleman on the path, I must have offended him somehow, and he smugly spoke to me in German saying something like "Stupid American can't even understand what I am saying", to which I replied in German "Maybe not understand everything, but I understand enough!" I then turned by back to him and walked off.

[@ekspatriat]

I've just got the box set of the original. I tried watching this new stuff but MEH. It's lost something and I kept expecting Del Boy and Uncle Albert to waltz in.

[@MayorofDipshittery-lq7if]

Embarrassingly bad, what was Lyndhurst thinking 😱👎

[@markpage9886]

This is a call back to a Man for All Seasons. Also, He's mispronouncing Cincinnatus pretty badly. It's Kin-Kin-At-ooos.

[@wesjanson6979]

actually it makes a lot more sense if you just watch rick and morty

[@rnash999]

The pronunciation depends on whether you learned classical reconstructionist, ecclesiastical, northern continental or traditional English methods. Not saying his was good in any of them.

[@for111]

Licet, Dave.

[@ESowder24]

So he can finally say the line he been wanting to all his life if you need me I’ll be at my club !

[@adamwort7160]

Should have called him dave

[@jimbo250686]

Canned laughter,spoils the show

[@claudine1928]

Yeah, their screwd, she will eat them alive😂.

[@johntraynor2498]

Look after your brush.

[@BF-109-dq3hw]

Im pretty sure there isn’t a Latin word for ‘bus’.

[@Mark-Haddow]

What? Ancient Latin and contemporary Neo-Latin. Latin was still being taught and used long after buses were in common use.

[@Mark-Haddow]

@@totallybored5526 You just don't seem to comprehend Latin isn't exclusive to Roman times. Much like English, the language you're struggling with, new words are added all the time. 🤭

[@dominicbuckley8309]

He used the word 'currus', meaning chariot or carriage.

[@Mark-Haddow]

@@UCLAfilm01 Latin is in daily use throughout the English speaking world. Good job you deleted your idiotic post. "Dead" only means it isn't the primary language of any group or society. 😁

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

@@totallybored5526yes, there were, actually.

[@darrenbradly2702]

Wonderful show. Thank you.

[@marysketch4772]

No kidding! 👍😀

[@basilrose]

The writing on the reboot is lacking the sparkling erudition and wit that characterized original Frasier. And the reboot feels sitcom-ey when each episode of the original was like a gem of a mini stage play. And the casting feels a bit sluggish in comparison to the scintillating chemistry among the original cast. Even so, it's wonderful to have Frasier back for a third act, and hopefully more will 'click' with the writing and cast as the series continues :)

[@mrpugster]

If you rewatch original Frasier the jokes have more edge. These days they would offend someone, you cannot have a funny show anymore.

[@basilrose]

​@@mrpugster I'm about halfway through Season8 of re-watching the entire series and it's aged perfectly. Brightly clever and delivered with warmth and heart, nothing that could be misconstrued as offensive, the writing is that good!!

[@WittyUsernamehere]

@@basilrose You're correct that the writing is that good. Imo, MrPugster's point is that some people could and would nit pick it to no end to find something to be "offended" about. These are the strange times we live in when someone goes out of their way to be offended at something and scream about it on Twitter/X. Off the top of my head, I can think of something that I know some people might find "offensive". I'm not going to say what here, though.

[@basilrose]

@@WittyUsernamehere One of the most enjoyable things I've noticed through the Frasier re-watch is the characters' cleverly sane reactions to emerging technologies, fads, and norms of the time, which wasn't that long ago. From cellphones to plastic surgery to botox to gaming to rivalries with people of other ethnic groups and cultures -- and especially classes -- to the intrusiveness of media with Frasier's aspiring celebrity. And most consistently, the writers' brilliant wordplay concerning gay humor that mostly revolved around the character of Niles. They conveyed slices of life and points of view with alacrity, subtlety, and grace, and as I said before, always with warmth and heart. I think we have a pretty good idea what Frasier, Niles, Martin, Daphne, and Roz would have to say about the wildly misinformed cesspool of keyboard warriors over at 'X', with nary a doubt about their judgement of the essentially meaningless hair-trigger mob outrage over there -lol :)

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

@@basilroseyou mean “Twitter”. And yeah, that place is overrun with literal Neo-Nazis now. If there’s anything anyone perceives as bad in the world, you’ll find at least one Twitter user (twit?) who’ll explain in great detail their schizophrenic hypothesis about how Jewish people caused it 😂

[@mrpugster]

this is terrible

[@elgenetiamzon1062]

Thus clip didn't show her speaking latin.

[@jasonh.8754]

On a brighter note, appatently Snopes is still a thing.

[@highvoltageswitcher6256]

Why’s ‘Dave’ in this?

[@Mark-Haddow]

Talent?

[@meangene98]

So… is this what comedy was like back in the 1900’s?

[@maryoleary2037]

Frasier playing off of Alan, is only 10% compared to having Niles in that spot.

[@lol_average5808]

watcha dave

[@iangascoigne8231]

Rodney’s got old.

[@markorollo.]

62 I think

[@coolrank12]

I don't know who Rodney is but all I can see is Dave hanging out with a guy called Fraiser

[@iangascoigne8231]

@@coolrank12 Nice one Trigger.

[@coolrank12]

@@iangascoigne8231 Roy Rodgers had me stuffed

[@mrpugster]

we're all getting old, even you Gazza

[@SirBorisHayter]

Wait - this is funny???????

[@atlantaga55]

Not fanny go away all of you

[@seaniek9175]

Il stick with the re runs of the old Fraser

[@Quagmagorag]

Yep, same here. This reboot is terrible.

[@cariboubearmalachy1174]

How is their latin so bad?

[@WifeWantsAWizard]

(0:50) It's pronounced "kin-kin-at-us", man who attacked everyone in a Boston bar for failing to call them the "kel-tiks" using the Latin "C". The Latin is as follows (thanks to GlobalEejit for finishing my marathon for me): - Oblivisci societatis pascamus eam lupis = Forget the association, let us feed her to the wolves. - Sub curru iaciamus eam = Under the car let's throw her. - Ita callidi sumus plane ea Latine nescit. = We are so clever, clearly she does not know Latin.

[@globaleejit]

oblivisci societatis, pascamus eam lupis sub curru iaciamus eam ita callidi sumus, plane ea Latine nescit.

[@WifeWantsAWizard]

@@globaleejit Yes, yes, that's fine, but I feel like I loosened the ketchup lid on this one.

[@atheistlinguist542]

Well, props to the writers for at least getting the grammatical forms themselves right, but the usage thereof is a bit off in a couple of places. Full disclosure: although I am relatively confident about these critiques, I am also mostly self-taught in Latin, so I welcome correction from anyone with more training andȯr experience. "Oblīviscī" is an infinitive (the verb form most often marked by a preceding "to" in English), which makes little sense here. Frasier literally said "To forget the alliance." My choice would've been "Oblīviscāmur societātis," which literally means, "Let's forget the alliance." A simple imperative, "Oblīviscere societātis," might also work, but I think my first rendition captures the intended meaning better. "Pascāmus" is the correct form of the verb meaning "to feed," but as far as I can tell from my favorite online Latin dictionary, it takes the person or thing being fed as a direct object, not the food. What Frasier said sounds more like, "Let's feed the wolves to her," or more literally, "Let's feed her with (i.e. by means of) the wolves." Basically, the woman and the wolves need to swap forms. "Pascāmus lupōs eā," (literally "Let's feed the wolves with her") would be the better translation. "Latīnē" is an adverb. The go-to translation for "to speak Latin" literally means "to speak Latinly." In this case, though, the adverb doesn't really convey the intended meaning. Much better would be, "Ea linguam latīnam nescit," which literally means, "She doesn't now the Latin language." Using the name of a language alone as a noun referring to that language itself was not something the Romans generally (if ever) did.

[@lenawagenfuehr53]

Latin is a dead language, spoken by many different cultures. We're not sure about the pronunciation - would someone from Gaul have the same accent as someone from Dacia?

[@WifeWantsAWizard]

@@lenawagenfuehr53 There is an actual correct way to speak Latin. We know what that is. Pretending that Latin is somehow open to interpretation to protect the reputation of our uneducated British ancestors from 1,000 years ago who had no Internet is a mistake. The man's name was "uleeoos key-sar", it's pronounced "en-kuklo-pydia", and if Harvard is going to smugly correct "Celtics" then they had better be prepared for the same from Yale. Also, Latin is clearly not dead; there are four people in this clip who speak it plus at least one in the comments.

[@fredhall5038]

I am a grouch. Canned laughter and irritable background music in every show and commercial really turns me off, and I am not talking this show, which seems a little tooooo forced!

[@artyfhartie2269]

Just a few seconds of this and I know this new Frasier series is pure crap. Bet it's soaked in PC politics

[@sandbridgekid4121]

Still overacted with scene chewing ferocity.

[@DomWeasel]

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[@AldousHuxleysCat]

My question is how do they convince the laugh track to laugh

[@peterbedford2610]

Not nearly as funny as the old show. I guess good writing matters

[@kellypaws]

Nicholas Lyndhurst being cast as even vaguely cerebral and upper class is painful. Atrocious miscasting.

[@shauntaylor9251]

Never rated him as an actor myself

[@meisterlymanu5214]

he was the posh son in Butterflies before Delboy, and is rather posh in real life.

[@kellypaws]

@@meisterlymanu5214 Sorry, but he absolutely isn’t and he struggles to try to appear so. It’s painful.

[@meisterlymanu5214]

he grew up in Hampshire, went to an indept theatre school till 19 yrs old, dad a film director, married a ballet dancing teacher. Its at least middle class. @@kellypaws

[@Sbudre]

His character is anything but cerebral or upper class. He's a lazy, boozing free loader ( who somehow scored a professorships at Harvard) with an English accent. Your judgments are premature.

[@davidcooke8005]

The 'C' in Cincinnatus is a 'k' sound. And I don't even speak Latin. This was just lazy AF.

[@thiagodeandrade7081]

The Ancient Romans had a word for "bus"?

[@alexandercampbell9178]

I appreciate the effort, but terrible pronunciation.

[@lenawagenfuehr53]

Latin is a dead language - all the native speakers died centuries ago. The Roman Empire covered a vast territory, so it's highly unlikely there would have been one uniform dialect anyway, so who knows what is the "correct" pronunciation.

[@thomasherrin6798]

Everybody who knows Latin knows what was meant, the majority just read the sub titles and the armoured hand and arm was the best joke, well done Dave!?!

[@oiooi6460]

The only thing worse than the feeble writing and the dreadful performance of Nicholas Lyndhurst as the would-be Nialls substitute is the completely forgettable, inept token diversity hire woman.

[@johnpacella9519]

This is a shameless ripoff of an old Frazier episode wherein Niles and Frazier thought they were competing for membership in an exclusive club. TBH, I was considering watching The Further Follies of Frazier…. But….if they are only going to recycle what was originally rather formulaic storylines, what’s the point? It’s just dishonoring the legacy of 22 seasons of well received storytelling. I’ll never forget Norm telling Sam, “I knew you’d come back”. Or, the same plaid wearing stevedore who originally delivered John Mahoney’s plaid recliner to Elliot Bay, returning 11years later…. for one last move. Very sad when writers are reduced to picking at those venerable bones. I’m not crying, you’re crying!